Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ran Warmley, joining this Friday morning by Derek Brown and
Speaker 1: Pat fitz Morris Fellas we are talking week elevin, he questions,
Speaker 1: I do have to reveal it everybody we were just
Speaker 1: talking about before the show started recording. Uh, Derek Brown,
Speaker 1: Deebro does not think more than a Feeling is Boston's
Speaker 1: best song.
Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not Four Play Long Time Baby, what
Speaker 2: I won instrumentals are ridiculous and we didn't know also
Speaker 2: that Fitzi's apparently got, you know, celebrity ties to all
Speaker 2: these different places and people.
Speaker 1: Fits as celebrities to everyone.
Speaker 3: I just used to work with someone related to one
Speaker 3: of the Boston I did long ago.
Speaker 1: I was on drumline in high school and senior year.
Speaker 1: We did kind of like a rock band themed show
Speaker 1: for our our kind of marching performance that year, and
Speaker 1: we started off with four Play from Boston, and it was, uh,
Speaker 1: we did that. We did Black Magic Woman, we did
Speaker 1: round About, we did one other side. It's been a
Speaker 1: while obviously, so I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Dude, rock band takes. Yeah, we did play that makes favorite.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, man, like I remember so many different
Speaker 2: nights and so many different beverages in and playing drums
Speaker 2: and being like, oh yeah, I could do this on stage.
Speaker 1: We've talked before like I'm not good at like i
Speaker 1: don't know music trivia very well, and I'm not the
Speaker 1: type of person and be like, oh, that person's saying
Speaker 1: that person and these are the names of the members
Speaker 1: in those bands. But I do really enjoy older music,
Speaker 1: like I really like my mom got me really into
Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac growing up, Like Jim Croche is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite artists. I love like Boston and kind of
Speaker 1: some of those older school you know, the types of
Speaker 1: the bands that you would see on a game, like
Speaker 1: rock band, which was great.
Speaker 2: Your closet, geriatric, It's okay.
Speaker 3: This is a this is a great classic rock podcast.
Speaker 3: We should occasionally talk about football, just for a change.
Speaker 1: Actually, we're like a minute into the show. It's not
Speaker 1: going to spend ten minutes on that, but we will
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Speaker 1: with Colin Coward and his over under picks for the
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Speaker 1: and as always, I am joined by Colin Coward to
Speaker 1: talk through some of our favorite player picks for this
Speaker 1: week's slate. We will jump right in, but first I
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Speaker 1: heading to fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. As usual, Colin, I want to start with
Speaker 1: Jared Goff going up against the Jaguars. He's QB seventeen
Speaker 1: and DraftKings scoring in fantasy this season just over sixteen
Speaker 1: fantasy points per game, obviously coming off this Sunday night
Speaker 1: game where he throws five interceptions in a win against
Speaker 1: the Texans. Very different defense he's going up against here
Speaker 1: in Week eleven, the Jacksonville pass defense allowing eight yards
Speaker 1: per attempt. That's third worse in the NFL. What do
Speaker 1: you expect out of golf this week?
Speaker 4: Well, he'll play better. Jacksonville's offense with Mac Jones is
Speaker 4: a knemiic and that means more possessions, better field position.
Speaker 4: I do think they'll run the ball more than they'll
Speaker 4: throw it, but I rarely like fourteen point favorites in
Speaker 4: the NFL. I'm breaking my own rule. I think the
Speaker 4: Lions roll. I think the way they won, which is
Speaker 4: they played poorly for big chunks of the game. And
Speaker 4: one it's a coach's dream that you can really bark,
Speaker 4: you can really get after players when they play poorly
Speaker 4: and win. I think the Lions roll in golf has
Speaker 4: a very clean afternoon.
Speaker 1: The other quarterback we have here is Bo Nicks going
Speaker 1: up against the Falcons obviously coming off a couple of
Speaker 1: really difficult matchups in just in terms of the opponent
Speaker 1: with the Ravens and the Chiefs the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Not that the Falcons are bad, but not quite on
Speaker 1: the same level you know seen as contenders like Baltimore
Speaker 1: and Kansas City are bow Nicks QB thirteen and scoring
Speaker 1: the season for a fantasy on DraftKings over seventeen points
Speaker 1: per game. A lot of that has come from the rushing,
Speaker 1: and he's been QB seven over twenty points per game
Speaker 1: since Week five, so he has gotten better as the
Speaker 1: season has gone along. What are your expectations against the Falcons.
Speaker 4: I worry about a little bit of a letdown after
Speaker 4: losing a gut punching loss to the Chiefs after they
Speaker 4: outplayed them and bo Nicks outplayed Mahomes. But I think
Speaker 4: Peyton's one of the sharpest guys in the league. Atlanta
Speaker 4: presents almost no pass rush, so I and I've said this,
Speaker 4: I like Courtland Sutton, I like their tight ends. I
Speaker 4: like bon Nicks. Their left tackle Bulls is excellent. I've
Speaker 4: been betting on Bonnicks all season. Atlanta presents very little.
Speaker 4: It's a dome team going to cold Weather. I think
Speaker 4: bo Nix does well.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Courtland Sutton. I've been really
Speaker 1: kind of struggling to identify what I like and dislike
Speaker 1: about the skill position group in Denver. Like obviously, we've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of kind of you know, in and
Speaker 1: out from the from the backfield Orodric Estimee had his
Speaker 1: first big usage game this week, only fifty three rushing yards.
Speaker 1: Jonte Williams in and out. Cortland Sutton's a player I've
Speaker 1: always liked, but feels maybe miscast as a wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this supporting cast around bo Nix
Speaker 1: is good enough?
Speaker 4: I think they have to. They have a left tackle,
Speaker 4: a back. I think Courtland Sutton's a low end one,
Speaker 4: but he's a big target. Their tight ends are more
Speaker 4: than serviceable. I think they're receiving. Mims is young, Franklin's young.
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll go wide receiver in the draft.
Speaker 4: I think they'll go maybe another running back, shore up
Speaker 4: the offensive line, maybe the very back end safety. I
Speaker 4: think it's good enough, and I also think we have
Speaker 4: to consider Sean Payton's coaching. He's a great play designer,
Speaker 4: excellent play caller, and bow Knicks had sixty one college
Speaker 4: start so he's a heady kid who's seen everything. He
Speaker 4: had multiple coordinators in college, so he clearly grasps offense quickly.
Speaker 4: I thought he played really well. I even thought he
Speaker 4: played pretty well and the blowout lost to Baltimore, so
Speaker 4: I think even in his games that he's struggling, he's
Speaker 4: been productive and confident.
Speaker 1: I like bo. Let's look at some running backs here.
Speaker 1: Kirien Williams at New England RB six on DraftKings this
Speaker 1: season over fifteen fantasy points per game, going up against
Speaker 1: his Patriots rush defense allowing four point eight yards per carrie.
Speaker 1: What do you expect out of Kyron this week?
Speaker 4: Well, they're not playing Blake korm A lot, so he
Speaker 4: gets a majority of the carries and he was invisible
Speaker 4: in the first half against Miami. Some of that they
Speaker 4: got down they were chasing points. I think Kyron's excellent.
Speaker 4: I think they'll go run heavy because they don't know
Speaker 4: what to expect as a dome team in New England's
Speaker 4: harsh weather. I think the game plan this week for
Speaker 4: Sean McVay is physical, Kyron Williams the lead dog. I
Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a twenty plus carry performance. It's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite plays of the week.
Speaker 1: How about Christian McCaffrey against Seattle. Obviously, he was the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in a lot of fantasy drafts
Speaker 1: this year in most fantasy drafts, really outside of the
Speaker 1: injury concern, and then that concern turned out to be
Speaker 1: a whole lot more legitimate than people might have thought.
Speaker 1: In early August, his first start back of the season
Speaker 1: in Week ten, he was RB seventeen on DraftKings, thirteen
Speaker 1: rushes just thirty nine yards, but doing what he does
Speaker 1: in the passing game six catches for sixty eight yards.
Speaker 1: Going up against the Seattle defense, what do you think
Speaker 1: we'll see from Christian McCaffrey this week.
Speaker 4: I can't get my arms around the Niners. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think their offensive line maybe is as good
Speaker 4: as the credit it gets. I think half this league
Speaker 4: runs a variation of this offense, so the element of surprise,
Speaker 4: the debo jet sweeps aren't as effective. I think he'll
Speaker 4: have a bounce back. The Seahawks don't know what they
Speaker 4: are on either side of the ball. They are a
Speaker 4: talented team that doesn't have really any identity. So I
Speaker 4: think Christian has a better week. I mean, it's like
Speaker 4: when players come off long layoffs or like say two
Speaker 4: of the concussion, it's usually the second game that somebody
Speaker 4: off a long break or a long injury really pops.
Speaker 4: So I think he'll be reasonably productive. But I don't
Speaker 4: love what I see with the Niners O line.
Speaker 1: A couple of wide receivers here before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, George Pickens going up against this maligned Ravens defense.
Speaker 1: He's wide receiver thirty four on DraftKings. This season has
Speaker 1: played differently since Russell Wilson came into the starting lineup
Speaker 1: as quarterback. Obviously again going up against his pass defense
Speaker 1: that is beaten up. Kyle Hamilton limited in practice. It
Speaker 1: did not look you know, during the game when he
Speaker 1: went down with that injury. I didn't expect to see
Speaker 1: him back this week, So we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and thirty seven receiving yards for Pickens in
Speaker 1: four career games against the Ravens. It's his third most
Speaker 1: against any opponent. Just one touchdown in that stretch. What
Speaker 1: do you think we'll see from Pickens.
Speaker 4: Well Kyle Hamilton. His absence takes a bad secondary and
Speaker 4: makes it awful. And I also think they're physical matchups.
Speaker 4: Listen the underdog in this game. The Steelers underdogs do
Speaker 4: well in this game. And I also think the one
Speaker 4: thing where Russell Wilson feels a lot like Seahawk Russell Wilson,
Speaker 4: the deep ball is back. He is aggressive. He's never
Speaker 4: been great at throwing the ball over the middle of
Speaker 4: the field. He's a very small quarterback. He loves the
Speaker 4: deep ball. And as his movement has regressed a little bit,
Speaker 4: he can still move. He's not Aaron Rodgers, but his
Speaker 4: movements regressed. He's now really leaning into the deep balls.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: He always did that, but in Seattle he was very mobile.
Speaker 4: I like Pickens, I like the rest, I like the
Speaker 4: Steeler team the rest of the way. I think the
Speaker 4: deep ball is his best friend.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 4: Pickens is a remarkable athlete, one of the great athletes
Speaker 4: in the league. You just saw him last week run
Speaker 4: over two corners a safety. I mean, he's got a
Speaker 4: slight build, but he's one of those long, lean, strong
Speaker 4: play so you get yards after the catch with him.
Speaker 4: As well, so I like Pickum's here.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that Russell Wilson has really historically never been
Speaker 1: very good throwing over the middle of the field. It
Speaker 1: feels to me in watching this Ravens defense, that's where
Speaker 1: I see a lot of the damage being done, whether
Speaker 1: it's a receiver or a tight end or even a
Speaker 1: running back. In the passing game, it feels like the
Speaker 1: middle of the field is typically very wide open for Baltimore,
Speaker 1: and the guys who have dominated on the outside have
Speaker 1: been those like true alpha number one receivers. You know,
Speaker 1: the Jamar chases the CD lamps of the world DeVonta
Speaker 1: Adams when he was still with the Raiders. So I
Speaker 1: wonder how that's going to play out in this game.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really surprised that totals forty eight and a
Speaker 1: half on DraftKings. I feel like Lamar he's been the
Speaker 1: best player in football this year, but he's struggled against
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh historically. I don't know if you know the Steelers
Speaker 1: offense is designed to take advantage of the biggest Ravens
Speaker 1: weakness in the middle of the field. What do you
Speaker 1: think about that total being as side as it is.
Speaker 4: Well, I think Pittsburgh finally has a redeemable offense. I
Speaker 4: think Arthur Smith, it was really good with Tam doing this.
Speaker 4: Great offensive coordinators can identify what you do, but more
Speaker 4: importantly what you don't do well. I mean, remember Ryan
Speaker 4: Tannehill was a guy that, like we were surprised he
Speaker 4: had much of a market. He became a pro bowler
Speaker 4: in the AFC with Arthur Smith. Now, Arthur didn't make
Speaker 4: it as a head coach, but a lot of that
Speaker 4: is Desmond Ritter. He may not be an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think when you give Arthur Smith a legitimate franchise quarterback,
Speaker 4: he does magical things. And it's not a coincidence. This
Speaker 4: offense is getting better every week, So I think I
Speaker 4: think Pittsburgh is seen now as not your typical Tomlin
Speaker 4: Steeler team. I think the offensive line has overcome injuries,
Speaker 4: the run game again kind of forceful Russell. Russell still moves,
Speaker 4: so I in most instances the last five years, I
Speaker 4: take it the under. But I think this is a
Speaker 4: real offense now, and I think I think the odds
Speaker 4: makers are illustrating that.
Speaker 1: Last player here, Colin DeAndre Hopkins at Buffalo not very
Speaker 1: good numbers on the season long stats on Fantasy but
Speaker 1: since joining Kansas City wide receiver nineteen just under ten
Speaker 1: Fantasy points per game on DraftKings. Going up against this
Speaker 1: Bills defense, what are your expectations for Hopkins?
Speaker 4: Well, I like Kansas City in the game. He's their
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice. He's going to be their volume target. He's
Speaker 4: going to be a I mean, listen Nuka Travis Kelsey's
Speaker 4: numbers the last three weeks. They're looking for volume right
Speaker 4: now without Rashi Rice, and so I think he's going
Speaker 4: to get ten targets and you know with Mahomes, seven
Speaker 4: to eight of those are caught. I like the hop
Speaker 4: He doesn't separate. He was never a great separator. That
Speaker 4: was never his game. So when people say, well, you
Speaker 4: know he doesn't separate, that was not his game. He
Speaker 4: was a catch radius guy. He was good after the catch.
Speaker 4: He was good in traffic. So he's aged, actually I
Speaker 4: think very well. Reid and Mahomes. Again, the longer he's
Speaker 4: in the system, the more they can scheme him up.
Speaker 4: So I like the hop in this game, and I
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Remember everybody to head to fantasypros dot Com Slash Challenge
Speaker 1: to play along all seas and long. Thanks again for
Speaker 1: joining Colin. All Right, I guess we'll get into the
Speaker 1: questions otherwise fits is gonna get ornery. Question number one, Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what, I jumped the gun. I do want
Speaker 1: to very quickly talk about Thursday night football, Dero. You
Speaker 1: were kind of mentioning it before we started recording that
Speaker 1: this is kind of how you thought the game was
Speaker 1: going to play out. Eagles twenty six, Commanders eighteen. It
Speaker 1: was a pretty poor performance by this Commander's offense, particularly
Speaker 1: the passing game. As of the end of the third quarter,
Speaker 1: there was nobody besides Austin Eckler with more than one catch.
Speaker 1: Only one wide receiver even had a catch. I think
Speaker 1: it was one catch for four yards, so Noah Brown
Speaker 1: at through three quarters. I mean, it was just everything
Speaker 1: was near the line of scrimmage. Everything was going to
Speaker 1: the running backs or was a run itself.
Speaker 2: From the way you.
Speaker 1: Described this is how you expected to pan out. You're
Speaker 1: not concerned about the Commander's offense.
Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about the Commander's offense, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: surprised about how the game played out. I thought the
Speaker 2: Eagles are going to win the high time though, they're
Speaker 2: going to run the ball very, very effectively. Actually thought
Speaker 2: the Eagles would beat the Commanders by more than they did. Actually,
Speaker 2: but a few things about the game, and like Cliff
Speaker 2: Kingsbury just looked like he went back to the Week
Speaker 2: one playbook. It was like run, run, run, run, screen, screen, screen,
Speaker 2: don't look downfield. Now whether that was Cliff being Cliff
Speaker 2: or a function or result of Jade Daniels in his health,
Speaker 2: because I know Dan Quinn came out after the game
Speaker 2: talked about, Okay, you know the ribs aren't a problem, dude,
Speaker 2: you watch the game. The ribs are a problem. Like
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels did not look like he looked tentative anytime
Speaker 2: he was forced to run. He didn't look dynamic. There's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with his legs. He looked like he was
Speaker 2: basically bracing for hits. And the other thing about it
Speaker 2: from the pocket you saw it as well, like how
Speaker 2: many passes last night did he skip in front of receivers?
Speaker 2: And that's not I mean, Jade Daniels has shown throughout
Speaker 2: the rest of the season that basically like he can
Speaker 2: get it done as a passer. So I think the
Speaker 2: ribs were more of a problem than the Commanders are
Speaker 2: letting on. I don't know how much that impacted the
Speaker 2: game plan or it was just a poor game plan
Speaker 2: walking into this game from Cliff Kingsbury. But the Eagles
Speaker 2: winning and quietly, I would say, the second half in
Speaker 2: a dominating fashion. The way they did that didn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: The way that the Commander's offense, to a large extent,
Speaker 2: the way it operated, did surprise me immensely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fits thirty two passing attempts from Jaden Daniels, sixteen of
Speaker 1: them went to either Austin Eckler or zach Ertz. To
Speaker 1: give you a sense of the game. What was your
Speaker 1: major takeaway coming out of this one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember how terrible these two pass defenses were at
Speaker 3: the end of last season, Like, these were two of
Speaker 3: the most atrocious pass defenses in the league. Huge improvements
Speaker 3: by both and like the Eagles, I think are now
Speaker 3: just a bad matchup in the passing game for people
Speaker 3: like this at the beginning of the season, Like, if
Speaker 3: you had a quarterback going against the Eagles, you were
Speaker 3: probably excited because after what we saw late last year.
Speaker 3: But Quinnyon, Mitchell, Cooper de Jen like those guys have
Speaker 3: really helped with the pass coverage. The pass rush looks
Speaker 3: more fierce than it was late last year, and Washington's
Speaker 3: passa you can still run on Washington, but man like
Speaker 3: night and.
Speaker 5: Day with their pass defense too.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of my takeaway, Like I don't
Speaker 3: think it was necessarily just disappointing quarterback play, Like it's
Speaker 3: a higher bar for quarterbacks to clear going against these
Speaker 3: two defenses these days.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see, not the final form, because
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what the Commander's defense looks
Speaker 2: like after another draft class and free agency, because they've
Speaker 2: got so much money to spend after this season. Dude,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what this defense looks like,
Speaker 2: even when they get marsha On Lattimore fully healthy, Like
Speaker 2: dan Quinn has moved more towards it was kind of
Speaker 2: feeling it out and trying to make things work. A
Speaker 2: lot of too high coverage to begin the year. The
Speaker 2: last three to I think it's four weeks tons of
Speaker 2: single high a lot more man coverage, and Lattimore is
Speaker 2: a player like we've seen it in stretches man like
Speaker 2: when when teams or defenses allow him, the coordinators allow
Speaker 2: him to man up in shadow. He's been extremely good
Speaker 2: at that. So in this in this defense, I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a lot more man coverage and I
Speaker 2: can't wait to see what it looks like in two
Speaker 2: to three weeks from now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that Washington already has the offensive line
Speaker 1: largely built, like all they need to do is pass
Speaker 1: catchers and defense, and that's they so much money to
Speaker 1: do that. So I totally agree. Also, Quine and Mitchell
Speaker 1: is really really good. How did how did the NFL
Speaker 1: let this happen? I loved him in the draft. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe he was following one. It's one of those
Speaker 1: Eagles one is keep getting away with this. They can'tkeep
Speaker 1: getting away of this. It is very reminiscent of Sauce
Speaker 1: Gardner two years ago, like rookie season, defensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year, All first Team, All pros a rookie just
Speaker 1: looks like one of the best cornerbacks in football, Like
Speaker 1: really really impressive. All right, let's jump into our key
Speaker 1: questions Colts at Jets. As we're going to start off,
Speaker 1: Indy is going back to Anthony Richardson, So, Fitz, what
Speaker 1: does this change for fantasy managers for the Colts players
Speaker 1: and for Richardson specifically, where are you ranking him against
Speaker 1: the Jets?
Speaker 3: It has put the value of the Colts pass catchers
Speaker 3: in the dumpster basically, I mean like their value has
Speaker 3: gone up in a puff of smoke. You know, we
Speaker 3: were excited about the passing volume with Joe Flacco. Here's
Speaker 3: what the passing volume is going to look like with
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson. He has played five full games this season,
Speaker 3: He's averaged eleven point two pass completions in that span.
Speaker 3: And now they get Michael Pittman back, So this very
Speaker 3: small pie is being chopped up more ways. Like I've
Speaker 3: got Josh Downs ranked wide receiver thirty nine this week
Speaker 3: in half point PPR, and I consider Pittman, Alec Pearce
Speaker 3: and Ni Mitchell, those guys are just completely unplayable. As
Speaker 3: for Richardson, like tentatively ranking him quarterback twenty, I'm still
Speaker 3: like optimistic long time, but like the Jets, I know
Speaker 3: their defense has been a little disappointing. Still a pretty
Speaker 3: good pass defense though. Whatever Richardson does for fantasy, I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna have to get it done on the
Speaker 3: ground this week, Deep.
Speaker 1: Road, do you agree that Josh Downs is the only
Speaker 1: Colts pass catcher worth starting.
Speaker 2: I do with Michael Pittman. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's still fully healthy. Alec Pearce has been so hit
Speaker 2: or miss like it's Alec Pierce is one of those
Speaker 2: players will look back at the end of the season
Speaker 2: and say, oh, look at these season long numbers and
Speaker 2: it's like, when did you ever start him? Or how
Speaker 2: many times did you actually start him whenever he popped
Speaker 2: off for a big game? Probably never. So I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit higher on Josh Downs than FITZI is. I
Speaker 2: agree with the other pass catches in this offense, but
Speaker 2: I've got Downs at wide receiver thirty. Part of this
Speaker 2: is to what FITZI highlighted at the end there. This
Speaker 2: this past defense has not been the same man like
Speaker 2: since they got rid of Robert Sala. This past defense
Speaker 2: has not been as good. Since Week six. They're allowing
Speaker 2: the eighth highest yards per attempt, the fourth highest EPA
Speaker 2: per dropback, especially to slot wide receivers where they're giving
Speaker 2: it up like since week six again kinder matchup like
Speaker 2: tenth highest PPR points per target to slot receivers. So
Speaker 2: I think Downs is a strong wide receiver three. Although
Speaker 2: I do think that the pass game volume is going
Speaker 2: to come down, but Downs should be the go to
Speaker 2: receiver for Richardson this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Downs needs the volume though, And that's the thing,
Speaker 3: Like he is not a big play guy. He's going
Speaker 3: to average like around ten yards of catch. This dude
Speaker 3: needs to be. Like the last couple of weeks, it
Speaker 3: was kind of disappointing, but he still had like six
Speaker 3: and seven catches, so he had a decent day. If
Speaker 3: you're playing him in like PPR or half PPR. Now
Speaker 3: he's not going to be getting six or seven catches
Speaker 3: a week. And unless he pops off a big play,
Speaker 3: which is really not his forte, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think you're going to be left with marginal flex.
Speaker 1: Value just quickly fit since everybody's starting him anyway. Are
Speaker 1: we more excited about Jonathan Taylor with Anthony Richardson back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, theoretically.
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't see as much of it early
Speaker 3: in the season as I would have liked. Like I
Speaker 3: thought there was gonna be a lot of cool looking
Speaker 3: RPO stuff from this offense, and like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how much of that we really saw early in the year,
Speaker 3: So I mean, I hard to say, like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's an upgrade for him like he was.
Speaker 3: He looked fantastic last week with Joe Flacco, you know,
Speaker 3: didn't get in the end zone, didn't really do much
Speaker 3: as a pass catcher, so his fantasy day wasn't great.
Speaker 3: But Taylor looked amazing last week.
Speaker 1: De you broke any quick thoughts on Taylor.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's a push, to be honest, I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are going to say, like, oh,
Speaker 2: mobility quarterback, But dude, Taylor was freaking awesome. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter who the hell the quarterback has been. So I
Speaker 2: think it's honestly just a push. He was awesome. He'll
Speaker 2: still be awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Ravens at Steeler's best game of the
Speaker 1: one o'clock Eastern window. This late is so great because
Speaker 1: he's got a great gave in the early great gave
Speaker 1: in the late afternoon, in a great Sunday night game,
Speaker 1: so the whole day you're going to get some good
Speaker 1: foot ball. Hopefully. Ravens at Steelers is that game for
Speaker 1: the one pm Eastern window. Steelers have historically been really
Speaker 1: the only one of the only defenses to consistently limit
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He hasn't played them that much considering how
Speaker 1: long he's been in the league. It's been a lot
Speaker 1: of he was out with COVID, or had an injury,
Speaker 1: or it was the last game of the season and
Speaker 1: they were arresting starters. So we haven't seen this matchup
Speaker 1: as much as you might think. But when we do
Speaker 1: see it, Lamar has tended to struggle, at least relative
Speaker 1: to the rest of his career. But this is the
Speaker 1: best Lamar we've ever seen. So, Deebra, what are your
Speaker 1: expectations for Lamar going up against this defense that has
Speaker 1: given him trouble in the past.
Speaker 2: I think you'll be fine. To be honest, I'm not
Speaker 2: worried about him, and I know, like I don't want
Speaker 2: to say, like, you know, Okay, well it's Lamar, you're
Speaker 2: starting him. But since Week five, we're talking about Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Steelers past defense that has allowed the fifth most passing
Speaker 2: yards per game, they have been middle of the road
Speaker 2: seventeenth and success rate per dropback. So I think on paper,
Speaker 2: you know, we get so married to like what these
Speaker 2: defenses look like like. In the entirety of the full season.
Speaker 2: I like to go back and specifically people are reading
Speaker 2: the primer like and look at the season in microcosms
Speaker 2: of like the last five weeks, four weeks, look at
Speaker 2: how teams are playing more recently to really get a
Speaker 2: better sense of how they're playing. So I'm not worried
Speaker 2: about Lamar, Fitz.
Speaker 1: What do you think? And you know, part of it is,
Speaker 1: you know that maybe Tomlin has had kind of Lamar's
Speaker 1: number recently. The other thing is that Tomlin, you know,
Speaker 1: in this defense as a whole, did pretty well just
Speaker 1: last week against Jane Daniels, who is not you know,
Speaker 1: on Lamar's level yet, but you know, obviously stylistically, you know,
Speaker 1: you think of him as a running threat, and they
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job there. So what do you
Speaker 1: think out of the we'll see out of the Baltimore offense?
Speaker 3: Well, I worry about stroking your ego too much as
Speaker 3: a Ravens fan, but I do feel like this offense
Speaker 3: is getting to be pretty close to unstoppable. I mean,
Speaker 3: the threat that Derrick Henry poses for them as a
Speaker 3: runner has just made Lamar even that much more efficient
Speaker 3: and dangerous as a passer. And I didn't really realize
Speaker 3: the extent to which Lamar has been lighting it up
Speaker 3: as a passer lately. Since the start of October, Lamar
Speaker 3: is averaging three hundred and one point eight passing yards
Speaker 3: per game and has thrown for at least two hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty yards in each of those six games. Like
Speaker 3: he's putting up monster passing numbers and always gives you
Speaker 3: a little something as a runner to at least a
Speaker 3: little something, if not more than a little something. So
Speaker 3: man like Lamar has just been you rolled Yatzi if
Speaker 3: you drafted Lamar to be your quarterback this year. And
Speaker 3: it's just such a fun offense. Like if they can
Speaker 3: just you know, I hate to say it, where them,
Speaker 3: but like Super Bowl favorites, if they can just find
Speaker 3: a tournique for their pass tease.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can just be a middling pass defense they
Speaker 1: can have in the offense. It's it's the advanced stats too, right,
Speaker 1: like DVOA has them historically high. I think Aaron Schottz
Speaker 1: said that Lamar's like his deva version of like a
Speaker 1: passing value metric Dyaar. I think it is is like
Speaker 1: the gap between him and number two is like wider
Speaker 1: than the gap of teen two and like player thirteen
Speaker 1: or so, that's I'm kind of butchering the stab, but
Speaker 1: it's something like that where he's just been passing alone
Speaker 1: has been amazing. De bro any other thoughts in this
Speaker 1: passing attack Deontay Johnson revenge game?
Speaker 5: Maybe No?
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I think it's so funny that everybody
Speaker 2: like thought that Mike Tomlin was throwing shade at Deontay
Speaker 2: Johnson or the at least they tried to fire people
Speaker 2: up about that. Deontay Johnson ran two routes last week,
Speaker 2: Like Mike Tomlin's not telling any lies, Like you got
Speaker 2: to be on the field for me to worry about
Speaker 2: defensive game planning against you, and Deontay hasn't done that
Speaker 2: to this point. But the big thing I'd like to
Speaker 2: talk about worn just real quick, is that I'll own
Speaker 2: some of my previous statements about Monkin and this passing
Speaker 2: offense earlier in the season. They have really found their direction.
Speaker 2: They have really found their way. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of that has to do not just Lamar playing awesome,
Speaker 2: not just the so many weapons around him. I think
Speaker 2: the offensive line figuring it out and finding their way
Speaker 2: has really helped this offense to be more functional, and
Speaker 2: it's really taken into another level. Mark Andrews, whether we
Speaker 2: want to talk about like his health maybe, like which
Speaker 2: has not been talked about, like the Ravens haven't come
Speaker 2: out and said like he was limited to start the season.
Speaker 2: We've seen a very different usage from Mark Andrews, especially
Speaker 2: last week, in the last few weeks. But this is
Speaker 2: arguably the best offense in football right now. Like, they
Speaker 2: have so many ways to beat you, they have so
Speaker 2: many different weapons, and quietly, Rashad Bateman is bawling the
Speaker 2: hell out man like he is looking like the player
Speaker 2: that I thought he was when he was a prospect.
Speaker 2: Finally healthy, his roles changed in this offense. I mean,
Speaker 2: their defense is terrible, but dude, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: score thirty to thirty five points to freaking beat Baltimore
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even arguable that this is the
Speaker 1: best offense in football right now. Well the last that
Speaker 1: you never know, this team has had their struggles in
Speaker 1: January certainly, Like I'm not going to come out here
Speaker 1: and say they're Super Bowl favorites or anything like Fitz
Speaker 1: was alluding to. But as of right now, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a case against them as the best offense
Speaker 1: in football just with what Lamar is doing, not that
Speaker 1: there aren't other good offenses, and the Steelers offense has
Speaker 1: been playing better too, especially since Russell Wilson kind of
Speaker 1: took over. I want to ask you guys quickly just
Speaker 1: on the other side of this one, because a lot
Speaker 1: of people have talked about Russell Wilson great matchup, this
Speaker 1: past defense stinks, and they're right. However, the two kind
Speaker 1: of areas where the Ravens struggle most. And obviously I
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Ravens defensive plays middle of the
Speaker 1: field where Russell Wilson does not throw, and the Steelers
Speaker 1: don't make most of their hay or these elite wide
Speaker 1: receiver ones Jamar Chase Seeding, Lamb Rashi Rice when you're healthy,
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams in week two. Those are the guys that
Speaker 1: have really burned the Ravens or the middle of the
Speaker 1: field guys, and that's not really what the Steelers have
Speaker 1: unless you put George Pickens in that category, which I
Speaker 1: think he's still a tier or two below those guys. So, deebro,
Speaker 1: do we think that we're maybe overrating this matchup for
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson given stylistically how they play.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I understand like Russell Wilson hasn't seen
Speaker 2: the field maybe since in the middle of the field
Speaker 2: since high school. But regardless of that, I think they'll
Speaker 2: be fine this week. I mean, like, dude, George Pickens
Speaker 2: can get it done. Mike Williams. I think that Mike
Speaker 2: Williams and his role in this offense and how much
Speaker 2: he plays this week, I think is going to play
Speaker 2: a big role, a big role on how well Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson plays as far as his ceiling outcome. But Dude,
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's played extremely well in the sense of like
Speaker 2: he's getting it done. I do think a lot of
Speaker 2: it is. I think there's a regression coming for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I don't think it happens this week because if you
Speaker 2: look at like a lot of his yards per attempt,
Speaker 2: all the different stuff, he looks really freaking good, Like
Speaker 2: he's thirty yards per attempt amongst forty one qualifying quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: but the other like threading the need old type of
Speaker 2: accurate stuff, accuracy stuff like he's thirty fifth and Cpoe
Speaker 2: he's fortieth and highly accurate throw rates. So there's a
Speaker 2: regression and like a down game coming for Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: But I do not think that it happens this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fits. I guess it comes down to, in terms
Speaker 1: of the way I'm framing it, how you viewed George Pickens,
Speaker 1: if he is kind of that alpha guy that can
Speaker 1: really take advantage of this Ravens defense, because if not,
Speaker 1: then it reminds me a lot of the Bills offense stylistically,
Speaker 1: and that was in offense that the Ravens defense actually
Speaker 1: shut down this year. But again, if you think Pickens
Speaker 1: is playing at that high of the level, then that
Speaker 1: kind of changes the calculation. What do you think, Well, I've.
Speaker 3: Got Pickens top ten, but we know there's always bust
Speaker 3: in that Boomer bust profile. You never know, like he
Speaker 3: could give you the two catch game that the game
Speaker 3: where he for whatever reason doesn't seem particularly inspired.
Speaker 5: But it's funny, worm. I know you've been talking.
Speaker 3: About the soft pink underbelly of the Ravens pass defense
Speaker 3: the middle of the field a lot, and it inspired
Speaker 3: me to bet the over on Calvin Austin receiving yardage
Speaker 3: at twenty and a half yards because I figure if
Speaker 3: they are if Russ does choose to attack the middle
Speaker 3: of the field, which debatable, he does prefer throwing the boundaries,
Speaker 3: no question. Maybe Austin is the guy who does some
Speaker 3: of that damage. So I kind of like that. But
Speaker 3: bet it's interesting though. The Steelers are this run heavy team.
Speaker 3: They've run on fifty three point three percent of their
Speaker 3: offensive snaps this year, and the Ravens great against the run,
Speaker 3: not so good against the pass. Do the Steelers stick
Speaker 3: to their guns and run the ball or do they
Speaker 3: open things up and let Ross cook? But please, Worm,
Speaker 3: do not ask me to go spelunking. And Arthur Smith's
Speaker 3: brain don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton also, I don't think he's gonna play, or
Speaker 1: if he does, he's gonna be really limited. And if
Speaker 1: that really helps the screen game, if the Steelers want
Speaker 1: to try and take advantage of that. So yeah, a
Speaker 1: bad defense getting worse in Baltimore. By the way, Just
Speaker 1: the last thing, I think forty eight and a half
Speaker 1: points is too high for the total on DraftKings, you do,
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's way too high. I
Speaker 1: like the under on that for sure.
Speaker 2: How do they not get there though, Like because it
Speaker 2: do do the Steelers not put it up because we
Speaker 2: know the Ravens are gonna put up twenty five twenty
Speaker 2: eight points.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Ravens Twitlers kink gets the
Speaker 1: Ravens Steelers is almost always lower scoring. Again, like Tomlin
Speaker 1: has done really well against Lamar, I worry about TJ.
Speaker 1: Watt going up against the right side of Theravens offensive
Speaker 1: line is worse than the left. I worry about TJ
Speaker 1: walk going up against the right side. I know they
Speaker 1: lost Highsmiths, but they get her big back. I just
Speaker 1: don't think the Ravens are going to get thirty points
Speaker 1: twenty eight points in this one. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I worry that stylistically, the Steelers like are not the
Speaker 1: best matchup for what the Ravens. The one the few
Speaker 1: things that the Ravens defense can do. I worry that
Speaker 1: that's what the Steelers are going to try and go
Speaker 1: up against. So I mean, if this total was like
Speaker 1: in the mid forties or low forties, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it should be in the thirties or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but forty eight and a half, like almost close to
Speaker 1: fifty points like, I just think that's too high.
Speaker 3: Personally, it's hard to fathom for you as this. You know,
Speaker 3: the fan is used to these Ravens Steelers game Flacko
Speaker 3: versus Roethlisberger sixteen to thirteen.
Speaker 5: A lot of field goals could be different, though this.
Speaker 1: Time A lot A lot of the advanced analytic guys
Speaker 1: like the over in this one. So I might be
Speaker 1: proven wrong, and maybe this is just my kind of
Speaker 1: fan narrative peeking through, but yeah, I just I saw
Speaker 1: that number and I did a double take.
Speaker 2: You're just trying to keep expectations for your team, and Jack,
Speaker 2: that's all you're doing.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get the fits this Steve Packers is
Speaker 1: that Bears fits. We're gonna talk about Chicago side of things, though,
Speaker 1: any more interest in the Bears offensive players now that
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron is out. What do you think our expectations
Speaker 1: should be?
Speaker 5: Uh low?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a lot of hope. DeAndre Swift is playable,
Speaker 3: but that's it. I mean, the Bear's passing game is
Speaker 3: a train rack right now. The offensive line is bad
Speaker 3: and banged up. Caleb is holding onto the ballway too long.
Speaker 3: He took nine sacks last week against the Patriots. In
Speaker 3: the three games since the Bears Week seven by Caleb
Speaker 3: has completed fifty point five percent of his passes and
Speaker 3: has averaged one hundred and fifty six passing yards per
Speaker 3: game and four point nine yards per attempt. Like he
Speaker 3: has just been lost and it's gonna take more than
Speaker 3: a week to fix it.
Speaker 1: Debro, what do you think.
Speaker 2: I I'll echo everything that fits, he said, Like, it's
Speaker 2: you play DeAndre Swift if you got him, probably the
Speaker 2: pass catcher. I feel best about that as the best
Speaker 2: matchup is probably cole Commit honestly, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to play any of these Bears pass catchers. You sit
Speaker 2: all of them, Like Kayleb Williams looked terrible. It's it
Speaker 2: and people, I'm not saying that Shane Waldron made a
Speaker 2: good offense, but we really need to understand and lay
Speaker 2: a lot of this at the feet of Kayleb Williams too.
Speaker 2: And dude, this I threw a lot of this out there,
Speaker 2: like I'm not I don't want I want him to succeed.
Speaker 2: I want him to play well and I want him
Speaker 2: to have a really awesome career. Like the talent is
Speaker 2: definitely there, but playing on schedule, not running in seventeen circles,
Speaker 2: like not trying to make everything a home run play.
Speaker 2: A lot of these bad habits you could see on
Speaker 2: his twenty twenty three film at USC and it's and
Speaker 2: it's not changed, and it's like, dude, like you can't
Speaker 2: get away with all that kind of stuff, Like that
Speaker 2: can't be like that kind of secret sauce is great
Speaker 2: when you need to go out there and make a play,
Speaker 2: but that cannot be how you were attacking every single
Speaker 2: snap in every game.
Speaker 1: You famously hated him during the draft process.
Speaker 2: Didn't you. He was like QV three, don't God, No,
Speaker 2: I wasn't insane, but like I had him as my
Speaker 2: TV three and like during the process people hated that.
Speaker 2: They were like, ah, this is all just like hot Muda,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, Like I'm just acknowledging that there
Speaker 2: was a larger or a wider range of outcomes for
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams than I think some of the talk was
Speaker 2: about him. Now. I still think that the upside is
Speaker 2: still there for him, but there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: he's going to need to clean up, and like systematically,
Speaker 2: they're going to have to change how how an offense
Speaker 2: runs or is built around what he does well and what.
Speaker 1: He struggles with classic Debros. They're really clapping his hate.
Speaker 5: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It was a good call by Debro for sure. I
Speaker 3: mean he might have totally whiffed one McCarthy over Drake May,
Speaker 3: but got to give him credit for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: JJ's coming from that receipt next year fancying. I know
Speaker 2: you don't want to give any Vikings love, but he's coming.
Speaker 1: From Barticlear with how good Drake May has looked just
Speaker 1: quickly scaled one to ten fits long term concern for
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams five five, Debra.
Speaker 5: Somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2: Six and a half. I'm not gonna say seven, but
Speaker 2: like I'm definitely above the media and like they have
Speaker 2: to nail this next head coaching higher. If they do not,
Speaker 2: I mean we're gonna he's gonna go possibly the road
Speaker 2: of like so many other like young quarterbacks, new offensive system,
Speaker 2: new play caller, new offensive system, new play caller, and
Speaker 2: the guy just gets churned through all this different stuff
Speaker 2: and it ruins him.
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Speaker 1: Debro Vikings at Titans. Is Calvin Ridley back in the
Speaker 1: circle of trust for fantasy managers? He has eight or
Speaker 1: more targets in every game since the week five by
Speaker 1: and his last three games include ten catches for one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty three yards, five catches for seventy three yards,
Speaker 1: and five catches for eighty four yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: In terms of his weekly floor being higher, yes, based
Speaker 2: off the volume, Do I feel rosy about rolling him
Speaker 2: out there every week? No, It's still a Will Levis
Speaker 2: led offense. You're still giving that type of target quality
Speaker 2: on a weekly basis, which is not good, and the
Speaker 2: backup is not any better and Mason Rudolph. So the
Speaker 2: big thing I want to highlight about Calvin Ridley this
Speaker 2: week is that the coverage matchup specifically for him, is
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. He's been much much better this year
Speaker 2: against single high Minnesota runs too high at the highest
Speaker 2: rate in the freaking NFL. Against too high, Calvin Ridley
Speaker 2: one point four yards per route run. So I think
Speaker 2: the target volume is going to be there. I don't
Speaker 2: think the big day is going to be there for
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, and I mean again like purple Hayes baby,
Speaker 2: Like do we think that Minnesota Vikings defense is going
Speaker 2: to make Will Levis's life a living hell this week?
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Fitz, What do you think based on the rankings I'm
Speaker 1: looking at here when their last updated, you are several
Speaker 1: spots higher than debro on Calvin Ridley. So are you
Speaker 1: expecting a bigger day than he is?
Speaker 3: I am, And maybe the efficiency is down a little
Speaker 3: bit against you know, this Vikings team, But the Vikings
Speaker 3: have allowed a lot of receiving yardage to wide receivers.
Speaker 3: And over the last three weeks, not only has Calvin
Speaker 3: Ridley had let's see, three hundred yards in his last
Speaker 3: three games, I care more about the target chair it's
Speaker 3: thirty four percent over his last three games. Like he
Speaker 3: is a true alpha receiver. Now it's amazing. Like a
Speaker 3: month ago, you could not start either Calvin Ridley or
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins in fantasy and now they're both like solid
Speaker 3: wide receiver twos, Like guys you want to get into
Speaker 3: your starting lineup every week. So yeah, like for me,
Speaker 3: he's back in the circle of trust, and we talked
Speaker 3: about this on the starts at show Worm. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of fantasy managers who have a lot of
Speaker 3: scar tissue related to Calvin Ridley, and you know you
Speaker 3: just got to pick that scab and roll with them, man,
Speaker 3: Like this isn't a true alpha receiver right now.
Speaker 2: The best way that I guess, the best parallel that
Speaker 2: I can make about my feelings about Calvin Ridley, I
Speaker 2: look at his situation and I look at Jacoby meyer situation,
Speaker 2: and I think they are EXAs exactly the same, Like
Speaker 2: both of them are going to see twenty eight to
Speaker 2: thirty percent target shares, both are going to see a
Speaker 2: ton of volume. Ridley's just had the big games, whereas
Speaker 2: Myers is seeing the same target volume, same bad quarterback play,
Speaker 2: but really just walk away with the big games lately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I he's one of those guys that I have
Speaker 1: scar tissue from for sure. Deever, do you have like
Speaker 1: a player that has burned you enough times on starting
Speaker 1: them in the wrong weeks? Is there one that comes
Speaker 1: to mind for you? Because really's not that.
Speaker 2: Short list for me? Really's on the short list for
Speaker 2: that the guy that I feel like I haven't gotten
Speaker 2: right nearly enough. Like I pegged the really big game
Speaker 2: that he had against New England, did not see the
Speaker 2: one against the JSN has been flummencing, flummixing me this
Speaker 2: this year, Like I feel like I got the one
Speaker 2: big game against New England right, but the other one
Speaker 2: I totally whiffed on. So yeah, it's been when do
Speaker 2: you feel good about playing him?
Speaker 1: Let's go to Browns at Saints. And we didn't really
Speaker 1: talk about this guy on the start six shoh. I
Speaker 1: wasn't on the waiver wire stuff in the early part
Speaker 1: of the week. But I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: on Sunday we're talking about we cannot actually in good
Speaker 1: conscience recommend this guy. But I have to ask, considering
Speaker 1: the game he's coming off of, are we starting Marquez
Speaker 1: Valdez Gantling coming off his three catch game for one
Speaker 1: hundred and nine yards and two touchdowns? Fits where are
Speaker 1: you ranking MVS?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: He's outside the top fifty for me, not too far
Speaker 3: outside the top fifty. I've just I've seen too much
Speaker 3: of the MVS show in Green Bay. There are moments,
Speaker 3: but there's also a lot of misery, and it's just
Speaker 3: it's always going to be a wide range of outcomes
Speaker 3: for him because the target counts are unpredictable and usually
Speaker 3: on the lower side, and he has this high average
Speaker 3: depth of target, so they're going to be shot play
Speaker 3: opportunities for him. And when he cashes in a couple
Speaker 3: like he did last week, it looks glorious. But then
Speaker 3: he's gonna let one clang off his hands. They're gonna
Speaker 3: be a couple that the connection just isn't on targets.
Speaker 3: So no, I don't think you can start him with
Speaker 3: any comfort level. I gotta say, though, Debro as a
Speaker 3: Saints fan, for all his warts, Derek Carr throws a
Speaker 3: really pretty deep ball.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: It does like that guy can spin it.
Speaker 2: It's one of the few freaking things he does well.
Speaker 1: Debra, what do you think about MVS this week?
Speaker 2: I've got him as a wide receiver four. I got
Speaker 2: him at wide receiver forty seven. I agree with pretty
Speaker 2: much everything fits, he said. The one thing I'll I'll
Speaker 2: add here on MBS is to the point of like
Speaker 2: fits he talking about like okay, as far as that
Speaker 2: the high average up target the reason I'm higher than
Speaker 2: FITZI and I have him as a wide receiver four
Speaker 2: and I think there is a ceiling outcome this week
Speaker 2: is because the correlation is true is you play MBS
Speaker 2: versus teams that suck, versus deep balls that are bad
Speaker 2: versus deep ball passing. And the Browns quietly have been
Speaker 2: terrible versus that, Like they're allowing the fifth highest passing
Speaker 2: yards or deep passing yards and they've allowed the seventh
Speaker 2: highest deep passer rating. And speaking of Derek Carr's deep
Speaker 2: ball's good. And so I think there is a ceiling
Speaker 2: opportunity for MBS. But if you're playing him, just know
Speaker 2: that the reality of him getting you sixteen points are saying,
Speaker 2: like you know, two for eighty, the reality of him
Speaker 2: getting you one for five as far as like one
Speaker 2: reception five yards is just as real as the ceiling outcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's really much more to add
Speaker 1: on mvs. Obviously, great game last week, Still only three catches.
Speaker 1: He's wide receiver fifty one an ECR right now for
Speaker 1: a half PPR. So he broke a couple of spots higher,
Speaker 1: but not like he's aggressively ahead of consensus on this one.
Speaker 1: We're all kind of on the same page here. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Seahawks at forty nine ers. Obviously good game
Speaker 1: for the NFC West, the late Slate, the late afternoon slate,
Speaker 1: not just Bill's Chiefs. It's all some really interesting games here.
Speaker 1: We'll get to all of them. Seahawks Niners are the
Speaker 1: first one. Though Christian McCaffrey returned last week, wasn't super
Speaker 1: efficient running the ball, did have six catches for I
Speaker 1: think sixty something yards. I forgot to write that down.
Speaker 1: What did you do you think of his return in
Speaker 1: week ten? De bro and what are your expectations for
Speaker 1: him this weekend beyond? Is he back to a I
Speaker 1: mean you're starting him obviously, but is he back to
Speaker 1: a set and forget it, top three, top five running back?
Speaker 2: I think he is based off of the volume and
Speaker 2: Fitzy nailed this. I was more tentative last week. Fitzy
Speaker 2: was all over this the entire week, like, if he
Speaker 2: comes back, he's coming back to his his role. They're
Speaker 2: not going to limit him. And I was I was wrong.
Speaker 2: I was absolutely wrong, dude. He played eighty eight percent
Speaker 2: of the snaps. He had nineteen touches, like.
Speaker 1: Six catches with sixty eight yards. By the way, was
Speaker 1: the number.
Speaker 2: RB ten for the week and he I mean that
Speaker 2: was basically with a if you because he didn't score
Speaker 2: a touchdown, I'm not wrong in that, right, Guys, Like
Speaker 2: if he scores a touchdown, he's a top three option
Speaker 2: for the freaking week. So I will say that he
Speaker 2: did look like a guy that was in his first
Speaker 2: game back, Like the receiving utility is always going to
Speaker 2: be there, like he could roll out of his roll
Speaker 2: out of the bed and like get three for forty
Speaker 2: through the air. But like the fact that in the
Speaker 2: early downs he didn't force any mistackles and he only
Speaker 2: got one point four to six yards up to contact
Speaker 2: per attempt, I think is more indicative of where he's
Speaker 2: at right now. So volume, touchdown equity, past game role,
Speaker 2: all those things a gonna be awesome, But I think
Speaker 2: that we're still gonna have to see, like he's gonna
Speaker 2: be rounding into form now. Seattle could make him look
Speaker 2: amazing this week because their run defense is bottom five,
Speaker 2: so they're probably gonna boost a lot of these tackle
Speaker 2: breaking metrics for him.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 1: Fits CMC is back at RB one in ECR, so
Speaker 1: everybody kind of saw with anything to seed and slide
Speaker 1: him right back in that spot. Even ahead of guys
Speaker 1: who've been doing it all year, like Derek Henry, like
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, who we already saw play last night. You know,
Speaker 1: they're all behind Christian McCaffrey right now in the rankings,
Speaker 1: and so were you just kind of full steam ahead
Speaker 1: as if he had never been hurt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's my RB one. I did move him.
Speaker 3: I initially had Saquon RB one, and regretfully I moved
Speaker 3: McCaffrey ahead of him. Kyle Shanahan just can't resist giving
Speaker 3: CMC more touches than a man of his stature should
Speaker 3: probably be getting. But yeah, I thought it was gonna
Speaker 3: be like fifteen or sixteen touches last week. It was
Speaker 3: actually nineteen. We're rolling with him, and uh oh, by
Speaker 3: the way, you also have to roll with Debo in
Speaker 3: this matchup. Deebo just crucifies the Seahawks whenever he plays them.
Speaker 3: Like over his last four games, Debo has been over
Speaker 3: one hundred receiving yards in three of them, and I
Speaker 3: think his low watermark was like seventy eight yards.
Speaker 5: Like, Deebo just destroys Seattle.
Speaker 2: Debro.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that one of your maybe scar t issue
Speaker 1: guys is Jackson Smith and Jig. But where are you
Speaker 1: ranking him this week in this matchup with DK Metcalf
Speaker 1: likely returning.
Speaker 2: I've got him as a wide receiver thirty four. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna get a lot of targets, but I
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna I don't know what he's gonna
Speaker 2: do very much with them. DK Metcalf is going to
Speaker 2: be the primary option. And this all that comes back to,
Speaker 2: like again, the coverages, Like since Week four, forty nine
Speaker 2: ers have had fifty five percent of the defensive snap's
Speaker 2: have been single high. The the target share re rearly
Speaker 2: really moves in the direction of DK Metcalf when Seattle
Speaker 2: faces a single high and Jackson, Smith and Jig, but
Speaker 2: has not been great, I mean one point twenty five
Speaker 2: yards per route run. San Francisco has also been very
Speaker 2: good against slot wide receivers, like eleventh fewest fantasy points
Speaker 2: per game. So I think he's gonna We're gonna see
Speaker 2: one of those kind of four or say five catches
Speaker 2: for fifty type of days out of JSM this week.
Speaker 1: By the way, is there anything official on Metcalf? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we're all like very much assuming he's back
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: I didn't see he practiced in fold, so I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he could be a full.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I didn't do anything. Yeah, fits,
Speaker 1: I mean the last time we saw JSN, he looked
Speaker 1: really good and looked like he was deserving of getting
Speaker 1: a whole lot more workload. But that was without DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1: So where are you ranking him this week?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty yards in the two touchdowns against
Speaker 3: the Rams, And I want to be optimistic because that
Speaker 3: looked spectacular, But I'm pretty much right where Dee broy is.
Speaker 3: I've got a mid wide receiver thirty three. The thing is,
Speaker 3: he's played seven games with DK Metcalf this year. He
Speaker 3: is top fifty one yards in just one of those
Speaker 3: seven games.
Speaker 2: That was the Patriots game. I think, right, I think so, And.
Speaker 1: Where you guys are ranking DK Metcalf doesn't change based
Speaker 1: on the last thing we saw from JSN. Right, you
Speaker 1: think he's still solidified enough that whatever JSN does isn't
Speaker 1: going to impact him. Or do you think maybe they
Speaker 1: tried and split that difference a little bit more.
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf's the alpha this passing at Tech. I got
Speaker 2: my I agree.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask, because again JSN does look amazing.
Speaker 2: Last time we saw where do you have DK this week?
Speaker 2: FITZI fourteen?
Speaker 3: That might be a little might be a little too low,
Speaker 3: but you know he's a guy.
Speaker 5: You're unquestionably starting in ECR.
Speaker 1: He is wide receiver thirteen, so right in that same spot, guys,
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Speaker 1: four nine five zero four zero. All right, guys, Falcons
Speaker 1: at Broncos. Broncos defense looks more like their usual strong
Speaker 1: cells against Kansas City than they had the week before.
Speaker 1: In Baltimore. Do you have any concerns for the top
Speaker 1: Falcons players in this matchup given how well the Broncos
Speaker 1: defense has played recently.
Speaker 3: Fits So, I don't know if we get smash games
Speaker 3: from Kirk Cousins, Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Kyle Pitts, But
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone can stop be Jean Robinson
Speaker 3: right now. I don't really have any concerns for him.
Speaker 3: He has been just so impressive, so so good lately.
Speaker 3: He's averaging ninety two point six rushing yards over his
Speaker 3: last five games and five point three yards per carry.
Speaker 3: Just watching him like he is one of the smartest
Speaker 3: runners in the league. Just the way he sets up
Speaker 3: his blocks and knows exactly when to pump the brakes
Speaker 3: a little bit and when to punch the gas. It's
Speaker 3: just he's become such a fun guy to watch, and
Speaker 3: now the Falcons are finally like giving him the sort
Speaker 3: of workload he deserves a guy befitting his talent. I
Speaker 3: think over those last five games he's averaged something like
Speaker 3: seventeen point six rushing yards per game, Like that should
Speaker 3: be pretty much the floor for him every week. This
Speaker 3: guy needs to get at least sixteen or seventeen carries
Speaker 3: weekend week out.
Speaker 1: De bro, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I think Bjon is the truth. Since Week six, the
Speaker 2: RB one in fantasy by a decent margin two point
Speaker 2: six fantasy points per game. Just Bijon has been amazing.
Speaker 2: He hasn't scored less than twenty one point five Fantasy
Speaker 2: points in PPR setting over these last five games. So
Speaker 2: I echo everything fits just said. I think that looking
Speaker 2: at this matchup, I think this game points specifically to
Speaker 2: two two players being or should be the focal point
Speaker 2: for how Atlanta attacks Denver, and that is Bijon, that
Speaker 2: is also Kyle Pitts. The secondary for Denver has been very,
Speaker 2: very good. The coverage structure for them is really leans
Speaker 2: itself to Kyle Pitts. They run Denver runs single high
Speaker 2: almost fifty nine percent of the defensive snaps Kyle Pits
Speaker 2: versus single high two point eight three yards per route run.
Speaker 2: So you're staying away from the good corners specifically, and
Speaker 2: I mean that's gonna lead me right into Drake London. Dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have gone back and forth so
Speaker 2: much about where the hell am I going to rank
Speaker 2: Drake London for this week. I have him at wide
Speaker 2: receiver twenty four right now, I really want to push
Speaker 2: him into wide receiver three territory. And I know people
Speaker 2: are gonna say, like that is an overreaction, but before
Speaker 2: I really I really want to know where you have
Speaker 2: him this week, FITZI. But before we get to that, like,
Speaker 2: I just got to bring this up. Man, Like the
Speaker 2: Week one matchup that he had against Joey Porter, I
Speaker 2: think we see shades of that this week. Patrick Sirsan
Speaker 2: is going to shadow him. That is going to happen.
Speaker 2: And in Week one, Joey Porter followed drake Lonnon on
Speaker 2: sixty five percent of his routes. Drake Lonnon had one
Speaker 2: catch and seven receptions. Patrick Scsan has shadowed five times
Speaker 2: this season, following a wide receiver on at least sixty
Speaker 2: percent of the routes. None none of those wide receivers
Speaker 2: have surpassed thirty receiving yards in his primary coverage and
Speaker 2: zero touchdowns with certain shadowed them. So like, I am
Speaker 2: hugely worried about Drake len I'm like, he's got a
Speaker 2: score this week to maybe even be like a wide
Speaker 2: receiver three. But Fitzy, am I overreacting here.
Speaker 3: I'm maybe not as positive as you are that London
Speaker 3: is going to be shadowed by Sirtan Like I know, pff,
Speaker 3: I think they're projecting Darnell Mooney to actually run more
Speaker 3: rout since is the coverage of Cirtan than than I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's right. Like, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 3: if London did get the shadow. I've got him in
Speaker 3: wide receiver fifteen, and it's mostly that I don't really
Speaker 3: like any of the options after about wide receiver thirteen
Speaker 3: or fourteen, like Metcalf, and then things go down hell
Speaker 3: fast after that.
Speaker 2: He shadowed Metcalf, Mike Evans, George Pickens, and Garrett Wilson
Speaker 2: on at least sixty percent of the routes. He followed
Speaker 2: Myers on fifty percent of his routes, and nobody, nobody,
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't shadow anybody outside of that. But
Speaker 2: that's that's a freaking impressive list of good dudes that
Speaker 2: he just shut down.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the game of the week, Chiefs at Bills,
Speaker 1: one of the games of the season. Rather than trying
Speaker 1: to identify one question to analyze in this game, I
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of let you guys have a chance
Speaker 1: to pick one player who you think in this game
Speaker 1: will outperform expectations, and one player who you think in
Speaker 1: this game will underperform expectations. And by the way, while
Speaker 1: we were recording, it was announced that Dalton Kincaid is
Speaker 1: officially out for this game. That as well fits I'll
Speaker 1: start with you here. Pick one player who will outperform
Speaker 1: expectations and one player who will underperform.
Speaker 3: Then I guess I gotta steal Dawson Knox from Debro
Speaker 3: just like that's the guy. Like Kincaid is out and
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have given up the most receiving yards in
Speaker 3: the league to tight ends, it just seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: plus Amari Cooper, we don't really know about his status.
Speaker 3: It seems like he's tracking to play with his wrist injury,
Speaker 3: but like he's said, it gives him some difficulty catching
Speaker 3: the ball, So if that turns out to be a problem.
Speaker 3: We know Keon Coleman's not playing for the Bills, so
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Dawson Knox with
Speaker 3: like five or six catches for fifty plus yards underperform
Speaker 3: James Cook like the Chiefs run Dye has just been
Speaker 3: lights out fifty two point six rushing yards per game
Speaker 3: allowed to running backs, three point two yards per carry
Speaker 3: allowed to running backs, third in the league in DVOA
Speaker 3: against the run, and Cook's probably gonna need rushing volume
Speaker 3: to uh, you know, make his bones in fantasy this week.
Speaker 3: He doesn't always get it. He's had twelve or fewer
Speaker 3: carries in four of his nine games.
Speaker 5: So far this season.
Speaker 1: Do you throw what you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The Dawson Knox call, I mean right now with the newsworm,
Speaker 2: I just moved Dawson Knox up to tight end twelve,
Speaker 2: and I mean people are going to say that's too high, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: come on, like.
Speaker 5: I had I had him at te twelve already. Yep,
Speaker 5: you bro.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, he all I needed was the confirmation
Speaker 2: that he was going to be their starter this week.
Speaker 2: That's all I was waiting for. I think he's going
Speaker 2: to crush. The other guy that I will highlight here
Speaker 2: is Khalil Shakir. I've got him. Where's the ECR at
Speaker 2: right now? On him? Worm? Because I'm kind of curious,
Speaker 2: like I haven't looked and seen that I want to
Speaker 2: be above, massively above consensus on him.
Speaker 1: See the ECR has him at wide receiver twenty six.
Speaker 2: I've got him at wide receiver fifteen this week. And
Speaker 2: anybody that thinks that's crazy, dude, anybody that thinks that crazy,
Speaker 2: that's crazy has not been reading the primer and has
Speaker 2: not seen what Kansas City has done versus slot receivers,
Speaker 2: Like they're allowing the fourth highest receiving yards per game
Speaker 2: and the second highest fantasy points per game to opposing
Speaker 2: slot wide receivers. Coverage matchup is as it's immaculate, like
Speaker 2: you could not draw up a better coverage matchup for
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir, like Kansas City has the third highest rate
Speaker 2: of too high against too high this year Khalil Shakir
Speaker 2: since Week seven, since basically he has been thrust into
Speaker 2: this high volume roll against too high since week seven,
Speaker 2: thirty percent target chare for Khalil Shakir forty percent first
Speaker 2: read here like, so Josh Allen when he drops back
Speaker 2: this week, it's going to be I'm looking for Shakir,
Speaker 2: where's he at? Okay, Dawson Knox, where are you at?
Speaker 2: That's the two reads every single time, and and Fitzied
Speaker 2: nailed this. I have nothing else to add on James
Speaker 2: Cook bad matchup. I'm worried about him.
Speaker 1: What about on the Chief side, because you guys both
Speaker 1: picked both players on the Bill side. Is there anybody
Speaker 1: in the Chief side that you think will either outperform
Speaker 1: or underperform expectations this week?
Speaker 2: Dude, I want to be above consensus. Where where's DeAndre
Speaker 2: Hopkins in ECR right now?
Speaker 1: Hopkins is at wide receiver twenty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got him at wide receiver fourteen, And I
Speaker 2: really think that, you know, we look at the name
Speaker 2: of the Bills on paper and we say, wow, it's
Speaker 2: a past defense to stay away from. They've shown some
Speaker 2: kind of cracks in the pavement over the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: Since Week five, they've allowed the tenth most Fantasy points
Speaker 2: per game to perimeter wide receivers. I think Hopkins is
Speaker 2: set up for a quietly like really really good game
Speaker 2: like and that that also flows over to Patrick Mahomes like.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people realize this is a quiet,
Speaker 2: like damn good spot for both of them.
Speaker 1: If it's any thoughts on the Chief side.
Speaker 3: Quickly, yeah, I mean, I'm not My concern about Hopkins
Speaker 3: te Bro is if Juju is coming back and they
Speaker 3: put Juju back in that slot roll that Rashi Rice roll,
Speaker 3: is there going to be the sort of target count
Speaker 3: we want for DeAndre Hopkins?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, is he going to get Pepper in the same
Speaker 3: way if Juju is back? And like, I don't expect
Speaker 3: Juju to be getting a full Rashi Rice target load
Speaker 3: now that you know Kelsey has been taken out of
Speaker 3: moth balls and Hopkins is there. But I do wonder
Speaker 3: if targets maybe get chopped up a little and we
Speaker 3: can't count on Hopkins for even like seven or eight targets.
Speaker 2: The biggest pushback I have on Juju right now is
Speaker 2: I don't think in his first game back, as much
Speaker 2: as he's dealt with hamstring issues, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a full time player. So I think we
Speaker 2: you know, it's a valid concern. I think in the
Speaker 2: next like two to three weeks, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a full time player. This week, I think
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna see like a thirty to forty percent
Speaker 2: route share. I think they're probably gonna mix him in
Speaker 2: with Justin Watson this week. So that's that's probably just
Speaker 2: the difference in how we how we're viewing this week's outlook.
Speaker 1: Bengals at Chargers. Before we get to the key question
Speaker 1: for Sunday Night's matchup, I want to ask you guys
Speaker 1: about your Uber Eats Sunday Night Meals of the week debro.
Speaker 1: What must order food gets you reaching for your Uber
Speaker 1: Eats app for great game day deals when you think
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles?
Speaker 2: Dude, I know we went back and forth on this
Speaker 2: and we were like, Okay, what are we Who am
Speaker 2: I going to talk about? Like I almost kind of
Speaker 2: went to my go to here, but I have to
Speaker 2: bring up Pink's hot dogs like that. That was the
Speaker 2: go to for me. Like, dude, I know, hot dogs
Speaker 2: like are kind of the ick for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: But a good freaking chili dog there's I just it's
Speaker 2: one of my comfort food. Man.
Speaker 1: So, like I was shacked. Dog that you dropped in
Speaker 1: slack is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Oh my dude, it's ridiculous. A nine inch stretch dog
Speaker 2: with onions, mustard and freaking onion rings on it, specifically
Speaker 2: four of them for all of his championship rings. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I just I mean give me three
Speaker 2: of them. I'm in heaven. I'm in heaven.
Speaker 1: I actually can't stand onion rings. For the record, fits
Speaker 1: what is your game, Dame de Old in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5: I'm going to hear about the onion ring thing in
Speaker 5: a second word.
Speaker 3: But so normally my answers are are pretty carnivore friendly.
Speaker 3: But I do appreciate a good chopped salad, and I
Speaker 3: know Los Angeles is the birthplace of the chopped salad,
Speaker 3: and there's some places in town that do it really well.
Speaker 1: The correct answer for Los Angeles is street tacos, and
Speaker 1: that's what I will be picking. I am a fairly
Speaker 1: picky eater, as evidenced by the onion rings, so I'm
Speaker 1: like pretty particular about what I have in my tacos.
Speaker 1: But the style of street tacos is particularly in the
Speaker 1: place like la is just like one of the best
Speaker 1: foods on earth.
Speaker 2: So I got boo this man when this gets posted
Speaker 2: to YouTube, Boo this man on his onion ring take.
Speaker 2: I got it has to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know, like I'm gonna have like gut
Speaker 2: through the rest of this show just to deal with
Speaker 2: that take.
Speaker 5: I don't like onion what's the beef with onion rings?
Speaker 2: It's the idice.
Speaker 1: I don't like onions. I don't like that. So remember,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, I don't have a sense
Speaker 1: of smell, so texture is very important to me. And
Speaker 1: when I bite into an onion, it feels like even
Speaker 1: like a small piece of an onion, like the chopped
Speaker 1: up or whatever. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me,
Speaker 1: Like I just can't see. Is it like the crunchy
Speaker 1: like or I just don't like the texture of onions.
Speaker 1: I don't know what onions and tomatoes are like, the
Speaker 1: two big ones that like, and they're in a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, which is unfortunate. But yeah, that's that's my
Speaker 1: only beef with onion rings.
Speaker 2: Now, it's not unfortunate for you because you're not eating.
Speaker 1: The style of onion rings is great. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know anything fried is awesome, but yeah, the the onion itself.
Speaker 2: Not for me.
Speaker 1: There, you guys have it or Uber Eats Sunday Night
Speaker 1: meals of the week, street tacos for me, the shack
Speaker 1: Dog for Debro, and a chopped salad for fits. Uber
Speaker 1: Eats has the best game day deals all season. Long
Speaker 1: order now for game day, just please leave out the
Speaker 1: onions the list.
Speaker 2: It's making me feel like I need to make healthier
Speaker 2: life choices. I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to a salad. The list of quarterbacks playing
Speaker 1: better than Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert right now is
Speaker 1: quite short, and they are ranked back to back in
Speaker 1: ECR for Week eleven. Who do you like better for
Speaker 1: this Sunday night football matchup? Fits? And I will note
Speaker 1: T Higgins is expected to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be Burrow, Not so much because
Speaker 3: of Higgins, simply because the Chargers will take the air
Speaker 3: out of the ball if they can. It is a
Speaker 3: Greg Roman offense, after all, Whereas Burrow is gonna throw
Speaker 3: and throw a lot his pass attempts the last three
Speaker 3: games thirty seven, thirty nine, and fifty six. So yeah,
Speaker 3: like that's how the Bengals roll, like they are gonna
Speaker 3: fire away on you, and you know, the Chargers kind
Speaker 3: of want to be a little more buttoned down, buttoned
Speaker 3: down with their offense.
Speaker 1: Debro, what do you think I think we might see
Speaker 1: another shootout similar to what we saw from the Bengals
Speaker 1: on Thursday night last week.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a shootout. I definitely go.
Speaker 2: I'm going Burrow. I think he's arguably playing the best
Speaker 2: football of his career right now. I've gonna make QB six.
Speaker 2: I got Herbert a QB eight. I think that the Bengals,
Speaker 2: if they do what we all think they're going to
Speaker 2: do in this game, and they're gonna put up points
Speaker 2: and they're gonna score, and they're going to pass, it's
Speaker 2: going to force the Chargers out of their comfort zone.
Speaker 2: They're not going to be able to They're not going
Speaker 2: to be able to run the ball. I think as
Speaker 2: effectively as a lot of people think that they're going
Speaker 2: to in this one. Cincinnati's run defense has quietly been
Speaker 2: much better since Week five. They're allowing the fifth lowest
Speaker 2: explicive run rate, twelfth lowest misstackle rate, and yards are
Speaker 2: to contact per attempt. So I think that this run
Speaker 2: defense has gotten better, and the matchup itself, Herbert's going
Speaker 2: to have to take to the air man. And this
Speaker 2: is also I'm going to issue my apology letter to
Speaker 2: FITZI here with Will Disley again surprising tight end ones
Speaker 2: for the week. I have Will Disley inside my top
Speaker 2: twelve f.
Speaker 1: It's this quarterback matchup is too good for a salad.
Speaker 1: I know that you are any deed healthier as to
Speaker 1: get older, So who am I to judge your diet?
Speaker 1: But eight Bura Herbert that deserves meat and grease and
Speaker 1: sow it deserves street tacos is really what it is?
Speaker 3: Good chill we have we have eaten meals together where
Speaker 3: you know that I'm not any sort of health food
Speaker 3: not like there's no mistake.
Speaker 1: What do we combine for about nine burgers in Canton
Speaker 1: this year at Georgia's exactly I've seen fits.
Speaker 2: He put down some food, man, Dude, didn't it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's impressive.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Texas at Cowboys Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football to wrap things up on a scale of one
Speaker 1: to ten, Debro, what is your panic level for Ceede
Speaker 1: lamb Fantasy manager's rest of season? After he had twenty
Speaker 1: one yards on ten targets in his first start with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush at quarterback.
Speaker 2: We're going full spinal tap. I'm kicking it up to
Speaker 2: eleven eleven. I did wow, Cooper Rush is terrible and
Speaker 2: there's nothing Trey Lance is not any better? Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've I've had two big conundrums this week about rankings.
Speaker 2: It's where where the heck do I put Drake London?
Speaker 2: And how many wide receivers do I stack above CD Lamb?
Speaker 2: Like right now I've got Ceedee Lamb as wide receiver
Speaker 2: twenty seven. And this is not a Ceedee Lamb problem.
Speaker 2: This is a Cooper Rush problem. And Dallas's offense is
Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to talk about not want to
Speaker 2: start any pass catchers from Chicago or possibly Jacksonville this week.
Speaker 2: I don't want to start anybody from freaking Dallas. Dude,
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush. I mean like he finished last week with
Speaker 2: negative Fantasy points. He did not even cross one hundred
Speaker 2: passing yards. How do we feel any better about Ceede
Speaker 2: Lamb this week? I'm moving forward.
Speaker 1: I can't wide receiver seventeen and ECR debro too high
Speaker 1: to lower.
Speaker 2: It's way too freaking high.
Speaker 1: That's what do you think?
Speaker 3: I've actually got him one spot a higher ed wide
Speaker 3: receiver sixteen, and my panic meter might be broken because
Speaker 3: I'm getting the same five reading that I had for
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. I might have to unplug it and plug
Speaker 3: it back in.
Speaker 2: Did you turn it off?
Speaker 3: We'll turn it back on fancy maybe maybe things are
Speaker 3: going to continue to be bad for Lamb, Like we
Speaker 3: can't rule that out. But and I mentioned this before,
Speaker 3: possibly on the show. When Dak Prescott got hurt early
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty two season and Cooper Rush had
Speaker 3: to make five starts, Lamb averaged six point two catches
Speaker 3: and seventy six yards in those five games. So those
Speaker 3: are good numbers. He had a couple of touchdowns in
Speaker 3: those five games. That's at least a little bit of
Speaker 3: reason to hold out hope for Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 2: I will say that the schedule right now for Dallas
Speaker 2: is horrible, like with Houston and Washington. The next two weeks,
Speaker 2: especially if Lattimore gets healthy, he does open up that
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb probably has much better days. Like I'll be
Speaker 2: ranking him as a wide receiver two in weeks probably
Speaker 2: thirteen through fifteen. They get the Giants, the Bengals, and
Speaker 2: then the Panthers and then the Buccaneers in six week sixteen,
Speaker 2: But do they get the Philadelphia Eagles in week seventeen.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how anybody's going to start him
Speaker 2: in the fantasy championship week.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're about to wrap up, but just
Speaker 1: because you always give me a hard time for not
Speaker 1: doing older movies. I have seen this as Spinal Tap.
Speaker 1: It is good. It is not my favorite of the
Speaker 1: to for guest mockumentaries, It's like probably my third favorite.
Speaker 1: Best In Show is the best one of those, and
Speaker 1: I think A Mighty wind Is is maybe even better
Speaker 1: than the Spinal Tap. They're all very good. I love
Speaker 1: those movies, but I have seen Spinal Tap.
Speaker 2: Did your mom make you watch those movies while she
Speaker 2: was in town? No? She did, nice to be asked.
Speaker 1: No, my best friend in high school growing up was
Speaker 1: very into those Best and Show was the first one
Speaker 1: I saw that movie.
Speaker 2: He was thinking it too, and then.
Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of the other ones from there.
Speaker 1: So if those are great movies, I would strongly recommend
Speaker 1: them if anybody hasn't seen them. And I just wanted
Speaker 1: it on record because of how much you bring up
Speaker 1: the movie stuff I've seen, Fitz. Do you like those movies?
Speaker 2: Your pop culture takes are so bad.
Speaker 5: I do love those movies.
Speaker 3: The mockumentaries are great, but Spinal Taps always going to
Speaker 3: be my favorite. I mean, they just take every heavy
Speaker 3: metal trope and it's so good, skew words so well.
Speaker 1: We started the show talking about rock music and we
Speaker 1: ended up talking about this is spinal tap. That's pretty fitted.
Speaker 1: We're opp up there for Fits and dee Bro. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan warmly thank you everybody for tuning in. Best of
Speaker 1: luck here in week eleven and we'll see again next week.
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