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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites that podcasts from the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: We're like two weeks from the actual NFL season, beginning

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Speaker 1: as promised twice a week, Simon Hunter and I have

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Speaker 1: been going through every single division in football, every team.

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Speaker 1: How have they improved since last season? What are their

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl odds? What are their conference odds? What are

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Speaker 1: their division odds? What are their season win totals. We

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Speaker 1: have very specifically waited to do the a f C

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Speaker 1: South until we had someone who actually played in the

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Speaker 1: gonna do that today. I will get to him in

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Speaker 1: a second. Simon, my bff, my companion. What's going on? Brother? Cha?

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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy? How you doing? I'm so ready. I'm

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Speaker 1: so ready for week zero. You know, we had Brett

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Speaker 1: McMurphy on the podcast on Tuesday, and I thought your

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Speaker 1: questions were amazing, and I thought the way you sort

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Speaker 1: of responded to the insider nature of what he does.

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Speaker 1: It didn't even occur to me that, you know, you

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Speaker 1: joined me for the podcast three seasons ago. We did

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Speaker 1: it with Darren that one year, and then last year

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Speaker 1: you and I did it solo and you're so good

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Speaker 1: at this already, and you're such a media professional already.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that, like you would have legit questions about

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be an insider because I'm a

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Speaker 1: jaded old media veteran who has been doing this for

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Speaker 1: so fucking long. It didn't even occur to me to

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Speaker 1: think that people might have interest in understanding how Brett

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Speaker 1: McMurphy does what he does. So I loved when you

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Speaker 1: were asking those questions. They were great, No, I was amazing,

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Speaker 1: especially the fact that he's hitting me up saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you were have college information, reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're the information I get, Brett, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to you're not getting. So that was pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I'm I'm just so pumped, like for NFL,

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Speaker 1: especially this this time of year, like we always talked about,

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Speaker 1: this is where everyone's so happy, so excited for their team.

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Speaker 1: They're just in complete denial. And that's what I love

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Speaker 1: about doing the show with you, is like not on

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Speaker 1: the bear of bad news. But again, I told people

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Speaker 1: they won't find any other show in all of America

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Speaker 1: telling you to take the bills under And I've seen

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Speaker 1: I think. We have like three shows ourselves on the

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Speaker 1: Action Network, all three different shows. Every every show, these

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Speaker 1: people like, yeah, I take the bills. Over take the

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Speaker 1: bills to win the division. I'm telling you people, it's

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Speaker 1: never this easy. Fade the noise. This is how I

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Speaker 1: win money the NFL. Fade the noise. People are always

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Speaker 1: overthinking this ship. Uh listen, Justin Fields is the greatest

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Speaker 1: quarterback who ever lived. Uh. Chicago Bears going to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Uh behind Justin Fields by about week four.

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Speaker 1: I firmly believe it. Um, Let's bring in our very

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Speaker 1: special guest joining us today is actually a man intimately

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Speaker 1: familiar with today's subject matter because he played in the

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Speaker 1: a f C South six seasons with the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: during a terrific nine year career as an NFL defensive back,

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Speaker 1: one of Yukon's finest. He's also the co host of

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Speaker 1: The Man a Man podcast with fellow defensive back Antoine Bethea.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Darius Butler, how are you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: I'm great, man. I appreciate you guys for having me.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're coming on. I love that, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I love right now how much athletes and

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Speaker 1: former professional athletes embrace podcasts. It's it's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I need to know when you got when you and

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Speaker 1: Antoine decided to even do this, Like why do it?

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you feel like you can bring?

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Speaker 1: What do you feel what does the feedback you get

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Speaker 1: from fans? What are you saying now that you wish

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Speaker 1: you had been able to say when you were playing?

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Speaker 1: I mean everything, honestly. You know, as a players, you

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Speaker 1: know you're and especially me, I came in through Belichick

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Speaker 1: That's where I was drafted up in New England, so

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Speaker 1: we were pretty much prepped for interviews. You knew what

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Speaker 1: on other players and injuries or yours things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: And then you go to different teams and it's different cultures, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you guys can actually, like you know, speak your mind here,

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Speaker 1: I never in a million years but thought me Ori

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Speaker 1: But you know, you start going to other people's podcast

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Speaker 1: you know this podcast, past podcasts kind of cool. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a different conversation. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: UM enjoy it. On the other side, and that's one

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Speaker 1: have just absolutely ridiculous conversations, important conversation to talk about

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Speaker 1: your family, all type of things. So it's it's cool

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Speaker 1: and we're enjoying UM. Kind of it's just the beginning

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Speaker 1: for us actually going to a year two when Bill

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of you do businesses, businesses being

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Speaker 1: we have fun winning super Bowls. Over here. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the best feeling ever. It is. Winning is everything.

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Speaker 1: it's all worth it. And then you look back at

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously Tom Brady's number one. That's easy. I

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Speaker 1: that was the epitome of Andrew Luck as an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown and Derek Henry leaning off the bus. Um.

428
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: I liked that on offense. And then we'll see what

429
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: Bud Dupree is coming off his injury and obviously being

430
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: the guy now at the past rusher position, and you

431
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: went out and drafted Um Caleb in the first round,

432
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: who you know, a lot of people wouldn't expect him

433
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: to be there without the injury, and now you wouldn't

434
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: got Jack Rabbit Jenkins on the other side. So they

435
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: made some improvements on both sides of the ball. So

436
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see We're not too excited being uh,

437
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: you know a coach fan, but um, Derek, what's there?

438
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: What's their winning total at uh nine? I mean that's

439
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: I feel like both of those are those are gimmes

440
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: right now. I mean I'm not an expert, I'm a

441
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: football guy. That's those that sounds pretty good to me.

442
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: Seventeen games. Let me ask you this, who was the

443
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry running back when you were playing? If you

444
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: were five yards off the line of scrimmage, he had

445
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: a full head of steam and there was a hole

446
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: and you were the only thing that could stop. I mean,

447
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: you know, you don't You don't see Derek Henry. You

448
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: don't you know that's that's a mutant um at that position.

449
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Man Lynch, Marshawn Lynch was a bas remember him, you

450
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: playing against him? I can't even see it in my head, man,

451
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: that that was how coming downhill at Marshawn Lynch. I mean, honestly,

452
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: playing against Marshawn and guys like him, it's it's like

453
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to hit it, like you hate hitting him.

454
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: But he makes a game fun like it's almost like

455
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: playing in the backyard, like playing you feel like you're

456
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: playing a kid's game because it's so a lot of

457
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: things that he did was unconventional and his balance, his

458
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: strength was crazy. But um you know I wasn't. I

459
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: would always go into lay. I'm going for a kneecap

460
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: on those guys that the guys that I worried about

461
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: was in my air like a shady McCoy um Arian Foster.

462
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: A lot of people slept on him. Levian Bell behind

463
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh online, which once again you had to worry about.

464
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: Let me he was patient. They would find that was

465
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: a great online, by the way, and then you also

466
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: had account for eighty four and outside, which made things

467
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: easier on some Sundays on. So you're gonna be in

468
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: that position a lot playing against the Titans this year.

469
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: How much do you feel it? Very specifically during a

470
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: game at the point of contact, because I know, let

471
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: let me give a frame of reference that only I

472
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: can give and Simon will appreciate this. The other day,

473
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: I'm opening the door, the door hits my shin in

474
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: a weird way. I'm like, funck that hurt. And then

475
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: I immediately thought to myself the number of times a

476
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: defensive back or an offensive tackle or a running back

477
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: gets a helmet or a foot or an l bow

478
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: to the shin in a game, it's extraordinarily cleep, and

479
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: yet everyone just gets up and runs around like the

480
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: even the smallest moment of impact in football, the things

481
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: that cause people to keel over in pain on a

482
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: day to day basis, like a stub toe of things

483
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: like that. But how much during the game are you

484
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: actually even feeling that? Honestly, not a lot. You know,

485
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: when it's cold, you know your extremities, your fingers, your

486
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: toes um, and hitting a guy like Derek everyone it's

487
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: cold outside sucks hitting anything following on the ground. But

488
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: outside of that, man, honestly, it's so it's so much

489
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: adrenaline pumping three veins, um sometimes some other things, you know,

490
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: toward all some whatever you take to get game ready,

491
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: and um, adrenaline more than anything though, Honestly, when you're

492
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: playing and then you're focused on so much, you're hearing

493
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: so much, you're seeing so much. As soon as you

494
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: hit somebody, as long as you're obviously not concussing anything

495
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: like that, um, you know you're up and you're almost

496
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: you're thinking about the next player already. It's like, damn, okay,

497
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: y'all get that in the first down, is it? You know,

498
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: third and three? Is it? When you're already thinking in processing? Okay,

499
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: what's coming on? Is nickel about the running the game

500
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: and my stubbing out, Like what's going on? So so

501
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: many thoughts going to your mind that honestly, you don't

502
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: really start to feel those bumps and bruises from the

503
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: game to like Tuesday morning, Monday night. Uh, you know,

504
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: unless it's something you know that's really bad, But you don't.

505
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: You don't. You're not thinking about that, um, you know

506
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: at all, unless you're probably you know, you're late thirties,

507
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: um out there playing you're dealing with some significant injuries,

508
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: but you know a normal game, you're not. No, we

509
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta keep you pushing. We've got other things coming.

510
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of dummy would play this game

511
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: into their late thirties or early forties. That's just crazy. Um,

512
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about so like let me

513
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: let me reset here. So we like the Colds over

514
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: nine a lot, simon fair to say, we like the

515
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Colts at plus one fifty to win the division. Yeah,

516
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: and let me explain to people, Uh, Darius made a

517
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: classic mistake here about and he said, he said that

518
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: over was ninety said, that's that's pretty good. I would

519
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: definitely take that over. That's him and every other person

520
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: and all of America walk into the sports books and

521
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: they go Tennessee nine and eight. That's easy. This team's

522
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: got Julio, they got a J. Brown, they got Derrick

523
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: Henry Tannehill. You know he improved off last year. I'm

524
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: telling you people, this is how the sports books win.

525
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: This is how they get you these little traps. Man,

526
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to get people with the Bills.

527
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: Of course, the Bills are in won more than eleven games.

528
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: That's what the sports books want you to think. People.

529
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: So Titans, the Titans, I don't know what the number is.

530
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: By guarantee, it's gonna be all the money is on

531
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the over. I'm pretty sure. I've been in a five

532
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: sports books and I bet this under. Every time they

533
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: go are you sure, and I go, yeah, I fucking

534
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Okay, this is my money here.

535
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: But it's one of these where I get white people

536
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: love this Titans team. But the bookmakers give you little

537
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: they give you a little hidden tricks how to notice

538
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: that they're kind of sucking can be in here? And

539
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: why is this only minus one tend to win this division? Chad,

540
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: isn't Tennessee have way less question marks? In the Colts,

541
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: They're far better than the Jaguars. I mean, the Texans

542
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: aren't even the same conversation as the Tennessee Titans. So

543
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: these are all these little things. Where as a pro

544
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I look at it. Go Okay, the sports books are

545
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: laying traps here because we can. We can go over

546
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: the history man teams do not repeat as divisional winners

547
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: and in the FC right now, okay, let's talk about teams.

548
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I won the division last year, the Bills won the

549
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: division last year, the Chiefs won their division last year,

550
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: the Titans won their division last year, and then we

551
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: had Pittsburgh win their division. Everyone's out on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh

552
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: is pretty much dead. People are done with Pittsburgh. I

553
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: think the same thing is happening with Tennessee that people

554
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: are just thinking, Okay, it's just gonna be like last year.

555
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee is gonna do really well again. But I think

556
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I think not enough people are talking about how so

557
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: many things went right for this Tennessee Titan team last year.

558
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is healthy entire year. He did not miss

559
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: a beat last year. He was honestly the best player

560
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: to meet in football last year because I don't even

561
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: know if he did, but I think you're in for

562
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: two thousand yards and a passing league like this man three.

563
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: So that's my job as a pro year is I

564
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: have to be that negative guy. But I hit you

565
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: with the truth where it's like this ship don't work

566
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: that way in sports, man, It's really hard to win

567
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: back to back years. That's why we all respect the

568
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: hell out of the Patriots. So for me, just like

569
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: in the optics, everything points to an undertotal for this

570
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: tendency Titans team. So please, people do not bet this

571
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: over nine nine at seven and ten from Tennessee. I

572
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: can't see it. I know it's hard, man, This is

573
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: for me. This Yeah, it's hard for me to see that.

574
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the coaches or the Titans, you're

575
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna win that division. Both teams played the Jags in

576
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: the Texas twice, which you know they're gonna split with

577
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: one of those teams. That's just how it works, um.

578
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: But man, it's that's tough for me to see. I

579
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: can't see that one. But that's the beauty of this, right,

580
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: It's like, it's also about where do you find the value.

581
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: If the bookmakers are pricing the Titans at minus one ten,

582
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: minus one fifteen to win the division and everyone is

583
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: feeling like the Colts, who two months ago had a

584
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: season win total of ten and a half, Like, all

585
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're getting a plus one fifty and

586
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: you're getting the same roster that when it was priced

587
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: to ten and a half. You take the Colts. I mean,

588
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: this is about finding value. So that's where the value is.

589
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: The only Paul is there for me, even as a

590
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: Colts fan, is I got more question marks around a

591
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: quarterback position. That's the position you don't want question marks

592
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: about around. So that that that that will be the

593
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: only thing that gives me more apologies, Like, Okay, we

594
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: expect cards. I expect Carson Wents to be better. Um mentally,

595
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: I think more of anything he struggled last year. It

596
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: was just he wasn't confident in what was going on

597
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: around him. That will be much better, But I don't know.

598
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: He still got to answer that Tannehill. He's been building,

599
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: he's been building his momentum and building, Dary Henry is

600
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: gonna have some more pressure taking all Julio Jones out there.

601
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Coaches and players are still still fear Julio generals. I

602
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys realized that or not, but

603
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: he's still that guy. Um, so you know, we'll see.

604
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Letna be interesting, all right. Well, now Darius Butler believes

605
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: that Simon Hunter doesn't know what he's talking about. No, no, no,

606
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: no no. Now he is convinced himself that the Titans

607
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: are the right side, and then the coaches aren't gonna

608
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: win nine games. That's how I'm seeing it. I'm just

609
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: trying to playing the public never wins man. That's that's

610
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: how books, books make their money. Vegas was built on losers,

611
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: and that's just like it's just classic traps man. That's

612
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: all I know is this, Darius Butler made millions as

613
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: an NFL player, and he just basically bet you, Simon

614
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: all of that on the Titans winning more than nine games.

615
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: That's that's how that's how I hate the Titans. They're winning,

616
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: they're winning, they're winning more than nine games. The Jags

617
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: are interesting because they're gonna start Trevor Lawrence and they've

618
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: got a coach who's never coached in the NFL, and

619
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: there are reports it's out of Jacksonville that make it

620
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: feel like urban Meyer is already in over his head. Darius,

621
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: as a former player, is a guy who keeps his

622
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: pulse on the finger, his finger on the post of

623
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: the league. What are you hearing out of Jacksonville? What

624
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: do you see? What is your take about it? College

625
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: coach and a first number one overall pick starting the season.

626
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean I had some huge I played with two

627
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: number one overall picks with new coaches Cam Newton, Ron

628
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Rivera who obviously had experience in the league playing in

629
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: coaching before he got that job. And then Chuck Bagana

630
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck and Indy and Chuck Mgona once again

631
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: had experience, um, you know in Baltimore as as a

632
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: defensive coach. So now you've got a guy who has

633
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: no NFL experience, all college experience, and then you have

634
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's coming in who's you know, highly touted,

635
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, Hilly regarded, UM a lot of moving parts. Um,

636
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't howing on the higher honestly when they brought

637
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: urban Meyer in. And he's done a lot of things

638
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of made me looking. Yeah, I kind of

639
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: know bringing in Doyle, uh, the strength coach. Then you

640
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: draft you know, Eat Seeing in the first round, and

641
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: then you're telling me he's taking all receiver reps. Uh,

642
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: you draft the corner the top of the second, you

643
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: got them playing nickel and outside like all these things

644
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: kind of as a players like, I know, it's a

645
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: player that's a tough position and learned either one of

646
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: them let alone too. So it's a lot of things

647
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of like already. And then I saw some

648
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: reports today that was, you know, some some players aren't

649
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: thrilled with Urban Myer on the job and he's doing

650
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: out there. I kind of saw it happen in my

651
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: days with Chip Kelly and Philly and they had all

652
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: that talent out there with Shady and Macklin and it

653
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. Um. So I'm not I'm not bullish.

654
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm very bearish on Urban Meyer down there in Jacksonville. Um.

655
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: And and honestly don't see it lasting more than the

656
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: two years. But I think Trevor Lawns would be good

657
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: in this league. I think it's definitely gonna take some

658
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: time because a lot of moving parts um around him.

659
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: You need some type of stability um at that quarterback

660
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: position because we had a roster wasn't terrible when uh

661
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Indy when when when Andrew Luck came in, it was

662
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: just Peyton was hurt the year before. Just that Reggie Wayne,

663
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: you know venitary pad special teams. Uh Robert Matthews, Freney

664
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: was still there for a couple of years. You have

665
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: still antoine, but that you still have pillars in that building.

666
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 1: Um that knew how to win and how an organization

667
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: is supposed to be ran from the locker room out signing. Yeah,

668
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: that's why it was a nice weekend for me. I

669
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: pretty much told you how I felt about the rookie

670
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last week, and then everything came to fruition. I said,

671
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Fields need to chill out. He got a helmet to

672
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: the face. I woke kids at I said, Trevor Lawrence

673
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: went from being on the best high school to the

674
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: best college to now the worst NFL team. So it's

675
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: one of these where everything there. She said, It's so true, man,

676
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I these college coaches just don't get it. They went

677
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: from being the main power source they controlled all these

678
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: little kids, you know, making them do whatever they want

679
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: to get into these colleges, and once they get to

680
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: the college, they control their lives. So now you've got

681
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: dudes that make more money than you, and they don't

682
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: like he just said, you might be out in a

683
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: year or two. These guys have guaranteed money, so they

684
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. The coaches needs to get over his

685
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: ego when he comes into a situation like this, and

686
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: all the little things I've seen from Urban I have

687
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: not liked, and he dare just named a bunch of them.

688
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I think he's made a lot of wrong moves. And

689
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: just watching this last preseason game, not that he looked lost,

690
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: but he looked like the same way Nick Saban looked,

691
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: where Nick Saban was like, fuck am I doing here?

692
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Like like I was a god. I could get any

693
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: kid I wanted, any talent I wanted. I had the

694
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: best team and everyone I played against. So literally, the

695
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: Jags are terrible. Like they got a couple of studs

696
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: on defense, but that old line is really bad. I mean,

697
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: I like Robinson the running back a lot, the undrafted kid.

698
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: He killed it last year, but everything it looks like

699
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, it just looks like he's gonna have

700
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: a really rough first year. So we talked last week

701
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: about that, and it's funny. A guy I said, I

702
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: like Zach Wilson. He's gone now from plus one thousand

703
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year to plus seven fifty. People are

704
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: really based on a lot of their betting right now

705
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: on what's happening in the preseason. Right told you, I'm

706
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: just looking at footwork and how they deliver the ball,

707
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: what kind of decisions they're making, because rookies are gonna

708
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: do stupid ship they're gonna throw picks, they're gonna get

709
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: take dumb hits and dump sacks. I'm not really worried

710
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: about that. Like Trevor Lawrence. He had a couple of

711
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: those plays last game. My my big sin serve for

712
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is just the fact that what he has

713
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: around him, I I just don't trust the coaching. I

714
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: don't trust a position they're putting him in. So I'm

715
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: with Darius. I am just so off of this team

716
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: right now. And it's one of the few ones where

717
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I had high hopes coming in because it was just

718
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: a fun storyline and everyone wants to, you know, the

719
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Speaker 1: Jags They've been going through it for it feels like

720
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: twenty years, where they're good for one year, then they're

721
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: just terrible again for the next ten years. But man,

722
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00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: get back to it. I forgot to even mention the

745
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: t boat experiment, which you know, a lot of people

746
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: laughed at. Defferent I was excited about that. I thought

747
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: it was smart from a business point of view. And

748
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Urban is coming from media, so he knows how the

749
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: media works. And uh, but just just to kind of

750
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: go back on it, like even how how how Urban

751
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: he's a great football coach as far as X and

752
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: o's and and building winners, but the other things outside

753
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: of that, like how he even left the previous programs

754
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: and the things that went on off the field, like

755
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: all those things matter, and like like I talked about

756
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: earlier with Belichick, like those players have to have some

757
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: buy in, like some legitimate buying, especially on a pro level.

758
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: You don't really have a choice in college, Like there's

759
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: so much power in control that that coach has. You

760
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: don't have a choice. And when you get to the pros,

761
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: it's different people, different pulling different levels and um, so

762
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: it's some different things that's going on. I think he'll struggle,

763
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I want to see Trevor Lawrence succeed.

764
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: He's been the golden boy to golden child from Bay One.

765
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a good kid. But it's it's

766
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: so much of it depends on what's going on around them.

767
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: So I don't like to overreact too much in the preseason,

768
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: but it's just looking ugly right now. Well, how long

769
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: do NFL coaches get our NFL players give coaches new

770
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: coaches before they've decided the coach has it or they don't. Um,

771
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, a lot of it depends on um

772
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: how like how how are you running? How consistent are you? Right? Like?

773
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: How consistent are you? Not only it's not based on

774
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: the results, it's really based on the process. And that's

775
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: kind of you know, cliche because I talked about before,

776
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: it's such a fine line between win and losing. So

777
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: you can have a five and eleven year, but if

778
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, okay, we're preparing to write where we're having

779
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: good practices. You know, guys that were hurt, you know,

780
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: they were held accountable for getting treatment or everybody's being

781
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: held to the same standard, just the strength and condition.

782
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Are they on the same page, Like how is everything

783
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: operating in the building, How is he running that ship?

784
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: And then how is he running the ship with players?

785
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: When things happen, people aren't playing well, when we lose

786
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: a close game, we get blown out, you know, all

787
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: these different things. You kind of have to build that

788
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: equity over time and um you know that that's kind

789
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: of how it's built with the players, and then different

790
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: players it is different. You know, for some guys may

791
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: have been in New England for the first eight years

792
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: of their career and then they come there. Some guys

793
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: it's their first experience in NFL, So you kind of

794
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: have to set and keep that tone with everybody. That's

795
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: it's a tough thing to do as a coach, you know,

796
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: because you're dealing with a lot of a lot of personalities,

797
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: a lot of type a person and a lot of

798
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, alpha and test so egos, and a lot

799
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: goes into massaging and managing that and uh so it's

800
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: definitely an art to it. It's more of an art

801
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: than than a science. Well, speaking of that's a great

802
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: segue to the last team, which we haven't spend too

803
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: much time on, but talk about a dumpster fire on

804
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: a train wreck that is headed for a nuclear waste facility,

805
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the Texas. If I'm a player on the Texans right now,

806
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: how do I have faith in anything about the organization

807
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: or what the future holds for that team? I mean

808
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to honestly just because of how like it

809
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been rand well from the top down, and you

810
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: had guys like you know when when Andrew I'm not

811
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: on dream sorry Andre Johnson speaks out like you know

812
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: it's you know it's bad, and he spoke out a

813
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: few months back, and you've heard, you know, it's been

814
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: world documented and how they've been running thing. Uh you

815
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: know coach Culley was putting a pitiful situation. Uh, NICKI seio,

816
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I feel like he's done the best he could with

817
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: what he was handed. Um. I don't think de Sean

818
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: Watson plays this year. Um. You do have Tyrod Taylor,

819
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: who's a good quarterback and was one of multiple starting jobs. Um,

820
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: and who can win ball games. Um, you know, you

821
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: still have some good players in the NFL UM and coaching.

822
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to getting there. Coach your asshol players are

823
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: gonna play their ass off. But the organization has been

824
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: it's just been piss poor um from from the beginning

825
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: to and it seemed like Simon season win total in

826
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Houston has said at four. You have been on this

827
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: under since the end of last season. Under four. Yeah,

828
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: three and fourteen, and it's pretty much everything. Derris just said,

829
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: it's like I was on this because I saw the

830
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: writing on the wall. I just looked at that roster

831
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: and I looked at their front office and I said,

832
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: they don't have a plan there. There is no plan

833
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: in this team. And I'm not heartbroken for the fans

834
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: of Houston. Okay, they had a nice little run there.

835
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: I think they won this division like three years in

836
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: a row, so they had their time. They're listening, Houston.

837
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: I would love to be hired if your guys m

838
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: there's just so much potential now because you guys are

839
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: going to suck for the next two to three years

840
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: no matter what. You have no money, you have no

841
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: cap space, you have no draft capital because Bill O'Brien

842
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: traded all away, so again, I'm to shoot on them

843
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: right now. I'm I'm down here right now, chat. We're

844
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: betting them week one. They're they're playing the Jags at home,

845
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: and I believe the Jags are getting all the money,

846
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: all the bets, everything, that's all. That's like one of

847
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: these things where they're a home doll plus three week one.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to shoot on them for the next ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely one of these things where I have

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Speaker 1: to separate myself from being a fan and just look

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Speaker 1: at the data, and man, it is ugly. It is

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Speaker 1: crazy how bad this team is. They literally have eight

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Speaker 1: running backs, all of whom you've heard of, but most

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Speaker 1: of them are probably about twenty five to thirty years old,

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Speaker 1: which is not that big of a deal, but it

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Speaker 1: just shows that this team is a structured right where

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Speaker 1: it's like, why do you guys have nine veteran running backs?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just draft one or two guys and

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Speaker 1: have one veteran in there show them the way. And

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Speaker 1: it's just a really weird, organized, structured team. So I'm

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Speaker 1: with there. So I love Tyrod Taylor. I just think

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Speaker 1: he's a constant pro. And it's again one of these

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Speaker 1: things were week one if I'm gonna take this shitty

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Speaker 1: ass roster, but it's Tyrod Taylor going again. It's a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and a rookie head coach against the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: week one, give me the plus three chat. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's one of these where I'm taking their season win

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Speaker 1: total under. But week one people take Houston plus three.

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Speaker 1: That's such an easy, easy bet Week one. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be sweating after week who that win total? They come

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Speaker 1: out want to know the same thing. The same thing

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Speaker 1: with Jags last year, Jags won first week and it's

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Speaker 1: a sick world, you Simon. I love this. I love

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Speaker 1: this idea. I feel like our best the first week

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Speaker 1: of the year, the five games that we ultimately decided

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Speaker 1: to choose, it's gonna be like so Jexans, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the Falcons, It's gonna be it's gonna be Detroit,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Bears at plus seven against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't know if now

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's coming for that ass dude, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to with that. That's why they're starting Andy Dalton. I know,

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Speaker 1: by the way, thank God trust Fields weak too to

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Speaker 1: keep the future alive. Uh. All right, I think we nailed.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got everything we need for the a

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Speaker 1: f C South that Texas are gonna stink. But we're

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Speaker 1: still gonna bet On in week one. None of us

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Speaker 1: believe in Urban Meyer, but we're hopeful for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: We all love the Colts over nine plus one fifty

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Speaker 1: to win the division. Uh. And Darius has bet Simon

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Speaker 1: seven and a half million dollars that the Titans are

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Speaker 1: gonna go over nine wins this year. So I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. Uh. I do want

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Speaker 1: to thank NFL veteran current host of the Man to

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Speaker 1: Man podcast with fellow defensive back an Joine Bethea, uh

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Speaker 1: Darius Butler Yukon's finest thanks for joining us on the

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Speaker 1: Favorites podcast for Simon Hunter. I am Sad Milman. Download

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