WEBVTT - Lynne Koplitz 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.440 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.920 and see my brand new comedy hour well as Actually 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.360 it's about an hour and a half and I don't 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.959 have an opener because these guys cost money. But what 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.000 I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.520 Come and see me live on the Pants on Fire 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.680 Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.120 we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.960 twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.280 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:35.000 on the road, My DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.440 The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:46.120 interesting people about what brings them happiness. Welcome to the 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.520 Kids Tripper Studios here in Brooklyn, New York. My name 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.720 is Craig Ferguson and I'm your host today on the 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:56.840 Joy Podcast. My guest today is she's got some great 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.000 stories about our mentor, Joan Rivers. I saw her one 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.200 night at the Village Underground in New York, and she 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.720 is as raw and as fantastic a comedian as she 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:15.720 ever was. Please welcome, Lynn, Couplets and Joe. So when 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.520 did you come to New York now, because I always 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.200 thought you were in New York until Saturday night. When 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.920 I saw you Saturday Night and you were saying, I 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.520 have to receive my mom in Florida, I was like, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:24.600 I thought you. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.959 I was born in New York in Long Island, and 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.400 we left when I was like seven or eight, and 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.720 I always came back my dad with my birthdad lived here. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.880 But yeah, I grew up in Saraso. We moved to 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.160 Sarasota when I was about ten. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.360 See now I have to know about because you're you're 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.080 this type of stand up and when I saw you 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.320 do stand up on Saturday Night, right, and I'm like. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.480 Jesus, and I saw you and you're brilliant. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.720 Well, you were brilliant. And here's the thing as well, though, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.680 I was that we were at the Village Underground, which 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:56.920 I had never been to before. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.480 You love it. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.480 Oh my god, that place is great. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.280 It's unbelievable. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.120 And people have been telling me go to the comedy seller, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.920 going to the comedyor go to the Village Undergard, which 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.160 is kind of like it's the same complex, right. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.680 It's the same family, right, And I was like, ah. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.320 Yeah, I've heard about it and is amazing. It's an 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.280 amazing place. How long have you been doing it? 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.880 I mean as long as it's been up, it's been 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.040 like I mean. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.880 I've been hearing about it since I feel like the 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.000 nineties or something. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.880 Well, I've been there. I've been at the Cellar probably 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:32.359 about twenty five years. So when they really started making it, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.119 I want to say it was about thirty years ago 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:39.000 when they started really where they were having big audiences. Yeah, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.720 and then it just grew. So you're part of the 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.919 comedy sellar and then there's like four rooms, five rooms, right, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.080 so it's all I always say. It's like, am I 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.120 performing in the bedroom? The living room? Like or the 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.480 garage or you know like. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.520 That the room office felt like it was a reasonable 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.959 size room. It was like, yeah, has a pretty big room, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.600 but the Sailor itself is smaller. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.320 Much more. But it's like the more prestigious. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.480 Oh those bastards they told me the village underground was prestigious. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.280 But it's very intimate, you know, Like I always say 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.560 that people come to see comedy at the Cellar or 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.079 your die hard they're the same people est he makes 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.639 sun of me. But I'm like, they're the same people 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.560 who go on safaris, like they want to be this 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.760 close to wild animals. Are right, because you know, comics 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.880 were surely a lot. We're not always the nicest and 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.119 people think, oh, I want to be right up front, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.240 and I always say, you don't. You really don't, not 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.440 with all of us, Like these are the best comics 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.640 in the world, and they're they're surly. I mean, they 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.800 could just look at you and think you look mad 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.360 or something and then they're like attack you. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.120 You but that I think that's when I was looking 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.680 at your when I was listening to your act and 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.000 watching your act on on on Saturday, and I was like, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.160 this is not this is not an act though this 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.720 is this is like it is an act because you 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.840 it's stage wark and you're doing it, but you're not pretending, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.640 you know what I mean, It's not you know, at 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.360 least I didn't feel like it. Like when you were 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.280 talking about you know, your boyfriend and and sex and stuff. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 I was like, oh, and he does have bells posy. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:10.760 He really does have Bell's palsy. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.040 Huh, it's almost better. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.720 Yeah, Well I like that you dismiss it because he's 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.799 not here to But did you think he had a stroke, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.280 because that Bell's posy is the thing. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.160 It looks like a stroke. But we knew right away 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:21.919 it was Bell's palusy. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.039 Went to do all right? 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.400 He did to an emergency room. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.200 He smells toast and taste pennies and stuff. If you get. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.920 I always say that. I sometimes I just like if 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.680 the lights blink, I always say, I smell toasts? Is 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.000 my grandma coming? Am? I having a stroke? I see Grandma? 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.839 But no, he didn't. It wasn't. The reason I mean 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.279 about it is because he's he said I gave it 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.040 to him, and then all his friends thought I gave 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.120 him Bell's palsy by stressing him out. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.960 Really, I don't feel like that's how it works, isn't. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:54.760 It doesn't. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.120 Absolutely can't do it. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.920 How do you get? 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.200 It's like a viral thing? 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.480 All right? Oh, maybe you had it in your breath? 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:03.640 Did you have it in your breath? 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.360 Like you're such an idiot. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.960 You don't know? Is it like COVID or something? Can 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.520 you which it may or may not? I looked at it. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.080 You cannot give it to anyone with words or breath 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:14.559 or anything. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.560 Right, Okay, do you it's a viral thing that you 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:22.640 get from what like things like that? Shingling? I've had shingles. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.599 Have you had jingles? No, it's the worst. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.359 They're the worst. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.680 It's it's like it feels like shingles. It sounds like 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.599 it should be nice. Isn't that like on a roof shingles? 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.840 You got shingles. It's delightful. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.680 It sounds like you're right, it's like tingles tingles, but 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:38.520 it's not tingles. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:39.080 It's shingles. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:39.719 It's hideous. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.040 I think hair piece has got the same problem, hair 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.719 piece says, and it's a similar thing. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.080 All kind of going the same categories. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.960 Hair piece sounds like it would be nice, like a 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.559 hair piece. Like a hair piece, Yeah, like a hair piece. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.320 Did your boyfriend have a hairpiece? 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.160 No? Okay, but he got this So anyway, what do 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.440 you ask me? Is my act? 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.680 Well? I felt like I felt like I was watching you. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.560 That it was it was all real life. It was 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.839 very raw. I mean obviously it was you too. Yeah, no, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.960 I do. But that's the kind of stuff I respond 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.120 to me too. I like I do comedy in the 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.919 way that I think it's going to make me laugh, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.840 like or the style that would make me laugh, which 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:25.560 is raw and truthful, you know. But sometimes I watched, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.120 I mean I was watching, I was like, oh my god, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:28.359 I don't know if I could. I don't know if 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.280 I could go that far, like when you were talking 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:30.800 about you, and I. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.120 Know there's other things I want to talk about that 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.080 I haven't approached yet. So it always tackles me when 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.320 somewhere like well you really go on the edge. I'm like, oh, no, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.800 I have other things I want to talk about and 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.040 I haven't touched yet, and I'm just waiting to get 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.720 ready for them. And you know, I what were you 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.120 going to say? 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.440 I'm sorry, no, no, no, I was just saying, it's interesting 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.800 because you know you were talking. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.400 About the telling men to kill themselves. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.400 Well there was that, Yeah, I didn't know. It's like, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.760 I don't know. I mean, you know, in context, and 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.480 it's fine, you know, And it's one of the great 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.119 things that it's one of the things I admire about 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.600 Anthony Jeselneck as well. He says things like this is 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.800 a terrible thing to say, but because he does it 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.000 so skillfully, and you do the same stuff and it's 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.520 like you do it so skillfully that it's not it's 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.960 not a terrible you change it, I. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.000 Mean the center of it. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:24.640 Right. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.840 So I tend to talk about things that make me 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.200 a victim and then I'm the victor. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.160 Right, So you give yourself adversity and then triumph over it. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.640 So it's a feel good type thing. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:42.720 Yeah, Like it's so this middle aged man right dates me, right, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.520 and I tell him, listen, if we're going to be intimate. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.160 What I didn't what I say on stage sometimes, like 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.480 when I do an hour, is that I was celibate 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.000 up until I had been celibate for four years started dating. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.680 I wanted to start over, yeah, me and God. And 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.000 I was like, I'm going to start fresh and for you. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.240 How long until you become a virgin again? It's like. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.280 That's right, right? And no, I mean I even went 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.560 on a few dates and I was very clear, like 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.160 I'm not gonna I'm sorry. It used to be a 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:14.760 bit of a whore dog, but not now. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.560 I just that must be very nice to hear when 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:18.200 you're on a date with. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.560 Crazy and it's over now. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.680 I was really Fromiscus and thanks, but. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.440 I would have done anything. I would have done anything now, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:33.000 no missionary. But I I've been real clear with him. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.440 So to me, what that joke is about, it's about 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.520 a middle aged woman kind of getting duped. Like all 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.920 of a sudden, this middle aged guy is has been saying, yeah, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.240 I want us to be together, we live together a 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.079 little bit is now saying, you know what, I changed 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:50.520 my mind. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.360 He doesn't want to do that anymore. And but he 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.280 but no, in real life, I mean no, no, no. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.120 We're not We're not in real life, we're really not 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.679 together anymore. But we aren't, but we are, Like I'm 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.559 tethered to him, so like I'm going there. We have 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.600 stuff together. We bought house and stuff together. We didn't 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.720 buy a house together, but we we had rented a 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.840 place that all my stuff is in the house and 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.120 his stuff is. It's all mingled. And so I'm staying 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.040 there this summer. He's not gonna be there. He'll be 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.480 in New Hampshire most of the time. He's picking me 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.520 up at the airport tomorrow. Like we're still in each 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:27.160 other's lives. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.240 What does he do what? 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:34.360 He's retired from Verizon Verizon, but yet he worked like 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.559 he was like a cable guy he ran it. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:42.000 I love that you're a built like Jack Verizon or 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.079 whoever is I don't know. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.240 It's is also why when we get in big fights, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.520 I'm like, go back to your small potato life, loseer. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.680 But he's mean too, Like. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.000 So we're has he ever dated a comedian before? 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:00.560 No, dated someone that lives in a city other than Boston. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.400 In Boston is a real city, but I'm talking about 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:05.120 said Boston. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:05.920 It's not a city. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:10.920 It is, but I'm talking not not a city woman, right. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:12.800 Because the women of Boston are. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.199 No, he's not dated women from Boston, right, He's dated 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.760 women who lived in South Boston. Greg, I'm trying not 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:26.360 to say it southy assholes, So you try not to 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:26.680 say it. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.240 I'm like, I don't want to be mean about him, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.880 but I look, I'm sorry for pressing you about it. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.280 What I'm what I mean is this is like I 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.240 am fascinated by comedians that seemed to work out their 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.920 own personal issues on stage, because that is how I 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.640 do it. But what I've noticed is because when I 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.199 was doing that, I used to do that late night too. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.720 I was just like whatever, I watching monologues and stuff 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.120 because you just talked about it right. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.160 But the problem with that is that that people know 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.800 it you you you forget, and then people come over 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.120 and say things like I said something on late night 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.040 years ago and they I don't remember saying it, Like 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:05.840 I know. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:06.480 I have that too. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:07.280 Yeah. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.720 People will tell me tags that aren't I don't ever 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.640 remember saying them. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.360 Yeah, Like they say a punchline to a joke that 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.320 you've never told that I never told remember telling. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.280 It, or they just add something to it that is 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.000 not like they changed it. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.640 But I think people here really want to hear like 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.080 and they changed it in their mind like I. I 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.880 do this too, Like when you know, when uh Leonard 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.480 Nimoy died, I was like, I was talking to my wife, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.320 what yeah, we died, And I was like, oh man, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.920 the original mister spoke. He's so awesome. I wish i'd 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.760 had him on late night and we looked up and 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:50.640 he'd be on twice. There's no recollection. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.040 Well, when I saw you the other night, I'm like, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.240 so one of the one of the people who work 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:01.280 at the cellar goes fred Ferguson, and I got okay, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.320 good for him, and she goes, no, isn't he your friend? 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.480 And I go, Fred Ferguson, Fred Ferguson, I'm gonna know 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.720 who that is. You don't know, Fred Ferguson. I thought 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.959 he was your friend. And I go, no, if I 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.800 knew if if this person was my friend, I connection, Well, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.040 you opened for him, I thought, Fred Ferguson's a comment 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.200 And she goes, yeah. Now I go, what do you 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.600 mean I opened for him? Because you opened for him? 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.600 I thought you guys I worked at comics when he 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.360 was there, and it looked like you guys really liked 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.679 each other. Ago, I don't know who this is. So 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.280 she goes, turn around, He's right here, and turn around. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.680 I go, it's Craig Ferguson. And she goes, oh, what's 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.000 the difference, And I go, the. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.120 Whole person that is? That is to me, there's a difference. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.920 I feel like Fred Craig. You know. I once went 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.120 to a birthday party. It was a surprise birthday party 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.760 someday thrue. It was actually Carrie Fisher threw me a 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.920 birthday party in Los Angeles and it was all like 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.040 celebrities were there and all that, and they got a 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.920 cake and the cake turned up and it said happy birthday. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.640 Crane Kilbourn, Crane Kilbourne. You didn't even get one of 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.880 my names right. And it was the guy who I 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.880 took over from Happy Birthday, Crane Kilbourne. I'm like, for 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.520 fox sake, Carrie went well, I didn't look at the cake. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.600 I just ordered the cake. I just didn't get Craig 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:21.040 at cake. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.240 I was gonna say. I thought if she you know, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.080 she was funny. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.480 Carry, she missed it. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.920 She should have said calm down, Crane, Crane. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.680 She she called me Crane for a long time after that. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.480 You guys would have loved each other. You would have 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:37.080 loved each other. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.920 She was very many people told me, and I think 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.160 people told her because I had so many people tell me. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.360 I can't believe you haven't met Carry Fisher. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.200 I mean it seems odd to me because you would 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.480 have been either you would have been great friends or 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:52.480 deadliest enemies. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.240 No, we would have loved it. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:59.520 Yeah, I think you would have. Hello. This is Craig 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.920 Fergus and I want to let you know I have 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.160 a brand new stand up comedy special out now on YouTube. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.960 It's called I'm So Happy, and I would be so 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.120 happy if you checked it out. To watch the special, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.400 just go to my YouTube channel at the Craig Ferguson show, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.840 and is this right there? Just click it and play 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.560 it and it's free. I can't look. I'm not going 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.880 to come around your house and show you how to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.480 do it. If you can't do it, then you can't 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.200 have it. But if you can figure it out, it's yours, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:30.360 you know. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.200 Joan Rivers was like my mentors. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.160 She was like, I was going to ask because Joan. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.800 There's a whole thing with Joan. I never met Joan Rivers, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:45.200 and she's like my favorite comedian. I honestly think maybe 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.040 my favorite stand up comedian of anyone I've ever seen. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.240 She's for me. She's up there with Richard Pryor, and 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.160 you know, I mean, she's just insane. How did you 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:54.560 guys meet? 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.320 She's a groundbreaker. I was doing a TV show called 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.600 X Rock about a band, and they wanted it was 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.040 on the IFC channel, and they wanted Joan on it. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.520 And I had done the pilot and she watched the 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.120 pilot and said, I'll do it if I can. I 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.280 got to work with that woman, so they said okay, 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.600 and they made her my aunt, which turned out to 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.800 be a nightmare for them because she was playing my aunt, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.400 but she was playing Joan Rivers. It just happened to 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.960 be my aunt. And it was a loosely scripted show. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.280 So we improved a lot. And when I met her, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.720 I walked into her. I was very thin then, and 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.040 I walked in and she said, oh, I've never seen 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.960 the camera take weight off of somebody. And the whole 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.440 room went quiet, and I looked at her and I 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.680 went and started laughing, and she goes, come here, you 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.120 thick skin comic. And she gave me a hug, and 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.280 she said, I always do that to see who I'm 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:50.760 dealing with. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.480 She was and she told joke I've ever heard, which one, well, 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.080 one of the greatest jokes I've ever had was a 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.200 couple but when she was talking, she was on Fashion Police, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.920 and remember Ryan Lockey, this swimmer. Yeah, and you go, like, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.200 terrible trouble. He was getting in a terrible trouble all 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.760 over the place. And she said, she said, Ryan Lockley 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.760 is like my vagina. When it's dry, the magic is gone. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.160 And I went, oh my god. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.680 Well, you know, in her funeral, Howard Sterne told her 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.200 I think one of her best vagina jokes ever was 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.560 that he said Joan Rivers had a very dry vagina. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.160 This was the first words out of his mouth at 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.040 her funeral. It had a very dry vagina. He goes, 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.120 I know this because she told me all the time. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.440 And he said, and she told me once, Howard, my 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.000 vagina is so dry that if Whitney Houston had it, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:47.440 she'd be alive today. Jesus. But my favorite old joke. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.640 That's terrible, but my favorite old joke of hers. It 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.640 was corny. It's corny. People always look at me like 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.640 I'm corny, but I just love the joke. She goes, 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.800 I'm so old when I was when I was a child, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.320 dead Sea was sick. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:02.840 That's a great joke. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.200 It's a great, brilliant and she wrote it, and it's 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:06.600 a brilliant, brilliant joke. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.119 But she was. What's interesting to me, And this is 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.639 the thing I picked up on when I was because 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.400 I see, I remember you were act being The material 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.840 wasn't the same, but your style was similar twenty years ago. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.959 I mean you were still raw, you were still you know, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.800 working like that. And when I was watching a lot 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.760 of the other comics. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.800 I was much more TV friendly. I was much more 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.280 like I want everyone to like me now like that. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.240 I think that's when you're young, you can would rather 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.720 the comics laugh. Well, I think if you're making the 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.280 comics laugh, you're kind of doing something right. I mean, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.680 you're having a definite demographic, and it's probably a very 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.680 dark one because I think comedians. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.000 Don't you think you hit a point like, excuse me 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.560 for interrupting. As an artist, I'm definitely the now I've 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.119 evolved where I'm that art Like when you knew me, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.680 I was the artist that was still willing to paint 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.200 murals in people's houses. Yeah, and now I'm like, what 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.679 they want me to paint the couch green? So in 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.879 Matt is their couch in the picture? Tell them go 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.200 fuck yeah, I'm never doing that. So now that's where 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.119 if someone goes, can you not do that joke, I'm like, no, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:07.960 I can just leave. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.000 Yeah I have to do the joke. I don't know. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.600 I mean, I feel like it gets to a point 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.439 where you you just kind of like, I can't fucking 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.760 make everyone happy. I can't, you know. I mean, my 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:21.840 job is to make people laugh, but not necessarily make 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.240 them happy, you know. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:24.560 And that's a good point. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.760 Yeah, I don't like I don't find this joke offensive, well, okay, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.720 that's good. Or I do find this joke of fans, 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.359 well that's good. But there's a there's a lot of 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.359