Speaker 1: This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come
Speaker 1: and see my brand new comedy hour well as Actually
Speaker 1: it's about an hour and a half and I don't
Speaker 1: have an opener because these guys cost money. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Come and see me live on the Pants on Fire
Speaker 1: Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and
Speaker 1: we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates,
Speaker 1: go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you
Speaker 1: on the road, My DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson.
Speaker 1: The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to
Speaker 1: interesting people about what brings them happiness. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Kids Tripper Studios here in Brooklyn, New York. My name
Speaker 1: is Craig Ferguson and I'm your host today on the
Speaker 1: Joy Podcast. My guest today is she's got some great
Speaker 1: stories about our mentor, Joan Rivers. I saw her one
Speaker 1: night at the Village Underground in New York, and she
Speaker 1: is as raw and as fantastic a comedian as she
Speaker 1: ever was. Please welcome, Lynn, Couplets and Joe. So when
Speaker 1: did you come to New York now, because I always
Speaker 1: thought you were in New York until Saturday night. When
Speaker 1: I saw you Saturday Night and you were saying, I
Speaker 1: have to receive my mom in Florida, I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought you.
Speaker 2: I was born in New York in Long Island, and
Speaker 2: we left when I was like seven or eight, and
Speaker 2: I always came back my dad with my birthdad lived here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I grew up in Saraso. We moved to
Speaker 2: Sarasota when I was about ten.
Speaker 1: See now I have to know about because you're you're
Speaker 1: this type of stand up and when I saw you
Speaker 1: do stand up on Saturday Night, right, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Jesus, and I saw you and you're brilliant.
Speaker 1: Well, you were brilliant. And here's the thing as well, though,
Speaker 1: I was that we were at the Village Underground, which
Speaker 1: I had never been to before.
Speaker 2: You love it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that place is great.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And people have been telling me go to the comedy seller,
Speaker 1: going to the comedyor go to the Village Undergard, which
Speaker 1: is kind of like it's the same complex, right.
Speaker 2: It's the same family, right, And I was like, ah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard about it and is amazing. It's an
Speaker 1: amazing place. How long have you been doing it?
Speaker 2: I mean as long as it's been up, it's been
Speaker 2: like I mean.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about it since I feel like the
Speaker 1: nineties or something.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been there. I've been at the Cellar probably
Speaker 2: about twenty five years. So when they really started making it,
Speaker 2: I want to say it was about thirty years ago
Speaker 2: when they started really where they were having big audiences. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it just grew. So you're part of the
Speaker 2: comedy sellar and then there's like four rooms, five rooms, right,
Speaker 2: so it's all I always say. It's like, am I
Speaker 2: performing in the bedroom? The living room? Like or the
Speaker 2: garage or you know like.
Speaker 1: That the room office felt like it was a reasonable
Speaker 1: size room. It was like, yeah, has a pretty big room,
Speaker 1: but the Sailor itself is smaller.
Speaker 2: Much more. But it's like the more prestigious.
Speaker 1: Oh those bastards they told me the village underground was prestigious.
Speaker 2: But it's very intimate, you know, Like I always say
Speaker 2: that people come to see comedy at the Cellar or
Speaker 2: your die hard they're the same people est he makes
Speaker 2: sun of me. But I'm like, they're the same people
Speaker 2: who go on safaris, like they want to be this
Speaker 2: close to wild animals. Are right, because you know, comics
Speaker 2: were surely a lot. We're not always the nicest and
Speaker 2: people think, oh, I want to be right up front,
Speaker 2: and I always say, you don't. You really don't, not
Speaker 2: with all of us, Like these are the best comics
Speaker 2: in the world, and they're they're surly. I mean, they
Speaker 2: could just look at you and think you look mad
Speaker 2: or something and then they're like attack you.
Speaker 1: You but that I think that's when I was looking
Speaker 1: at your when I was listening to your act and
Speaker 1: watching your act on on on Saturday, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not this is not an act though this
Speaker 1: is this is like it is an act because you
Speaker 1: it's stage wark and you're doing it, but you're not pretending,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not you know, at
Speaker 1: least I didn't feel like it. Like when you were
Speaker 1: talking about you know, your boyfriend and and sex and stuff.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, and he does have bells posy.
Speaker 1: He really does have Bell's palsy.
Speaker 2: Huh, it's almost better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I like that you dismiss it because he's
Speaker 1: not here to But did you think he had a stroke,
Speaker 1: because that Bell's posy is the thing.
Speaker 2: It looks like a stroke. But we knew right away
Speaker 2: it was Bell's palusy.
Speaker 1: Went to do all right?
Speaker 2: He did to an emergency room.
Speaker 1: He smells toast and taste pennies and stuff. If you get.
Speaker 2: I always say that. I sometimes I just like if
Speaker 2: the lights blink, I always say, I smell toasts? Is
Speaker 2: my grandma coming? Am? I having a stroke? I see Grandma?
Speaker 2: But no, he didn't. It wasn't. The reason I mean
Speaker 2: about it is because he's he said I gave it
Speaker 2: to him, and then all his friends thought I gave
Speaker 2: him Bell's palsy by stressing him out.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't feel like that's how it works, isn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: Absolutely can't do it.
Speaker 1: How do you get?
Speaker 2: It's like a viral thing?
Speaker 1: All right? Oh, maybe you had it in your breath?
Speaker 1: Did you have it in your breath?
Speaker 2: Like you're such an idiot.
Speaker 1: You don't know? Is it like COVID or something? Can
Speaker 1: you which it may or may not? I looked at it.
Speaker 2: You cannot give it to anyone with words or breath
Speaker 2: or anything.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, do you it's a viral thing that you
Speaker 1: get from what like things like that? Shingling? I've had shingles.
Speaker 1: Have you had jingles? No, it's the worst.
Speaker 2: They're the worst.
Speaker 1: It's it's like it feels like shingles. It sounds like
Speaker 1: it should be nice. Isn't that like on a roof shingles?
Speaker 1: You got shingles. It's delightful.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're right, it's like tingles tingles, but
Speaker 2: it's not tingles.
Speaker 1: It's shingles.
Speaker 2: It's hideous.
Speaker 1: I think hair piece has got the same problem, hair
Speaker 1: piece says, and it's a similar thing.
Speaker 2: All kind of going the same categories.
Speaker 1: Hair piece sounds like it would be nice, like a
Speaker 1: hair piece. Like a hair piece, Yeah, like a hair piece.
Speaker 1: Did your boyfriend have a hairpiece?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, but he got this So anyway, what do
Speaker 2: you ask me? Is my act?
Speaker 1: Well? I felt like I felt like I was watching you.
Speaker 1: That it was it was all real life. It was
Speaker 1: very raw. I mean obviously it was you too. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I do. But that's the kind of stuff I respond
Speaker 1: to me too. I like I do comedy in the
Speaker 1: way that I think it's going to make me laugh,
Speaker 1: like or the style that would make me laugh, which
Speaker 1: is raw and truthful, you know. But sometimes I watched,
Speaker 1: I mean I was watching, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I could go that far, like when you were talking
Speaker 1: about you, and I.
Speaker 2: Know there's other things I want to talk about that
Speaker 2: I haven't approached yet. So it always tackles me when
Speaker 2: somewhere like well you really go on the edge. I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I have other things I want to talk about and
Speaker 2: I haven't touched yet, and I'm just waiting to get
Speaker 2: ready for them. And you know, I what were you
Speaker 2: going to say?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, I was just saying, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you know you were talking.
Speaker 2: About the telling men to kill themselves.
Speaker 1: Well there was that, Yeah, I didn't know. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, in context, and
Speaker 1: it's fine, you know, And it's one of the great
Speaker 1: things that it's one of the things I admire about
Speaker 1: Anthony Jeselneck as well. He says things like this is
Speaker 1: a terrible thing to say, but because he does it
Speaker 1: so skillfully, and you do the same stuff and it's
Speaker 1: like you do it so skillfully that it's not it's
Speaker 1: not a terrible you change it, I.
Speaker 2: Mean the center of it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I tend to talk about things that make me
Speaker 2: a victim and then I'm the victor.
Speaker 1: Right, So you give yourself adversity and then triumph over it.
Speaker 1: So it's a feel good type thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's so this middle aged man right dates me, right,
Speaker 2: and I tell him, listen, if we're going to be intimate.
Speaker 2: What I didn't what I say on stage sometimes, like
Speaker 2: when I do an hour, is that I was celibate
Speaker 2: up until I had been celibate for four years started dating.
Speaker 2: I wanted to start over, yeah, me and God. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to start fresh and for you.
Speaker 1: How long until you become a virgin again? It's like.
Speaker 2: That's right, right? And no, I mean I even went
Speaker 2: on a few dates and I was very clear, like
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm sorry. It used to be a
Speaker 2: bit of a whore dog, but not now.
Speaker 1: I just that must be very nice to hear when
Speaker 1: you're on a date with.
Speaker 2: Crazy and it's over now.
Speaker 1: I was really Fromiscus and thanks, but.
Speaker 2: I would have done anything. I would have done anything now,
Speaker 2: no missionary. But I I've been real clear with him.
Speaker 2: So to me, what that joke is about, it's about
Speaker 2: a middle aged woman kind of getting duped. Like all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this middle aged guy is has been saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want us to be together, we live together a
Speaker 2: little bit is now saying, you know what, I changed
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to do that anymore. And but he
Speaker 1: but no, in real life, I mean no, no, no.
Speaker 2: We're not We're not in real life, we're really not
Speaker 2: together anymore. But we aren't, but we are, Like I'm
Speaker 2: tethered to him, so like I'm going there. We have
Speaker 2: stuff together. We bought house and stuff together. We didn't
Speaker 2: buy a house together, but we we had rented a
Speaker 2: place that all my stuff is in the house and
Speaker 2: his stuff is. It's all mingled. And so I'm staying
Speaker 2: there this summer. He's not gonna be there. He'll be
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire most of the time. He's picking me
Speaker 2: up at the airport tomorrow. Like we're still in each
Speaker 2: other's lives.
Speaker 1: What does he do what?
Speaker 2: He's retired from Verizon Verizon, but yet he worked like
Speaker 2: he was like a cable guy he ran it.
Speaker 1: I love that you're a built like Jack Verizon or
Speaker 1: whoever is I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's is also why when we get in big fights,
Speaker 2: I'm like, go back to your small potato life, loseer.
Speaker 2: But he's mean too, Like.
Speaker 1: So we're has he ever dated a comedian before?
Speaker 2: No, dated someone that lives in a city other than Boston.
Speaker 2: In Boston is a real city, but I'm talking about
Speaker 2: said Boston.
Speaker 1: It's not a city.
Speaker 2: It is, but I'm talking not not a city woman, right.
Speaker 1: Because the women of Boston are.
Speaker 2: No, he's not dated women from Boston, right, He's dated
Speaker 2: women who lived in South Boston. Greg, I'm trying not
Speaker 2: to say it southy assholes, So you try not to
Speaker 2: say it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be mean about him,
Speaker 1: but I look, I'm sorry for pressing you about it.
Speaker 1: What I'm what I mean is this is like I
Speaker 1: am fascinated by comedians that seemed to work out their
Speaker 1: own personal issues on stage, because that is how I
Speaker 1: do it. But what I've noticed is because when I
Speaker 1: was doing that, I used to do that late night too.
Speaker 2: I was just like whatever, I watching monologues and stuff
Speaker 2: because you just talked about it right.
Speaker 1: But the problem with that is that that people know
Speaker 1: it you you you forget, and then people come over
Speaker 1: and say things like I said something on late night
Speaker 1: years ago and they I don't remember saying it, Like
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I have that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: People will tell me tags that aren't I don't ever
Speaker 2: remember saying them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they say a punchline to a joke that
Speaker 1: you've never told that I never told remember telling.
Speaker 2: It, or they just add something to it that is
Speaker 2: not like they changed it.
Speaker 1: But I think people here really want to hear like
Speaker 1: and they changed it in their mind like I. I
Speaker 1: do this too, Like when you know, when uh Leonard
Speaker 1: Nimoy died, I was like, I was talking to my wife,
Speaker 1: what yeah, we died, And I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: the original mister spoke. He's so awesome. I wish i'd
Speaker 1: had him on late night and we looked up and
Speaker 1: he'd be on twice. There's no recollection.
Speaker 2: Well, when I saw you the other night, I'm like,
Speaker 2: so one of the one of the people who work
Speaker 2: at the cellar goes fred Ferguson, and I got okay,
Speaker 2: good for him, and she goes, no, isn't he your friend?
Speaker 2: And I go, Fred Ferguson, Fred Ferguson, I'm gonna know
Speaker 2: who that is. You don't know, Fred Ferguson. I thought
Speaker 2: he was your friend. And I go, no, if I
Speaker 2: knew if if this person was my friend, I connection, Well,
Speaker 2: you opened for him, I thought, Fred Ferguson's a comment
Speaker 2: And she goes, yeah. Now I go, what do you
Speaker 2: mean I opened for him? Because you opened for him?
Speaker 2: I thought you guys I worked at comics when he
Speaker 2: was there, and it looked like you guys really liked
Speaker 2: each other. Ago, I don't know who this is. So
Speaker 2: she goes, turn around, He's right here, and turn around.
Speaker 2: I go, it's Craig Ferguson. And she goes, oh, what's
Speaker 2: the difference, And I go, the.
Speaker 1: Whole person that is? That is to me, there's a difference.
Speaker 1: I feel like Fred Craig. You know. I once went
Speaker 1: to a birthday party. It was a surprise birthday party
Speaker 1: someday thrue. It was actually Carrie Fisher threw me a
Speaker 1: birthday party in Los Angeles and it was all like
Speaker 1: celebrities were there and all that, and they got a
Speaker 1: cake and the cake turned up and it said happy birthday.
Speaker 1: Crane Kilbourn, Crane Kilbourne. You didn't even get one of
Speaker 1: my names right. And it was the guy who I
Speaker 1: took over from Happy Birthday, Crane Kilbourne. I'm like, for
Speaker 1: fox sake, Carrie went well, I didn't look at the cake.
Speaker 1: I just ordered the cake. I just didn't get Craig
Speaker 1: at cake.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I thought if she you know,
Speaker 2: she was funny.
Speaker 1: Carry, she missed it.
Speaker 2: She should have said calm down, Crane, Crane.
Speaker 1: She she called me Crane for a long time after that.
Speaker 1: You guys would have loved each other. You would have
Speaker 1: loved each other.
Speaker 2: She was very many people told me, and I think
Speaker 2: people told her because I had so many people tell me.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you haven't met Carry Fisher.
Speaker 1: I mean it seems odd to me because you would
Speaker 1: have been either you would have been great friends or
Speaker 1: deadliest enemies.
Speaker 2: No, we would have loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would have. Hello. This is Craig
Speaker 1: Fergus and I want to let you know I have
Speaker 1: a brand new stand up comedy special out now on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's called I'm So Happy, and I would be so
Speaker 1: happy if you checked it out. To watch the special,
Speaker 1: just go to my YouTube channel at the Craig Ferguson show,
Speaker 1: and is this right there? Just click it and play
Speaker 1: it and it's free. I can't look. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to come around your house and show you how to
Speaker 1: do it. If you can't do it, then you can't
Speaker 1: have it. But if you can figure it out, it's yours,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Joan Rivers was like my mentors.
Speaker 1: She was like, I was going to ask because Joan.
Speaker 1: There's a whole thing with Joan. I never met Joan Rivers,
Speaker 1: and she's like my favorite comedian. I honestly think maybe
Speaker 1: my favorite stand up comedian of anyone I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: She's for me. She's up there with Richard Pryor, and
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she's just insane. How did you
Speaker 1: guys meet?
Speaker 2: She's a groundbreaker. I was doing a TV show called
Speaker 2: X Rock about a band, and they wanted it was
Speaker 2: on the IFC channel, and they wanted Joan on it.
Speaker 2: And I had done the pilot and she watched the
Speaker 2: pilot and said, I'll do it if I can. I
Speaker 2: got to work with that woman, so they said okay,
Speaker 2: and they made her my aunt, which turned out to
Speaker 2: be a nightmare for them because she was playing my aunt,
Speaker 2: but she was playing Joan Rivers. It just happened to
Speaker 2: be my aunt. And it was a loosely scripted show.
Speaker 2: So we improved a lot. And when I met her,
Speaker 2: I walked into her. I was very thin then, and
Speaker 2: I walked in and she said, oh, I've never seen
Speaker 2: the camera take weight off of somebody. And the whole
Speaker 2: room went quiet, and I looked at her and I
Speaker 2: went and started laughing, and she goes, come here, you
Speaker 2: thick skin comic. And she gave me a hug, and
Speaker 2: she said, I always do that to see who I'm
Speaker 2: dealing with.
Speaker 1: She was and she told joke I've ever heard, which one, well,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest jokes I've ever had was a
Speaker 1: couple but when she was talking, she was on Fashion Police,
Speaker 1: and remember Ryan Lockey, this swimmer. Yeah, and you go, like,
Speaker 1: terrible trouble. He was getting in a terrible trouble all
Speaker 1: over the place. And she said, she said, Ryan Lockley
Speaker 1: is like my vagina. When it's dry, the magic is gone.
Speaker 1: And I went, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in her funeral, Howard Sterne told her
Speaker 2: I think one of her best vagina jokes ever was
Speaker 2: that he said Joan Rivers had a very dry vagina.
Speaker 2: This was the first words out of his mouth at
Speaker 2: her funeral. It had a very dry vagina. He goes,
Speaker 2: I know this because she told me all the time.
Speaker 2: And he said, and she told me once, Howard, my
Speaker 2: vagina is so dry that if Whitney Houston had it,
Speaker 2: she'd be alive today. Jesus. But my favorite old joke.
Speaker 2: That's terrible, but my favorite old joke of hers. It
Speaker 2: was corny. It's corny. People always look at me like
Speaker 2: I'm corny, but I just love the joke. She goes,
Speaker 2: I'm so old when I was when I was a child,
Speaker 2: dead Sea was sick.
Speaker 1: That's a great joke.
Speaker 2: It's a great, brilliant and she wrote it, and it's
Speaker 2: a brilliant, brilliant joke.
Speaker 1: But she was. What's interesting to me, And this is
Speaker 1: the thing I picked up on when I was because
Speaker 1: I see, I remember you were act being The material
Speaker 1: wasn't the same, but your style was similar twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean you were still raw, you were still you know,
Speaker 1: working like that. And when I was watching a lot
Speaker 1: of the other comics.
Speaker 2: I was much more TV friendly. I was much more
Speaker 2: like I want everyone to like me now like that.
Speaker 1: I think that's when you're young, you can would rather
Speaker 1: the comics laugh. Well, I think if you're making the
Speaker 1: comics laugh, you're kind of doing something right. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're having a definite demographic, and it's probably a very
Speaker 1: dark one because I think comedians.
Speaker 2: Don't you think you hit a point like, excuse me
Speaker 2: for interrupting. As an artist, I'm definitely the now I've
Speaker 2: evolved where I'm that art Like when you knew me,
Speaker 2: I was the artist that was still willing to paint
Speaker 2: murals in people's houses. Yeah, and now I'm like, what
Speaker 2: they want me to paint the couch green? So in
Speaker 2: Matt is their couch in the picture? Tell them go
Speaker 2: fuck yeah, I'm never doing that. So now that's where
Speaker 2: if someone goes, can you not do that joke, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I can just leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah I have to do the joke. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it gets to a point
Speaker 1: where you you just kind of like, I can't fucking
Speaker 1: make everyone happy. I can't, you know. I mean, my
Speaker 1: job is to make people laugh, but not necessarily make
Speaker 1: them happy, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like I don't find this joke offensive, well, okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. Or I do find this joke of fans,
Speaker 1: well that's good. But there's a there's a lot of
Speaker 1: talk recently about you can't say this, and you can't
Speaker 1: say that, or you get into trouble, and now it's
Speaker 1: like it's always been like that.
Speaker 2: But my point is is Joan had a rule, and
Speaker 2: I think about it all the time. She said, talk
Speaker 2: about whatever you want, just make sure it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's the thing. Undeniably undeniably funny
Speaker 1: is right, because there there is that. But there's now
Speaker 1: the situation. Well, I don't know if there was a
Speaker 1: little moment there where certain things you weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: even I felt like you weren't even meant to talk about.
Speaker 2: But you're talking about throwing your kid in the pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: And I was screaming, laughing. It's so funny. And it's
Speaker 2: how when we were kids, that's how you learned to sway.
Speaker 1: You're lucky.
Speaker 2: If you got thrown in, usually just got kissed. Someone
Speaker 2: drinking a beer shoved you with their front.
Speaker 1: Didn't make it. But you know, we got a flutter.
Speaker 2: But but you know, even when you said it the
Speaker 2: other night, I could I could see people going, oh,
Speaker 2: why did you? But they're just sensitive now, I think so,
Speaker 2: But I think they you made it funny immediately.
Speaker 1: Right, And I think that the thing is as well
Speaker 1: as that. I think people go, particularly places like the
Speaker 1: sailor the Village Underground, all that stuff. I think people
Speaker 1: go there with the expectation that I am going to
Speaker 1: be tested by you know, I'm going to hear stuff
Speaker 1: that I don't want to hear, and that's part of
Speaker 1: the fun. I think it's been folded into to it
Speaker 1: that now you like you. I think that's okay. I
Speaker 1: think to feel that sense of danger like you mentioned
Speaker 1: A tale. A Tale's always been one of my favorite
Speaker 1: comics in mind because I watched David Tail. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: think I don't know Dave. I can't go God damn it.
Speaker 1: He made me laugh again. I mean, he's and David Tel.
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny because I'm not usually a fan
Speaker 2: of comics that I don't know something about. At the
Speaker 2: end of their act, I can. I can appreciate that
Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfeld is a master. He does an observational comedy.
Speaker 2: He's one of the very best, but I don't enjoy
Speaker 2: watching him. His comedy, his TV shows and stuff. I love.
Speaker 2: He's a great writer, but it's just not my cup
Speaker 2: of tea. Ellen is the same way. Ellen degenerous, but
Speaker 2: that Boston style of comedy where they're like, and then
Speaker 2: I killed the guy, Like I never find that funny.
Speaker 2: You didn't do it.
Speaker 1: You didn't kill the guy, you know. And that's the
Speaker 1: difference between Boston and New York comedy. Then in New
Speaker 1: York you have to actually have killed the guy.
Speaker 2: If you say I killed the guy, he might have
Speaker 2: killed that guy. Like there's some opinion, there's you know,
Speaker 2: you think when you're watching me, she might have actually
Speaker 2: told this guy to kill himself.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought you might have.
Speaker 2: I would be very sad if he killed himself. But
Speaker 2: that's where I push it, you know, it's it's you
Speaker 2: know how it is. You do it too. It's where fantasy, right, you.
Speaker 1: Mess around with it, you mess around with it, with
Speaker 1: the reality of it. That's all right. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: called a poetic license.
Speaker 2: I suppose for me, it's always believable my situation, Like
Speaker 2: I have a joke where I'm talking about young feminists,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to see I did it because they
Speaker 2: traditionally have been annoying me a lot. So I thought,
Speaker 2: I wonder if I can talk about them and still
Speaker 2: win them, because young women love me right, And I
Speaker 2: think it's because I tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Well, I told you you were doing credit work with
Speaker 1: a couple of girls in the front row. The young
Speaker 1: women in the front row.
Speaker 2: No matter what I say, Greg, they never hate me.
Speaker 1: They were great. They loved you.
Speaker 2: We love you, we love you, and I'm like, shut up,
Speaker 2: I don't want your love. We love you so much.
Speaker 2: They're like little puppies. But I think it's because there's
Speaker 2: an auntie quality to me, like she's telling us the truth.
Speaker 2: She's on our side, she's going to protect us. And
Speaker 2: so my whole joke is about do you want me
Speaker 2: to tell you? It's just about the feminism thing. Where
Speaker 2: I go, there is a young if you haven't met
Speaker 2: young New York feminists yet, they're very they're not like
Speaker 2: the old school feminists. They're very like right in your
Speaker 2: face and growley. And I said, some one jumps in
Speaker 2: front of me with a clipboard recently and she's like,
Speaker 2: what have you done for women? Today, and I go, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to punch you in the throat, so
Speaker 2: that's one thing. And then I do this whole thing
Speaker 2: about getting behind this young girl because I know my
Speaker 2: days of free drinks and having doors held open are
Speaker 2: very long gone. But I'm like, this young fertile girl
Speaker 2: is going in the bank where the doors are heavy.
Speaker 2: My arms are not what they were, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get behind her like a like a
Speaker 2: little car getting behind a big semi in a stom.
Speaker 2: This bitch is gonna save my life. So I get
Speaker 2: behind her and she stops. This is true story. This
Speaker 2: is based on a true story. She stops cold, and
Speaker 2: she says to the guy holding the door, I can
Speaker 2: get my own door, thank you very much. And I've
Speaker 2: never seen it. Have you seen in real life?
Speaker 1: It's happened to me. Really, it's happened to me. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about it in a minuse.
Speaker 2: So I go, well, I can't excuse me. Part of
Speaker 2: me I kind of walk past. So then I go
Speaker 2: I'm telling this joke true story again at the cellar
Speaker 2: at the little room, and a girl in the front
Speaker 2: road goes yes, and I go, you know what what
Speaker 2: what are you yesing? And she goes, she told him,
Speaker 2: She told him we can get our own doors, and
Speaker 2: we can buy our own food, and we don't need
Speaker 2: men trying to take our power. And I turned to her,
Speaker 2: and now I say, the audience, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: No one can take your fucking power. You got to
Speaker 2: give it to him. Nat usually gets an a pause
Speaker 2: break and I go, you girls are not looking at
Speaker 2: this the right way. The way I see it is
Speaker 2: they owe me that, they owe me holding the door,
Speaker 2: buying me dinner. I go, you know why, because we've
Speaker 2: been blowing these guys for centuries. I am kneeling on
Speaker 2: the shoulders of my ancestors. Somewhere in my line, someone
Speaker 2: in my family probably sucked the deck of some guy
Speaker 2: coming back from World War One with tick her tape
Speaker 2: on it. I go, then, I'm sure, I'm sure I
Speaker 2: have some pilgrim ancestor. So that I was like, when
Speaker 2: I'm done churning this butter, and Ezekiel gets home, I
Speaker 2: got to breathe out of my nose for four minutes,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm sure I've got some cave woman
Speaker 2: relative that was justugh And he pokes on the shoulder
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, so you owe me reparations, and
Speaker 2: I talk about my boyfriend and all that, but it
Speaker 2: kills with the girls and it starts me not being
Speaker 2: nice to them. But like you said, then I empower them.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting to words you work because it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that you mentioned Joan, because I
Speaker 1: got that kind of like style vibe from you as well.
Speaker 1: Like the the idea is like I will I will
Speaker 1: go with people, you know, I will make fun of somebody,
Speaker 1: I will have a go with someone, but it's always
Speaker 1: really me who I'm going at, which is very smart
Speaker 1: and and and how it works. I think. As far
Speaker 1: as the holding the door open thing that happened to
Speaker 1: me in in La, it was as a gay at
Speaker 1: the school on one of my kids was young and
Speaker 1: I held the gate open for one of the moms
Speaker 1: in the school and she was pretty angry. Maybe she
Speaker 1: was a tough day. Everybody's tired, they have little kids.
Speaker 1: But she won't buy me, I don't need you to
Speaker 1: hold hold the door open for me, And kind of
Speaker 1: like I was like, I didn't know to open for you.
Speaker 1: I held open for my mom. You were just there.
Speaker 2: You should have just that. That's how you get hit.
Speaker 2: You know, I probably have five across the time.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's funny though, because the the idea,
Speaker 1: and you've touched on this and and I'm interested in this,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Allen as well, because Ellen get into
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble because it turns out she's not
Speaker 1: as nice in real life as she is on TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know her, well, I've met a couple. You
Speaker 1: seemed very nice to me. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was meeting her on a TV show. I've got
Speaker 1: certainly no Allen stories. But but what I was kind
Speaker 1: of fascinated by is that people and people will say
Speaker 1: this about anyone, Like if you meet anyone famous, anyone
Speaker 1: at all, they say they were they nice. Like like, now,
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't need Jimmy Page to be nice. I don't need.
Speaker 1: I don't even need he plays a guitar. Let him
Speaker 1: play the guitar. If he's not nice, I don't fucking care.
Speaker 2: You have to be super talented to not be nice.
Speaker 1: To know it be nice, I suppose you do, actually,
Speaker 1: because I think that that seems to be the thing
Speaker 1: that most people want is for you to be nice,
Speaker 1: and I the truth says, I'm nice sometime. A lot
Speaker 1: of the time I think I'm nice, and sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: probably a deck I know I am.
Speaker 2: So for me, one story about a celebrity does not
Speaker 2: make them who they are, right, Like if someone tells me,
Speaker 2: I think for.
Speaker 1: A lot of people it does, though, amazing, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it shouldn't because everybody's a person. Yeah, So yes,
Speaker 2: you're allowed. You're allowed to even react to her, yeah
Speaker 2: and say, oh, well next time, I definitely won't, you
Speaker 2: know whatever, because maybe you're having a bad day and
Speaker 2: you're trying to be nice and she was a jerk
Speaker 2: about it. I'm not saying you should be like that,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying that, but that doesn't define who you are.
Speaker 2: So I was just about to say to you about Ellen.
Speaker 2: I've heard that she can be prickly, but I don't
Speaker 2: know her, so I reserve that, like I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I've said to people, I'm not going to judge this
Speaker 2: person because I don't know. Now, there are other celebrities
Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh, yeah, he's an asshole, but I
Speaker 2: know him asshole, and I would tell him to his
Speaker 2: face he's an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's it's a weird thing. I
Speaker 1: remember I was once changing planes at Danver. You know,
Speaker 1: I have Danver like you do road work, you know, Denver.
Speaker 2: Airport I got stuck, the only one I ever got
Speaker 2: stuck at.
Speaker 1: I hate Denver Airport so much. Do you know if
Speaker 1: you see it from the guy, it kind of looks
Speaker 1: like a swastika as well.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: And the people at the airport have you ever noticed this?
Speaker 2: They're so crazy, like there's no like sides of the
Speaker 2: street walking like everyone looks. Everyone looks s frazzled, like
Speaker 2: they're racing to a sail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's weird. It's like Black Friday every day
Speaker 1: and and well not Black Friday.
Speaker 2: It is a swastika.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's like black uniform, Brady. But they I
Speaker 1: was getting off while I was changing planes or something
Speaker 1: at Denver Airport and I bumped to this guy from Africa.
Speaker 1: That was my fault. And this African guy but me
Speaker 1: and he's wearing the full like all the African gear
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I bumped into I was kind of embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I stumbled a little bit and he went to help me.
Speaker 1: He was a younger guy, and he went to help
Speaker 1: me with my case because I was kind of falling
Speaker 1: over a little bit. And I was like, ah, I
Speaker 1: fell that. I was tired. I was a jerk and
Speaker 1: he said, he went, I'm helping you with your case.
Speaker 1: What a jerk? And I was like, oh no, and
Speaker 1: I started walking away and I thought, good, I am
Speaker 1: a jerk. And I was looking around. I was trying
Speaker 1: to find him to apologize for being a jerk, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't find him. So I think probably he watches
Speaker 1: this podcast and I and now he'll know that. No,
Speaker 1: he won't because he'll think I'm a jerk and like,
Speaker 1: I'm not watch.
Speaker 2: You'll know you're doing it. He's not want to listen.
Speaker 1: No, he'll hate me. But it's just this. He didn't
Speaker 1: know who I was. He was just he just thought
Speaker 1: I was a jerk in Denver airport. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I for that moment, I fucking was a jerk in
Speaker 1: Denver airport.
Speaker 2: But he might have known. That's the weird part about
Speaker 2: TV and stuff. Because I was nice to a lady
Speaker 2: in the airport one time. She had a kid who
Speaker 2: was screaming, and you know some mothers have that they
Speaker 2: get that look like this is the day. I'm leaving
Speaker 2: the kid in the airport and I saw the show
Speaker 2: and she was frazzled and she had like an infant
Speaker 2: and a little three year old that was going ape
Speaker 2: shit crazy. And I had dog toys in my purse
Speaker 2: for my dog, so I was going home and I
Speaker 2: just went it squeezed the ball and the little three
Speaker 2: year old turned and came walking over and I threw
Speaker 2: the ball and the kid came back. And I just
Speaker 2: played with a kid with this dog ball heaven.
Speaker 1: And the mother said in the airport with.
Speaker 2: A kid, how are you doing this? Not who are you?
Speaker 2: But how are you doing this? And I said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm not a mom. She because you must be a mom,
Speaker 2: and I said, no, I own a dog. But you
Speaker 2: know how old is your kids? It was almost three,
Speaker 2: and I said, yes, aren't they kind.
Speaker 1: Of the second?
Speaker 2: And anyway, I played with the kid and I said
Speaker 2: on the floor and the mom said, don't you have like, no,
Speaker 2: I have an hour. And I was just nice to
Speaker 2: this little kid and I said, do you want to
Speaker 2: go somewhere? Do you want me to watch them? And
Speaker 2: do you have to pee or anything? Seriously, like the
Speaker 2: look on her face. Craig was like, no. Well, next
Speaker 2: thing I know, I get a call from my manager
Speaker 2: like a week later, and I gave the little you know,
Speaker 2: screaming one the dog toy and it really was a
Speaker 2: dog toy. That's what's so embarrassing. But my manager said, Lynn,
Speaker 2: you know we have Google alerts on you. I want
Speaker 2: you to read something. And the woman knew who I was.
Speaker 2: You recognize me from TV with Johan and said this
Speaker 2: woman was one of the nicest women. And when I
Speaker 2: was so flustered, but it was it was really sweet.
Speaker 2: But it made me go, oh shit. And then I
Speaker 2: when I was with DV, I had other ones that
Speaker 2: were like I saw lannekpless today fighting with her boyfriend,
Speaker 2: And now most of them are like, I think I
Speaker 2: saw you crying in the park. That's what people.
Speaker 1: But it's funny though, because I think now everybody it
Speaker 1: used to be like if you were kind of if
Speaker 1: you were famous, you were you were in that that
Speaker 1: kind of position. But no, that was very passive aggressive,
Speaker 1: passive aggressive, you know. It was like yeah, right right, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I still think it was passive aggressive. But it
Speaker 1: used to be just like famous people would get that,
Speaker 1: like you walk around and like you do something dumb
Speaker 1: and get shamed. But now I think anyone, because everyone
Speaker 1: has a camera and everyone has you know, Instagram and
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, that anyone who does
Speaker 1: something dumb, there's the opportunity to go viral and and
Speaker 1: be shamed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why I like people film it, film it,
Speaker 2: go ahead. I don't care, but I'm not you. You're famous,
Speaker 2: You're famous. I'm now. I have to always say to myself,
Speaker 2: don't get mad at Heckler's. You're talking to them, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they feel comfortable with you, yeah, and they feel
Speaker 2: like you want them to be part of this. So
Speaker 2: once in a while I'll say, okay, we you and
Speaker 2: I are done. Now I'm going to go back to
Speaker 2: my own show, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you've run into it as well. It's
Speaker 1: like when you see people that have expectations of how
Speaker 1: you know that it's going to go and it's not
Speaker 1: going that way. I've done it. Look, I've done it myself.
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch did you watch Game of Thrones?
Speaker 2: I love your Yeah, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Right? So Game of Thrones, I got a call from, uh.
Speaker 2: Did they shoot in Scotland?
Speaker 1: Ireland?
Speaker 2: Ireland?
Speaker 1: Vibe was in California, and I get this call or
Speaker 1: they asked me to host the Game of Thrones panel
Speaker 1: at Comic Con in San Diego. I was like, sure,
Speaker 1: I love Game of Thrones. I'd never seen it, but
Speaker 1: I but I but then I watched all of it
Speaker 1: before I did it, like it was all a DVDs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I watched it all and
Speaker 1: I get to the backstage at Comic Con.
Speaker 2: And then you were psyched on two right.
Speaker 1: It was great. I love that show. And uh, and
Speaker 1: I'm backstage at Comic Con and all the Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones people was there, and the actor who played Jamie Lanister,
Speaker 1: you know, the super handsome he walked in and I went,
Speaker 1: oh hey, and I hugged him. I have so many
Speaker 1: of those. And I thought, I thought I knew because
Speaker 1: I've just been watching him on TV. And I but
Speaker 1: over and I hugged him. And then I hugged him
Speaker 1: and I felt and kind of like tense, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I've never met this guy. And
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, I, I've never met you in
Speaker 1: my life. Have a and he went, no, he's very
Speaker 1: you know you were of course maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he yeah, he did. But he was like, of course.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm so sorry, and he said it happens
Speaker 1: more often than you would think. It's all right. And
Speaker 1: he was very, very good.
Speaker 2: So he was nice.
Speaker 1: He was nice. And that's the thing I have to
Speaker 1: tell you. But the actor whose name I will in
Speaker 1: sat later on. You know that guy? He what's his name? Dude?
Speaker 1: Can you He played Jamie and he's a fabulous actor.
Speaker 1: It's just his name escapes me for the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Nichol, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he was lovely. He was just lovely.
Speaker 2: But there was another one that wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, they were all pretty nice, yeeah, they don't. I
Speaker 1: I was the stalker, is what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: the good Do you ever mean, do you ever go
Speaker 1: up to famous people you think you know and and
Speaker 1: start talking to him? But you realize when I.
Speaker 2: First moved to New York, and I wasn't even yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't on TV or a comic or anything. I
Speaker 2: was an aspiring young actress. I used to get on
Speaker 2: I'd get on the subway and I would talk to
Speaker 2: soap stars all the time, thinking I knew them, and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, Hi, how you doing, and and
Speaker 2: they would usually say oh hi, and think the world
Speaker 2: and they would think maybe I know her, you know,
Speaker 2: and then go so, Dixie, you know, it's good to
Speaker 2: see you. You'd go, yeah, something, it's the character. And
Speaker 2: then I'd go with Dixie, Oh my god, you know,
Speaker 2: and I would usually be really And one time, when
Speaker 2: I was young, people would sometimes say I looked a
Speaker 2: little bit like Cindy Crawford. Anyone watching this now, I
Speaker 2: do not look anything like her.
Speaker 1: No, I feel like you did.
Speaker 2: And when I was younger, I might have a little
Speaker 2: tiny bit. And one day I saw Steven Spielberg on
Speaker 2: the street and he was wearing an ambulin hat.
Speaker 1: And carry some people would.
Speaker 2: Reganize he saw me and he went hey, And I
Speaker 2: was right by Ford modeling ages. He had every right
Speaker 2: in the world to think it was me. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was her, And he went hey, and I go hi,
Speaker 2: and we're crossing the street, and I thought, I wonder
Speaker 2: how long it's going to take for him to realize
Speaker 2: he doesn't know me? Yeah, well, right as we got close,
Speaker 2: he went like to look in his face, Craig like,
Speaker 2: I can't even whatever. I just I just called it
Speaker 2: on like whatever happens now? I started and I went
Speaker 2: it's okay, and he goes thank you, and he just
Speaker 2: walked away. And I actually thought that was kind of
Speaker 2: sweet of him because he just thank you.
Speaker 1: Steve Spielberger, and I have to report he is nice.
Speaker 2: He was very sweet. But he was very sweet to me,
Speaker 2: like thank you so much, like he realized like she
Speaker 2: she's nice.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was cute, but it was really funny because he
Speaker 2: started it like can you imagine?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've I've done it, and do you
Speaker 1: Sometimes people say hey, how you doing, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to be rude, but they don't know you, so
Speaker 1: you're like, hey. That's why in La now everybody says
Speaker 1: nice to see you instead of nice to meet you,
Speaker 1: or you never say nice to meet you to someone.
Speaker 1: You'll say nice to see you, because nice to see
Speaker 1: you can be nice to meet you or it can
Speaker 1: be nice.
Speaker 2: To That's why in the South everyone says hey. They
Speaker 2: just tell hey, hey, because hey, it just means like
Speaker 2: I might know you all the Guys are always called guy, Hey, guy, hey, guy.
Speaker 1: Oh I've been called that. I realized that that.
Speaker 2: Usually means I don't know your name.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But women, I always call a guy handsome if I
Speaker 2: don't remember his name. Oh, hey, good looking.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you can't do that for your guy because
Speaker 1: he'll be creepy.
Speaker 2: You just to call the woman skinny, Hey, skinny, hey, skinny, hey, pretty.
Speaker 2: We don't hear anything else, all right, unless it's the
Speaker 2: woman you hold the door for, and then she's like,
Speaker 2: I can be fat if I want to be.
Speaker 1: Well, see when I didn't make any comment to this
Speaker 1: woman at all when I held the gate for her,
Speaker 1: I just just I didn't mean anything by it. I
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't trying to oppress her. I just kind of
Speaker 1: didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: You weren't thinking I'm going to take her power. I
Speaker 2: haven't new talk about walking down the street and the
Speaker 2: guy goes smile. I bet you'd be a lot prettier
Speaker 2: I go. Now. I don't know about you, girls, but
Speaker 2: I love a command from a strange man, and I
Speaker 2: don't know an emotional command. I always find that really nice.
Speaker 1: Is that does that really still happen? I mean all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: It just happened recently. No smile, you be a lot
Speaker 2: prettier if you did.
Speaker 1: No one ever says that, and I went like that,
Speaker 1: I did that. That's kind of nice.
Speaker 2: Are you were? You right?
Speaker 1: I can't believe that still happens.
Speaker 2: Geez, it does, and it's hilarious to me. It's a
Speaker 2: good way to get yourself, Like I've even said on stage,
Speaker 2: like I'm like, please put an end to this misery
Speaker 2: of a career, like, go ahead, cancel me. Then I'm done,
Speaker 2: because you can't get fired from stand up.
Speaker 1: You can't do you know, I know it's likely that
Speaker 1: some people that go canceled actually started doing stand up.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like if you get canceled from being an actress something, well,
Speaker 1: I'll go and do stand up and go, oh so
Speaker 1: it's all right to be a stand up well like.
Speaker 2: Or they'll do this with me, like they'll go ha
Speaker 2: ha oh boo, and I go listen, No, you really
Speaker 2: want to not see me do this anymore? Just don't
Speaker 2: make a noise. Just let's all sit and stare at
Speaker 2: each other and then I can just be done, like
Speaker 2: please please. I never should have gotten as far as
Speaker 2: I've gotten. It's been a long while. And remember one
Speaker 2: time we were in the little room and I was
Speaker 2: telling jokes and there was silence from the men like
Speaker 2: I was saying something, and all the men looked pissed.
Speaker 2: They were all kind of sitting. It was before I
Speaker 2: was as nuanced to comment because I am now. The
Speaker 2: women liked me. They were laughing, but the men were
Speaker 2: very And I came off stage and I said to
Speaker 2: Jim Norton goes, great set, and I go, oh, god, no,
Speaker 2: the men hate me. And he goes, they're not asleep.
Speaker 2: And I said what And he goes, if they hate you,
Speaker 2: it's just as good as loving you. They're awake and
Speaker 2: they're listening. They can't get mad at you if they're
Speaker 2: not listening to you.
Speaker 1: That's smart.
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, you're right. Yeah, and in what
Speaker 2: we were talking about the truth and I know you
Speaker 2: have to go. But I one time I was doing
Speaker 2: stand up maybe fifteen, no twenty years ago, and everything
Speaker 2: was changing. I was getting older and my jokes weren't
Speaker 2: working for me because I was getting older. It wasn't
Speaker 2: I looked like Sidney Crawford. Blah blah blah blah, none
Speaker 2: of it was working, and I was I put on
Speaker 2: weight again. I always go up and down, and I
Speaker 2: had had I had these horrible like leggings on with
Speaker 2: a big shot. I was in Kansas and I thought,
Speaker 2: I said a little prayer and I said, God, what,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do? Like, I just feel
Speaker 2: like a fraud. And link Kopplice doesn't do well when
Speaker 2: she feels like a fraud. And I said, okay, and
Speaker 2: I heard it was the first time I heard God
Speaker 2: say tell the truth. So I walked out on stage
Speaker 2: and I said, this is what you look like when
Speaker 2: you start giving up. I'm not even doing comedy anymore.
Speaker 2: This is more of an unraveling. And then I started
Speaker 2: and Jim Norton saw me again and he goes, real smart,
Speaker 2: what you did? And I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: And he goes, you don't even have to do stand up.
Speaker 2: If they don't laugh at you, who cares. You told
Speaker 2: them up front you're not doing that. You're not here
Speaker 2: for that. And then eventually I changed it to people
Speaker 2: ask me if I'm from Michigan, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: this is what you look like when you give up.
Speaker 1: Right, It's the same law which is a well crafted joke.
Speaker 2: Well I turned them into jokes.
Speaker 1: But it's always you're the victim. You're the victim who
Speaker 1: becomes the victor, victim who becomes the victim.
Speaker 2: That's right, right, that's what you look like when you
Speaker 2: start giving up. But you know what, I don't even care.
Speaker 2: I'm here to get fired. I'm just trying to get
Speaker 2: this stuff out. Take what you like, leave what you don't,
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's wild. But at this point
Speaker 2: in my life, I'm pretty blessed to be able to
Speaker 2: still be. I mean, I'm not famous, but I'm a
Speaker 2: bit of a journeyman. I'm still doing it.
Speaker 1: I think you know, the people that know about comedy
Speaker 1: and love comedy know exactly who you are. And I
Speaker 1: are always happy to see you in the States. Not
Speaker 1: afine one of that. It's a joy to see you. Thanks.
Speaker 2: I got nervous to say hi to your because I
Speaker 2: was like, what if he doesn't remember me? Like that's
Speaker 2: who we all are. We're neurotic weirdos. That's true. And
Speaker 2: then you were your beautiful, effusive, lovely self. So keep in.
Speaker 1: Touch with try to be nice. I will keep in
Speaker 1: touch with you.
Speaker 2: Get out of here yet, Okay