1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Hi, amber Hilelah, Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hey, babes, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: it is La La Kent with my gorgeous co host 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: that I had the luxury of sharing a bed with 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: last night. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: M good morning, I Ambera. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: It's so every time I'm in a spiral, it's always 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: on the days where you're landing that night, and I'm like. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh, is it because of babe? 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: God? No, no, it literally brings me back and I'm like, oh, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: thank god if my security blanket's going to be here later. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: That's how I feel about you. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Really. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: I start going through withdrawals, I'm like, I gotta go, 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: I gotta go to La. 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's fine. Are we developing a 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: codependent relationship? 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: Do you think we have been in a codependent relationship? 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: We've done there, We're just identifying it now. 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Okay, there's just so much I need to look into 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: as I get older, and I think I've done the work, 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and then I'm just in introduce to more experiences and 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, not more work to be done. I'm exhausted. 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't care, Like, we don't need to label it, 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: we don't need to name it. We have a great 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: beautiful friendship. 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: And it's and it's mutual. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not running from well maybe i am. No, 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: you've never been a runner, eh, even I know that's 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the problem with me. Oh, you will take care of 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: me like I'm a baby bird. And I appreciate that. 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: And I love that this podcast is happening today because 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: when we talk about our mental health and talk about 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: what gives us anxiety and how we deal with it, 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: actually a lot of people have reached out and wanted 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: that to be like a main topic. And just recently 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: since my mom's hip surgery, I'm not sure what's going 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: on with her, probably because she has a foreign object 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: in her body and it hasn't even been like three 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: months and then just like anthesia and all the medication. 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: But she's been explaining to me how she's been feeling, 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you, for the first time in 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: your sixty five years on Earth, are experiencing anxiety. This 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: is what most people are living with on a regular basis. 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: And this showed up out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Wow. 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: We went to an event the other night and she's 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: in the car and I'm at vallet. Everyone gets out 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, do you want to get out? Mom? 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: And she was like, no, I'm nervous. I feel anxious. 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: What are you anxious about? 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: She's I don't know the unknown, I don't know anyone here. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you have never said that, And I 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: was like, just so you know you're not alone. When 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: you tell Easton and I that we should get out more, 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: we don't because of what you're feeling right now. 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if she's always had that, or this is 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: a new thing and she's now she's like or she's 58 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: identifying it now for the first time. 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: In her life. 60 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do not like it. 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: Just the fact that she didn't experience that post your 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: dad dying is. 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Crazy, crazy, right, So I don't Maybe. 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: She's just been numb and now she's finally like forcing like, 65 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, acknowledging her, trying to identify what the heck's 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: going on. 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: You texted me yesterday and you were like, I just 68 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: had the worst anxiety. Wait tell me? Can I tell you? 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: I wish I would have said, are you okay? I 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: thought that this was just because this was the episode, 71 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: that that was just a story that you'd experienced in 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: your lifetime. Nobody realized it had happened that morning. What 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: did I text you? 74 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: I said, my anxiety this morning and how I thought 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: I did not. 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Read this morning. I'm a skimmer. 77 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm glad we clear that it for 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: future text messages. I said, I almost went to the 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: hospital my like, I need to talk about this. So 80 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: basically the last two weeks, I've been off my antidepressant 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: for four months now. I've been on it since I 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: was twenty one. After I had London, I had serious 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: postpartum and I never really got off of it. I've 84 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: tried to wean off of it, but it's like for 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: anyone who has done antidepressants, it's really hard, especially when 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: you've taken them for so many years. They just become 87 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: a part of your daily routine. So it's been four months, 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: and was there. 89 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: A reason you chose to like get off of them. 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: I thought I was fine, And that's like the quintessential thing, like, 91 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 3: oh yeah, everything's fine. 92 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't need them anymore. But I'll tell you what. 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: I was on pristique for a long time, many many years, 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: and I felt like it wasn't working anymore. So then 95 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: I went to Well Buttrin, and that was a complete 96 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: shit show. Like anyone who has add and anxiety and 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: then you take well Buttrin. 98 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: It just didn't work for me. 99 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: And I think I've have many friends who have this 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: same experience with Well Buttrin. 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: My body just didn't like it. 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: I felt like I was having a heart attack on 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: top of having anxiety. So then I went to I 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: don't even know what the last one. I was on 105 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: for like three weeks and my sister. I went over 106 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: to my sister's house one day and I was like, gosh, Autumn, 107 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm not feeling myself, Like I feel like super numb, 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: like just not I can't access and she's like, it's 109 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: like you're dead, and oh she could feel it. She's 110 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: like one hundred percent. So I was like, Okay, I 111 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: need to get off of this. It's not working for me, 112 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: especially with doing auditions, and like I need to I. 113 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: Need to need to access the emotions. Yeah, I need 114 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: to feel stuff. 115 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: So uh so I was like, you know what, I'm 116 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: going to just get off everything and just post and 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: let me tell you the last two weeks, I have 118 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: had the worst anxiety of my life, where I literally 119 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: have to like lay in my bed with my heating 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: pad on my twenty pounds. 121 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Weighted blanket. It's so messed up. 122 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: So I'm very conflicted right now because I want to 123 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: I want to stay off medication if I can, but 124 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: I know that what I'm feeling every morning, I like 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: my my and I explained this on the last episode 126 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: when Tamsen was on that when you experience such bad anxiety, 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: and it's not like my heart's racing, that happens more 128 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: when I have like a panic attack, my heart is sore, 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: like it's like a muscle that's like worked out really hard. 130 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: And then I feel it the next day, and. 131 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: Then I'm exhausted because I've exhausted myself from the previous day, 132 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: and then I'm tired and I need a recovery day. 133 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know if I don't know if I'm 134 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: going to go back on it. I definitely know I need. 135 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to do some hormones at some point to 136 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: get my hormones all regulated. 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: But shit, it's that's what you. 138 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Were talking about with my mom last night too. Yeah, 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: about the hormones. I think I want to do a 140 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: full panel as well. Yeah, I feel I was on 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: an anti anxiety anti depressant when I was in my twenties, 142 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: and then I got sober. Like I was taking them, 143 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I would take it with like a shot of vodka. 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: It was like, not good, that's amazing, not good. I've 145 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: done that with my zannies and some wine. I took 146 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of shit to the face and then face 147 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: chugged vodka. Like you name it the anti anxiety and antidepressant. 148 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: What's that? What's the face to clear? Oh? Oh oh? 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: Acutane, which is literally like, do not drink alcohol. 150 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Your liver will be funn Are you out of your mind? 151 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 152 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's called an addict. It's called an addict. So 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: then once I got sober, I was like, I don't 154 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: know that I need this medication anymore because I think 155 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: that my anxiety and depression was coming from drinking excessively. 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I have not been on medication since then. Everything was very, 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: very manageable, because my whole thing is if it's manageable, 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: like we all have emotions and we can work through them. 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm not telling anyone what to do. Don't drop your medication. 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: For me, That's what I felt was best. And then 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: all of the sudden. In the past year, I have 162 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: just felt like I have an elephant on my chest 163 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna die. 164 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: I feel like this is how I die. 165 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I'm not on a medication, but I 166 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: do beta block. 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: So you never. 168 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Experienced anxiety when you were younger, like as a child, Yeah, 169 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that I did, But I feel like it 170 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: was situational anxiety, like a test is coming that gives 171 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: me anxiety, right right? You know it wasn't just like 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: waking up and feeling it. But I also feel like 173 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it's a hormonal thing because I'm like, why am I 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: not sleeping like I slept in high school. I could 175 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: sleep until ten ten am straight cruising. I could stay 176 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: in bed and not feel guilty about it at all. No, 177 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: I know, And now I'm like, what happened? It's like, well, life, 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: because you're a grown adult who can't just hang out 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: in the bed until one. 180 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 181 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: Now I feel also too, with my kids being older, 182 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: I feel this extra pressure not to show them when 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm justsregulated as a human, which my kids have seen 184 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: me cry a handful of times, like mom's upset or 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: you know, they'll just like see me in my room 186 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: and I'll just say, like I need a minute, But 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: they feel that stuff, and so now it's like that 188 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: extra pressure of not to be anxious around them. 189 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Right, do you think that that's a good or a 190 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: bad thing? Like there are times where I go back 191 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: and forth where I'm like, my kids need to see 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: someone who's strong. But then on the flip side, they're 193 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna get older and experience those emotions too, and if 194 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: they have nothing to kind of relate it to where 195 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: they can go, oh, like, this is what happens when 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: you get older and there's pressures, Like I've seen my mom. 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Like my biggest thing when I look back is there 198 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: were moments where I saw my parents argue. But the 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: important part that I took with me was that I 200 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: saw them make up. Right, Yeah, so nothing in my 201 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: house was really hidden. If my mom was fucking mad 202 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: at my dad, like the whole house was gonna fucking know, 203 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: depending on who you ask. It's like, you don't do 204 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: that in front of the kids. You do it behind 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: closed doors. But then when your child gets older and 206 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: they're like, wait, arguments happen. I've never experienced this before. 207 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, arguments happen. How are you going to 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: deal with it? 209 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Well, I saw my. 210 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: Parents make up, so yeah, as long as people aren't 211 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: like chucking shit across the room, you know what I mean? 212 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Do you find that anxiety when it shows up? It 213 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: shows up in your like your relationships or when. 214 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: You date someone. 215 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: Since I have started putting myself out there with men, 216 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: my piece has been so disrupted, which, by the way, 217 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: is my own problem. That's my own issue, and I've 218 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: got it. I've obviously, when you're putting yourself out there 219 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: and your heart, you're going to have moments where you're 220 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: not at ease, right. 221 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: But I have to be able to deal with that. 222 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Like there was a period of time where I could 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: not even be mentally present with my children. It was 224 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: like a week straight where I was with them, but 225 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: I was not with them. 226 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then I yes, and. 227 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Then I get angry at the person. I'm like, it's 228 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: not their problem, this is me. I am in full 229 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: I can't control you. I can control me. But usually 230 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: I would say that's never going to happen again. I'll 231 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: date when my kids are older. I'm not putting myself 232 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: out there because it's not worth it now. I'm understanding 233 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: that I have to go out into the world and 234 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: put the tools that I've been working on to use. 235 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: You have to otherwise all of the tools that I 236 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: have are going to be shiny and pretty and they 237 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: will have never been used. Just like I must continue 238 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to put myself out there and learn from each experience. 239 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: But the guy who caused all of this, Amber told 240 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: me last night because it's been a back and forth, 241 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: and she goes, is he's still in your phone? And 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I deleted his contact and she goes, no, 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: you need to block him. He should not be allowed 244 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: to contact you any longer. All night long, I tossed, turned, 245 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I was having dreams about him doing shitty fucking things. 246 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: And this morning I literally woke up. 247 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Before my alarm went off and I was like, I 248 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: am blocking him in every aspect. I never want him 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: to contact me again. I walked into our workout today 250 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: so mentally free. I feel like I cut the cord. Woo. Yes, 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: it felt so grue I was like, why do I 252 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: feel like I just like threw up and shit everywhere 253 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: and feel awesome? 254 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: So light. 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best feeling in the world. It is 256 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: the best you know what anxiety is. Someone told me 257 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: this recently, which I love, the anticipation of suffering. 258 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's brutal, and it's true. Oh, I will say, 259 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: that's so true because during the time of my custody situation, 260 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: my anxiety came from the unknown and had and it 261 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: was brutal. But when I think about taking it more 262 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: of like a hurdle race and the things that I 263 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: actually was in a room dealing with that was way 264 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: less stressful than what I thought it was going to be. 265 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Like all of the suffering came from. Now, it's still brutal, 266 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you know what we went through. But that makes so 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: much sense because I saw something the other day that 268 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: was like remembered that the thought of something is always 269 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: scarier than the actual event. I'll never forget I was. 270 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: It was the last time I was in court and. 271 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: I eat. I don't think anyone loves it, do that. 272 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: No. 273 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: I feel like some people really like it, like lawyers. Yeah, 274 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: I think like thriving. 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: Right. I feel like some people walk in even to 276 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: like enjoy suing other people, right, I feel like there 277 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: are those people out there in the world. 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: It was It was straight out of a scene from 279 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: a movie. 280 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: We were like first on the docket, so it was 281 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: like an eight am and I was sitting there on 282 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: the bench and I was trying to distract myself by 283 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: like reading a magazine that. 284 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: I had brought. 285 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: And I had the worst anxiety in my life. And 286 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't about going in front of the judge because 287 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: I felt very confident in what I was showing up for. 288 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: Like was no one really wins in court, that's what 289 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: especially in family corps, I like to say. But I 290 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: knew I had strong evidence, right, I knew what I 291 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: was walking into. It was the anticipation of seeing him again, 292 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: and that that that's suffering. 293 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: Like I felt like. 294 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: It was just the crazy, craziest out of body experience. 295 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: Have you ever been so anxious about something and you're 296 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: sitting there and you're not even in your body. 297 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so weird to me. 298 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you want to you want to run, but 299 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: you feel like but you feel stuck. At the same 300 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: time you want to crawl out of your own skin. 301 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 302 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: And I'll never forget him getting off of the elevator. 303 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: There's no one in the hallway downtown, no one. It 304 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: was like I had died, right and this was like 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: it was so eerie and just him walking and that 306 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: feeling that I had of like being so anxious just 307 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: to have to deal with this once again. 308 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: M hmm. There's not one person on this planet besides 309 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: him where the moment I know that I have to 310 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: see him, even this far in where I'm like, I 311 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: feel like I'm entering the devil's lair. Yeah, it makes 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: me physically sick to my stomach. Yeah, and I never 313 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: make eye contact. 314 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 315 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: You know what, going back to when you asked did 316 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I have anxiety as a kid, My anxiety, if I 317 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: could pinpoint it where it was kind of like I 318 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: would wake up with it, was when the reces hit 319 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: and my dad lost everything. Because I had never experienced 320 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: financial my family have financial stressors, and that's a really 321 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: tough one to You can't work through that unless someone 322 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: just hands you a pile of money, right right, you know. 323 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a one day at a time kind of situation. 324 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I felt though I was like out at 325 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen, trying to book jobs just so 326 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: I could try and help in any way possible. Same 327 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: with Easton. That's when I was like, oh, this is 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: some real heavy shit where there's nothing anyone can say 329 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: to make it. 330 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: Better, Right, it just is. Yeah, it just is. 331 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: You know, with heartbreak, you know that that's going to pass, right, 332 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: and someone can make you feel better. You can go 333 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: and get your mind off of it. How do you 334 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: get your mind off of money troubles? Well let's go here. 335 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well that costs money. So did you hear 336 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: anything I said, we don't have money right now? Yeah, 337 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: fucking idiot. And then I watch housewives like og housewives 338 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: and every single person who was in the same line 339 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: of work that my dad was in. Also, so that 340 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: makes you feel Actually, that makes you feel a lot better. 341 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Surround yourself with people who are also struggling with money, that'll. 342 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Make you feel Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. 343 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Oh you want to go with the rich people to 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: remind you that they're not struggling with money? 345 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Maybe you're right, Maybe you're right, 346 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: you're right. 347 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You want to be around. 348 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: People who are like, this is fucking brutal. 349 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: I had everything I could possibly want, and it all 350 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: just in the blink of an eye was completely gone 351 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: and had shifted. 352 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a sicko. 353 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: Where I would use that and to hang around people 354 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: that I'm inspired by and find someone in the room 355 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: that I want what they have. Yeah, it gives me motivation. 356 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: Like I'm the opposite, Like you tell me, like, no, 357 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: you can't have that, I'm like, watch, motherfucker, I'm gonna 358 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 3: get it. 359 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 360 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: But that that toow thousand and eight recession, it was 361 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: very hard to get. I mean, everybody like tightened the 362 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: what purse strings is that it was intense. And what's 363 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: sad is I didn't even experience it the way most 364 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: people did. Like my mom's parents had passed away. She 365 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: got inheritance that we lived off of. My mom continued 366 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: to go to work, but I mean in that moment, 367 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I watched my dad's health decline significantly. 368 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: We lost them at the age of sixty four. Yeah, 369 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: it's stress. 370 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: It was the stress of just that time on everything 371 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: had changed. 372 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: Do you ever find yourself in positions where you're in 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 3: high pressure moments and you actually are able to use 374 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: your anxiety to actually perform better in like a positive way. 375 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: What's wild is my personal stressors in personal life, dealing 376 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: with men, those moments take me out mentally more than 377 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: high pressure in like a business set right, I'm like 378 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: when I feel that pressure, I'm like firing off text messages, 379 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: making phone calls, harassing people, like making a shore yesterday. 380 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, high, Yeah. 381 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Let's fucking go. There's money in the world. I've seen it. 382 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: I wonder what the difference is and how you can 383 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: when I say you, I'm at the universal you like, 384 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 3: how do you navigate that? Like how do you flip 385 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 3: that narrative? Where like in personal because I guess business 386 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: wise it doesn't. It doesn't hit your heart, whereas when 387 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: it's romantic relationships, it hits your. 388 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Heart right, which my nermotion has not been exercised in 389 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: a very long time. 390 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes practice a lot of practice. 391 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because even with our ex my heart was invested 392 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: in ocean, nothing else. So even that was a different 393 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: kind of heartache. Heartache when it comes to I'm giving 394 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: my self intimately and mentally fit all of the things, 395 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: as well as my friendship to a man that part 396 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: of me has not been exercised used in probably ten years. 397 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: Mm hm. 398 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: So I there's moments where I crack under pressure, Like 399 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: I could never be an athlete, I would never get 400 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: us to the championship. I won't even get us to 401 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs because that type of pressure breaks me really. 402 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 403 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: Yes, Like when when I am watching like a basketball 404 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: game or football game and the crowd is going crazy 405 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: and the announcers on is like, dang friends, if that 406 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: were like everyone shut the fuck up, like I would 407 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: lose my mind. 408 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: So you you're not competitive? I don't because I am competitive. 409 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're competitive because I feel like 410 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: a competitive athlete. 411 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: They throw under that pressure like big time. 412 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: Or they're just so numb to it, right, these guys 413 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: that have been playing balld, they've been doing this forever 414 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: that they don't even hear the crowd anymore. 415 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: Can you imagine being on the free throw line and 416 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: everyone it's like. 417 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the opposite team, and by the way, both 418 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: teams are getting the exact same reaction. 419 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: It's like either boo or yeah. It's like, oh my god, 420 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: I did everyone to go away? Can we clear the room? 421 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: This is a closed set for the free throws. 422 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: I especially on set for me, I thrive in that 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: kind of pressure, like when the director's like, Okay, I 424 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: really need you. 425 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: To give this, take your all, and I want you 426 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: that I can do Okay, yeah, great, it's very situational 427 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: for me. 428 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, my anxiety's depression happy moments. 429 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: Everything's very new once now see. 430 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the difference between anxiety and depression, 431 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: because I have both. There's medication for both, because I 432 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: was only on one med for both. 433 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: What do you think you're talking to? 434 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, you're talking to the pharmacist right here. Okay, 435 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: I have taken everything. Depression is a motherfucker. It's different 436 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: than anxiety. Anxiety feels like I think I would almost 437 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: rather have anxiety than depression. If you got to pick 438 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: your poison. Depression, Yeah, it's tough, is fucking dark. 439 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, keep going. 440 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to cut your I was in a 441 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 3: ba in sobriety. I went through a bad depression for 442 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: like three months where I was like, why do I 443 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: want to be here? 444 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: My kids would be fine without me? Like I went 445 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: fucking dark, and. 446 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: It takes you to dark places and you're like then 447 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: you snap out of it. 448 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: And you're like, who am I? Like this is not me? 449 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: And I thank god I have sobriety because can you 450 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: imagine going through that and then using drugs and alcohol 451 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 3: to numb you. That's when it goes sideways. That's when 452 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: it can go real sideways. 453 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: Because the next day it's the every emotion. 454 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: Is yeah, yeah, it's wild. 455 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: Anxiety is like such a different experience for me, and 456 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: I think it. Remember when Chris Medina said, don't confuse 457 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: anxiety and excitement. Yeah, I'm very well aware of that now, 458 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, am I feeling anxiety or if I 459 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: am I feeling excited? 460 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes there is for me. 461 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: It's usually anxiety for me too. But like when I 462 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: was filming the last show I was on, I would 463 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: always think I was having anxiety and I was actually 464 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: really excited to go and film filming this season of 465 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: The Valley. 466 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not excitement. This is sheer terror. 467 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to leave the house. I have PTSD. 468 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: This is really anxiety. 469 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: For the first time I understood what anxiety felt like 470 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: during filming a reality TV show. 471 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know how. 472 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: Many people go to the hospital thinking that they're having 473 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 3: a heart attack and they're like. 474 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: Hey, it's anxiety. Yeah. 475 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: What's crazy to me is that men experience all of 476 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: these emotions so differently. 477 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: It's almost not fair. And there usually is a heart attack. 478 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Well no, yes, actually, yeah, that's true. 479 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: I was saying it's hard because when I have anxiety, 480 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: my legs go numb. 481 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: That day I couldn't drive. 482 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: I literally, yes, my legs, my whole lower body. 483 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: I couldn't feel anything. 484 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm a complete psychopath on airplanes, And it 485 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if I'm sitting in coach in business or 486 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: first I walk onto that airplane and first of all, 487 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: usually i'm twenty four hours like before the flight, and 488 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: I get that like okay, it's time for you to 489 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 3: check in. 490 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: It's like green. 491 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: The anxiety starts sometimes when I get on the plane. 492 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: How do you check into a flight? That's a different conversation. 493 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever done that before. Oh my god, 494 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: how do you check in? Yeah? 495 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: You go to the app and you hit check in. 496 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: Are you checking any of the bags? 497 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: No? 498 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, I can't do I So if i' what 499 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: I have to teach you. 500 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Hold on, if I did that beforehand, I wouldn't have 501 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: to go to the kiosk at the airportl No, my 502 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: mind is blown. 503 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. Everybody is doing that. You're just not 504 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: doing that. 505 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Those kiosks are popping when I get there, 506 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: so not everyone's doing it. 507 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true, not kiosks. Is that a kiosk? 508 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: What is that thing? Okay? 509 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, last night we were trying to book our flights 510 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: for Montana to go to for the fourth of July. 511 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: My mom was like, I can't do it. I was like, 512 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: don't look at me. I don't even I can't remember 513 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: the last I don't think I've ever booked a flight 514 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: in my life. 515 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, oh my gosh. That makes me anxious for you, 516 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: not me. I'm thriving. I'm still on planes. I don't 517 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: know how I got there. Somehow we booked it. But 518 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: there's the ticket, all right, let's fucking go. Sorry. No, 519 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: I have the worst time flying. No, the worst time fight. 520 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: We're Actually the difference between anxiety and then a full 521 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: on panic attack is for me is my legs go 522 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: numb and I can't and then so my legs are numb, 523 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: and that's a panic attack and I'm shaking, Oh for sure, 524 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: for sure. And sometimes I remember a couple of flights. 525 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: This started happening to me when I got pregnant with Riley. 526 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Okay, and I got off. 527 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: I was on lexapro and my doctor was like, hey, 528 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: you have to you know you're pregnant. You have to 529 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: get off of it. And I was walking off planes. 530 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: They would close the door and I'm like, let me 531 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: off of this plane. It's like the oxygen for me 532 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: is being sucked out of the air. I get dizzy. 533 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: Is it because you think something's gonna happen? It's I can't. 534 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: I feel claustrophobic, and mean extremely claustrophobic. And so when 535 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: they're when it's hot and there's a lot of people, 536 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: and I feel like there's no place to escape, like 537 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: I can't run off this plane, like I'm stuck here. 538 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Oh God, you're giving me a whole set of new anxieties. 539 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't even think that way. 540 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, if there's a little turbulence, put me right 541 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: to book. It's like the turbulence doesn't the turbulence doesn't 542 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: always bother me. 543 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: But when I fly to Denver, which is a complete bitch, 544 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: the turbulence. 545 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: Is like. 546 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: And you're like flipping slide on a plane. 547 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, ship, Like I really hope those guy's 548 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: up up there know what they're doing because. 549 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: You hope he's like I was Sully's. I hope he's 550 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: sucking awake and sober. Did you see the Denzel Washington movie. 551 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: I've watched it one hundred times. 552 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: That is such a good movie. 553 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: Where he doesn't throw the flight attendant under the bus. 554 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: I easily blamed it on the woman who died. Yeah, 555 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: he fucking sacks that man go to prison, but he's sober. 556 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Wow, great film, great film. I love a good Denzel movie. Okay, wait, 557 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 2: I like this one. 558 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: Let's talry about the listener's secret weapons for anxiety relief. Oh, 559 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: closing your eyes and taking deep breaths. By the way, 560 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: the moment that you can conquer the art of breathing, 561 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: because that sounds like this is a great one, but 562 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: when you read it, you're like, well that sounds fucking stupid. 563 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: No, when you conquer the art of breath work, it's beautiful. 564 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: You have conquered Life's You've got life by the fucking balls. 565 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it is life. 566 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: Breathing is life, I know, but so many of us 567 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: are not breathing properly. And your breathing should be different 568 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: depending on what you're going through you. 569 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: There was a woman that told. 570 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: Me, she is so good at her breathwork now that 571 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: she can literally make herself feel like she's high. I'm like, 572 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: that sounds like maybe your whole wait, you could almost 573 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: I've actually seen this on YouTube where you do breath 574 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: work and you actually make yourself orgasm through your breath work. 575 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: I need to learn how to do this. 576 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Right. 577 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: I would do it right now. I'm excited. 578 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: To give me a second. So I sometimes when I 579 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: go on a plane, I'll put those no strips on 580 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: because my left nostril is collapsed. 581 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: I just I couldn't figure out. 582 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: Is that like excuse to go get a nose job? No, 583 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: you got a gorgeous night. 584 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone touching my nose. 585 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: But I went to go see an E and T 586 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: and I said, I feel like I can't breathe, and 587 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: maybe this is why I'm having like extra anxiety lately. 588 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm not my body's not getting the oxygen. So he 589 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: took too like Q tips and he did this. He went, 590 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, it was like life changing, life changing. 591 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: So it's my left nostril that's collapsed, and there's like 592 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: a surgery that you could get done. 593 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's. 594 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: Called but I'm afraid because I heard it's really painful. 595 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: But this nostril needs to go up a little bit 596 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: and I could, but there's so those breathe right. 597 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 2: Around like this. 598 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes I can breathe amazing. 599 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: It's like your nose is helify. I did that. 600 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 1: I did that the other day on a date unconsciously, 601 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: and He's like everything came there. 602 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I feel like I can't breathe. 603 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: You're just having really incident conversation during the sexture like 604 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: hold on, yeah, much better. 605 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: No, But the nose strips they work. I believe you. 606 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: They work. And I'll wear them to the gym too, 607 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: because if I'm doing sprints on the. 608 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: By the way, I wanted to actually start my own 609 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: company of the no strips, but make them like an accessory. 610 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: Did what did you say? Accessory? Accessory? Accessory? 611 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Yes, accessory, Yeah, like access access accessory, accessory. 612 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: What did I say? Accessory? 613 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: Please never stop saying that she's gonna wear her accessories 614 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: to create I'm actually gonna. 615 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: Rename it accessory. Have you ever heard because. 616 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: You're reassessing your breathing assss access as genius genius. We 617 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: may have woken up to you and here we come. 618 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Lexipro all day long, love it meds mes. Yeah, working 619 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: out the best, the best. I just can't get there. 620 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: But working out and breathing. 621 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: You got it? Like it always comes back to the breathing. 622 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: This person says my vibrator. 623 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I've noticed that. 624 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm having a panic attack and I'm numb from 625 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: the waist down. There's nothing that having. 626 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: A bit of anxiety, like it's like having a migraine. 627 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Have you ever had a migraine and then had sex 628 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: and you have an orgasm? 629 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: It goes away in two seconds. I've never been with anyone. 630 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: No one's been next to me when I've been fighting 631 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: a migraine. And usually I just want a dark room, 632 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: silence and a heating pad. 633 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: No, but it does work. Don't even get me started 634 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: on vibrators. My drawer. 635 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I just got like ten new ones. My drawer is 636 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: filled to the brim. 637 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I. 638 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Probably have them unless I maybe sex workers have more 639 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: of a full drawer. 640 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: No, why would they have Why would a sex worker? 641 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: Just fun toys? You can use them on men. 642 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Oh, and men can use them on you like it's 643 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: fun to throw in a little toy. 644 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: No, I've never done it. 645 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: Amber with all the sex you have, you've never used toys. 646 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: How dared you say that about me? All right, not 647 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: a bad thing. It's so good saying not taboo. I 648 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: have not had having lots of sex is good. 649 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: I have not had a lot of sex, but I've 650 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: experienced different partners over the last three years, and I've 651 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: never used a toy. Okay, I've had a lot of sex, 652 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: and I've used a lot of toys and not used 653 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of toys. 654 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: And you prefer using toys. 655 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I just think having toys is fun, whether you're solo 656 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: or with somebody, because also when you're with someone multiple times, 657 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: like you don't just want to be doing I don't know, 658 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 659 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: It's a little fun. 660 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, she's looking at me like I'm weird. 661 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I just have never experienced that, So 662 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: let me try. 663 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: This is the design between fucking twenty six year olds 664 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and not. You know, you got to teach in some things, 665 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: all right, all right? Well, micro dosing, how do you 666 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: say this word? Psilocybin psychedelic. It's a psychedelic compound found 667 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: in over two hundred species of fungi, commonly referred to 668 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: as magic mushroom. 669 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: I've heard this works. I have two, and I'm not 670 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: mad about it. 671 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I think I would rather, even 672 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: in my sobriety, have someone give me micro dosing mushrooms. 673 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Than an ssry over that. I agree, I agree with you. 674 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: I agree, Actually I agree. I really think that that 675 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: is a good option. Prozac. Prozac that takes away your 676 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: sex drive big time. I've been on that. 677 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I scream, go for it, I love this my 678 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: car with the windows up, and then cry. 679 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: I do that a lot. I do that a lot. 680 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the show dead to me? 681 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, she does that and she does what is 682 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: the music that she does on the headbanger music? 683 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: What is it called? Like it's like Metallica something like that. 684 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: And she's in her car and she just shuts the 685 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: door and you just hear her turn on like music 686 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: that you wouldn't think that Christina Applegate's carried, and she 687 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: just starts. 688 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 2: Screaming, and I was like, oh damn, that's a moment. 689 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 2: That is a moment, good moment. I love that moment 690 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: for her. 691 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a moment in time where I would 692 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: scream in my car cry, and while I did that, 693 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I would listen to this song. I think her name's 694 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Lauren Daegel, and it's basically about God when you don't 695 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: like move mountains or separate the waters for me, I'm 696 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: still going to trust in you. I'd listen to that 697 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: and then I would calm down, and then I would 698 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: listen to Break my Soul by Beyonce and we were 699 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: fucking back baby love that. 700 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: Do you know what I've been listening to that actually 701 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: really helps me with my anxiety is justin Bieber's version 702 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: of Hallelujah. 703 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: It is so good. Not everything hallelujh. Yeah, it's called 704 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: everything Hallelujah. Yeah. 705 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: It's so good because it breaks it up to like 706 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 3: it's it's so simple. It's like I go for a walk, 707 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: hellu yah, I wake up, I brush my teeth. Hell 708 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: it's like taking every little thing like and breaking it 709 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: down to being grateful for every little thing, like Ylli Hellelujah, 710 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: baby Jack Hallelujah, Like, Okay, I'll stop. 711 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: You got me. I like to escape reality by reading 712 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: this one. I think I will read it. 713 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: I could read an entire book and if I'm struggling 714 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: with anxiety, I don't know one word that I read. 715 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really hard for me too. Dancing Can we 716 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: go back to that? 717 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what I like doing instead of reading? 718 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: What? 719 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: Watching comedy shows? 720 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Put on Friends or Seinfeld for me when I'm 721 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: in full panic and I am immediately regulated. Yeah you no, 722 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: every time you come to my house what's on? 723 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: But by the way, that totally put me to sleep 724 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: last night. It's the breast. It was the best. 725 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: I didn't even take magnesium. Yeah, I didn't take a melotonein. 726 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 3: It was just it was great. 727 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: But dancing, yes, Oh I did a forebanger of Magnese 728 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: and a Valerian root. 729 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were cruising. Oh I love that. Yeah? 730 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Great for sleep? I use what is sauge? 731 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this stress release essential oil roller 732 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: on my temple's neck and wrists. 733 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: How do you feel about the oils? They're not going 734 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: to work for me. I'm too fucked up for I 735 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: need something stronger. Making out always does the trick. 736 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: Just anyone buy you to kiss in your mind will 737 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: divert I'm obsessed with this person, and it's so true. 738 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah, I was making out over the weekend. 739 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: You just wanted to skim right over that. By the way, Well, 740 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 2: because what else do you say? I made out? 741 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: You did? And then what it's kind of where it 742 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: starts and ends, to be honest. 743 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't end. 744 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: You start making out and then there's a little four play, Yeah, 745 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 3: and then it usually ends. 746 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 2: It did not end with full penetration. 747 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, but that's because there were other people 748 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: in the room, which I'm not usually a person who's 749 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: down to like get touchy feeling and make out in PDA, 750 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: no PDA in public, And it was like intimate, like 751 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: intimate where people it's like, yeah, that's uncomfortable. 752 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: Four of us, and then what are the other two 753 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: people supposed to be doing? Just watching? I don't get 754 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: each other? Start making out too? Maybe, well then it's 755 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: a party. Then it's like why don't we all just 756 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: join it? 757 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of parties and making out, there's these things in 758 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Before I moved to Montana, I was hearing 759 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: about them. There's these sex parties. Yeah, have you heard 760 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 3: of them? 761 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: Well, I've heard of sex parties. Is there something extraordinary 762 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: about the one you're talking about. 763 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: Will you wear a mask? 764 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and no, no one knows who's who, and then 765 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: you go around each room. 766 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: I know this sounds so naughty. 767 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: The first time, I think in search party, which was 768 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: it's like a TV show on free Form or something 769 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: like that. So yes, I've never participated in one, but 770 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: I have heard of these. 771 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so interesting. Maybe we'll try it out. 772 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I could try it out. I get 773 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: a little territorial long walks with you both on repeat. Oh, 774 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: I love that. 775 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: That's sweet. That is sweet. By the way, the walking 776 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 2: does help a ton. 777 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've started walking around my neighborhood, which gives me 778 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: Utah vibes walks in la but my neighborhood is constantly 779 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: filled from the time the sun comes up until the 780 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: sun goes down with kids and people with strollers and dogs. 781 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: I love it. That's the best feeling. 782 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: Dark room, laying in bed and focusing on your breath, 783 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: feeling your chest inhale exhale. I couldn't do that because 784 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: that's when my depression would then sink in. 785 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: Prayer. Oh, that's a big one. That is a huge one. 786 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: I'll sit in my bathtub and wait for the water 787 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: to fill up, and I will just out loud be 788 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: asking someone intervene. 789 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: Hello, you want us all to think you exists? Buddy? 790 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: I literally to shine part the red sea. 791 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: I have been in my house in Montana walking through 792 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: having just the worst anxiety of my life, and I 793 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: literally just stop what I'm doing and I'll like get 794 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: down on my knees in my living room. 795 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let's go toe to toe. Yeah. 796 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: I have to do this right now because I literally 797 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: cannot take another step forward. 798 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus take the will. 799 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: You and I are the same person, by the way, Okay, 800 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I want to end it on this one because this 801 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: one's so fucking good rebranding from what if blah blah 802 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: blah happens to what if it doesn't. 803 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: I've been seeing this one this type of message a lot. 804 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, it does happen. What 805 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out? Well, spoiler alert, it's not going. 806 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: To So how are you going stop think about it? 807 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: Instead of saying like, oh, I'm so worried that like 808 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 3: that I'm never going to find my person? 809 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: What if I never find my person? Ard comes in, 810 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: then you'll experience lifelong peace forever you're welcome. 811 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: Why does he have to be so old? God is 812 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: old as fuck? No he's not. He's a hot Tarzan 813 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: looking with a man bug. That's gush. Are they the same? 814 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: By the way, the same Jesus is not the same. 815 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 3: On our next episode, we're going to be dissecting the 816 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: Trinity Jesus. 817 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 2: Allah hold on. Really funny story. 818 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of Allah, I was like a handful of months sober, 819 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: and we go to Mexico with our eggs to celebrate 820 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: my birthday. He takes me to a night club. I'm sober. 821 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: They bring out magnum fucking bottles of grey Goose, my favorite, 822 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: my go to right vodka, and it's says they get 823 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: the letters mixed up, so instead of Happy Birthday, Lala, 824 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: it says happy birthday Allah. 825 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. 826 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: I have to leave. If that's not a sign, I 827 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: don't know what it is. 828 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: Cheers to you all and all your anxieties. May they 829 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: not last forever. Amber, I love you. Thank you everyone 830 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of An Unlikely Affair. Reminder 831 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: a new episode airs every Thursday night at nine pm. 832 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 2: We will catch you guys next week. Bye bye,