WEBVTT - Strangest Things 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:14.160 Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.680 Real Time Crime. I'm your host, Leo Lamar, and I 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:23.479 have with me my compadre. You've been working on a 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:29.120 new title, not working well enough. But it's Dmitri. You guys, Dmitri. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.080 How are you? I'm doing well? Thank you? How are you? 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.720 You know? Dmitri? I think we know how I'm doing. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.080 I think we do. And just to fill other people, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.920 and Leah is still out of the country, I did 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:49.400 buy my plane ticket back for next Tuesday. All right, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.000 Well that's I know, it's exciting. And um, if a 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.120 British boyfriend, not to brag, but to brag, oh my gosh, 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.920 you just use the boyfriend were I know? I know, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.320 I went to Europe and I bought the first house 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:10.240 I saw, so um, just so we're clear, then, the 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.760 crime that has been committed is that your single life 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:18.040 has been assassinated by yeah, yeah, by And we're referring 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:23.520 to Adam, right, and his name is Adam. Oh my god, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.600 poor guy. He's sitting by himself on the bed doing 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:34.000 work and he just seems content. That's what you need. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.960 That's a good thing in a relationship. He just looked 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.600 at me. Oh no, he just said help me. He 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.199 does not helped me. But bad news for you, boo. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.880 I'm the only one here. He's so trapped. Okay. Anyway, um, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.040 this is a future crime for sure, a future crime 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:59.240 of fashion. Sorry, Adam, you were great while you last it. Anyway, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:07.520 you guys, so many hilariously odd stories this week. Yeah, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.440 I mean it's and it's kind of a nice change 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.920 of pace from there's been some heavy stuff lately, so 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.080 it's nice to get. And not any crime is good, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.280 but some of this stuff is very strange. Some of 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.520 the stuff is very bizarre. And not that any of 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.000 these are ha ha funny. People are dying, but they 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.360 are strange, so let's put it that way. Number one, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.320 Number two, Yes, I'm in Paris for the keeping score 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.440 following along with my Instagram and for those of you 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.240 who are not, this has really been I'm exhausted. I'm 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.360 I'm ready to come home, but I'm not not ready 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.440 to come home. You've been going for like, what is 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:47.080 it like six months? Now five weeks? Same? But you 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.840 know what, I've never been to Europe, so I think 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.840 I'm just at this like a backlog for all the 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.880 trips I should have taken. Yeah, listen, um, and your 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.560 first out of Europe and you come home with a boyfriend. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.440 That's pretty good, not bad, right, I mean most people 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.440 study it when they go to college and they spend 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.920 over six months. I didn't even do that, so I 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.480 would say this is my college study abroad. I also, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:14.560 you know, godboyfriend and um who knows, probably COVID. It's 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.280 just like really hard to say what else has been 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.160 going on here? So which of these things are you 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:23.600 bringing home? Hopefully not COVID, just COVID. Okay, So, so 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.200 Adam lives there, Adam lives in the UK. No one 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:33.679 cares about besides us. Oh, I see, I've never seen 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.120 to get so deflated. I don't think that just means 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.920 you don't want to talk about it. Yet it is 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.400 not that I don't want to talk about it. He 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.600 lives in London and we're going to figure out the 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:49.320 distance situation. M All right, babe, do you care that 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.880 I'm telling everyone about our love life? He said no. So, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:55.800 I mean he has to get used to I remember, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.920 I want to stay with this guy. He was like, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.640 I don't want to be in your set. Don't put 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.200 me in your stand up, and I was like, well, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:05.800 I don't want to date you, and you do stand 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.280 up you have a podcast, he's willing to be in. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.600 It's all right, good, you gotta come along for the ride. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:12.880 You know. It's like, if you don't want to be 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.960 in my stand up set, means you don't want to 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.640 be part of my life, right because your life is 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.839 a stand up set. Because my life I just talked 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.400 about what's going on. My life is comedy, you know. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.880 I talked about what's going on. So if people don't 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.080 want to be part of that, then they don't want 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:31.000 to be part of this anyway. So you know what, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.000 let's just get back to crime. You know what really 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.279 matters today. We're gonna be talking about an Arizona man 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.239 charged after mowing down and killing a bicyclist with his truck. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.479 It was a hit and run. A woman calling out 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.800 an Indiana pastor for taking her virgin virginity at sixteen. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.920 A sheep found guilty and sentenced to three years in 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.120 jail for killing a woman in Africa, And then we 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.839 will be talking about our main crime for today, the 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.240 murders of Dennis and normal Wood Druffe. A feel like 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.080 we just got to clarify one thing, because we said 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.479 these stories were lighter and more fun and I was 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.600 really just thinking about the sheep one. Um, yeah, me too, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.000 to be honest, that's just sheep going to jail is 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.279 kind of a hilarious thought. But also people are dead, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.320 so it's not that funny. It's not funny. Well you 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:23.160 know us, and by us, I mean me. Okay, So alright, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.279 so the first story. You know, look, I know that 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.520 this is a podcast and so most of you are 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.640 not looking at anything, but I do need you to 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.360 google this guy because we're about to roast the ship 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:44.120 out of him. Sorry, sorry, but this man looks like 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:50.320 an overgrown potato. He looks like he swallowed a brick. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.280 He does. He does have some sort of melting um 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.440 look to him, you know, kind of a job of 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.240 the hut melting. And listen, I want this clear. Now, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.520 we're we're coming out. We're not shaming this guy because 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.839 he's heavy. This is not a fashiaming thing. This is 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.159 a shaming this guy because he's a douche bag who 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.320 killed someone on a bike and took off. If we're 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:17.279 not allowed to roast murderers, who are we allowed to roast. Yeah, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.880 and you know, it looks like he's got a thyroid issue. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:30.560 M Do you think he has tonsilitis amongst the stuff. Yes, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.760 it does look like when you get um an ice 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.560 cream cone and they overdo it on the scoops. Yeah, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:44.200 he looks now ed from ninety fiance won't feel so alone. Yes, good, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.000 he's got a twin brother. Well, let's so let's explain 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 what he did. This way we can kind of hate 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.920 him even more. All right, Okay, So our first case 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.720 for today is an Arizona man charged after mowing down 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.880 and killing a bicyclist with his truck. So the culprit 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.240 has been identified as thirty nine year old Fernando Ramos 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.760 and his victim identified as six year old George Cooper, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.760 who died on the scene of the hit and run. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.360 I don't know why people think that they get they're 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.440 going to get away with hit and runs, do you No, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.720 I don't. There's cameras everywhere nowadays, there's also I witnesses everywhere, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.800 and it's like you're in a you're in a truck 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.720 with a license plate with and this guy is This 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.040 guy doesn't blend into a crowd. No, he sure does not. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.920 The Sheriff's office received multiple calls for the collision involving 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.119 a car on a cyclist. When police arrived, he'd already 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.520 fled the scene, and he didn't even try to help 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.280 Cooper and witnesses said that they saw his Chevy truck 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.160 crash into the cyclist, drag him along the road, and 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:51.240 then run him over just before fleeing the scene. So 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.000 so let's back that up for a second. So if 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.720 you accidentally hit somebody and you stop, that is the 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.800 best case scenario. You get out and you help him. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.200 This guy kept going, therefore dragging this guy and ultimately 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.080 running him over and then taking off. So zero regard 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.120 for human life. This was a sixty year old guy 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:13.840 riding his bike. He could have saved and or helped 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.160 at any point before actually murdering him, but who knows. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.240 At one point he was already dead. And I understand, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.200 I understand panic when things go wrong, but I think 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.080 that's when you're really gotta take over and you've got 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.160 to think, Okay, let's make this the it's this. It's 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.800 the same thing with the people that running from anything. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.320 If you did it, I know you don't want to 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.520 own up to it because you're terrified. But make it 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.120 the best case scenario. When you people start lying to 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.760 the police, it's the same, it's the same thing. Stop 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:47.080 you're making it worse. Anytime someone runs, it's basically showing 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:51.120 an admission of guilt. You're freaked out, you don't want 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.640 to do you run. So apparently he was biking. Cooper 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.280 was biking the northeastern lane of the road and had 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.920 a small trailer hitch to him when he was struck. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.480 Even he a small trailer, it's like you can't miss him. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 It was visible. Yeah, that worried me at first when 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.320 I first read that, because small trailers are usually like 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:13.600 kids in the back, but apparently not. Like, yeah, no 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.640 one else was hurt. Fortunately. Why do you think people 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.320 think they can just get away with it. I don't know. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.280 I think I think the initial thing has got to 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.480 be their fear, and they're just they just want to 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.280 get out of there and hope that everything's fine. But again, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.560 like we said, not the right thing to do. Two, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.839 you have to have like something like this, And I'm 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.720 not this guy. I don't put him in the same 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.160 the same category as someone who goes out and and 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.360 commits a murder on purpose, because I do think this 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.720 was an accident that he panicked and ran from, but 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.800 he still now did murder someone. Right? Do you think 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.480 he knew he was dead when he fled or do 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.040 you think he just thought maybe he was injured and 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.160 someone come and help him. I mean, why not check? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.920 That's the best. Why not check? Why not check? But also, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.720 let's be honest. This guy has super distinctive features. Like 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.240 I said, he looks like the Michelin man. He's not Yeah, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.680 he's not blending into a crowd, right, So so how 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.720 does he think that someone who looks this distinctive will 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.600 just be able to not get away with it? That 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.760 he doesn't think he's gonna get recognized and caught. He's 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:25.080 not an average looking person. It's very specific, very specific. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.560 Like imagine if you had balls but they were under 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.840 your ears. Well, give me a moment on that one, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.360 because I haven't thought about that before. Um, he looks 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.560 like he was a snake that just swallowed a mouse. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.040 Like that's where we're at with this guy. It looks 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.360 like he's a flesh tire, a flesh colored tire around 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:52.040 his neck. Yeah, Um, you're right. He looks like one 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:57.319 big testicle, just live action, Mr potato Head. Yeah, and 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.600 this is this is not even someone that is gonna 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.600 be like if he's seen, if there's like a red 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.560 light camera right or any one of those things, you're 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.760 going to see him through the windshield. Didn't know exactly 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.640 who this is. This isn't the type of guy that 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.679 you run into every day. So clearly again not thinking 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.880 because he got he did get Thankfully he did get caught. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.640 I just he did. He did because he was so 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.439 specific looking that they were able to track him down. Yeah, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.120 and not to be lost in this in the in 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.120 the roasting that we're doing with him, or the anger 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.800 that we're throwing towards him, is that a sixty year 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.080 old guy was out riding his bike and and was killed. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.679 And we don't know at what point he died, but 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.480 I can guarantee you if he dragged him and then 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.840 ran over him, if he had stopped right away and 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.839 done something, then things could have at least been better. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.560 I wonder. Yeah, man, this is one of those things 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.120 that just makes you feel like it wasn't an accident 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.400 because it's so strange. Yeah, I mean, it could have 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.520 been there could have been like a road raiser, something right, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:07.680 something so odd, not that we're upstanding citizens or the 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.040 you know everybody I am. I was just throwing Actually 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.080 I was throwing myself in the category with you. I 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.600 figured you were already in that category of not being um. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.760 But shit, guys, do the right thing, like try try 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.000 and act like you're living in a society. If you 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.440 do something that's an accident, limit limit the repercussions for 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:33.040 yourself and for others. Dmitri. The heart and soul of 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:39.360 this podcast mostly just the soul and the heart. But 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.560 there's no brains, so we're no brains, no brains. But 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.079 but that's fine, we don't need that here. And you guys, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.000 this next one, I mean, this next hot topic is 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.280 really heartbreaking, not that they're all not heartbreaking, but this 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.640 one specifically affects me. So a woman calls out an 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.400 Indiana pastor for taking her virginity at the age of 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:04.120 sixty mean, and there is a full clip where someone 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.640 has filmed part of it. Someone has filmed part of 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.400 her going up and yelling at this pastor in front 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.320 of the church. So if you want to listen to that, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.199 go ahead and take a listen later. But it's I mean, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.120 it's did you watch any of that? Did watched the 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.680 whole thing? And it starts with this pastor speaking to 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:30.240 his congregation and saying, oh, I did something twenty years ago. Um, 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.240 you know I committed adultery. Um to say, plainly, I 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.840 didn't make a mistake, I didn't have any I didn't 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.440 have an affair. I just had a misjudgment and I sinned. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.040 And I'm here, I'm and I feel like I gotta 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.199 tell you. So I'm asking you for for your forgiveness. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.800 So in the beginning, as you think these parishioners with 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.719 this very accepting of him coming clean about something he 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.000 said it was twenty years ago. Then when he's done, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.120 this woman comes up. Wait wait But also before you 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.520 stay that, he got around of applause after that from 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.480 the congregation standing ovation. If I'm a standing ovation, okay, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.760 And it's like bos Lerman got a twenty minute standing 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.160 ovation at can at the end of Elvis, like that 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.600 was deserved different reasons. This this seems a little odd, okay, no, no, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.959 please to me. So So okay, I get parishioners see 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.960 their pastor come clean and say I too, ifs, and 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.080 maybe they're like, okay, so they give him a standing ovation. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.080 But he did this, and he had to have knowingly 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.240 done this, so she must have said, hey, I'm going 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.000 to tell people about this, because then he came clean 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.760 what he claims after twenty years. She gets up and 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.080 goes to the microphone with her now husband and says, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.200 it wasn't twenty years ago. It was twenty seven years ago, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.160 and I was sixteen, and all of a sudden, you 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.080 can feel through this video, you can feel the energy 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.600 in this in this church shift, and all of a sudden, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.280 it's dead silent. She goes on to describe some more stuff, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.440 and she, you know, and she said she wasn't the 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:54.160 only one. That he molested women fifteen sixteen seventeen, went 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.760 on for years, and that he took her virginity on 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.720 the floor of his office. Ye, and she says, do 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.800 you remember that. I know you remember that, And she 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.080 approached with her husband, who then also took the microphone, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.520 and he was saying, you know, I met her right 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.520 after this, and you know, we started dating right after this, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.440 and I remember all this going down and and this 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.800 is all true, and it's interesting because it seemed planned 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.840 to do it with her there, But there's something that 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.800 makes me feel like either she agreed to just yes 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.520 and it and then decided to kind of just hijack 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.680 and tell the full story. And she was saying, you know, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.720 I can call them, I can call these other women 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.240 right now, and I can have them on the phone 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.080 stating exactly what you did to them, or or do 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.280 you think that. I mean, it's just weird because you know, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.920 obviously he's stepping down from the congregation that he was 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.920 saying that he sinned and that he didn't make a misjudgment, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.160 that it was just sinning. No, that's a miss judgments. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.680 It's everything he said it wasn't along with what he 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.720 said it was is all of that. Yeah, it's a mistakes, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.680 he said. I didn't make a mistake. You made many mistakes. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.000 He says, I committed adultery. And I gotta tell you, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.040 cheating on your wife was not the worst thing that 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.000 you did in that scenario, So don't lead with that. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.520 This guy is a full and piece of ship. Yeah. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:18.960 And then so I don't know if there was an 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.080 agreement where he's like, I'm gonna come clean, but then 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.160 he gets up there and he lies about the facts, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.920 and it's like, so, so now you're just making it 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.440 better on yourself. I wonder, you know what, I wonder 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.520 if she said she was going to come forward and 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.040 he was like, no, no, I have an idea. How 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.840 about I just tell everyone in the congregation what I've done, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.080 and let's let's call it even instead of her, you know, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.200 going because the me too movement is I mean, it 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.800 could have been that. And then she just decided to 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.600 grandstand it. And she said, so, I guess it went 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.320 on for a for a while. And she said, you know, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.800 as she lived for twenty seven years in this prison, 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.480 and she said, wasn't till she got married with this 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.240 husband and she found the strength to to not feel 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.560 shame for this. And she says she was sixteen. She 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.840 he groomed her, and then he carried on this thing 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.600 as if they were it was consensual, but it wasn't. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.800 And now she's like, so now she says, she's finally 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.400 feeling free for having completed twenty seven years she lived 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:19.600 with this because she's strong. No, it went on and on, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.520 and it wasn't just for her, it was other women 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.320 as well. And I'm sure they'll come forward and share 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.520 all of their stories. And I think, however, this was 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.520 manufactured to go down, you know, I I think she's 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.919 really brave. The fact that she just came forward in 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.639 front of all these people is talking about getting molested, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.680 and I mean rape, right, I mean this is rape. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.800 It's super brave, and it's it's you know, hopefully it's 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.560 empowering to the other women that that are feeling that 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.120 shame as she was feeling to to start to heal, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.600 is to start to feel better. And I think she 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.000 did it for them as much as she did it 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.639 for herself. And her husband seems like a sweet, loving, 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:04.080 really compassionate man who also, unfortunately, it does feel a 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.640 lot of times like women need a man to back 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.600 them up for people to take their claim seriously, right, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.840 And so in that same video, you'll see when I said, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.680 the room started to shift, the people started. The persons 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.600 who once stood and applauded him started calling back out 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.119 is this true? How old was she? So they started 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.840 peppering him with questions and that you could feel they 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.679 were I'm actually surprised he got out of there alive, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.400 because you could feel them the anger starting to brew 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.840 up there. Right, it got really hot, really quick, as 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.800 it should have. And you know, I think he tried 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:42.359 to go out gracefully, but now it's disgracefully because however 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.600 grateful you can make. Yeah, he tried to make it 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.160 all poetic. I didn't make a mistake, I didn't have 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.600 an affair. I've sinned, and now I'm asking for your forgiveness, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.400 thank you. And he gets a standing ovation. He must 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.239 have been right. He must have been thinking, oh, I'm 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.399 getting out of this. Yeah, literally right up. Yeah, And 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.160 I'm so glad she got up and did what she did, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.200 the strength that it took for her to do that, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.879 and then for everybody to all of a sudden you know, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.600 it's not the same thing at all, but just because 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.680 of the likeness of it, when you go back to 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.160 the Will Smith thing at the Oscars, remember everybody applauded 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:13.920 him after the thing. It was like he got a 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.359 standing ovation. And it's like, I wanted people to turn 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.320 right then and there. And you know what, when when 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.919 I saw the standing ovation at the beginning of this 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.840 was like, I really hope there's more to this video. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.000 And when they started to turn and they then you 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.120 could see them as she and her husband were walking out. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.720 They were reaching out to her, and they were and 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.800 there was you know, lending her support and saying that 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.600 they were there and and asking for forgiveness for something 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:39.760 that they hadn't done. I think the difference between Hollywood 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.919 and church is that church believes in hell and there's 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:52.800 no God, there's nothing, just straight up else. So I 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.840 used it burgatory, I said, hell I said, but I said, no, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.680 I think you know, it's, um, Hellywood, pretty pretty clear 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.320 why these people start I I hope. I mean, I'm 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.439 actually happy that they turned and started asking questions. I 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.600 mean him, and I'm glad. Yeah, because he, you know, 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.280 like we said, he thought, Okay, i'm gonna do this. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.680 I'm gonna leave out some info. I'm gonna get it done. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.520 I'll look like a hero, I'm gonna get out of here. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.119 And he didn't, which is exactly the beginning of what 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:25.120 he deserves, lying by omission. Yeah. Um, but what I'm 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.680 tired of. I'm tired of is is people you know, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.920 using their religion as like a get out of jail 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.800 free card. Okay, we see it a lot nowadays. We 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.359 see it with guns, we see it with all this 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.800 different stuff, and it's like, well, you know God told 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.560 me to do this, or you can't do this because 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.080 Jesus says it in the Bible. You're not speaking for him, okay, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.359 And you shouldn't be making laws for other people. So 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.840 that goes. There's a lot of stuff. Now I'm talking 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.520 about guns, I'm talking about abortion. I'm talking about people 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.600 pointing fingers that like family values and and divorced families 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.640 and religion, and that's their excuse for everything. And this 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.320 guy right here, he tried to do the same thing. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.240 That was his excuse. I've sinned and now I'm coming clean. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.080 Thank you for forgiving me. It's like, hold up, we're 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.400 not playing that game anymore. And I am a religious person. 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.159 I did grow up going to a church, but I 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.840 don't I don't buy the free pass thing. This really 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.920 reminds me of the Kevin Spacey ordeal, who, by the way, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.240 is now going to be representing himself in court because 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.119 he wants more stage time. Yea perfect, but do you 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:29.399 remember when Kevin Spacey got me too? It's like, whoever 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.520 Kevin space seing this pastor is working with for PR 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.800 that person is getting paid millions of dollars. I mean, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:41.800 they have a very good pr person. Kevin Spacey was like, oh, yeah, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.520 you know what I did read a young man, But 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:49.320 it's because I was afraid to tell people I'm gay. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.960 I'm gay now see, and and can't can't you just 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:54.919 applaud me for the fact that I'm coming out and 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.639 I'm a proud gay man. We're like, huh right, hold up, 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.720 and you know what that's excuse it's the exact same 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.639 thing as that guy we talked about before that the 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.520