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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharp or Square, presented by a hard rock

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Speaker 1: bet We are part of the Volume podcast network Business

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Speaker 1: the Betting Show, the number one betting show. It makes

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Speaker 1: the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Millman and I'm joined as.

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Speaker 1: Always by my co host, my bff, my companion, my

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Speaker 1: compadre professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Hell oh so I'm in Chad. Are we doing, brother dude.

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Speaker 1: So at the end of our show on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about favorites dominating, and it feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like they are picking up where they ended

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Speaker 1: last season. They were winning at such a rate last

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Speaker 1: year that the biggest sportsbook operators in the world, in

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Speaker 1: their earnings calls in the second in the third and

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the year had to reduce their revenue

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Speaker 1: projections because of what they described as customer friendly outcomes.

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Speaker 1: It means the favorites are winning too much, right, and

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Speaker 1: that means the public is winning too much because all

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Speaker 1: the big favorites are covering and winning outright. So r

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Speaker 1: pal Evan Abrams, greatest researcher in the world, had a

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Speaker 1: tweet on I don't know Sunday night Monday morning. The

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Speaker 1: favorites who closed at more than four are twelve straight

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Speaker 1: up this season, sixty four and seven. Since Week thirteen

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Speaker 1: of last year, paves of six plus points are forty

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Speaker 1: seven and four in that span. A reminder, over this

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Speaker 1: past weekend, the four point favorites were San Francisco one,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore one, Detroit one, Buffalo one, Rams one. By the way,

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Speaker 1: those teams all covered as well. The two that didn't

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Speaker 1: cover but still one with the Cowboys and Cardinals, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals who gave it away in the final five minute.

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Speaker 1: So it's why we added Simon that money line round

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Speaker 1: robin for favorites. The dogs can't win, they can barely cover.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't change, you don't evolve, right, and

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Speaker 1: we evolve, Simon. Do you want to know how we're

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Speaker 1: going to prove it this week?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to you showing me Choed.

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Speaker 2: It's our Tuesday show. We're going to review the entire slate.

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Speaker 1: We will have a battle, Simon, a battle of perception

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Speaker 1: versus reality. Now that we have two weeks of games,

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Speaker 1: let's get after it.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: You can get all the shows at Sharper Square on

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Speaker 1: I look Thursday Night at Miami at Buffalo Buffalo a

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Speaker 1: twelve and a half point favorite. I think the theme

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Speaker 1: for this episode really is perception and reality, old school

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Speaker 1: old school philosophy versus reality. Old school reality is you

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Speaker 1: bet the dogs of more than twelve points in a

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Speaker 1: division game. The reality, thanks to Killer Sports, dogs in

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Speaker 1: those spots are forty four percent against the spreads in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. We avoided it last week and ignoring the

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Speaker 1: Browns in the Ravens game. The question is not do

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Speaker 1: we bet the Dolphins? The question is are the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: so bad we would bet against them in this spot that,

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Speaker 1: to me, all of a sudden becomes the question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And again it's a game that I'm only going to

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Speaker 4: be on one side. People know my stance on Swam

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Speaker 4: with Tea. I'm just going to keep fading them every week.

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Speaker 4: I just until a change happens, right until they fire

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Speaker 4: the head coach in GM, which I think is just

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Speaker 4: it's needed. There's just some of these organizations. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we'll go through it today. But like you're two weeks in,

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Speaker 4: what do you think is really going to change?

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Speaker 4: You kind of know with some of these teams, just

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Speaker 4: the way it started and the way the vibes are.

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Speaker 4: So Miami's just a team that at fourteen fourteen and

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Speaker 4: like the Joe public, I'll throw it in my teaser

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Speaker 3: So, like we just said, Chalk has been winning in

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Speaker 4: Five years ago. I would loved the Dolphins in the spot.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be a huge need for the book.

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Speaker 4: And like Chad's saying, no one's gonna be betting Miami here,

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Speaker 4: like this is such a Miami number, of Miami spot.

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Speaker 4: But we've seen these Thursday games they tilt to the

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Speaker 4: sit here those stats. These big dogs, they just ain't

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Speaker 4: we don't need to force this one and probably not.

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Speaker 4: Don't even need to talk about it on a Thursday show.

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Speaker 4: I'm simply looking at this as a teaser spot with

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Speaker 3: But I hate doing Survivors on Thursday. But I get it.

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Speaker 3: But I just this number is insane.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe, honestly, I can't believe that it's up

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Speaker 4: getting hired just because they need they're gonna need Dolphins money.

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Speaker 4: I just don't see it come until the professionals really

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Speaker 3: Like Chad said, no need to force it.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised it hasn't gotten at fourteen already.

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Speaker 1: There's no evidence of things unseen to make you want

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Speaker 1: you to me that everyone's kind of sitting this one

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Speaker 1: So it hasn't gone down to twelve. It hasn't gone

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Speaker 4: To me, yeah, at this point, and you if you

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Speaker 4: would say on this show, I feel like we Chad.

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Speaker 4: You say you don't have to take the Dolphins number.

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Speaker 4: But if you're looking for an angle on the Dolphins side,

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Speaker 4: But Miami has the weapons that can. But like too

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Speaker 4: has just been so bad. He's had these picks, he's

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Speaker 4: throwing all of it. It's just so bad. I am

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, who might be the best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now after two games. They are visiting

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. The line opened at eight and a half,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, man, I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: but the reason we love the Browns a week one

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Speaker 1: is because we believe their defense is elite, and statistically

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Speaker 1: rewatched this game assignment. I was on the rower and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I did.

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Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Like, statistically, this game made no sense.

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Speaker 1: The Browns had three hundred and twenty two yards, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens had two hundred and forty two. Browns had seventy

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Speaker 1: The Browns had five point two yards per carry. The

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Speaker 1: going to get into with the Ravens how this was

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Speaker 1: Any passing threw outside that was more than five yards

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Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey that shouldn't have been an interception. His whole

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Speaker 1: game was checked downs and screens like they have no offense.

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Speaker 1: So I can't bet on a team that has a

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Speaker 1: even if the defense only gives up twenty points, they

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Speaker 4: It's fair, but this is easily the best defense Green

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Speaker 4: Bay has faced this year, and it's the zero to

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Speaker 4: like because it is such a desperate spot and they're

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Speaker 4: going against a team that this will be Joe's versus pros.

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Speaker 4: The public is going to be all over the screen

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Speaker 4: Bay team. I was literally at the hard Rock this morning.

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Speaker 4: This is so it and a half in Jersey. So

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Speaker 4: some money has hit this brown side at least here

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Speaker 4: I view this. This Browns team is just a dog

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Speaker 4: that's always gonna be the fight. Like you said, you know,

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Speaker 4: they're they're asking their fourty year old quarterback Joe Flacko

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Speaker 4: what you're saying. He played really bad. It's like he

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Speaker 4: he's just dropping back this much, taking all these hits.

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Speaker 1: But literally throw back to the ogs who used to

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Speaker 1: listen to Behind the Bets with Scooge when we did

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Speaker 2: He's battered Flacco, literally battered Flacco.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, show some respect. Look how bad the how long ago?

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Speaker 4: You're a bad mouth on the man. He's still throwing

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Speaker 4: the touchdowns and then right, but yeah, it's a game

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Speaker 4: And green Bay is another side I'm sure we're gonna

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Speaker 4: in what scenario does green Bay lose? The only thing

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Speaker 3: I'm back on that offensive line.

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Speaker 4: But if you're down, guys, your offensive line, you're going

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Speaker 4: against this Brown's defensive line, you're gonna have a bad time.

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Speaker 3: Like, let's be honest. So this is just one I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna keep eye on. But Chad, you're right here. On Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: People want to grab the eight and a half, I'm

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Speaker 4: grabbing it just in case the pro money does come on.

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Speaker 4: But I'm shocked the stummery he's down to seven and

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Speaker 4: all public all over the Green Bay team. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the early professional money now is coming on the Brown.

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Speaker 1: Side, which is not surprising. I would expect the early

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Speaker 1: pro money.

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Speaker 3: We saw it.

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Speaker 1: It was at nine, down to eight and a half,

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Speaker 1: a half in New Jersey. I just I worry about

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Speaker 4: Like that game was just Stefanski doesn't trust him. The

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Speaker 2: I don't want to not do it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the games I one hundred want to bet,

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Speaker 2: On, Chad, get your head out of your ass.

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Speaker 3: Not there.

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Speaker 2: This is the game. Like, of course we're going to

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Speaker 1: It's a team with a great defense at home, is

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Speaker 2: Tell me that I guess we're not.

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Speaker 3: There love yet.

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Speaker 1: Houston, Jacksonville, Jacksonville. This game was one and a half.

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Speaker 1: They got Baker, they got Baker good last night, and

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Speaker 1: He is now going into a second straight season of

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Speaker 2: Is it? Because everyone thinks the Jags are so.

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Speaker 3: What? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Mismanaged? I've already lost the word that I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: Help me.

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Speaker 3: I would say they're a team.

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Speaker 1: All in, all in their GM came out. He was like,

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Speaker 4: He was so cocky even though he did nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you said, and I love that Baker showing out right

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 3: I mean that shit we were taking repeating like how

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Speaker 4: And you're your top ten? This is why this is

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Speaker 4: like he's got whatever that thing is. You can't measure.

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Speaker 4: Baker's got it. It's crazy like those both games left

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, just I couldn't believe.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he's just so tough Baker. So yeah, back

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Speaker 4: to Houston. This spot, it's it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: bet for a living Okay, Oh, and to Houston against

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Speaker 4: get him up to seven and a half fift you need to.

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Speaker 4: But incredible, incredible spot for Houston facing the Jacks team

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Speaker 4: that how is it not all burning down around them

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Speaker 4: to have been a pin drop, Like you couldn't hear

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Speaker 3: And I don't know about you.

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Speaker 4: But I never not that I feel like I've been

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Speaker 3: But even in Week one, I just watched him.

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Speaker 4: I was just like, he just isn't good, Like he's

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Speaker 3: And just I just can't get over how bad it

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Speaker 4: So I feel lucky where Houston lost in the game,

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Speaker 4: Like we just both agreed they probably shouldn't have lost.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just got really unlucky.

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Speaker 4: And I expect the public to be on the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: So I like the one and a half on Houston,

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Speaker 4: but it's another game where I think what you've said

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Speaker 3: Something's wrong.

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Speaker 4: We see j in this offense right now, and it's

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Speaker 4: and believe in them. But it's the numbers and the

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Speaker 4: I have Houston as great as a better team. They're

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Speaker 4: it because it's just like you said, we've we've watched

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Jacks posted Liam Khan's postgame.

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Speaker 3: Speech, which I thought was cool. I never saw that before.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great, Like you post the losing

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's funny to me that you say we haven't been

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence for two years, saying he's inaccurate when he

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Speaker 1: hasn't proven that he's worth the money they gave him

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Speaker 2: And I think it's good.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really frustrating because it

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns in the first half and then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Darrel fourteen seventy, he could have put them

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Speaker 4: But I just went the masses, like there's still people

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Speaker 3: There's still shows out there that believe them.

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Speaker 4: I mean not to say you believe them, but you

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Speaker 4: it was because of the number. But it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: just be patient, let me see it first and then

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Speaker 4: I'll invest the money in Trevor Lawrence. And man, it's

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Speaker 4: it just will not make sense. His talent, his body

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Speaker 1: All in the head at this point. It's all in

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Speaker 1: the head, right, because we why does Baker Mayfield, who

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Speaker 2: Natural give that Trevor Lawrence a legend. Let me finish,

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Speaker 1: He's not a doll. Like his drunning motion isn't as good.

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Speaker 1: But the guy Kimball and his players love him, and

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Speaker 1: he's top ten. Trevor Lawrence is not no all right,

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback ball Cincinnati and Minnesota. The line has

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Speaker 1: come down tremendously now that we know it's Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: Before I would before I would bet on the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to play it, but I have more

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, the man threw three picks last week,

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Speaker 4: I might get it. I mean a ticket, So that's

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Speaker 4: why you're probably just like happy about it. But that's

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Speaker 1: Wins a win? Do I have to like when I

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Speaker 3: Why would it feel bad? You just laugh? Does never

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Speaker 4: You're getting Carson Wentz and I spot that you know,

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Speaker 3: Like so I love it. Like he's either gonna throw

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Speaker 4: He's gonna throw a three picks and just be a

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Speaker 4: I'm sure people looked at the passing charts. He simply

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Speaker 4: So I think it's in a real injury. But I

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, I can't believe. It's just crazy.

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Speaker 4: Where they let Sam Donald walk and you might have

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Speaker 4: like it figured out JJ McCarthy. So it's it's pretty

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Speaker 4: terrifying where the last year Sam Donald I think had

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Speaker 4: five touchdowns for the Vikings against Atlanta and JJ I

442
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Speaker 4: think got sacked like six times and was just an

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Speaker 4: absolute train wreck. So yeah, tough time being a GM

444
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Speaker 4: right now for the Vikings and this game right here,

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Speaker 4: Like you just said, I'm happy to stay away from

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Speaker 4: it as you are, but I'll take the three for

447
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Speaker 4: now just because it's the Vikings are a better team.

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Speaker 3: We'll see about Wentz.

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Speaker 4: We know, it's just you don't know what you're getting

450
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Speaker 4: so there's like no chance this would be in our countess.

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Speaker 3: You know, at two and a half.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if I could convince myself, let

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Speaker 4: alone chat the force of the Vikings in a two

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Speaker 4: and a half.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you, it's the backup Bowl.

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Speaker 4: This is why we protect the quarterbacks for exactly because

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Speaker 4: of a game like this where it's like, just protect

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks at all costs. It's just week week three

459
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Speaker 4: when we down five starters, six six qbs. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's an ugly one for sure. And I know usually

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Speaker 4: I take the dog in the spot, but at the three,

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Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take the.

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Speaker 1: Vikings Atlanta at Carolina. This one popped and we talked

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Speaker 1: about it on Sunday night. We said we're not going

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Speaker 1: to be fooled by Bryce Young's come back in the

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Speaker 1: fininal five minutes of the games when he looked exactly

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Speaker 1: like Bryce Young from last year when they went seven

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Speaker 1: and two against the spread and won four of those

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Speaker 1: games outright. And that was before the Atlanta game against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings when their defense looked looked really good against

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. But since then this line has popped. It

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Speaker 1: was around three three and a half. It's gone up

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Speaker 1: to five and a half, mainly because the Panthers lost

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Speaker 1: Austin Corb and Robert Hunt, their center in their right guard.

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Speaker 1: They were put on ir from an offensive line that

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Speaker 1: was already having a really hard time predicting. Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an opinion on the game at five

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Speaker 1: and a half, just because I feel like I liked

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and we've now lost the best of the number.

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Speaker 2: Do you have thoughts here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll put them on our money line around Robin Brow.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: The best of the number is gone, and they're going

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Speaker 4: to force me like last week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Companther's got to seven last weege Ariazon.

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Speaker 4: If this gets up to seven, they're a plus seven

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Speaker 4: home dog or six and a half. I'll have to

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Speaker 4: do it. But like I said, I'm not punishing people

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Speaker 4: in the show anymore with the Panthers. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to make them take it, and it'll be my own

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Speaker 4: suffering if I do. But yeah, we'll happily put the

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Speaker 4: Atlanta and our money line run Robins. It's a good

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Speaker 4: spot for them and the Panthers pull off the upset

494
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Speaker 4: good Hopefully A couple of people through the Falcons and

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Speaker 4: their survivor pool.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I just we can't give us out on

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: We are so either skittish or more disciplined about these

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we don't trust. Yeah, those are different in

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Speaker 2: And so we can't. Like I said, we've got to evolve.

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Speaker 4: But bye weeks in bye weeks. In a game like this,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at New England, New England is a one and

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think Aaron Rodgers has looked pedestrian

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Speaker 1: against a Jets defense we thought might be good and

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense that we know is good.

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Speaker 2: His decision making.

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Speaker 1: Is flawed, his reactions are slower, his lack of athleticism

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Speaker 1: first two games straight. Facts, here's a bigger problem with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers right now.

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Speaker 2: Simon.

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Speaker 1: There's this defense that we love that we think is amazing.

564
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Speaker 1: Allowed one hundred yards rushing in seven of the past

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Speaker 1: eleven games, including the first two this season. The Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: by the way, had thirty eight in the first half

567
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Speaker 1: and seventy nine in the second half, same number of carries.

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Speaker 1: Alex high Smith left the game with the high ankle sprain.

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Speaker 1: They got much much worse after that. You've been telling

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Speaker 1: me believe in Verrabel, believe in Vrabel. It's time to

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Speaker 1: believe in Vrabel. Do I believe in Vrabel?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: I have not bet this, and all my systems, everything

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Speaker 1: is telling me, take the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Take the Patriots. I have not bet this yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish you would have believed in them last week, Vrabel,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I went back and watched that

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Speaker 4: New England Miami game, and Newland might be really bad

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Speaker 4: like they You know, Christian Zals is a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: He's probably the best defender, and.

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Speaker 4: You know Tyreeq Waddle there's multiple player where they were

582
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Speaker 4: shrieking wide open. If Twoo just could put the ball

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Speaker 4: on the spot, you know, Miami would have had a

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Speaker 4: lot of you know better, Miami would have probably won

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Speaker 4: that game. Honestly, really going through it. But yeah, this,

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Speaker 4: this honestly would be another time just honestly believing and

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Speaker 4: vraible because I know Patriot fans and Drake made Truthers

588
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Speaker 4: are like, you see how great he was against Miami.

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Speaker 3: We talked about Miami's secondary is horrible.

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Speaker 4: Drake May had a bunch of fifty to fifty balls

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Speaker 4: that really worked out in his favor in that game,

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Speaker 4: which at the end of the day we'll take because

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Speaker 4: we said Miami is a really bad secondary. Jalen Ramsey

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Speaker 4: has actually been pretty good for Pittsburgh and their secondary

595
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Speaker 4: is just deceased. They have nothing left in their secondary,

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Speaker 4: and that that's been the biggest issue, right we do.

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Speaker 4: We did love their defense, and it was because they've

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Speaker 4: been so good over the years, and then the most

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Speaker 4: expensive defense in all football. It's I joked before the

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Speaker 4: season with you, they're paying their defense. I think it

601
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Speaker 4: was like one hundred million dollars more than the Eagles

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Speaker 4: are in total for their own defense. And I think

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Speaker 4: we'd both agree which defense we'd rather have right now.

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Speaker 4: So Steelers, it's it's a it's a game.

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Speaker 3: I want to dive more into.

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Speaker 4: My view of this one is there were books give

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Speaker 4: us the two because right now it is a lot

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Speaker 4: of Steelers money so I'm happy to be patient. Look

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Speaker 4: at this one as maybe potential Simon says, but if

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Speaker 4: they're going back and watching the Miami tape, it's like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, I can't believe how bad this secondary

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Speaker 4: is because it's Gina Smith week one and we just

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Speaker 4: saw Gino last night look like totally lost against a

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Speaker 4: banked up Charges defense. So it's it's just I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: have little patience here with this one. Hopefully gets to

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Speaker 4: two to two and a half, just like last week, right,

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Speaker 4: they got to two and a half against Miami. That

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Speaker 4: that to me is a more comfortable, better spot to

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Speaker 4: be in where I still just have questions about this

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Speaker 4: Newland team. And I see what they're forming with the

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Speaker 4: Rabel identity and uh, you know that him running all

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Speaker 4: on the sideline when the kick return, Like, oh, that's

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Speaker 4: why we love Rabel and the players play for him.

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Speaker 3: But man, is joke. We joke all the time about

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Speaker 3: Tom and Tomlin spots.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine this week in practice right, how and

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Speaker 4: how it's going to be for this team. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll see chat. This one's based on the number. Be

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Speaker 4: patient if you like doing them, wait for the two.

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Speaker 4: If you like Pittsburgh, I got no issue. You're grabbing

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Speaker 4: it now in case it goes goes up.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for a trend? I know you love

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Speaker 1: the trends from our friends at Killer Sports. And this

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Speaker 1: applies to a few teams this week. Okay, teams that

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Speaker 1: have failed to cover in the first two weeks in

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Speaker 1: Week three sixty against the spread since twenty ten. That clues,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the Miami Dolphins. It also includes the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and a few other teams that we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. Look, I think we need to

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Speaker 1: be selective when it comes to trends, Like you can't

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Speaker 1: just back them again like blindly. We will not do

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Speaker 1: it with the Dolphins. The Steelers could be more interesting,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't want to play them.

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Speaker 4: But if you do bet trends, that's one where like

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Speaker 4: you take like Chia said, you take Miami, you take Houston,

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Speaker 4: you take Pittsburgh here like that's that's a timeless trend.

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Speaker 3: I bet you're going back even further. That would hold

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Speaker 3: up in week three.

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Speaker 4: Just because we talk all the time, the public go reacts,

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Speaker 4: professional manager react. The number moves too much, you get value.

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Speaker 4: On the other side, so yeah, that's a totally great

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Speaker 4: trend to give out to start the week with.

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Speaker 1: Steelers, Chiefs, Saints, Bears, Broncos, Dolphins zero and two against

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Speaker 1: the spread.

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Speaker 3: I like a lot of those teams.

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Speaker 1: I do too, So we're going to we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to the games here. I'm excited you said that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that means you might like the Bears.

659
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that Los Angeles Rams at

660
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles three and a half point favorites

661
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: right now. Look, this came up Sunday night on the show.

662
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: A YouTube watcher asked if we should be in the comments,

663
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: should we be considering the Rams and the money line.

664
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Speaker 1: Your first reaction was that you didn't hate it. The

665
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: line has moved in the Rams direction. It was four

666
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: and a half and now it's three and a half.

667
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts in this game. I need

668
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: to get yours before I share mine, because I feel

669
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm just going to tell you

670
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: right now I really like the Eagles here, but tell

671
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: me your thoughts.

672
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said grabbed the four and out just because

673
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: that was a good opening line. That was good value.

674
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: I just stayed away from the money line here just

675
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: because of the history of these two teams. Some teams

676
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: just have other team's numbers, and you know, you dive

677
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: into this Rams team. I believe they're last eleven games,

678
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 4: they've won nine. Their two losses were to this Eagles team.

679
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: So some teams just match up well against you, and

680
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: apparently that's what it is with this Eagles team.

681
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: Rams. I believe last week something crazy.

682
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: It was the most it was the biggest blowout of

683
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: the Stafford McVeigh Dandam isn't that crazy And it wasn't

684
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: even that big, No, So it's been a weird, a

685
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: weird case of uh. You know, these Rams just take

686
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: care of business, beat these teams close.

687
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: And the Eagles.

688
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: This is as an Eagles fan, this is like my

689
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is peak right now of

690
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: my fano, but this is good as it gets. This week,

691
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: you got guys like Adam Schef, They're all these different

692
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: you know, sideline reporters coming on just saying it's not

693
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: a football play. This is why the guy got rid

694
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: of the toush push And I am just loving. It's

695
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: the best as a fan where your team is so

696
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: good at a QB sneak. People want it banned, they

697
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: want it out of the game forever.

698
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: And I love it. This is an Eagles fan.

699
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: This is peak right. Two super Bowls in seven years.

700
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: Everyone just hates them. People say this is the most

701
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: boring offense in all football.

702
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: Who cares, you know, it's a scor is to the sport.

703
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: They forget.

704
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: This Eagles team last year scored the most points in

705
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: NFL history in the playoffs. This boring, horrible offense. I

706
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: think of all the great offenses that ever played this sport.

707
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: This Eagles team with this boring pushbush running the ball

708
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: five yards two yards at a time, most points scored

709
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: in NFL history in the playoffs last year.

710
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: So I love it. It's just a team that I talked

711
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: about last year.

712
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 4: The Eagles are chameleons and they will form to whatever

713
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: the other team is and just suffocate them whatever their

714
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: weakness is, whatever it takes to win the game, whether

715
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: it just be the most boring slow bleed them out

716
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: this type of style, or pushing the ball downfield if

717
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: they need to. So I like dismatch before I feel

718
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: like the same reason as you do of this is

719
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: peak overrated Rams team right now, it feels like and

720
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: a bad spot for those Rams team in the sense

721
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: that I think we both agree we have questions about

722
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 4: that Houston team. We have a major questions about Tennessee

723
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: that Eagles team they showed me last week, because I

724
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: did in the back of mind, I did think that

725
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: was a terrible.

726
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: Spot for them.

727
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: But going against that Chiefs team, where we know how

728
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: desperate the Chiefs are going to be and all the

729
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: stuff that came along with it. If this is l

730
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: this season, I'd be with you, I'd be way more

731
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: confident on the Eagles here at three and a half.

732
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 4: I'm not going to force it because I did see

733
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: threes pop and then you quickly saw go right to

734
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: three and a half. So I have no that's on

735
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: this other than my Rams four and a half ticket.

736
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 4: But I think we're aligned up that this is probably

737
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: gonna hit a point where this is gonna be an

738
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: Eagles value line, and I'll wait for that.

739
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: But as we see here right now, I'm.

740
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: Tempted on it because I just see how how much

741
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 4: better the Seago's team is, but I'm not going to

742
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: force it.

743
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: I've watched this Eagles team and feel like they're at

744
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: the height of their powers. And this is a one

745
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: hundred percent perception versus reality game, because I do think

746
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles can kind of do whatever they want at

747
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: this point, and I think they can play over the

748
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: top if they have to. I think they can play

749
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: physical if they have to. I think they can rush

750
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: the passer if they want to. I think the Rams

751
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: right now are getting a lot of credit for being

752
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: really aggressive and having a defensive line that created a

753
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: lot of pressure against a Texas team that we saw

754
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: can't handle pressure, and against the Titans team that we'll

755
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: get into is actually the worst at handling pressure of

756
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: any team in football right now. So like their QB

757
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: pressure rate offensively defending his opponent is I think thirty

758
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: first or thirty second only worse than maybe only the

759
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: Bengals are worse. And this is without being blitzed. So

760
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: like that discrepancy is massive. So the Rams all of

761
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a sudden getting too much credit. Here's my big fear,

762
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: and it's why to me, it's not a Chad loves

763
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: love yet, because this was like.

764
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: Pete, Chad loves love.

765
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: For me, I'm going to tell you, and I'm a

766
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: little worried about the secondary against the Rams because Stafford

767
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: and Puca and DeVante they looked really good, like that

768
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: might be the strength of their team right now.

769
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, my biggest question fear for the Eagles right now

770
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: is the offensive coordinator is someone who's never done the

771
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: job before. And he sounds the part. He talks good

772
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: talk in his interviews. He's got all that down, pat,

773
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: but I've real questions about his offensive scheme. It is

774
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: it's very simple, but it's very simple and easy to

775
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: read and very basic.

776
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: And I know it's early days here, right, so it's

777
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: I get it.

778
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: They're not trying to put too much on Galen's plate,

779
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: but it's always a little nervous when it's it's someone's

780
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: name that you don't know. They've never been in this

781
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: position before, and they got it because he was very

782
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: little to sir around. He's been in with Cron the

783
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 4: whole way. He's been his guy. Hurts went to bat

784
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: form helped him get.

785
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: The job as well.

786
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: But through two weeks, I think that's the only glaring

787
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 4: weakness right now is Hurts and learning this offensive system.

788
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: And the second biggest one is what Chad just mentioned.

789
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: The number two corner of this Eagles team. So things

790
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: that the Rams team could exploit, Like this Rams team

791
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: very well oiled machine. There's a reason I love them

792
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: coming into the year if Stafford was healthy, because I

793
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: told you that that Adam's ad getting rid of Cooper

794
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: Cup was a huge deal and replacing another guy like

795
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: Adams who might be still the best route runner of

796
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: all football.

797
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: He's just so crisp everything he does.

798
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's uh, it's a It's a crazy game

799
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: to have at one o'clock. I can't believe this is

800
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: not the Sunday night game. Yeah right, yeah, it's it's

801
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 4: a game. I'm sure we're gonna talk more on Thursday.

802
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: As we said it right now, I think we're both

803
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 4: lining up to be on this Eagle side.

804
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely Las Vegas at Washington. The game's moved to

805
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: three and a half from six and a half basically

806
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: because there's Jade Daniels intrigued.

807
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: We don't know if he's going to be playing or not.

808
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I just got an injured knee, had an MRI, so

809
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of it passed from me until we know what's happening.

810
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll probably be on the Raiders here I'll take

811
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: this early in line at three and a half, just

812
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: in the simple fact it was everything went wrong, horrible game, obviously,

813
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: short week flying out east. I just think everyone's gonna

814
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: be on Washington, whether it's Daniels or not. So if

815
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: it's Daniels, you know, I'll miss it. The Stimer will

816
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: go way up, and I'll just avoid this game. If

817
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: it's not, I could see this. He's again down at

818
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: two and a half. Three, Like it is all Daniels.

819
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: Washington is nothing without Daniels. That's not that talented of

820
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: the defense. They're an older team, and I don't think

821
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: you can just have someone else step in and replace

822
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: what Daniels does. So that Vegas team, they were good

823
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: in that game in my opinion, Okay, it was just

824
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: all Gino, Like he just failed them in a million

825
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: different ways. So another game I'm not going to force

826
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 4: in because of how bad Gino played, and he's another

827
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: guy in a new offense with Chip Kelly that he

828
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: was not throwing with confidence and had some horrible, horrible

829
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 4: reads in that game against the Chargers.

830
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: So it's a big difference going from the Chargers to Washington.

831
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: We know that.

832
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, it's another game where, like Chad said,

833
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 4: we could be patient with it, see what the injury

834
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: news is on Daniels.

835
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: But I really wish I gave you that Sunday night

836
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: it was six.

837
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: I looked at it when it was six and I

838
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: was like, man, I'm not gonna just take this line

839
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: just in case if the Raiders get rolled, this gets

840
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: up to seven.

841
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: I should have taken it.

842
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: We should have known something was up with Daniels and

843
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: he looked banged up in that game.

844
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: You're Jets at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a seven

845
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: point favorite.

846
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Again, the signals are screaming take the Jets like you

847
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: take a team that just got blown out. The number

848
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: is going to be inflated. I think the number is

849
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: up at ticker two because of what happened last night

850
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: with Baker and their ability to come back, and it's

851
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: a second week in a row and people having faith

852
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: in what Baker can do. We don't know the status

853
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: of Justin Fields and whether or not he's going to

854
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: be playing because he was being evaluated for a concussion. Honestly,

855
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: tyred Taylor in terms of game management and accuracy and

856
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: short throws, which is what the Jets are relying on.

857
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: He might be an upgrade. So I'm not saying we're

858
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: taking the Jets here, but it scares me less than

859
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: you think.

860
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: I'd get as a Bears fan. You're a hated Rex quarterback.

861
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: But I actually have I have him as at least

862
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: a point I believe in my model higher than Taylor.

863
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: So Fields to me is it'd be great if he's

864
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: in this.

865
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: But this is really about the number once again, I think,

866
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's I actually kind of love the Jets

867
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: on the spot, and I think you're gonna hate it

868
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 4: because it's they got burned from it last week.

869
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: But you can't bet that way. Is it better?

870
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: You kind of got to move on and burn it.

871
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 4: You learn from it. Right, that was a bad read.

872
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: But I think we can all agree that was a

873
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: bad read because of all the things we've seen with Fields. Right,

874
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: he just completely flaked out and was a zero in

875
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: that game. And yeah, major questions about this shit's defense.

876
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm starting to every day is this season goes on,

877
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: as I get more and more respect for Salah and well,

878
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: it looks like he might be a defensive genius because

879
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 4: this actually might be a horrible defense on the Jets,

880
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: and he was the one that was so good and

881
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 4: made them look so good.

882
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: But the Bucks have injuries, Like we.

883
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: Saw how banged up the offensive line got in that game,

884
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 4: and how Baker was just getting crushed the OL game,

885
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: and Baker might be banged up too, So grabbing grab

886
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: the sevens as you can.

887
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: I'd grab it right now, some says Jets, Yeah, no

888
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: is this.

889
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: Simon says, we'll see.

890
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: I guy have another game.

891
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm assuming we both like and if if, if you

892
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: there's two other games I really like. But I'm I'm

893
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: I'm grabbing this one right now. I'm not gonna make

894
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: a Simon says, because I I do see this potentially growing,

895
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: like this could go up seven and a half.

896
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: But even if six and a half, people are gonna

897
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: hate it.

898
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: I just I don't know how we don't have this

899
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: one in the contest.

900
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: It's just gonna we'll see.

901
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled.

902
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thrilled.

903
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: Other games I know we're gonna love, But like, I

904
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: just couldn't get over the fact that the Stummer was

905
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: this big and the Bucks do role teams. It does happen,

906
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: but they usually play to their competition level and squeak

907
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: by and pull out wins. Now you're at it on

908
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: top of that them being banged up and you know,

909
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: stay with you one of the that's just defense. They

910
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: do have a pretty good defensive line in some aspect,

911
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 4: and if the middle of the lines banged up, that's

912
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: that's really where they can shine with Quin Williams. So yeah,

913
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: I'm glad we're aligned on It was hoping because it's

914
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: a couple of seven a halfs dip pop. It's at

915
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: seven at a hard rock I'm happy taking the seven. Uh,

916
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 4: just I was gonna make it, Simeon said, Like I said,

917
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: it's it came down from the seven a half, so

918
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: I'm not going to make it that.

919
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: I do love the seven.

920
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: Do you think Todd Bowles let Nick Chubbs score last

921
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: night so he could get the ball back quicker or

922
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: do you think that was just a defensive breakdown. If

923
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: you look at the play I've seen this online this morning,

924
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: it looks like the Bucks basically just let him run

925
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: right through them. And it was especially weird since the

926
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Texas had not been able to run the ball all night,

927
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's a gaping hole and

928
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: the guy can score a touchdown?

929
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Do you frate it? Yeah? I look the idea and

930
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: it was and I agree with that.

931
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: During that game, I thought to myself, Nick Chubb looks

932
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: like he has nothing left. And then that one play

933
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: he breaks it for what was a t Yeah, twenty

934
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: one yards.

935
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

936
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: And then it was brilliant because they had three timeouts

937
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: and they were either going to bleed their timeouts and

938
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: they had to go run down the field or they

939
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: had to keep their timeouts and go score a touchdown. Like,

940
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: I loved it in the end if that's what he did.

941
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: Total Ninja Total total Ninja Indianapolis at Tennessee. Tennessee is

942
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: a three and a half point favorite. You called this

943
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: one on Sunday night. I used to take the Colts

944
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: at plus three, are at minus three. I did take

945
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: the Colts. Look, Indianapol's Cults right now are probably the

946
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: greatest offense in the history of the NFL. And I

947
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: think we don't take a new account the old sort

948
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: of tropes Division Dog plus three at home, Like, I

949
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: don't think think these those things are actually as relevant

950
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: as they used to be.

951
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: And to me, this was really about the running game.

952
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: Like Jonathan Taylor has been magnificent for this team, both

953
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: out of the backfield catching the ball and running the ball.

954
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: The Titans are allowing the league worst five point four

955
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: yards per carry in the first two weeks on defense.

956
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: On offense, I mentioned their QB pressure rate is second highest,

957
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: while the opponents are blitzing at such a low rate.

958
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: It's only twenty third against them in the NFL, so

959
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the gap between the pressure and the blitz is massive.

960
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: I feel good about the Cults, even at minus three

961
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: and a half.

962
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: I did too.

963
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: My negative view of this one is going to be

964
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: something we always fear of, which is a home the

965
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: visional dog that is surely surely going to be getting

966
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: less than ten percent of the money and the bets.

967
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: This is going to be the biggest need of the

968
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: books this week. And I have no doubt.

969
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: This is such a public play, There's no doubt about it.

970
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: We are leaning totally.

971
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: Torched by Dallas last week, and literally they were the

972
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: same thing. I have the money, ninbers and of the bets,

973
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: and I didn't mind it because Dallas was at home,

974
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: and even though we were dead than dead, there was

975
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: still a little glimmer at that overtime we could have

976
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: got to the number. But here, I'm with you, it's

977
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe the number on Sunday night.

978
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: I could not.

979
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: Believe they hung a three, and I said that. I

980
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: was like, I'm taking this now because there's only one

981
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: way this is going to go. There's no way this

982
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: gets the two and a half. If we got to

983
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 4: two and a half, the alarms would be going off

984
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: all over the place. That this was a really bad

985
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 4: spots for the cold team. So trying to find angles

986
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: for this Titans team cold secondary is banged up.

987
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: Can Daniel Jones keep playing at this pace?

988
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: The man is not not punted, right, They've not punted

989
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 4: this year. This Colts team, I just I can't get

990
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: over how well he played, even going back and watching it,

991
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: and how well they ran the ball against that Broncos defense,

992
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: which we said they were going to take a step

993
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: down that Broncos defense, but that's still a really good defense.

994
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: So another only only angles I got attack. Really chat,

995
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: it is like, Okay, you have a Colts team that

996
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: actually plays fast now coming outdoors, playing on grass, and

997
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: you have a Tennessee team that is just left for

998
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: dead by everybody, including me and Chad, who loved them

999
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: just a week ago.

1000
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: So just kind of give us pause here. But I

1001
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: hate it.

1002
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 4: I think we both want to be on the Colts.

1003
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: But I just gotta I gotta take a step back

1004
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 4: on this one. We'll talk about on Thursday. But I know,

1005
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: I know this is going to be the biggest deed

1006
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: for the book.

1007
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: I just can't.

1008
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 4: I don't know who's betting. I don't know who's betting

1009
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: Tennessee at this number. Like we said, the Colts, I

1010
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 4: feel like I've earned their respect to be at this number,

1011
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: to be up to six or five on the road

1012
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: in this divisional game. They just they feel like that

1013
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: much better of a team. And like you said, the

1014
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 4: coaching of Tennessee and the stuff they do it is

1015
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: just so bad. So yeah, uh, I'll be patient here.

1016
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: People can tell them all spooked on this one. Even

1017
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: though I loved it on Sunday, it's I can't. I

1018
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 4: can't believe that this hasn't gone up to five six.

1019
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, look, you love the number on Sunday.

1020
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I did the research yesterday, I was really

1021
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: concerned at how much I love the game. It's very

1022
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: matchup with the Colts nearly made it a Chad Loves

1023
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Love nearly and like it just felt. No, that's it's

1024
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: so chalky. You're setting yourself up to be disappointed. You're

1025
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: gonna look like an idiot. You can't handle that. It

1026
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: will make your Sunday miserable. I've already betted at three.

1027
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm not walking away from that. But geez, Louise, man,

1028
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: that just feels we'd be walking into it. We'd be

1029
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: walking into as we used to like to say, oh Horn.

1030
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 4: It's Nesta And I can already see the future where

1031
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: it's like we have one spot open and we're just like,

1032
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: let's just throw We're gonna.

1033
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: You know what it is. We're gonna get lazy. It's

1034
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: gonna be like parenting.

1035
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: It's like we said, I you said to them, when

1036
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: you feel easier with the losses? Right, what would you

1037
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 4: feel easier losing this bed? Or we taken the Giants

1038
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: at home against the Chiefs, you know what I mean,

1039
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: so's it's tough.

1040
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Or by the way, New Orleans plus seven and a

1041
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: half on the road at Seattle.

1042
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: This is one of those games. I talked about that

1043
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: stat earlier.

1044
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Zero to two against the spread, and the perception is

1045
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: going to be that you want to back off when

1046
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: it comes to the Saints.

1047
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Seahawks.

1048
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Really played well and hard against the Niners in Week one,

1049
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: lost in the final moments of the game. Then they

1050
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: went out and dominated the Steelers and made the Steelers

1051
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: look really bad. So are the Seahawks? Is the Seahawks

1052
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: defense great? I do think it's great. They have not

1053
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: played a defense. The Saints have not played a defense

1054
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: as good as the Seahawks, yet have the highest QB

1055
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: pressure rate and the second lowest blitz percentage, so they

1056
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: are getting pressure with their front four just rushing for

1057
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: Saints are keeping themselves alive in these games though, and

1058
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: granted they've been at home, but still like they're making

1059
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: it hard. This feels so much more trappy than the Colts.

1060
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: It feels greedy to betting on the to be betting

1061
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks at minus seven and a half. Give

1062
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: me your take. Are we being courageous to love the

1063
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: Saints here? I feel like you're gonna tell me this,

1064
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: as Simon says.

1065
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: Ooh on the Saints, Yeah no, thank god. Not.

1066
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: Almost every pro I've talked to I think is in

1067
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: alignment with you in this exact spot on the Saints team.

1068
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: And I think the Saints are in that description of

1069
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: the one and two against the spread, right they are

1070
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 4: totally so you know, they they fit the trends. My

1071
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: model has at six, so like I should be on

1072
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 4: the Saints team.

1073
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: But what you do said terrifies me.

1074
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 4: How do the Saints move the ball and score against

1075
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: the Seahawks defense? And you know, as much as we

1076
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 4: want a bad mouth Sam Darnold, you know, I feel

1077
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: like this is probably a good spot for him with

1078
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 4: his offense and the way they can run the ball

1079
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: against a Saints team that can't really stop the run.

1080
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.

1081
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: We have two weeks now and it looks like this

1082
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 4: is just a team that simply will struggle all season

1083
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: against the run.

1084
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: So I love the number, Like that's what sucks so much.

1085
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: Is like, man, this is an incredible, incredible number, but

1086
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: I have to be patient, Like I already seen it

1087
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: right now, I'm looking right now, there's books that have

1088
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: hit seven. So yeah, clearly, clearly the professional side is

1089
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: the Saints. I need to just not up and do it,

1090
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure, but I just haven't met it yet, Like

1091
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: there's other games I've bet heavy this week and this

1092
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: is not one of them. I've just been watching this

1093
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: and saying to myself, can this get the eight?

1094
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: Can of get day and a half?

1095
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: And now I'm looking it's going the other way, so

1096
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: I might just have to take the seven and a half.

1097
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's getting I don't think it's

1098
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: going up because the Seahawks, I don't think yet are

1099
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: sort of enough of a public team, right and because

1100
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: if you look at the record that are one and one,

1101
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: and some people are coming to this who are going

1102
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: to be betting on the weekend, they're going to see

1103
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: a Seahawks team that is one and one. They're not

1104
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: going to recognize that. They they beat the Steelers who

1105
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: are one now one and one, they lost to the Niners,

1106
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: who everyone thinks are great still, so they're not going

1107
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: to be a public side, like a heavy public side.

1108
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: This is a professional game, yeah, and a professional number.

1109
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: And this is just like that time say this is

1110
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: gonna be Presisus shows.

1111
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna end up betting the Saints. I don't know

1112
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: if it'll be in the contest, but it'll be. It'll

1113
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: be attempting number seven and a half. Seven and a half,

1114
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: all right, the Broncos are one of those teams that

1115
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: fits that model of having yet to cover, and so

1116
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: the perception a little bit off. I don't have a

1117
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: great read on this one. I think the Broncos defense

1118
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: might be overrated. They're getting a lot of pressure, but

1119
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: they're also blitzing fifty percent of the time. So I

1120
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: think the Chargers are kind of good. And they they

1121
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: backed it up last night after a week one against

1122
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So two and a half is a phishing

1123
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: number to me. I don't really want anything to do

1124
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: with this.

1125
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: Simon says, giving me Denver, love love, love, love love

1126
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: Denver in the spot, and I get to fear what

1127
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: you're saying about this Chargers team.

1128
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: Like they have looked really good.

1129
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Herbert looks all world looks incredibly talented and

1130
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: dream dream start for them, right, two starts, one in Brazil,

1131
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: then in Vegas in your division.

1132
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: You win them both.

1133
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: They're coming back home a chance to go three and

1134
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 4: oh in the division to start this season.

1135
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 3: Chargers will win this game, but it won't be buying

1136
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: more than two chet.

1137
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: This is such a number to play such a spot

1138
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: to play in this Broncos team, who I was banging

1139
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 4: the drum to start the season.

1140
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: They were eight to oh or was it nine h

1141
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: eight to oh?

1142
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure bo Nicks last year as a favorite

1143
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: against the spread, he was perfect.

1144
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: Let's see this year, Jed I went too as a favorite.

1145
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: So the public is totally totally done with the Broncos,

1146
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 4: and this is exactly where I step in, like this

1147
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 4: is my favorite bets where it's like you line it up.

1148
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: Last week loved the Colts and I knew no matter

1149
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: what the number was going to be on the Broncos,

1150
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: I was going to probably.

1151
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: Love them even better. Like I have him modeled to

1152
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: pick them.

1153
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: In the Chargers, I do have the great the Broncos

1154
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: greated higher than this Chargers team because people aren't realizing this.

1155
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: This Chargers team is banged up today. Chargers team that

1156
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: you know, they've lost key guys on offensive line. That's

1157
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 4: a big deal, and they've gotten away with it somehow

1158
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: because you know, Herbert's so talented and harball and even

1159
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 4: their defense I cannot get around go to their defensive

1160
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: played two weeks in, but you couldn't be bigger of

1161
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: a letdown spot against a very desperate, angry Broncos team

1162
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: that's been undervalued by the general public right now, like this,

1163
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 4: people had the Broncos is the best team, as one

1164
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: of the best team visions in the ANFC. That hasn't changed, right,

1165
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: They just they haven't played well. They had a flukey

1166
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 4: loss last week, and now the lines punish him for that.

1167
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: This probably should have been one, maybe a pick if

1168
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: they win. Instead it's two and a half. I mean,

1169
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: if you're lucky, you can find a three, But I

1170
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: think professionals are gonna have models like me, and they're

1171
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 4: gonna come in and hit this no matter what if

1172
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: it touches three.

1173
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: So no chance we get three and a half in

1174
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: contest if we do.

1175
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: What a gift that would be on this Broncos team

1176
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: against the Chargers that are just I don't know what's more.

1177
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: Who's more peaked out right now? Th Emmer, Green Bay.

1178
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: It's it's close, though I think it might be the Chargers.

1179
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 4: This is just an egregious line for a really tough

1180
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: divisional game. So yeah, it's uh, it's it's it's it's

1181
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: shocking that you weren't too confident on this Broncos. So

1182
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna be all in fading this

1183
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: Chargers team after last night.

1184
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: Well, look, I haven't had a chance to watch the

1185
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: game because I, you know, go to sleep at nine o'clock.

1186
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it didn't start until ten.

1187
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: And this morning, when I was rowing, I decided to

1188
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: watch the Browns because I was a little bit more

1189
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: intrigued and figured I could catch up on the Chargers.

1190
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: I was pretty disappointed in the Broncos. I've been disappointed

1191
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: in their defense. I'm disappointed in the underlying metrics I

1192
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: see week one, I know, but against the calls, Like

1193
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I just can't believe how much they have to blitz

1194
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: to get any kind of pressure, and so that that

1195
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: is concerning to me.

1196
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: Well, there's there is one three out there, so you

1197
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: might you could be patient. If you won, I would

1198
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: just grab it two and a half now, in case

1199
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: it comes down.

1200
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: I'll roll with you on it if you feel that

1201
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: strongly about it.

1202
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: It's on the general public. But if you want to

1203
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: bet it, I'm happy for you to get on the party.

1204
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: It's it's a nice number and a nice spot.

1205
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: So maybe this this next game, the Cowboys at the

1206
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: Bears the line is one and a half. The first

1207
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: move was in the Cowboys direction. The Bears are favored

1208
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: by a one and a half. This is, you know,

1209
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: train wreck of expectations meets the Mismanagement Bowl, right Like

1210
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney isn't coming in to save this Cowboys team.

1211
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: All I read about from the Bears is they're encouraged by.

1212
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams progress.

1213
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: He made better plays, he got his feet set, he

1214
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 1: was in his twitchy with his eyes, all these kinds

1215
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: of things, looking for anything to make them feel good

1216
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: in a blowout against the Lions.

1217
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: The Bears fit the model, you know what I mean, Like.

1218
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: The team that hasn't covered so much Animouz City and

1219
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: negativity against them.

1220
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well for me.

1221
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: You kind of have to back the Bears if you're

1222
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: going to play this game. But at one and a half,

1223
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: it feels sketchy, like I'm not loving one and a

1224
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: half as a number lately.

1225
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is on what Simon says. I

1226
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: left it for you.

1227
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 4: So either one this Simon says, or Denver Simon says,

1228
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: I love them both. Yeah, Bears, you have to bet

1229
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: this one. If you're a fan of this show gotta

1230
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: do it, like Chad's so right, it's all bad, it's

1231
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: all negative. Right after this Bears team felt like an

1232
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 4: incredible fluky loss week one, And I do put the

1233
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: blame obviously on Caleb for these first two weeks in

1234
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 4: some aspects, but it's hard to blame them really for

1235
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: that Lions game. But they just they ran into a buzzsaw,

1236
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: like it just felt like every everything was taken out

1237
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: on them from Detroit on defensive side and the offensive side.

1238
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 4: And Caleb is my only true hesitation here where it's

1239
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: like if you if Sunday morning, You're just like, I

1240
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: can't trust Caleb.

1241
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't believe in them.

1242
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: Yet I can see where you're coming from, just because

1243
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: I've watched both games twice and both times it's like

1244
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: you see the raw talent, but you see all the

1245
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 4: stupid shit. He needs to just grow out of the

1246
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 4: holding on to the ball for too long, not making

1247
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: the read and just making the throw and trying to

1248
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 4: look for the other reads where it's like you don't

1249
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 4: have five six seconds back to to run around. So

1250
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: for Kayla's weaknesses, Dallas to me can't exploit it. They

1251
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 4: don't have guys on that front that are really terrifying

1252
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: in the past RUS aspects. So organizationally, I feel like

1253
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 4: CHAT should hope they go oh for three because maybe

1254
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: they fire the general manager.

1255
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: They just gave an extension to food. Didn't deserve it

1256
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: in any way, but.

1257
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: Just an incredible unique spot on the Bears team that

1258
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: Chad talked about it.

1259
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: It's like the over two stuff.

1260
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: All that is a big deal, but it's also just

1261
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 4: pub perception, right this number should be two and a

1262
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: half three Bears.

1263
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: Honestly, like I haven't modeled at two and a half.

1264
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: Personally, I think it should be three. It's one live

1265
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: right now at hard Rock here in Jersey, so it's

1266
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: come down.

1267
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: It's minus one right now and the Bear So.

1268
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 4: The public and the professionals might be lining up on

1269
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, and I honestly kind of love it. It's like,

1270
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: I can't believe they're missing this one on this Bears

1271
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 4: team that I think we'll be able to move the

1272
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: ball offensively against obviously this Dallas defense, but defensively.

1273
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: I know you guys just lost your all pro.

1274
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: Corner, but you'd like to think there's a way they

1275
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 4: can scheme up. They can take away the passing game

1276
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: and try to make this Cowboys team just run the

1277
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 4: ball because we've seen it now, that's that's the only

1278
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: way to really shut down that offense. In Yeah, it's

1279
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: we've seen this. You talked about you have the oh

1280
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 4: for two teams zero to two against the spread. The

1281
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: reason that sixty percent exists is just because football is

1282
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: such an incredibly desperate sport, and this, to me, is

1283
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: going to be such a hungry, desperate spot of any

1284
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: team I could think of.

1285
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: I think are number one, where if.

1286
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: They're over three, then they know their season is officially

1287
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 4: over and it's all come crashing down on them.

1288
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: So I love the Bears at this number.

1289
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 4: I love the fact that I'm checking the charts right now,

1290
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: and that's what I love to this week. I'll be

1291
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: in the books talking different people. I keep a tally

1292
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: of these certain games. I can't imagine how many people

1293
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: are going to say they they're on the Bears this

1294
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: week with us. So it's just another great spot, gross

1295
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: spot that our fans are gonna hate.

1296
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: But you gotta bet got to tick the Bears here.

1297
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: You're not wrong about the Bears and the GM Ryan Pols.

1298
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: I feel like he got an extension because he won

1299
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: the press release. You know what I mean, Like anytime

1300
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: there's like a move within corporate management, a press release

1301
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: goes out or a memo goes out. And we also

1302
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: used to do this idiospan like who won the memo?

1303
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: Who like looks like they really got a lot of

1304
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: good stuff and are in a new position of power.

1305
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: He won the memo. The last two years, getting Caleb,

1306
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 1: getting Ben Johnson, the Bears are so mismanaged, and they're

1307
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: so incompetent, and the ownership group is so bad, which

1308
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: now everybody is understanding because there's been so much reporting

1309
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: out there, Like they gave that extension because they finally

1310
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: had someone within management getting good publicity who looked like

1311
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: he was doing the right things, and it turns out

1312
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: it could be all the wrong things.

1313
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: We don't know this yet.

1314
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly he didn't deserve He did not deserve yet

1315
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: the extension. We should have seen what actually happened with

1316
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: some of these assets that he's gone out and bought.

1317
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: And I think you nail the part of.

1318
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: He got that extension because he got incredibly lucky that

1319
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: Carolina took Bryce Young and that CJ Strout and totally

1320
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 4: knew their picks that they've given back to him, right

1321
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 4: if they taken CJ. I could see even if it

1322
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: wasn't that big of a difference people think because how

1323
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 4: bad the Panthers ran as an organization, they wasn't the

1324
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 4: game of the number one pick. I don't think he

1325
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: would have been a number one pick, Caroline want to

1326
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: give that out. I think they would have finished Polly

1327
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 4: five or six, whatever would have been. But just this

1328
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: past year, I couldn't stomach the fact that you passed

1329
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: on Warren the tight end and took that guy Courtland

1330
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 4: and Lowland.

1331
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: Coaston. Was it loveless? Lovelace Loveland?

1332
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: Don't. Yeah, here's the point, dude, you just it's like

1333
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: you just dipped into the Chicago Bears French chat because

1334
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: we're all like, where's the tight end that everyone had

1335
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: been saying all training camp is amazing? And meanwhile, Ty

1336
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: Warren is looking like the kind of all pro who

1337
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: just runs over people for the next ten years.

1338
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: He's a stunt.

1339
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 4: So I'm feeling Bears fans, but I know they don't

1340
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 4: want to hear it, but this is this is a

1341
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 4: great spot to back of your team. And bet on

1342
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 4: the Bears, so double misery if they lose. But I'm

1343
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 4: telling you, I love the Bears.

1344
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: In this spot.

1345
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: Loveland.

1346
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm getting so upset, I'm losing focus.

1347
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: Look all right, you mentioned desperation. You mentioned a team

1348
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: that hasn't covered. I'm going to get to that in

1349
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: one second, but first let's talk about Arizona San Francisco.

1350
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco is a short home favorite one and a half.

1351
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I think I lead Niners here because of the coaching advantage,

1352
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: some pretty major injuries in the cards secondary I think

1353
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: that maybe they are being I think that mac Jones

1354
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: could potentially be undervalued here. Don't have strong opinions yet

1355
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: on this one, but don't hate the Niners at minus

1356
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: one and a.

1357
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: Half, yeah, no, read on it. I haven't bet it.

1358
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 4: You know, I honestly thought my model to have Arizona

1359
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 4: is the favorite here. It's right along with the books

1360
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 4: that I literally have the four an Arizona minus one.

1361
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 4: So no edge or really no value to my model

1362
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: on the numb and I feel like I'm like you,

1363
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to break this one down and try

1364
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: to find an edge. It's a lot of it honestly

1365
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 4: points to me liking the Cardinals and then being a

1366
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: little undervalue just because they didn't cover last week, and

1367
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: if they maintained.

1368
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: That blowout, probably are the favorite in this spot.

1369
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: And I feel like this number is shaded towards this

1370
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers team that yeah, mac Jones did step

1371
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: in Mick throws.

1372
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: But I don't know that Saints team.

1373
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 4: Man, they just there were so many different times where

1374
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 4: they just had bat penalties or just gave the way

1375
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: to this forty Niners team where Arizona surprisingly has been

1376
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 4: pretty well coached this year. But Chad said at the top,

1377
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: the secondary of this Cardinals team got ravaged by injuries

1378
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 4: at the end of that game.

1379
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: So another game I'm not going to rush into.

1380
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: Tempted again, tempted because you can get you can get

1381
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 4: Kyler right now plus one ZH five as a dog

1382
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: on the road. But I'll be patient, wait for the

1383
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 4: injury report and see what's what with this Arizona defense,

1384
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 4: because I think we're on different sides.

1385
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: I get your love for the forty nine.

1386
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: I think they won big on the mac jone that

1387
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: we've seen the backup quarterback the one week he comes

1388
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 4: in and wins the next week. You don't want to

1389
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 4: bet on the back of the win two weeks in

1390
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 4: a rowda. So it's an interesting spot where I can't believe.

1391
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: I think Arizona's gonna be three noh to start the season.

1392
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 3: But here we are.

1393
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: You mentioned desperation, you mentioned Hungary, you mentioned a team

1394
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: that can't be zero to three, you mentioned a team

1395
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: that needs a win. I'll add for its lungs, I'm

1396
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: giving you a team that has not covered the spread

1397
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: that the perception is way way down. I'm talking about

1398
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs visiting the New York Football Giants.

1399
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: They are minus five and a half point favorus right

1400
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: now Sunday Night Football.

1401
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: Simon Hunter is the sharp? Is it square?

1402
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: Can the Chiefs be undervalued right now? As favorite? It's

1403
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: talk to me the.

1404
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: Five and a half got to listen on some days.

1405
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: That was sharp because we talked about how that number,

1406
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 4: to me just was not going to exist, and then

1407
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 4: I was going to get bet up. I'm looking at

1408
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 4: hard Rock right now in New Jersey chat it is six.

1409
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 3: So the number has moved to six.

1410
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: There's one public book or two public books out there

1411
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 4: still at five and a half. Hopefully by the time

1412
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: you hear this you can get it, because I think

1413
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: you're leaning towards the Chiefs.

1414
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: Here, Simon. Chad loves Love, Chad loves the Kansaity.

1415
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: Chiefs at five and a half, though I would still

1416
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: play it at six, like, because you know, at five

1417
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: and a half, I'm winning. At six. At six, I'm pushing.

1418
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are primed to really pull off

1419
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: a mastermind trick here, So I like the Chiefs at

1420
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: five and a half or six. Chad Loves Love, Chad loves.

1421
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: The Chiefs, and you might get the five and a

1422
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: half again down the road if you're hearing this and

1423
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 4: your book doesn't have anymore, just because the professionals are

1424
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 4: going to keep coming on this Giants team.

1425
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 3: They love them.

1426
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 4: They're there, darling, And this is obviously a Chief spot

1427
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 4: we talked about winning and hopefully covering, But my god,

1428
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 4: this is six and a half, which a couple of

1429
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: books have hit on this Giant side. So this is

1430
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: a six and a half home dog in a Sunday

1431
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 4: night game that no one's going to betting the Giants. Everyone,

1432
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 4: all public is going to be on the chief because

1433
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 4: they're like me and Chad where it's like they're not

1434
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 4: going zero to three. This Chiefs team is not going

1435
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 4: on three like this is. We got a hard talk

1436
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 4: coming up about survivor and this might be one of them.

1437
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm with Chad like the five and a half,

1438
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 4: that's like we said something that's great value, like this

1439
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 4: should be six or six and a half.

1440
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: So I would take the Chiefs.

1441
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 4: I know they have all these injuries and all that,

1442
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: but it's really were really bet on just what we've

1443
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 4: seen with Andy against bad teams. Also Spags in this

1444
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: defense against this Giants offense that looked like world beaters

1445
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 4: against Dallas, but you saw that they're really not right.

1446
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: It's all Russ thrown fifty to fifty balls downfielding and

1447
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 4: they were hitting against Dallas like wide open hitting too.

1448
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 4: It's not going to be like that against the Spags defense.

1449
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 4: So I think we're in alignment here. But just be

1450
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 4: careful out there people if you're if you're only options

1451
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 4: of six and a half, I would not take the

1452
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 4: Chiefs minus six and a half. I just I've been

1453
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 4: burned so many times by my homes. Once he crosses

1454
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 4: that six numbers, So that to me that's going to

1455
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 4: I'll try to find more trends on it. But it's

1456
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: a key number to six, and I think here it

1457
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 4: matters because the books knew what they were doing. Like

1458
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: I said Sunday, I couldn't believe they hung the five

1459
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 4: and a half two books out there even going live.

1460
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: One of the books just moved to six. There's one

1461
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 4: book left at five and a half. It's it's just

1462
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 4: a good number. So I think we line up on

1463
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 4: the same side of the Chiefs side, but it's it's unfortunate.

1464
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 3: Probably gona be six and a half our contest.

1465
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still seeing five and a half and six,

1466
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: so I don't feel bad saying that it's five and

1467
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: a half. I'm taking the five and a half Chad

1468
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: Love's love. That's what I'm doing. I feel like I

1469
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: deserve it because it's available, because it's available in a

1470
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of places. Yeah, last game Detroit at Baltimore, Baltimore's

1471
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: moved down from six to five and a half. Is

1472
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: the money on my football game? Simon, do you agree

1473
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: with the move? Is it sharp or square to be

1474
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: taking the Lions right now? Which is what the early

1475
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: move the professional betters have decided to do.

1476
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 4: It's obviously sharp side this line side, because I did

1477
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: think it was gonna go up, right. I think a

1478
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 4: couple of books opened at six. Yeah, like you just said,

1479
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: now it's down to four and a half.

1480
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: Wicked number. Wicked wicked number. Yeah.

1481
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 4: And I think this is really just because of this

1482
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 4: Ravens defense that you just said it that that Browns

1483
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 4: team was moving the ball.

1484
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: It was really on Joe Flackkoon. We talked last year.

1485
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 4: This Ravens team did struggle early the year defensively. It

1486
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: took or a little bit to get these guys right.

1487
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 4: And I think he's like my age. I think he's

1488
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 4: thirty four to thirty five their DC, their coordinator, which

1489
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Age doesn't matter, but it still shows he's

1490
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 4: a little green behind the ears. And it's like you've

1491
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 4: seen it a little bit here two years in a row,

1492
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 4: that the defense just comes out slow and they don't

1493
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: look great. And this Detroit team showed that they.

1494
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: Were still the same old offense.

1495
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: I suppose Chad, so I don't know what to do

1496
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 4: because the move the line moves so much, right, I

1497
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 4: did like the lines, I mean hard rock right now,

1498
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 4: you can still get the five and a half here

1499
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 4: in Jersey, so it's like, I'll grab that number. But

1500
01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm shocked, shocked it's moved. Oh it's five now Jersey Detroit.

1501
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: I'm shocked to move so quickly to four and a half.

1502
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: So their expecting money is coming to the lines and

1503
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: I'm looking the splits right now and it's all Ravens money.

1504
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's pretty telling that the books

1505
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 4: have moved even though so I'm taking tons of tickets

1506
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: and tons of bets on this Raven side. They've moved it,

1507
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 4: you know, a full point and a half now, down

1508
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: from six to four and a half. So we might

1509
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: end up the lines here like if this, if this

1510
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: keeps the moving, yeah, I'm gonna pretty entice because four

1511
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 4: and a half I'm taking the lions.

1512
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: I'll still grab it.

1513
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: But you know, at what point does this flip to

1514
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: a Raven's a Raven's number, because we.

1515
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: Know what laws.

1516
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: If you're taking the four and a half, if you're

1517
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: taking the four and a half, then you're gonna take

1518
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: the five, and you're gonna take the five and a half,

1519
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of which is still available.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's interesting about the Ravens. So I gave the.

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Speaker 1: At the beginning of the show. We'll take this full circle.

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Speaker 1: I gave all the stats for the Browns in that

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Speaker 1: Ravens game. Yeah, the flip side of that is that

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Speaker 1: this game was ten to three at halftime. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: scored on a putt return that led to a short

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Speaker 1: field in a field goal. They blocked a punt that

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Speaker 1: led to a short field and a touchdown. Interception led

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01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: to a short field and a touchdown. Fumble return for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. Brown's going on fourth down end of the game,

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Speaker 1: don't make it short field and a touchdown for Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: That's thirty one points off of Brown's in competence in

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Speaker 1: a game that they won forty one to seventeen. So

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Speaker 1: this defense has been middle of the road when you

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Speaker 1: look at the Lions, the Packers may be a great defense.

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Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but we know that the Bears

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Speaker 1: are amongst the league's worst defense. So you're asking yourself,

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Speaker 1: where are the Lions right now? I would expect a

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Speaker 1: competitive matchup. I feel like five and a half is

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Speaker 1: still too high for this game. This was going to

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Speaker 1: be my other Chad Loves Love and I decided I

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Speaker 1: need to go with the more desperate team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm glad we're both lined up in the

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Speaker 4: Lions because I could see the Ravens angle inside of it.

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Speaker 4: But I do agree if you dive more into that game,

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Speaker 4: and I mean, I can't leave you went back and

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Speaker 4: watch it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even need to go back and watch it, but.

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Speaker 4: Because I just I mean, it was like, that's a

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Speaker 4: painful watch watching that Browns second half against that Ravens team,

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Speaker 4: especially you had money on them.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think we're both in alignment of the offense.

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Speaker 4: As great as it looked against the Bills, they obviously

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: couldn't run the ball at all against Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: They just moved to the pass. And again that's why

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Speaker 3: the Moore is the early MVP right now. He just

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: does it all.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's really about the number, and I think

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01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 4: we're both in agreement that the lines, if they're getting rolled,

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Speaker 4: I still think they could find a way to the

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Speaker 4: back door, keep it close. And I believe the last

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Speaker 4: time they played the Ravens might have beat them by

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Speaker 4: like thirty something crazy at home in this exact spot.

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Speaker 3: So I'll dive more too. The numbers of trends in

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Speaker 3: this one.

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: But as we city right now, I think we're in

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Speaker 4: alignment that we both like the early line value, especially

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 4: five and a half before it moves down to four

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Speaker 4: and half, which is we both think that's the way

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Speaker 4: it's going, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's recap a little bit because this we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about on Thursday. We're definitely keeping a close eye on

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Speaker 1: Cleveland at Green Green Bay at Cleveland, Cleveland's plus eight

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: and a half right now. We're keeping an eye on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Patriots, definitely keeping a close eye

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Speaker 1: on the Eagles, keeping a close eye on the Jets,

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01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: the Colts. Are we keeping an eye on the Saints

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: that we feel like the Saints will Gota. We're keeping

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: an eye on the Saints. Simon says is Denver plus

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01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: two and a half. Simon also loves the Bears minus

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: one and a half. Kansas City it's at five and

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: a half or six. That's Chad Love's love. And we're

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01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on Detroit plus five and a half.

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: I covered it all on Thursday, we'll we'll narrow it down,

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: we'll recap where we think we're lining for our final five.

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01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: You for Sunday, We'll get into Survivor. We'll get into

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: brass Balls, we will get into Rock and a Hard Place,

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: Hard Rock, Better.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: Of the Week.

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Speaker 1: We will get into our moneyline, Favorite and Rob in

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 1: our money line, underog Round, Robin Sharp versus Square.

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01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: All that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Oo.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's going to be exciting Thursday. Watch or we're

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