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Speaker 2: And welcome to our Father's Day edition of the show.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined by Karl Ravich and his

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Speaker 2: big baseball broadcasters. And Carl also dips right into college

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Speaker 1: And it's a special episode for us because well we're

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Speaker 1: a father son duo as well, right, And this is

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Speaker 1: your first Father's Day as a father. McKinley Kirchen was

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Speaker 1: born on August tenth of twenty twenty three. So what's

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Speaker 1: With Father's Day coming up?

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Speaker 2: It's probably the coolest feeling because I always knew I

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Speaker 2: my dad as an example as a great father. But

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Speaker 2: you know, people always tell you, oh, you don't know

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Speaker 2: there's no comparison of the first time I got to

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Speaker 2: happy for other reasons because while my wife was in labor,

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Speaker 1: No hitter and did so successfully. So there's two reasons

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Speaker 1: to be happy, right. So we thought McKinley was going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I turned thirty at the hospital and then my

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Speaker 1: So McKinley has been how many major league games and

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Speaker 2: So she how she's three major league games, including the

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Speaker 1: It was really cool.

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of ballparks do this, but

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Speaker 2: Every team does it and we still have it to.

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Speaker 1: This day, and it was really I got to put

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Speaker 1: Jeff for the first time.

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Speaker 2: And happy fathers, say to you, Dad, And we're gonna

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Speaker 2: But I first have to ask you about the London series,

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Speaker 1: How jetlaged are you? I'm very tired, but I had

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Speaker 1: such a great time in London. That's the takeaway from

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Speaker 1: London did. There wasn't one hiccup through the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Our game changer is we're trying to present somebody who

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Speaker 1: Jeffs And Father's Day we have we have a shout

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Speaker 1: who lives in Saint Louis, and she drives around. Her

430
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Speaker 1: car is like a Volkswagen bug and it looks like

431
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Speaker 1: a baseball. In other words, there are seams running on

432
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: the and since it's kind of circular, it looks just

433
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: like a baseball driving through the streets. And Tony Gwynn,

434
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Speaker 1: you know, got hit number three thousand in Montreal, and

435
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Speaker 1: he whispered to me once, he said, I kind of

436
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Speaker 1: wish I hadn't gotten three thousand to Montreal because there

437
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 1: there wasn't anyone at the game. Our next game on

438
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Speaker 1: the road was in Saint Louis, and he said, I

439
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: always kind of wish I'd gotten three thousand in Saint

440
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Speaker 1: Louis because those people would have really appreciated. Oh, that's

441
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Speaker 1: really special. Hey, we've got a Kirchen quandary.

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Speaker 2: This is where we ask you a question to respond

443
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: either on our socials at Great Game or What, or

444
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Speaker 2: on our website Great Game or.

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Speaker 1: What dot Com.

446
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: With the NBA Finals happening right now, Celtics lead two

447
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 2: to zero. Game three will be on Wednesday night against

448
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. Our favorite Kirkshin quandary would be the

449
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: current Boston Celtics team against the Kirkshin family. Now, Dad

450
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: set the stage. How many point lead do we have?

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Speaker 1: Now? Granted this is a hypothetically right, we have a

452
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Speaker 1: thirty point lead with two minutes to go. The Celtics

453
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: have the ball inbounding under their own basket. The question is,

454
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Speaker 1: can we hold a thirty point lead in two minutes

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Speaker 1: against the Celtics, And keep.

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Speaker 2: In mind the lineup for the Kirkchins is Tim and

457
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Speaker 2: Jeff Kirkchhin, along with Mark, my sister's husband, who was

458
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: a good high school player, really good high school player,

459
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Speaker 2: Kelly who arguably maybe was the best when it came

460
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Speaker 2: to our family. Sorry, Dad, at least given Kelly Kirchen

461
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: made fifty four out of fifty six free throws her

462
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: senior year, I would say she was quite a legend

463
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Speaker 2: in her high school days. And then are we putting

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Speaker 2: my wife, Emily Emily on the team. Okay, so as

465
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Speaker 2: a cheerleader, not about player. But it doesn't even matter

466
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: either way, right.

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Speaker 1: So I say that we lose. I say that the

468
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: Celtics score every seven and a half seconds, score thirty

469
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Speaker 1: five thirty four points, and beat us by four because

470
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Speaker 1: obviously we're not gonna score because the biggest problem, Jeff

471
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: is going to be getting the ball in bounds. How

472
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: are we gonna get it in bounds? I don't think

473
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Speaker 1: we are. Or if Mark just throws it as high

474
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: as he can, they're just gonna intercept it. Throw it

475
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: to Jason Tatum. He's gonna dunk it, and then the

476
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: clock is gonna stop in the last two minutes of

477
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: an NBA game. Then we're gonna have the same problem

478
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: inbounding the ball. We're not gonna score. They're gonna score

479
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: every second seven seconds. They're gonna score thirty four points

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Speaker 1: and beat us by four. You agree or not.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna score more than that. I think

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Speaker 2: they're gonna score every four. So with that being said,

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Speaker 2: kirkschhan Quandri, if you think we could.

485
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Speaker 1: Win this, let us know.

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Speaker 2: But how many points do we have to be up

487
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Speaker 2: by with only two minutes to go for us to

488
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Speaker 2: actually pull off the wing? Is it thirty, forty five,

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Speaker 2: fifty sixty? No, No, we don't need sixty. We would

490
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Speaker 2: if we had a forty point lead, we would win

491
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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: We would still lose. No, we wouldn't. I think it

493
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Speaker 1: needs to be it's mathematically impossible.

494
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Speaker 2: I think Father's Day, this is our Father's Day. Addition,

495
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: and I want to just thank Bill Biggie Field for

496
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Speaker 2: submitting a question at Great Game or what dot Com Now. Dad,

497
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: you were the greatest dad when I was a kid

498
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Speaker 2: growing up. You continue to be the best dad in

499
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Speaker 2: the world. But he wrote a question that was very

500
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: interesting and a question I grew up getting all the time,

501
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: which was what was it like growing up with a

502
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: dad in baseball media? And he even added, you guys

503
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: seem like you have the best relationship. How did you

504
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: get that when dad was traveling all the time growing up,

505
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: and I traveled.

506
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Speaker 1: A lot, there's no doubt. But again, I didn't travel

507
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Speaker 1: hardly at all during the off season, and I picked

508
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Speaker 1: and chose when I would go on the road other

509
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: than October and spring training. So you guys came with

510
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: me to spring training a bunch of times. You've been

511
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Speaker 1: to the World Series with me, You've been to the

512
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Speaker 1: All Star Game with me. And I must say, in

513
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: my defense, I was the ultimate master at getting home

514
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, staying for as long as I could,

515
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Speaker 1: and then leaving. Plus I was at the house all

516
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Speaker 1: the time. You know. I didn't go into the office

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: every day. The house was my office. So when I

518
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: was home, I was really home. I was making you

519
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: guys lunches every day, picking you up from school. So

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Speaker 1: that's my excuse.

521
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Speaker 2: Two of my favorite things memories of my dad when

522
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: I was growing up was Dad always would pick us

523
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Speaker 2: up at the bus stop when he was in town,

524
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Speaker 2: which was a lot of the time, but every once

525
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Speaker 2: in a while he would pick us up while riding

526
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Speaker 2: the ride on mower right, go up the street, pick

527
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Speaker 2: us up on the ride on mower and drive back.

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Speaker 1: Now, my dad was the king of the field trip.

529
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was chaperone on almost every field trip. Famously milked

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Speaker 2: a cow on one of my sister's field.

532
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Speaker 1: Trips, but ferguson farm right.

533
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Speaker 2: One of my favorite was when we were on one

534
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Speaker 2: of those big coach buses and I can't even remember

535
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: where we were going, but the Pory Park.

536
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Speaker 1: Thank you. We play on the TVs.

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Speaker 2: The bus driver played October Sky and there's my poor

538
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: old dad in the third row crying, and all the

539
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: kids on the bus in the back with me are saying, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Is that your dad crying watching this movie? Look, I

541
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: can't help it. So I famously asked you and Kelly.

542
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: You were like five, Kelly was like seven. After we

543
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: watched that movie together, I said, so, Jeff, what was

544
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: that movie about? And you said it was about a rocket.

545
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: That's what the movie was about. So I looked at Kelly,

546
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: and I said, Kelly, what was that movie about? Seven

547
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: year old? Kelly Kirchen said, Dad, that was a movie

548
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Speaker 1: about a father and a son. And that's exactly what

549
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: that movie was about, which is why poor Pop Pop

550
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: was crying in the bus with a bunch with a

551
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Speaker 1: bunch of third graders around me. All right, let's go.

552
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of Pop, Pup, I have to say something about

553
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: my dad. My dad, Pop was the greatest father ever,

554
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: greatest husband ever, greatest grandfather ever. And he gave he

555
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: gave a great feel of baseball to you know, Andy,

556
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Matt and Tim Kirchen. He not only taught us how

557
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: to play, but he taught us how to understand what

558
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: the game was all about. And as you know, Pop

559
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: was a really funny little guy too, and he was

560
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: a really good player in his day. And I can't

561
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Speaker 1: tell you how many times, Jeff, we would be in

562
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the in the rec room watching the game after our

563
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: games are over and he would throw a pillow down

564
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the of the reck room and

565
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: show us how to make the double play, like here's

566
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Speaker 1: where you put your feet, got to keep so And

567
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: he always would say when you throw, you got to

568
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: throw from down here sidearm in order to get that

569
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: runner to slide. And he would always throw the ball

570
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: into the couch there. Well, one time he threw it

571
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a little bit too high and it missed the couch

572
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and went through the French store windows and broke the

573
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: fred store windows, which was not a good thing. So

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00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: he looks at me, his youngest son, and says, Tim,

575
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: tell mom that you did it, and I'll get you

576
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: off easy. That was That was my dad. And but

577
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: the beauty, Jeff of baseball and fathers and sons is

578
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. The game is littered with fathers and sons

579
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Speaker 1: who played in the Big leagues. The Boone family is

580
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest family of baseball players in Major League

581
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Speaker 1: history because they had a grandfather Ray, a father Bob,

582
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Speaker 1: and two boys, Aaron and Brett, who all made the

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Speaker 1: All Star team. So the only family in the history

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Speaker 1: of baseball that had three generations of All Stars are

585
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Speaker 1: the Boones. And they got a picture take at Ray, Bob,

586
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Brett and Aaron on the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago.

587
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: And I'd seen it many times. It's really great. And

588
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: Aaron told me that years ago, maybe ten years ago,

589
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: he said, I saw my father cry twice in my

590
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: entire life. One was when I got the manager's job

591
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: with the Yankees, and the other was when Bob Boone

592
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: was the manager of the Reds and he hauled his

593
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: son in to tell him because Brett Aaron was on

594
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: the Reds, to tell him that he had made the

595
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: All Star team. Those are the stories that you have

596
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: to love. And of course there's the Harriston family, another

597
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: three generation family. Sam Harrison, Jerry Harston Senior, Jerry Harston Junior,

598
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: and Scott Harrison all played in the major leagues. We

599
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: love that. And again there's some great statistical anomalies. I've

600
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: already told you this more than once. Prince Fielder and

601
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: Cecil Fielder, father and son, finished their careers with exactly

602
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: three hundred and nineteen home runs, which I just find amazing.

603
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Sarah Langs, aren't that right? Craig Bigio and Cavin Biggio

604
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: and Gary Ward and Daryl Ward are the only father

605
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: son combos to hit for the cycle, which we love.

606
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: The Ripkins, of course, I covered the Ripkins in Baltimore.

607
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: So in nineteen eighty seven, Cal Senior was the manager,

608
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Billy Ripkin was the second baseman. Cal Ripken was the shortstop.

609
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: And I remember remember Edward Bennett Williams, the owner of

610
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the team, came to spring training and saw these Ripkins

611
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: like running all over the place, and he looked at

612
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: me and he goes, he says, we need to send

613
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: more Ripkins. He goes, we got three of them out there.

614
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: We need three, four or five? Can we send three

615
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: more Ripkins? And the Ripkin family was just so close knit.

616
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: And this is so classic. Cal Senior for Christmas one

617
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: year bought his sons metal protective cups to wear. Derry Gabes.

618
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: That's the Christmas present that he got for his two boys.

619
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Speaker 1: Which is If that's not a perfect baseball question answer,

620
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what is. Of course, the Griffies had

621
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: the greatest father son day of anyone in history. You know,

622
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Sr. Played on the

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Speaker 1: same team and in a game against the Angels in

624
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety they hit back to back home runs. Ken

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00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Griffy Junie's how could that possibly happen? Of course, the

626
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Bonds is Bot, Barry and Bobby are the greatest combo

627
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: platter father son in Major League history. When you add

628
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: up their homers and their stolen bases, it's just inconceivable

629
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: how productive. They were. But you know, one of my

630
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: favorite families, of course, is the Bell family. Gus Bell

631
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: played in the major leagues. Buddy Bell, who I covered

632
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: with the Rangers, played in the major leagues, of course,

633
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: was a great third baseman, and David Bell and Mike

634
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Bell also played in the major leagues. Another three generation family.

635
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: So in eighty two, the first year I really met

636
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: and got to know Buddy Bell, I got to ask

637
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: talking to him about his dad, and he said Gus

638
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: would come to games once in a while. Because he's

639
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: a major league player, he can't get to all these

640
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: games when Buddy is growing up. But he made it

641
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to a high school game once, and he drove his

642
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: car and parked it beyond the center field fence because

643
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: he didn't want to sit around all the fans who

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Speaker 1: didn't know what they were talking about. He won, wanted

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Speaker 1: to watch the game in peace. And Buddy told me,

646
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Speaker 1: if I made a good play, my dad honked the

647
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Speaker 1: horn once. If I made a great play, he honked

648
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Speaker 1: the horn twice. How great is that? A father son

649
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Speaker 1: combo like that? All right? Before we get to the Ravages,

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Speaker 1: Sam and Carl Ravagh of ESPN. We have to finish

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Speaker 1: this with the I have a team every week. She

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Speaker 1: called Team Tim. So this week we're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the father son the best father son combos at each position. Okay,

654
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: and there's a great competition here. But Yogi Berra is

655
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Speaker 1: the catcher. He had two sons who played in the

656
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Speaker 1: Major leagues, and we have Hall of Famer Pad Rodriguez,

657
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Speaker 1: whose son played in the Major leagues. First basement is

658
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Speaker 1: George Sisler, who had two sons who played in the

659
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Speaker 1: Major leagues. He's a Hall of Famer. Craig Bigio is

660
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Speaker 1: our second baseman. Cavin Biggio is his son. Buddy Bell,

661
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Speaker 1: who we mentioned, is the third baseman. With two sons

662
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Speaker 1: who played the shortstup. We don't have a Hall of Famer,

663
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Speaker 1: but we have Boba Schett, who's really good, son of

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Speaker 1: Dante Bishett and Fernando Tetist Junior, who used to be

665
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Speaker 1: a shortstop. Down outfielder is the son of Fernando Toetist Senior.

666
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Speaker 1: The outfield and how good are these guys? Ken Griffy

667
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Speaker 1: Junior and his dad Hall of famers Barry Bonds and

668
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Speaker 1: his dad not Hall of famers, but we kind of

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Speaker 1: understand why. And then we also have Tony Gwyn Vladimir

670
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Speaker 1: Guerrero Senior Hall of Famer, Tim Rains Hall of Famer,

671
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Speaker 1: all have sons who played in the Major leagues. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Tim Rains played with his son also they didn't had

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Speaker 1: a home run of the same game. And of course

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Speaker 1: our utility player is Pete Rose, whose son Pete Rose Junior,

675
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Speaker 1: played in the Major League briefly. And Ed Waalsh, one

676
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Speaker 1: of the great pitchers from the early nineteen hundreds. I

677
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Speaker 1: didn't know this, but he had a son who played

678
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Speaker 1: in the Major leagues. And our managers, so we can

679
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Speaker 1: get the Boons in on this team. Somewhere are Aaron

680
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: and Bob Boone, who our father son who also managed

681
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Speaker 1: in the Major leagues.

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Speaker 2: So fitting to have a father's on broadcasting duo talking

683
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Speaker 2: to a brother, a father son broadcasting duo on is

684
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Speaker 2: this a great game?

685
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Speaker 1: Or what? Carl and Sam Ravitz join us next on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 5: Is this a great game? Or what our Father's Day edition?

688
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: And as a father son broadcasting duo, we thought it

689
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Speaker 2: to be only fitting to bring in another father son

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Speaker 2: broadcasting duo Carl and Sam Raviits.

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Speaker 5: Are on the show. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for women those churcheons.

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Speaker 3: We've waited a long time for this to be in

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Speaker 3: the same category as other father son including the Kurchions,

695
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Speaker 3: but there's a lot of them out there, and it's

696
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Speaker 3: great to be on this podcast with you guys.

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Speaker 5: All right, well, Sam, we'll start with you.

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Speaker 7: We know how much your dad taught you when you

699
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 7: were a kid about life and broadcasting and everything else.

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Speaker 7: Give us something that he didn't teach you that you

701
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Speaker 7: probably should have known because he wasn't telling you the

702
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 7: right thing.

703
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Speaker 8: Dad always taught me to work hard, be on time.

704
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 8: One thing he did not really teach me was to

705
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Speaker 8: cook a whole lot, although I learned that from my mom.

706
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 8: He taught me how to grill. I will give him

707
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Speaker 8: credit for this. Mad Dad was always doing the laundry,

708
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 8: so I am always the laundry guy around the house.

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Speaker 6: That is something that I do that he taught me.

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Speaker 8: And cleaning, I mean, he was always a clean guy.

711
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Speaker 8: So like all of these good things, he taught me

712
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 8: all the good things the bad things. I think I

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Speaker 8: learned from all of my friends but a lot of

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Speaker 8: the good things around the house, he taught me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why Tim, you and I get along

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00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: so well. Like you and I had a lot of

717
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: similar traits and qualities, with the exception of that getting

718
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Speaker 3: to the airport, you know, twelve hours early. But we

719
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Speaker 3: can light clean things. We're big into instant gratification of

720
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Speaker 3: vacuuming and lawn cutting so you can see results immediately,

721
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Speaker 3: grilling for sure, all the things. That's why you and

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Speaker 3: I have become so close.

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Speaker 8: But here's here's the here's the thing, though it has

724
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Speaker 8: it has now verged on the precipice of like OCD

725
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Speaker 8: for me because I'm taking it a little bit too

726
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Speaker 8: far where like everything has to be clean, and my

727
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 8: wife is like, can you just leave it for a second.

728
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Speaker 6: Like I'm that guy that I'm like, I'm gonna I'm

729
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 6: flying back from Tallahassee to uh to Connecticut today. I'm

730
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Speaker 6: going to unpack my backpack and my backpack and my

731
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Speaker 6: bag right away when I got home. Like I'm that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you Jeff, jump in here in a second. Here's

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Speaker 1: how bad I am when I go on a trip,

734
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Speaker 1: even if it's for two days.

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Speaker 5: I take everything out of my suitcase or bag.

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Speaker 1: I put it in the drawers, and I put the

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Speaker 1: suitcase in a place where I don't have to see

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Speaker 1: it so I don't feel like I'm on a road trip.

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Speaker 5: Jeff, does this make sense to you?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit for how

741
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: crazy you are. Because my dad but usually is in

742
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Speaker 2: person for the podcast in the basement I'm recording from

743
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Speaker 2: with the two of you right now. He'll be here

744
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty hours. He'll get here on a Sunday night,

745
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: and he'll leave a Monday night, and he'll still unpack

746
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Speaker 2: his bags after arriving after baseball tonight, driving Frum Connecticut

747
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: to Pa, puts this stuff in, takes it out, and

748
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Speaker 2: packs it up the next day. And Sam, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: We have been pursed with amazing fathers, yes, but also

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Speaker 2: men that have created this sense of needing to be neat,

751
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: clean and tidy. I'm the same way. It drives me nuts.

752
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: I can't fall asleep if there's dishes in the sink.

753
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Speaker 2: It drives me insane.

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Speaker 6: Something percent with you, Jeff.

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Speaker 8: But the thing is is like you were just mentioning

756
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Speaker 8: the airport so we're all clean we're tidy, we got

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Speaker 8: the laundry done, but like we will be not late,

758
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Speaker 8: but we are just on time, Like we are not

759
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Speaker 8: showing up early to things.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 8: I have heard a numerous amount of stories from producers

762
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Speaker 8: at ESPN to anybody working on shows that Dad has done,

763
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 8: and they all say he comes prepared, he's ready to roll,

764
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 8: but he's showing up like when we gotta go, he

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Speaker 8: is ready to go right when he needs to be there.

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Speaker 5: Rebby explain how you never worry about those things? I

767
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 5: worry about everything? How do you do that?

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Speaker 3: I think never worrying is overstated. I think what you

769
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: don't see is the early worry. Like, all right, you

770
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Speaker 3: have to be in a mind frame of how many hours,

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Speaker 3: how many minutes is it going to take to walk

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Speaker 3: from point A to point B, or to drive from

773
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Speaker 3: point A to point B. But that involves checking ways early.

774
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Speaker 3: Like it's not as if I get in the car

775
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Speaker 3: and hope things work out. There's a lot of FOURK

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Speaker 3: thought that goes into it. I will say, I do,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure like you three have that dream every

778
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: now and then of not being able to get to

779
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Speaker 3: the studio literally in the building. I've been in for

780
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Speaker 3: thirty years. Every door is locked. I cannot get to

781
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Speaker 3: the show. That is a dream slash nightmare that I

782
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Speaker 3: have had where I'm walking the halls and every door

783
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Speaker 3: I'm supposed to go through is closed, and yet I

784
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: can see through some window. The show is like starting

785
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: like that happened. And I will say this. You know

786
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Speaker 3: when we did the games from Connecticut and Miami during

787
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: the pandemic in Korea, I learned that whether I'm there

788
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Speaker 3: or not, the show is.

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Speaker 6: Going to start.

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Speaker 9: I mean the KBO game we ever did, We're supposed

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Speaker 9: to start at this silly hour of five twenty five am.

792
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Speaker 3: We all know broadcasts start on the hour and at

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Speaker 3: the worst on a half hour. Not twenty five minutes happen.

794
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: And we found out fifteen minutes before this KBO game,

795
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: of course, in which we know zero players, and they

796
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: said rain your games rained out, We're now going to

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Speaker 3: go do the sk wyns and the KT whiz. And

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Speaker 3: literally that's telling us you're now going to have a

799
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Speaker 3: blind exam. I went into the other room in my

800
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Speaker 3: house to print out rosters because otherwise there he goes or,

801
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: as Harold Reynolds famously said on a set of Baseball Tonight.

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Speaker 5: My man Miel.

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00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: Well, my man. So I go to print off rosters

804
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: and it's five twenty four, five twenty five, and I'm

805
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: slowly walking back on to my little studio and I

806
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: hear EDWARDO. Perez say, welcome to the Kado. Well, there

807
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 3: you have the show lent on. I said, sorry, I

808
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: was printing out rosters. And maybe you guys are good

809
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: at that speaking to this. Having done something for thirty

810
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: years and Tim a little bit longer, you do develop

811
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Speaker 3: a bit of a leash where they allow something like that.

812
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: I just I don't panic about that. It doesn't happen

813
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: very often, but it did happen that morning, and I'm

814
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: still employed, right.

815
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Speaker 5: And that one is Y's greatest strength is he never panicked.

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00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 7: We did a Baseball Tonight my first year there, nineteen

818
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Speaker 7: ninety eight, and the show wasn't even supposed.

819
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Speaker 10: To happen, and then jud Birch walked in and said, okay,

820
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Speaker 10: we're doing forty five minutes right now.

821
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Speaker 5: No rundown, no shot sheets, nothing, we get it.

822
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: He gets in our ear the producer and says, boys,

823
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: good luck, you're gonna need it.

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Speaker 10: And your father never panicked, he steered the ship, Harold,

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00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 10: and I just followed him.

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Speaker 5: Perfect point guard. That is the key for all young broadcasters.

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Speaker 1: Never panicked, Sam, Jeff, you agree.

828
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Speaker 2: When we started doing morning radio, this is as true

829
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Speaker 2: as can be.

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00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: You know, I was.

831
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Speaker 2: I'm the morning show host, right, I'm the one bringing

832
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: people in. I talk out of the song and say

833
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: do all that stuff. And my dad always talked about

834
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Speaker 2: the stress of being a great point guard.

835
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Speaker 5: As a host.

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Speaker 2: And always use Sam, your dad as the example as

837
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: the best point guard in the game of television because

838
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: he knows how to cue people up. Not in the

839
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: obvious way, right, dam didn't you have a story like that?

840
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: But doing it when you've been doing it as long

841
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: as these gentlemen have together, of course it gets easier

842
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: because you just know where he's gonna go with this.

843
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: If you bring up a ground rule double. You know,

844
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: for Tim kirkshon over, there is going to blow a

845
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: casket a casket that he's gonna have to say it's.

846
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: An automack double.

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00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: And Carl knows that.

848
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Speaker 2: But the point is being a point guard, Carl, is

849
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Speaker 2: something that you My dad uses you as example, has

850
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: taught me how to be a better teammate and be

851
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: a good point guard to use the people around us.

852
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: And Sam, I mean, I'm sure you learned that from

853
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: your dad as well.

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00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 8: That was one of the things that he told me

855
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 8: going into this thing, was, you know, he has always said,

856
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Speaker 8: I want to be remembered as a broadcaster, not really

857
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 8: always for.

858
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 6: What I did, but for the fact that I've made.

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Speaker 8: The people on the show better, Like you know, being

860
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 8: that point guard and facilitating that's always the skill of

861
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 8: his and that's something that I hear again from people

862
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 8: at ESPN who worked on Baseball Tonight or who worked

863
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 8: in the Baseball space. They always said the most difficult

864
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 8: show at ESPN was the Baseball Tonight when they were

865
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 8: doing two days, because you just didn't always know.

866
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 6: What was happening.

867
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 8: And when you have somebody that panics in those moments,

868
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 8: not always the best teammate, right, So you got to

869
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 8: have somebody that can be a little bit calm and

870
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 8: be a little bit poised. I'll tell you this story

871
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 8: really quick. I remember that it was I was probably

872
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 8: in middle school and my dad was playing in a

873
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 8: charity golf tournament in Hartford. I think it was the

874
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 8: PGA kind of event. That they have here at Hartford,

875
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 8: and I was going to caddy and again just speaking

876
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 8: to the showing up right on time. I know my

877
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 8: dad remembers this.

878
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: We pulled up in the circle and he was playing

879
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 6: in it. I was caddying his tea. Time was about

880
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 6: like at noon.

881
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 8: Showed up at eleven fifty nine and I grabbed a

882
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 8: bag out of the trunk. We're racing to the tea box.

883
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 8: He goes up there, gives a wave to everybody on

884
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 8: the first tee, and he pipes a nice draw down

885
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 8: the first fairway about three hundred yards and he set

886
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 8: up perfectly, and I'm like, that's the coolest thing I've

887
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 8: ever seen.

888
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do remember that, and I will say

889
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: again those that circumstance was beyond our control because that

890
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: Travelers Championship was the day after the College World Series

891
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: had ended. I had flown in, so again the airlines,

892
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: which unfortunately screwed things up more than they have success,

893
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: they screwed that up. I was delayed, so it was

894
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: literally a wire shot, and thankfully we made it. That

895
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with this concept that you guys

896
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: have been talking about about kind of getting there a

897
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: few minutes in advance, but I do that intentionally. There

898
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: was no intent on that one was the point being

899
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: was it was cool, like you just that part's great.

900
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: But see, you know what I know about Jeffrey and Sam,

901
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: tim that they have that they have listened to thankfully,

902
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: is in our field.

903
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: And even as a parent, I think it's important. You know,

904
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: as a dad, it's hard to be a one trick pony.

905
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: You don't want to be a one trick pony. And

906
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: I think that is true about your career. And you know,

907
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: I know Jeffrey is incredibly versatile and he's done some

908
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: of the play by play stuff. We've seen him in Williamsport,

909
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: which was amazing. You know, Sam went about this differently

910
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: than I did. I started in a small market and

911
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: was a news and sports anchor in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in Binghamton,

912
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: New York, and then went to ESPN and did those

913
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: overnight sports centers and over thirty years transitioned into play

914
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: by play. Sam began his whole thing doing play by

915
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: play double A Baseball in Richmond, Virginia, and then continue

916
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: the play by play stuff at ESPN, and I continuously

917
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: implored him try to get into the studio. Do those

918
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: things be as versatile as you can. Part of being

919
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: the great point guard comes from the experience of being

920
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: a host a co host on a show in which

921
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: two people are doing Sports center. You're interviewing different people

922
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: throughout the show. That's why I think the transition to

923
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: play by play is a lot easier. And Baby, Sam

924
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: and Jeff, when you went from studio person or play

925
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: by play person into studio that you had that tool

926
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: in your tool box already, and it makes you better

927
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: at what you're doing now.

928
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Sam and Carl, I have to ask because what you

929
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: two do is as Carl mentioned, right, Sam, you're doing

930
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: play by play. Carl, you're doing play by play and

931
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: show hosting. What is that dynamic like? Because I don't

932
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: my dad's not calling me and saying, hey, you got

933
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: it wrong. Luke colnbs is the second best country artist

934
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty for right. So, even though we do

935
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: tell stories and I interview people for a living and

936
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: doing this podcast, I've learned so much from my dad

937
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: about how to interview, how to have a good interview

938
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: when we prep together. It's I've learned so much And

939
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: if I get anything from this podcast, besides a great

940
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: time I've been able to spend with my dad, it's

941
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: going to be seeing how he prepares for things.

942
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 5: But Sam, are.

943
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: You asking your dad for air checks?

944
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 5: Like, hey, can you listen to this?

945
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Or Carl, are you listening in and sending notes? Or

946
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: is it more of a you know, hey, don't ask,

947
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: don't tell it's work. Let's keep working hard and getting better.

948
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

949
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 6: I think it's a little bit of both.

950
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 8: Like I will send him some of my shows and

951
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 8: ask him for feedback. But he's he's always been like

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 8: a I'm not going to intrude on your space. He

953
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 8: wanted me to learn, you know, on my own. It

954
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 8: doesn't really do me a service, I don't think by

955
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 8: just trying to dictate some of what we do and

956
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 8: how we do it.

957
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 6: I've always asked for.

958
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 8: Advice help whenever I thought like I could use it,

959
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 8: and he's always been very gracious with you know, his

960
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 8: time and been watching it and giving me advice as well.

961
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 8: But you know, along with the the advice of actually

962
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 8: like the job portion of it, sometimes I just need

963
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 8: the fatherly advice on it, which is like you're doing great, man,

964
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 8: Like just just take it easy, enjoy the ride.

965
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 6: You're gonna be fine.

966
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 8: This is supposed to be fun like that is That

967
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 8: is some of the best advice I think I can get.

968
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 8: The other stuff, like, you know, we'll learn like anybody

969
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 8: on a normal on any any job, right, you learn.

970
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 6: As you go.

971
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 8: But sometimes you just need that that that comforting hand

972
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 8: behind you to say, like you're doing all right, It's okay,

973
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 8: right well.

974
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: And preparation, as we've talked about, is so important because

975
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: I live in fear of being unprepared for question being

976
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: asked or something that I don't know.

977
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 5: And I think I can tell the story ravy our.

978
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Dear friend Kyle Peterson, who's you know, the best college

979
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: baseball analyst, one of our best friends, absolutely tremendous.

980
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: He tells the story that he was a dugout reporter.

981
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 10: At early on and some obscure guy had just come

982
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 10: out of the game and they asked Kyle to interview

983
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 10: the guy.

984
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 5: But he starts the interview and he doesn't know who

985
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 5: the guy is and he has to.

986
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 10: Ask, who are you? I mean, those are the things

987
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 10: that I absolutely live in fear of. You guys must

988
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 10: have similar circumstances where you.

989
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: Go, boy, I better know what I'm doing here, Otherwise

990
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I could make a complete fool of myself.

991
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 8: I'll say this tim really quick. We have a game,

992
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 8: like I said, did a regional final last night. There

993
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 8: was a point in which after the game, I started

994
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 8: hearing the producer count down in my ear two in

995
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 8: a postgame interview.

996
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 6: I had no idea who we were interviewing at the time.

997
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 8: I hear ten, we got an interviews coming on ten,

998
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 8: and I'm hitting the talkback button saying who do we got?

999
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 6: Who do we got?

1000
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 8: And we we finally figured it was a great interview.

1001
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 8: But yes, to your point, if you if you stay ready,

1002
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 8: you don't have to get ready to absolutely and.

1003
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 5: Raby how many times?

1004
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 11: And you and I stand underneath the stands at Yankee

1005
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 11: Stadium or Fenway Park, we can't even see the final

1006
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 11: play of the game because we're tracked in a runway somewhere.

1007
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 5: Then we have to run out on the field and

1008
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: interview people. Again.

1009
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: That's why you got to be quick on your feet

1010
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: in this business, otherwise you're not gonna make it.

1011
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: You know, faking on your feet or seat, depending on

1012
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: whether you're standing or sitting, is important. The idea of

1013
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: not knowing a person you're interviewing or something like that.

1014
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: You know, having done baseballs and I for twenty odd

1015
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: years there was and sports center, soil, you learn little

1016
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 3: secrets and tricks of the trade. I mean to suggest

1017
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: that off the fifteen games a night, when all of

1018
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: a sudden they come in with a marin or highlight

1019
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: and some backup catchers in there, you learn. You know,

1020
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: if you kind of lay out here, the play by

1021
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: play voice in the background that's actually on the original

1022
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: highlight is likely going to mention the guy's name, so

1023
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: you hear the name and then you sound a lot

1024
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: more informed. And I'm sorry, I don't know. I did

1025
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: not know every single major league player during the years

1026
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: we were doing Baseball Tonight. Similarly hockey highlights with a

1027
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: lot of the foreign players. I know, sports and rankers

1028
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: have learned to just let the highlight kind of play

1029
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: a little bit without saying something when you don't know

1030
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: if it's for Shanky or for Yankee that's making the play.

1031
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: The play by play guy, you'll hear it on that

1032
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: highlight and then you can kind of pick up on it.

1033
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: So there's little tricks in the trade, you know that

1034
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 3: you can learn just two quick stories about the teaching

1035
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: part of it, my philosophy, you know, and look, we

1036
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 3: have dads too, or had dads too. The field I

1037
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 3: got into was an absolute foreign language to my bomb

1038
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: and dad. This whole thing was something they couldn't ever

1039
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: offer advice on because they didn't even understand it. And

1040
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: after not getting a job in Binghamton when I was

1041
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: the week end sports anchor and not getting the weekday

1042
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: job when a good friend of Tim andized Bill Pedo

1043
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: he left as the week day guy, I was supposed

1044
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: to take his job and didn't get it. So I

1045
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: thought that's the end of his career. And my dad said,

1046
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: probably want to come home. Now, we'll start you know,

1047
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: let's start over, Let's get a real job. I'm supporting,

1048
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 3: come on back. So there wasn't a lot of advice

1049
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: that way, but there was plenty of advice on the

1050
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: other things. To what Sam is talking about being a

1051
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: good teammate, you know, saying yes to generally any assignment

1052
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: you're being asked to do. The easier you make your

1053
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: boss's life, the more opportunities you're likely to have. Because

1054
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: in our field there are many who are pain in

1055
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 3: the ass to the boss, they make it harder on them,

1056
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: and just be the guy or the woman that they

1057
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: it gets along with everybody. Learn the tricks of the

1058
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: trade so you can appreciate, you know, what an audio

1059
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 3: person is doing, what a cameraman is going through, how

1060
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: our producer is thinking. As opposed to you probably should

1061
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: have said this here, layout, here, peaks and valleys with

1062
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: the voice. But those things I learned by observing the

1063
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: people in the field, not necessarily by asking a parent

1064
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: or a father who never was in it. You guys

1065
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: have parents that are in it. I just don't ever

1066
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: look at it like that's that's my you know, my

1067
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: primary responsibility. You'll you'll figure it out. And you're you,

1068
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: I mean, most importantly, don't be me, you know, be you.

1069
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: We've been around. Think about the legends of broadcasting. Who

1070
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 3: are our peers that have gone on to such great

1071
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: things and Chris Berman and Mike Turco and Chris Fowler

1072
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: and Rhys Davis and John Saunders and Robert Roberts. There

1073
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 3: are just little bits and pieces that you observed that

1074
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: they didn't come and tell me. And you pick up things.

1075
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 3: But you've got to be yourself. And I always felt

1076
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: too much interference means you're going to be more like

1077
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: new or don't Stewart stut there's only one that ever lived.

1078
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: Don't try that. And there was a generation of people

1079
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: who did try the mimicking thing, and that's just not me.

1080
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: Now, Carl, I have a question a little bit about

1081
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, day of when you're doing a big, big

1082
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: game of Sunday night baseball, a Monday night baseball game,

1083
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: and when my dad was in the booth with you guys,

1084
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: it always seemed like there was a running bit or

1085
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: a gag or something that you were able to get

1086
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: the audience in on. And I recall one of my favorites,

1087
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: and I hope I don't steal your favorite story, which

1088
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: is when you guys were at Fenway Park and my

1089
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: dad was wearing a winter coat in the booth, mind.

1090
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: You, and gloves.

1091
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, he had lost.

1092
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: One of his gloves and he was complaining, I can't

1093
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: find my glove. Can't find my glove. And at every

1094
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: bump shot, you know, when you come back from a

1095
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: commercial or you're about to go to a commercial, you

1096
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: had the whole camera crew in on it putting his

1097
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: glove and different on the monster.

1098
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: It's on a scene and Dad never noticed it played

1099
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: the playback. I mean, just genius.

1100
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: I just love I had to because I know you

1101
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: had to have been behind that front, right.

1102
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: You know it's I was certainly a part of it.

1103
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: I mean there was We were always trying to conspire

1104
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: ways and unfortunately your dad, who I know is in

1105
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: the room and can hear this. He is one of

1106
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: the perfect targets for things like because of the way

1107
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: he behaves and look with you know, there's a great

1108
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: story about getting to a Yankee game when it's snowing

1109
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: seven hours early, sitting in a parking garage that it

1110
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: wasn't even open. Somehow he got the car in there.

1111
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: The game gets canceled, he's got to go home. But

1112
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: he created so many of those opportunities. You know, we

1113
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: still arted this before we came on to do the

1114
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: podcast The Heavy Side the Knee Platt. There are so

1115
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: many mannerisms that everybody, everybody, I mean Jeff and Sam.

1116
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: You walk into a Baseball Tonight green room and as

1117
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: soon as he walks in, oh and then everybody as

1118
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 3: everybody's doing the Tim kirkshinak. So yeah, the glove thing

1119
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: was great because and Wardo was in on everybody was

1120
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: in on it, and there was this glove. You know,

1121
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: it's like the TV over Sam's you know, left shoulder there.

1122
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: Everybody can see it except the gloves. The glove there,

1123
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: it's in the popcorn. It's everywhere, right, right, kid? It

1124
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: was wonderful, right.

1125
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 12: The message here, though, The chemistry between the people on

1126
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 12: air is the most important thing, whether you're in a

1127
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 12: booth or in the studio. Rammy and I have great chemistry,

1128
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 12: and I easily irritate him and easily annoy him by

1129
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 12: bringing back the same old lines and the same old

1130
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 12: jokes because he's already heard him before, and he he rolls.

1131
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: His eyes better than any one I've ever seen. Whether

1132
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, some stupid joke that I.

1133
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 5: Tell, he even knows it's coming.

1134
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 10: Now on every show we do, I look at rab

1135
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 10: and go. Did I ever tell you I went to

1136
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 10: Walter Johnson High School? And he just wants to leave

1137
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 10: the booth. But the irritable rabb is an even better RAVI.

1138
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 10: So I'm a big believer. Chemistry in the booth is

1139
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 10: absolutely critical. You young guys recognize that, right.

1140
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.

1141
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 6: Tim.

1142
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 8: I'm curious when was the first moment that you realize, yeah,

1143
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 8: I think I can have some chemistry with this guy.

1144
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: No, it was right.

1145
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: Away with Ravi because again I saw very early on

1146
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: as the show host, just like we talked about earlier,

1147
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: his job was to make me feel comfortable there because

1148
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: he knew if I was uncomfortable, I wasn't gonna be

1149
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: any good and if he panicked and and he was uncomfortable,

1150
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I would have no chance. So the chemistry begin very

1151
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: quickly between the two.

1152
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 10: As far as throwing barbs at each other, that took

1153
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 10: a few.

1154
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: Years and then and now it's like an all out

1155
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: war every time we go on the air, and it's hilarious.

1156
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: It's hilarious until these people and again, you guys have

1157
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 3: dealt with social media your entire life. What is what

1158
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: always I find so amazing is while we would do

1159
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: a broadcast and Tim is about to start a story

1160
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: and I'll just finish it before he goes into did

1161
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: I ever tell you yes, I know, yes, I know

1162
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: you wrote for that and all of those I get it.

1163
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: People would would unfortunately sit there and say, please leave

1164
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: Tim alone, like we make fun of Tim, And at

1165
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: that point I just said, you know that in a

1166
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: sense you're not getting it. And like you said, Jeff,

1167
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: the goal is to invite people in like you, We're

1168
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: trying to make you part of this if you were,

1169
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: and I think we got to a point, or I

1170
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: certainly got to a point where it felt like you

1171
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: had a certain real core group of people that were

1172
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: watching who understood. It's like watching Seinfeld whatever. You get it,

1173
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: like you know, I get it. And the first time

1174
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: somebody watches that show, they may look at it and

1175
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: be like, I don't understand any of it, but the

1176
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: other people in the room who've watched it for so long,

1177
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: they understand it. And the other point about the comfort

1178
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: and the chemistry and the point guard. Anybody that ever

1179
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: does play by play should realize personally that I believe

1180
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: we are only as good as the analysts, because those

1181
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: are the ones with the expertise. I don't really think,

1182
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: with the exception of a very few people, that people

1183
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: tune in to hear who's doing the play by play.

1184
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: You know, game five, game six, game seven, we're all

1185
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: gonna watch because it's game five, six or seven, not

1186
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: because play by play person X Y and Z are

1187
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: doing it. I always look at the play by play

1188
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: and booth as the condiment to the main course. If

1189
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: it's a burger where the ketchup and the salt and

1190
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: the mustard and the pickle, that's what we are. We

1191
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: can make it taste a little bit better, but you're

1192
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: still gonna eat. You still want to watch that. And

1193
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: the only way that you entice people to watch it

1194
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: is to make sure that the Tims and the Eduardos

1195
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: and the Cones and the bus and the Heralds are comfortable.

1196
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Buck show author is like one of the

1197
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: most wonderful human beings ever. But it was very evident

1198
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: to us when he first started there wasn't he wasn't

1199
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: comfortable on TV. And if you could figure out a

1200
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 3: way to get Buck to be loose and to share

1201
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: what he does in the room with us on TV,

1202
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: we all win, and the viewer wins. And that to

1203
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: me is the key. If you can get those guys

1204
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: to be as comfortable as possible and as good as possible.

1205
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: And to your point, Chef, that doesn't me saying Tim,

1206
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: do you remember when Barry Bonds came? Like of course,

1207
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: Jim remembers that you've gotta take them down a road

1208
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: that they're not exactly sure. And I know the analyst

1209
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 3: on our show had said, you never know what the

1210
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: hell he's gonna ask you, And I think that's important.

1211
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: You know, you've got to keep the analysts on edge.

1212
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: I don't want you to sit there and think like

1213
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: this is this is gonna be rote and routine and easy,

1214
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: and you know it. I'm not. I'm never gonna embarrass

1215
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: anybody ever. But I know I listened to what they

1216
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: say in the green room and other things later on,

1217
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: that's gonna come up in the show, like that's coming up,

1218
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: and it may have nothing more often than nothing to

1219
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: do with baseball. But if Bobby Valentine talks about a

1220
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: bike accident and that he had or left a wallet

1221
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: where Tim said something, we will bring that up. That

1222
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: becomes the inside joke that everybody at home is gonna

1223
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 3: be privy to that happened.

1224
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Long right, long story, I'll make it quick. And I

1225
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: got a speeding ticket while doing a radio show on

1226
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: my way to Brace the Ones with my daughter and

1227
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: her best friend in the backseat.

1228
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 5: Ravi the Mischievous Ravi the found.

1229
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 10: The audio of me talking to a policewoman one time

1230
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 10: was doing a radio show and ran it. Ambushed me

1231
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 10: on the show that night. It was one of the

1232
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 10: stupidest things I've ever seen. It was totally hilarious.

1233
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: But it's because he recognized that's funny, and that's part

1234
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: of the battle.

1235
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 5: When you're a play by play guy or any on

1236
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 5: air guy. What is going to work.

1237
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: Right and quickly? Jeff, look the wedding dancing video of times.

1238
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 3: The most maybe the most important lesson in all of

1239
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: this is, hey, be comfortable with who you are and

1240
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. My god, Tim

1241
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: has made a career not only out of laughing at

1242
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: himself but because of it causing everyone else to have

1243
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: a good time and laugh too.

1244
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 2: You kind of gained that mischievous in all in good

1245
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: heart and all of it. But do you have that

1246
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: kind of It's very creative to come up with these

1247
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: kind of things. Let me find this radio clip, well,

1248
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: let me get this dancing clip because Tim said he

1249
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: was going to a wedding. Do you find that you

1250
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: had that creative streak?

1251
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 8: I find that I like, I want to have it,

1252
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 8: but I don't feel like I'm at the point yet

1253
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 8: where I think I deserve to be having that amount

1254
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: of leeway, Like I feel like I need to be

1255
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 8: a little bit more straight laced right now. Maybe once

1256
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 8: we establish ourselves a little bit more, we could we

1257
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 8: could get a little bit more creative. But the one

1258
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 8: thing that I do agree with that my dad said

1259
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 8: was like, you have to be able to laugh at

1260
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 8: yourself when you when you mess up, or when you

1261
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 8: make a mistake.

1262
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 6: Or you know, just in general.

1263
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 8: Like this again, I go back to just saying this

1264
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 8: is supposed to be fun. If we're not having fun

1265
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 8: on the air, I guarantee you the people at home aren't.

1266
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 6: Having fun either. So yeah, that that is another piece of.

1267
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 8: Advice that that I have just carried along with me

1268
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 8: and the I think the mantra on Baseball tonight for

1269
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 8: a long time when I would always go in was

1270
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 8: just get comfortable being uncomfortable like that was something they

1271
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 8: would always say, and I chopped.

1272
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 6: That with me too.

1273
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1274
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we can keep you guys all day, but

1275
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Sam has to go to the airport. One question, Sam,

1276
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: do you have a printed boarding pass in your pocket

1277
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: at the moment, Because I have never left a hotel

1278
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: room or home without a printed boarding pass in my pocket.

1279
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: Or you like your dad, who doesn't care.

1280
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: He just shows up and walks through.

1281
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 6: I have not checked into my flight yet. How about that.

1282
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. That's just you leave in

1283
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 3: ninety minutes.

1284
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 6: I'll try not to get a speeding ticket on the

1285
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 6: wind of the airport.

1286
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 5: Right while you're doing a radio show.

1287
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, well raight.

1288
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: Carl, thank you so much for joining the podcast seriously,

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Speaker 2: And Sam, I know you'll join me in saying a

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Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day to these two amazing broadcast dads. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for being our best friends, our biggest supporters. We

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Speaker 2: would not have what we have in our lives without you.

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Speaker 2: We both sound a lot like our dad. Sam, You're

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Speaker 2: a lot luckier than I am in that case because

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Speaker 2: your dad's got him velvet smooth boys, and I've got

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Speaker 2: this uberty voice that I'm dealing with. But thank you

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Speaker 2: Sam and Carl. Happy Father's Day. Carl and Dad, thank

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Speaker 2: you guys so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's great, great, Thanks everyone, you guys agreed.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Sam, Thank you Carl for joining us for

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Speaker 2: our Father's Day episode. And Dad, you mentioned it at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 1: It's very special.

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Speaker 2: I'm a first time dad. This is my very first

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Speaker 2: Father's Day. We got a ten month old baby girl.

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Speaker 2: She is just the light of my life. She's incredible.

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Speaker 2: My wife just had her first Mother's Day naturally, and

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Speaker 2: I mean I pulled out all the stops. I got

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Speaker 2: her these rings that have the name of our new

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Speaker 2: puppy Ranger, and then McKinley with her birth stone, and like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a little stackable rings, and got her like

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Speaker 2: this really cute bag that she can carry McKinley in

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Speaker 2: and everything. And she just recently asked me, well, what

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Speaker 2: do you want for your first Father's Day? And without hesitation,

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Speaker 2: I said, a new vacuum for the pool And she said,

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Speaker 2: are you serious? And I said, yeah, absolutely, make my

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Speaker 2: life a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I used to make fun of you

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Speaker 1: for asking for very practical gifts growing.

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Speaker 2: Up, thinking, Dad, don't you want something cool, some fancy machine.

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Speaker 1: You go, no, I just need some new socks and

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Speaker 1: maybe a new shovel.

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Speaker 2: That'd be nice, Right, that's a dad gift, and I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you remember one Father's Day recently for Father's Day,

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Speaker 1: I got a broom to help clean the house. You

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Speaker 1: got me an ear trimmer so I could trim my ears,

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Speaker 1: and you got me a trimmer so I could shave

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Speaker 1: my back. Now that's a father's day that you don't

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Speaker 1: forget something to clean the floors, shave your ears, and

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Speaker 1: to shave your back. That's an Armedian father. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and to all the dads out there, a

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Speaker 2: happy Father's Stay to you. Thank you for making us

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Speaker 2: a part of your Father's Stay week, and as always,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being a part of our family.