WEBVTT - Baseball For The Dads...

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what?

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to our Father's Day edition of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be joined by Karl Ravich and his

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<v Speaker 2>son Sam Ravich, who both are broadcasters for ESPN. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>big baseball broadcasters. And Carl also dips right into college

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<v Speaker 2>basketball as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a special episode for us because well we're

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<v Speaker 1>a father son duo as well, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>your first Father's Day as a father. McKinley Kirchen was

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<v Speaker 1>born on August tenth of twenty twenty three. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>it like for you to be a father the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>With Father's Day coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably the coolest feeling because I always knew I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a dad, and that's because I had

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<v Speaker 2>my dad as an example as a great father. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people always tell you, oh, you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>love until you hold your baby for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and not that I would roll my eyes at that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I always thought, oh, yeah, I kind of get No,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no comparison of the first time I got to

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<v Speaker 2>hold our baby girl. And I mean I was also

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<v Speaker 2>happy for other reasons because while my wife was in labor,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Lorenz in to the Phillies at the time was

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a.

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<v Speaker 1>No hitter and did so successfully. So there's two reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy, right. So we thought McKinley was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be born on your birthday and on the same

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<v Speaker 1>day that Michael Lorenza threw a no hitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I turned thirty at the hospital and then my

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<v Speaker 2>wife went into labor at like nine pm on the

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<v Speaker 2>night of my thirtieth birthday, and then she labored for

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<v Speaker 2>quite some time and we had the baby the next morning,

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<v Speaker 2>so she would have her own birthday August the tes.

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<v Speaker 1>So McKinley has been how many major league games and

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<v Speaker 1>she's not even eight months old? Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So she how she's three major league games, including the

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<v Speaker 2>game we went to and did a live show from

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<v Speaker 2>for the Als game, which was really really special, the

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<v Speaker 2>first time we ever brought McKinley to a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know a lot of ballparks do this, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go get a certificate, a first game certificate.

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<v Speaker 2>Every team does it and we still have it to.

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<v Speaker 1>This day, and it was really I got to put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a frame. It's a basketball ticket. Happy Father's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>And happy fathers, say to you, Dad, And we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get more into fathers, including fathers and sons of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>But I first have to ask you about the London series,

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<v Speaker 2>because as we are recording this on Monday afternoon to

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<v Speaker 2>release on Tuesday, you have just flown in from London

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<v Speaker 2>and drove from the Philadelphia airport to my home forty

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<v Speaker 2>five to fifty minutes north of the airport we're recording.

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<v Speaker 1>How jetlaged are you? I'm very tired, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>such a great time in London. That's the takeaway from

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Jeff, is what a great job everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>London did. There wasn't one hiccup through the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball did a great job. The ballpark was

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<v Speaker 1>in great shape, it was pack The Brits are really

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get it in baseball much more. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an acquired days, Jeff. They don't play baseball over there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a soccer and a cricket country. But it was really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good. And you know I told you I went

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Cubs and Cardinals traveled like I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't take five steps in London without seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs or Cardinal fan. This year, the Mets traveled very

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<v Speaker 1>well and the Phillies traveled exceptionally well. They were Philly

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<v Speaker 1>fans were everywhere. So we talked to Rob Tubbs and

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<v Speaker 1>the manager of the Phillies, and he heard from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the coaches that there was a Phillies bar. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there were three Phillies bars in London, and one was

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, what's it called Passaic Passion pass Avenue

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<v Speaker 1>was the name of one of the bars. So Rob said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if a couple of coaches are going, we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to go. So the coaching staff and the manager of

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Phillies go into this bar in London and

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<v Speaker 1>Rob said, the place what absolutely bananas because they're all

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<v Speaker 1>Philly fans in there. And then these guys roll in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, I said, Rob, what did you say,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fifteen minutes just to make an appearance, and he goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we stayed two hours. We had a great time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how great that part was. Bryce Harper was the star

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend, mostly in part because he had a

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<v Speaker 1>home run in the game on Saturday. Now he had

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<v Speaker 1>planned I asked him all about this. He had planned

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<v Speaker 1>it in advance that if he hits a home run,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to go do a slide on his knees

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<v Speaker 1>like soccer players do when they score a goal. So typical.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Harper goes, well, I got to hit a homer

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, and then he hits one of the

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<v Speaker 1>third deck. It was just ridiculous. As Dave Debrowski the

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<v Speaker 1>GM told me, he said, only Bryce could pull off

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So he hits the homer and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts running towards the dugout and then he hits his

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<v Speaker 1>knees and slides. Rob Thompson told us like he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Bryce running right after him, at him, going what

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<v Speaker 1>in the hell is he doing here? And then Rob

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really recognize until after the game in the postgame

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a soccer slide. So when I asked

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce about it, I said, did you practice this? And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, no, I've never really done that before. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and yes, I was a little worried that

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<v Speaker 1>I might get something caught underneath me, but he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what the heck. When I hit it out

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<v Speaker 1>of the ballpark, I said, I'm going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>slide into home plate. I mean into the dugout. It

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely tremendous. So you talked about the Sunday game, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>So I called the Sunday game with Michael Ka and

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Lamville on excellent job. It was so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>as always. So we get to a play at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game. You know, Jeff, you know my mantra.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people, like every day of my life, the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest part about baseball is you can go to a

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<v Speaker 1>game and you might see something that you've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen whatever four thousand games in person, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something that I know I'd never seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>So bases loaded one run lead in the ninth inning,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cassianos is up with one out. He hits a

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<v Speaker 1>little tapper in front of the plate, breaks his bat

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<v Speaker 1>into one thousand pieces, and Luis Enz, the catcher for

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets, jumps out in front of the plate, grabs

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<v Speaker 1>the ball which is rolling just in front of the plate,

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<v Speaker 1>runs back, tags the plate, and throws to first for

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<v Speaker 1>a double play. That is a two two three double play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say immediately on the air, that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest finishes to a game that I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I'm guessing no games, especially a one

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<v Speaker 1>run game, has ever ended quite like that with a

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<v Speaker 1>two two three double play. So of course I called

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<v Speaker 1>Frank at the Alive Sports Bureau. We counted grounded into

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<v Speaker 1>double plays starting from nineteen forty on in both leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the first time why the game had

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<v Speaker 1>ever ended one run game had ever ended on a

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<v Speaker 1>play quite like that. It was absolutely crazy, as slapped

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<v Speaker 1>my forehead about five times after the game, like how

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<v Speaker 1>can it end like that? But the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 1>it was a fabulous, fabulous time in London, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope we keep going back there all right. Other takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>from the week, of course, Aaron Judge had another preposterous week.

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<v Speaker 1>He has thirty one extra base hits in his last

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<v Speaker 1>thirty games through Sunday. The only other Yankee that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever done that is Joe DiMaggio in nineteen thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a thirty two game stretch, Judge had a

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<v Speaker 1>higher had the highest ops of anyone in baseball since

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Bonds in two thousand and four, and of any

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees since Babe Ruth in nineteen twenty four. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>hot Aaron Judge has been lately, he has been an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute machine, and as we talked about last week, all

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<v Speaker 1>of this happened after he got ejected for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny how the way base all works that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe that was what he needed to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of turn things around because it was not a good

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<v Speaker 2>start to the session. Who is your game changer of

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<v Speaker 2>the week this week now, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Our game changer is we're trying to present somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>has persevered, who has made a change in his career

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<v Speaker 1>and has done something remarkable when it didn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>he was ever going to get there. So Matt Waldron

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<v Speaker 1>is a pitcher for the Padres and he throws a knuckleball,

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<v Speaker 1>and in his last six starts he's three and one

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<v Speaker 1>with a one point seven eight era. Jeff, when I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up covering the game, and when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little kid, there were knuckleball pitchers, not everywhere, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was not uncommon to see a knuckleball pitcher. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>basically the only knuckleball pitcher in the game today, and

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<v Speaker 1>he throws a knuckleball thirty seven percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like Phil nicro or Charlie Huff or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or Tim Wakefield. But he's still throwing a knuckleball. He

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<v Speaker 1>started experimenting with it in twenty twenty one and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's really got going really well. And Jeff, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>throw knuckleballs anymore because we're so velocity conscious that we

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<v Speaker 1>want everyone to just blow everyone away. So no one's

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<v Speaker 1>teaching the knuckleball. So this guy has gone to an

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<v Speaker 1>area where no one is even teaching. In fact, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not encouraging anyone to learn to throw a knuckleball, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a mistake. And he has really succeeded

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<v Speaker 1>because Jeff, when you throw a knuckleball, it is really

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to do. So years ago, the Orioles had

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Daniel Boone. That was his name, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a direct descendant of the Daniel Boone and

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Boone weighed one hundred and forty pounds, it was

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<v Speaker 1>five 't eight and his second incarnation of baseball, he

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<v Speaker 1>came back as a knuckleball pitcher. So I asked him about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throwing the knuckleball and being a direct descendant

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<v Speaker 1>of Daniel Boone, and he said, yeah, I thee Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Boone was must have been a really courageous man. But

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I don't think he would have the courage

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a knuckleball with on a three to two

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<v Speaker 1>pitch with the basics. That's how hard it is to

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<v Speaker 1>throw a knuckleball. And by the way, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I ever told you this. I faced a knuckleball pitcher,

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<v Speaker 1>a major league knuckleball pitcher, Charlie Huff in nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was coming off the disabled list. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury, and he wanted to throw a simulated game

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<v Speaker 1>before he came back. So I'm at Arlington Stadium covering

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<v Speaker 1>the simulated game to see if the best pitcher on

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<v Speaker 1>the team, Charlie, is coming back. And Doug Rader, the

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<v Speaker 1>mischievous manager of the Rangers, literally picks me up and says,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna face Charlie Huff. And I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>facing a major league pitcher. He said, yes, you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took four at bats against Charlie Huff throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a knuckleball, and it was one of the great experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of my life because I wreck because all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>hitters have told me you can't hit a knuckleball. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather face one hundred miles an hour than a knuckleball.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, it can mess you up for the next game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't follow it when it's thrown. Well, here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there, it's everywhere. So needless to say, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put a ball in play. I didn't even make contact

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<v Speaker 1>in four at bats against a great knuckleball pitcher. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least now I can say I faced Bob Feller

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<v Speaker 1>in an exhibition game, and I faced Charlie Huff in

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<v Speaker 1>a stimula game. Two major league pictures. Love that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the record show that this was mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast before Bob Feller.

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<v Speaker 1>How old was he when you faced? It was like

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two years. I mean not discrediting you. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>can discredit me, believe me. Yes, we have with the

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<v Speaker 1>quirtchins for the week. Let's see the quartions. Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know how much I love sacrifice flies. This

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<v Speaker 1>is way over the top even for me. So on

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<v Speaker 1>his thirtieth birthday, Harrison Bader of the Mets hit two

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice flies on his thirtieth birthday. So I called the

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<v Speaker 1>Elias and said, has anyone ever hit two sacrifice flies

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<v Speaker 1>on their birthday? Because you know, we have guys who

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<v Speaker 1>had homers on their birthday. Strike we talked about Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Skeins dragging it out nine on his birthday, and we

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<v Speaker 1>found out that Bobby Meacham in nineteen eighty four and

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<v Speaker 1>Roy McMillan in nineteen sixty one are the only two

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<v Speaker 1>players other than Harrison Vader now to hit two sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>flies on their birthday. So I told Harrison Bader this

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<v Speaker 1>and he stops me. Man, he goes, tell me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that's ever done this. I said, sorry, Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the third guy that's ever done it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just love stuff like that. So Jaron Duran of the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox hit his tenth triple of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, we're only sixty six games in, so

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<v Speaker 1>I checked for the last player to have that have

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<v Speaker 1>ten triples in so few games of a season, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was Jose Reyes in two thousand and eleven. Because

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, Jeff, we don't hit triples anymore. We

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<v Speaker 1>hit a lot of home runs, but not many people

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<v Speaker 1>hit triples. So it really stands out that somebody's got

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<v Speaker 1>ten triples already. Ellie Day. Look who we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>every week on this because he's so spectacularly talented. But

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<v Speaker 1>he recorded his fourth four strikeout game this season. So

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind the Major League record for a for

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<v Speaker 1>four strikeout games in one season is seven by Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Allen in nineteen sixty five. Ellie de la Cruz is

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<v Speaker 1>over halfway there. My guess is that that record is

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<v Speaker 1>going to fall and again Jeff different time, different era,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tony gwyn Stan, Musial Joe DiMaggio had three three

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<v Speaker 1>strikeout games in their careers combined, one each, and Elie

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<v Speaker 1>de la Cruz, granted those guys didn't see the pitching

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing today, already has four four strikeout games. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>we had a game the other day. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox against the Cubs, and Corey Jenks led off

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<v Speaker 1>the game with a home run on the first pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Takman ended the game with a walkoff homer.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first pitch of the game was a homer

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<v Speaker 1>and the last pitch of the game was a homer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was surprised that we didn't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back very far. Jose Altuve in nineteen I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two let off a game with a first

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<v Speaker 1>pitch Homer and Aaron Judge ended it with a walkoff Homer.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the quirtions for the week. That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>What about birthdays this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're celebrating Father's Day on the show, but

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<v Speaker 2>do you have any birthdays for Is this a great

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<v Speaker 2>game or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Holt, this is his thirty sixth birthday today. Brock

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<v Speaker 1>Holt is the only player ever to hit for the

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<v Speaker 1>cycle in a postseason game. And I've told you many times, Hank, Aaron,

0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Willie Mays, Barry Bods, Babe Ruth never hit for the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Holt is the only player to hit for the

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<v Speaker 1>cycle in a postseason game. And in eighteen sixty And

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<v Speaker 1>this is for you, Jeff, A guy was born. His

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<v Speaker 1>name was Pop Joy. That's his name. Now, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the name of our our company that does the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Joy Pop Production? Right? So this was Pop Joy.

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<v Speaker 2>And for anybody you know, we Joy Joyce Kirkshen is

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's mom, my grandmother, and Pop is what we

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<v Speaker 2>call my grandfather who is originally.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffs And Father's Day we have we have a shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Pop Joy. Major league player was born at

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen Joy eighteen sixty amazing. Who is he playing along with?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure you only had names like pop Joy

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<v Speaker 2>of the eighty nine Toe Johnson. He was toeing the

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<v Speaker 2>rubber right And we also had some pretty good things

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<v Speaker 2>on this date in baseball history, and this date in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty eight, Johnny Vandermere through the.

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<v Speaker 1>First of his two consecutive no hitters. Of course, no

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<v Speaker 1>one else has ever done that. Nolan Ryan on this

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<v Speaker 1>date in nineteen ninety through his sixth no hitter. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course he would finish with seven. No one else has

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<v Speaker 1>more than four. Nolan Ryan is the greatest power picture

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, the hardest pitcher to hit in Major

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<v Speaker 1>League history. And last thing is the Brewers on this

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<v Speaker 1>date retired Paul Molechers number four. We talked about great

0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.400
<v Speaker 1>number fours last week. So Molitor becomes the manager of

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<v Speaker 1>the Twins and he's walking around the ballpark in Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 1>when the Twins go to Milwaukee and there's his number

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and one of the younger young players on

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<v Speaker 1>his team came up to him and said, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you up there? Is that your number up there? And

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Maler is the most humble guy in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks at me, he goes, yeah, let's be up there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wish some of our young players would

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<v Speaker 1>actually remember exactly who came before that. It's in the cards.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna rip them a pack of tops cards here

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<v Speaker 2>and we start with.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what a great card. Raoul one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite players. So, Raoul Lebanya's Jeff has the most

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<v Speaker 1>career homers of anyone whose last name starts with I.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I know the all time home run leader

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<v Speaker 1>for every letter of the alphabet. I could do it

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<v Speaker 1>for you right now, but that would be ridiculous and

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<v Speaker 1>it would take too much time. Plus, Raoulabanyez is one

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<v Speaker 1>of three players joining Hank Sour and Davy Lopes. Try

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<v Speaker 1>to picture this, Jeff more homers in his forties than

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<v Speaker 1>he hit in his twenties. That's crazy. Think about that

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<v Speaker 1>for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, next step, not the country star, but the

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<v Speaker 2>baseball player. It's Kenny Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh love Kenny Rogers. So Kenny Rogers was a left

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<v Speaker 1>handed outfielders shortstop in high school. Weighed one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five pounds, but because he had such a great arm,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas Rangers drafted him as a pitcher, but he

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<v Speaker 1>had never pitched before. So he goes to spring training

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time as a professional baseball player, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sid Hudson, the pitching coach for the Rangers, says, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see you throw off the mount and then he said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's see you go from the stretch. The stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>not the wind up. And Kenny Rogers looks at Sid

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<v Speaker 1>Udson it said, I don't know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He had never done that before, and the ilready is

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<v Speaker 1>a He turns out to win over two hundred games

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<v Speaker 1>in his major league career and had one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best pickoff moves I've ever seen, and yet he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to go from the stretch when he

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<v Speaker 1>first became a professional baseball player.

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<v Speaker 2>One player who has been really stepping up this season

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<v Speaker 2>at Mundo Sosa since Trey Turner went Yeah, and Trey.

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<v Speaker 1>Turner is going to be back in the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great news for the Phillies, but Sosa has

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<v Speaker 1>been absolutely tremendous for them. First twenty seven games that

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<v Speaker 1>he played in shortstop replacing Trey Turner, did not make

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<v Speaker 1>an error and really swung the bat exceptionally well. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's won of Rob Thompson's all time favorite players. So

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<v Speaker 1>Sosa in London overslept and is because of the time

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<v Speaker 1>change and everything else. And he showed up late to

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark for the Friday workout. And he's never late,

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<v Speaker 1>He's always the first guy there. So he comes running

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<v Speaker 1>out to the outfield and to Rob Thompson who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, and he's literally crying, weeping, like I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>My cell phone died when I was asleep and I

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<v Speaker 1>got caught up in the in the jet lag. He

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<v Speaker 1>was crying, and Rob Toombs had to say, and Mundo,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry. You're good. So he ed. He played like

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<v Speaker 1>he played really well over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Miles Michaelas all right, Miles Michaelis is a

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<v Speaker 2>good major league pitcher. But what struck me about him

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<v Speaker 2>was last year at the London Series, he went all

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<v Speaker 2>over London like experimenting, being an adventurer and seeing everything

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<v Speaker 2>he could possibly see. He said a very interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>to me, he said, he said, this is what the

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<v Speaker 2>trip to London is all about, is what.

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<v Speaker 1>You see beyond baseball, he said. I played three years

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan, he told me, and he goes. I you

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<v Speaker 1>can probably remember three games that you know, specific games

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<v Speaker 1>like shut out here, But he said, but I'll never forget, say,

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<v Speaker 1>going to the concentration camps in Japan or Hiroshima. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the things that we take away from these trips.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a profound look at things by major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball player, very encouraging. How about a Doug Glanville

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<v Speaker 1>dog Landville, my friend. You just hung out with him

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<v Speaker 1>in London. I hung out a lot with Doug in London.

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<v Speaker 1>He is so much fun. And I said this at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the broadcast. He wrote a poem to

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<v Speaker 1>kick off the broadcast, and I had to say on

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<v Speaker 1>the air to Michael, Okay, you know, this just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>fair that Doug Glanville played the Major League for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time and he's a better writer than me. That

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<v Speaker 1>just isn't right, because he wrote a beautiful poem to

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<v Speaker 1>kick off the Sunday game in London.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not the swar as I named my dog after

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<v Speaker 2>as in Ranger.

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<v Speaker 1>This is oh, I'm gonna screw it. New Haneos. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna call you Jenny O right heineo sar.

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<v Speaker 1>Very popular guy with the Mariners was traded to the

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks in the offseason. Strikes out a lot, has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>much better defensively, and he hits the ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark. Not at the same rate this year as

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<v Speaker 1>other years. But Jeff, this this just shows you how

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<v Speaker 1>your poor dad sometimes just goes way overboard. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Suarez was going to lead the league in homers one year,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got all the vowels in his name aeio,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are in Haanio Suarez. So I actually went

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<v Speaker 1>through all the home run champions of all time to

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's anyone else that has an aeio and you.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy named Jack forty A in nineteen twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>led the Major League, led the league in home runs,

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<v Speaker 1>and has all the vowels in his name, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Figueroa, Nelson Figueroa, two guys who played in the

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<v Speaker 1>Major leagues have all their vowels in their last name

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<v Speaker 1>ae aeio and you in their life. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go league in lids. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've put every single Major League Baseball team in this

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<v Speaker 2>amazing lids hat that has every team in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>every week we pull a different team name. And right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at the Saint Louis Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there's an argument, what's the greatest team in

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest franchise in the history of the National League.

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<v Speaker 1>So you the Cardinals or the Dodgers. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals. What has always struck me, Jeff, about going

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<v Speaker 1>to Saint Louis is what an amazing baseball town that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that I went to a bar there

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<v Speaker 1>after a game once and I said to the and

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<v Speaker 1>the place was packed after the game. I said, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with this place? He goes, well, we're open

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one days a year. That's it. So they're only

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<v Speaker 1>open after Cardinal home games. Not everyone goes to downtown

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis. On a non game night, they don't even open.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the Cardinals are playing, they are absolutely packed

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<v Speaker 1>at all times. I've met people there, including a grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>who lives in Saint Louis, and she drives around. Her

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<v Speaker 1>car is like a Volkswagen bug and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball. In other words, there are seams running on

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the and since it's kind of circular, it looks just

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<v Speaker 1>like a baseball driving through the streets. And Tony Gwynn,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, got hit number three thousand in Montreal, and

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<v Speaker 1>he whispered to me once, he said, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wish I hadn't gotten three thousand to Montreal because there

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't anyone at the game. Our next game on

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<v Speaker 1>the road was in Saint Louis, and he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of wish I'd gotten three thousand in Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis because those people would have really appreciated. Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really special. Hey, we've got a Kirchen quandary.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where we ask you a question to respond

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<v Speaker 2>either on our socials at Great Game or What, or

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<v Speaker 2>With the NBA Finals happening right now, Celtics lead two

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<v Speaker 2>to zero. Game three will be on Wednesday night against

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Mavericks. Our favorite Kirkshin quandary would be the

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>current Boston Celtics team against the Kirkshin family. Now, Dad

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<v Speaker 2>set the stage. How many point lead do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Granted this is a hypothetically right, we have a

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty point lead with two minutes to go. The Celtics

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>have the ball inbounding under their own basket. The question is,

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>can we hold a thirty point lead in two minutes

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:29.120
<v Speaker 1>against the Celtics, And keep.

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<v Speaker 2>In mind the lineup for the Kirkchins is Tim and

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Kirkchhin, along with Mark, my sister's husband, who was

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 2>a good high school player, really good high school player,

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Kelly who arguably maybe was the best when it came

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>to our family. Sorry, Dad, at least given Kelly Kirchen

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>made fifty four out of fifty six free throws her

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>senior year, I would say she was quite a legend

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 2>in her high school days. And then are we putting

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>my wife, Emily Emily on the team. Okay, so as

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 2>a cheerleader, not about player. But it doesn't even matter

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>either way, right.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So I say that we lose. I say that the

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Celtics score every seven and a half seconds, score thirty

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>five thirty four points, and beat us by four because

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously we're not gonna score because the biggest problem, Jeff

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to be getting the ball in bounds. How

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna get it in bounds? I don't think

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>we are. Or if Mark just throws it as high

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>as he can, they're just gonna intercept it. Throw it

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to Jason Tatum. He's gonna dunk it, and then the

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>clock is gonna stop in the last two minutes of

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 1>an NBA game. Then we're gonna have the same problem

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>inbounding the ball. We're not gonna score. They're gonna score

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>every second seven seconds. They're gonna score thirty four points

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and beat us by four. You agree or not.

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna score more than that. I think

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna score every four. So with that being said,

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>kirkschhan Quandri, if you think we could.

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Win this, let us know.

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>But how many points do we have to be up

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>by with only two minutes to go for us to

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>actually pull off the wing? Is it thirty, forty five,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>fifty sixty? No, No, we don't need sixty. We would

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 2>if we had a forty point lead, we would win

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the game.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>We would still lose. No, we wouldn't. I think it

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>needs to be it's mathematically impossible.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I think Father's Day, this is our Father's Day. Addition,

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and I want to just thank Bill Biggie Field for

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>submitting a question at Great Game or what dot Com Now. Dad,

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>you were the greatest dad when I was a kid

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>growing up. You continue to be the best dad in

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the world. But he wrote a question that was very

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>interesting and a question I grew up getting all the time,

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 2>which was what was it like growing up with a

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>dad in baseball media? And he even added, you guys

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>seem like you have the best relationship. How did you

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>get that when dad was traveling all the time growing up,

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and I traveled.

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot, there's no doubt. But again, I didn't travel

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>hardly at all during the off season, and I picked

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and chose when I would go on the road other

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.360
<v Speaker 1>than October and spring training. So you guys came with

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>me to spring training a bunch of times. You've been

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to the World Series with me, You've been to the

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>All Star Game with me. And I must say, in

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>my defense, I was the ultimate master at getting home

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as possible, staying for as long as I could,

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and then leaving. Plus I was at the house all

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the time. You know. I didn't go into the office

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>every day. The house was my office. So when I

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>was home, I was really home. I was making you

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>guys lunches every day, picking you up from school. So

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that's my excuse.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Two of my favorite things memories of my dad when

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I was growing up was Dad always would pick us

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>up at the bus stop when he was in town,

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>which was a lot of the time, but every once

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 2>in a while he would pick us up while riding

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the ride on mower right, go up the street, pick

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>us up on the ride on mower and drive back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, my dad was the king of the field trip.

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>He was chaperone on almost every field trip. Famously milked

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>a cow on one of my sister's field.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Trips, but ferguson farm right.

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite was when we were on one

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>of those big coach buses and I can't even remember

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>where we were going, but the Pory Park.

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We play on the TVs.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>The bus driver played October Sky and there's my poor

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 2>old dad in the third row crying, and all the

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>kids on the bus in the back with me are saying, Jeff.

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Is that your dad crying watching this movie? Look, I

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>can't help it. So I famously asked you and Kelly.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 1>You were like five, Kelly was like seven. After we

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>watched that movie together, I said, so, Jeff, what was

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that movie about? And you said it was about a rocket.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what the movie was about. So I looked at Kelly,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>and I said, Kelly, what was that movie about? Seven

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>year old? Kelly Kirchen said, Dad, that was a movie

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>about a father and a son. And that's exactly what

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that movie was about, which is why poor Pop Pop

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was crying in the bus with a bunch with a

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>bunch of third graders around me. All right, let's go.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Pop, Pup, I have to say something about

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>my dad. My dad, Pop was the greatest father ever,

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>greatest husband ever, greatest grandfather ever. And he gave he

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.959
<v Speaker 1>gave a great feel of baseball to you know, Andy,

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Matt and Tim Kirchen. He not only taught us how

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to play, but he taught us how to understand what

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the game was all about. And as you know, Pop

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>was a really funny little guy too, and he was

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a really good player in his day. And I can't

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you how many times, Jeff, we would be in

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the in the rec room watching the game after our

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>games are over and he would throw a pillow down

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the of the reck room and

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>show us how to make the double play, like here's

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>where you put your feet, got to keep so And

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>he always would say when you throw, you got to

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>throw from down here sidearm in order to get that

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>runner to slide. And he would always throw the ball

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>into the couch there. Well, one time he threw it

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit too high and it missed the couch

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and went through the French store windows and broke the

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>fred store windows, which was not a good thing. So

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he looks at me, his youngest son, and says, Tim,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>tell mom that you did it, and I'll get you

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>off easy. That was That was my dad. And but

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the beauty, Jeff of baseball and fathers and sons is

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they're everywhere. The game is littered with fathers and sons

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>who played in the Big leagues. The Boone family is

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>arguably the greatest family of baseball players in Major League

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>history because they had a grandfather Ray, a father Bob,

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and two boys, Aaron and Brett, who all made the

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>All Star team. So the only family in the history

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of baseball that had three generations of All Stars are

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the Boones. And they got a picture take at Ray, Bob,

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Brett and Aaron on the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'd seen it many times. It's really great. And

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Aaron told me that years ago, maybe ten years ago,

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he said, I saw my father cry twice in my

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>entire life. One was when I got the manager's job

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>with the Yankees, and the other was when Bob Boone

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>was the manager of the Reds and he hauled his

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>son in to tell him because Brett Aaron was on

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the Reds, to tell him that he had made the

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>All Star team. Those are the stories that you have

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to love. And of course there's the Harriston family, another

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>three generation family. Sam Harrison, Jerry Harston Senior, Jerry Harston Junior,

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and Scott Harrison all played in the major leagues. We

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>love that. And again there's some great statistical anomalies. I've

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>already told you this more than once. Prince Fielder and

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Cecil Fielder, father and son, finished their careers with exactly

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and nineteen home runs, which I just find amazing.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Langs, aren't that right? Craig Bigio and Cavin Biggio

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and Gary Ward and Daryl Ward are the only father

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>son combos to hit for the cycle, which we love.

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>The Ripkins, of course, I covered the Ripkins in Baltimore.

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen eighty seven, Cal Senior was the manager,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Billy Ripkin was the second baseman. Cal Ripken was the shortstop.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And I remember remember Edward Bennett Williams, the owner of

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the team, came to spring training and saw these Ripkins

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>like running all over the place, and he looked at

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>me and he goes, he says, we need to send

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>more Ripkins. He goes, we got three of them out there.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>We need three, four or five? Can we send three

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>more Ripkins? And the Ripkin family was just so close knit.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>And this is so classic. Cal Senior for Christmas one

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 1>year bought his sons metal protective cups to wear. Derry Gabes.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the Christmas present that he got for his two boys.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Which is If that's not a perfect baseball question answer,

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is. Of course, the Griffies had

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the greatest father son day of anyone in history. You know,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Ken Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Sr. Played on the

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>same team and in a game against the Angels in

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety they hit back to back home runs. Ken

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Griffy Junie's how could that possibly happen? Of course, the

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Bonds is Bot, Barry and Bobby are the greatest combo

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>platter father son in Major League history. When you add

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>up their homers and their stolen bases, it's just inconceivable

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>how productive. They were. But you know, one of my

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>favorite families, of course, is the Bell family. Gus Bell

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>played in the major leagues. Buddy Bell, who I covered

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>with the Rangers, played in the major leagues, of course,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>was a great third baseman, and David Bell and Mike

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Bell also played in the major leagues. Another three generation family.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So in eighty two, the first year I really met

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and got to know Buddy Bell, I got to ask

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>talking to him about his dad, and he said Gus

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.239
<v Speaker 1>would come to games once in a while. Because he's

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a major league player, he can't get to all these

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>games when Buddy is growing up. But he made it

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to a high school game once, and he drove his

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>car and parked it beyond the center field fence because

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to sit around all the fans who

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what they were talking about. He won, wanted

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to watch the game in peace. And Buddy told me,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>if I made a good play, my dad honked the

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>horn once. If I made a great play, he honked

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the horn twice. How great is that? A father son

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>combo like that? All right? Before we get to the Ravages,

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Sam and Carl Ravagh of ESPN. We have to finish

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>this with the I have a team every week. She

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>called Team Tim. So this week we're gonna look at

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the father son the best father son combos at each position. Okay,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's a great competition here. But Yogi Berra is

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the catcher. He had two sons who played in the

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Major leagues, and we have Hall of Famer Pad Rodriguez,

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>whose son played in the Major leagues. First basement is

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>George Sisler, who had two sons who played in the

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Major leagues. He's a Hall of Famer. Craig Bigio is

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>our second baseman. Cavin Biggio is his son. Buddy Bell,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>who we mentioned, is the third baseman. With two sons

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>who played the shortstup. We don't have a Hall of Famer,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>but we have Boba Schett, who's really good, son of

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Dante Bishett and Fernando Tetist Junior, who used to be

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a shortstop. Down outfielder is the son of Fernando Toetist Senior.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>The outfield and how good are these guys? Ken Griffy

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Junior and his dad Hall of famers Barry Bonds and

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>his dad not Hall of famers, but we kind of

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>understand why. And then we also have Tony Gwyn Vladimir

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Guerrero Senior Hall of Famer, Tim Rains Hall of Famer,

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>all have sons who played in the Major leagues. In fact,

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Tim Rains played with his son also they didn't had

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a home run of the same game. And of course

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>our utility player is Pete Rose, whose son Pete Rose Junior,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>played in the Major League briefly. And Ed Waalsh, one

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of the great pitchers from the early nineteen hundreds. I

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't know this, but he had a son who played

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>in the Major leagues. And our managers, so we can

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>get the Boons in on this team. Somewhere are Aaron

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and Bob Boone, who our father son who also managed

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Major leagues.

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 2>So fitting to have a father's on broadcasting duo talking

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to a brother, a father son broadcasting duo on is

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>this a great game?

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Or what? Carl and Sam Ravitz join us next on

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the show.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 5>Is this a great game? Or what our Father's Day edition?

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 2>And as a father son broadcasting duo, we thought it

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>to be only fitting to bring in another father son

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>broadcasting duo Carl and Sam Raviits.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 5>Are on the show. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us.

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thanks for women those churcheons.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 3>We've waited a long time for this to be in

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>the same category as other father son including the Kurchions,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of them out there, and it's

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 3>great to be on this podcast with you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, well, Sam, we'll start with you.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 7>We know how much your dad taught you when you

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 7>were a kid about life and broadcasting and everything else.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 7>Give us something that he didn't teach you that you

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 7>probably should have known because he wasn't telling you the

0:36:58.520 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 7>right thing.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 8>Dad always taught me to work hard, be on time.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 8>One thing he did not really teach me was to

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 8>cook a whole lot, although I learned that from my mom.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 8>He taught me how to grill. I will give him

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 8>credit for this. Mad Dad was always doing the laundry,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 8>so I am always the laundry guy around the house.

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 6>That is something that I do that he taught me.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 8>And cleaning, I mean, he was always a clean guy.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 8>So like all of these good things, he taught me

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 8>all the good things the bad things. I think I

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 8>learned from all of my friends but a lot of

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 8>the good things around the house, he taught me.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is why Tim, you and I get along

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 3>so well. Like you and I had a lot of

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 3>similar traits and qualities, with the exception of that getting

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>to the airport, you know, twelve hours early. But we

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 3>can light clean things. We're big into instant gratification of

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 3>vacuuming and lawn cutting so you can see results immediately,

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 3>grilling for sure, all the things. That's why you and

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I have become so close.

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 8>But here's here's the here's the thing, though it has

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 8>it has now verged on the precipice of like OCD

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 8>for me because I'm taking it a little bit too

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 8>far where like everything has to be clean, and my

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 8>wife is like, can you just leave it for a second.

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 6>Like I'm that guy that I'm like, I'm gonna I'm

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 6>flying back from Tallahassee to uh to Connecticut today. I'm

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 6>going to unpack my backpack and my backpack and my

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 6>bag right away when I got home. Like I'm that guy.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you Jeff, jump in here in a second. Here's

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>how bad I am when I go on a trip,

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>even if it's for two days.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 5>I take everything out of my suitcase or bag.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I put it in the drawers, and I put the

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>suitcase in a place where I don't have to see

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it so I don't feel like I'm on a road trip.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>Jeff, does this make sense to you?

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit for how

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>crazy you are. Because my dad but usually is in

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>person for the podcast in the basement I'm recording from

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>with the two of you right now. He'll be here

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty hours. He'll get here on a Sunday night,

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and he'll leave a Monday night, and he'll still unpack

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 2>his bags after arriving after baseball tonight, driving Frum Connecticut

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to Pa, puts this stuff in, takes it out, and

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>packs it up the next day. And Sam, I'm with you.

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>We have been pursed with amazing fathers, yes, but also

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>men that have created this sense of needing to be neat,

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>clean and tidy. I'm the same way. It drives me nuts.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't fall asleep if there's dishes in the sink.

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It drives me insane.

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 6>Something percent with you, Jeff.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 8>But the thing is is like you were just mentioning

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 8>the airport so we're all clean we're tidy, we got

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 8>the laundry done, but like we will be not late,

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 8>but we are just on time, Like we are not

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 8>showing up early to things.

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 8>I have heard a numerous amount of stories from producers

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 8>at ESPN to anybody working on shows that Dad has done,

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 8>and they all say he comes prepared, he's ready to roll,

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 8>but he's showing up like when we gotta go, he

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 8>is ready to go right when he needs to be there.

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 5>Rebby explain how you never worry about those things? I

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 5>worry about everything? How do you do that?

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I think never worrying is overstated. I think what you

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 3>don't see is the early worry. Like, all right, you

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 3>have to be in a mind frame of how many hours,

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>how many minutes is it going to take to walk

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 3>from point A to point B, or to drive from

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 3>point A to point B. But that involves checking ways early.

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not as if I get in the car

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 3>and hope things work out. There's a lot of FOURK

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 3>thought that goes into it. I will say, I do,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure like you three have that dream every

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 3>now and then of not being able to get to

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 3>the studio literally in the building. I've been in for

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty years. Every door is locked. I cannot get to

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the show. That is a dream slash nightmare that I

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>have had where I'm walking the halls and every door

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm supposed to go through is closed, and yet I

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 3>can see through some window. The show is like starting

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>like that happened. And I will say this. You know

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>when we did the games from Connecticut and Miami during

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic in Korea, I learned that whether I'm there

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 3>or not, the show is.

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 6>Going to start.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 9>I mean the KBO game we ever did, We're supposed

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 9>to start at this silly hour of five twenty five am.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 3>We all know broadcasts start on the hour and at

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 3>the worst on a half hour. Not twenty five minutes happen.

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>And we found out fifteen minutes before this KBO game,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 3>of course, in which we know zero players, and they

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 3>said rain your games rained out, We're now going to

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>go do the sk wyns and the KT whiz. And

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 3>literally that's telling us you're now going to have a

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 3>blind exam. I went into the other room in my

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>house to print out rosters because otherwise there he goes or,

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 3>as Harold Reynolds famously said on a set of Baseball Tonight.

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 5>My man Miel.

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, my man. So I go to print off rosters

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 3>and it's five twenty four, five twenty five, and I'm

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 3>slowly walking back on to my little studio and I

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>hear EDWARDO. Perez say, welcome to the Kado. Well, there

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 3>you have the show lent on. I said, sorry, I

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 3>was printing out rosters. And maybe you guys are good

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 3>at that speaking to this. Having done something for thirty

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 3>years and Tim a little bit longer, you do develop

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a leash where they allow something like that.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't panic about that. It doesn't happen

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>very often, but it did happen that morning, and I'm

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>still employed, right.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 5>And that one is Y's greatest strength is he never panicked.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Sam.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 7>We did a Baseball Tonight my first year there, nineteen

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 7>ninety eight, and the show wasn't even supposed.

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 10>To happen, and then jud Birch walked in and said, okay,

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 10>we're doing forty five minutes right now.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 5>No rundown, no shot sheets, nothing, we get it.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>He gets in our ear the producer and says, boys,

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>good luck, you're gonna need it.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 10>And your father never panicked, he steered the ship, Harold,

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 10>and I just followed him.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 5>Perfect point guard. That is the key for all young broadcasters.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Never panicked, Sam, Jeff, you agree.

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 2>When we started doing morning radio, this is as true

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 2>as can be.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm the morning show host, right, I'm the one bringing

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 2>people in. I talk out of the song and say

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>do all that stuff. And my dad always talked about

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the stress of being a great point guard.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 5>As a host.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 2>And always use Sam, your dad as the example as

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the best point guard in the game of television because

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 2>he knows how to cue people up. Not in the

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>obvious way, right, dam didn't you have a story like that?

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>But doing it when you've been doing it as long

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>as these gentlemen have together, of course it gets easier

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>because you just know where he's gonna go with this.

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>If you bring up a ground rule double. You know,

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 2>for Tim kirkshon over, there is going to blow a

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 2>casket a casket that he's gonna have to say it's.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>An automack double.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:27.879
<v Speaker 5>And Carl knows that.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>But the point is being a point guard, Carl, is

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>something that you My dad uses you as example, has

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 2>taught me how to be a better teammate and be

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>a good point guard to use the people around us.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 5>And Sam, I mean, I'm sure you learned that from

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 5>your dad as well.

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 8>That was one of the things that he told me

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 8>going into this thing, was, you know, he has always said,

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 8>I want to be remembered as a broadcaster, not really

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 8>always for.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 6>What I did, but for the fact that I've made.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 8>The people on the show better, Like you know, being

0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 8>that point guard and facilitating that's always the skill of

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 8>his and that's something that I hear again from people

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 8>at ESPN who worked on Baseball Tonight or who worked

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 8>in the Baseball space. They always said the most difficult

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 8>show at ESPN was the Baseball Tonight when they were

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.959
<v Speaker 8>doing two days, because you just didn't always know.

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 6>What was happening.

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 8>And when you have somebody that panics in those moments,

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 8>not always the best teammate, right, So you got to

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 8>have somebody that can be a little bit calm and

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 8>be a little bit poised. I'll tell you this story

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 8>really quick. I remember that it was I was probably

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 8>in middle school and my dad was playing in a

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 8>charity golf tournament in Hartford. I think it was the

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 8>PGA kind of event. That they have here at Hartford,

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 8>and I was going to caddy and again just speaking

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 8>to the showing up right on time. I know my

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 8>dad remembers this.

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 6>We pulled up in the circle and he was playing

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 6>in it. I was caddying his tea. Time was about

0:45:59.040 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 6>like at noon.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 8>Showed up at eleven fifty nine and I grabbed a

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 8>bag out of the trunk. We're racing to the tea box.

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 8>He goes up there, gives a wave to everybody on

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 8>the first tee, and he pipes a nice draw down

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 8>the first fairway about three hundred yards and he set

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 8>up perfectly, and I'm like, that's the coolest thing I've

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 8>ever seen.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I do remember that, and I will say

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 3>again those that circumstance was beyond our control because that

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Travelers Championship was the day after the College World Series

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 3>had ended. I had flown in, so again the airlines,

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>which unfortunately screwed things up more than they have success,

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 3>they screwed that up. I was delayed, so it was

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 3>literally a wire shot, and thankfully we made it. That

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 3>had nothing to do with this concept that you guys

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 3>have been talking about about kind of getting there a

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 3>few minutes in advance, but I do that intentionally. There

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.959
<v Speaker 3>was no intent on that one was the point being

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 3>was it was cool, like you just that part's great.

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 4>But see, you know what I know about Jeffrey and Sam,

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 4>tim that they have that they have listened to thankfully,

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 4>is in our field.

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 3>And even as a parent, I think it's important. You know,

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 3>as a dad, it's hard to be a one trick pony.

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be a one trick pony. And

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that is true about your career. And you know,

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I know Jeffrey is incredibly versatile and he's done some

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 3>of the play by play stuff. We've seen him in Williamsport,

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 3>which was amazing. You know, Sam went about this differently

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 3>than I did. I started in a small market and

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>was a news and sports anchor in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in Binghamton,

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 3>New York, and then went to ESPN and did those

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 3>overnight sports centers and over thirty years transitioned into play

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>by play. Sam began his whole thing doing play by

0:47:55.480 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>play double A Baseball in Richmond, Virginia, and then continue

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 3>the play by play stuff at ESPN, and I continuously

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 3>implored him try to get into the studio. Do those

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 3>things be as versatile as you can. Part of being

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the great point guard comes from the experience of being

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.839
<v Speaker 3>a host a co host on a show in which

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 3>two people are doing Sports center. You're interviewing different people

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 3>throughout the show. That's why I think the transition to

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 3>play by play is a lot easier. And Baby, Sam

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 3>and Jeff, when you went from studio person or play

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 3>by play person into studio that you had that tool

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 3>in your tool box already, and it makes you better

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 3>at what you're doing now.

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Sam and Carl, I have to ask because what you

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>two do is as Carl mentioned, right, Sam, you're doing

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 2>play by play. Carl, you're doing play by play and

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.399
<v Speaker 2>show hosting. What is that dynamic like? Because I don't

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 2>my dad's not calling me and saying, hey, you got

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it wrong. Luke colnbs is the second best country artist

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty for right. So, even though we do

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>tell stories and I interview people for a living and

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>doing this podcast, I've learned so much from my dad

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 2>about how to interview, how to have a good interview

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 2>when we prep together. It's I've learned so much And

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 2>if I get anything from this podcast, besides a great

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 2>time I've been able to spend with my dad, it's

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.919
<v Speaker 2>going to be seeing how he prepares for things.

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.720
<v Speaker 5>But Sam, are.

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 2>You asking your dad for air checks?

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 5>Like, hey, can you listen to this?

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Or Carl, are you listening in and sending notes? Or

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 2>is it more of a you know, hey, don't ask,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 2>don't tell it's work. Let's keep working hard and getting better.

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:39.280
<v Speaker 6>I think it's a little bit of both.

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 8>Like I will send him some of my shows and

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 8>ask him for feedback. But he's he's always been like

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 8>a I'm not going to intrude on your space. He

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 8>wanted me to learn, you know, on my own. It

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 8>doesn't really do me a service, I don't think by

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 8>just trying to dictate some of what we do and

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 8>how we do it.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 6>I've always asked for.

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 8>Advice help whenever I thought like I could use it,

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 8>and he's always been very gracious with you know, his

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 8>time and been watching it and giving me advice as well.

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 8>But you know, along with the the advice of actually

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 8>like the job portion of it, sometimes I just need

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 8>the fatherly advice on it, which is like you're doing great, man,

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 8>Like just just take it easy, enjoy the ride.

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna be fine.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 8>This is supposed to be fun like that is That

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.399
<v Speaker 8>is some of the best advice I think I can get.

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 8>The other stuff, like, you know, we'll learn like anybody

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 8>on a normal on any any job, right, you learn.

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 6>As you go.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 8>But sometimes you just need that that that comforting hand

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.280
<v Speaker 8>behind you to say, like you're doing all right, It's okay,

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 8>right well.

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And preparation, as we've talked about, is so important because

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I live in fear of being unprepared for question being

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>asked or something that I don't know.

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.359
<v Speaker 5>And I think I can tell the story ravy our.

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Dear friend Kyle Peterson, who's you know, the best college

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>baseball analyst, one of our best friends, absolutely tremendous.

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 5>He tells the story that he was a dugout reporter.

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 10>At early on and some obscure guy had just come

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 10>out of the game and they asked Kyle to interview

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:14.320
<v Speaker 10>the guy.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 5>But he starts the interview and he doesn't know who

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 5>the guy is and he has to.

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 10>Ask, who are you? I mean, those are the things

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 10>that I absolutely live in fear of. You guys must

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 10>have similar circumstances where you.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Go, boy, I better know what I'm doing here, Otherwise

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I could make a complete fool of myself.

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 8>I'll say this tim really quick. We have a game,

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 8>like I said, did a regional final last night. There

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.760
<v Speaker 8>was a point in which after the game, I started

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 8>hearing the producer count down in my ear two in

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 8>a postgame interview.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 6>I had no idea who we were interviewing at the time.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 8>I hear ten, we got an interviews coming on ten,

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 8>and I'm hitting the talkback button saying who do we got?

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:58.240
<v Speaker 6>Who do we got?

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 8>And we we finally figured it was a great interview.

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 8>But yes, to your point, if you if you stay ready,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 8>you don't have to get ready to absolutely and.

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Raby how many times?

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 11>And you and I stand underneath the stands at Yankee

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 11>Stadium or Fenway Park, we can't even see the final

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 11>play of the game because we're tracked in a runway somewhere.

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 5>Then we have to run out on the field and

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 5>interview people. Again.

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why you got to be quick on your feet

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in this business, otherwise you're not gonna make it.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, faking on your feet or seat, depending on

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 3>whether you're standing or sitting, is important. The idea of

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 3>not knowing a person you're interviewing or something like that.

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, having done baseballs and I for twenty odd

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 3>years there was and sports center, soil, you learn little

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 3>secrets and tricks of the trade. I mean to suggest

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 3>that off the fifteen games a night, when all of

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 3>a sudden they come in with a marin or highlight

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and some backup catchers in there, you learn. You know,

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 3>if you kind of lay out here, the play by

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 3>play voice in the background that's actually on the original

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 3>highlight is likely going to mention the guy's name, so

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you hear the name and then you sound a lot

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 3>more informed. And I'm sorry, I don't know. I did

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 3>not know every single major league player during the years

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 3>we were doing Baseball Tonight. Similarly hockey highlights with a

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of the foreign players. I know, sports and rankers

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.120
<v Speaker 3>have learned to just let the highlight kind of play

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 3>a little bit without saying something when you don't know

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 3>if it's for Shanky or for Yankee that's making the play.

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 3>The play by play guy, you'll hear it on that

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 3>highlight and then you can kind of pick up on it.

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 3>So there's little tricks in the trade, you know that

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:42.760
<v Speaker 3>you can learn just two quick stories about the teaching

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 3>part of it, my philosophy, you know, and look, we

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 3>have dads too, or had dads too. The field I

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.479
<v Speaker 3>got into was an absolute foreign language to my bomb

0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 3>and dad. This whole thing was something they couldn't ever

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 3>offer advice on because they didn't even understand it. And

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 3>after not getting a job in Binghamton when I was

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 3>the week end sports anchor and not getting the weekday

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 3>job when a good friend of Tim andized Bill Pedo

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 3>he left as the week day guy, I was supposed

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 3>to take his job and didn't get it. So I

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>thought that's the end of his career. And my dad said,

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 3>probably want to come home. Now, we'll start you know,

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 3>let's start over, Let's get a real job. I'm supporting,

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.280
<v Speaker 3>come on back. So there wasn't a lot of advice

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 3>that way, but there was plenty of advice on the

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>other things. To what Sam is talking about being a

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 3>good teammate, you know, saying yes to generally any assignment

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 3>you're being asked to do. The easier you make your

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 3>boss's life, the more opportunities you're likely to have. Because

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 3>in our field there are many who are pain in

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.720
<v Speaker 3>the ass to the boss, they make it harder on them,

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 3>and just be the guy or the woman that they

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 3>it gets along with everybody. Learn the tricks of the

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 3>trade so you can appreciate, you know, what an audio

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:09.839
<v Speaker 3>person is doing, what a cameraman is going through, how

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 3>our producer is thinking. As opposed to you probably should

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 3>have said this here, layout, here, peaks and valleys with

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the voice. But those things I learned by observing the

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:25.360
<v Speaker 3>people in the field, not necessarily by asking a parent

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 3>or a father who never was in it. You guys

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 3>have parents that are in it. I just don't ever

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 3>look at it like that's that's my you know, my

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 3>primary responsibility. You'll you'll figure it out. And you're you,

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, most importantly, don't be me, you know, be you.

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 3>We've been around. Think about the legends of broadcasting. Who

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 3>are our peers that have gone on to such great

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 3>things and Chris Berman and Mike Turco and Chris Fowler

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and Rhys Davis and John Saunders and Robert Roberts. There

0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 3>are just little bits and pieces that you observed that

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 3>they didn't come and tell me. And you pick up things.

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 3>But you've got to be yourself. And I always felt

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 3>too much interference means you're going to be more like

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 3>new or don't Stewart stut there's only one that ever lived.

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Don't try that. And there was a generation of people

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 3>who did try the mimicking thing, and that's just not me.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, Carl, I have a question a little bit about

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, day of when you're doing a big, big

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 2>game of Sunday night baseball, a Monday night baseball game,

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and when my dad was in the booth with you guys,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it always seemed like there was a running bit or

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 2>a gag or something that you were able to get

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the audience in on. And I recall one of my favorites,

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and I hope I don't steal your favorite story, which

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>is when you guys were at Fenway Park and my

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>dad was wearing a winter coat in the booth, mind.

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 5>You, and gloves.

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he had lost.

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>One of his gloves and he was complaining, I can't

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 2>find my glove. Can't find my glove. And at every

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>bump shot, you know, when you come back from a

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 2>commercial or you're about to go to a commercial, you

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 2>had the whole camera crew in on it putting his

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>glove and different on the monster.

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 3>It's on a scene and Dad never noticed it played

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the playback. I mean, just genius.

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I just love I had to because I know you

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 2>had to have been behind that front, right.

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 3>You know it's I was certainly a part of it.

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean there was We were always trying to conspire

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 3>ways and unfortunately your dad, who I know is in

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 3>the room and can hear this. He is one of

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the perfect targets for things like because of the way

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 3>he behaves and look with you know, there's a great

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 3>story about getting to a Yankee game when it's snowing

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 3>seven hours early, sitting in a parking garage that it

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 3>wasn't even open. Somehow he got the car in there.

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 3>The game gets canceled, he's got to go home. But

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 3>he created so many of those opportunities. You know, we

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 3>still arted this before we came on to do the

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 3>podcast The Heavy Side the Knee Platt. There are so

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 3>many mannerisms that everybody, everybody, I mean Jeff and Sam.

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 3>You walk into a Baseball Tonight green room and as

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 3>soon as he walks in, oh and then everybody as

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:24.439
<v Speaker 3>everybody's doing the Tim kirkshinak. So yeah, the glove thing

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>was great because and Wardo was in on everybody was

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 3>in on it, and there was this glove. You know,

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 3>it's like the TV over Sam's you know, left shoulder there.

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Everybody can see it except the gloves. The glove there,

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 3>it's in the popcorn. It's everywhere, right, right, kid? It

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 3>was wonderful, right.

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 12>The message here, though, The chemistry between the people on

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 12>air is the most important thing, whether you're in a

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 12>booth or in the studio. Rammy and I have great chemistry,

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 12>and I easily irritate him and easily annoy him by

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 12>bringing back the same old lines and the same old

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 12>jokes because he's already heard him before, and he he rolls.

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>His eyes better than any one I've ever seen. Whether

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, some stupid joke that I.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 5>Tell, he even knows it's coming.

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 10>Now on every show we do, I look at rab

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 10>and go. Did I ever tell you I went to

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<v Speaker 10>Walter Johnson High School? And he just wants to leave

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<v Speaker 10>the booth. But the irritable rabb is an even better RAVI.

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<v Speaker 10>So I'm a big believer. Chemistry in the booth is

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<v Speaker 10>absolutely critical. You young guys recognize that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 6>Tim.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm curious when was the first moment that you realize, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I think I can have some chemistry with this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it was right.

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<v Speaker 1>Away with Ravi because again I saw very early on

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<v Speaker 1>as the show host, just like we talked about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>his job was to make me feel comfortable there because

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<v Speaker 1>he knew if I was uncomfortable, I wasn't gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>any good and if he panicked and and he was uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have no chance. So the chemistry begin very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly between the two.

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<v Speaker 10>As far as throwing barbs at each other, that took

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<v Speaker 10>a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Years and then and now it's like an all out

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<v Speaker 1>war every time we go on the air, and it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hilarious until these people and again, you guys have

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<v Speaker 3>dealt with social media your entire life. What is what

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<v Speaker 3>always I find so amazing is while we would do

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<v Speaker 3>a broadcast and Tim is about to start a story

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll just finish it before he goes into did

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<v Speaker 3>I ever tell you yes, I know, yes, I know

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<v Speaker 3>you wrote for that and all of those I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>People would would unfortunately sit there and say, please leave

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<v Speaker 3>Tim alone, like we make fun of Tim, And at

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<v Speaker 3>that point I just said, you know that in a

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<v Speaker 3>sense you're not getting it. And like you said, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>the goal is to invite people in like you, We're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make you part of this if you were,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we got to a point, or I

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<v Speaker 3>certainly got to a point where it felt like you

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<v Speaker 3>had a certain real core group of people that were

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<v Speaker 3>watching who understood. It's like watching Seinfeld whatever. You get it,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, I get it. And the first time

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<v Speaker 3>somebody watches that show, they may look at it and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, I don't understand any of it, but the

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<v Speaker 3>other people in the room who've watched it for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>they understand it. And the other point about the comfort

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<v Speaker 3>and the chemistry and the point guard. Anybody that ever

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<v Speaker 3>does play by play should realize personally that I believe

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<v Speaker 3>we are only as good as the analysts, because those

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<v Speaker 3>are the ones with the expertise. I don't really think,

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<v Speaker 3>with the exception of a very few people, that people

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<v Speaker 3>tune in to hear who's doing the play by play.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, game five, game six, game seven, we're all

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<v Speaker 3>gonna watch because it's game five, six or seven, not

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<v Speaker 3>because play by play person X Y and Z are

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. I always look at the play by play

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<v Speaker 3>and booth as the condiment to the main course. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's a burger where the ketchup and the salt and

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<v Speaker 3>the mustard and the pickle, that's what we are. We

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<v Speaker 3>can make it taste a little bit better, but you're

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<v Speaker 3>still gonna eat. You still want to watch that. And

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<v Speaker 3>the only way that you entice people to watch it

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<v Speaker 3>is to make sure that the Tims and the Eduardos

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<v Speaker 3>and the Cones and the bus and the Heralds are comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Buck show author is like one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most wonderful human beings ever. But it was very evident

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<v Speaker 3>to us when he first started there wasn't he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable on TV. And if you could figure out a

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<v Speaker 3>way to get Buck to be loose and to share

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<v Speaker 3>what he does in the room with us on TV,

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<v Speaker 3>we all win, and the viewer wins. And that to

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<v Speaker 3>me is the key. If you can get those guys

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<v Speaker 3>to be as comfortable as possible and as good as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>And to your point, Chef, that doesn't me saying Tim,

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember when Barry Bonds came? Like of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim remembers that you've gotta take them down a road

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<v Speaker 3>that they're not exactly sure. And I know the analyst

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<v Speaker 3>on our show had said, you never know what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell he's gonna ask you, And I think that's important.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got to keep the analysts on edge.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to sit there and think like

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is gonna be rote and routine and easy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know it. I'm not. I'm never gonna embarrass

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<v Speaker 3>anybody ever. But I know I listened to what they

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<v Speaker 3>say in the green room and other things later on,

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna come up in the show, like that's coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>and it may have nothing more often than nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>do with baseball. But if Bobby Valentine talks about a

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<v Speaker 3>bike accident and that he had or left a wallet

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<v Speaker 3>where Tim said something, we will bring that up. That

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<v Speaker 3>becomes the inside joke that everybody at home is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be privy to that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Long right, long story, I'll make it quick. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got a speeding ticket while doing a radio show on

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<v Speaker 1>my way to Brace the Ones with my daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>her best friend in the backseat.

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<v Speaker 5>Ravi the Mischievous Ravi the found.

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<v Speaker 10>The audio of me talking to a policewoman one time

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<v Speaker 10>was doing a radio show and ran it. Ambushed me

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<v Speaker 10>on the show that night. It was one of the

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<v Speaker 10>stupidest things I've ever seen. It was totally hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's because he recognized that's funny, and that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the battle.

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<v Speaker 5>When you're a play by play guy or any on

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<v Speaker 5>air guy. What is going to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and quickly? Jeff, look the wedding dancing video of times.

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<v Speaker 3>The most maybe the most important lesson in all of

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<v Speaker 3>this is, hey, be comfortable with who you are and

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<v Speaker 3>don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. My god, Tim

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<v Speaker 3>has made a career not only out of laughing at

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<v Speaker 3>himself but because of it causing everyone else to have

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<v Speaker 3>a good time and laugh too.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of gained that mischievous in all in good

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<v Speaker 2>heart and all of it. But do you have that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of It's very creative to come up with these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things. Let me find this radio clip, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get this dancing clip because Tim said he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to a wedding. Do you find that you

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<v Speaker 2>had that creative streak?

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<v Speaker 8>I find that I like, I want to have it,

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<v Speaker 8>but I don't feel like I'm at the point yet

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<v Speaker 8>where I think I deserve to be having that amount

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<v Speaker 8>of leeway, Like I feel like I need to be

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit more straight laced right now. Maybe once

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<v Speaker 8>we establish ourselves a little bit more, we could we

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<v Speaker 8>could get a little bit more creative. But the one

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<v Speaker 8>thing that I do agree with that my dad said

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<v Speaker 8>was like, you have to be able to laugh at

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<v Speaker 8>yourself when you when you mess up, or when you

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<v Speaker 8>make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 6>Or you know, just in general.

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<v Speaker 8>Like this again, I go back to just saying this

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<v Speaker 8>is supposed to be fun. If we're not having fun

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<v Speaker 8>on the air, I guarantee you the people at home aren't.

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<v Speaker 6>Having fun either. So yeah, that that is another piece of.

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<v Speaker 8>Advice that that I have just carried along with me

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<v Speaker 8>and the I think the mantra on Baseball tonight for

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<v Speaker 8>a long time when I would always go in was

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<v Speaker 8>just get comfortable being uncomfortable like that was something they

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<v Speaker 8>would always say, and I chopped.

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<v Speaker 6>That with me too.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, we can keep you guys all day, but

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<v Speaker 1>Sam has to go to the airport. One question, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a printed boarding pass in your pocket

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, Because I have never left a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>room or home without a printed boarding pass in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>Or you like your dad, who doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>He just shows up and walks through.

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<v Speaker 6>I have not checked into my flight yet. How about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so proud of you. That's just you leave in

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<v Speaker 3>ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll try not to get a speeding ticket on the

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<v Speaker 6>wind of the airport.

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<v Speaker 5>Right while you're doing a radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, all right, well raight.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl, thank you so much for joining the podcast seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>And Sam, I know you'll join me in saying a

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Father's Day to these two amazing broadcast dads. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for being our best friends, our biggest supporters. We

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<v Speaker 2>would not have what we have in our lives without you.

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<v Speaker 2>We both sound a lot like our dad. Sam, You're

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<v Speaker 2>a lot luckier than I am in that case because

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<v Speaker 2>your dad's got him velvet smooth boys, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>this uberty voice that I'm dealing with. But thank you

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<v Speaker 2>Sam and Carl. Happy Father's Day. Carl and Dad, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you guys so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's great, great, Thanks everyone, you guys agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Sam, Thank you Carl for joining us for

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<v Speaker 2>our Father's Day episode. And Dad, you mentioned it at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very special.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a first time dad. This is my very first

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<v Speaker 2>Father's Day. We got a ten month old baby girl.

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<v Speaker 2>She is just the light of my life. She's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife just had her first Mother's Day naturally, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I pulled out all the stops. I got

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<v Speaker 2>her these rings that have the name of our new

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<v Speaker 2>puppy Ranger, and then McKinley with her birth stone, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a little stackable rings, and got her like

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<v Speaker 2>this really cute bag that she can carry McKinley in

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. And she just recently asked me, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want for your first Father's Day? And without hesitation,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, a new vacuum for the pool And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you serious? And I said, yeah, absolutely, make my

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<v Speaker 2>life a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I used to make fun of you

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<v Speaker 1>for asking for very practical gifts growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, thinking, Dad, don't you want something cool, some fancy machine.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, no, I just need some new socks and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a new shovel.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be nice, Right, that's a dad gift, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you remember one Father's Day recently for Father's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a broom to help clean the house. You

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<v Speaker 1>got me an ear trimmer so I could trim my ears,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got me a trimmer so I could shave

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<v Speaker 1>my back. Now that's a father's day that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget something to clean the floors, shave your ears, and

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<v Speaker 1>to shave your back. That's an Armedian father. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and to all the dads out there, a

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<v Speaker 2>happy Father's Stay to you. Thank you for making us

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<v Speaker 2>a part of your Father's Stay week, and as always,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for being a part of our family.