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Speaker 1: It's a big college football weekend coming up, championship weekend

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Speaker 1: college football, and the Bear is with us for a

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Speaker 1: segment he never asked for.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to your bear from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: And is he knew the hotel you were staying in

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Speaker 1: just by the drapes, I believe, But good morning Bear.

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Speaker 3: Good morning? Yeah, the hotel, I mean the segment I

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Speaker 3: never asked for, but also the segment I never really

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Speaker 2: So you need us more than we need you. Is

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Speaker 2: that what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely, I need affirmation, and I need to be

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Speaker 3: amongst friends, and I need comfort. I find it here

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Speaker 3: every Friday morning and every Monday morning as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you find it for me. Do you feel the

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Speaker 1: same from Izzy at some pimet is he gets on

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Speaker 1: you a little bit?

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Speaker 3: You know that's okay. Any good friendship, any good family,

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Speaker 3: has a little bit of bickering and keeping people in

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Speaker 3: check and keeping them in line.

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Speaker 2: So it's okay if I say, really twice a week

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Speaker 2: with the Bear.

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Speaker 3: As long as I'm getting paid the same, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter to me.

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Speaker 4: Is yes, Now there's the point of contention. You're getting

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Speaker 4: paid Listen.

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Speaker 1: If you want to Yeah, zero, right, I take you

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Speaker 1: five days a week at that rate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you excited for most? We'll get

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: And I have a similar take here on the non

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Speaker 1: Power five schools getting into the playoffs, So we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that a second. But from this weekend, what are

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Speaker 1: you most excited to see?

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Speaker 3: For me?

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Speaker 2: It's Indiana Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: What a game man, it is because I'm looking forward

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Speaker 3: to seeing the passion and the excitement in that building.

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Speaker 3: Indiana is never going to play, in my opinion, a

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Speaker 3: bigger game. I mean, I guess they can reach called

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Speaker 3: footballchampionship game ever than they would, but you have an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to go thirteen and zero, beat Ohio State, win

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten championship, and enter the playoff as a

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Speaker 3: number one team in the country. Ye that's pretty impressive

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Speaker 3: and pretty unprecedented for anything Indiana has ever accomplished in

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Speaker 3: football history, being that they were the losingest Power five

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Speaker 3: school when Kurt Signetti took over. So, and I'm also

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Speaker 3: interested on the flip side, how does Ohio State handle

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Speaker 3: this game? Can they get back up for it? Last week?

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Speaker 3: You put every egg in the basket emotionally to try

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Speaker 3: and beat and that we're losing streak to Michigan and

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Speaker 3: the next week you know me, well, you know you

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Speaker 3: have an idle week coming up, win or lose tomorrow

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Speaker 3: in the College Football playoff to defend your title. And

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Speaker 3: I know they haven't won a Big Ten championship since

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Speaker 3: what twenty twenty, but it's kind of a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a difficult tweener spot for the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 1: Mike Ye, what a great point by Bear where we

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Speaker 1: have the Ohio State buck guys playing in a Big

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Speaker 1: Ten championship game to be the number one seeds in

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Speaker 1: the tournament and it might be a letdown game for

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Speaker 1: the letdown because they played.

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Speaker 4: Michigan less their emotional already gone, who cares game.

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Speaker 3: I know I'll probably get yelled at for saying that too,

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Speaker 3: and Poopo in the no, I think it might be right.

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Speaker 3: It's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you ask Ryan Day which game do

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Speaker 2: you want to win?

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Speaker 1: The game against Michigan or the following week against Indiana

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship.

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Speaker 2: He'll tell you Michigan. It's a leftdown spot for.

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Speaker 3: Him and everybody on that roster would say Michigan.

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Speaker 1: That is crazy. Can Indiana beat Ohio State. Forget about

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Speaker 1: the letdown for a second. Can Indiana beat Ohio State?

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Speaker 1: Can anyone beat Ohio State?

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Speaker 3: I think people, I think there are teams that can

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Speaker 3: beat Ohio State. Yes, absolutely. I don't know if Indiana

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Speaker 3: done a really good job, and they haven't allowed more

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Speaker 3: the one positive one, the one they have many positives,

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Speaker 3: but having Kaylee leaders like Caleb Downs and Rvel Reevees

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Speaker 3: through the wars, I would be surprised if that letdown

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Speaker 3: theory really materialized. I think once you get out there,

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Speaker 3: you kind of feel the juice and things kind of

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Speaker 3: kind of change. And I do like I've been Ohio

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Speaker 3: State when FANDUL had to look ahead line a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks back at minus three and a half. It's

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Speaker 3: still only minus four so I would recommend a bet

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Speaker 3: there and try to take the Blue Books money there.

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Speaker 1: We were talking right before we started about the nonpower

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Speaker 1: five teams. When you have a playoff of twelve teams,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be teams upset here, whether it's Miami, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: perhaps both. But no one could sit here and convince me,

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Speaker 1: no committee, nobody that James Madison has a better chance

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Speaker 1: or Oklahoma or whoever you want to pick there.

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Speaker 2: So what are we doing with the non power five teams?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why are we why do we feel some sort of

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Speaker 1: need to include them in the college football playoffs?

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Speaker 3: I think people the fans out there that clamor for

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Speaker 3: this Cinderella story without understanding that FBS college football, who

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Speaker 3: are power for group of football is much different than

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Speaker 3: the NCAA basketball tournament, where you you can have one

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Speaker 3: player carry a team five on five basketball in a

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Speaker 3: tournament and make a make a run like a Butler

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Speaker 3: or a Virginia Tech uh and win some games and

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Speaker 3: get some favorable matchups along the way. You hit, you

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Speaker 3: hit threes, and you make our own. That's not gonna

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Speaker 3: the gap between the teams is only getting bigger in

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Speaker 3: the nil and portlier where these big game teams are

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Speaker 3: kind of pillaging and jerry picking and plucking the best

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Speaker 3: players from those group of five teams roster. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: Tulane already lost to Ole Miss by thirty something points.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: James Madison lost by two scores to Louisville. If there

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Speaker 3: is a threshold for these power four teams to get

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Speaker 3: into the playoff, there should be a threshold for this

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Speaker 3: group of facty Like if you are a Boise team

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Speaker 3: from last year which was legitimately good and a legitimate

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Speaker 3: over a two thousand and fourteen or whatever the heck

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Speaker 3: year that was. If your UCF in twenty seventeen and

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Speaker 3: you're undefeated, if you're Cincinnati, the Cincinnati team that made

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Speaker 3: the fourteen playoff, if you're a legit good team by

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Speaker 3: all means you've earned it. But just to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: we're the they're the highest ranked group of five team,

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Speaker 3: let's put him in and they're ranked twenty fifth or

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Speaker 3: not even ranked, right, and that then that's a that

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Speaker 3: that that's an issue, Like like you said it, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have in. Look, the ACC could get a champion

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Speaker 3: in Duke or Virginia that has no chance either. But

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Speaker 3: if you're if you're going to guarantee a spot to

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Speaker 3: a team that has no chance to win, and hey, yeah,

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Speaker 3: North Texas James Madison, Julane, congratulations, you're in. Your reward

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Speaker 3: is going to Austin being a twenty four point favorite,

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Speaker 3: twenty four point dog rather against Oregon? Why ball Miami

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Speaker 3: or Notre Dame could win the national championship or get

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Speaker 3: to the national championship game. If the goal of the

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Speaker 3: playoff is to get the best twelve teams or the

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Speaker 3: best at large teams in there, like, what are we

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Speaker 3: doing trying to make people feel good about themselves.

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Speaker 2: We're not doing it the right way, that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So, Bear, if I made you the cizar of

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Speaker 5: college football, how.

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Speaker 2: Do you fix it?

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Speaker 5: Because the teams like Boise State will get left out

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Speaker 5: even though they should have been in, you know, even

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Speaker 5: though they should be in like last year.

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Speaker 2: But then you look at this year and you go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is not it.

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Speaker 3: So where do you put that threshold? How would you

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Speaker 3: make it? I think you make it like top fifteen

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Speaker 3: or something like that. If you're you're a top fifteen team.

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Speaker 3: Maybe top twelve was a little a little excessive because

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Speaker 3: then you have to worry about upsets and conference championship

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Speaker 3: games and maybe a team that might not have gotten

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Speaker 3: in getting an AQ. So I think if you're if

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Speaker 3: you meet that, then by all means you go, you

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Speaker 2: So the committee's fought. The committee's top.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen is what you're saying, Right, that's it, and yese

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Speaker 1: that way right?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Barrett, the game, you're at the Indiana Ohio State game.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious a couple of things. One, I thought it

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Speaker 4: was funny that you mentioned that Ohio State hasn't won

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Speaker 4: it since twenty twenty year, hasn't been there since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Indiana never, they haven't.

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Speaker 4: Been in this game, so they have that little bit

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Speaker 4: of an edge that Ohio State can't recreate. But I'm curious.

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Speaker 4: I know it's Indianapolis, I know the turn. The game's

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Speaker 4: been there since it's inception, but any extra juice with

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Speaker 4: Indiana there home feel to it at all.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a home field, but I think the

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Speaker 3: energy around the Circle City here and the energy around

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Speaker 3: a first time or in this game has given it

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Speaker 3: some extra juice. And the Indiana story is really captured

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Speaker 3: kind of college football. And there's we talked. I didn't

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Speaker 3: even mention we talked about number one playoffs, seed, Big

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Speaker 3: Ten Championship, it stake. I think the Heisman Trophy might

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Speaker 3: be at stake as well. I think if any I

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Speaker 3: know you're gonna be very happy to hear me say that.

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Speaker 3: I think if Indiana wins, for Fernando Mendoza is going

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Speaker 3: to win the Heisman Trophy. And that's incredible to incredible

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Speaker 3: to say the quarterback of Indiana is the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 3: favorite and what they win, he's going to win it.

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Speaker 3: And then if he does, if Ida doesn't win, he

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Speaker 3: wants him to win it so bad. Laws I've got

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Speaker 3: I've got a buddy who has him to win the

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Speaker 3: Heisman one hundred and fifty to one. I don't even

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Speaker 3: have a vote to be able to rig that for

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Speaker 3: him to give him the like I've got to vote

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Speaker 3: like Fernando Mendoza one, Joe Blow East Texas to my

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Speaker 3: Stu Gott's three, like they get completely grew up the ballot.

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Speaker 3: I can't even do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would, Oh, I absolutely would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's got a price for a million dollar man.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, blows. Season has not been that good.

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Speaker 3: Bear Bear.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at the odds for the Heisman on FanDuel

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Speaker 5: Mendoz is the favorite at plus one sixty five, Julin

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Speaker 5: Saane's third at plus one ninety five, and then Diego

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Speaker 5: Pavia is second at plus one seventy five. With Vanderbilt

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Speaker 5: off this week, what is the path for Pavia to

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Speaker 5: win the Heisman?

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Speaker 3: I think Ohio State winning kind of a whole hum

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Speaker 3: type of game. Are or are any of you Heisman voters?

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Speaker 2: I want to ask I first, Yeah, yeah, my gosh,

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Speaker 2: just Levatard's dad.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad he's got one and I don't. And I

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Speaker 4: We're already saying it's gonna be bullshit when Fernando doesn't

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Speaker 2: All he's frustrated, he's not getting to the playoffs. Who

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Speaker 2: So why is it good enough to build a Heisman resume?

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Speaker 3: Because he's he is, in my opinion, the most valuable

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Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is their offense. I mean, who wasn't that.

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Speaker 4: I'm already preparing myself for him, for Fernando not to

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Speaker 3: Me down easy Indiana wins. He's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: That's it, Just go win. Yep, Bear, we haven't talked

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Speaker 5: We haven't talked to you since the latest rankings came out.

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Speaker 3: And that's suddenly he's just beautiful. I can't wait. I

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Speaker 2: He's my friend, you fucking asshole.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I think I am I am hated the most,

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Speaker 2: It's good. Thank you for responding to Phinney.

440
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: By the way, nobody ever responds to Finn finishes barking away.

441
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: Nobody ever barks back. Thank you, Bear.

442
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: I me ow back to one of my cats cowers downstairs,

443
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: like like they'll they'll like run downstairs by themselves, and like, well,

444
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: he'll know where we are, and and he'll just be

445
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 3: going at the top of his lungs and I'll like

446
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: I'll cower back at him, and we have this this conversation.

447
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: I like animals more than I do people, So I'm happy.

448
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 2: To have your name is Bear. Yes, I think that's

449
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: a dead giveaway. AO, yes, go ahead.

450
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 5: Fair for what feels like the the fourth or fifth

451
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: time Penn State has has their guy and uh, they're they're.

452
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: Circling the meeting.

453
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 5: They're circling now on Iowa State's head coach Matt Campbell.

454
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 5: Is this the one that they finally get across the

455
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 5: finish line?

456
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: I sure hope so for their sake, Yes, yeah, if

457
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: you can't land Matt Campbell finally to to leave Aims

458
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: when he's had opportunities to leave in the past, and

459
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: that kind of coming off there their worst year in

460
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: a while. I would say, like, I think he's a

461
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: great coach, and the fact that he took Iowa State

462
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: the conference championship games and had them in h in

463
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: a New Year's Six Bowl, I mean, that's a that's

464
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: a hell of a hell of a job that he

465
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: did there. And I think the type of mentality, the

466
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: type of appearance, that type of team is what Craft

467
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 3: in the Penn State brass is kind of looking for,

468
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: like a physical, blue collar type team, kind of representative

469
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: of that area. So yeah, I at this point, I

470
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: would be surprised if this ultimately didn't happen.

471
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: Bear, how good would you really feel about Miami winning

472
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: multiple games in a row against good opponents?

473
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 3: Pretty good?

474
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 2: Really?

475
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: Yes? If and here's why if they get in, they're

476
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: going to be the eleven seed, the sixth seed right now?

477
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 3: Was Ole Miss, Yeah he doesn't. Adwayne Kiffen and Charlie

478
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 3: Wise Junior came back in and stayed that's.

479
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Speaker 1: Fine even with Lane, that's a team um can be obviously, Well.

480
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: They can't beat anybody, that's the whole thing. It's just

481
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 4: like they seem to play down to non ranked opponents,

482
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: So why would you expect them to just play to

483
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: their best against ranked opponents.

484
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Not sure.

485
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: Ole Missus defense is ass like it's good homes offenses,

486
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: the old mister defense is that. And then so assume

487
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: you go to Ole miss You'll be probably a slight favorite,

488
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: maybe even more or less slight favorite actually on their

489
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: home field. If you can win that game, you're going

490
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: to face the three seed, which might be Indiana on

491
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: a neutral field. Like, are you gonna be scared to

492
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: face Indiana? That's a great pass for Miami, No, great opportunity.

493
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: And then I'm just scared if I was Miami facing Indiana.

494
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: No.

495
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: But he's just making the point that Miami could win

496
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: that game, and obviously they could.

497
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 4: Right, But that's my whole point is just like and

498
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: this is just I'm not trying to get into the

499
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Speaker 4: heads of fans. You believe what you want to believe,

500
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: but when you've seen it so constantly, like the idea

501
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: of winning big games in a row, when this team

502
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: can't even win like mediocre games that you know are

503
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 4: meaningful to you, you know, are the difference between you

504
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: getting into a conference championship and avoiding all these arguments

505
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: for getting into the playoffs, and you lose those games.

506
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 4: So it's not like, yes, they you know, maybe they

507
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: play up two opponents that are ranked, but the fact

508
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: that they show you over and over again that they

509
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: don't really play to their strengths for four quarters and

510
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: dominate decent to good teams, then I just don't see that.

511
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: You know, I don't see it. But that's just me

512
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: being completely neutral in the situation.

513
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's totally fair. And I think that was

514
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why the committee dropped them as

515
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: far as they did after losing that SMU game, is

516
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: because they because that was kind of the them o

517
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: that you'll beat Notre Dame in Week one and you'll

518
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: you'll get up for a ranked South Florida team and

519
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: then Florida, you're in state rival, you'll get Florida State,

520
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: who was in the top ten. I think at the

521
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: time like you'll get up for those and then you'll

522
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: have one of the dumbass losses the point of the

523
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 3: ar I think that's why they knocked them for that,

524
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: and they said we need to see more consistency, and

525
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: I think they kind of in a very Miami like run.

526
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: They did that after the SMU loss. So I think

527
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Speaker 3: I think the fact that if Notre Name gets in,

528
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: they could do the same exact thing in that position

529
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: as well.

530
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: They'd be crazy if they want to nownational championship before

531
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 4: every winning an ACC title.

532
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: It could happen. I mean, not unlikely, but it could happen.

533
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 5: How much do you think the problem with people not

534
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 5: wanting Miami in is because they think Miami can actually

535
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: win the national Championship? Because I think that's where me

536
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: and Steve Gotts are.

537
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's an interesting question I have. I haven't thought

538
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: about that.

539
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 5: I I think yesterday we only had five teams that

540
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: could actually win the title, and Notre Dame and Miami

541
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: were both to I.

542
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: Don't think Ohio State's afraid of Miami. I don't think

543
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: George is afraid of my.

544
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Own Ohio State and Georgia Alabama. Those teams are different.

545
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: But I think maybe they would not want Miami or

546
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

547
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: In the Oregon can win the national title.

548
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: Oregon could.

549
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: Oregon's defense is really good, and there's a good chance

550
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: they're gonna have both the Coreyan More and Gary Bryant

551
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: their wide receivers back, and their offensive line will be

552
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: healthy by the time they have to play a playoff

553
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: game is a gagerous.

554
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Team of the teams who are currently in the playoffs,

555
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: how many teams do you think can actually win the

556
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: national championship?

557
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia, Okay, check time out,

558
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: lose to this year Indiana? Huh?

559
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: Where was that game?

560
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: The game? Was the game? Was it altin? Yes? Huh?

561
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Just asking questions, That's what I do. You're not asking.

562
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: I know I'm going totally against the head to head

563
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 3: argument here, but I think in a a playoff environment,

564
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: I think, Okay, I would like Oregon this time around.

565
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: It was a quiz. It wasn't a question, It's an opinion.

566
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: But you bring up an interesting point, like I don't

567
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: want to be like that conspiracy theorist guy because I

568
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: am not that at all. Yeah, but if we're sitting

569
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: here Sunday morning or my Sunday afternoon by when the

570
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: rankings come out and b YU does lose and Notre

571
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: Dame gets in over Miami, it makes you kind of

572
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: think in one like the first time ever they have

573
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: an honor to head to head between two teams with

574
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: the same identical record, and Team AB Team B it

575
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: makes you wonder if there is some sentiment anti Miami

576
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: sentiment in the room and a pro Notre Dame type

577
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: feel or agenda, it's only natural that you're gonna go there.

578
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna.

579
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get in because I just

580
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: want to hear you can play in the entire playoff.

581
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: That's all.

582
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: And if you're gonna go conspiracy guy, route, you got

583
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: to close the curtain, be more in the dark. You're

584
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: way too much in the sunlight right now. You can't

585
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: be conspiracy.

586
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm not conspiracy theory guy. Because people

587
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: talk about all that they want to get conferences in

588
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: and whatever. The conferences aren't even mentioned when when you're

589
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: you're breaking team by team down in this in this exercise.

590
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: But like that's gonna be out there if that happens,

591
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: there's gonna there's gonna be That conversation is of course

592
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: an anti Miami sentiment from a bunch of elderly administrators

593
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: and ex coaches in that room who may be a

594
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: be all. It's Notre Dame. We have to get Notre Dame,

595
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: and it's the Notre Dame brand. Notre Dame has to

596
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: be better. Yeah, that's gonna happen, if that, if they

597
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: if they, if they choose, if they choose path B

598
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: as opposed to path A, path B all fours. Path

599
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: B is a very rocky, dangerous road that could have

600
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: a trip over a bridge that currently collapses on them,

601
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: So be a very bad precedent being set fair.

602
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: I know you're not a conspiracy theory guy after you

603
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: just said that, but we have one that we were

604
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: workshopping earlier this week. Texas Tech should throw its game

605
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: against BYU.

606
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Ah.

607
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: Yes, that way you get another big twelve team in

608
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: for a bigger payout. You lose your first round by,

609
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: but more importantly, you eliminate two of those teams from

610
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 5: the field that could most likely beat you anyways, and

611
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: instead of a first round by you add back to

612
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: your economy, you get a home playoff game, right, and

613
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: the team that you play in that home playoff game

614
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: is most likely a Virginia JMU, a TWU lane any likes.

615
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: That, even more teams that can't win a national championship.

616
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Yes, that you can wind up with like like do

617
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: a group of five like like b YU, like like

618
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: like half the field, like more than half the field,

619
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: would like have the zero chants of winning multiple games

620
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: that guarantee.

621
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: This has been discussed in the Texas Tech practices guaranteed literally.

622
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, with without a doubt Joey MacGuire and the

623
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: thirty million dollars whatever they spent on their offers. And

624
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: you know what our goal was to win it, to

625
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: win this conference and bring a conference title of Texas Tech.

626
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: But you know what, we're going to tank the.

627
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Game smart play easier Field. I mean, yeah, I.

628
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: Can't see that happening at all. The idea is very

629
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: unique and interesting, but at the same time, here Texas Tech,

630
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: we're talking about Indiana. I mean maybe Texas Tech will

631
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: will will have more opportunities to do it, But to

632
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: kind of be the poster child for at portal and

633
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: spending money and going all out and being aggressive and

634
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: embracing this and to not take full advantage of it.

635
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: I happy they are let by you went that tournament.

636
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: You're you're not hearing us. They're giving themselves a better

637
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: shot of winning at all. Of what's wrong with it?

638
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Smart any play Texas.

639
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Tech you got you guys are freaking sick.

640
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: You would agree, though, if you put pride aside, it

641
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: is the smarter thing to do.

642
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: You can't put side.

643
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: It's like the week seventeen NFL, like, you know what,

644
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna We're gonna bench everybody, like what the Chiefs

645
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: did with the Broncos, with the Broncos last year, and

646
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: by the week of the ring seas like like here's

647
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: Carson went silly, ladies and gentlemen, We've we've clinched our spot.

648
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: You know what. We don't want whomever in the playoff

649
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: because they just we're gonna have the just the Broncos winning.

650
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: Let's get them in.

651
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: If both teams don't get in, they're gonna put Miami

652
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: in Notre Dame in a ball game together, right, Yeah.

653
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: If you talk about conspiracy theories and people talking about

654
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: this being rigged, like if if they ever wanted to

655
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: like give a sign that it is rigged, then you're

656
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: absolutely putting Miami in Notre Dame together in a first

657
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: It will be the highest rated game of the entire

658
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: college football Playoff, including the championship game.

659
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: Except if I'm a player who got screwed over in

660
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: a national championship attempt, I'm bailing on this on this game,

661
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: Like this game.

662
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Is not gonna mean anything.

663
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: Oh, if Miami wins again, what are they gonna say,

664
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: I told you we should have been in there.

665
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna be super frustrated. I don't know if I

666
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: like it.

667
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were talking about like actually in

668
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: the in the playoff.

669
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: I would. I would.

670
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: I would put them on the same field playing each

671
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: other in the first round. If you can figure that out,

672
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: because I agree with you, it would be the highest

673
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: rating game. I'm saying that both teams missed the playoffs.

674
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Do you think a ball would take Miami and Notre

675
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: Dame to play one another?

676
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh? I think they would try. But but I do

677
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: think at the same time, what is he said, like,

678
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: there's no chance you're you're going to see Rubin Bain

679
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: and Jeremiah Love and those guys play that game. That's

680
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: and that's where we are now in the sport. If

681
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: it's not a playoff game, you're going to see these

682
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: guys who are going to be Heisman type or a

683
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: first round pick for a top five picks there, they're

684
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: going to sit out. So you know, the only way

685
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: we're going to get that is in a in a

686
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: real playoff game that actually matters.

687
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: They are going to run through the games with you

688
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: real quickly here and tell us, tell us your thoughts.

689
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: It's a fun weekend coming up this weekend. It starts tonight.

690
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: So we'll start at Taylor. You have the lines here.

691
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: We'll start with the Sun Belt championship. James Madison has

692
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: taken on Troy here. I'm not sure what the line

693
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: is on Fandel Taylor, give them the line and bear

694
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: make the pick here.

695
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: It's JAMU minus twenty three and a half.

696
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see this game being close. The second

697
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: best team in the Sun Belt is Old Ominion. They're

698
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: the one conference that's still has divisions, and Troy was

699
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: the champion of the weaker division. Old Dominion beat them

700
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: by like thirty earlier this year. I can't see this

701
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: game being very close.

702
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Tulane North Texas. What is the line according to Fandil Taylor, So.

703
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 5: It's North Texas minus two and a half. Both coaches

704
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: leaving after after this conference championship leaving?

705
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: They are they both coaching in the game.

706
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Yes, they're yesterday, they are. They are both coaching, and

707
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: I think isn't summer all and more? Aren't they guaranteed

708
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: to stay on through the playoff? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, win

709
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: winner as the trip to Autsin or Lubbock, and then

710
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: and then they're done in ten days. Yes, what I

711
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: keeping I keep going back. I keep going back and

712
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: forth because if you go look look at these short

713
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: favorites and conference championship games like history three points or

714
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: fewer favorites, those teams are fourteen and twenty four and

715
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: in the group of five, they're like three and eleven.

716
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: Like more often than not, these short dogs win outright.

717
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: And you got Tulane on its home field, with the

718
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: quarterback who's mobile, a good running game, I think that

719
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: they can kind of play some complimentary football and keep

720
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: that high powered North Texas offense off the field. So

721
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: I want to I want to say Tulane does get

722
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: the small, minor upset on their home field against that

723
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: high powered North Texas offense.

724
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: Taylor likes to consider himself a short Doug Drew mess Tomaker.

725
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Is this guy getting screwed out of Heisman talk? No?

726
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: No, okay, no, look look at their schedule. That's the thing.

727
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: At least at least we know Tulane has a little

728
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: bit of like backclass. I mean, they did beat Duke.

729
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: I know all miss blew them out. They did beat Memphis.

730
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: They have beaten some teams in the past, North Texas's

731
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: schedules and embarrassment and they got they got destroyed myself far.

732
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me two lane plus the other short

733
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: number there.

734
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Saturday. You have the uh,

735
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: you have the Big twelve championship game. It's Texas Tech.

736
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: It is b y U. This is a tricky game

737
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: because Texas Tech might just allow me beat him. A

738
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: lot of failed the red zone attempts in this one.

739
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're you know. I think I need to

740
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: get on the get on the horn with Jule Meguire

741
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: right now and find out and make sure that that

742
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: Aron Moreton is gonna play in their entire defensive line.

743
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: It's gonna play or are we gonna or are we gonna?

744
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: Are we gonna? H We're gonna tank this to help

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: the league.

746
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: It's twelve and a half on VANDUL. Take the tanking

747
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: out of it.

748
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: For a minute, I laid it. I don't see any

749
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: reason why this game will be different than the first

750
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: the first meeting, which was a twenty nine to seven

751
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Texas Tech win, and it could have been worse. I

752
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: think Tech had like five drives inside the thirty that

753
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: didn't result in touchdowns three short. This very easily could

754
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: have been forty two seven. And I'm not sure if

755
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: BYU is best wide receiver Chase Roberts is gonna play.

756
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: He heard a hamstring a couple weeks back against Cincinnati,

757
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: didn't play last week. I'm assuming they held him out

758
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: in hopes that he'd be ready for this week. So

759
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: if he can't go, that is a major major loss

760
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: for a BYU offense. That anytime you've got two teams

761
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: that kind of play the same style offensively and the

762
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: one team clearly has the better players, he got to

763
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: go with the team with the better players.

764
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Georgia two and a half Alabama SEC Championship game. What

765
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: a great game.

766
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: It is a great game. I played under twenty four

767
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: and a half in the first half as my bet

768
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: for this game. I think if you look at the

769
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: first meeting, Georgia in the second half kind of figured

770
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: Alabama out, didn't do anything. Georgia's defense has gotten better.

771
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: We've seen Tys Simpsons level really drop lately. Offensively, they

772
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: have not been good, and Georgia's to be without their

773
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: center Drew Bobo and without him last week against Georgia Tech,

774
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: they really struggled moving the ball. So I think we're

775
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna see a slow start to this game, kind of

776
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: a feeling out period. I played under twenty four and

777
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: a half. Wouldn't surprise me to see Alabama Polia the

778
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: little upset here because I think Georgia is one of

779
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: those things. Well, I think Georgia is good. I think

780
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: people you look at some of their results, they haven't

781
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: exactly been mega mega convincing right in quite a few

782
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: instances this.

783
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: Year ACC championship game. This is gonna be fun. Of course,

784
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: we all have this before the season.

785
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Virginia in Duke natural, Virginia is a three and a

786
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: half point favorite.

787
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: Do you like you well, I'm not allowed to bet

788
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: on Duke ever. Again, I've made that my motto for

789
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: the year. Matt Manny's number has been blocked at eras

790
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: from my even though he didn't come out in campaign

791
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: from my having to make the playoff this week, I

792
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: did see that, so maybe that might allow allow a

793
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: one time text. Virginia. They dominated the first game. I

794
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: think people maybe are sleeping on them a little bit

795
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: in terms of kind of the especial year that they've

796
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: had with with Morris at quarterback. I'll uh, I'll lay

797
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: the points here with Virginia just because I'm not allowed

798
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: to bet on Duke again.

799
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: I'll be sleeping through that game.

800
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: Well, I'll be I'll be on the sidelines here at

801
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: Lucas Oil because it's going on at the same time

802
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: as the Big Ten game.

803
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: What a great name for an offensive aligneman, Drew Bobo.

804
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I've just been obsessed with the

805
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: name ever since. That's the son of Mike Bobo.

806
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: Mike Bobo's son.

807
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: Yep, how about that? Yes, over Georgia quarterback. This guy

808
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: was only a three star recruit and yet he's the

809
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: son of Wow. That's crazy people have what they're talking about.

810
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: Man, I mean imagine that. Yeah, the son of Georgia's

811
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator is their starting center. Big uh bear.

812
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: When we talked to you three times next week, when

813
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: we talked to you, Will Will, University of my Will,

814
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Miami and notre Day being the college football playoff one

815
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: one of them, none of them, both of them.

816
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: What do you think one of them?

817
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: One of them?

818
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: Even though even though I think there is a there's

819
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: going to be a conversation that can be had if

820
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm wrong about the SEC Championship game and Georgia does

821
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: win that game kind of by multiple scores. I think

822
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: that picking up that third loss, despite it being in

823
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: like a free role type environment, maybe the committee says,

824
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, they lost three Wow. One of those losses

825
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 3: was to Florida State five and seven and Miami. That's

826
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: the worst loss of any of the contenders. Miami did

827
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: beat them. I mean, maybe Alabama suddenly is third in

828
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: that order, and it will be wild to see them

829
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: knock a team that played in the SEC Championship out

830
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: of a spot. But they want to make they want

831
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: to value these conference championship games. But I think if

832
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: you're looking at power ratings, Miami and Notre Dame both

833
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: power rate higher than alib Alabama hasn't played good football.

834
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: In a month, right, I like to check or theory

835
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: where you've got Miami in Notre Dame left and they

836
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 4: announced Miami and they just do a sounder of ah

837
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: because somebody felt out of door and it's Notre Dame following.

838
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: It's still frustrated that the notion that we have to

839
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: let like, you know, fucking Tulane in and that means

840
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: these schools aren't going.

841
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: To get in.

842
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: Is infuriating to me. The Alabama Miami not dare.

843
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: Go for it.

844
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Yay, we should be doing everything we can to get

845
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Miami Notre Dame in Alabama in, but we should be

846
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: bending over to get fucking Delane in.

847
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Goddamn right?

848
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: You you think ESPN wants fucking Virginia and Tulane in

849
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: North Texas in God no, right, that is want Miami

850
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: Notre Dame in Alabama. Yes, they don't give a shit

851
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: about conference that. They want a big name, they want

852
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: an alumni base, they want ratings. Yes, yes, people are

853
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: gonna be turning Oregon North Texas off in the second quarter.

854
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Yes, and you picked Ohio State earlier just so.

855
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: I do think Ohio State wins, which is the better team?

856
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: I bet? I bet the my and then Diego Papia

857
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: wins the Heisman Trophy and it is he and is

858
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: he will never talk to me again.

859
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: Only twice a week, three times next week though, yes

860
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: four if I could do it.

861
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: Enjoyed, Enjoy Championship weekend. My friend, you are the greatest.

862
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: We appreciate you very much as a fun weekend for Bear.

863
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: He loves this weekend.

864
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: Man, it's great. I can't I can't wait till Sunday

865
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: afternoon for the I will be I will be a wall,

866
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: I will be gone. If somehow Miami doesn't get in.

867
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm expecting you to be carrying one of the field

868
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: goal posts down the street after Indiana wins that chance.

869
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: I'll do my I'll try and do my best and

870
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: get you a piece of it.

871
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you Sunday afternoon.

872
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, by all means, let's do it.

873
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: That's a good weekend, buddy.

874
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: You two guys