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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, baby, where's my writing wife beater? I

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My

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Speaker 1: Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 2: The podcast that dives deep into the pockets of black

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: And we finally work to prove that the stump at

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Speaker 1: That's right, you rub that stump and all of your

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Speaker 1: dreams will come true. But at what cost? At what cost,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Neo rubbed that stump, and yes he

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Speaker 1: got to make the song misindependent, But in exchange, he

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Speaker 1: He's he's a black man. He dances better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: And it's sad. It's a sad story.

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Speaker 2: You said dances better than anybody. You don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Neil is a pretty great dancer, man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anybody.

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Speaker 1: I was exaggerating. I took it.

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Speaker 2: Are you a Neil guy?

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Speaker 1: I like, Neo? Are you a baby? I'm a busted baby?

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Speaker 1: Sure you and my little sister I'm a baby far too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mons, I never heard busted baby part.

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Speaker 1: One nobody has. I'm not even one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: plies that's hurt Buzzing Baby Part one.

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Speaker 2: I hope the conspiracy is that they never made a

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Speaker 1: I like that, and I like that applies.

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Speaker 2: Was like, what if we just hit them with part two? Nobody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that makes us mysterious. They're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Well I'm like Ston Kerman, I'm David boy

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Speaker 3: Do you ever?

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Speaker 2: Is that like the thing you could ever use in cash?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever? Nobody's ever actually called someone a busted baby? Right?

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Speaker 2: Maybe we bring it back this summer. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I think Busted Baby needs a revival. We are working

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Speaker 1: Gotta get bust it baby. May our our guests.

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Speaker 1: Next Chapter's podcast Beef. She's she's talented, she's lovely. Please

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, well you came to us with a conspiracy

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Speaker 2: It smelled like my song.

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Speaker 3: As like professional funny people comedians. I've always wondered why

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Speaker 5: Quite frankly, I don't know what what happened. I've heard

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Speaker 3: I watched this documentary on CNN recently, but w come

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think with a lot of these movements,

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Speaker 1: Terry Cruz was as much the face of that shit

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Speaker 3: I me too. Why do you hate him because I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think he's on our team. I think that he's

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Speaker 1: And that's the police coming to get you right now.

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Speaker 5: I'm ten toes down on it. I'll do my time,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd agree with you. This is talk about conspiracy

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Speaker 2: Also, if you got that buff just to dance for

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Speaker 1: Well he figured out that white people were more fast

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Speaker 1: fascinated with his buffness. Then then black people could make

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy, it's not even he hasn't even like

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Speaker 1: He's just like, what I want to be is a

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Speaker 2: Also, you're addicted to porn.

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Speaker 1: Grow up.

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Speaker 2: People don't have clean water in this country. Why am

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Speaker 2: I talking to you? What are you doing? Shut the

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Speaker 1: You almost lost your family because you can't stay off

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Speaker 1: a porn hub. Fuck is wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: Talked about a pornography? Sammon?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh this.

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Speaker 1: Was This was actually before I would argue in Bory,

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Speaker 2: Any because what was the acronym was like cool outside

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Speaker 2: And I don't know. I don't know enough about either

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Speaker 1: I dare say bigger than we'd like.

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Speaker 3: Damn tip of the Terry Crews Iceberg. I only I

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Speaker 2: There's a lot there, there's no bottom, there's just an

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Speaker 3: Oh conquer our own negativity.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so so so Terry Crews aside you Bridget

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Speaker 3: Oh my god everyone. So my I come from one

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Speaker 2: It's like some guy with the avatar that's like a

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Speaker 1: Yep, just waiting in the wings, just like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Bory, was this something that you were you a

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Speaker 2: I and not in a sad way, but grew up

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Speaker 1: How did how did his takedown hit you? Was that

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Speaker 2: I'm used to Dad's not being ship.

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Speaker 3: So I took America's dad. Of course he's a dead beat. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like the way that they say you see

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Speaker 2: But like it didn't like hurt my face. It was sad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like it's sad. I'm saddened that we couldn't

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Speaker 2: was just like how many people, Yeah, he probably did

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Speaker 8: Yeah, five really like because you gotta you gotta like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so it's like, yeah, man, no, it's

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00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: not that complicated.

442
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: It's a it is a weird thing to sit around

443
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: people who and I have people in my life still

444
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: who will advocate for like the injustices that transpired and

445
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby going to jail. Whatever. Bro, Bro, we're talking

446
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: about sixty plus women, Like, I don't know what what

447
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: what do you want?

448
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: Who's ever had sixty? Is so many? Who's ever ever

449
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: had sixties? Whoever had that? Yeah, this would be unprecedented.

450
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: No, he's putting up legendary numbers. Period. It's it's surely

451
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 1: he is the goat, you know what I mean, like

452
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: is doing goat ship. It's not as far as rape is.

453
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: Numbers, right, Like like the term great is not moral.

454
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: It's just like no, it's it's objective in this sense,

455
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: I understand. I have no feelings about great. It just

456
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: is it's technically true.

457
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: What's funny is like kind of like what you were

458
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: saying about Michael Jordan. What I learned from watching that

459
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: documentary is that not only is it rapes and sexual

460
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: assaults and all of that, but also he just seems

461
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 3: like kind of a shitty guy. Like they also go

462
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: back through like interpersonal interactions that did not involve like

463
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: sexual assaults, where it's just like, yeah, he just kind

464
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: of comes off like a dick. They make the point

465
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: that he kind of got a bullshit PhD from Temple

466
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: in order to have the moral high ground. But like

467
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: I usedally just bought that PhD so that he could

468
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: be like, well, I'm doctor Cousby, and I think this,

469
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: you don't have like intellectual high ground over people that

470
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: probably knew better.

471
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Than him, for sure, a pseudo intellectual.

472
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 3: Oh I hate that's like my rape aside. That's one

473
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: of the most annoying.

474
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even a it's not even a uh

475
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: he bought it. I think it truly is just an

476
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: honorary degree that he then was like, yeah, I'm gonna

477
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: let this define me. And it's like, Bro, every celebrity

478
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: we know has an honorary degree from some fucking institution.

479
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: Didn't you go to Temple on a track scholarship like

480
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: you were a job?

481
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you were. You were like a football track dude,

482
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: and then you're suddenly being like, I'm doctor Cosby.

483
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: Fuck off. Whenever I think about Bill Cosby, I had

484
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's an Indian immigrant who came

485
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: here and he was like, the way he explained the

486
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: Commons show is so funny. He was like, yeah, I

487
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: never liked that show. He was like, all that guy

488
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: did was like hate on his kids, eat sandwiches, and

489
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: try to bang his wife at weird times.

490
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa and have like pregnant women because

491
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: he was an obgy having women come down to his basement.

492
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: Office not a pig in the medical field.

493
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: Very weird. You're going to very weird.

494
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: If you're going to the basement to get medical procedures,

495
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: it's most likely for hast shots, yeah, not for someone

496
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: to consult about delivering your baby.

497
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

498
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: No.

499
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: And he and he talked down to those pregnant women

500
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: in a way that when we look back on it's like, oh,

501
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: he wasn't even being cool as the obg y n

502
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He wasn't He wasn't being chill.

503
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: He strikes me as a type of doctor who would

504
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: like have a sucker in his mouth, like you know

505
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: what I mean.

506
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an oral fixation. Yeah.

507
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: He like starts the conversation like so what's up, and

508
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: you're like.

509
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Bro, no, no, no, no no, no.

510
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Olivia sent this over. I think this is a good

511
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: piece of information to send us into break before we

512
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: get to this research, but she said he received seventy

513
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: two honorary degrees, almost as many as women. He's raped, uh,

514
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: seventy two honorary degrees in recognition of his career in

515
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: acting in comedy. Sixty two of these have since been revoked.

516
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: Who are the ten?

517
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Who are the other ten?

518
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Divide was like, now, dog, you got it, we still

519
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: need it.

520
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: TG TECH was like, fuck off, he's still a doctor

521
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: to us.

522
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Also, Yo, we got to relax on this entertainment worship.

523
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: No one deserves a degree for being good at acting.

524
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 7: That's crazy or comedy, and I do both mediocre. Nobody

525
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 7: deserves No, there's no part of this job that deserves

526
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: a college degree.

527
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: It's insane, it's crazy.

528
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Just just say you like me and

529
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: maybe watched whatever program I had more. I don't know,

530
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: but like, you're you're losing your fucking mind if you're

531
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: gonna treat this like it's something worth awarding.

532
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

533
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: Anyways, he rapes, all right, he right, And we're gonna

534
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: take a break, and we're gonna we're gonna count and

535
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: figure out which which institutions are still loyal cosbyus, We're

536
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We'll be back with more, bridget

537
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: Hod and more. My mama told me.

538
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: You're ugly, You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me

539
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars.

540
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: Know what?

541
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Making four hundred? We are back disgusting. Whether or not

542
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby was on board to purchase NBC? Correct not CBS?

543
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, NBC? Did you hear CBS?

544
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: I thought I just thought he was a CBS guy.

545
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: I believe most of his albums were on CBS.

546
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: His his TV show was NBC, though.

547
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Oh was it? Yeah? And it just he seems like

548
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: a guy who would be friends with Sumner Redstone. I

549
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: don't know why.

550
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I will say, and this, this is maybe a

551
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: good sec way into the research because bridget you, if

552
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm understanding correctly, you were saying you don't even believe

553
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: that he was in line to purchase NBC.

554
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely not my understanding. And I'm really curious to get

555
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: to hear the research that you put together. But my

556
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: understanding is that it was like casually floated in one interview,

557
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: like a Newsweek interview, in one sentence in like nineteen

558
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: eighty or something like that, was never returned to you

559
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: in any kind of substantive or meaningful way, and like

560
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: still just that one sentence has become this thing that

561
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: people have built up so much lower around. That's my understanding,

562
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: but I'm really curious to hear what you found.

563
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: Well, sister, I hate to burst your goddamn bubblo shit.

564
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: But as it turns out, William Cosby did, in fact

565
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: try to buy INBC. In fact, in fact, in twenty

566
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: and twenty fifteen, there was a Vanity Fair article where

567
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: journalists speak extremely glowingly about Bill Cosby. It shows you

568
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: how crazy time is that twenty fifteen they are still

569
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: referring to him as America's dead he's everybody's favorite comedian,

570
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: but they are specifically talking about his endeavor to acquire

571
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: NBC and restore the brand.

572
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: You're fucking lying years ago, shocked.

573
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, also restore the brand they were killing it.

574
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Not according to Bill Cosby.

575
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they put on his Doctor Cosby stick like well,

576
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: according to me, estuumed doctor cosbycause we are going wrong

577
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: NBC chairman.

578
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: No, he was not happy with where the brand was

579
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: and was ready to buy NBC. And one of the

580
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: main takeaways that they sort of point to is that

581
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Bill Cosby, right, Like, this wasn't Bill

582
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Cosby by himself collecting all of his money and trying

583
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: to make this happen?

584
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: Was it like the access of evil? Let me guess

585
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: who else it was?

586
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, I'm excited.

587
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: Bill, Bill Cosby, Terry Crews Okay, the dude from the

588
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Shy who fell out of Grace.

589
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. And then lastly, you gotta throw a

590
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: wild card in there, Russell Simmons.

591
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: Oh, Charles Barkley, WHOA?

592
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: I like this, that's the crew.

593
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: I think I I unfortunately cannot cannot offer you any

594
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: of those other names on this list, although they might

595
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: have been silent investors. But one of the people, the

596
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: main person that he had sort of partnered with, is

597
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: this dude, Robert J. Westler, right, who is actually one

598
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: of the co founders of CNN and had just shifted

599
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: over as the head David of CBS Sports. He was

600
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: the head of CBS Sports and then teamed up with

601
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Cosby after leaving that job to basically work with one

602
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: of the major banks. I can't remember which one because

603
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: who the fuck cares one of the big ones, but

604
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: they basically put together four billion dollars as an offer

605
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: with AB to buy NBC from. Who would they have

606
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: been buying it from at that point, mister NBC? Whoever

607
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: the head of Andy Lack at that point it might

608
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: have been I.

609
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: Former chairman of NBC. I don't I don't know if

610
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: he was during that during that era, but that's what

611
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: the last notable one was.

612
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: I think it sounds correct to me that I don't

613
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: remember specifically from the article some of the names I

614
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: skim over because I'm like, I don't give a fuck,

615
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: but the point being, yeah, he was, he was set

616
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: to try to buy NBC. Now here's where it gets

617
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: extra fascinating is that what it gets pitched to us,

618
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: right as when when we find out that this is

619
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: meant to happen, or rather that this is the justification

620
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: for why they took him down, is that he was

621
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: just too pro black. He just loved black people too much.

622
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: He wanted to save the black man from the injustices

623
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: of the white man running NBC. But the reality is

624
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: his partner in this is a rich white benefactor and

625
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: he's teaming up with like fucking JP Morgan to buy

626
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: the ship. So this ain't a black would all.

627
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: No, Look, I'm a dog. He's as black as conveyed.

628
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: That is our manifesto. That is the words to our

629
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: matching tattoos.

630
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: We got stamped a couple of months ago.

631
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: But no, oh, this wasn't some black endeavor. This wasn't

632
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: about like this salvation of the black community. This was

633
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: surely just Bill Cosby being like, hey, all, my ship's

634
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: over at NBC. I'll buy NBC and and make more

635
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: money that way.

636
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: And I have to say that the part of the

637
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory that Cosby was going to make all the

638
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: programming so pro black. He was too pro black. They

639
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: had to take him down. If there's one thing that

640
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: Cosby hates more than consent, it's black people. He spent

641
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: career scolding black people. This man was not pro black,

642
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: but that's not the way that he got down. But

643
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: he loved scolding black people. He wasn't too pro black.

644
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: What about Cousin Pam.

645
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: He loved her. I love she was my favorite.

646
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: Cousin Pam was your favorite person in the entire Cosby show.

647
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 5: I loved Cousin Pam, And I loved theo when he

648
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: worked at the after school program after he figured out

649
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: his dyslex Yeah, yeah, and what's his name from cbfore

650
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: her lance And I like that, I like the I

651
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 5: also liked three J on The Cosby Show. You know,

652
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: I had to think for wayward children, I got you.

653
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

654
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Well it's also worth noting and and you're speaking to

655
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: his intentions and this other guy's intentions inside of this.

656
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: One of the direct quotes from the article that they

657
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: say about the Cosby Wustler management group that was plotting

658
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: this purchase is that they had a specific strategic plan

659
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: designed to dramatically enhance profitability right away, re establish affiliate relations,

660
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: and put the network back in the hands of TV professionals. Literally,

661
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: not a single mention of niggas once and now.

662
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: They were going to reboot Friends or some shit.

663
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Can you imagine, like if this had

664
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: gone through and he bought NBC, what a Cosby owned

665
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: NBC would be like in the Trump years, Like presidential debates,

666
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: Like having Bill Cosby at the helm of all of

667
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: these wacky, weird dynamics within media and journalism, Bill Cosby

668
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: helming one of the five major news channels. Like I

669
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: can't even wrap my head around what.

670
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: You would have moderated the debates.

671
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: Oh you know he would have.

672
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: Debates stupid fucking sweater, yeah, cigar.

673
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh, blind and ship.

674
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Now you say it is like fuck you man, Let

675
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: them Let them be real politicians. Don't muddy this up

676
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: with like colloquial brought to you by how could a

677
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: woman is like, alright, man, just stop bro. The other

678
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: piece of this that I think is really important is

679
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: that there was one other quote from the Vanity Fair

680
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: that spoke specifically to Cosby's intentions inside of this right

681
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: then they said, or his dry And they say, and

682
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: I imagine this has a pr sort of quality to it,

683
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: but they can't even sort of pr it enough to

684
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: not make him into a sinister fuck. But they said

685
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Cosby was driven by three specific sins as it relates

686
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: to NBC, he said, television's one dimensional stereotyping of African Americans,

687
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: the pervasiveness of violence as entertainment in TV programming, And

688
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: NBC's cancelation of his Here and Now sitcom.

689
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: That gets like a whole bullet point being salty. They

690
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't even remember that sitcom.

691
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh his post Cosby work was bad Cosby.

692
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: So the Cosby Show I got it. Cosby had its

693
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: moments let's not forget the show stealing Cosby.

694
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

695
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: Dougie Doug shot.

696
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: We gotta get him on.

697
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: Oh man, let me know if you ever do, because

698
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: I be listening to the fuck out of that episode.

699
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Yo, we mentioned it. Where's Yeah, I don't know what happened.

700
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: He was in that.

701
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Uh, he was in that documentary. He's down to he's

702
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: down to talk some shit. I think he's got nothing

703
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: to lose.

704
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: At this boy.

705
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: He like, look, man, my eye is weird. I made

706
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: all the money. I'm gonna make what's up? But no,

707
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: I yeah, it seems to be very driven by sort

708
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: of a personal vendetta that that they did not like

709
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: the show that he made that no one liked.

710
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty up on my Cosby. I've never

711
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: even heard of here now.

712
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know there was a post like

713
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: the Cosby Show and then Cosby. I didn't know there

714
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: was anything after that.

715
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: Yep, Here and Now. And he was pissed about it.

716
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: So he was gonna buy he was going to spend

717
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: four billion dollars and what's even crazier. And this is

718
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: the part that that really becomes fascinating in all of

719
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: this is that four billion dollars he was willing to

720
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Speaker 1: spend on the whole thing. They estimated the company's worth

721
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Speaker 1: at the time to be two point five billion dollars,

722
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: so he was he was already offering one point five

723
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: billion more than the company's like total worth. Right, But

724
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: even with that, even with that, his offer, as it

725
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: was perceived by sort of like the elite, the people

726
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: who were in charge, the ones who would potentially be

727
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: selling the product, was considered like a joke. They did

728
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: not take him seriously inside of any of this, that

729
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: they were considering him, even with all of these banks,

730
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Speaker 1: even with this big white man attached to him to

731
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: be a unseerious person and not a real player in

732
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Speaker 1: the NBC purchase.

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Speaker 3: Game, I don't give a fuck. Who'll say, what blood

734
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Speaker 3: Oh crap.

735
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Speaker 2: Uh, that's hilarious.

736
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: Well why not? But why not with that's a lot

737
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: over high asking price. Well here's here's what I think.

738
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Speaker 1: And and I'm curious to hear where you guys fall

739
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: in this is that? And again, I am not defending

740
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby. I do think that he's a piece of shit.

741
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 1: All of those things are true, but I do think

742
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: it is very telling in terms of the way that

743
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: white people continue to control their spaces, that even Bill

744
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Cosby is too much of an existential threat to their

745
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: very existence if we allow him to take over such

746
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: a big piece of the pie. Do you know what

747
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I can't let niggas be owners of

748
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: one of the four fucking broadcast channels. That's not okay.

749
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: I do agree with you in that. I also, I

750
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 5: don't have any glasses to take off, but I also

751
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: think Bill Cosby's a piece of shit. No, I do

752
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 5: agree with you in that that. I don't know any

753
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: section of the media landscape that's not big that is

754
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: owned by black people. Yeah, right, I mean we joke

755
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 5: about it, but Biden Allen got the Weather Channel and

756
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: I think he's talking about buying b Et now, right.

757
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: But it's like, on a on a major scale, what

758
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 5: do we have TV one?

759
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't really know a lot of

760
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: major media media anything that's owned by it owned by black.

761
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the studios like Shonda Land and you know,

762
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's studios, like they there is a quality inside

763
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: of those that still has to partner with a big

764
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: white whatever to to sort of hold their value, right,

765
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Shondaaland only is valuable so long as she's partnered with

766
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: ABC and then Netflix. She ain't just cool off of

767
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: being Shondaaland on her own.

768
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: And then Tyler Perry is a universal back universal backing,

769
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: is that right?

770
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Speaker 1: It used to be Lionsgate. I don't know what it

771
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: is anymore. He I mean, he certainly owned like a

772
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: massive fucking studio and like it's I think the biggest

773
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: one in the country.

774
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: It's a lot of space to not pay people what

775
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: they need to be paid.

776
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Right, But that's and that's a different conversation.

777
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: Or hire a good wig master because his wigs are always.

778
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: Very right thick and they are ill placed.

779
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: That's what they used to say about me.

780
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh David Bory, the thick ill place, say it.

781
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: The way.

782
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: We like him to laugh?

783
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, Uh no, I I think I agree with

784
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: you on that is like to that to that point

785
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: because if not him who right?

786
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

787
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: For him to for him to be able to be

788
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: the front facing, the front, the face of a network.

789
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: If if if white American is not going to accept

790
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby who It's clearly not a monetary issue, right No,

791
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: Because he said asking was two point five he came.

792
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: At four, so it wasn't so much asking, And I

793
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: think that was part of evaluation. Their like argument inside

794
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: of this thing is that, like the evaluation from all

795
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the experts was like, it's worth two point five, and

796
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: then he showed up with four. And then all the

797
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: people in charge were like, we think it's worth six

798
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: point eight or some shit. And it's like, yeah, but

799
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: fuck you, no, it's not you know what I mean, Like,

800
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't being crazy with the number he showed up with.

801
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like somebody should have conquered his own negativity.

802
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: It sounds like you should have found a little more

803
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: money in them bootstraps he was pulling off.

804
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pull up those pants a little higher, some

805
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: money will fall out. How about that?

806
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: It must have chopped his ass. But they did not

807
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: see him as a serious buyer, like it must have

808
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: he like poor Camille, she must have never heard the

809
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: end of this.

810
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: Must sounds that came out of him before.

811
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet, I bet he went on a

812
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: quaylude spree after I bet everybody was getting dosed.

813
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: I'll show them who's not a serious buyer.

814
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, guess who brought up all the quayludes left in

815
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Montana William fucking Cosby, doctor William.

816
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: No, they didn't take him seriously, which I do think

818
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: at its core, it does feel very illuminating in terms

819
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: of like all these people were like you think jay

820
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: Z's in the illuminati, that nigga ain't in shit?

821
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: You have to sell liquor to get rich.

822
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not letting us do the thing.

823
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: People gotta get it, like over right, you have to

824
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: engage advice in some way?

825
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did he sell to rock jay Z? What's

826
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: his shit?

827
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: Now?

828
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: It used to be Christallin. Ain't that no more?

829
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 5: He bought a distributor, right, it was like it done

830
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 5: with armadeale, but he bought a whole liquor distributor, I

831
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 5: think is how he did it.

832
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: What do I think of that? By the way, because

833
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: I I'm as a like leftist, I'm always like, yeah,

834
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: fuck billionaires, But what do you do with the fact that,

835
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: like we like that jay Z is a billionaire? Right,

836
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm always like, wonder, like what do we do

837
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: with that?

838
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: To be black in America is complicated, you know what

839
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: I mean?

840
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Let me be clear, I do not root for jay

841
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Z being a billionaire. I liked the last album. I

842
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: think four four four is maybe some of his best work,

843
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: just in the growth and demonstration of like a man evolving.

844
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not shitting on jay Z as an artist,

845
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: but I am never rooting for any of my artists

846
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: to get like dumb money. It doesn't make them better artists,

847
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't make them more likable for me. It just

848
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: makes them rich assholes who probably have a bunch of

849
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: like conflicts inside of the things that they're selling.

850
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 4: Me.

851
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: Well, thank god, I'm not one of your favorite artists

852
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to get pain, you know. Send it

853
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: over a year back to the truck up jigger Man.

854
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: My tour is sponsored by Armadel Vodka. No I but sir,

855
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: in truth, yeah, I agree with you.

856
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 5: I don't the bee putting the b on it doesn't

857
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: necessarily I don't really believe the artist should be all

858
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 5: that rich in general.

859
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: I think it's the worst thing for it.

860
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of kind of takes away from it.

861
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: But I mean that's kind of an older me. I

862
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 5: think that when I first heard and I think that

863
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of distance traveled in a lifetime, and

864
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 5: I think that I mean to go from the piece

865
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Speaker 5: to be in a billionaire is, like you said.

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00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: It is great. The size of that. Yeah, to be

867
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: able to cover that ground in a single lifetime, past

868
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: generational wealth, that's amazing, you know what I mean. And

869
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: to be a black man and to beat the system

870
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: completely set up against you is very amazing. So in that,

871
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: I guess I do find it inspiring that jay Z

872
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: is a billionaire, but I also don't. I don't like

873
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: aspire to be a billionaire.

874
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a I think, let me get it,

875
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: it is a awe inspiring thing to watch a dude

876
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: who used to sell coke in the MARSI Projects suddenly

877
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: become a billionaire and able to play at that level.

878
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: And suddenly it was like a series of like you

879
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, nothing like that's that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't mean suddenly in the sense that

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Speaker 1: he woke up overnight. But like, even if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about a lifespan, he's fifty, it's not like he's you know,

883
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of he's not fucking Warren Buffett,

884
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Speaker 1: who was like one foot in the grave type shit.

885
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Speaker 1: He had to really do it in a short amount

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Speaker 1: of time. He didn't start like his rap career until

887
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: he was twenty six, So in twenty five years, essentially

888
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: he went from being a coke dealer to a fucking billionaire.

889
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That said, I'm not rooting for more zeros.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless you believe him that he started with

891
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand dollars.

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00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure he got the time to be a back.

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Speaker 5: PAGs put it in motion. They'tn't remind him me back.

894
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Speaker 5: But that's like, really the flory, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jay Z was a real nepo baby to the uh.

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Speaker 3: You a conspiracy that his dreads are sache.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I also kind of believe that I did. That's like,

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Speaker 5: you don't. I don't think that you are that rich

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Speaker 5: and you just don't wash your hair all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think those are

902
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Speaker 1: real dreads. I don't think that a fifty year old

903
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Speaker 1: man wearing a bandana is being honest with us at all.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw it with Hulk Hogan and we

905
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: know it with jay Z. There is the same vibe.

906
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Speaker 1: I want him to I'm glad that he likes Boskiot,

907
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: but I want him to get into other weird painters. Bro,

908
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: what if you just went through like a Salvador dolly face. Yeah,

909
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: but also like put me on man, stop telling me

910
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: about the one fucking artist that we all agree is great. Like,

911
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: tell me about some shit that I ain't never heard of.

912
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: And jay Z's just like, yo, you heard of Picasso.

913
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Speaker 1: It's like, fuck, yeah, I have.

914
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good point. Also, you know, yeah,

915
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I can't speak to art.

916
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Speaker 2: I have a I have a paint and full the

917
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Speaker 2: painting behind me. But it's gorgeous, thank you. I don't

918
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Speaker 2: like that. I don't like that. That's a good point,

919
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: So Jason, as soon as it came out, as soon

920
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: as it came out, it felt bad.

921
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I think maybe the more important lesson here, if we

922
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Speaker 1: were to wrap this thing up, it seems as if

923
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Speaker 1: we can all agree that Bill Cosby is a bad guy.

924
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Number one. That's the most important thing. Bill Cosby one

925
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent did all of the crimes that he's been

926
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Speaker 1: accused of doing, but he also was stifled in some

927
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: ways because of a maintenance of the powers that be

928
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: that maybe Bill Cosby's dreams were not allowed to reach

929
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: their greatest potential because of the color of his skin

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00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: and what he represented.

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Speaker 3: I think I learned that I came into this thinking

932
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: there was no truth to the NBC thing. I'm walking

933
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: away from this having learned something.

934
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: And it's dark because I kind of think I kind

935
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: of feel like maybe I thought that he didn't do

936
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: it because he's black. So, you know, we all this

937
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: is a big day for everybody.

938
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Speaker 1: Yep, you heard it here first, folks, bridget toide she

939
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Speaker 1: believes that Bill Cosby deserves a second change. Ye buying INBC.

940
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Speaker 2: Cosby apolog you.

941
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Speaker 3: I get canceled.

942
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: She said, give him one more shot at buying NBC

943
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: and make it fair this time.

944
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Speaker 3: I don't see what he does with I want to

945
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: see him moderate a Biden Trump debate. Dammit. I think

946
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: we all deserve this.

947
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would watch that front Listen.

948
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm not turning it off if it comes on to you.

949
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: It's not bad TV, right, that's great?

950
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Exactly.

951
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: Well, Bridgie, could you tell the people where they could

952
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: find you and what cool shit you have going on?

953
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: Yes, this was a pleasure. Thank you for having me

954
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: and thank you for teaching me something about Bill Cosby.

955
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: You can find me at my podcast. There are no

956
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Speaker 3: girls on the internet on iHeartRadio or my podcast with

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Speaker 3: Next Chapter podcasts Beef. If you want to dig into

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Speaker 3: you have not heard of, check it out. You can

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Speaker 3: find me on Twitter at Bridget Marie or on Instagram

961
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Speaker 3: at Bridget Marie in DC.

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Speaker 1: Helly, hell Ya, So follow her, go, go listen to

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Speaker 1: her podcast. She's great and bory. You want to tell

964
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Speaker 1: people where they can find you.

965
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I can. Cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram.

966
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Speaker 5: Bring David to plate dot com. I'm going on tour.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna read all the dates real fast or the

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Speaker 5: cities you can find it at Bring David to plate

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Speaker 5: dot com. Birmingham, Alabama, Ashville, North Carolina, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Raleigh,

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Speaker 5: North Carolina, Austin, Texas, Denver, Colorado, Indianapolis, Indiana, Morgantown, West Virginia,

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Speaker 5: Saint Louis, Missouri, New York City, So Falls, South Dakota, Minneapolis, Minnesota.

972
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Speaker 5: A few more cities to come. Nashville, I'm coming, you know, yeah,

973
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Speaker 5: check it out a little bitum foil tour. If send

974
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Speaker 5: me a picture of a plate you made, and if

975
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Speaker 5: I like it, I'll pick it and you can bring

976
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Speaker 5: it to the show and I will hit it afterwards

977
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Speaker 5: and take the picture of It's a whole point. I'm

978
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Speaker 5: eating all your food. And then also, you know, come

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Speaker 5: and see Blankston and I on the Flooride and Barbercide Tour.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, if you want to see Bory and I live,

981
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Speaker 1: we are doing the Fluoride and Barbercide Tour, which we

982
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Speaker 1: just announced last week, and we're coming to all kinds

983
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Speaker 1: of dope cities New York, picked, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Seattle, La, Austin. Yeah,

984
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a fuck ton of cool cities to

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Speaker 1: see us, and we would love to see you there.

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Speaker 1: Please go buy those tickets. You can find all the

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Speaker 1: details on the Instagram show page and also just our

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00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: own pages. I think all of that shit is available.

989
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: Don't make us do this alone. Yeah, that would fucking

990
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: suck if we show up and you're not there, So

991
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Speaker 1: fucking buy the tickets, you idiot. And then you can

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Speaker 1: follow me at Langston Herman on Instagram. And oh and

993
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Speaker 1: if you want to send us your own drops, your

994
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories, if you want to defend Bill Cosby,

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Speaker 1: send it to all to my Mama pod at gmail

996
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Speaker 1: dot co. We would love to hear from you. Okay,

997
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Speaker 1: we're officially done by bitch.

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Speaker 6: I actually am one point four percent Nigerian African.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sister, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The government, my crow chips.

1001
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Speaker 1: And yours.

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Speaker 4: All Kuala bears are racist. The old layers, the money,

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Speaker 4: our ships and attorney stuff. I can't tell me