Speaker 1: Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of
Speaker 1: Real Time Crime. I'm your host, Leo Lamar, and I
Speaker 1: have with me my compadre. You've been working on a
Speaker 1: new title, not working well enough. But it's Dmitri. You guys, Dmitri.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well? Thank you? How are you?
Speaker 1: You know? Dmitri? I think we know how I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I think we do. And just to fill other people,
Speaker 1: and Leah is still out of the country, I did
Speaker 1: buy my plane ticket back for next Tuesday. All right,
Speaker 1: Well that's I know, it's exciting. And um, if a
Speaker 1: British boyfriend, not to brag, but to brag, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you just use the boyfriend were I know? I know,
Speaker 1: I went to Europe and I bought the first house
Speaker 1: I saw, so um, just so we're clear, then, the
Speaker 1: crime that has been committed is that your single life
Speaker 1: has been assassinated by yeah, yeah, by And we're referring
Speaker 1: to Adam, right, and his name is Adam. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: poor guy. He's sitting by himself on the bed doing
Speaker 1: work and he just seems content. That's what you need.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing in a relationship. He just looked
Speaker 1: at me. Oh no, he just said help me. He
Speaker 1: does not helped me. But bad news for you, boo.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one here. He's so trapped. Okay. Anyway, um,
Speaker 1: this is a future crime for sure, a future crime
Speaker 1: of fashion. Sorry, Adam, you were great while you last it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you guys, so many hilariously odd stories this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's and it's kind of a nice change
Speaker 1: of pace from there's been some heavy stuff lately, so
Speaker 1: it's nice to get. And not any crime is good,
Speaker 1: but some of this stuff is very strange. Some of
Speaker 1: the stuff is very bizarre. And not that any of
Speaker 1: these are ha ha funny. People are dying, but they
Speaker 1: are strange, so let's put it that way. Number one,
Speaker 1: Number two, Yes, I'm in Paris for the keeping score
Speaker 1: following along with my Instagram and for those of you
Speaker 1: who are not, this has really been I'm exhausted. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm ready to come home, but I'm not not ready
Speaker 1: to come home. You've been going for like, what is
Speaker 1: it like six months? Now five weeks? Same? But you
Speaker 1: know what, I've never been to Europe, so I think
Speaker 1: I'm just at this like a backlog for all the
Speaker 1: trips I should have taken. Yeah, listen, um, and your
Speaker 1: first out of Europe and you come home with a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, not bad, right, I mean most people
Speaker 1: study it when they go to college and they spend
Speaker 1: over six months. I didn't even do that, so I
Speaker 1: would say this is my college study abroad. I also,
Speaker 1: you know, godboyfriend and um who knows, probably COVID. It's
Speaker 1: just like really hard to say what else has been
Speaker 1: going on here? So which of these things are you
Speaker 1: bringing home? Hopefully not COVID, just COVID. Okay, So, so
Speaker 1: Adam lives there, Adam lives in the UK. No one
Speaker 1: cares about besides us. Oh, I see, I've never seen
Speaker 1: to get so deflated. I don't think that just means
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about it. Yet it is
Speaker 1: not that I don't want to talk about it. He
Speaker 1: lives in London and we're going to figure out the
Speaker 1: distance situation. M All right, babe, do you care that
Speaker 1: I'm telling everyone about our love life? He said no. So,
Speaker 1: I mean he has to get used to I remember,
Speaker 1: I want to stay with this guy. He was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in your set. Don't put
Speaker 1: me in your stand up, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to date you, and you do stand
Speaker 1: up you have a podcast, he's willing to be in.
Speaker 1: It's all right, good, you gotta come along for the ride.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, if you don't want to be
Speaker 1: in my stand up set, means you don't want to
Speaker 1: be part of my life, right because your life is
Speaker 1: a stand up set. Because my life I just talked
Speaker 1: about what's going on. My life is comedy, you know.
Speaker 1: I talked about what's going on. So if people don't
Speaker 1: want to be part of that, then they don't want
Speaker 1: to be part of this anyway. So you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just get back to crime. You know what really
Speaker 1: matters today. We're gonna be talking about an Arizona man
Speaker 1: charged after mowing down and killing a bicyclist with his truck.
Speaker 1: It was a hit and run. A woman calling out
Speaker 1: an Indiana pastor for taking her virgin virginity at sixteen.
Speaker 1: A sheep found guilty and sentenced to three years in
Speaker 1: jail for killing a woman in Africa, And then we
Speaker 1: will be talking about our main crime for today, the
Speaker 1: murders of Dennis and normal Wood Druffe. A feel like
Speaker 1: we just got to clarify one thing, because we said
Speaker 1: these stories were lighter and more fun and I was
Speaker 1: really just thinking about the sheep one. Um, yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: to be honest, that's just sheep going to jail is
Speaker 1: kind of a hilarious thought. But also people are dead,
Speaker 1: so it's not that funny. It's not funny. Well you
Speaker 1: know us, and by us, I mean me. Okay, So alright,
Speaker 1: so the first story. You know, look, I know that
Speaker 1: this is a podcast and so most of you are
Speaker 1: not looking at anything, but I do need you to
Speaker 1: google this guy because we're about to roast the ship
Speaker 1: out of him. Sorry, sorry, but this man looks like
Speaker 1: an overgrown potato. He looks like he swallowed a brick.
Speaker 1: He does. He does have some sort of melting um
Speaker 1: look to him, you know, kind of a job of
Speaker 1: the hut melting. And listen, I want this clear. Now,
Speaker 1: we're we're coming out. We're not shaming this guy because
Speaker 1: he's heavy. This is not a fashiaming thing. This is
Speaker 1: a shaming this guy because he's a douche bag who
Speaker 1: killed someone on a bike and took off. If we're
Speaker 1: not allowed to roast murderers, who are we allowed to roast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, it looks like he's got a thyroid issue.
Speaker 1: M Do you think he has tonsilitis amongst the stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does look like when you get um an ice
Speaker 1: cream cone and they overdo it on the scoops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks now ed from ninety fiance won't feel so alone. Yes, good,
Speaker 1: he's got a twin brother. Well, let's so let's explain
Speaker 1: what he did. This way we can kind of hate
Speaker 1: him even more. All right, Okay, So our first case
Speaker 1: for today is an Arizona man charged after mowing down
Speaker 1: and killing a bicyclist with his truck. So the culprit
Speaker 1: has been identified as thirty nine year old Fernando Ramos
Speaker 1: and his victim identified as six year old George Cooper,
Speaker 1: who died on the scene of the hit and run.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people think that they get they're
Speaker 1: going to get away with hit and runs, do you No,
Speaker 1: I don't. There's cameras everywhere nowadays, there's also I witnesses everywhere,
Speaker 1: and it's like you're in a you're in a truck
Speaker 1: with a license plate with and this guy is This
Speaker 1: guy doesn't blend into a crowd. No, he sure does not.
Speaker 1: The Sheriff's office received multiple calls for the collision involving
Speaker 1: a car on a cyclist. When police arrived, he'd already
Speaker 1: fled the scene, and he didn't even try to help
Speaker 1: Cooper and witnesses said that they saw his Chevy truck
Speaker 1: crash into the cyclist, drag him along the road, and
Speaker 1: then run him over just before fleeing the scene. So
Speaker 1: so let's back that up for a second. So if
Speaker 1: you accidentally hit somebody and you stop, that is the
Speaker 1: best case scenario. You get out and you help him.
Speaker 1: This guy kept going, therefore dragging this guy and ultimately
Speaker 1: running him over and then taking off. So zero regard
Speaker 1: for human life. This was a sixty year old guy
Speaker 1: riding his bike. He could have saved and or helped
Speaker 1: at any point before actually murdering him, but who knows.
Speaker 1: At one point he was already dead. And I understand,
Speaker 1: I understand panic when things go wrong, but I think
Speaker 1: that's when you're really gotta take over and you've got
Speaker 1: to think, Okay, let's make this the it's this. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing with the people that running from anything.
Speaker 1: If you did it, I know you don't want to
Speaker 1: own up to it because you're terrified. But make it
Speaker 1: the best case scenario. When you people start lying to
Speaker 1: the police, it's the same, it's the same thing. Stop
Speaker 1: you're making it worse. Anytime someone runs, it's basically showing
Speaker 1: an admission of guilt. You're freaked out, you don't want
Speaker 1: to do you run. So apparently he was biking. Cooper
Speaker 1: was biking the northeastern lane of the road and had
Speaker 1: a small trailer hitch to him when he was struck.
Speaker 1: Even he a small trailer, it's like you can't miss him.
Speaker 1: It was visible. Yeah, that worried me at first when
Speaker 1: I first read that, because small trailers are usually like
Speaker 1: kids in the back, but apparently not. Like, yeah, no
Speaker 1: one else was hurt. Fortunately. Why do you think people
Speaker 1: think they can just get away with it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I think the initial thing has got to
Speaker 1: be their fear, and they're just they just want to
Speaker 1: get out of there and hope that everything's fine. But again,
Speaker 1: like we said, not the right thing to do. Two,
Speaker 1: you have to have like something like this, And I'm
Speaker 1: not this guy. I don't put him in the same
Speaker 1: the same category as someone who goes out and and
Speaker 1: commits a murder on purpose, because I do think this
Speaker 1: was an accident that he panicked and ran from, but
Speaker 1: he still now did murder someone. Right? Do you think
Speaker 1: he knew he was dead when he fled or do
Speaker 1: you think he just thought maybe he was injured and
Speaker 1: someone come and help him. I mean, why not check?
Speaker 1: That's the best. Why not check? Why not check? But also,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. This guy has super distinctive features. Like
Speaker 1: I said, he looks like the Michelin man. He's not Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not blending into a crowd, right, So so how
Speaker 1: does he think that someone who looks this distinctive will
Speaker 1: just be able to not get away with it? That
Speaker 1: he doesn't think he's gonna get recognized and caught. He's
Speaker 1: not an average looking person. It's very specific, very specific.
Speaker 1: Like imagine if you had balls but they were under
Speaker 1: your ears. Well, give me a moment on that one,
Speaker 1: because I haven't thought about that before. Um, he looks
Speaker 1: like he was a snake that just swallowed a mouse.
Speaker 1: Like that's where we're at with this guy. It looks
Speaker 1: like he's a flesh tire, a flesh colored tire around
Speaker 1: his neck. Yeah, Um, you're right. He looks like one
Speaker 1: big testicle, just live action, Mr potato Head. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: this is this is not even someone that is gonna
Speaker 1: be like if he's seen, if there's like a red
Speaker 1: light camera right or any one of those things, you're
Speaker 1: going to see him through the windshield. Didn't know exactly
Speaker 1: who this is. This isn't the type of guy that
Speaker 1: you run into every day. So clearly again not thinking
Speaker 1: because he got he did get Thankfully he did get caught.
Speaker 1: I just he did. He did because he was so
Speaker 1: specific looking that they were able to track him down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not to be lost in this in the in
Speaker 1: the roasting that we're doing with him, or the anger
Speaker 1: that we're throwing towards him, is that a sixty year
Speaker 1: old guy was out riding his bike and and was killed.
Speaker 1: And we don't know at what point he died, but
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you if he dragged him and then
Speaker 1: ran over him, if he had stopped right away and
Speaker 1: done something, then things could have at least been better.
Speaker 1: I wonder. Yeah, man, this is one of those things
Speaker 1: that just makes you feel like it wasn't an accident
Speaker 1: because it's so strange. Yeah, I mean, it could have
Speaker 1: been there could have been like a road raiser, something right,
Speaker 1: something so odd, not that we're upstanding citizens or the
Speaker 1: you know everybody I am. I was just throwing Actually
Speaker 1: I was throwing myself in the category with you. I
Speaker 1: figured you were already in that category of not being um.
Speaker 1: But shit, guys, do the right thing, like try try
Speaker 1: and act like you're living in a society. If you
Speaker 1: do something that's an accident, limit limit the repercussions for
Speaker 1: yourself and for others. Dmitri. The heart and soul of
Speaker 1: this podcast mostly just the soul and the heart. But
Speaker 1: there's no brains, so we're no brains, no brains. But
Speaker 1: but that's fine, we don't need that here. And you guys,
Speaker 1: this next one, I mean, this next hot topic is
Speaker 1: really heartbreaking, not that they're all not heartbreaking, but this
Speaker 1: one specifically affects me. So a woman calls out an
Speaker 1: Indiana pastor for taking her virginity at the age of
Speaker 1: sixty mean, and there is a full clip where someone
Speaker 1: has filmed part of it. Someone has filmed part of
Speaker 1: her going up and yelling at this pastor in front
Speaker 1: of the church. So if you want to listen to that,
Speaker 1: go ahead and take a listen later. But it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's did you watch any of that? Did watched the
Speaker 1: whole thing? And it starts with this pastor speaking to
Speaker 1: his congregation and saying, oh, I did something twenty years ago. Um,
Speaker 1: you know I committed adultery. Um to say, plainly, I
Speaker 1: didn't make a mistake, I didn't have any I didn't
Speaker 1: have an affair. I just had a misjudgment and I sinned.
Speaker 1: And I'm here, I'm and I feel like I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you. So I'm asking you for for your forgiveness.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, as you think these parishioners with
Speaker 1: this very accepting of him coming clean about something he
Speaker 1: said it was twenty years ago. Then when he's done,
Speaker 1: this woman comes up. Wait wait But also before you
Speaker 1: stay that, he got around of applause after that from
Speaker 1: the congregation standing ovation. If I'm a standing ovation, okay,
Speaker 1: And it's like bos Lerman got a twenty minute standing
Speaker 1: ovation at can at the end of Elvis, like that
Speaker 1: was deserved different reasons. This this seems a little odd, okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: please to me. So So okay, I get parishioners see
Speaker 1: their pastor come clean and say I too, ifs, and
Speaker 1: maybe they're like, okay, so they give him a standing ovation.
Speaker 1: But he did this, and he had to have knowingly
Speaker 1: done this, so she must have said, hey, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell people about this, because then he came clean
Speaker 1: what he claims after twenty years. She gets up and
Speaker 1: goes to the microphone with her now husband and says,
Speaker 1: it wasn't twenty years ago. It was twenty seven years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was sixteen, and all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: can feel through this video, you can feel the energy
Speaker 1: in this in this church shift, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's dead silent. She goes on to describe some more stuff,
Speaker 1: and she, you know, and she said she wasn't the
Speaker 1: only one. That he molested women fifteen sixteen seventeen, went
Speaker 1: on for years, and that he took her virginity on
Speaker 1: the floor of his office. Ye, and she says, do
Speaker 1: you remember that. I know you remember that, And she
Speaker 1: approached with her husband, who then also took the microphone,
Speaker 1: and he was saying, you know, I met her right
Speaker 1: after this, and you know, we started dating right after this,
Speaker 1: and I remember all this going down and and this
Speaker 1: is all true, and it's interesting because it seemed planned
Speaker 1: to do it with her there, But there's something that
Speaker 1: makes me feel like either she agreed to just yes
Speaker 1: and it and then decided to kind of just hijack
Speaker 1: and tell the full story. And she was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I can call them, I can call these other women
Speaker 1: right now, and I can have them on the phone
Speaker 1: stating exactly what you did to them, or or do
Speaker 1: you think that. I mean, it's just weird because you know,
Speaker 1: obviously he's stepping down from the congregation that he was
Speaker 1: saying that he sinned and that he didn't make a misjudgment,
Speaker 1: that it was just sinning. No, that's a miss judgments.
Speaker 1: It's everything he said it wasn't along with what he
Speaker 1: said it was is all of that. Yeah, it's a mistakes,
Speaker 1: he said. I didn't make a mistake. You made many mistakes.
Speaker 1: He says, I committed adultery. And I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: cheating on your wife was not the worst thing that
Speaker 1: you did in that scenario, So don't lead with that.
Speaker 1: This guy is a full and piece of ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then so I don't know if there was an
Speaker 1: agreement where he's like, I'm gonna come clean, but then
Speaker 1: he gets up there and he lies about the facts,
Speaker 1: and it's like, so, so now you're just making it
Speaker 1: better on yourself. I wonder, you know what, I wonder
Speaker 1: if she said she was going to come forward and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, I have an idea. How
Speaker 1: about I just tell everyone in the congregation what I've done,
Speaker 1: and let's let's call it even instead of her, you know,
Speaker 1: going because the me too movement is I mean, it
Speaker 1: could have been that. And then she just decided to
Speaker 1: grandstand it. And she said, so, I guess it went
Speaker 1: on for a for a while. And she said, you know,
Speaker 1: as she lived for twenty seven years in this prison,
Speaker 1: and she said, wasn't till she got married with this
Speaker 1: husband and she found the strength to to not feel
Speaker 1: shame for this. And she says she was sixteen. She
Speaker 1: he groomed her, and then he carried on this thing
Speaker 1: as if they were it was consensual, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And now she's like, so now she says, she's finally
Speaker 1: feeling free for having completed twenty seven years she lived
Speaker 1: with this because she's strong. No, it went on and on,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just for her, it was other women
Speaker 1: as well. And I'm sure they'll come forward and share
Speaker 1: all of their stories. And I think, however, this was
Speaker 1: manufactured to go down, you know, I I think she's
Speaker 1: really brave. The fact that she just came forward in
Speaker 1: front of all these people is talking about getting molested,
Speaker 1: and I mean rape, right, I mean this is rape.
Speaker 1: It's super brave, and it's it's you know, hopefully it's
Speaker 1: empowering to the other women that that are feeling that
Speaker 1: shame as she was feeling to to start to heal,
Speaker 1: is to start to feel better. And I think she
Speaker 1: did it for them as much as she did it
Speaker 1: for herself. And her husband seems like a sweet, loving,
Speaker 1: really compassionate man who also, unfortunately, it does feel a
Speaker 1: lot of times like women need a man to back
Speaker 1: them up for people to take their claim seriously, right,
Speaker 1: And so in that same video, you'll see when I said,
Speaker 1: the room started to shift, the people started. The persons
Speaker 1: who once stood and applauded him started calling back out
Speaker 1: is this true? How old was she? So they started
Speaker 1: peppering him with questions and that you could feel they
Speaker 1: were I'm actually surprised he got out of there alive,
Speaker 1: because you could feel them the anger starting to brew
Speaker 1: up there. Right, it got really hot, really quick, as
Speaker 1: it should have. And you know, I think he tried
Speaker 1: to go out gracefully, but now it's disgracefully because however
Speaker 1: grateful you can make. Yeah, he tried to make it
Speaker 1: all poetic. I didn't make a mistake, I didn't have
Speaker 1: an affair. I've sinned, and now I'm asking for your forgiveness,
Speaker 1: thank you. And he gets a standing ovation. He must
Speaker 1: have been right. He must have been thinking, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: getting out of this. Yeah, literally right up. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm so glad she got up and did what she did,
Speaker 1: the strength that it took for her to do that,
Speaker 1: and then for everybody to all of a sudden you know,
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing at all, but just because
Speaker 1: of the likeness of it, when you go back to
Speaker 1: the Will Smith thing at the Oscars, remember everybody applauded
Speaker 1: him after the thing. It was like he got a
Speaker 1: standing ovation. And it's like, I wanted people to turn
Speaker 1: right then and there. And you know what, when when
Speaker 1: I saw the standing ovation at the beginning of this
Speaker 1: was like, I really hope there's more to this video.
Speaker 1: And when they started to turn and they then you
Speaker 1: could see them as she and her husband were walking out.
Speaker 1: They were reaching out to her, and they were and
Speaker 1: there was you know, lending her support and saying that
Speaker 1: they were there and and asking for forgiveness for something
Speaker 1: that they hadn't done. I think the difference between Hollywood
Speaker 1: and church is that church believes in hell and there's
Speaker 1: no God, there's nothing, just straight up else. So I
Speaker 1: used it burgatory, I said, hell I said, but I said, no,
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's, um, Hellywood, pretty pretty clear
Speaker 1: why these people start I I hope. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: actually happy that they turned and started asking questions. I
Speaker 1: mean him, and I'm glad. Yeah, because he, you know,
Speaker 1: like we said, he thought, Okay, i'm gonna do this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave out some info. I'm gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: I'll look like a hero, I'm gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1: And he didn't, which is exactly the beginning of what
Speaker 1: he deserves, lying by omission. Yeah. Um, but what I'm
Speaker 1: tired of. I'm tired of is is people you know,
Speaker 1: using their religion as like a get out of jail
Speaker 1: free card. Okay, we see it a lot nowadays. We
Speaker 1: see it with guns, we see it with all this
Speaker 1: different stuff, and it's like, well, you know God told
Speaker 1: me to do this, or you can't do this because
Speaker 1: Jesus says it in the Bible. You're not speaking for him, okay,
Speaker 1: And you shouldn't be making laws for other people. So
Speaker 1: that goes. There's a lot of stuff. Now I'm talking
Speaker 1: about guns, I'm talking about abortion. I'm talking about people
Speaker 1: pointing fingers that like family values and and divorced families
Speaker 1: and religion, and that's their excuse for everything. And this
Speaker 1: guy right here, he tried to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: That was his excuse. I've sinned and now I'm coming clean.
Speaker 1: Thank you for forgiving me. It's like, hold up, we're
Speaker 1: not playing that game anymore. And I am a religious person.
Speaker 1: I did grow up going to a church, but I
Speaker 1: don't I don't buy the free pass thing. This really
Speaker 1: reminds me of the Kevin Spacey ordeal, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: is now going to be representing himself in court because
Speaker 1: he wants more stage time. Yea perfect, but do you
Speaker 1: remember when Kevin Spacey got me too? It's like, whoever
Speaker 1: Kevin space seing this pastor is working with for PR
Speaker 1: that person is getting paid millions of dollars. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have a very good pr person. Kevin Spacey was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I did read a young man, But
Speaker 1: it's because I was afraid to tell people I'm gay.
Speaker 1: I'm gay now see, and and can't can't you just
Speaker 1: applaud me for the fact that I'm coming out and
Speaker 1: I'm a proud gay man. We're like, huh right, hold up,
Speaker 1: and you know what that's excuse it's the exact same
Speaker 1: thing as that guy we talked about before that the
Speaker 1: hit and run. No, because you know why while you
Speaker 1: were doing what you're telling us you were doing with
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey was saying, you dragged somebody else down, and
Speaker 1: you hurt someone else beyond you know, hopefully not beyond
Speaker 1: repair at all, but certainly a long journey to deal
Speaker 1: with that. And no, you don't when you do that
Speaker 1: and you take someone else down than the the hero
Speaker 1: the heroic story of I was afraid and now I'm not. No,
Speaker 1: because you ruined other people's lives, right, And I just
Speaker 1: think that these people who think so highly of themselves,
Speaker 1: who are like, yeah, so I did that thing, but
Speaker 1: you know, I still deserve applause. It's like, what right,
Speaker 1: the guy still deserve to be loved by everyone after
Speaker 1: I it's like, huh and I'm being I'm being honest
Speaker 1: and I'm coming out about it, yeah twenty seven years later,
Speaker 1: because yeah, same thing with Kevin Spacey. Yeah you're coming
Speaker 1: clean because you got busted right right right right? Uh
Speaker 1: them both moving on. Yeah. And also it's like, how
Speaker 1: dare you do that to the gay community, right right,
Speaker 1: because there's people that are that are legitimately struggling to
Speaker 1: come out and they're not doing the things that you did,
Speaker 1: but you're making it harder on on everybody, and you're
Speaker 1: being selfish and you're yeah self or whatever. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: Happy Pride month. Alright, So we're moving along to our
Speaker 1: next hot topic. This one is so bonkers, you guys.
Speaker 1: A sheep has found guilty and sentenced to three years
Speaker 1: in jail for killing a woman in Africa. I think
Speaker 1: that a sheep has been found guilty and has been
Speaker 1: sentenced to prison. I think Peter has gone too far
Speaker 1: this time. We don't they don't need equal rights, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like this is the vegan movement
Speaker 1: has to stop. I've never heard of an animal being
Speaker 1: sent to prison. No, this is bizarre. So the sheep
Speaker 1: has been found guilty and sentenced to three years in
Speaker 1: jail for killing a woman in Sudan, Africa, in an
Speaker 1: area called a Coulo. I probably mispronounced that I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you to Matrid. It's reported that earlier this month, the
Speaker 1: police in South Sudan took a sheep into custody. Do
Speaker 1: you think that they interrogated it? Where were you the
Speaker 1: night of April fifteen at nine pm? You know, it's
Speaker 1: like what um? After it attacked a forty five year
Speaker 1: old woman named a Dude Chapping. It's reported that the
Speaker 1: ram repeatedly headbutted her and broke her ribs. Now, I
Speaker 1: gotta know what the sheep said. Its motive was right,
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's the thing. We we interrogated it,
Speaker 1: it was found it found it guilty. It's like okay,
Speaker 1: so but also so unfortunately, while she was recovering from
Speaker 1: the sheep attack, she passed away from her injuries. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say, but they literally
Speaker 1: said they apprehended the ram and then put it into custody.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think it's a there's
Speaker 1: a bail set for it. So I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put sent this to three years in jail. So there
Speaker 1: are they gonna put this sheep in a in a prison, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is just a zoo, right, because when
Speaker 1: you put an animal behind bars, it's a zoo. First
Speaker 1: of all, clap clap, clap, Peter loves you. Second of all,
Speaker 1: the owner, by the way, they said, is innocent and
Speaker 1: the ram is the one who penetrated the crime. Perpetrated
Speaker 1: I'm I I have something on the mind. Who knows
Speaker 1: what it could be, but um, I'm gonna need a moment. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can take the girl out of Paris, but you
Speaker 1: can't take that I'm gonna stop the girl. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So the owner is innocent and the ram is the
Speaker 1: one who perpetrated the crime, so it deserves to be arrested.
Speaker 1: And apparently the ram was a neighbor of this woman.
Speaker 1: And then later on they said that the case will
Speaker 1: be forwarded to customary court where the case can be
Speaker 1: handled amicably. Okay, So I appreciate the fact that the
Speaker 1: owner is innocent, because unless he trained this sheep to
Speaker 1: head butt and like showed her showed him a picture
Speaker 1: and center after that, then you know, fine, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad that the owner is not being you know, dragged
Speaker 1: into something because his sheep did something ridiculous. I agree wholeheartedly. However,
Speaker 1: I think everyone probably listening to this podcast or you know,
Speaker 1: at least that lives in the United States, is used
Speaker 1: to when when an animal attacks and kills someone, that
Speaker 1: animal is then euthanized. Yes, like when dogs bite humans,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Right, and that fact, there was a story
Speaker 1: I just saw this morning. There was a nine year
Speaker 1: old in like Washington that was playing hide and seek
Speaker 1: outside and I I was like a mountain, lion or
Speaker 1: something attacked her. She's in the hospital. I believe she's
Speaker 1: going to be fine, but it's like so something like that, right,
Speaker 1: remember the kid that fell in the zoo in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and the and then they ended up, you know, killing
Speaker 1: the gorilla like this. I'm not I'm not taking one
Speaker 1: side of the other, but that's the stuff that happens.
Speaker 1: The fact that this sheep is being sentenced to prison
Speaker 1: shows you a difference in these countries. Well. Also, if
Speaker 1: the sheep was a person, wouldn't they be put under
Speaker 1: death row perhaps perhaps or whatever, depending on what the
Speaker 1: laws are there. Yeah, I don't know what the I
Speaker 1: think that's what it comes down to. It's a good point.
Speaker 1: Whatever the laws are, they're they're very bizarre. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many animals the animals they have killing humans
Speaker 1: there and how many times they've had a trial like this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like they were scrambling for pressing it right. Well. Also,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, how long did the sheep live? Because
Speaker 1: three years could be a life sentence. True, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the lifespan of a sheep. I think
Speaker 1: it's time to go to break And this has been
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Speaker 1: Double Life, Double Murder is now streaming on Hulu and
Speaker 1: there's a twenty investigation. Now. If you have not heard
Speaker 1: about the murders of a married couple, Dennis and Normal Woodruff,
Speaker 1: you're about two. So what happened? Here's the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1: A friend discovered married couple Dennis and Normal Wouldroffe murdered
Speaker 1: in their home located in Rose City, Texas, in October
Speaker 1: two thousand five. Authorities quickly suspected the couple's son, Brandon,
Speaker 1: who was the last person to see his parents alive.
Speaker 1: According to reports, Brandon had dinner with his parents and
Speaker 1: leader left for Abilene. Friends of Brandon testified that he
Speaker 1: was supposed to pick them up at five PM and
Speaker 1: Dallas the day of the murder for right to Abilene University,
Speaker 1: but didn't arrive until ten pm. After ten pm, Dennis
Speaker 1: and Norma not good. Doesn't look good for Brandon. Dennis
Speaker 1: and Norma were found with bullets and stab wounds to
Speaker 1: their necks and faces. So this is a huge act
Speaker 1: of violence, right because someone wouldn't normally be dead after
Speaker 1: one bullet perhaps one stab wound, but it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a just a quick crime where you think, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what have I done? Clearly when you follow
Speaker 1: stuff up with more, right, whoever, this person was really
Speaker 1: one of these people dead dead dead dead for sure.
Speaker 1: The mother had multiple gunshots to the face and her
Speaker 1: throat was slit, so you know, someone who was very
Speaker 1: angry or really wanted to make sure that there was
Speaker 1: no chance that they would live. Okay, So the sun
Speaker 1: is the is the main suspect, and like, like we
Speaker 1: pointed out, he was supposed to be somewhere at five,
Speaker 1: he didn't show up till after ten. If it's legitimately,
Speaker 1: is just a case of running five hours late. Not
Speaker 1: the great not the best day for that to have
Speaker 1: that have been done. Okay, So then authorities say I
Speaker 1: recovered weapon, a dagger with one of the doms DNA
Speaker 1: that they said belonged to Brandon could have been used
Speaker 1: in the crime, and they found it in a barn,
Speaker 1: and investigators argued that the dagger was the weapon used
Speaker 1: to stab the couple, but Brandon claimed that his father
Speaker 1: had accidentally cut his hand with it long before. This
Speaker 1: is starting to sound like the amount of ox case
Speaker 1: records show that there were no signs of forced entry
Speaker 1: or stolen items, and that the killer had cleaned up
Speaker 1: in a bathroom of the home before fleeing. This scene
Speaker 1: sounds like someone who A knew the property well, b
Speaker 1: had access to the property. See, didn't want anything besides
Speaker 1: the death of these two people. Right, um, D knew
Speaker 1: where the bathrooms we were and felt felt clear enough
Speaker 1: on whatever these two people's schedules were, that no one
Speaker 1: else was going to come to the house at any
Speaker 1: point for anything, right, good point, because they felt they
Speaker 1: had enough time to clean up in the bathroom. Brandon
Speaker 1: was arrested six days later after authorities found irregularities in
Speaker 1: his testimony. Oh really Okay, so you guys, now we
Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty. A jury found Brandon guilty
Speaker 1: after hearing from the persecution that Brandon had killed his
Speaker 1: parents to receive their life insurance and live freely his
Speaker 1: secret life as a gay man in Dallas. So apparently
Speaker 1: he was going back and forth from university where he
Speaker 1: would go to Dallas and actually go out of state
Speaker 1: from Texas to film adult movies. Ak he was doing porn,
Speaker 1: gay porn, and he was a gay man in this
Speaker 1: other life that he had, but he even had a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and I guess he was just living a full on
Speaker 1: double life. So he was sentenced to life in prison
Speaker 1: without the possibility of parole. He's already served thirteen years
Speaker 1: of his life sentence and he maintains that he is innocent.
Speaker 1: He claims that this is an anti gay bias influenced
Speaker 1: people and the jury in his Texas Bible Belt City
Speaker 1: did not want him to be free, and since they
Speaker 1: had no other suspects, they just wanted to pin it
Speaker 1: on him, and Brandon says that he was falsely characterized
Speaker 1: as a wild gay man who was living a double
Speaker 1: life by the persecution in order to convince a very
Speaker 1: conservative jury. He said, I'm innocent. I didn't kill my
Speaker 1: parents at all. I think you should look at the
Speaker 1: totality of the evidence instead of pointing to any other information.
Speaker 1: Although I did read that I guess his mom had
Speaker 1: blonde hairs in her hand when she was found dead,
Speaker 1: and they never tested the DNA on it, and they
Speaker 1: don't know where the hair is now. He does have
Speaker 1: blonde a share, by the way, and you would assume
Speaker 1: that it was her trying to defend herself against the
Speaker 1: killer and that would probably really lock In this case,
Speaker 1: authorities claimed that Brandon was living this double life, skipping
Speaker 1: college classes, going to Dallas for wild adventures. You know,
Speaker 1: this is usually what the what um what the prosecution
Speaker 1: does when they're trying to pin it on some and
Speaker 1: as they paint someone a villain, which is exactly what
Speaker 1: happened to a man in Ox case, when that Italian
Speaker 1: prosecutor was trying to paint her as Foxy Knoxy, you know,
Speaker 1: this sex enthused center who was having these like villainous
Speaker 1: sex parties that were Satan involved. It's like what anyway,
Speaker 1: so they try to character but so and you could
Speaker 1: see why this would work in a small Texas town.
Speaker 1: Exactly having like weird you know, weird homosexual you know
Speaker 1: parties and filming that is enough to get people in
Speaker 1: a small Texas town riled up and wanting to shut
Speaker 1: that down. So you could see that as as potentially
Speaker 1: what happened. Right, And so his grandmother, Bonnie, has stood
Speaker 1: by his innocence, paying for his legal fees and supporting
Speaker 1: his attempts to appeal his conviction. The Innocence Project of
Speaker 1: Texas is now reviewing his case and the gun connected
Speaker 1: to the killings was never found, but it's believed he
Speaker 1: stole a gun from his ex girlfriend's mother's house, and
Speaker 1: apparently the mother said that the gun and bullets were missing,
Speaker 1: and it is exactly the type of bullets that were
Speaker 1: found at the scene, and it's very possible he had
Speaker 1: been there the weekend before that he had stolen the gun,
Speaker 1: but no one can prove it because they haven't found
Speaker 1: the gun. But it seems a little too convenient in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that she is in fact telling the truth.
Speaker 1: The problem for him is he says, don't look at
Speaker 1: the fact that I had this other life going on.
Speaker 1: Look at the what do you say that the totality, right,
Speaker 1: And he said, look at that. But right now, that's
Speaker 1: all still pointing to him, right, there's no other suspect. Look,
Speaker 1: he grew up super popular that he was really beloved.
Speaker 1: He was outgoing, he was an animal lover. He was
Speaker 1: president of the Future Farmers of America. He had a
Speaker 1: steady girlfriend, and he was voted most school spirit. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you have someone who's painted as this
Speaker 1: really good kid, it's um away for them to say, no,
Speaker 1: how could it be him? He's so gentle, he's so lovely,
Speaker 1: everyone loved him. He couldn't be him being the murderer.
Speaker 1: I find the Yeah, I find the life insurance thing
Speaker 1: a little more difficult to believe because but I know
Speaker 1: people do this, but killing people doesn't get you that
Speaker 1: life insurance right away. You're going to be a suspect,
Speaker 1: especially because of it. I can't imagine that he did
Speaker 1: this because he wanted that. It seems way too careless.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's FROs But that could be
Speaker 1: a reason, because if you start back a second, you
Speaker 1: froze there, you said. I just wonder. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if his parents were against homosexuality, and so he felt
Speaker 1: like he could never be himself or come out. And
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's something that's just been brewing for a while. Maybe,
Speaker 1: and that's certainly a storyline that that could be feasible.
Speaker 1: But know, just leave, man, leave. We need a motive.
Speaker 1: And and so that's the other thing is like I
Speaker 1: want more information about this case, and obviously I think
Speaker 1: we'll receive it on But apparently eight of the twelve
Speaker 1: jurors admitted to believing homosexuality was morally wrong. Do you
Speaker 1: think that they should have been able to serve on
Speaker 1: the jury. No, no, I don't. Uh no, I don't,
Speaker 1: because that's the main thing that they're painting him with.
Speaker 1: And you know, then you're getting into his lifestyle. Is
Speaker 1: fine if if he was doing those things, that is
Speaker 1: in his right to do. But that's what it goes
Speaker 1: back to what we said earlier in the show. You
Speaker 1: can't then have someone come in that's super religious and
Speaker 1: be like, no, I think that's wrong. Therefore I think
Speaker 1: he killed his parents. There's two different things. I know.
Speaker 1: I also, you know it took him thirteen years to
Speaker 1: finally give a TV interview and explain why he's innocent.
Speaker 1: That seems like a very long time. I feel like
Speaker 1: you would want to do earlier if you were Indeed,
Speaker 1: I feel like you would want to do that earlier.
Speaker 1: This feels like some sort of weird last Hurrah cry
Speaker 1: for attention, wait to Gardner support. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who the other suspects are.
Speaker 1: It just seems like all science point to him. But
Speaker 1: I think the question is why is it really all
Speaker 1: about this life? Like, did anybody interview the grandmother? Was
Speaker 1: she on the stand during this the grandmother that supports
Speaker 1: him that I don't know, because I'd like to hear
Speaker 1: her story about the about the family dynamic and this
Speaker 1: and that and why she thinks he didn't do it
Speaker 1: or what I mean. Listen, this is this is the
Speaker 1: movie Watcher and me going into this. But it's like
Speaker 1: who knows, you know, like American Beauty, who knows what's
Speaker 1: going on with the dad? Right? Who knows what the
Speaker 1: situation was growing up, if there was any kind of
Speaker 1: physical abuse or this and that. So I think all
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff plays into this. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can just pit it on that he was
Speaker 1: a while guy. And this reminds me of did you
Speaker 1: ever hear that there was that case, um, that whole
Speaker 1: family got murdered in like Indiana and wanted It was
Speaker 1: a pastor and his family and this is Wasn't this
Speaker 1: a case we covered last week Piketown massacres. No, this
Speaker 1: is oh no, no, no, this is a different family
Speaker 1: that murdered people, got it, got my mom? So the
Speaker 1: whole family, well, I mean sorry, there's so many of them,
Speaker 1: so and so. Um, what it came out to was
Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, the father and his son were fighting,
Speaker 1: the son wanted to go to the prom. Father said no,
Speaker 1: So then they said he went and killed his whole
Speaker 1: family because he wanted to go. Because then he went
Speaker 1: to the prom and they picked him up. I didn't
Speaker 1: know his family was dead. It was this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, that's what it was. He was this
Speaker 1: and they were all quick to point it out and
Speaker 1: to shut the case. And this that now another true
Speaker 1: crime podcast. And I don't mind giving their name because
Speaker 1: they don't do what we do. But they counterclock did
Speaker 1: something and they went through and investigated this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and now they're like, oh, there was a tie where
Speaker 1: somebody owed money in Florida and they found this whole
Speaker 1: other thing going on. And that kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of this story because it's so obvious that it was
Speaker 1: this guy. But you know what, if you had people
Speaker 1: that knew what they were doing, they could have shown
Speaker 1: up and they would make it seem like it was
Speaker 1: They could easily make it seem like it was someone else.
Speaker 1: Get out of there, clean up what they needed to
Speaker 1: clean up, get out of there, and make it seem like, oh,
Speaker 1: the son's the obvious choice. So I don't I can't
Speaker 1: say for a percent that that he did it, because
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of variables in play. Well.
Speaker 1: Apparently authorities claimed that his timeline of events were super
Speaker 1: inconsistent when he was asked about the murders. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen this before where they get forced confection force
Speaker 1: confessions because they're nervous or shocked or or physically harmed
Speaker 1: into giving a false confession. They just want to go home,
Speaker 1: or they want to take a deal or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: because they're scared and afraid. But apparently so they were
Speaker 1: killed in a brand new home. They moved to a
Speaker 1: new home. They were downsizing, and they were killed in
Speaker 1: their new home. And according to the timeline, there was
Speaker 1: maybe about like nineteen minutes in between when people actually
Speaker 1: saw Brandon and the last phone call that was made
Speaker 1: to the mom by someone else that the murders could
Speaker 1: have happened in if it was Brandon. And that's a
Speaker 1: pretty short amount of time. It is a short amount
Speaker 1: of time. And did they go out to dinner or
Speaker 1: were they because I would love to know if they
Speaker 1: were out to dinner, I'd love to know people that
Speaker 1: saw them there was that, you know, a contentious dinner.
Speaker 1: Were they arguing where they there was between them, any
Speaker 1: any people that saw them before that, and the grandmother
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from. Yeah, it's interesting because this
Speaker 1: is a little reminiscent of the Gabby Petito Brian laundry case,
Speaker 1: where you know, you see all these photos on Instagram
Speaker 1: and then being a super happy couple and everything's hunky dory,
Speaker 1: and then when you look at the nitty gritty, they're
Speaker 1: fighting constantly and there's physical and verbal abuse happening regularly,
Speaker 1: and we just really don't know what the picture looks
Speaker 1: like up close and personal. But that's also don't know
Speaker 1: until it becomes a TV movie, exactly until Netflix luss, Now,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know? Man? This case is so heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: but it's interesting because there are just no other suspects,
Speaker 1: at least in the amount of Knox case. There was
Speaker 1: another suspect, like there's usually or theories, even theories. There's
Speaker 1: there are no theories about anyone else, right, No, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that there isn't you know, something like
Speaker 1: guy was pointing up before there could be something someone
Speaker 1: could have stopped by in between that time. So so
Speaker 1: random and seems so unbelievable, but to be honest, all
Speaker 1: of this seems so unbelievable because that's just not who
Speaker 1: we are. But it goes back to what we said,
Speaker 1: man like, if you're there are plenty of people that
Speaker 1: don't like their kids, There are plenty of kids that
Speaker 1: don't like their parents. Just if if, if they don't
Speaker 1: agree with your life, just move on. Just you know,
Speaker 1: there's always the possibility of new neighborhood. Maybe people saw
Speaker 1: who was moving in. Maybe maybe we don't know what
Speaker 1: the parents were involved in, and there was something much
Speaker 1: cheaper happening, just like in the Piketown murders where then
Speaker 1: suddenly they started chasing it back to Carton. Well whatever
Speaker 1: they chase down to um anyway. Um, So yeah, we
Speaker 1: just don't know. But I would suggest watching the Hulu
Speaker 1: show Double Life, Double Murder, And what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Do you think that Brandon
Speaker 1: killed his parents brutally murdered his parents for life insurance
Speaker 1: so that he could start his life anew and have freedom.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Or do you think that this
Speaker 1: case will probably go unsolved and that they may never
Speaker 1: find the killer. Yeah, I mean call and let us know,
Speaker 1: But I think me personally, the life insurance seems like
Speaker 1: a far fetched to me, but I know people have
Speaker 1: done it, and I could buy that the jury was
Speaker 1: a little skewed because it was a small town of
Speaker 1: Texas and what his lifestyle was doesn't mean he didn't
Speaker 1: do it. That's I mean. I could also if I
Speaker 1: want to go running why old with my thoughts here,
Speaker 1: I could think maybe somebody set him up to be
Speaker 1: guilty because of that, because they had a problem with that,
Speaker 1: because they had a problem to parents or whatever. So oh,
Speaker 1: the plot thick ends Tomitri right, good, good one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna virtually high five you appreciate that, Yeah, guys, d
Speaker 1: M s let us know what you think. Also for
Speaker 1: the people who are sending me d ms like hey,
Speaker 1: I've got two crimes for you with video that no
Speaker 1: one knows about. I don't want those. Please send them
Speaker 1: to the police. I am very worried about those. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or send them to Dmitri. I'm not the person that
Speaker 1: should be looking at those, um, but I do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Especially has a boyfriend. She spends way less time in
Speaker 1: her M just kidding, she's there. Keep writing to her. No,
Speaker 1: my manager told me he was like, uh so you're
Speaker 1: getting some weird d M s. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: cool anyway, but do call us, you know, like why
Speaker 1: not call us and leave a voicemail. And if the
Speaker 1: voicemails like, hey, I saw these two crimes and I've
Speaker 1: got videos, fine, fine, but you know, just let us
Speaker 1: know if there's a casey thing we should look into.
Speaker 1: We're always having our eyes and ears open for the
Speaker 1: hot tips, except for when they should go to the
Speaker 1: police directly. Well, but I also feel comfortable to listen
Speaker 1: if you if this is what are safe space, and
Speaker 1: you want to bring it to us, then we can
Speaker 1: discuss it and maybe send it onto the police. Yeah. Actually, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, Dmitri. You're right, You're right, right right, if
Speaker 1: you have information, get it out there, you know what.
Speaker 1: I guess, that's what we're here for. And if you've
Speaker 1: committed a crime and you're trying to make it better
Speaker 1: on yourself by not coming clean, just don't make it
Speaker 1: make it easy and clean on our voicemail. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not wearable. But but if we're are safe before
Speaker 1: your safe space, this is right. Disagree, agains you know what, fine,
Speaker 1: call us, but you know, I keep the really intense
Speaker 1: ones off the voicemail. I mean, I guess they're all intense.
Speaker 1: Huh No. It's like if you're like, oh, I committed
Speaker 1: petty theft and stole the staplers from my old place
Speaker 1: of work, you know, let us know. Yeah. Wow. If
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, why Jay walked in l A, you know,
Speaker 1: keep that to yourself. That's very serious. It's very very serious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't. We can't handle something like that. That's a
Speaker 1: crime punishable by death in Los Angeles. Imagine if a
Speaker 1: sheep jay walked. All right, Well, I think we've come
Speaker 1: to I think we've come to the end. And just
Speaker 1: as a reminder, you guys, the voicemail is eight six
Speaker 1: six twenty one crime. That's eight six six twenty one crime,
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Speaker 1: two on two seven four six three. I just love
Speaker 1: the fact that Adam is sitting there in this room
Speaker 1: watching like you had to do that in front of
Speaker 1: him and he had to sit there and watch it.
Speaker 1: You guys still together. He's passed out. Do you think
Speaker 1: we bored him to death? I just looked over to
Speaker 1: see his look of mortification. And in fact there was nothing.
Speaker 1: He's just he's sleeping. And I will say that he
Speaker 1: is committing a crime right now because I've told him
Speaker 1: a million times. But I'm like, no outside clothes on
Speaker 1: the bed and he's passed out on the pillows where
Speaker 1: I put my face with his dirty jeans. Um, we're
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