1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Okay, folks, not to be dramatic, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: but this really is the episode that even our producers 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: were hesitant to do because it involves breaking an oath 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: sworn by those who joined Greek life. We are lifting 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: the veil on the most mysterious part of joining a sorority, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: which has never been discussed publicly until now. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about initiation, the transition from pledge to sorority sister, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: a process that has been kept top secret for well 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: over a century. This bonding ritual is so steeped in tradition, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: generations of pledges have been sworn to secrecy, but today 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: those secrets are coming out. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: The following guests agreed to reveal what really happens during initiation, 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: provided they remain completely anonymous, to the point where we 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: as hosts couldn't speak to them directly. That is how 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: sacred this pact for sisterhoods around there is. The voices 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: you are about to hear have been altered, the identities blurred, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: but the stories are one hundred percent authentic. This is 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: what every sorority in America doesn't want you to know. 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: So initiation is definitely one of those things in sorority 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: life that is that people are more apprehensive to talk about. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: I feel like because it's so ritual based and it's 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: so individual to the sorority, people are super secretive about it. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: And there's definitely details that I feel protective over. But 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: it's hard to explain why. I think just because it's 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: so individual to your sorority and like that is your 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: entrance to all of it, and it feels so sacred. 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: But there definitely are some things that I am willing 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: to share. I think mostly it's just kind of a blur. Essentially, 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: you go to the house in different shifts of time 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: and am my sorority. I think there were three different 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: shifts of time, so there were three different groups of 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: girls that went to the house, and you're all kind 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: of shuttled into this room where you are supposed to 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: change into these robe gown things, and you don't really 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: know what's about to happen, so there's a lot of 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: anticipation and there's a lot of speculation beforehand between girls 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 4: about what's going to happen, and people would like to 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 4: think they know self or spread rumors about things that 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: are going to happen that are scary or whatever, but 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: really none. If it's scary, it's just unknown. And the 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: older girls come in once you're ready, And what happened 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: for us is they just took us room to room, 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: but you're supposed to close your eyes in between each room, 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: which I thought was really interesting, probably to just keep 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: that element of surprise alive. But everybody's like covering their 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: eyes and holding hands. I'm walking in the line and 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: it feels so silly. And then in room that we 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: ended up in within the house, there was a ritual 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: to be performed or something that was read and kind 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: of just took you through like all of the all 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: of these different ceremonies that represented the virtues of the 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: sorority or the most important symbols and things like that. 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: And there was one room in particular where you instructed 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: to drink something. And I won't give the name of 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: it away because I feel like it would give the 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: name of my sorority away pretty easily. But you're instructed 59 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: to drink something, and I have a lot of food allergies, 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: so I was really apprehensive, and I was like, huh, 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: like no, I'm going to pass, Like what's in this? 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: And they're like, we can't tell you. It's a secret 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: and you just have to drink it. And I was 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: like no, like I have a lot of allergies, Like 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: can you just tell me what's in it? And they 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't tell me what was in it, and they were like, 67 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: we think it will be fine, like it's stuff that 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: people would not typically be allergic to it, and I, 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: looking back, should have just stood up for myself more. 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: But I ended up drinking it and I was allergic 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: to the juice that was in it. 72 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: It wasn't alcohol or anything. 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: Bad like that. 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: It was just this weird mixture of some sort of 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: juice that I was allergic to. 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 7: To this day, I. 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 5: Don't even know what was in it. They wouldn't tell me. 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 7: But I did end up having. 79 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: To leave Initiation early because I drank this juice and 80 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: I needed to go find a benadroll. So that was 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: my experience with Initiation. I got through a few of 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: the rituals, but I actually never completed the entire thing. 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: So it was interesting in the following years to be 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: an older girl who was leading initiation and to see 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: the other parts of it fully come together, because when 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: I was initiated, I didn't get to like fully experience 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: the whole thing through. One other thing that I loved 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: that they did that I thought was just the sweetest 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: part of it all was at the end, when you 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: went back into that original room that you were in, 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: rechanged into your robes and everything. They had slipped these 92 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: letters from older girls into our bags. So we all 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: left not like really knowing anything. But then later on 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: throughout the day, people started realizing that these letters from 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: older girls had been slipped into our bags, and it 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: was so fun to read just the words of encouragement 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: for college and the words of advice for soaking it 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: all in and like really enjoying your years and your sorority, 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: and everybody had. 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: Such a sweet sentiment. 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: So I thought that that was a really sweet part 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 4: of initiation as well. 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 8: Okay, so when it was like mid day and we 104 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 8: got into our sororities and we're all so excited, and 105 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 8: I think, like when I was going through your rush, 106 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 8: it was like right before like the Bama Rush stuff, 107 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 8: and it got like huge, so but it was still 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 8: like I didn't know much about it. Whatever got my 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 8: bid and I was all excited and then like the 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 8: next day we're getting all of our information like okay, 111 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 8: initiation is in three weeks. And then so I think 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 8: for initiation we were kind of like, oh what is this? 113 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 8: And like you always like hear things, especially as a freshman, 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 8: and you don't really know like anything about sorority stuff, 115 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 8: Like you hear like these crazy like core stories that 116 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 8: are like they do blah blah blah, like they call 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 8: you fat like whatever, and so like that was always 118 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 8: something that we were scared about or like just like 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 8: any freshman would be that doesn't know anything about rush. 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 8: And then so I think it was three weeks later 121 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 8: we went through we had like meetings that we would 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 8: go in and they would talk about the sorority and 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 8: all the history of the sorority. 124 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: And then our. 125 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 8: Initiation day and the night before we got a text 126 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 8: and was like show up in nude underwear and in 127 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 8: new bra and white socks. So we were like, Okay, 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 8: this is really creepy, Like are we gonna be naked? 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 8: Like that's really weird. So anyway, we like we're all 130 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 8: kind of like thinking like what is about to happen. 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 8: We have to be all in nude underwear. This is weird. 132 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 8: Then we ended up going we like had blindfolds. They 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 8: like blindfolded us, and someone like brought us like held 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 8: our backs and like walked us to We were somewhere 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 8: like in the school, but it was like this random, 136 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 8: like big huge room with nothing in it. We had 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 8: blindfolds on, and then they like brought us up and 138 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 8: there was a curtain. We were like on a stage, 139 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 8: but the curtain was closed, and then they're like, okay, 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 8: you can take your blindfolds. Us change into this and 141 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 8: it was like this like white sack and it was 142 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 8: like so weird. And then we had like to tie 143 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 8: like a when then we had a rope to tie 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 8: around us and it was like just creepy. And then 145 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 8: we put blindfolds back on and then they let us 146 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 8: down like these stairs, and then we like walk into 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 8: a room that people are like humming and it's really 148 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 8: creepy and colty, and then like we all they lead 149 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 8: us into our circle and then they're like okay, singing 150 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 8: all these like weird chants and singing songs whatever, and 151 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 8: they're like okay, you can take off your blindfolds now, 152 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 8: and so we would take off her blindfolds and then 153 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 8: some people would like turn around and it would be 154 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 8: someone that they're like their relative, their mom, their sister 155 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 8: that was in the same sorority as them, and to 156 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 8: like they surprised them. They turned around and it was like, Oh, 157 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 8: my gosh, your mom's here, and that was like really cute. 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 8: And then one of my friends turned around and her 159 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 8: sister was there, and I don't know if it was 160 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 8: like just like we were so anxious and like her 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 8: seeing her sister as a surprise, but she just like 162 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 8: fainted and so that kind of like a damper on 163 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 8: the whole initiation process. So then the ambulance came. 164 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 7: They checked her out. 165 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 8: And she ended up being fine. But then we just 166 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 8: went right back to chanting our weird songs and singing, 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 8: and then we got like our pins and that was 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 8: about it. 169 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 9: I remember initiation is a little bit of a blur 170 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 9: because it happened in the morning after, you know, freshman year. 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 9: I never really took a Saturday night easy, and our 172 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 9: initiation was on a Sunday morning, and I remember not 173 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 9: just me, but me and a bunch of my sorority 174 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 9: sisters had gone out the night before, and we were 175 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 9: just like scrambling to get to the house on time. 176 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 9: I remember, particularly my freshman year, the seniors were really 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 9: mean to us. 178 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: They just were. 179 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 9: Really just like on a high horse and just like 180 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 9: a power trip. And I remember them screaming at us 181 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 9: in the group chat, being like, if you are late 182 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 9: to your initiation time, you are being dropped from the sorority. 183 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 9: And so it was a really big deal that we 184 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 9: get there on time. And I remember me and my 185 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 9: friends down the hall in my dorm, who were also 186 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 9: my sorority. We all woke up late to like for 187 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 9: our initiation that was that morning, and it's a Sunday morning, 188 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 9: and we're all scrambling. We're ordering an uber to the 189 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 9: sorty house that's only just like across campus. Usually you 190 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 9: would walk, and we all scramble and get there on time. 191 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 9: But then we realized that they told us that we 192 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 9: need to memorize these so I'm going to stop myself. 193 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 9: The thing about initiation is that it's really even all easyars. 194 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 5: Later something that's very sacred to sorority. 195 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 9: And I was in a sorority that was just like 196 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 9: really prioritize tradition, so it was it's it's hard to 197 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 9: like reveal certain aspects, but I can say that we 198 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 9: did have these like ceremonial songs that we would all sing, 199 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 9: and it was a big especially to our sorority. We 200 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 9: really really like had to sing the songs. And they 201 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 9: had assigned us the songs prior to initiation, and we 202 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 9: were supposed to, like part of our initiation, learn these songs. 203 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 9: And you know, sometimes when you're hungover and you're just 204 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 9: still think you're still drunk, and I remember like being 205 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 9: put into robes to start the initiation. We're blindful did 206 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 9: crossing from room to room, and not only did I 207 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 9: not memorize the song that we were supposed to sing, 208 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 9: but none of us like remember the song that we 209 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 9: were supposed to sing. And we were being blindfolded and 210 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 9: walked from one room to the next, and I just 211 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 9: start cracking up. And then soon enough, like everyone in 212 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 9: the line walking to the next room, everyone is just 213 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 9: dying laughing. And these seniors that took our sorority very 214 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 9: seriously just were so pissed and they were like, you 215 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 9: guys are being so disrespectful. 216 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: You can't believe you didn't learn the. 217 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 9: Song, and we heard all about it on Chapter that 218 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 9: Monday morning. But in the moment we everyone just started 219 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 9: laughing and they didn't really know what to do with themselves. 220 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: So soon enough, like we. 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 9: Quieted the laughs and went on to the next room 222 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 9: and carried on with the ceremony. 223 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,479 Speaker 5: But needless to say. 224 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 9: Our pledge class was then dubbed the worst PC ever 225 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 9: because when we came to Chapter that Monday morning, they 226 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 9: literally told us, you guys are the worst pledge class 227 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 9: we've ever had. We've never had people not know the 228 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 9: song nevertheless erupt in laughter while trying attempting to sing 229 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 9: the song, and we continued on that reputation. We all 230 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 9: got very close our pledge class, but we definitely really 231 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 9: pushed the envelope in terms of what was allowed in 232 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 9: when we all lived in the house and just moving on. 233 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 9: But we were all very close, And yeah, that's what 234 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 9: I remember about initiation. 235 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 5: I also remember just being very hungover and not wanting 236 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: to go. So that's all I can really say. 237 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 10: Initiation is like it's the one part of the sorority 238 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 10: that I'm probably the most secretive about, like the most 239 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 10: sort of protective about, And I. 240 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 11: Don't really know why. 241 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 10: I don't really know much about other initiations, so I 242 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 10: feel like other people are really secretive about it too. 243 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 10: Maybe it's the one thing that feels sacred. I don't 244 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 10: know if that's a weird way to describe it. There's 245 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 10: a few things I am willing to say, but of 246 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 10: all the things, like rush, I would give secrets living 247 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 10: in the sorority, Like I would never tell somebody my password, 248 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 10: the door knock, the handshake unless they were another member 249 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 10: of that sorority. Like even right now, I don't even 250 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 10: want to say what school I went to or what 251 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 10: sorority I was in, because I am going to say 252 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 10: a few things about initiation because I think there is 253 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 10: a lot of curiosity, And like I said, I know 254 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 10: a lot of things about Greek life, and I don't 255 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 10: know anything about other people's initiations, especially the boys. 256 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 11: I don't know anything about about what they do. So 257 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 11: here's what I will say. 258 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 10: At the time when I was initiated, and I have 259 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 10: only vague memories of it, and I think that's also 260 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 10: because it's very early in the morning and you're kind 261 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 10: of tired, so and I only remember being initiated. 262 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 11: I have some vague memories of that, and I remember 263 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 11: doing initiation like once. I can't I'm sure I did 264 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 11: it a few other times. 265 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 10: So what I will say is I didn't live at 266 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 10: the house at the time in the sorority. I live 267 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 10: somewhere else, but I remember we spent the night in 268 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 10: the sorority, so I think you go you sleep in 269 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 10: other girls' rooms. This is all my vague memories, and 270 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 10: I can remember. I think my big sister wakes you 271 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 10: up very early, and you put on what they refer 272 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 10: to as a robe, but like we're not talking like 273 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 10: a Barefoot Dreams robe, Like this isn't like a cozy 274 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 10: like robe that has like coffee mugs on it. Like 275 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 10: it was like almost like a cap and gown type robe, 276 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 10: no cap, so I would call it a gown. And 277 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 10: I have a vague memory. 278 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 11: Of a belt that was like a cord. I don't 279 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 11: want to say rope because that makes it sound scary, 280 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 11: but I think. 281 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 10: It was like you tied the robe or the gown 282 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 10: so that you could like walk around. And I kind 283 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 10: of remember, like it was very early now if I 284 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 10: was blindfolded, I also don't totally remember. They might have 285 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 10: just said close your eyes I don't really like being blindfolded, 286 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 10: so I might have said, like, I promise, I'll close 287 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 10: my eyes, just don't blindfold me. And they kind of 288 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 10: like walk you around the house and you don't really 289 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 10: know where you are and you don't really know what's happening. 290 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 10: The part I will reveal is I went into this 291 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 10: room and I kind of knew what room I was 292 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 10: going into. The room was all red, and I look 293 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 10: up and I kind of remember being on my knees, 294 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 10: not in a weird way that sounds like inappropriate. 295 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 11: It's not like that, you're just kind of like sitting 296 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 11: but kneeling. 297 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 12: I don't know. 298 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 11: And I look up and my mom was in the room. 299 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 10: Now, to give you context, my mom was in the 300 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 10: same sorority as me at the same school, so she 301 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 10: never told me, but obviously somehow she figured it out 302 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 10: or they call her. She calls and she knows what 303 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 10: time to be there, and she's got like a I 304 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 10: kind of remember her with like a book and she's 305 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 10: reading something. Now I'm not going to call it a 306 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 10: prayer because it wasn't a prayer, but it was like 307 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 10: she's reading something. Now you're completely like bewildered or whatever 308 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 10: the word is, like, because you're so early and you're like, 309 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 10: what's happening that I cannot remember anything she said because 310 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 10: I'm like. 311 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 11: My mom's in here. 312 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 10: And then I do remember going back out and one 313 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 10: of my really really good friends saying, like, dude, your 314 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 10: mom was in there, like so I can remember that, 315 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 10: and it was all red and my mom was wearing 316 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 10: either the same thing I was wearing, or like, I 317 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 10: don't know, maybe a slightly different version. And then it 318 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 10: goes on and on, and then I can remember going 319 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 10: into a big room and I think my big sister 320 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 10: was there and my mom and there was sort of 321 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 10: like a. 322 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 11: Ceremony and my mom was involved in it. And I 323 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 11: think they give you something. 324 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 10: I don't want to reveal what, because again I'm being like, 325 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 10: this is the one thing that I'm. 326 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 11: Kind of a bit more secretive about. She gives me something. 327 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 10: I'll call it a piece of jewelry, and it was 328 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 10: hers that she then gave to me. 329 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 11: I actually think she did trust me at the time 330 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 11: and took it back. I think she still has it. 331 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 11: I definitely don't have. 332 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 10: It, and I can remember, like the only other part 333 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 10: I will reveal is I had no idea what a 334 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 10: palm frawn was, and definitely through sorority life, I learned 335 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 10: I now know what a palm prawn was, So there 336 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 10: are definitely palm frons involved. And then I think it 337 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 10: was like a breakfast. Then it kind of gets normal 338 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 10: after sort of this ceremony. Then it's just like any 339 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 10: old other sort of sorority party. So that's the part 340 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 10: that I feel comfortable sharing. I definitely was on the 341 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 10: other side of initiation one or two times. 342 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 11: I also think this is the other thing. 343 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 10: I think it's kind of a pain in the ass 344 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 10: go to lie, Like I think it's a lot of 345 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 10: work to do. So I kind of remember seniors sort 346 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 10: of tapping out, like being like, I'm not doing initiation. 347 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 10: So that is the top top most secret things I 348 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 10: am willing to reveal, and I'm very curious to hear 349 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 10: what other people have to say. 350 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 7: Okay, so for my initiation, I remember like always hearing 351 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: about fraternity initiations, but never really swarty initiations. I feel 352 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 7: like for fraternities it's usually like the end of their 353 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 7: pledge ship and like it's at the end of the semester, 354 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 7: end of the year, depending on the school and so 355 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 7: I feel like it was always like a big deal 356 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 7: for fraternity men to get initiated because it kind of 357 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 7: meant like they were at the end of all their 358 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 7: pledging and everything, so it was like a big deal 359 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 7: for them. But I never had really heard much about 360 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: Swarty initiation, So for me, I remember leading up to initiation, 361 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 7: the only thing we ever had to do was it 362 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 7: was like dressing up. So once we had to dress 363 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 7: up and like a nice outfit. It wasn't like anything 364 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 7: like really specific, but I remember just couldn't be like 365 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 7: workout clothes or jeans. Actually I think jeans were allowed, 366 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: but you just had to dress up and look nice. 367 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 7: But we got initiated with only like two months into 368 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 7: the year, so it wasn't that long. But I always 369 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 7: remember that leading up and like girls being really nervous 370 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 7: if they didn't dress up, Not that anything would have happened, 371 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 7: but we were all like nervous about what could happen 372 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 7: if we didn't dress up, and if we would get 373 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 7: in trouble or whatnot. I remember the day of initiation 374 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: was the Sunday after a huge football game at my school, 375 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: so I remember everyone honestly just kind of dreading it 376 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 7: like obviously it's a big deal to get initiated because 377 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 7: you're like finally into your swarty and like it's all 378 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 7: real and sealed. But I just remember everyone being really 379 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 7: hungover and having a really early start time, so no 380 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 7: one was really that excited about it. You also had 381 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 7: to get to the house really early and stay even 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 7: if your group was like at the very end. So 383 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 7: I remember just my group being at the very end, 384 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 7: but I remember being at the end, and then finally 385 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 7: it was my turn to go, and I remember they 386 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 7: made a mess up with my big because I had 387 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 7: a really close friend in my swarty and they thought 388 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 7: she was my big the entire time leading up to it, 389 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: I guess, so my Big wasn't there to get me 390 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 7: initiated because they didn't tell her to be there for 391 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 7: that time because they didn't know I was in the group. 392 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 7: So a random person initiated me, which was like a 393 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 7: bummer because it was always supposed to be a big 394 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 7: and that was kind of the whole like special part 395 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 7: of it. So I remember being really weirded out about that, 396 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 7: but it was fine. I was somebody didn't know, but 397 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 7: it was nothing crazy. I remember getting blindfolded and we 398 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 7: had to wear ritual whites. We had to be in 399 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: a white dress, and we had to wear socks with 400 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 7: no logos, which is so random, not thinking about it. 401 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 7: And then you couldn't have makeup on, so you had 402 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 7: to be in your ritual whites with socks and no makeup. 403 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 7: And then you would put on a robe in a blindfold, 404 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 7: but you would get like walked into this room and 405 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 7: it was dark, and then you'd have to like kneel 406 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 7: down on a pillow, and then I just remember them 407 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 7: really just reading something to me. The whole time. 408 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 6: They were just reading, and then they'd like walk you 409 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 6: in a circle, and I think they like tapped on 410 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 6: her head or something. But then we like did a 411 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: lot of standing up and then kneeling down on the pillow, 412 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 6: but it wasn't that much standing up. But later on, 413 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: after all this was over, I remember hearing that once 414 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 6: I left the house and everything, one of the girls 415 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 6: in a different group passed out during initiation because I 416 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 6: guess her knees locked, which thinking back, I'm like, we 417 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 6: weren't even standing for that long, so I don't really 418 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: know how that would have happened. But they had to 419 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: like stop that whole group, and obviously everyone's blind folds 420 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 6: came off, so I just can't even like imagine what 421 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 6: that group was like. But I remember her knees locked 422 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 6: and she passed out, so they had to like stop 423 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 6: the whole thing, which is just wild. But she was fine, 424 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 6: Like I think she was just dehydrated, probably because of 425 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 6: the day before was a big party day with game 426 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: day and everything, and everyone was exhausted, so I think 427 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: her knees just locked and passed out. But yeah, definitely 428 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 6: not great. I do remember I was actually in charge 429 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 6: or like assisting to being in charge of like ritual 430 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 6: the following year, when I was a sophomore, I was 431 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: like the assistant ritual person and so pretty much the 432 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 6: initiation was my only job, and I actually got a 433 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 6: work opportunity, so I left that weekend, and my sorority 434 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: was really strict on excuses from all the rituals and 435 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: especial initiation, so I was like the only person allowed 436 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 6: to not go, which was really ironic because it was 437 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: literally my only job. But I remember all of my 438 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 6: friends being pissed because they all had to go and 439 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: sit there for like ten hours all day while I 440 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 6: was not even in town and it was like my 441 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 6: only job. So yeah, I remember that also, So I 442 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: never actually was on the other side of initiation because 443 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 6: then we would always get excused from it when we 444 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 6: were older, just because they wouldn't need juniors and seniors there. 445 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 6: So I never really got to see it from the outside. 446 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 6: But I feel like because we got to take our 447 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 6: blindfolds off, like at the very end of it. 448 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 12: I like knew what it was. 449 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think. 450 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 12: That's my initiation story. 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 13: So basically there's not much that I can necessarily recall 452 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 13: from initiation. I feel like for me, at least, my sorority, 453 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 13: which I will not disclose, is very sort of known 454 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 13: to be like the Chill Sorority sort of the more 455 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 13: like Granola Sorority almost, And I think with that, like 456 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 13: all of our rituals that we do are so unplanned 457 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 13: or last minute done. And so I remember, at least 458 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 13: when I was a freshman getting initiated, I had no 459 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 13: idea what was going on, obviously because you are freshman 460 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 13: and you're not supposed to know. But then once I 461 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 13: was a sophomore, like rehearsing the whole entire little like 462 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 13: ritual in the morning, we all did it so last minute, 463 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 13: and it was so disorganized, and I like had no 464 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 13: idea as a freshman how much of a sort of 465 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 13: like flop it was, because you think it has to 466 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 13: be this like big, sort of rehearsed, you know, elusive, 467 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 13: secretive event, and it really just was not that at all. 468 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 13: I remember like people were laughing when they were singing 469 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 13: like a song. That was one of our parts is 470 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 13: we have to like sing a song. We're all basically 471 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 13: in these robes and we have to sing a song 472 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 13: while these girls are getting initiated, and then we start 473 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 13: having to hum the exact song the whole entire time, 474 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 13: and we're humming for about ten to fifteen minutes. So 475 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 13: that was always very interesting because we would hear so 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 13: many girls just like chuckling and laughing the whole time. 477 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 13: But to set the scene for a freshman or for 478 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 13: a new member that's just getting newly initiated. What was 479 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 13: hard for us was that our initiation always happened to 480 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 13: be the Sunday following Halloween, so it was always Hallowekend, 481 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 13: and it was always that Sunday, so everyone was just 482 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 13: like immensely hungover, but we all come to the house 483 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 13: bright and early in the morning at like eight am, 484 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 13: I believe, and we all have to come in and 485 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 13: they told us to wear a white dress and then 486 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 13: nude undergarments. And it was so strange to me as 487 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 13: a freshman, because I was like, why are these like 488 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 13: girls telling me to wear nude underwear? 489 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 5: What are they gonna do? 490 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 13: Like, are we gonna like undress in front of them 491 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 13: and we need to wear nude? It was like terrifying me. 492 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 13: But we show up to the house and we're in 493 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 13: our white dresses and best believe, I have my nude 494 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 13: undergarments on, and then we go upstairs into like the 495 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 13: girl's rooms. We had this like big room that fit 496 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 13: like ten people, and so we all just changed in 497 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 13: there into these like robes, and so they weren't like 498 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 13: cute little like bath robes necessarily, it was like a 499 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 13: not even we call them robes, but they were more 500 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 13: like togas or it looked like like a bed sheet. 501 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 13: It was just pure white like sheet on us. And 502 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 13: then a chord that we had to tie a specific way, 503 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 13: and none of us really tied it correctly, but it 504 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 13: was like we had to tie the chord to the 505 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 13: left and then once you get initiated, you had to 506 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 13: shift it to the right. And so it made sense 507 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 13: that they had asked us to wear new to undergarments 508 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 13: in kind of a weird way, because I guess they 509 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 13: couldn't disclose, like, yeah, you guys are gonna put on 510 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 13: these little like bed sheets. But made sense because I 511 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 13: did see a girl that had like red lace underwear 512 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 13: and you could very much see that through the little 513 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 13: thin rope, so that was interesting. And there's like parents 514 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 13: there and advisors and everything like that, so it was 515 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 13: funny that she was a little bit exposed. But then 516 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 13: we walked down in line with our bigs, and our 517 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 13: bigs walk us down, and then suddenly we hear everyone 518 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 13: like in a circle. The lights are off in the 519 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 13: chapped room, there's like candles, and they're singing one of 520 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 13: the like songs of our sorority, and it's so it 521 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 13: feels so like mysterious and almost kind of scary or 522 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 13: like something out of like like Scream Queens, the way 523 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 13: they do their like rituals. And so then they start 524 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 13: saying all this random stuff like sort of you know, 525 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 13: devouting yourself as a sister, like reading off of this speech, 526 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 13: and then we all go down and like get on 527 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 13: our knees and we write like on a signature on 528 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 13: this little book, just our name and that we're getting initiated, 529 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 13: and then we do like a little secret handshake with 530 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 13: the girl that is initiating us. So it was all 531 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 13: very funny to me as a freshman, and even as 532 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 13: a sophomore and as a junior too. It was always 533 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 13: so funny to be on the other side as well, 534 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 13: because you're just humming for like ten minutes straight while 535 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 13: you're watching these hungover girls kneel down and sign a 536 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 13: little book, and so it just was so funny because 537 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 13: you just get so tired of it and people are 538 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 13: humming terribly, or people are hungover. I had a friend 539 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 13: who last year was so hungover from Halloweken that she 540 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 13: had to walk out of initiation and then we could 541 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 13: hear her throwing up in the bathroom next door, and 542 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 13: then she just came back and acted like nothing happened 543 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 13: and like our advisors didn't bat and I or anything, 544 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 13: and then just kept singing the song. So yeah, I 545 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 13: think it's super super weird. Sometimes on the bright side, 546 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 13: I think that my sorority all has this sort of 547 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 13: like consensus that it's weird and it's a tradition and 548 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 13: we have to keep it up even though it's kind 549 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 13: of funny, although sometimes maybe we should have taken it 550 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 13: a little bit more seriously. I think we sharpen up 551 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 13: when the advisors are paying attention. But it definitely is 552 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 13: like a very interesting experience. Had you told me I, 553 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 13: like four years ago would be undressing in nude undergarments 554 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 13: and putting on a robe to like kneel in front 555 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 13: of like one hundred and fifty girls, I would be 556 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 13: really confused. But you know, love my sorority, and it's 557 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 13: such a fun experience but very funny moment nonetheless. 558 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: And that was only the beginning. If you thought that 559 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: was intense, just wait because what happens next makes everything 560 00:29:51,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: you just heard sound like a warm up.