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One of the regular features on our 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.639 Bengals Radio Network pregame show is my weekly fun Facts 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.800 interview where you get to know the person under the pad. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.200 This week's subject is a guy who is having an 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.640 excellent training camp and has some very interesting stories to share. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.919 Time for some fun facts with wide receiver Trent and 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.760 Irwin from Glendale, California, not far from Los Angeles, and 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.399 we've got all sorts of stuff to cover with you. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.400 Let's start with acting. You were a child actor, mostly 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.880 in commercials for some well known companies like Nissan, Subway 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.040 and Microsoft. How did you get started? You know, my 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.600 dad actually loved acting, so it was sort of a 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.080 family family business. I don't know what you call it, 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.639 but we all went on auditions and I had a 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.040 blast with it. It actually was a cool experience to 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.600 sort of express myself out there. You know, I was 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.840 a shy kid, so it was you know, I learned 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.880 a lot from that. Does child acting paywell, it actually 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.680 did it did. I'm making you know, ten fifteen thousand 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.720 from a commercial, so it was unbelievable. You know. It 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.120 was expected that it might be a little bit of 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.200 a college payment, but my college ended up being free, 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.239 so that's a blood. Did you ever act with anybody 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.120 in a commercial that went on to a significant acting career. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.720 I don't think I could say yes to that. I've 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.240 been in quite a few commercials, but I don't know 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.359 if anyone really had to glow up from the commercial 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.080 to theatrical era. I don't think there was anyone there. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.040 Do you have a favorite actor and if so, why 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.480 a favorite actor? Wow, that's tough. I might have to 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.440 go with someone like like Denzel Washington or something, you know, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.840 just I feel like he never hit misses in a movie. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.480 That's my answer too. You can't go wrong with Denzel No, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.480 he never misses. We're doing fun facts with wide receiver 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.960 Trenton Irwin. Let's turn to football. California is a big state, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.760 legendary high school football programs. At the end of your 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.800 high school career, you had the most receptions of anybody 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.360 in state history. If that were me, I'd be incredibly 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.560 proud of that, are you? Oh? Totally? It was. It 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.240 was an honor, you know, I had. I had the 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.240 opportunity to play four years there, and me and my 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.200 teammates were great, But it was it was an honor, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:01.840 and it was just it was a fun experience. I mean, 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.920 I remember high school like it was yesterday, so I 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.520 can't complain that it was a good old days having fun, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.560 just backyard, you know, messing around pretty much. Did your 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.680 high school team ever have a running play? My senior year, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.120 we threw the ball a lot, we did, but you know, 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.320 we made the playoffs second round and got knocked out 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:20.760 by a team that could run the ball a little 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.039 better than we could. So a number of college football 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.960 powerhouse programs recruited you. You chose to play at Stanford, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.159 one of the most prestigious academic universities in the country. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.920 Why did you choose Stanford? Man, it was really between 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.080 ASCU and Stanford for the longest time because my high 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.520 school buddy, who I also played with since seventh grade, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:44.000 went to ASDU and he was quarterbacks that quarterback receiver connection. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.160 But came down to it, you know, it's hard to 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400 pass up on Stanford. And I'm being honest, My mama 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.000 really wanted me to go to Stanford. So Mama rules 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.000 mom gave you some good advice. Was that quarterback Brady White. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.000 That quarterback was Brady White, and that's still one of 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.640 my best buds. I'm very thankful there. So I also 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.880 broadcast University of since Sinnattie games, so I saw plenty 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.320 of Brady White at Memphis and he went on to 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.359 have a tremendous college career. Oh yeah, Now he did fantastic, 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.719 as I knew was going to happen because it's just 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.240 the type of person player that he is. All right, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.680 back to Stanford. What was the toughest course you took? 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.400 The toughest course. I took this one course on like 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.880 air pollution and water pollution based off of how far 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.320 the distance was, and it was it was brutal. I 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.200 took it the first time. I think my first two tests, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.240 I got like twenty five and thirty percent, and I 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.359 was I dropped out. And then the curve was super friendly. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.400 So a lot of my guys passed, and they passed 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.040 with bees and season I was like, dang, all right, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.360 I gotta take this again. So I took it twice. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.719 It was very brutal, but it was it was humbling, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.839 and it was it was inexperience. I'll just say that, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.760 and a great lesson. I'm grading on the curve. Yes, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.559 the curve can be friendly all the smokes. We're talking 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.320 to Bengals wide receiver Trenton Irwin. Your freshman you were 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.599 at Stanford. You guys went to the Rose Bowl. You 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.360 wiped out Iowa forty five to sixteen. You had catch 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.760 in the game. What do you remember most vividly about 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.160 getting to play in a Rose Bowl? Man? I mean, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.640 my whole family had been Michigan fans, so they always 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.320 watched the Rose Bowl a lot there with that being, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.359 you know, but I think just going out there watching 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.880 the jet go over the top of the stadium was unbelievable, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.080 and then it was it was just surreal, you know, 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.200 it came. It was like a fairytale because it just 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.800 kept piling on. We just kept really smacking them. But 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.080 it was a fun game and it was, I mean 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.640 pretty cool to get that. My first year you had 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.560 a catch in your final forty games at Stanford and 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.280 then in the final regular season game. If you're seenior year, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.000 you tore your ACO or your MCO. Rather how disappointing 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.000 or difficult was the timing of that. It's super tough, 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.320 you know, it's super tough, and there's only so much 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.400 you can handle. I mean, after an incident, what's done 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.320 is done, and you got to bounce back from there. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.400 And I honestly think there was so much that I 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 learned from that experience. You know, I don't ever wish 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.880 that upon me or anyone, but I think that it's 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.880 a learning opportunity and if you take it as that, 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.279 you can grow a lot. We're talking to wide receiver 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.880 Trent irwind Or, sixteen for the Bengals. This is your 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.080 third year with Cincinnati, mostly on the practice squad so far, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.480 but you did have your first career regular season catch 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.920 last year in the Houston game. Did that give you 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.480 a feeling of no matter what happens from here on out, 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.440 you made the NFL record Book. It was pretty awesome. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.120 That's always what we talk about. But I mean, it's 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.080 I think it's a cool experience to try to get 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.640 it out in the mud. You know, you're out there 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.640 with your boys and you're trying to grind and try 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.240 to get more opportunities and make more plays with those, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.760 and it's you know, it's a fight every day, and 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.559 it's a honor to have a sport and a job 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.040 that you really go out there and compete every single 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.760 day on the field, and it's you know, sometimes things 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.960 go bad, sometimes things go great, but that's that's the 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.600 fact to compete in every single day. So I'm thrilled 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.840 to have the job and have the opportunities when they 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.800 come about, and just having fun with the day by day. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.480 A few more questions for Trent and Irwin. Were accustomed 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:56.120 to seeing players swap jerseys after games, but your jersey 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.160 collection goes well beyond that, correct, Oh, totally, I have. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.760 I think I had like a hundred and ten jerseys 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.680 and I wore them every day in middle school, in 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.160 high school, and I've fallen off a little bit just 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.480 because I feel weird wearing jerseys with people I play with. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.320 All right, what are some of the favorites in your collection? Oh? Man, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.240 I've got a Tom Brady at Michigan. That was always 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.680 one of my favorites, and my dad loved Michigan. There 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.040 I've got, I mean, I've got some. I've got Randy 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.480 Moss from like every team he was on. So I 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.400 have a have a Yellow I don't even know if 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.520 that's real, but I have a yellow Minnesota. I got 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.440 a purple Minnesota. I got a New England. I have 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.640 a Raiders Randy Moss. I mean, like, I have so 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.880 many unique jerseys that it's you know, I wish I 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.640 could still wear them, but I feel a little awkward 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.440 with people who might actually be those people when I 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.960 was young. And now Randy Moss's son, Thaddeus is your teammate. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.440 Does he know that you have this awesome collection of 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.800 jerseys of his dad. We have not had that conversation yet. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.760 We might need to, you know, scratch that one up 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.439 and check it out, but he does not know yet. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.840 All Right, you've got long flowing blonde hair, are you 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.560 aware of the fact that the ladies in the COVID 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:11.160 testing trailer call you Tarzan. Yes, they called me Tarzan 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.880 every day. Man, they're the best. They bring that energy, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.400 you know, so it's always cool to, you know, have 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.440 that energy from people, and you know, I just gotta 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.640 rept the name. I guess you're having an excellent camp. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.920 It seems to me every day at training camp I 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.800 write down a note. There he is again, number sixteen, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.880 making more catches. Do you feel like things have gone 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.640 particularly well for you this training camp so far? I 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.280 think they've gone great. You know. I've worked all offseason 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.600 to try to get opportunities, and when opportunities come, I 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:40.520 try to make plays. And all I can do is 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.760 have the best response after a play this good or bad, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.920 because sometimes I play this good, We'll get you too high, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.800 or to play this bad, I'll get you too low. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.400 So trying to have the right response after whatever the 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.840 outcome is of the previous play that is most conducive 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.960 for me having success in this play. This has been fun. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.520 I appreciate your time. Best of luck in twenty twenty one. Hey, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.360 I appreciate you always great. That's fun. Facts with Trent Irwin. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.000 The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.120 It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.880 The Bengals are basically midway through training camp. They've been 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.640 practicing for about three weeks, and the regular season opener 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.920 against the Vikings is roughly three weeks away. It's a 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.720 good time to take stock of how the team looks 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.760 at this point with Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Butch. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.679 Hobson all Right, Butch, I've come up with a series 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.760 of topics for both of us to weigh in on 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.560 heading into the Washington game on Friday night. Topic number one, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.800 the biggest story of training camp is what's your answer? 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.599 I'm actually more interested to hear you than me, and 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:47.160 I will say, obviously it's you know Borrow, It's obviously 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.560 is is on another planet when you're talking about him, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.679 So we'll do something else. My opinion, how the defense, 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.640 the defense is just surface the way they had drew 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.199 it up on the board, when they drew this thing 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.040 up in free agency and the draft, what they wanted 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.920 these guys to do, I mean, day after day in 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:11.240 practice and in the preseason game, in Tampa. These guys 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.880 have just you know, the three three new cornerbacks, the 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.400 Trey Hendrickson, the edge man, Logan Wilson has stepped in 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.680 a middle linebacker. To me, that's been the stories of defense. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.120 And I know early on Borrows struggled and maybe we were, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.720 you know, maybe the defense sucked the sin like the 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.760 Red Sox did. But I think that they that was 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.600 part of a big reason that borrow struggles were. He 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.439 was playing at defense that was a helld a lot 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.040 better than the one he had the year before. So 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 to me, for my money, it's how this defense has 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.319 come to show up. No coincidence that you worked sucked 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.480 and Red Sox into the same sentence there. I agree 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.160 with you about the defense. I would say the secondary 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.600 in particular Trey Wayne's should obey a wouge and Mike 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.560 Hilton had been great. But it does an end there. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.600 Eli Apple was good before he tweaked his hamstring. Darius 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.000 Phillips always seems to make plays. Jayalen Davis has been 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.520 a nice or is having a nice camp. I was 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.200 going to say has been a nice edition, but he 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.320 was with the team for six games last year, but 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.720 being used exclusively in the slot seems to be bringing 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.960 out the best in him. But since I need to 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.640 have an answer that is different from yours, I will 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.880 say that the biggest story of training camp is that 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:32.400 Joe Burrow is mortal. He set the bar so ridiculously 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.840 high that as he came back from a major injury 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.120 I stupidly thought that he would look exactly the way 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.400 he did the play before the injury in Washington. Just 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.560 everything would be fine, no big deal. He's Joe Burrow. Well, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.880 as it turns out, he's human. And it did take 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.240 him some time, about a week that was it, and 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.840 then he was Joe Burrow again. So I never really 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.959 doubted that he was going to be Joe Burrow again. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.400 There was a little stretch where I thought it might 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.400 take some time. It might be four games into the season, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.440 maybe be six games into the season. Now I don't 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.400 fear that at all. I think he's going to be 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.840 great from the opener against the Vikings, and you know, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.520 he's human, but he's not very much of a human. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.199 What I liked is he is he told us that 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.360 you know, he was very open, right I I joked 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.920 with them later, I thought the key was your was 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.880 your was your news conference where you let it all 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.720 hang out and you talked it into uh and you 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.600 talked it into reality. I thought it was really that 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.640 was to me that that was and you're right, horny, 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.680 I think that is the that that is a good 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.120 storyline to me the most. But well, think alreay Man. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.240 I'll take away from this camp is not any practice 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.760 or any play or anything like that, but that those 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.800 those fifteen minutes he stood up there and basically, you know, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.960 you could tell he was a guy searching and he 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.800 didn't hide it, right, and think about the confidence that 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.960 that takes for a quarterback to acknowledge. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.600 right now, right, I don't like seeing bodies around my 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.439 injured left b And then it was almost like that 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.000 very day flip the switch, just like you said, getting 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.280 it off his chest seemed to be a freeing moment 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.400 and since then he has looked, for lack of a 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.440 better word, normal, see the media. You can help it. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.000 Let's take credit. All right, We'll move on to topic 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.320 number two. Give me a player who has really impressed 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.440 you and why you know, I would say just the 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:41.200 rookie tackle Dante Smith, just because you've seen a lot 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.480 of rookies come through who were much higher pedigree, who 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.400 were drafted higher, and they haven't played like this. You know, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.200 he's come on and he's just been he's been great. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.280 You know. The only down thing is he at d hydrated. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.560 You know, he got de hydrated. Now that was effort 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.960 he got, he got, he got. You got stood up 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.200 pretty well from from Larry. Oh, go ahead, horder, you 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.640 can pronounce it. Oh, Joe. Know, he was having a nice, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.520 nice little run here and he was kind of tortured 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.600 Dante and he had a rough day and then he 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.480 sat out Wednesday because he was dehydrated and he may 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.880 not play Thursday. So but that's really the only down, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.200 that's really only blip he's had. And I think the 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.840 fact that you know, this is all through, all through 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.239 the draft, you know, after they drafted him in the spring. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.160 You know it was this guy, you know, we we 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.600 we liked this guy because of his size. He's smart, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.040 and he's got the NFL dimensions, he's got the lap 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.240 has talked about his arms, he's got those thirty five 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.720 in arms, and you know it was just you just 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.240 assumed he was going to be a project. Well, he's 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.800 not a project. To me, it looks like he's pretty 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.240 close to being in the opening day, uh, left guard, 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.960 which is really that's that's something. So and he's a 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.240 nice and he's a he's a very earnest guy. I 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.520 talked to his high school coach, spent some time talking 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.160 to him, and you know, he's the first well this 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.120 is what amazed me. His county and Georgie's right outside Augusta, Georgia, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.560 and he is the first player in that county's history 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.280 to be drafted by the NFL. And you would just 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.880 assume that, you know, football rich territory like that, because 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.360 they do border you know, such towns as but James 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.480 Brooks was from and actually where Trade, where Trey Hill 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.640 was from. The sixth round pick the center from Georgia. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.920 But no, nobody's he's like the first guy from his 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:38.200 county drafted. And so an interesting guy, humble guy. And 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:43.720 obviously Frank pollacka Frank poll loves him. He has been impressive, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.320 no question about it. I saw a little bit of 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.440 his potential when he was at East Carolina competing against 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.680 you see a couple of years ago. He was mostly 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.680 out last year, but a couple of years ago. I 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.680 remember in my notes people saying that, you know he 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.880 was a legit NFL pros Becton, he certainly looks like one. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.920 So far, my guy would be chitubey a Wouge. I mean, 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.800 he has been fly paper during training camp, sticking to 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.760 whoever he has been defending at practice. He basically is 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.320 he's been what we like about Will Jackson the third 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.880 at half the price. I mean, just tremendous coverage skills. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.000 I know it's just three weeks of practice, but hopefully 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.000 it carries over to the games. He was a second 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.120 round draft pick by the Cowboys. If you go back 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.520 and look at his PFF grades, they were great in 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.760 two of his four NFL seasons. They were poor last 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.440 year when he was playing hurt. But I think at 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.800 seven million dollars a year for the next three years, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.600 that could turn out to be a tremendous steal. And 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.080 then we heard Zach Taylor say he's one of the 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.080 most impressive human beings that we've ever had in the building. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:55.359 So really encouraged by chitube A Wouge. So far. Yeah, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.240 that's a good one, Dan, I know, talking to Stephen Nisovic, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.399 the Bengal spector of Pro Scout. I mean, he had 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:05.400 scouted who's he coming out of Colorado and he had obviously, 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.119 you know, looked at him a free agency and he 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.800 said both times he surprised him about how you know, 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.520 he knew he was a good player both both places 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.800 when he was coming out of Colorado and from Dallas, 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.520 and he both times he surprised them and how how 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.240 good he was. But he was a guy that they 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.359 and you hit it right on the head about the money. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.160 He was a guy they zeroed in on immediately because 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.879 they because they felt like exactly what you said, they 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.120 could get a pretty good price for him. And that's 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.080 exactly what Steve pointed out was his PF grades were 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.760 very comparable to some big to corners her who who 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.280 we're going to haul down a fifteen million a year, 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.800 which was one of them was will bull Jackson, And 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.600 the PF grades were were almost the same. And it's 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:55.080 amazing how guys get categorized and everything. But he is 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.720 a he's an interesting guy as well. And that's another 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.320 thing too that I guess I failed mentioned. All these 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:06.040 guys bringing uh, they're they're they're confident, they're well spoken, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.320 their lead you know, their leaders from a wooz a 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.560 to to to Mike Hilton to Hendrickson. These are guys 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.160 who were just impressive guys. Whose was telling me about 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.399 how he he and Matrie Cooper started playing chess when 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.119 they were in Dallas And what was they like the 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.040 fact that you know, all these guys were into Madden 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.240 and all this other stuff, you know, call of duty 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.800 and and was it was a Fortnite Fortnite guy? Yeah, 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.360 I remember because I remember bow Gats. Remember bow Gats 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.240 would hit a double. He used to do the celebration 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.600 like That's how I know about Fortnite. And I certainly 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.560 don't play it, but uh and he uh, and whose 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.119 was saying it was kind of you know, he and 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.359 Cooper were playing chess. I think you liked that because 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.440 that that that knocked down some stereotypes, you know, and uh, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.479 he's he's a he's an interesting guy to talk to. Uh, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.560 smart guy and good to talk to. Good for the 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.159 I mean, I wish, my god, I wish it was 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.400 an open locker room because these guys are these guys 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.040 are terrific to talk to them. Yeah, totally agree. I 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.280 wonder if he's seen the Queen's gambit that was very good. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.320 I think he I think he has highly recommend I 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.240 think I think I think I think Burrow is leading 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.200 kind of a it's finely kind of funny because Woz 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.520 came with this background and now and now Burrow has 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.440 been playing chess with Daddy's moss, and so I think 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.000 that's a little thing in the locker room right now, 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.160 which is kind of which is you know, I don't think, 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.280 you know, breaking into the business forty years ago, Hardy. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.240 I don't think we thought it'd be a chessboard in 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.400 an NFL locker room, But I think it's great ping 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.320 pong table out chessboard. Yeah, all right, let's move on 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.680 to our next topic, similar topic, but let's choose from 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.760 somebody that's more on the roster bubble who has impressed you. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.960