Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what?
Speaker 2: And welcome to our Father's Day edition of the show.
Speaker 2: We're going to be joined by Karl Ravich and his
Speaker 2: son Sam Ravich, who both are broadcasters for ESPN. Yeah,
Speaker 2: big baseball broadcasters. And Carl also dips right into college
Speaker 2: basketball as well.
Speaker 1: And it's a special episode for us because well we're
Speaker 1: a father son duo as well, right, And this is
Speaker 1: your first Father's Day as a father. McKinley Kirchen was
Speaker 1: born on August tenth of twenty twenty three. So what's
Speaker 1: it like for you to be a father the first time?
Speaker 1: With Father's Day coming up?
Speaker 2: It's probably the coolest feeling because I always knew I
Speaker 2: wanted to be a dad, and that's because I had
Speaker 2: my dad as an example as a great father. But
Speaker 2: you know, people always tell you, oh, you don't know
Speaker 2: love until you hold your baby for the first time,
Speaker 2: and not that I would roll my eyes at that,
Speaker 2: but I always thought, oh, yeah, I kind of get No,
Speaker 2: there's no comparison of the first time I got to
Speaker 2: hold our baby girl. And I mean I was also
Speaker 2: happy for other reasons because while my wife was in labor,
Speaker 2: Michael Lorenz in to the Phillies at the time was
Speaker 2: throwing a.
Speaker 1: No hitter and did so successfully. So there's two reasons
Speaker 1: to be happy, right. So we thought McKinley was going
Speaker 1: to be born on your birthday and on the same
Speaker 1: day that Michael Lorenza threw a no hitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I turned thirty at the hospital and then my
Speaker 2: wife went into labor at like nine pm on the
Speaker 2: night of my thirtieth birthday, and then she labored for
Speaker 2: quite some time and we had the baby the next morning,
Speaker 2: so she would have her own birthday August the tes.
Speaker 1: So McKinley has been how many major league games and
Speaker 1: she's not even eight months old? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So she how she's three major league games, including the
Speaker 2: game we went to and did a live show from
Speaker 2: for the Als game, which was really really special, the
Speaker 2: first time we ever brought McKinley to a baseball game.
Speaker 1: It was really cool.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of ballparks do this, but
Speaker 2: you have to go get a certificate, a first game certificate.
Speaker 2: Every team does it and we still have it to.
Speaker 1: This day, and it was really I got to put
Speaker 1: it in a frame. It's a basketball ticket. Happy Father's Day,
Speaker 1: Jeff for the first time.
Speaker 2: And happy fathers, say to you, Dad, And we're gonna
Speaker 2: get more into fathers, including fathers and sons of baseball.
Speaker 2: But I first have to ask you about the London series,
Speaker 2: because as we are recording this on Monday afternoon to
Speaker 2: release on Tuesday, you have just flown in from London
Speaker 2: and drove from the Philadelphia airport to my home forty
Speaker 2: five to fifty minutes north of the airport we're recording.
Speaker 1: How jetlaged are you? I'm very tired, but I had
Speaker 1: such a great time in London. That's the takeaway from
Speaker 1: this week, Jeff, is what a great job everyone in
Speaker 1: London did. There wasn't one hiccup through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball did a great job. The ballpark was
Speaker 1: in great shape, it was pack The Brits are really
Speaker 1: starting to get it in baseball much more. You know,
Speaker 1: it's an acquired days, Jeff. They don't play baseball over there.
Speaker 1: It's a soccer and a cricket country. But it was really,
Speaker 1: really good. And you know I told you I went
Speaker 1: last year. Cubs and Cardinals traveled like I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: I couldn't take five steps in London without seeing a
Speaker 1: Cubs or Cardinal fan. This year, the Mets traveled very
Speaker 1: well and the Phillies traveled exceptionally well. They were Philly
Speaker 1: fans were everywhere. So we talked to Rob Tubbs and
Speaker 1: the manager of the Phillies, and he heard from one
Speaker 1: of the coaches that there was a Phillies bar. In fact,
Speaker 1: there were three Phillies bars in London, and one was
Speaker 1: at you know, what's it called Passaic Passion pass Avenue
Speaker 1: was the name of one of the bars. So Rob said, well,
Speaker 1: if a couple of coaches are going, we're all going
Speaker 1: to go. So the coaching staff and the manager of
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies go into this bar in London and
Speaker 1: Rob said, the place what absolutely bananas because they're all
Speaker 1: Philly fans in there. And then these guys roll in.
Speaker 1: So I thought, I said, Rob, what did you say,
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen minutes just to make an appearance, and he goes, no,
Speaker 1: we stayed two hours. We had a great time. That's
Speaker 1: how great that part was. Bryce Harper was the star
Speaker 1: of the weekend, mostly in part because he had a
Speaker 1: home run in the game on Saturday. Now he had
Speaker 1: planned I asked him all about this. He had planned
Speaker 1: it in advance that if he hits a home run,
Speaker 1: he's going to go do a slide on his knees
Speaker 1: like soccer players do when they score a goal. So typical.
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper goes, well, I got to hit a homer
Speaker 1: to do this, and then he hits one of the
Speaker 1: third deck. It was just ridiculous. As Dave Debrowski the
Speaker 1: GM told me, he said, only Bryce could pull off
Speaker 1: something like that. So he hits the homer and he
Speaker 1: starts running towards the dugout and then he hits his
Speaker 1: knees and slides. Rob Thompson told us like he's looking
Speaker 1: at Bryce running right after him, at him, going what
Speaker 1: in the hell is he doing here? And then Rob
Speaker 1: didn't really recognize until after the game in the postgame
Speaker 1: that this was a soccer slide. So when I asked
Speaker 1: Bryce about it, I said, did you practice this? And
Speaker 1: he goes, no, I've never really done that before. And
Speaker 1: he said, and yes, I was a little worried that
Speaker 1: I might get something caught underneath me, but he said,
Speaker 1: I said, what the heck. When I hit it out
Speaker 1: of the ballpark, I said, I'm going to do a
Speaker 1: slide into home plate. I mean into the dugout. It
Speaker 1: was absolutely tremendous. So you talked about the Sunday game, Jeff,
Speaker 1: So I called the Sunday game with Michael Ka and
Speaker 1: Doug Lamville on excellent job. It was so much fun
Speaker 1: as always. So we get to a play at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. You know, Jeff, you know my mantra.
Speaker 1: I tell people, like every day of my life, the
Speaker 1: greatest part about baseball is you can go to a
Speaker 1: game and you might see something that you've never seen before.
Speaker 1: And I've seen whatever four thousand games in person, and
Speaker 1: I saw something that I know I'd never seen before.
Speaker 1: So bases loaded one run lead in the ninth inning,
Speaker 1: Nick Cassianos is up with one out. He hits a
Speaker 1: little tapper in front of the plate, breaks his bat
Speaker 1: into one thousand pieces, and Luis Enz, the catcher for
Speaker 1: the Mets, jumps out in front of the plate, grabs
Speaker 1: the ball which is rolling just in front of the plate,
Speaker 1: runs back, tags the plate, and throws to first for
Speaker 1: a double play. That is a two two three double play.
Speaker 1: So I say immediately on the air, that's one of
Speaker 1: the craziest finishes to a game that I have ever seen.
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm guessing no games, especially a one
Speaker 1: run game, has ever ended quite like that with a
Speaker 1: two two three double play. So of course I called
Speaker 1: Frank at the Alive Sports Bureau. We counted grounded into
Speaker 1: double plays starting from nineteen forty on in both leagues,
Speaker 1: and that was the first time why the game had
Speaker 1: ever ended one run game had ever ended on a
Speaker 1: play quite like that. It was absolutely crazy, as slapped
Speaker 1: my forehead about five times after the game, like how
Speaker 1: can it end like that? But the bottom line is
Speaker 1: it was a fabulous, fabulous time in London, and I
Speaker 1: hope we keep going back there all right. Other takeaways
Speaker 1: from the week, of course, Aaron Judge had another preposterous week.
Speaker 1: He has thirty one extra base hits in his last
Speaker 1: thirty games through Sunday. The only other Yankee that has
Speaker 1: ever done that is Joe DiMaggio in nineteen thirty seven,
Speaker 1: and for a thirty two game stretch, Judge had a
Speaker 1: higher had the highest ops of anyone in baseball since
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds in two thousand and four, and of any
Speaker 1: Yankees since Babe Ruth in nineteen twenty four. That's how
Speaker 1: hot Aaron Judge has been lately, he has been an
Speaker 1: absolute machine, and as we talked about last week, all
Speaker 1: of this happened after he got ejected for the first time.
Speaker 1: Just crazy.
Speaker 2: It's funny how the way base all works that way.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe that was what he needed to kind
Speaker 2: of turn things around because it was not a good
Speaker 2: start to the session. Who is your game changer of
Speaker 2: the week this week now, Jeff?
Speaker 1: Our game changer is we're trying to present somebody who
Speaker 1: has persevered, who has made a change in his career
Speaker 1: and has done something remarkable when it didn't look like
Speaker 1: he was ever going to get there. So Matt Waldron
Speaker 1: is a pitcher for the Padres and he throws a knuckleball,
Speaker 1: and in his last six starts he's three and one
Speaker 1: with a one point seven eight era. Jeff, when I
Speaker 1: grew up covering the game, and when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, there were knuckleball pitchers, not everywhere, but it
Speaker 1: was not uncommon to see a knuckleball pitcher. Well, he's
Speaker 1: basically the only knuckleball pitcher in the game today, and
Speaker 1: he throws a knuckleball thirty seven percent of the time.
Speaker 1: It's not like Phil nicro or Charlie Huff or you know,
Speaker 1: or Tim Wakefield. But he's still throwing a knuckleball. He
Speaker 1: started experimenting with it in twenty twenty one and now
Speaker 1: he's really got going really well. And Jeff, we don't
Speaker 1: throw knuckleballs anymore because we're so velocity conscious that we
Speaker 1: want everyone to just blow everyone away. So no one's
Speaker 1: teaching the knuckleball. So this guy has gone to an
Speaker 1: area where no one is even teaching. In fact, they're
Speaker 1: not encouraging anyone to learn to throw a knuckleball, which
Speaker 1: I think is a mistake. And he has really succeeded
Speaker 1: because Jeff, when you throw a knuckleball, it is really
Speaker 1: really hard to do. So years ago, the Orioles had
Speaker 1: a guy named Daniel Boone. That was his name, and
Speaker 1: he was a direct descendant of the Daniel Boone and
Speaker 1: Daniel Boone weighed one hundred and forty pounds, it was
Speaker 1: five 't eight and his second incarnation of baseball, he
Speaker 1: came back as a knuckleball pitcher. So I asked him about,
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the knuckleball and being a direct descendant
Speaker 1: of Daniel Boone, and he said, yeah, I thee Daniel
Speaker 1: Boone was must have been a really courageous man. But
Speaker 1: he said, I don't think he would have the courage
Speaker 1: to throw a knuckleball with on a three to two
Speaker 1: pitch with the basics. That's how hard it is to
Speaker 1: throw a knuckleball. And by the way, I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever told you this. I faced a knuckleball pitcher,
Speaker 1: a major league knuckleball pitcher, Charlie Huff in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: He was coming off the disabled list. He had a
Speaker 1: knee injury, and he wanted to throw a simulated game
Speaker 1: before he came back. So I'm at Arlington Stadium covering
Speaker 1: the simulated game to see if the best pitcher on
Speaker 1: the team, Charlie, is coming back. And Doug Rader, the
Speaker 1: mischievous manager of the Rangers, literally picks me up and says,
Speaker 1: you're gonna face Charlie Huff. And I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: facing a major league pitcher. He said, yes, you are.
Speaker 1: So I took four at bats against Charlie Huff throwing
Speaker 1: a knuckleball, and it was one of the great experiences
Speaker 1: of my life because I wreck because all sorts of
Speaker 1: hitters have told me you can't hit a knuckleball. I'd
Speaker 1: rather face one hundred miles an hour than a knuckleball.
Speaker 1: First off, it can mess you up for the next game,
Speaker 1: and you can't follow it when it's thrown. Well, here,
Speaker 1: it's there, it's everywhere. So needless to say, I didn't
Speaker 1: put a ball in play. I didn't even make contact
Speaker 1: in four at bats against a great knuckleball pitcher. But
Speaker 1: at least now I can say I faced Bob Feller
Speaker 1: in an exhibition game, and I faced Charlie Huff in
Speaker 1: a stimula game. Two major league pictures. Love that. That's
Speaker 1: pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: Let the record show that this was mentioned on the
Speaker 2: podcast before Bob Feller.
Speaker 1: How old was he when you faced? It was like
Speaker 1: sixty two years. I mean not discrediting you. No, you
Speaker 1: can discredit me, believe me. Yes, we have with the
Speaker 1: quirtchins for the week. Let's see the quartions. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: so you know how much I love sacrifice flies. This
Speaker 1: is way over the top even for me. So on
Speaker 1: his thirtieth birthday, Harrison Bader of the Mets hit two
Speaker 1: sacrifice flies on his thirtieth birthday. So I called the
Speaker 1: Elias and said, has anyone ever hit two sacrifice flies
Speaker 1: on their birthday? Because you know, we have guys who
Speaker 1: had homers on their birthday. Strike we talked about Paul
Speaker 1: Skeins dragging it out nine on his birthday, and we
Speaker 1: found out that Bobby Meacham in nineteen eighty four and
Speaker 1: Roy McMillan in nineteen sixty one are the only two
Speaker 1: players other than Harrison Vader now to hit two sacrifice
Speaker 1: flies on their birthday. So I told Harrison Bader this
Speaker 1: and he stops me. Man, he goes, tell me, I'm
Speaker 1: the only one that's ever done this. I said, sorry, Harrison,
Speaker 1: you're the third guy that's ever done it. But I
Speaker 1: just love stuff like that. So Jaron Duran of the
Speaker 1: Red Sox hit his tenth triple of the season, and
Speaker 1: the you know, we're only sixty six games in, so
Speaker 1: I checked for the last player to have that have
Speaker 1: ten triples in so few games of a season, and
Speaker 1: that was Jose Reyes in two thousand and eleven. Because
Speaker 1: as we know, Jeff, we don't hit triples anymore. We
Speaker 1: hit a lot of home runs, but not many people
Speaker 1: hit triples. So it really stands out that somebody's got
Speaker 1: ten triples already. Ellie Day. Look who we talk about
Speaker 1: every week on this because he's so spectacularly talented. But
Speaker 1: he recorded his fourth four strikeout game this season. So
Speaker 1: keep in mind the Major League record for a for
Speaker 1: four strikeout games in one season is seven by Dick
Speaker 1: Allen in nineteen sixty five. Ellie de la Cruz is
Speaker 1: over halfway there. My guess is that that record is
Speaker 1: going to fall and again Jeff different time, different era,
Speaker 1: but Tony gwyn Stan, Musial Joe DiMaggio had three three
Speaker 1: strikeout games in their careers combined, one each, and Elie
Speaker 1: de la Cruz, granted those guys didn't see the pitching
Speaker 1: we're seeing today, already has four four strikeout games. Plus
Speaker 1: we had a game the other day. It was the
Speaker 1: White Sox against the Cubs, and Corey Jenks led off
Speaker 1: the game with a home run on the first pitch,
Speaker 1: and Mike Takman ended the game with a walkoff homer.
Speaker 1: So the first pitch of the game was a homer
Speaker 1: and the last pitch of the game was a homer.
Speaker 1: So I was surprised that we didn't have to go
Speaker 1: back very far. Jose Altuve in nineteen I mean, in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two let off a game with a first
Speaker 1: pitch Homer and Aaron Judge ended it with a walkoff Homer.
Speaker 1: So those are the quirtions for the week. That's impressive.
Speaker 1: What about birthdays this week?
Speaker 2: I know we're celebrating Father's Day on the show, but
Speaker 2: do you have any birthdays for Is this a great
Speaker 2: game or what?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Brock Holt, this is his thirty sixth birthday today. Brock
Speaker 1: Holt is the only player ever to hit for the
Speaker 1: cycle in a postseason game. And I've told you many times, Hank, Aaron,
Speaker 1: Willie Mays, Barry Bods, Babe Ruth never hit for the cycle.
Speaker 1: Brock Holt is the only player to hit for the
Speaker 1: cycle in a postseason game. And in eighteen sixty And
Speaker 1: this is for you, Jeff, A guy was born. His
Speaker 1: name was Pop Joy. That's his name. Now, what is
Speaker 1: the name of our our company that does the podcast
Speaker 1: Joy Pop Production? Right? So this was Pop Joy.
Speaker 2: And for anybody you know, we Joy Joyce Kirkshen is
Speaker 2: my dad's mom, my grandmother, and Pop is what we
Speaker 2: call my grandfather who is originally.
Speaker 1: Jeffs And Father's Day we have we have a shout
Speaker 1: out to Pop Joy. Major league player was born at
Speaker 1: eighteen Joy eighteen sixty amazing. Who is he playing along with?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you only had names like pop Joy
Speaker 2: of the eighty nine Toe Johnson. He was toeing the
Speaker 2: rubber right And we also had some pretty good things
Speaker 2: on this date in baseball history, and this date in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty eight, Johnny Vandermere through the.
Speaker 1: First of his two consecutive no hitters. Of course, no
Speaker 1: one else has ever done that. Nolan Ryan on this
Speaker 1: date in nineteen ninety through his sixth no hitter. Of
Speaker 1: course he would finish with seven. No one else has
Speaker 1: more than four. Nolan Ryan is the greatest power picture
Speaker 1: of all time, the hardest pitcher to hit in Major
Speaker 1: League history. And last thing is the Brewers on this
Speaker 1: date retired Paul Molechers number four. We talked about great
Speaker 1: number fours last week. So Molitor becomes the manager of
Speaker 1: the Twins and he's walking around the ballpark in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: when the Twins go to Milwaukee and there's his number
Speaker 1: up there, and one of the younger young players on
Speaker 1: his team came up to him and said, is that
Speaker 1: you up there? Is that your number up there? And
Speaker 1: Paul Maler is the most humble guy in the world.
Speaker 1: Looks at me, he goes, yeah, let's be up there.
Speaker 1: So I just wish some of our young players would
Speaker 1: actually remember exactly who came before that. It's in the cards.
Speaker 2: We're gonna rip them a pack of tops cards here
Speaker 2: and we start with.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a great card. Raoul one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players. So, Raoul Lebanya's Jeff has the most
Speaker 1: career homers of anyone whose last name starts with I.
Speaker 1: Of course, I know the all time home run leader
Speaker 1: for every letter of the alphabet. I could do it
Speaker 1: for you right now, but that would be ridiculous and
Speaker 1: it would take too much time. Plus, Raoulabanyez is one
Speaker 1: of three players joining Hank Sour and Davy Lopes. Try
Speaker 1: to picture this, Jeff more homers in his forties than
Speaker 1: he hit in his twenties. That's crazy. Think about that
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 2: All right, next step, not the country star, but the
Speaker 2: baseball player. It's Kenny Rogers.
Speaker 1: Oh love Kenny Rogers. So Kenny Rogers was a left
Speaker 1: handed outfielders shortstop in high school. Weighed one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds, but because he had such a great arm,
Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers drafted him as a pitcher, but he
Speaker 1: had never pitched before. So he goes to spring training
Speaker 1: for the first time as a professional baseball player, and
Speaker 1: Sid Hudson, the pitching coach for the Rangers, says, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see you throw off the mount and then he said,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see you go from the stretch. The stretch,
Speaker 1: not the wind up. And Kenny Rogers looks at Sid
Speaker 1: Udson it said, I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1: He had never done that before, and the ilready is
Speaker 1: a He turns out to win over two hundred games
Speaker 1: in his major league career and had one of the
Speaker 1: best pickoff moves I've ever seen, and yet he didn't
Speaker 1: even know how to go from the stretch when he
Speaker 1: first became a professional baseball player.
Speaker 2: One player who has been really stepping up this season
Speaker 2: at Mundo Sosa since Trey Turner went Yeah, and Trey.
Speaker 1: Turner is going to be back in the next week,
Speaker 1: which is great news for the Phillies, but Sosa has
Speaker 1: been absolutely tremendous for them. First twenty seven games that
Speaker 1: he played in shortstop replacing Trey Turner, did not make
Speaker 1: an error and really swung the bat exceptionally well. And
Speaker 1: he's won of Rob Thompson's all time favorite players. So
Speaker 1: Sosa in London overslept and is because of the time
Speaker 1: change and everything else. And he showed up late to
Speaker 1: the ballpark for the Friday workout. And he's never late,
Speaker 1: He's always the first guy there. So he comes running
Speaker 1: out to the outfield and to Rob Thompson who's on
Speaker 1: the field, and he's literally crying, weeping, like I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: My cell phone died when I was asleep and I
Speaker 1: got caught up in the in the jet lag. He
Speaker 1: was crying, and Rob Toombs had to say, and Mundo,
Speaker 1: don't worry. You're good. So he ed. He played like
Speaker 1: he played really well over the weekend.
Speaker 2: All right, Miles Michaelas all right, Miles Michaelis is a
Speaker 2: good major league pitcher. But what struck me about him
Speaker 2: was last year at the London Series, he went all
Speaker 2: over London like experimenting, being an adventurer and seeing everything
Speaker 2: he could possibly see. He said a very interesting thing
Speaker 2: to me, he said, he said, this is what the
Speaker 2: trip to London is all about, is what.
Speaker 1: You see beyond baseball, he said. I played three years
Speaker 1: in Japan, he told me, and he goes. I you
Speaker 1: can probably remember three games that you know, specific games
Speaker 1: like shut out here, But he said, but I'll never forget, say,
Speaker 1: going to the concentration camps in Japan or Hiroshima. These
Speaker 1: are the things that we take away from these trips.
Speaker 1: It was such a profound look at things by major
Speaker 1: League Baseball player, very encouraging. How about a Doug Glanville
Speaker 1: dog Landville, my friend. You just hung out with him
Speaker 1: in London. I hung out a lot with Doug in London.
Speaker 1: He is so much fun. And I said this at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the broadcast. He wrote a poem to
Speaker 1: kick off the broadcast, and I had to say on
Speaker 1: the air to Michael, Okay, you know, this just isn't
Speaker 1: fair that Doug Glanville played the Major League for a
Speaker 1: long time and he's a better writer than me. That
Speaker 1: just isn't right, because he wrote a beautiful poem to
Speaker 1: kick off the Sunday game in London.
Speaker 2: Well not the swar as I named my dog after
Speaker 2: as in Ranger.
Speaker 1: This is oh, I'm gonna screw it. New Haneos. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna call you Jenny O right heineo sar.
Speaker 1: Very popular guy with the Mariners was traded to the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks in the offseason. Strikes out a lot, has gotten
Speaker 1: much better defensively, and he hits the ball out of
Speaker 1: the ballpark. Not at the same rate this year as
Speaker 1: other years. But Jeff, this this just shows you how
Speaker 1: your poor dad sometimes just goes way overboard. I thought
Speaker 1: Suarez was going to lead the league in homers one year,
Speaker 1: and he's got all the vowels in his name aeio,
Speaker 1: and you are in Haanio Suarez. So I actually went
Speaker 1: through all the home run champions of all time to
Speaker 1: see if there's anyone else that has an aeio and you.
Speaker 1: A guy named Jack forty A in nineteen twenty four
Speaker 1: led the Major League, led the league in home runs,
Speaker 1: and has all the vowels in his name, of course,
Speaker 1: Eddie Figueroa, Nelson Figueroa, two guys who played in the
Speaker 1: Major leagues have all their vowels in their last name
Speaker 1: ae aeio and you in their life. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go league in lids. Here.
Speaker 2: We've put every single Major League Baseball team in this
Speaker 2: amazing lids hat that has every team in it, and
Speaker 2: every week we pull a different team name. And right now,
Speaker 2: you're looking at the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 1: All right, there's an argument, what's the greatest team in
Speaker 1: the greatest franchise in the history of the National League.
Speaker 1: So you the Cardinals or the Dodgers. It might be
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. What has always struck me, Jeff, about going
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis is what an amazing baseball town that is.
Speaker 1: I told you that I went to a bar there
Speaker 1: after a game once and I said to the and
Speaker 1: the place was packed after the game. I said, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with this place? He goes, well, we're open
Speaker 1: eighty one days a year. That's it. So they're only
Speaker 1: open after Cardinal home games. Not everyone goes to downtown
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. On a non game night, they don't even open.
Speaker 1: But when the Cardinals are playing, they are absolutely packed
Speaker 1: at all times. I've met people there, including a grandmother
Speaker 1: who lives in Saint Louis, and she drives around. Her
Speaker 1: car is like a Volkswagen bug and it looks like
Speaker 1: a baseball. In other words, there are seams running on
Speaker 1: the and since it's kind of circular, it looks just
Speaker 1: like a baseball driving through the streets. And Tony Gwynn,
Speaker 1: you know, got hit number three thousand in Montreal, and
Speaker 1: he whispered to me once, he said, I kind of
Speaker 1: wish I hadn't gotten three thousand to Montreal because there
Speaker 1: there wasn't anyone at the game. Our next game on
Speaker 1: the road was in Saint Louis, and he said, I
Speaker 1: always kind of wish I'd gotten three thousand in Saint
Speaker 1: Louis because those people would have really appreciated. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: really special. Hey, we've got a Kirchen quandary.
Speaker 2: This is where we ask you a question to respond
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Speaker 2: With the NBA Finals happening right now, Celtics lead two
Speaker 2: to zero. Game three will be on Wednesday night against
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. Our favorite Kirkshin quandary would be the
Speaker 2: current Boston Celtics team against the Kirkshin family. Now, Dad
Speaker 2: set the stage. How many point lead do we have?
Speaker 1: Now? Granted this is a hypothetically right, we have a
Speaker 1: thirty point lead with two minutes to go. The Celtics
Speaker 1: have the ball inbounding under their own basket. The question is,
Speaker 1: can we hold a thirty point lead in two minutes
Speaker 1: against the Celtics, And keep.
Speaker 2: In mind the lineup for the Kirkchins is Tim and
Speaker 2: Jeff Kirkchhin, along with Mark, my sister's husband, who was
Speaker 2: a good high school player, really good high school player,
Speaker 2: Kelly who arguably maybe was the best when it came
Speaker 2: to our family. Sorry, Dad, at least given Kelly Kirchen
Speaker 2: made fifty four out of fifty six free throws her
Speaker 2: senior year, I would say she was quite a legend
Speaker 2: in her high school days. And then are we putting
Speaker 2: my wife, Emily Emily on the team. Okay, so as
Speaker 2: a cheerleader, not about player. But it doesn't even matter
Speaker 2: either way, right.
Speaker 1: So I say that we lose. I say that the
Speaker 1: Celtics score every seven and a half seconds, score thirty
Speaker 1: five thirty four points, and beat us by four because
Speaker 1: obviously we're not gonna score because the biggest problem, Jeff
Speaker 1: is going to be getting the ball in bounds. How
Speaker 1: are we gonna get it in bounds? I don't think
Speaker 1: we are. Or if Mark just throws it as high
Speaker 1: as he can, they're just gonna intercept it. Throw it
Speaker 1: to Jason Tatum. He's gonna dunk it, and then the
Speaker 1: clock is gonna stop in the last two minutes of
Speaker 1: an NBA game. Then we're gonna have the same problem
Speaker 1: inbounding the ball. We're not gonna score. They're gonna score
Speaker 1: every second seven seconds. They're gonna score thirty four points
Speaker 1: and beat us by four. You agree or not.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna score more than that. I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna score every four. So with that being said,
Speaker 2: kirkschhan Quandri, if you think we could.
Speaker 1: Win this, let us know.
Speaker 2: But how many points do we have to be up
Speaker 2: by with only two minutes to go for us to
Speaker 2: actually pull off the wing? Is it thirty, forty five,
Speaker 2: fifty sixty? No, No, we don't need sixty. We would
Speaker 2: if we had a forty point lead, we would win
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: We would still lose. No, we wouldn't. I think it
Speaker 1: needs to be it's mathematically impossible.
Speaker 2: I think Father's Day, this is our Father's Day. Addition,
Speaker 2: and I want to just thank Bill Biggie Field for
Speaker 2: submitting a question at Great Game or what dot Com Now. Dad,
Speaker 2: you were the greatest dad when I was a kid
Speaker 2: growing up. You continue to be the best dad in
Speaker 2: the world. But he wrote a question that was very
Speaker 2: interesting and a question I grew up getting all the time,
Speaker 2: which was what was it like growing up with a
Speaker 2: dad in baseball media? And he even added, you guys
Speaker 2: seem like you have the best relationship. How did you
Speaker 2: get that when dad was traveling all the time growing up,
Speaker 2: and I traveled.
Speaker 1: A lot, there's no doubt. But again, I didn't travel
Speaker 1: hardly at all during the off season, and I picked
Speaker 1: and chose when I would go on the road other
Speaker 1: than October and spring training. So you guys came with
Speaker 1: me to spring training a bunch of times. You've been
Speaker 1: to the World Series with me, You've been to the
Speaker 1: All Star Game with me. And I must say, in
Speaker 1: my defense, I was the ultimate master at getting home
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, staying for as long as I could,
Speaker 1: and then leaving. Plus I was at the house all
Speaker 1: the time. You know. I didn't go into the office
Speaker 1: every day. The house was my office. So when I
Speaker 1: was home, I was really home. I was making you
Speaker 1: guys lunches every day, picking you up from school. So
Speaker 1: that's my excuse.
Speaker 2: Two of my favorite things memories of my dad when
Speaker 2: I was growing up was Dad always would pick us
Speaker 2: up at the bus stop when he was in town,
Speaker 2: which was a lot of the time, but every once
Speaker 2: in a while he would pick us up while riding
Speaker 2: the ride on mower right, go up the street, pick
Speaker 2: us up on the ride on mower and drive back.
Speaker 1: Now, my dad was the king of the field trip.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: He was chaperone on almost every field trip. Famously milked
Speaker 2: a cow on one of my sister's field.
Speaker 1: Trips, but ferguson farm right.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite was when we were on one
Speaker 2: of those big coach buses and I can't even remember
Speaker 2: where we were going, but the Pory Park.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We play on the TVs.
Speaker 2: The bus driver played October Sky and there's my poor
Speaker 2: old dad in the third row crying, and all the
Speaker 2: kids on the bus in the back with me are saying, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Is that your dad crying watching this movie? Look, I
Speaker 1: can't help it. So I famously asked you and Kelly.
Speaker 1: You were like five, Kelly was like seven. After we
Speaker 1: watched that movie together, I said, so, Jeff, what was
Speaker 1: that movie about? And you said it was about a rocket.
Speaker 1: That's what the movie was about. So I looked at Kelly,
Speaker 1: and I said, Kelly, what was that movie about? Seven
Speaker 1: year old? Kelly Kirchen said, Dad, that was a movie
Speaker 1: about a father and a son. And that's exactly what
Speaker 1: that movie was about, which is why poor Pop Pop
Speaker 1: was crying in the bus with a bunch with a
Speaker 1: bunch of third graders around me. All right, let's go.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Pop, Pup, I have to say something about
Speaker 1: my dad. My dad, Pop was the greatest father ever,
Speaker 1: greatest husband ever, greatest grandfather ever. And he gave he
Speaker 1: gave a great feel of baseball to you know, Andy,
Speaker 1: Matt and Tim Kirchen. He not only taught us how
Speaker 1: to play, but he taught us how to understand what
Speaker 1: the game was all about. And as you know, Pop
Speaker 1: was a really funny little guy too, and he was
Speaker 1: a really good player in his day. And I can't
Speaker 1: tell you how many times, Jeff, we would be in
Speaker 1: the in the rec room watching the game after our
Speaker 1: games are over and he would throw a pillow down
Speaker 1: in the middle of the of the reck room and
Speaker 1: show us how to make the double play, like here's
Speaker 1: where you put your feet, got to keep so And
Speaker 1: he always would say when you throw, you got to
Speaker 1: throw from down here sidearm in order to get that
Speaker 1: runner to slide. And he would always throw the ball
Speaker 1: into the couch there. Well, one time he threw it
Speaker 1: a little bit too high and it missed the couch
Speaker 1: and went through the French store windows and broke the
Speaker 1: fred store windows, which was not a good thing. So
Speaker 1: he looks at me, his youngest son, and says, Tim,
Speaker 1: tell mom that you did it, and I'll get you
Speaker 1: off easy. That was That was my dad. And but
Speaker 1: the beauty, Jeff of baseball and fathers and sons is
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. The game is littered with fathers and sons
Speaker 1: who played in the Big leagues. The Boone family is
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest family of baseball players in Major League
Speaker 1: history because they had a grandfather Ray, a father Bob,
Speaker 1: and two boys, Aaron and Brett, who all made the
Speaker 1: All Star team. So the only family in the history
Speaker 1: of baseball that had three generations of All Stars are
Speaker 1: the Boones. And they got a picture take at Ray, Bob,
Speaker 1: Brett and Aaron on the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago.
Speaker 1: And I'd seen it many times. It's really great. And
Speaker 1: Aaron told me that years ago, maybe ten years ago,
Speaker 1: he said, I saw my father cry twice in my
Speaker 1: entire life. One was when I got the manager's job
Speaker 1: with the Yankees, and the other was when Bob Boone
Speaker 1: was the manager of the Reds and he hauled his
Speaker 1: son in to tell him because Brett Aaron was on
Speaker 1: the Reds, to tell him that he had made the
Speaker 1: All Star team. Those are the stories that you have
Speaker 1: to love. And of course there's the Harriston family, another
Speaker 1: three generation family. Sam Harrison, Jerry Harston Senior, Jerry Harston Junior,
Speaker 1: and Scott Harrison all played in the major leagues. We
Speaker 1: love that. And again there's some great statistical anomalies. I've
Speaker 1: already told you this more than once. Prince Fielder and
Speaker 1: Cecil Fielder, father and son, finished their careers with exactly
Speaker 1: three hundred and nineteen home runs, which I just find amazing.
Speaker 1: Sarah Langs, aren't that right? Craig Bigio and Cavin Biggio
Speaker 1: and Gary Ward and Daryl Ward are the only father
Speaker 1: son combos to hit for the cycle, which we love.
Speaker 1: The Ripkins, of course, I covered the Ripkins in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen eighty seven, Cal Senior was the manager,
Speaker 1: Billy Ripkin was the second baseman. Cal Ripken was the shortstop.
Speaker 1: And I remember remember Edward Bennett Williams, the owner of
Speaker 1: the team, came to spring training and saw these Ripkins
Speaker 1: like running all over the place, and he looked at
Speaker 1: me and he goes, he says, we need to send
Speaker 1: more Ripkins. He goes, we got three of them out there.
Speaker 1: We need three, four or five? Can we send three
Speaker 1: more Ripkins? And the Ripkin family was just so close knit.
Speaker 1: And this is so classic. Cal Senior for Christmas one
Speaker 1: year bought his sons metal protective cups to wear. Derry Gabes.
Speaker 1: That's the Christmas present that he got for his two boys.
Speaker 1: Which is If that's not a perfect baseball question answer,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is. Of course, the Griffies had
Speaker 1: the greatest father son day of anyone in history. You know,
Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Sr. Played on the
Speaker 1: same team and in a game against the Angels in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety they hit back to back home runs. Ken
Speaker 1: Griffy Junie's how could that possibly happen? Of course, the
Speaker 1: Bonds is Bot, Barry and Bobby are the greatest combo
Speaker 1: platter father son in Major League history. When you add
Speaker 1: up their homers and their stolen bases, it's just inconceivable
Speaker 1: how productive. They were. But you know, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite families, of course, is the Bell family. Gus Bell
Speaker 1: played in the major leagues. Buddy Bell, who I covered
Speaker 1: with the Rangers, played in the major leagues, of course,
Speaker 1: was a great third baseman, and David Bell and Mike
Speaker 1: Bell also played in the major leagues. Another three generation family.
Speaker 1: So in eighty two, the first year I really met
Speaker 1: and got to know Buddy Bell, I got to ask
Speaker 1: talking to him about his dad, and he said Gus
Speaker 1: would come to games once in a while. Because he's
Speaker 1: a major league player, he can't get to all these
Speaker 1: games when Buddy is growing up. But he made it
Speaker 1: to a high school game once, and he drove his
Speaker 1: car and parked it beyond the center field fence because
Speaker 1: he didn't want to sit around all the fans who
Speaker 1: didn't know what they were talking about. He won, wanted
Speaker 1: to watch the game in peace. And Buddy told me,
Speaker 1: if I made a good play, my dad honked the
Speaker 1: horn once. If I made a great play, he honked
Speaker 1: the horn twice. How great is that? A father son
Speaker 1: combo like that? All right? Before we get to the Ravages,
Speaker 1: Sam and Carl Ravagh of ESPN. We have to finish
Speaker 1: this with the I have a team every week. She
Speaker 1: called Team Tim. So this week we're gonna look at
Speaker 1: the father son the best father son combos at each position. Okay,
Speaker 1: and there's a great competition here. But Yogi Berra is
Speaker 1: the catcher. He had two sons who played in the
Speaker 1: Major leagues, and we have Hall of Famer Pad Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: whose son played in the Major leagues. First basement is
Speaker 1: George Sisler, who had two sons who played in the
Speaker 1: Major leagues. He's a Hall of Famer. Craig Bigio is
Speaker 1: our second baseman. Cavin Biggio is his son. Buddy Bell,
Speaker 1: who we mentioned, is the third baseman. With two sons
Speaker 1: who played the shortstup. We don't have a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: but we have Boba Schett, who's really good, son of
Speaker 1: Dante Bishett and Fernando Tetist Junior, who used to be
Speaker 1: a shortstop. Down outfielder is the son of Fernando Toetist Senior.
Speaker 1: The outfield and how good are these guys? Ken Griffy
Speaker 1: Junior and his dad Hall of famers Barry Bonds and
Speaker 1: his dad not Hall of famers, but we kind of
Speaker 1: understand why. And then we also have Tony Gwyn Vladimir
Speaker 1: Guerrero Senior Hall of Famer, Tim Rains Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: all have sons who played in the Major leagues. In fact,
Speaker 1: Tim Rains played with his son also they didn't had
Speaker 1: a home run of the same game. And of course
Speaker 1: our utility player is Pete Rose, whose son Pete Rose Junior,
Speaker 1: played in the Major League briefly. And Ed Waalsh, one
Speaker 1: of the great pitchers from the early nineteen hundreds. I
Speaker 1: didn't know this, but he had a son who played
Speaker 1: in the Major leagues. And our managers, so we can
Speaker 1: get the Boons in on this team. Somewhere are Aaron
Speaker 1: and Bob Boone, who our father son who also managed
Speaker 1: in the Major leagues.
Speaker 2: So fitting to have a father's on broadcasting duo talking
Speaker 2: to a brother, a father son broadcasting duo on is
Speaker 2: this a great game?
Speaker 1: Or what? Carl and Sam Ravitz join us next on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 5: Is this a great game? Or what our Father's Day edition?
Speaker 2: And as a father son broadcasting duo, we thought it
Speaker 2: to be only fitting to bring in another father son
Speaker 2: broadcasting duo Carl and Sam Raviits.
Speaker 5: Are on the show. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for women those churcheons.
Speaker 3: We've waited a long time for this to be in
Speaker 3: the same category as other father son including the Kurchions,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of them out there, and it's
Speaker 3: great to be on this podcast with you guys.
Speaker 5: All right, well, Sam, we'll start with you.
Speaker 7: We know how much your dad taught you when you
Speaker 7: were a kid about life and broadcasting and everything else.
Speaker 7: Give us something that he didn't teach you that you
Speaker 7: probably should have known because he wasn't telling you the
Speaker 7: right thing.
Speaker 8: Dad always taught me to work hard, be on time.
Speaker 8: One thing he did not really teach me was to
Speaker 8: cook a whole lot, although I learned that from my mom.
Speaker 8: He taught me how to grill. I will give him
Speaker 8: credit for this. Mad Dad was always doing the laundry,
Speaker 8: so I am always the laundry guy around the house.
Speaker 6: That is something that I do that he taught me.
Speaker 8: And cleaning, I mean, he was always a clean guy.
Speaker 8: So like all of these good things, he taught me
Speaker 8: all the good things the bad things. I think I
Speaker 8: learned from all of my friends but a lot of
Speaker 8: the good things around the house, he taught me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why Tim, you and I get along
Speaker 3: so well. Like you and I had a lot of
Speaker 3: similar traits and qualities, with the exception of that getting
Speaker 3: to the airport, you know, twelve hours early. But we
Speaker 3: can light clean things. We're big into instant gratification of
Speaker 3: vacuuming and lawn cutting so you can see results immediately,
Speaker 3: grilling for sure, all the things. That's why you and
Speaker 3: I have become so close.
Speaker 8: But here's here's the here's the thing, though it has
Speaker 8: it has now verged on the precipice of like OCD
Speaker 8: for me because I'm taking it a little bit too
Speaker 8: far where like everything has to be clean, and my
Speaker 8: wife is like, can you just leave it for a second.
Speaker 6: Like I'm that guy that I'm like, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 6: flying back from Tallahassee to uh to Connecticut today. I'm
Speaker 6: going to unpack my backpack and my backpack and my
Speaker 6: bag right away when I got home. Like I'm that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you Jeff, jump in here in a second. Here's
Speaker 1: how bad I am when I go on a trip,
Speaker 1: even if it's for two days.
Speaker 5: I take everything out of my suitcase or bag.
Speaker 1: I put it in the drawers, and I put the
Speaker 1: suitcase in a place where I don't have to see
Speaker 1: it so I don't feel like I'm on a road trip.
Speaker 5: Jeff, does this make sense to you?
Speaker 2: I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit for how
Speaker 2: crazy you are. Because my dad but usually is in
Speaker 2: person for the podcast in the basement I'm recording from
Speaker 2: with the two of you right now. He'll be here
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty hours. He'll get here on a Sunday night,
Speaker 2: and he'll leave a Monday night, and he'll still unpack
Speaker 2: his bags after arriving after baseball tonight, driving Frum Connecticut
Speaker 2: to Pa, puts this stuff in, takes it out, and
Speaker 2: packs it up the next day. And Sam, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: We have been pursed with amazing fathers, yes, but also
Speaker 2: men that have created this sense of needing to be neat,
Speaker 2: clean and tidy. I'm the same way. It drives me nuts.
Speaker 2: I can't fall asleep if there's dishes in the sink.
Speaker 2: It drives me insane.
Speaker 6: Something percent with you, Jeff.
Speaker 8: But the thing is is like you were just mentioning
Speaker 8: the airport so we're all clean we're tidy, we got
Speaker 8: the laundry done, but like we will be not late,
Speaker 8: but we are just on time, Like we are not
Speaker 8: showing up early to things.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 8: I have heard a numerous amount of stories from producers
Speaker 8: at ESPN to anybody working on shows that Dad has done,
Speaker 8: and they all say he comes prepared, he's ready to roll,
Speaker 8: but he's showing up like when we gotta go, he
Speaker 8: is ready to go right when he needs to be there.
Speaker 5: Rebby explain how you never worry about those things? I
Speaker 5: worry about everything? How do you do that?
Speaker 3: I think never worrying is overstated. I think what you
Speaker 3: don't see is the early worry. Like, all right, you
Speaker 3: have to be in a mind frame of how many hours,
Speaker 3: how many minutes is it going to take to walk
Speaker 3: from point A to point B, or to drive from
Speaker 3: point A to point B. But that involves checking ways early.
Speaker 3: Like it's not as if I get in the car
Speaker 3: and hope things work out. There's a lot of FOURK
Speaker 3: thought that goes into it. I will say, I do,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure like you three have that dream every
Speaker 3: now and then of not being able to get to
Speaker 3: the studio literally in the building. I've been in for
Speaker 3: thirty years. Every door is locked. I cannot get to
Speaker 3: the show. That is a dream slash nightmare that I
Speaker 3: have had where I'm walking the halls and every door
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to go through is closed, and yet I
Speaker 3: can see through some window. The show is like starting
Speaker 3: like that happened. And I will say this. You know
Speaker 3: when we did the games from Connecticut and Miami during
Speaker 3: the pandemic in Korea, I learned that whether I'm there
Speaker 3: or not, the show is.
Speaker 6: Going to start.
Speaker 9: I mean the KBO game we ever did, We're supposed
Speaker 9: to start at this silly hour of five twenty five am.
Speaker 3: We all know broadcasts start on the hour and at
Speaker 3: the worst on a half hour. Not twenty five minutes happen.
Speaker 3: And we found out fifteen minutes before this KBO game,
Speaker 3: of course, in which we know zero players, and they
Speaker 3: said rain your games rained out, We're now going to
Speaker 3: go do the sk wyns and the KT whiz. And
Speaker 3: literally that's telling us you're now going to have a
Speaker 3: blind exam. I went into the other room in my
Speaker 3: house to print out rosters because otherwise there he goes or,
Speaker 3: as Harold Reynolds famously said on a set of Baseball Tonight.
Speaker 5: My man Miel.
Speaker 3: Well, my man. So I go to print off rosters
Speaker 3: and it's five twenty four, five twenty five, and I'm
Speaker 3: slowly walking back on to my little studio and I
Speaker 3: hear EDWARDO. Perez say, welcome to the Kado. Well, there
Speaker 3: you have the show lent on. I said, sorry, I
Speaker 3: was printing out rosters. And maybe you guys are good
Speaker 3: at that speaking to this. Having done something for thirty
Speaker 3: years and Tim a little bit longer, you do develop
Speaker 3: a bit of a leash where they allow something like that.
Speaker 3: I just I don't panic about that. It doesn't happen
Speaker 3: very often, but it did happen that morning, and I'm
Speaker 3: still employed, right.
Speaker 5: And that one is Y's greatest strength is he never panicked.
Speaker 3: Sam.
Speaker 7: We did a Baseball Tonight my first year there, nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety eight, and the show wasn't even supposed.
Speaker 10: To happen, and then jud Birch walked in and said, okay,
Speaker 10: we're doing forty five minutes right now.
Speaker 5: No rundown, no shot sheets, nothing, we get it.
Speaker 1: He gets in our ear the producer and says, boys,
Speaker 1: good luck, you're gonna need it.
Speaker 10: And your father never panicked, he steered the ship, Harold,
Speaker 10: and I just followed him.
Speaker 5: Perfect point guard. That is the key for all young broadcasters.
Speaker 1: Never panicked, Sam, Jeff, you agree.
Speaker 2: When we started doing morning radio, this is as true
Speaker 2: as can be.
Speaker 3: You know, I was.
Speaker 2: I'm the morning show host, right, I'm the one bringing
Speaker 2: people in. I talk out of the song and say
Speaker 2: do all that stuff. And my dad always talked about
Speaker 2: the stress of being a great point guard.
Speaker 5: As a host.
Speaker 2: And always use Sam, your dad as the example as
Speaker 2: the best point guard in the game of television because
Speaker 2: he knows how to cue people up. Not in the
Speaker 2: obvious way, right, dam didn't you have a story like that?
Speaker 2: But doing it when you've been doing it as long
Speaker 2: as these gentlemen have together, of course it gets easier
Speaker 2: because you just know where he's gonna go with this.
Speaker 2: If you bring up a ground rule double. You know,
Speaker 2: for Tim kirkshon over, there is going to blow a
Speaker 2: casket a casket that he's gonna have to say it's.
Speaker 1: An automack double.
Speaker 5: And Carl knows that.
Speaker 2: But the point is being a point guard, Carl, is
Speaker 2: something that you My dad uses you as example, has
Speaker 2: taught me how to be a better teammate and be
Speaker 2: a good point guard to use the people around us.
Speaker 5: And Sam, I mean, I'm sure you learned that from
Speaker 5: your dad as well.
Speaker 8: That was one of the things that he told me
Speaker 8: going into this thing, was, you know, he has always said,
Speaker 8: I want to be remembered as a broadcaster, not really
Speaker 8: always for.
Speaker 6: What I did, but for the fact that I've made.
Speaker 8: The people on the show better, Like you know, being
Speaker 8: that point guard and facilitating that's always the skill of
Speaker 8: his and that's something that I hear again from people
Speaker 8: at ESPN who worked on Baseball Tonight or who worked
Speaker 8: in the Baseball space. They always said the most difficult
Speaker 8: show at ESPN was the Baseball Tonight when they were
Speaker 8: doing two days, because you just didn't always know.
Speaker 6: What was happening.
Speaker 8: And when you have somebody that panics in those moments,
Speaker 8: not always the best teammate, right, So you got to
Speaker 8: have somebody that can be a little bit calm and
Speaker 8: be a little bit poised. I'll tell you this story
Speaker 8: really quick. I remember that it was I was probably
Speaker 8: in middle school and my dad was playing in a
Speaker 8: charity golf tournament in Hartford. I think it was the
Speaker 8: PGA kind of event. That they have here at Hartford,
Speaker 8: and I was going to caddy and again just speaking
Speaker 8: to the showing up right on time. I know my
Speaker 8: dad remembers this.
Speaker 6: We pulled up in the circle and he was playing
Speaker 6: in it. I was caddying his tea. Time was about
Speaker 6: like at noon.
Speaker 8: Showed up at eleven fifty nine and I grabbed a
Speaker 8: bag out of the trunk. We're racing to the tea box.
Speaker 8: He goes up there, gives a wave to everybody on
Speaker 8: the first tee, and he pipes a nice draw down
Speaker 8: the first fairway about three hundred yards and he set
Speaker 8: up perfectly, and I'm like, that's the coolest thing I've
Speaker 8: ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do remember that, and I will say
Speaker 3: again those that circumstance was beyond our control because that
Speaker 3: Travelers Championship was the day after the College World Series
Speaker 3: had ended. I had flown in, so again the airlines,
Speaker 3: which unfortunately screwed things up more than they have success,
Speaker 3: they screwed that up. I was delayed, so it was
Speaker 3: literally a wire shot, and thankfully we made it. That
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with this concept that you guys
Speaker 3: have been talking about about kind of getting there a
Speaker 3: few minutes in advance, but I do that intentionally. There
Speaker 3: was no intent on that one was the point being
Speaker 3: was it was cool, like you just that part's great.
Speaker 4: But see, you know what I know about Jeffrey and Sam,
Speaker 4: tim that they have that they have listened to thankfully,
Speaker 4: is in our field.
Speaker 3: And even as a parent, I think it's important. You know,
Speaker 3: as a dad, it's hard to be a one trick pony.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be a one trick pony. And
Speaker 3: I think that is true about your career. And you know,
Speaker 3: I know Jeffrey is incredibly versatile and he's done some
Speaker 3: of the play by play stuff. We've seen him in Williamsport,
Speaker 3: which was amazing. You know, Sam went about this differently
Speaker 3: than I did. I started in a small market and
Speaker 3: was a news and sports anchor in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in Binghamton,
Speaker 3: New York, and then went to ESPN and did those
Speaker 3: overnight sports centers and over thirty years transitioned into play
Speaker 3: by play. Sam began his whole thing doing play by
Speaker 3: play double A Baseball in Richmond, Virginia, and then continue
Speaker 3: the play by play stuff at ESPN, and I continuously
Speaker 3: implored him try to get into the studio. Do those
Speaker 3: things be as versatile as you can. Part of being
Speaker 3: the great point guard comes from the experience of being
Speaker 3: a host a co host on a show in which
Speaker 3: two people are doing Sports center. You're interviewing different people
Speaker 3: throughout the show. That's why I think the transition to
Speaker 3: play by play is a lot easier. And Baby, Sam
Speaker 3: and Jeff, when you went from studio person or play
Speaker 3: by play person into studio that you had that tool
Speaker 3: in your tool box already, and it makes you better
Speaker 3: at what you're doing now.
Speaker 2: Sam and Carl, I have to ask because what you
Speaker 2: two do is as Carl mentioned, right, Sam, you're doing
Speaker 2: play by play. Carl, you're doing play by play and
Speaker 2: show hosting. What is that dynamic like? Because I don't
Speaker 2: my dad's not calling me and saying, hey, you got
Speaker 2: it wrong. Luke colnbs is the second best country artist
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty for right. So, even though we do
Speaker 2: tell stories and I interview people for a living and
Speaker 2: doing this podcast, I've learned so much from my dad
Speaker 2: about how to interview, how to have a good interview
Speaker 2: when we prep together. It's I've learned so much And
Speaker 2: if I get anything from this podcast, besides a great
Speaker 2: time I've been able to spend with my dad, it's
Speaker 2: going to be seeing how he prepares for things.
Speaker 5: But Sam, are.
Speaker 2: You asking your dad for air checks?
Speaker 5: Like, hey, can you listen to this?
Speaker 2: Or Carl, are you listening in and sending notes? Or
Speaker 2: is it more of a you know, hey, don't ask,
Speaker 2: don't tell it's work. Let's keep working hard and getting better.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 8: Like I will send him some of my shows and
Speaker 8: ask him for feedback. But he's he's always been like
Speaker 8: a I'm not going to intrude on your space. He
Speaker 8: wanted me to learn, you know, on my own. It
Speaker 8: doesn't really do me a service, I don't think by
Speaker 8: just trying to dictate some of what we do and
Speaker 8: how we do it.
Speaker 6: I've always asked for.
Speaker 8: Advice help whenever I thought like I could use it,
Speaker 8: and he's always been very gracious with you know, his
Speaker 8: time and been watching it and giving me advice as well.
Speaker 8: But you know, along with the the advice of actually
Speaker 8: like the job portion of it, sometimes I just need
Speaker 8: the fatherly advice on it, which is like you're doing great, man,
Speaker 8: Like just just take it easy, enjoy the ride.
Speaker 6: You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 8: This is supposed to be fun like that is That
Speaker 8: is some of the best advice I think I can get.
Speaker 8: The other stuff, like, you know, we'll learn like anybody
Speaker 8: on a normal on any any job, right, you learn.
Speaker 6: As you go.
Speaker 8: But sometimes you just need that that that comforting hand
Speaker 8: behind you to say, like you're doing all right, It's okay,
Speaker 8: right well.
Speaker 1: And preparation, as we've talked about, is so important because
Speaker 1: I live in fear of being unprepared for question being
Speaker 1: asked or something that I don't know.
Speaker 5: And I think I can tell the story ravy our.
Speaker 1: Dear friend Kyle Peterson, who's you know, the best college
Speaker 1: baseball analyst, one of our best friends, absolutely tremendous.
Speaker 5: He tells the story that he was a dugout reporter.
Speaker 10: At early on and some obscure guy had just come
Speaker 10: out of the game and they asked Kyle to interview
Speaker 10: the guy.
Speaker 5: But he starts the interview and he doesn't know who
Speaker 5: the guy is and he has to.
Speaker 10: Ask, who are you? I mean, those are the things
Speaker 10: that I absolutely live in fear of. You guys must
Speaker 10: have similar circumstances where you.
Speaker 1: Go, boy, I better know what I'm doing here, Otherwise
Speaker 1: I could make a complete fool of myself.
Speaker 8: I'll say this tim really quick. We have a game,
Speaker 8: like I said, did a regional final last night. There
Speaker 8: was a point in which after the game, I started
Speaker 8: hearing the producer count down in my ear two in
Speaker 8: a postgame interview.
Speaker 6: I had no idea who we were interviewing at the time.
Speaker 8: I hear ten, we got an interviews coming on ten,
Speaker 8: and I'm hitting the talkback button saying who do we got?
Speaker 6: Who do we got?
Speaker 8: And we we finally figured it was a great interview.
Speaker 8: But yes, to your point, if you if you stay ready,
Speaker 8: you don't have to get ready to absolutely and.
Speaker 5: Raby how many times?
Speaker 11: And you and I stand underneath the stands at Yankee
Speaker 11: Stadium or Fenway Park, we can't even see the final
Speaker 11: play of the game because we're tracked in a runway somewhere.
Speaker 5: Then we have to run out on the field and
Speaker 5: interview people. Again.
Speaker 1: That's why you got to be quick on your feet
Speaker 1: in this business, otherwise you're not gonna make it.
Speaker 3: You know, faking on your feet or seat, depending on
Speaker 3: whether you're standing or sitting, is important. The idea of
Speaker 3: not knowing a person you're interviewing or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, having done baseballs and I for twenty odd
Speaker 3: years there was and sports center, soil, you learn little
Speaker 3: secrets and tricks of the trade. I mean to suggest
Speaker 3: that off the fifteen games a night, when all of
Speaker 3: a sudden they come in with a marin or highlight
Speaker 3: and some backup catchers in there, you learn. You know,
Speaker 3: if you kind of lay out here, the play by
Speaker 3: play voice in the background that's actually on the original
Speaker 3: highlight is likely going to mention the guy's name, so
Speaker 3: you hear the name and then you sound a lot
Speaker 3: more informed. And I'm sorry, I don't know. I did
Speaker 3: not know every single major league player during the years
Speaker 3: we were doing Baseball Tonight. Similarly hockey highlights with a
Speaker 3: lot of the foreign players. I know, sports and rankers
Speaker 3: have learned to just let the highlight kind of play
Speaker 3: a little bit without saying something when you don't know
Speaker 3: if it's for Shanky or for Yankee that's making the play.
Speaker 3: The play by play guy, you'll hear it on that
Speaker 3: highlight and then you can kind of pick up on it.
Speaker 3: So there's little tricks in the trade, you know that
Speaker 3: you can learn just two quick stories about the teaching
Speaker 3: part of it, my philosophy, you know, and look, we
Speaker 3: have dads too, or had dads too. The field I
Speaker 3: got into was an absolute foreign language to my bomb
Speaker 3: and dad. This whole thing was something they couldn't ever
Speaker 3: offer advice on because they didn't even understand it. And
Speaker 3: after not getting a job in Binghamton when I was
Speaker 3: the week end sports anchor and not getting the weekday
Speaker 3: job when a good friend of Tim andized Bill Pedo
Speaker 3: he left as the week day guy, I was supposed
Speaker 3: to take his job and didn't get it. So I
Speaker 3: thought that's the end of his career. And my dad said,
Speaker 3: probably want to come home. Now, we'll start you know,
Speaker 3: let's start over, Let's get a real job. I'm supporting,
Speaker 3: come on back. So there wasn't a lot of advice
Speaker 3: that way, but there was plenty of advice on the
Speaker 3: other things. To what Sam is talking about being a
Speaker 3: good teammate, you know, saying yes to generally any assignment
Speaker 3: you're being asked to do. The easier you make your
Speaker 3: boss's life, the more opportunities you're likely to have. Because
Speaker 3: in our field there are many who are pain in
Speaker 3: the ass to the boss, they make it harder on them,
Speaker 3: and just be the guy or the woman that they
Speaker 3: it gets along with everybody. Learn the tricks of the
Speaker 3: trade so you can appreciate, you know, what an audio
Speaker 3: person is doing, what a cameraman is going through, how
Speaker 3: our producer is thinking. As opposed to you probably should
Speaker 3: have said this here, layout, here, peaks and valleys with
Speaker 3: the voice. But those things I learned by observing the
Speaker 3: people in the field, not necessarily by asking a parent
Speaker 3: or a father who never was in it. You guys
Speaker 3: have parents that are in it. I just don't ever
Speaker 3: look at it like that's that's my you know, my
Speaker 3: primary responsibility. You'll you'll figure it out. And you're you,
Speaker 3: I mean, most importantly, don't be me, you know, be you.
Speaker 3: We've been around. Think about the legends of broadcasting. Who
Speaker 3: are our peers that have gone on to such great
Speaker 3: things and Chris Berman and Mike Turco and Chris Fowler
Speaker 3: and Rhys Davis and John Saunders and Robert Roberts. There
Speaker 3: are just little bits and pieces that you observed that
Speaker 3: they didn't come and tell me. And you pick up things.
Speaker 3: But you've got to be yourself. And I always felt
Speaker 3: too much interference means you're going to be more like
Speaker 3: new or don't Stewart stut there's only one that ever lived.
Speaker 3: Don't try that. And there was a generation of people
Speaker 3: who did try the mimicking thing, and that's just not me.
Speaker 2: Now, Carl, I have a question a little bit about
Speaker 2: you know, day of when you're doing a big, big
Speaker 2: game of Sunday night baseball, a Monday night baseball game,
Speaker 2: and when my dad was in the booth with you guys,
Speaker 2: it always seemed like there was a running bit or
Speaker 2: a gag or something that you were able to get
Speaker 2: the audience in on. And I recall one of my favorites,
Speaker 2: and I hope I don't steal your favorite story, which
Speaker 2: is when you guys were at Fenway Park and my
Speaker 2: dad was wearing a winter coat in the booth, mind.
Speaker 5: You, and gloves.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he had lost.
Speaker 2: One of his gloves and he was complaining, I can't
Speaker 2: find my glove. Can't find my glove. And at every
Speaker 2: bump shot, you know, when you come back from a
Speaker 2: commercial or you're about to go to a commercial, you
Speaker 2: had the whole camera crew in on it putting his
Speaker 2: glove and different on the monster.
Speaker 3: It's on a scene and Dad never noticed it played
Speaker 3: the playback. I mean, just genius.
Speaker 2: I just love I had to because I know you
Speaker 2: had to have been behind that front, right.
Speaker 3: You know it's I was certainly a part of it.
Speaker 3: I mean there was We were always trying to conspire
Speaker 3: ways and unfortunately your dad, who I know is in
Speaker 3: the room and can hear this. He is one of
Speaker 3: the perfect targets for things like because of the way
Speaker 3: he behaves and look with you know, there's a great
Speaker 3: story about getting to a Yankee game when it's snowing
Speaker 3: seven hours early, sitting in a parking garage that it
Speaker 3: wasn't even open. Somehow he got the car in there.
Speaker 3: The game gets canceled, he's got to go home. But
Speaker 3: he created so many of those opportunities. You know, we
Speaker 3: still arted this before we came on to do the
Speaker 3: podcast The Heavy Side the Knee Platt. There are so
Speaker 3: many mannerisms that everybody, everybody, I mean Jeff and Sam.
Speaker 3: You walk into a Baseball Tonight green room and as
Speaker 3: soon as he walks in, oh and then everybody as
Speaker 3: everybody's doing the Tim kirkshinak. So yeah, the glove thing
Speaker 3: was great because and Wardo was in on everybody was
Speaker 3: in on it, and there was this glove. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like the TV over Sam's you know, left shoulder there.
Speaker 3: Everybody can see it except the gloves. The glove there,
Speaker 3: it's in the popcorn. It's everywhere, right, right, kid? It
Speaker 3: was wonderful, right.
Speaker 12: The message here, though, The chemistry between the people on
Speaker 12: air is the most important thing, whether you're in a
Speaker 12: booth or in the studio. Rammy and I have great chemistry,
Speaker 12: and I easily irritate him and easily annoy him by
Speaker 12: bringing back the same old lines and the same old
Speaker 12: jokes because he's already heard him before, and he he rolls.
Speaker 1: His eyes better than any one I've ever seen. Whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, some stupid joke that I.
Speaker 5: Tell, he even knows it's coming.
Speaker 10: Now on every show we do, I look at rab
Speaker 10: and go. Did I ever tell you I went to
Speaker 10: Walter Johnson High School? And he just wants to leave
Speaker 10: the booth. But the irritable rabb is an even better RAVI.
Speaker 10: So I'm a big believer. Chemistry in the booth is
Speaker 10: absolutely critical. You young guys recognize that, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 6: Tim.
Speaker 8: I'm curious when was the first moment that you realize, yeah,
Speaker 8: I think I can have some chemistry with this guy.
Speaker 5: No, it was right.
Speaker 1: Away with Ravi because again I saw very early on
Speaker 1: as the show host, just like we talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: his job was to make me feel comfortable there because
Speaker 1: he knew if I was uncomfortable, I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: any good and if he panicked and and he was uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: I would have no chance. So the chemistry begin very
Speaker 1: quickly between the two.
Speaker 10: As far as throwing barbs at each other, that took
Speaker 10: a few.
Speaker 1: Years and then and now it's like an all out
Speaker 1: war every time we go on the air, and it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious until these people and again, you guys have
Speaker 3: dealt with social media your entire life. What is what
Speaker 3: always I find so amazing is while we would do
Speaker 3: a broadcast and Tim is about to start a story
Speaker 3: and I'll just finish it before he goes into did
Speaker 3: I ever tell you yes, I know, yes, I know
Speaker 3: you wrote for that and all of those I get it.
Speaker 3: People would would unfortunately sit there and say, please leave
Speaker 3: Tim alone, like we make fun of Tim, And at
Speaker 3: that point I just said, you know that in a
Speaker 3: sense you're not getting it. And like you said, Jeff,
Speaker 3: the goal is to invite people in like you, We're
Speaker 3: trying to make you part of this if you were,
Speaker 3: and I think we got to a point, or I
Speaker 3: certainly got to a point where it felt like you
Speaker 3: had a certain real core group of people that were
Speaker 3: watching who understood. It's like watching Seinfeld whatever. You get it,
Speaker 3: like you know, I get it. And the first time
Speaker 3: somebody watches that show, they may look at it and
Speaker 3: be like, I don't understand any of it, but the
Speaker 3: other people in the room who've watched it for so long,
Speaker 3: they understand it. And the other point about the comfort
Speaker 3: and the chemistry and the point guard. Anybody that ever
Speaker 3: does play by play should realize personally that I believe
Speaker 3: we are only as good as the analysts, because those
Speaker 3: are the ones with the expertise. I don't really think,
Speaker 3: with the exception of a very few people, that people
Speaker 3: tune in to hear who's doing the play by play.
Speaker 3: You know, game five, game six, game seven, we're all
Speaker 3: gonna watch because it's game five, six or seven, not
Speaker 3: because play by play person X Y and Z are
Speaker 3: doing it. I always look at the play by play
Speaker 3: and booth as the condiment to the main course. If
Speaker 3: it's a burger where the ketchup and the salt and
Speaker 3: the mustard and the pickle, that's what we are. We
Speaker 3: can make it taste a little bit better, but you're
Speaker 3: still gonna eat. You still want to watch that. And
Speaker 3: the only way that you entice people to watch it
Speaker 3: is to make sure that the Tims and the Eduardos
Speaker 3: and the Cones and the bus and the Heralds are comfortable.
Speaker 3: I mean, Buck show author is like one of the
Speaker 3: most wonderful human beings ever. But it was very evident
Speaker 3: to us when he first started there wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 3: comfortable on TV. And if you could figure out a
Speaker 3: way to get Buck to be loose and to share
Speaker 3: what he does in the room with us on TV,
Speaker 3: we all win, and the viewer wins. And that to
Speaker 3: me is the key. If you can get those guys
Speaker 3: to be as comfortable as possible and as good as possible.
Speaker 3: And to your point, Chef, that doesn't me saying Tim,
Speaker 3: do you remember when Barry Bonds came? Like of course,
Speaker 3: Jim remembers that you've gotta take them down a road
Speaker 3: that they're not exactly sure. And I know the analyst
Speaker 3: on our show had said, you never know what the
Speaker 3: hell he's gonna ask you, And I think that's important.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got to keep the analysts on edge.
Speaker 3: I don't want you to sit there and think like
Speaker 3: this is this is gonna be rote and routine and easy,
Speaker 3: and you know it. I'm not. I'm never gonna embarrass
Speaker 3: anybody ever. But I know I listened to what they
Speaker 3: say in the green room and other things later on,
Speaker 3: that's gonna come up in the show, like that's coming up,
Speaker 3: and it may have nothing more often than nothing to
Speaker 3: do with baseball. But if Bobby Valentine talks about a
Speaker 3: bike accident and that he had or left a wallet
Speaker 3: where Tim said something, we will bring that up. That
Speaker 3: becomes the inside joke that everybody at home is gonna
Speaker 3: be privy to that happened.
Speaker 1: Long right, long story, I'll make it quick. And I
Speaker 1: got a speeding ticket while doing a radio show on
Speaker 1: my way to Brace the Ones with my daughter and
Speaker 1: her best friend in the backseat.
Speaker 5: Ravi the Mischievous Ravi the found.
Speaker 10: The audio of me talking to a policewoman one time
Speaker 10: was doing a radio show and ran it. Ambushed me
Speaker 10: on the show that night. It was one of the
Speaker 10: stupidest things I've ever seen. It was totally hilarious.
Speaker 1: But it's because he recognized that's funny, and that's part
Speaker 1: of the battle.
Speaker 5: When you're a play by play guy or any on
Speaker 5: air guy. What is going to work.
Speaker 3: Right and quickly? Jeff, look the wedding dancing video of times.
Speaker 3: The most maybe the most important lesson in all of
Speaker 3: this is, hey, be comfortable with who you are and
Speaker 3: don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. My god, Tim
Speaker 3: has made a career not only out of laughing at
Speaker 3: himself but because of it causing everyone else to have
Speaker 3: a good time and laugh too.
Speaker 2: You kind of gained that mischievous in all in good
Speaker 2: heart and all of it. But do you have that
Speaker 2: kind of It's very creative to come up with these
Speaker 2: kind of things. Let me find this radio clip, well,
Speaker 2: let me get this dancing clip because Tim said he
Speaker 2: was going to a wedding. Do you find that you
Speaker 2: had that creative streak?
Speaker 8: I find that I like, I want to have it,
Speaker 8: but I don't feel like I'm at the point yet
Speaker 8: where I think I deserve to be having that amount
Speaker 8: of leeway, Like I feel like I need to be
Speaker 8: a little bit more straight laced right now. Maybe once
Speaker 8: we establish ourselves a little bit more, we could we
Speaker 8: could get a little bit more creative. But the one
Speaker 8: thing that I do agree with that my dad said
Speaker 8: was like, you have to be able to laugh at
Speaker 8: yourself when you when you mess up, or when you
Speaker 8: make a mistake.
Speaker 6: Or you know, just in general.
Speaker 8: Like this again, I go back to just saying this
Speaker 8: is supposed to be fun. If we're not having fun
Speaker 8: on the air, I guarantee you the people at home aren't.
Speaker 6: Having fun either. So yeah, that that is another piece of.
Speaker 8: Advice that that I have just carried along with me
Speaker 8: and the I think the mantra on Baseball tonight for
Speaker 8: a long time when I would always go in was
Speaker 8: just get comfortable being uncomfortable like that was something they
Speaker 8: would always say, and I chopped.
Speaker 6: That with me too.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we can keep you guys all day, but
Speaker 1: Sam has to go to the airport. One question, Sam,
Speaker 1: do you have a printed boarding pass in your pocket
Speaker 1: at the moment, Because I have never left a hotel
Speaker 1: room or home without a printed boarding pass in my pocket.
Speaker 5: Or you like your dad, who doesn't care.
Speaker 3: He just shows up and walks through.
Speaker 6: I have not checked into my flight yet. How about that.
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. That's just you leave in
Speaker 3: ninety minutes.
Speaker 6: I'll try not to get a speeding ticket on the
Speaker 6: wind of the airport.
Speaker 5: Right while you're doing a radio show.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, well raight.
Speaker 2: Carl, thank you so much for joining the podcast seriously,
Speaker 2: And Sam, I know you'll join me in saying a
Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day to these two amazing broadcast dads. Thank
Speaker 2: you for being our best friends, our biggest supporters. We
Speaker 2: would not have what we have in our lives without you.
Speaker 2: We both sound a lot like our dad. Sam, You're
Speaker 2: a lot luckier than I am in that case because
Speaker 2: your dad's got him velvet smooth boys, and I've got
Speaker 2: this uberty voice that I'm dealing with. But thank you
Speaker 2: Sam and Carl. Happy Father's Day. Carl and Dad, thank
Speaker 2: you guys so much for joining us.
Speaker 5: Well, it's great, great, Thanks everyone, you guys agreed.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Thank you Sam, Thank you Carl for joining us for
Speaker 2: our Father's Day episode. And Dad, you mentioned it at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: It's very special.
Speaker 2: I'm a first time dad. This is my very first
Speaker 2: Father's Day. We got a ten month old baby girl.
Speaker 2: She is just the light of my life. She's incredible.
Speaker 2: My wife just had her first Mother's Day naturally, and
Speaker 2: I mean I pulled out all the stops. I got
Speaker 2: her these rings that have the name of our new
Speaker 2: puppy Ranger, and then McKinley with her birth stone, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, a little stackable rings, and got her like
Speaker 2: this really cute bag that she can carry McKinley in
Speaker 2: and everything. And she just recently asked me, well, what
Speaker 2: do you want for your first Father's Day? And without hesitation,
Speaker 2: I said, a new vacuum for the pool And she said,
Speaker 2: are you serious? And I said, yeah, absolutely, make my
Speaker 2: life a lot easier.
Speaker 1: And I remember I used to make fun of you
Speaker 1: for asking for very practical gifts growing.
Speaker 2: Up, thinking, Dad, don't you want something cool, some fancy machine.
Speaker 1: You go, no, I just need some new socks and
Speaker 1: maybe a new shovel.
Speaker 2: That'd be nice, Right, that's a dad gift, and I'm
Speaker 2: okay with it.
Speaker 1: Well, you remember one Father's Day recently for Father's Day,
Speaker 1: I got a broom to help clean the house. You
Speaker 1: got me an ear trimmer so I could trim my ears,
Speaker 1: and you got me a trimmer so I could shave
Speaker 1: my back. Now that's a father's day that you don't
Speaker 1: forget something to clean the floors, shave your ears, and
Speaker 1: to shave your back. That's an Armedian father. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and to all the dads out there, a
Speaker 2: happy Father's Stay to you. Thank you for making us
Speaker 2: a part of your Father's Stay week, and as always,
Speaker 2: thank you for being a part of our family.