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Speaker 1: Previously on Queen of the con Con Artist Daniel Miller

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Speaker 1: has a disturbing and painful past to overcome. When Danielle

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Speaker 1: was in the eighth grade, she sent a video of

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Speaker 1: her doing something with a swipper and it was kind

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Speaker 1: of like the first viral example of revenge porn, and

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Speaker 1: it was horrible. Her name has been dragged through the

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Speaker 1: mud since she's thirteen years old, But as Daniel Miller

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Speaker 1: grows into a young woman, she shocks her friends and

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Speaker 1: family by fully embracing a life of crime. At twenty

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Speaker 1: seven years old, she's caught red handed and arrested at

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Speaker 1: the Body Factory Skincare Spa in New York City using

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Speaker 1: stolen credit cards to pay for expensive skincare treatments like

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Speaker 1: botox and cool sculpting. Then suddenly the arresting officer makes

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Speaker 1: a prophetic discovery and he opened the berth and he

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Speaker 1: found out another credit cards inside. What so she was

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Speaker 1: doing this hello? Daniel's wealthy dad hires a high powered

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Speaker 1: attorney to get her out of jail, but then she

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Speaker 1: skips town and doesn't show up for an important quarter appearance,

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Speaker 1: so a bench warrant is issued for her arrest and

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm Jonathan Walton and this is Queen of

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Speaker 1: the con The Rich Girl, Episode three, The Best Ship.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad people like that, and we

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Speaker 1: need to be careful. When Body Factory Skincare SPA owner

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Speaker 1: Eugene Kaginski calls the cops on Daniel Miller in November

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Speaker 1: of he's determined to stop her from scamming his business.

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Speaker 1: My goal was to catch her and to put her

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Speaker 1: in her place. But Daniel Miller manages to weasel her

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Speaker 1: way out from the grip of justice by not showing

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Speaker 1: up to court, where five felony counts including grand larceny,

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Speaker 1: await her. And that's the risk that lawyers take. Right

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Speaker 1: the clients are who they are, and they aren't going

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Speaker 1: to change their course of behavior just because the lawyer

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Speaker 1: says they're gonna show up. They're gonna do what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. She's in law school at this point, right,

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Speaker 1: so she knows that not showing up to a court

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Speaker 1: appearance for criminal case, the judge is going to issue

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Speaker 1: and arrest warrant. Do you think maybe she thought that's

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Speaker 1: only New York how to arrest warrants work. Arrest warrants

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Speaker 1: are nationwide. But former out a prosecutor, Scott Tenley, now

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Speaker 1: an attorney at Michael Man and Robinson, says, just because

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Speaker 1: there's a warrant out doesn't necessarily mean an arrest is imminent.

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Speaker 1: In some instances, if you're outside of the jurisdiction, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to arrest somebody on the warrant and then

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Speaker 1: cart them back to New York, for instance, from California.

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Speaker 1: So it can depend on the nature of the warrant.

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Speaker 1: So maybe she wasn't wrong in thinking if she just

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Speaker 1: on the arrest warrant. It's possible. I mean, listen, if

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Speaker 1: you had a traffic ticket and didn't show up for court,

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Speaker 1: you might have a bench warrant out. But if you're

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Speaker 1: traveling to Hawai, they're not going to arrest you, throw

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Speaker 1: something for a traffic ticket. So it could depend. But

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Speaker 1: you would hope somebody who is studying to be a

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Speaker 1: standard authorities do eventually manage to locate daniel Miller, albeit unintentionally,

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Speaker 1: at the Mexican border trying to enter the United States

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Speaker 1: through San Diego. Hits the last place you think a

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Speaker 1: criminal would be arrested on a warrant issued from a

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Speaker 1: least expect it. I had a defendant who conned it

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Speaker 1: Miller is refusing to talk to me, but she has

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Speaker 1: completely innocent, saying, quote, it was at the Mexican border.

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Speaker 1: I was coming into the States on my birthday. I

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Speaker 1: extradition laws, they have twenty days to come and pick

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Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they're going to come and

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Speaker 1: on the nineteenth day, I'm thinking I'm gonna be leaving there,

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Speaker 1: my little heels and my purse and wouldn't give me clothes.

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Speaker 1: I was brought to Rikers Island on a warrant for

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Speaker 1: supposedly going to a salon and using someone else's credit

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that. Someone must have used my profile

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Speaker 1: at this place and used someone else's credit card, but

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Speaker 1: I literally didn't do that. It was for something like

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Speaker 1: Riker's Island with no bail because they said I was

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Speaker 1: a flight risk. But like it was really strange because

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Speaker 1: it's because you're a straight guy and win a banger. Well,

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Speaker 1: But you know, like there is something I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like you could tell. She is very charismatic. I think

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Speaker 1: successful as a con artist. I'll readily admit I believed

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Speaker 1: she has a way of making it all sound plausible,

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Speaker 1: make it all sound reasonable, but like you know, oh,

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Speaker 1: And she clearly has people still helping her. She has people,

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Speaker 1: I mean the way she tells it in that podcast.

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Speaker 1: that's not how things go. There is body cam footage

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Speaker 1: I literally didn't do that. She's denying the person they

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Speaker 1: I mean, possibly former federal prosecutor Scott Tinley, But when

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Speaker 1: difficult to believe that it was a mistake in that instance.

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Speaker 1: Like how diplomatic you are, I'm gonna say, it's impossible.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that wasn't. So what is up? The

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Speaker 1: That's impossible. And let's not forget the owner of the

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Speaker 1: Body Factory Skincare Spa, Eugene Kaganski, is an eyewitness to

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller in his spa paying for treatments using stolen

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Speaker 1: credit cards. Suddenly Daniel Miller. She came out, she was happy,

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Speaker 1: she just keeps repeating her version of events that the

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Speaker 1: SPA arrest was a case of mistaken identity, people might

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Speaker 1: believe her. That was definitely a thing that I heard

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Speaker 1: that it was all a mixed up in a misunderstanding.

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Speaker 1: Journalist Jessica Pressler, there's too many times that these misunderstandings

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Speaker 1: have happened trains. It's like you can make a mistake

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Speaker 1: November now, Daniel Miller is sitting in jay at Rikers Island,

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Speaker 1: awaiting trial for scamming the Body Factory Skincare SPA. At

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Speaker 1: this point, her powerful dad reportedly wants nothing to do

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Speaker 1: I'd been like, oh we're this is because we're dating

428
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: and we're together. And I was like, oh fuck, which

429
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: is another reason to pull chucks, because I'm like deeed

430
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: like no, like you know, and like I'm in my

431
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: in my professional career, like I don't date people or

432
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: like sleep with people that I work with. It's just

433
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I've seen it over. You can't be the skiezy videographer photographer, right,

434
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. Some people it works for. But I mean,

435
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: I just don't want that legacy, you know. Yeah, No,

436
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. You're in business with her. Los Angeles,

437
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: things appeared to be going, well, what's the first sign

438
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: that something is up? Oh? I feel like it was

439
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: the late night, like the late night harassment or the

440
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: the always trying to if I left or I wasn't

441
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: paying enough attention, it was getting getting attacked or harassed,

442
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: or or any time that I wasn't available because I

443
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: was often not working doing my own ship or with

444
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: my own pupil, it was like getting blasted with texts

445
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: and paragraphs and emails and this and that. So I

446
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh, shoot, you know, you start to see

447
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: like that, like crazy meter started to tick up, you know.

448
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: And then in business she used the same time when

449
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: we started, you know, doing our mutual like new day

450
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: production and have a advisory or teaming up articles and stuff.

451
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: The same guy that did her first article, and and

452
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: she sent to me said hey, I got featured in this.

453
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: We get on an interview with him. Well, I had

454
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: now realized that she had paid for that, So I'm like, wait,

455
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: you're doing is She's using the same tactics and the

456
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: same connections and the same people to now build up

457
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: are And she's liked, yeah, it's gonna get posted on

458
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: a thousand different you know channel is over here, this

459
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and that, blah blah, And I'm like, this is the same, dude,

460
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: did you pay for I'm like, oh, oh, all right,

461
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: paid for that article. So I was like, oh, this

462
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: is all paid pr which now my brains adjusting, seeing

463
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: them crazy infatuations starting to turn, seeing that the attention

464
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: needs starting to turn, seeing like all these things that

465
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: she had built up as like I'm successful lot of

466
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: doing this now seeing the underground of how it's which

467
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: was really educational. You're in this promotions business together, where

468
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: she's handling the legal aspect of it and making all

469
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: the high end connections. She tells you there's a trust fund.

470
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: She's trying to make you think what like she comes

471
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: from a lot of money and a lot of power, yes,

472
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: money in the connections and putting me in front of

473
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: different filmmakers. And this is the annoying part. She understood

474
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: my problem with social media. And I saw this a

475
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: lot with all the Logan Paul followers. If you want

476
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: against Logan Paul, you had this swarm of eleven year

477
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: olds that would just do do do do do just

478
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: everything and anything and just like totally violate you. I

479
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: had been already kind of seeing a lot of that happening,

480
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: especially and being within that realm of YouTubers. I wanted

481
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: to start something against cyber bulling a nonprofit right. She's

482
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: all into it because she went through the cyber thing

483
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: with swifer Gate. Yeah this, yes, swipper Gate. It's like,

484
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: oh cool, you understand it. I understand it. If we're

485
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: going to partner up, let's like go at this like

486
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: and let's do that. Let's start a nonprofit so we

487
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: can do everything that you would do in a business.

488
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: But then now it's like, what's all your information? I

489
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: need social I need to know all your information. So

490
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: now she's got my social my addresses, my phone number,

491
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: she can accumulate some sort of what I would. You know,

492
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: we only use, however, many passwords at a time. I

493
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: gave her everything for the three months that we were

494
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: producing directing. You know, she was once a get handling

495
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: the contracts, doing the legal side, and all her wisdom,

496
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: you know, doing the l a swap thing, using her

497
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: trust fund to get us a Swagger office in West Hollywood.

498
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: She's got like this really sick apartment right across from

499
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: another spot, you know, with a card on it, so

500
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: that we go up have our meetings in the top

501
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: and anyone can drink whatever. These are all American Express

502
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: that like she had used in other people's funds and

503
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: everything was bankrolled by other people like them not even knowing, right,

504
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: so she stole credit cards to pay for all that

505
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: office and all those meetings and all that high end

506
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Hollywood schmooze. Yes, well also mine, just like it makes

507
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: me so angry. Basically, anywhere she's worked, she's told people's information.

508
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: And I mean I knew there was things going on

509
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: because I started getting calls. There's so many people that

510
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: she's come in contact with that if she like sees

511
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: any sort of weakness, she'll just do it for fun,

512
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: like oh, hey, can I see your phone? Can I

513
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: can I call this person real quick? And she's like,

514
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: once it's unlocked, she has all your stuff And like

515
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I had a couple of friends have been like hey, um,

516
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: like you should like you told me you were like

517
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: you're engaged as some girls. I'm like, why am I

518
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: getting yelled at right now? It's like three in the morning,

519
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? And she's like, you should

520
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: have told me you had the next wife like this?

521
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, excuse me, but who are you talking about.

522
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: She's like I spoke to Danny and I'm like, excuse me,

523
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: what can you say? That in a sentence, She's like,

524
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: it's not true. I'm like, do you let me send

525
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: you a few articles and then I'm gonna let you

526
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: call me back? And then they call me back like,

527
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I had no idea. I'm like, did

528
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: she ever touch anything in your in your purse or

529
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: your house or your phone. She's like, I'm gonna have

530
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: to call you back. I'm like, what do you like? Yeah,

531
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. Keep in mind, this is all going on

532
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: during the time daniel Miller is on the run from

533
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: that New York criminal case, the one charging her with

534
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: five felonies for scamming the body factory Skincare SPA, the

535
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: one where she skips town before her next court appearance,

536
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: so the judge issues a bench warrant for her arrest.

537
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: If you recall from earlier where Danielle acts surprised when

538
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: she gets arrested at the Mexican border, saying publicly quote

539
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: and they said there was a warrant for me. I

540
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: mean I was like, no, there's not, Like, what are

541
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: you talking about? Well, she secretly knows exactly what they're

542
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: talking about, as does Mackenzie. There had been a time

543
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: that we were shooting I took her on a project

544
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: to go shoot with one of my favorite influences I

545
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: work with. We're all in Joshua Tree in the middle

546
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: of the desert and the sheriff comes in and I

547
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: have all these lights set up and like we had

548
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: pulled off the road and we were doing this like

549
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: impromptu film scene with like this ballerina and like this

550
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: desert like at night, like really cool stuff. The sheriff

551
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: pulls up and he's like, no off roading, and then

552
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: it started like you guys need to get out of here,

553
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: like don't be stupid, and then runs our on my

554
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: idea and her idea and then like miss we need

555
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: to talk to you. That was the first incident where

556
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: it was like what was up with that? Because basically,

557
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: if he's like listen, it's gonna be three hours just

558
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: to drive you to the nearest kinditentiary to get this

559
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: sort of out. He's like, whatever you have going on,

560
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: you need to take care of because you have warrants out.

561
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: What were you thinking. You're in Joshua Tree for this,

562
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: for this shoot, for this job and police pull you

563
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: over and tell you she has bench warrants. You guys

564
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: want to get this taken care of. What are you thinking?

565
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm like super sketched out. Also, like one of the

566
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: influencer that I was working with, the ballet or ballerina,

567
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: like her mom is always with their I have really

568
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: good report with them, been working with them for years.

569
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: Like they're both over your side by and like the

570
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: whole thing because she gets pulled and put in the

571
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: back and like they're running everything and have a conversation

572
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: where they're completely sidebar and it comes over. He's like

573
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: you need to get it is taken care of. He's

574
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: like I could have put you in jail tonight. He's

575
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: like you're lucky. It's like three hours away kind of stuff,

576
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm over here looking at her like

577
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: what like what what was that? Like? You know, and

578
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: she's like nothing, it's just something I have to deal with.

579
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: She's like it wasn't me. But then I got yeah,

580
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: that's when that yeah, that's when the first is like mistake,

581
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: the mistaken identity, identity like wasn't me. No, Yeah, She's like,

582
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: nothing is something I got tied up in. It had

583
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. You know. That kind of

584
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: that kind of b is incredibly Daniel Miller still has

585
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: a video from that ballerina social media influencer shoot in

586
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree that day on her Instagram page. Nice I'm

587
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: posting a screen recording of it on our Instagram page

588
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: at Queen of the Con if you're curious. And shortly

589
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: after that run in with authorities in Joshua Tree, where

590
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: she's explicitly warned that there's a bench worn out for

591
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: her arrest, she drives to Mexico and gets arrested on

592
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: that same bench warrant. She was told about trying to

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00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: come back into the United States through San Diego and

594
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: they said there was a warrant for me. I mean,

595
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no, there's not, Like, what are you

596
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: talking about? I guess she wasn't planning on that New

597
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: York bench warrant showing up on US Border Patrol computers

598
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: in San Diego, even though she knew it had already

599
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: shown up. When that sheriff and Joshua Tree, a barren

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00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: desert one hundred and sixty miles east of Los Angeles,

601
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: ran her, I d from his squad car. Basically everything

602
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: after that just started compiling. At this point, Mackenzie Day

603
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: has no idea con artist Daniel Miller is just getting started.

604
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: As I got called by a Tesla dealership in Detroit.

605
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Did she try to buy a Tesla in your name? Yes.

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00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Next time on Queen of the Con, I would get

607
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: text from her dad's assistant, Hey have you seen Danielle?

608
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: Like we haven't, you know, the last time we talked

609
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to her, she disappeared for a couple of days, and

610
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: then her dad would email me and the like. Once again,

611
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: none of those things existed. Oh so wait a minute,

612
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: that's not her dad, that's not her dad's assistant. She

613
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: created accounts to impersonate them to you. Yes, but Mackenzie

614
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Day figures out a clever way to out Khan the

615
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: con artists. I mean, that's when the New York prosecutors

616
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: ended up calling me because they heard their accorded conversations

617
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: and I had it was so funny. The first time

618
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: I just really got her. She was just stunned, like

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Speaker 1: I just I felt like I broke her brain. Finally.

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Speaker 1: Portions of public statements made to the media by Danielle

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Speaker 1: Miller were dramatized verbatim in this episode, as were questions

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Speaker 1: and comments from those interviewing her. If you're enjoying Queen

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Speaker 1: a production of A y R Media and I Heart Media,

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