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Speaker 1: My next guest is a chart topping gospel recording artist

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Speaker 1: who is a three time Grammy Award nominee. He's in

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Speaker 1: loving time Stellar Award winner, a Dove Award winner, a

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Speaker 1: Billboard Music Award winner. His latest album is Broken Record.

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Speaker 1: This is his fourth album. It will be released on Friday,

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Speaker 1: November one of this year. Please welcome the money making conversation,

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Speaker 1: my man, Travis Green. Yo, what's up? I'm done? Great?

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Speaker 1: First of all, Travis, where are you from? Where were

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Speaker 1: you born? And what did you grow up at? Born? Delaware?

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Speaker 1: First two years Germany primarily, Um, I grew up in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: State of Georgia. And um now I'm in Toronto, so

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Speaker 1: cut all over that you saw a Southern board keeping

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Speaker 1: him Southern root, South Carolina. Good food down there in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Good food. Baby, I'm sing to my rooms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You know I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you this as a gospel music artist, Are you can?

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Speaker 1: I can? I say you're You're You're different from anyone

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna just saying to me. Rashard McDonald, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people like I managed Steve Harvey,

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Speaker 1: so Stephen I did uh, you know, the Gospel celebration

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Speaker 1: for like thirteen straight years. So I'm deeply rooted and

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Speaker 1: watching gospel performers, you know, and and so in my

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Speaker 1: and my beliefs and not my understanding. Now tell me

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Speaker 1: what is your style before we really get into the interview,

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Speaker 1: and then I would give you my impressions because I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm impressed and I'm a big faith

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Speaker 1: So let me just say that. So anything you say,

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Speaker 1: nothing negative is gonna come out of my mouth about you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know what I see, what

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Speaker 1: I want to hear, what you are, what you feel

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Speaker 1: you're projecting, and I'm gonna tell you the greatness that

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Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, I would say, man, First of all,

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Speaker 1: I had a capital in a word, I say energy. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm better passionate about what I do. And

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Speaker 1: you know, jetty um, and I think it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like biblical truth, but in the digestible warm at

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Speaker 1: And that's really what I've been getting to do. To

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Speaker 1: take these ideas about God. Uh, I like to call

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Speaker 1: revelations of who He is and presented in the melodic form.

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Speaker 1: That's catchy, that's easy to Uh, that's a poachable for

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Speaker 1: the listener. Um, but but hopefully life changing wants the

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Speaker 1: word really get inside of you. And so that's that's

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Speaker 1: my style. Man, it's a beautiful style. Now tell me

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Speaker 1: who is your audience? My audience is is really done

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Speaker 1: verse believe it or not? And I believe no, no, no, no, no, Travis,

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Speaker 1: I believe it. Okay. Yeah, Well I didn't know until

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Speaker 1: I went out on tour, man, because you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't tour in churches. We're doing clubs when I'm on tour.

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Speaker 1: We're doing theaters and bars and stuff like that. And

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Speaker 1: its super diverse. Man. I mean, you got you got

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Speaker 1: you know, my my family in the room. You got blacks,

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Speaker 1: you got UM, but then you got white and you

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Speaker 1: got Hispanics. And I think the music is just in

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Speaker 1: such a way that UM and that really mattered people

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Speaker 1: skin tone. They can really kind of take it in

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Speaker 1: UM and they get you know, they get caught into

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Speaker 1: the energy of what we're relenting. So it's really cool man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really Uh, it's it's a beautiful thing, first of all,

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Speaker 1: and because of the fact that you're you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: doing the same lyrics that other African American artists are doing.

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Speaker 1: But it's sometimes I just read there is just resonating

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Speaker 1: in general, it is resonating with the African American community. Now,

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Speaker 1: your music and your tone, it's kind of like almost

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Speaker 1: a low rock and roll. It's kind of like, I

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Speaker 1: won't say rock and roll is not that hard, but

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Speaker 1: it's almost if I had to put a style on it.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of and just who then the blowfish,

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Speaker 1: Darris Rock. It's like watching him. It's like watching him,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's a negative thing to say

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Speaker 1: because he had the same He had the same ability

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Speaker 1: to have a crossover audience. You know, the diversity of

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Speaker 1: people out there appeally to his music even though he

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Speaker 1: was an African American and he was just singing from

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Speaker 1: the heart, relatable music like you were saying, but or

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Speaker 1: just have to be gospel. Yeah, South Carolina boy too.

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Speaker 1: So it makes sense. Absolutely, I'm very relatable. And so

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Speaker 1: now now here's the thing, because you know, I'm reading

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Speaker 1: your bio and like I said, uh before, before you

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Speaker 1: got into music. You know, here you are at Georgia Southern,

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Speaker 1: you know, and business management degree. You're about to go

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Speaker 1: know who you are. That's the key. So you're still

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Speaker 1: trying to find yourself. So you're still seeking out, but

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Speaker 1: you kind of know what you love. But is it

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Speaker 1: a reality? It is a it is a is a

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Speaker 1: realistic opportunity to go in that direction. Talk of walkers

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Speaker 1: through that whole process because a lot of our listeners,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the life are sitting on

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Speaker 1: that edge of opportunity. But fear, doubt, relatives, goods and

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Speaker 1: friends will will will will push you in the direction

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Speaker 1: of what they feel is safe. Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm you know this because you're successful. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the long game, right, Uh. The funny thing about a

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Speaker 1: of reach, is so different from your uh present reality,

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Speaker 1: that it can be overwhelming. I think the key is

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Speaker 1: to to have the vision of mine, but you know,

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Speaker 1: to really be faithful day to day. And so for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the reason I didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what I want to do because I like it was

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Speaker 1: in my heart. But it was like, man, I have

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Speaker 1: no idea how to get there, so let me just

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Speaker 1: kind of go and do something familiar or and do

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Speaker 1: something that shows me. And I think that's where most

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Speaker 1: people land, is like let me do what's shape and

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Speaker 1: that I can kind of figure my own plan out

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Speaker 1: for But but God didn't operate like that. Man. God

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Speaker 1: a guy that required her faith. A faith is risky

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Speaker 1: and so and the Bedia faith. And I have to

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Speaker 1: simplify what faith is. Being a faith is that it

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Speaker 1: requires God. Like, let's cim believe, if you can do

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Speaker 1: anything in your own trip, you don't need faith to

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Speaker 1: do it. Right. Faith is anything that required like, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna do this. I ain't got

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Speaker 1: That's what faith looks like, right, right, So that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what I add up out of my life. Well,

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Speaker 1: my friend, well you're held on to the faith, which

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Speaker 1: is a firm belief, and then you drove past doubters

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Speaker 1: and then somebody encourage you. Because as I would tell people,

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Speaker 1: those mentors, I call them bumpers in life. People people

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Speaker 1: bump you, and I say, because people are bump me.

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Speaker 1: When I was about to steer left, would say, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: what Shan. Your talents are really over here. Trust your talents,

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Speaker 1: can grow, that you can win with. And that's really

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Speaker 1: what this whole conversation is about that we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But it was, but I also wanted to transition. I

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Speaker 1: want to stay on that music because especially because it

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Speaker 1: it really really really allowed me to see the diverse

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Speaker 1: audience brand of Travis Green. Let's let's go with the

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Speaker 1: one that came out in April. Okay, nothing but the Blood.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my man, come come, come, come, come to traffic, Travis,

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Speaker 1: come on here. What I'm not gonna do when this

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Speaker 1: show money main conversation, it's fool somebody because I don't

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Speaker 1: play no music. I don't have no music to hide,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I better start talking

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Speaker 1: because I want you for twenty minutes. Okay, So now

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Speaker 1: where was that? Where was that video shot? At Man?

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Speaker 1: That was that Liberty University? Man Liberty and in Lynchburg Virginia.

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Speaker 1: And it was crazy, man, I mean talking. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's probably fifteen people. You know, students do this crazy

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Speaker 1: got free. UM A lot with like motion on mental

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Speaker 1: it was good. It was great vibes. Man. I'm gona

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Speaker 1: tell you the man watching that video, which I've watched

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Speaker 1: many times, UM, was emotional because I realized you were

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Speaker 1: touching so many different spirits and and then I made

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Speaker 1: my research on there where you was at. I just

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Speaker 1: want my audience to hear live at the University Lynchburg. Okay,

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Speaker 1: black man singing and being received. This hear the word received. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I want to talking about

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Speaker 1: as a couple of videos we're about to go to break.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about man Travis Green. I call my a innovator.

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Speaker 1: I called him the You can't see that he's already great,

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Speaker 1: but he's about to do some special things that they're

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Speaker 1: going to keep changing the game in gospel music. It's

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Speaker 1: for everybody, and he's letting it be seen through his music.

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Speaker 1: Be right, back what money may can come. Stations. See.

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Speaker 1: I have to catch myself man, because sometimes in between breaks,

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Speaker 1: because it's a transcending video. Because when I look at

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Speaker 1: from a standpoint of ticket sales response, who's showing up

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Speaker 1: even big time. They play churches, large megachurches because it's

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Speaker 1: feel it's very special. That's why this year I feel

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but for Rushan McDonald, it

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Speaker 1: was Travis Green's coming out party because it really, to me,

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Speaker 1: not articulating a different way. He's doing what he believes

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Speaker 1: is the music that he's been ordained to do through

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Speaker 1: his gifts. Singing gospel this way and people is being

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Speaker 1: received by everybody. Now, let's go to my next video

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Speaker 1: that came out in August. You know, the one where

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Speaker 1: you had the Grand Torino that was red and white.

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Speaker 1: You were so low by yourself. Won't let go now

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Speaker 1: now now, now, won't let go because you because you

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Speaker 1: were testifying in and you was telling me, this is

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Speaker 1: You walk into the cemetery, talk to me through the steps,

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Speaker 1: and what was the significance or maybe it wasn't in

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Speaker 1: a significance of the red and white grand Torino in

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Speaker 1: Won't let Go? Yeah, I love I love subliminal messages,

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Speaker 1: so I get how know those if you pay a

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Speaker 1: really we brought that vehicle out just to show that,

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Speaker 1: you know, older people aren't forgotten. I think so many

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Speaker 1: times we're so progressive in what we do, and we

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation, UM, I just want to spread your

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Travis, no no doubt man, much love of

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