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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melloncamp and Cameridge Edge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Melloncamp and Alexia.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Teddy, Hi, how's it going?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: There? You good?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm running around like a chicken with

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Speaker 2: my head cut off so much travel and work and

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Speaker 2: all the things. So it's definitely one of those days.

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Speaker 2: But I'm excited to get into this episode. I feel

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Speaker 2: like it took me on a whole like Merry Go

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Speaker 2: round of emotions like highs and.

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Speaker 3: Lows and like yo, well, I feel like you have

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Speaker 3: a lot to say no, especially that last scene in

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Speaker 3: the in the dinner. Oh god, all right, that was

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Speaker 3: hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: That was hard to watch. Before we even get into that,

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of headlines we need to get into.

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives is Orange County. Shannon Badour suffered setback and

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Speaker 2: court battle with ex John Janssen over leged facelift. Shannon

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Speaker 2: Badoor went to court and as a part of her

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Speaker 2: effort to settle with ex boyfriend John Jansen's lawsuit against her,

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Speaker 2: but according to court documents, an Orange County judge denied

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Speaker 2: Shannon's request to remove John's allegations of fraud from the case.

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Speaker 2: John accused Shannon of fraud and breach of contract. He

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Speaker 2: claimed that despite repeated requests, Shannon had refused to pay

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Speaker 2: back the money. He demanded the return of seventy five

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Speaker 2: thousand and punitive damages and attorney fees. In her recent motion,

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Speaker 2: Shannon argued John had failed to present enough evidence to

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Speaker 2: back up his allegation of promisory fraud. John opposed the

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Speaker 2: request and said his lawsuit had enough to press seed.

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Speaker 2: In addition, Shannon argued for John's requests for punitive damages

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Speaker 2: and attorney fees to be dismissed, but then the judge

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Speaker 2: denied her plea to prevent John from seeking punitive damages,

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Speaker 2: but did strike his request to have his attorney fees

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Speaker 2: paid for. The court noted John may be allowed to

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Speaker 2: re argue his case for fees at a later date.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't great, It's not really great.

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Speaker 3: No, And this is a lot to talk about. So

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Speaker 3: this for sure, I mean, this is like all over

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Speaker 3: the storyline, This is all over the place. So there's

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Speaker 3: a lot to talk about with this. How do you

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Speaker 3: feel about it. How do you feel about judge making

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Speaker 3: that decision? Did you think it was fair?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think oftentimes when it comes to

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Speaker 2: court cases, a lot isn't fair. But I think that

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Speaker 2: this definitely isn't a win for Shannon because if the

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Speaker 2: judge thought that Shannon was completely free of this that

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Speaker 2: I think the case would have been dropped.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to give you my honest opinion. I

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Speaker 3: think that the judges, you know, that are ruling all

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Speaker 3: these cases, you know, know about the Housewives, and he

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Speaker 3: may not particularly like you know, the housewives and reality

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Speaker 3: TV stars, and I think it's always a big risk

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Speaker 3: that you take, you know, being a public figure and

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Speaker 3: having this platform and being a reality TV star. I've

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Speaker 3: I think this is a case of that. You know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like John doesn't have enough evidence. I mean

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Speaker 3: by what he's saying and by what Alexis showed this episode.

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Speaker 3: I mean a receipt. What's the receipt that he sent it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Shannon's really not denying that he gave her

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Speaker 3: the money, so there's obvious proof that he did give

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Speaker 3: her the money, but there's no paper there's no contract.

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Speaker 3: There's no I mean, he could alled that it's a

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Speaker 3: verbal agreement, but they were dating and there were a couple.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows to say that he said, you

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe she said, you know, I'll pay you back,

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Speaker 3: But how is that like an agreement.

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Speaker 2: I have the feeling that there's going to be more

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Speaker 2: to come on this and it'll shed more light on stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I think it just goes back to always, whether

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Speaker 2: somebody is your boyfriend, your friend, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 2: loaning money or giving gifts at this high amount is

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Speaker 3: If you're with a housewife, if you're on a TV show,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened to a lot of the girls

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Speaker 2: But even if I'm not on a reality show right now,

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Speaker 3: And it's stipid. If it's a loone, why didn't he

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Speaker 3: get an agreement? Why didn't he make or sign a

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Speaker 3: no pay it's his word against first.

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Speaker 2: Well, and supposedly she said that she tried to pay

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Speaker 2: him back, allegedly something along those lines, but in order

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Speaker 2: for her to pay him back, he's no longer allowed

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Speaker 2: to stay disparaging comments about her. He refused to sign that,

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Speaker 2: which that that is the only part. I mean, all

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Speaker 2: this other shit. We can argue it back and forth,

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Speaker 2: it really is. You know, I don't love people money

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Speaker 2: just tricky because why wouldn't he want to sign the

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Speaker 2: have to go to court. Right.

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Speaker 3: No, And truthfully, they're going to spend all this money.

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Speaker 3: They're going to end up spending more than to so

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Speaker 3: many thousand dollars that he gave her, and it's just

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Speaker 3: a stupid move, you know, and he didn't want to

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of like he's sending a mixed message.

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Speaker 3: I don't want anything to do with this, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I want to continue to be able to talk about

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Speaker 2: And well, what somebody has said is that it's because

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Speaker 2: or not, but it didn't say that. It was only

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Speaker 2: about her. It was not mutually exclusive, so it means

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Speaker 2: know if this is accurate.

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Speaker 3: It could be true because I get it. She's on

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Speaker 2: And especially alexis now coming on the show to talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she can't keep her mouth. But he on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he really wanted the seventy five thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't about just sticking it to her, right,

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Speaker 2: because I think he's probably still pissed about past things

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Speaker 2: that she said, like saying, oh, you know, I always

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Speaker 3: For him, it's not she's been pretty quiet between you

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Speaker 3: good money. He makes money too. You pay for a trip,

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Speaker 2: But I originally for that you actually do I do

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what money and I spend I know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I got.

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Speaker 3: To do But you don't want to bring that up.

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Speaker 3: You know that that's just like something that you do

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Speaker 2: But I think also so much was said last season,

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Speaker 2: There was a while their relationship was coming unglued. There

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Speaker 2: both parties, I think, have a lot of residual anger

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Speaker 2: these two are toxic together, they should be done. Let's

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Speaker 2: It's going to keep opening up. Of course, this next one,

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Speaker 2: it's Ryan and Jen went on this podcast called Date

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Speaker 2: Jay White, and Daniel White. Jen and I are truly

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Speaker 2: grateful for the opportunity to be on the amazing Date

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Speaker 2: Your Wife podcast. We loved the four of us kept

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Speaker 2: five who had previously been married, to share their experiences

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Speaker 2: We all know how reality TV can twist narratives to

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Speaker 2: They both seem genuinely connected and deeply in love. Our

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Speaker 2: conversation also covers the struggle and dealings of social media trolls,

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Speaker 2: media scrutiny, and public comments. I mean, I think, listen

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Speaker 2: their relationship play out. Their relationship whether I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: a little bit. They do seem to get along relatively well.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I like them together. I think they're really

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Speaker 2: So we'll see this. Next one is Taylor, who you

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Speaker 2: her own podcast. It's called Naked Truth Podcast. She states

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Speaker 2: that one of my Oscy housewife friends was getting out

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Speaker 3: Use it against me, because this is what I'm seeing

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Speaker 3: So that's I think what makes the difference. She's been

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Speaker 3: You're going to talk to them for hours and then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and because I mean long story short, we can

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is so true. Yeah, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: If you haven't like my life right exactly, I would say,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if that person isn't hired anymore, then they're

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Speaker 2: It starts where Gina and Jen go to Heather's at

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Speaker 2: First things First, why did they have to have on

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh. My other question is this

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Speaker 3: Entire It's not a metage. She's actually being great. I

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Speaker 3: until this, until this. Yeah, apparently she knew about it

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Speaker 3: They save it, save it. That's true, you know the show.

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Speaker 3: That's how it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think she saved it and then she you.

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Speaker 3: Know then but she saved it for Katie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she saved it. So then there would be drama

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Speaker 2: But then she could look like the good guy, right,

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Speaker 2: this into something that it's not. You saved this information,

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Speaker 2: you let it come out. Then you act appalled that

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Speaker 2: it came out. Just own it and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't have backed it. She shouldn't have acted that

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Speaker 3: that Heather would have brought it up to Katie, it

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Speaker 2: I think we'd probably already be done with this conversation now.

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Speaker 2: But what made this a bigger deal than it? Truthfully,

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Speaker 3: I thought, by the way that Terry said he loved it.

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Speaker 3: I thought he handled that so well. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they they're well oiled machines. They

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Speaker 2: Gina knew about it. Gina is now pretending like she is,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then we're getting some new comprofessional looks. These are

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Speaker 3: I agree, Why are they? Especially the hair, I mean

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Speaker 2: and Erica who that's like their natural sell right, that's

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00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: their character, that's that's the reality, that's who they are.

433
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: But I like Marasol on my show, Oh maybe Gerdy

434
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: mar Chanelle I on, there are certain women that that's

435
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: just who they are. They always are going to be

436
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: over the top. But then when it's when it's somebody

437
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: like me, if I try to come to the top,

438
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: I look like an asshole me too, And.

439
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: I kind of ridiculous, you know that was That's my

440
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: hardest thing. I hate the confessionals already, like having to

441
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: sit there in the hot seat and being questioned and whatnot,

442
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: so that for me already is un comfortable. Then you

443
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 3: put on top which you're gonna wear, and like the

444
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: hair and just like the whole thing, the whole look.

445
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: It just stresses me out. I just paid everything about it.

446
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're not dressed as who you are,

447
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: like in some capacity, it doesn't feel like unauthentic confessional,

448
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: like you can tell you you're uncomfortable in your own skin,

449
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: giving it, like I remember, you got to own it,

450
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: you got to own it. Yeah, because Gina and Shannon

451
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: both looked uncomfortable in their confessional looks.

452
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't even recognize Gina. Like I had to put

453
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 3: on my glasses when I was watching because I was like,

454
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: is that Gina a completely different look?

455
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: I Like, I think Gina is a beautiful girl, but

456
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: like I think she's beautiful to it.

457
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: I love her style. I mean I've seen her and

458
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: I always think she's very stylish, very pretty. But it

459
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: was just like that look, like whoever got did it

460
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: for her? Like it's not working.

461
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who knows. Maybe because they filmed it so

462
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: many times, maybe this was just an off one and

463
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: the next time we see her in the same look,

464
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: maybe it'll be toned down.

465
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully Tamos look like Tamra's like how she is,

466
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. She has a hair like

467
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 3: she wears it, her makeup, you know, her pretty dress,

468
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: like how she would. You know, I feel like you

469
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: need to be that person like you. I like to

470
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: be who I am on camera, just like how I

471
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: would dress like I'm not gonna look ridiculous because I

472
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: would never dress like that in my real life. Yeah.

473
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: And I think Heather always kind of looks like herself.

474
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: I think it does. I think Katie is really awesome. Yeah, Emily,

475
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: I think that it just whenever you try to be

476
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: a little too much, it comes off as a little

477
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: too much. Then Shannon goes to Katie's house. Shannon tells

478
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: Katie she admired her for standing up to Heather, and

479
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Katie shows Shannon the text proof about the paparazzi. Katie

480
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: thinks Gina is terrified of disappointing Heather. Katie gets a

481
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: point and loses a point in this one because she

482
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: gets a point for calling out Gina for being scared

483
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: of Heather, but then she loses a point for continuing

484
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: to show the screenshot of that terrible proof.

485
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: Text, which says, now it's who's gonna say that? Who's

486
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: gonna actually tell her? Like put it away, Like it

487
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything if you're not proving your point.

488
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: Like all you wrote back was yes, Like all the

489
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: person wrote back with yes. You could have texted that

490
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: to anyone in their mother and they could respond to yes,

491
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: Like she could have texted that to me and I

492
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: could have given my opinion. This proves fucking nothing.

493
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: I agree, But do you like Shannon and Katie together?

494
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: Does that seem like natural to you? Like? Did you

495
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: like that? Like their friendship and you found friendship?

496
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: I think that this I thought was a very good

497
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: episode for Katie.

498
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: I thought so too.

499
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: I appreciated Katie and Jen at the end kind of

500
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: just gossiping and talking like they're whispering back and forth

501
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: during the drama. I liked Katie with her daughter when

502
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: she was trying on different clothes and the daughter saying like, yeah,

503
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: if you want to go to impress wear the blah.

504
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: Blah, Botega. Yes, yeah, No, I like it too. You know,

505
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: I always liked her since the beginning. I thought she

506
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: was a good addition. But we have to give the time,

507
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: which is like what we said, you really just can't

508
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: judge by one episode, and I feel like the audience

509
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: always does that, And that's why I hate about social media,

510
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: that the audience just like watches one episode and there

511
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: they are on Instagram, you know, making the comments and

512
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: attacking and it's usually negative. And yeah, and you just

513
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: have to give people a chance. And I thought it

514
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: was a good episode for her too. And I did

515
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: love seeing Katie and channing together. I thought it was

516
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: like real, genuine and I think they're getting.

517
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: To know each other and I appreciated it. I liked it.

518
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: But then Tamra and Emily going a walk. Tamer says

519
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Jin can't sit at home and look at her empty

520
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: bank account. Then Tamor says it's self induced like Shannon situation,

521
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: and then Tamar thinks Gina is done with Katie. This

522
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: is where we kind of get We're starting to get

523
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: more storyline about what's happening here, and I think it's

524
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: it's foreshadowing what's going to happen at this dinner.

525
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: I agree, because then the dinner happens.

526
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: And all hell breaks loose. Then we get Emily and

527
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: Shane celebrating their anniversary. Shane has made the talking about

528
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: Shane has made zero effort to improve his health. Then

529
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: they the two ask each other fifteen year questions, if

530
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: you could go back, would you still marry me? Shane

531
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: says yes. Emily said she'd marry Charlie Hunnam. You know what,

532
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: he's hot. Then Emily asked what nice things he says

533
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: about her. Shane says he always tells the kids that

534
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 2: she's the best mom. Shane upgraded Emily's engagement ring, and

535
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: then Emily gives Shane the boudoir for it. But this

536
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: is what we need to talk about about the gifting

537
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: of the photo. I think the photo is beautiful. I

538
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: think it's great, but I almost died when I saw

539
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: it was in children's wrapping paper.

540
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: I didn't even see that, no way, But that's probably

541
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: all she found, right. She probably thought he would have noticed.

542
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: He was going to be so eager to open it.

543
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's funny.

544
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: But I was like, is this from your six year

545
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: old's birthday party? Like, what's going on?

546
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: Left over wrapping paper? She that's so funny.

547
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: But also her reaction was a little bit small when

548
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: it came to getting her ring, and I was like,

549
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: did she know this was coming?

550
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: Well? I mean sometimes you know, because you know he's like,

551
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: you know, calling the jeweler, or you know there's some

552
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: kind of activity going on at home, or that they

553
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: talk about it or whatnot. But yeah, the ring was beautiful.

554
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: I think they're so cute together.

555
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: I think because I think that Shane has had a

556
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: real come up on this show. I think everyone has

557
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: learned to appreciate that his like dry personality is actually humor.

558
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: And I think they're I really think they're a good couple.

559
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: And I think I really enjoy watching them. They have great,

560
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: you know, dynamics to take the way. They're friendly. They're friendly,

561
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: they're sweet to each other, they laugh.

562
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: They're also so different, but I think they compliment each other.

563
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: I like them together, but that also just goes to

564
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: show what can happen after a couple of seasons on

565
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: a household, as you see completely different sides of you.

566
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the men make it that far, yes.

567
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, most of them don't. The real unmarried wives of

568
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Yes Any franchise. Right then, Gina and Katie get lunch.

569
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: Katie says she felt abandoned by Gina taking Heather side.

570
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: Gina says she had her back by telling her not

571
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: to bring it up. I mean she told her not

572
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: to bring it up on camera. So Gina says Heather

573
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: is mad at both of them and she should have

574
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: had Heather's back. More, Katie gets emotional, saying how she

575
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: values Gina. Katie is worried everything she told Gina will

576
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: be held against her. It's not Gina's best episode. But

577
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: also when Katie starts.

578
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: To you don't think this is a good scene though,

579
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: like between them, like you know, at this point, I

580
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: feel like Gina's realizing that shed up with Heather, and

581
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: she's trying to tell her, Listen, you know, I'm not

582
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: going to have your back now because what I did

583
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: was wrong and I should. You know, I should have

584
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: been a better friend to Heather, and I told you

585
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: enough to say it. I think, what did she kind

586
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: of redeems herself.

587
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought she was kind of coming

588
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: in pretty hard on Katie, knowing good and well. This

589
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: is Katie's first season she could have advised her not

590
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: to bring up such a thing, you know, like, but

591
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: instead kind of made it more of a drama and

592
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: then wanted to be the hero in this aspect. But

593
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: then it isn't until Katie starts crying that Gene is like,

594
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: oh shit, I may have pushed this too far.

595
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see that Katie was really hurt.

596
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm sure, I mean, we all live this.

597
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure Katie was like, oh, shoot, this is what

598
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: I thought I was sing, you know, like whatever she's new.

599
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: What'd you think about the Shannon and her dad Jeane

600
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: getting lunch together?

601
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I like, first of all, I was

602
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: happy to see that. He's all I remember and watch

603
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: these shows, and I don't have my parents, so when

604
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: I saw her with her dad, it brought me a

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: lot of joy. I don't know what kind of relationship

606
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: she has with her father and how much involved you know,

607
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: how much she wouldn't bother your father, you know, since

608
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: he's you know, an older person. You know, I don't

609
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: know his health. But so I was kind of like, wow,

610
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: they have a good relationship, you know, at least you know,

611
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: you know, he knows what's going on. I don't know

612
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: whether that's good or bad, you know, when you're an

613
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: older person. But I was happy to see that she

614
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: did have, you know, her father, she'd have this conversation

615
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: with her father. I wasn't surprised by her father's reaction

616
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: as far as like, you got to fight this guy

617
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: because he's being a dad, he's protecting his daughter. And

618
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: no matter you know, how old Shannon is, it's always

619
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: going to be like his baby girl whatever. So you know,

620
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, I like the scene, I really do,

621
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: you know. I think when we're in hard in hard times,

622
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, we turn to our parents, and she's very

623
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: lucky that she has her dad.

624
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Well, she also in this scene she shares that she

625
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: has to get a breathalyzer for her car, and then

626
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: they talk about the drinking and she says she's going

627
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: to be limiting herself to to drinks. She says that

628
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: when she was with drawn, they drank constantly and she

629
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: was miserable.

630
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: And by the way, her dad was drinking too, like

631
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: a big glass of wine.

632
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Well that her confessional actually did make me laugh when

633
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, I mean in the eighties, there

634
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: was just a big bottle of Chabie on the right.

635
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: I remember that bottle. I think it was like in

636
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: every household.

637
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: I mean the same way that like our parents would

638
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: smoke sins.

639
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: They way to drop this off at school? Yes, like

640
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: absolutely carpool right, Like.

641
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: That's just how it was. But I do think that,

642
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: you know, a big point is when drinking becomes a

643
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: mode of coping.

644
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: But but is she really an alcoholic? I still don't

645
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: know that. I mean, just because you get a DUI

646
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're an alcoholic. I am very aware of

647
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: the dui that was dumb, irresponsible. But sometimes you know,

648
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: people will have two or three drinks only and unfortunately

649
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: they get behind the wheel and they do kill somebody

650
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: or kill themselves or get her or whatnot and go

651
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: to jail. I get that. But just because do you

652
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: have you get a DUI, does that make you an alcoholic?

653
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: Like That's what I'm not understanding here.

654
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: I think the I have two thoughts on this. I

655
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: think I'm never going to say somebody's an alcoholic or

656
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: not an alcoholic. I can't make that judgment call, but

657
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: I can give facts. It has been brought up since

658
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: her very first season by her kids, her friends, her

659
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: ex husband, And I think also another point we need

660
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: to make is Shannon seems to blame John for her drinking,

661
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: and Alexis is insinuating that John drank because of Shannon,

662
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: And it just seems like nobody wants to accept account

663
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: of doing right. And I think that is a problem,

664
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Like you can't blame like, if I'm going to drink

665
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: too much tomorrow, there's no one else to blame but me,

666
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: of course not.

667
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: We're like grown outs adults and we have their choice,

668
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: so that there's no you can't blame anybody. I mean,

669
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: it is true that you're be influenced in a way

670
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: if you know, obviously, if you love to drink and

671
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: then your partner doesn't like to drink, then you're going

672
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: to drink probably a little less just because you like

673
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 3: to drink with somebody else, and in their case, they

674
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: both like to drink. But I think it's really immature

675
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: and stupid to blame each other when you're grown ass

676
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: adults and you have the choice, you know, of doing

677
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: it or not. Well, but I just want to know

678
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: issue or not. I mean, I'm just like all confused.

679
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, she likes to drink, but guess what,

680
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: so does everybody else, because everybody else drinks.

681
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: I think that is that is where some of the

682
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: women have reached their threshold, because they've been on the

683
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: show with her for many many seasons and had the

684
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: late night drunk calls and had all of that got it.

685
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: I think that's where it stems from. Do I think

686
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: that all the women on the show have probably drank

687
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: too much at one point or another and then's dumb shit? Sure?

688
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: But I think where some of them are like, listen,

689
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: this is a repeated thing that's happened over and over

690
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: and over again.

691
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 3: And unfortunately it never really got so much attention until

692
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: her UI. Then it becomes you know, more concerning. It

693
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: also becomes like a legal problem, and it just you know,

694
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: maybe she you have to hit like rock bottom so

695
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: she can like finally take control of the situation.

696
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Even though I have definitely seen scenes of Shannon looking

697
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: completely out of control while filming and you know, in

698
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: past seasons, I can say that so far this season,

699
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Shannon is coming across the best that she has on

700
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: a drinking front. Does that mean that I think she's

701
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: an alcoholic or not an alcoholic? I do not know.

702
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I do not know that answer. I do know that

703
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: if I was on a television show and I had

704
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: just gotten a DUI and all this shit was going down,

705
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: I write, take a break from drinking, And if I

706
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: couldn't take a break, I would probably start thinking about

707
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: why I couldn't take a small break from drinking. But

708
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: then Tama goes to Alexis's house. Tamra says, the Alexis

709
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: knows today is not the same as she has ten

710
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: years ago. Alexis then questions why she wasn't invited to Katie's.

711
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: Tamra says, Katie thought it would be disrespectful to Shannon.

712
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: Tamra says Shannon's life has been upside down for ten

713
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: years and says it's traumatizing for her and that Shannon

714
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: needs rehab. Alexis says Johnny barely drinks since they've been together.

715
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: Well, I don't believe that, and you know, I mean

716
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: the whole thing. You know, I'd like Alexis, but I

717
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: don't know why every word that comes out of her

718
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: mouth is john And now Johnny like, why, like, don't

719
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: you have anything else to say besides talk about him?

720
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: This is nobody cares. I mean honestly, this is I

721
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: just have a problem with that.

722
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Honestly, I really, I really think that Alexis thought she

723
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: was coming on and doing something here by the way

724
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: she's talking. But to me, it's just giving me the eck.

725
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: If your relationship and your life is so good with Johnny,

726
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: then quilp telling us all about it all the time,

727
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: like exactly, I get it. But a part of this

728
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: that really made me. I took my sadness about the

729
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: whole situation away. But when Tarama says, when you break

730
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: off an engagement, you usually give the ring back, But

731
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: how the fuck are you gonna give a face back?

732
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: Right? I gagged. That's why it was a better deal.

733
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: It's better than a ring for sure. Oh my god,

734
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 3: that was so funny. That was so good.

735
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my gosh, like we all know, just Tarma,

736
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: she did him good.

737
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: She did him good.

738
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: That was a good one. But then somebody is also

739
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: going to have to tell me who the how Alexi is,

740
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: because why is Alexis keep referring to see that way exactly?

741
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: So now it's Alexi and Johnny, right.

742
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: But like I really I'm trying, I'm really really trying

743
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: to go in one. I don't like when people talk

744
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: about themselves and the third person, even with a nickname

745
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: or without a nickname. But when I'm talking about myself,

746
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: I just say myself. I'm not like and then Teddy

747
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: was all or TJ or Teddy Joe or It's just like,

748
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: stop right, you're bugging me. I want to give you

749
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, Lexi. Lex Alexis right, but

750
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: you're bugging. You are bugging, and tamra Is says a

751
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: funny comment, but then Lexi's right back to just drilling

752
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: in her points. We're like, maybe take yourself a little

753
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: as serious and have a little fun with it. But

754
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: she's not.

755
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: No, she's not. She gets the dinner and she has

756
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: the same kind of behavior, so.

757
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doubles down. Then all the women, including Vicki

758
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: and Alexis, meet for Gina's dinner party. Alexis asks Katie

759
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: why she wasn't invited, Like, you already know why you

760
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: weren't invited, told you the attention, please. Katie says she

761
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: didn't want Shannon to feel underwater. Then Alexis says to Vicki,

762
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: look who's in my world now? I mean, I guess

763
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: Alexas I don't know. I guess that some people may

764
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: have chuckled at that line. I didn't.

765
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like Alexis has been watching these shows

766
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: and kind of like recording everything in her mind, and

767
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: she's like throwing all these lines and things like that happened, like,

768
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, in previous seasons when she was on, because

769
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: they flashed back to that moment where Vicky how to

770
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: use that line, so then she's kind of like using

771
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: it against her.

772
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, either Alexis has been watching these

773
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: shows and is like trying to come in with the

774
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: funny one liners but that are coming off not so funny,

775
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: or she's like has like a funny publicist that she

776
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: like is helping her come up with like the right liners.

777
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: Like you always know when there's the hell life that

778
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: has those like quippy little things to say, but then

779
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: they can't deliver it properly, so you're like.

780
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: Uh huh, but yeah, how did you feel about VICKI

781
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: showing up? Did you think that that was going to happen?

782
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes it's kind of like you feel it

783
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: or you know something's coming, but I really didn't, you know,

784
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: expect her to be there, But Tamra did make a

785
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: point that Shannon brought her, you know, to feel comfortable,

786
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: but comfortable, right, you know, she felt, you know, and

787
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 3: not a blame her. I mean, she had to walk

788
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: into like a shark tank, so she was like, Okay,

789
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: you can come with me. And maybe Vicky also wanted

790
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: to be part of it and have something to say

791
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: to Tamra as well, and just she wanted to be there. Yeah,

792
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: I mean I thought it was a good move by

793
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: the way.

794
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was smart to bring Vicky. I mean,

795
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: even though Vicky can drive me crazy, like she's definitely

796
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: entertaining television, she is, she's entertaining. Tamra says, Shannon brought

797
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: Vicky to do her dirty work, so she can. You know,

798
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it was a combination. I

799
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: think that Shannon knew she wasn't going to be able

800
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: to take this conversation, and she knew that Vicky wouldn't

801
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: be able to help herself.

802
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: So that's exactly what happened.

803
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also clearly the trace Amiga split had just happened,

804
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that.

805
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: It was perfect that it was uh huh, Yeah, I

806
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: felt that too.

807
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: But then This is where I feel like Vicky shouldn't

808
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: have done this. I don't think Vicky did Shannon en

809
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: of service here when Vicky says to Shannon, you have

810
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: permission to drink, like, just let it be. If she

811
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: wants to order a drink, she'll order a drink. But like,

812
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: now you're making a thing of it. Yeah, And then

813
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Tamra says, oh, yeah, an alcoholics should drink. But I

814
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: think we get a peek at you know, one you

815
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: can see that Tamra's upset and all of this triggers

816
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: her because of the years and years in the past.

817
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: But I think we get to see a peace hypocritical

818
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: Vicky because first she gives Shannon permission to have a drink,

819
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: and then when someone corrects her, she agrees and said

820
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: Shannon doesn't need permission, Like, which is it, Vicky?

821
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I just thought it was a stupid

822
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: common part of me because she set herself up to

823
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: obviously this happening. You know, somebody crossed them, will who

824
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: are you to give her permission? So like just the

825
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: comment was not necessary, could have been avoided, and and

826
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: then it made a thing of the drinking the drink

827
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: to bring that up obviously, Yeah, and.

828
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: I think that Vicky. I don't think Vicky's a dumb

829
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: dumb I think that she knew that she would she

830
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 2: should could say that and one of the girls would

831
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: dig in on her. She didn't know who it was

832
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: going to be, but somebody was going to get right then.

833
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: The girls were really uncomfortable though, when all that was

834
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: going on. You can see their faces like they were

835
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: very uncomfortable.

836
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: Well, I think that what if you were Shannon in

837
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: that situation, would you order to drink.

838
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: If I knew I wasn't an alcoholic, Yes, because if

839
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: you know, you should usually alcoholics. I mean, I don't

840
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: know about that, but what I've heard is that they

841
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: just can't have one drink because then want more drinking,

842
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: more drinking. So I don't have that problem. So if

843
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: I knew that I wasn't an alcoholic, I know how

844
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: to have just one drink. But again, I don't know

845
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: what her condition is, So I don't know that she's

846
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: just can't touch a drink because I'm not sure it'll

847
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: make her want to have more drinking and then it

848
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: becomes a problem or she's not doing it in front

849
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: of the girls because obviously she doesn't want them to know,

850
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: and she's like drinking, you know, secretly at our house.

851
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't have those details, so I don't know. I

852
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: disagree with you. They shouldn't have made it a thing.

853
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have made it.

854
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: I made that comment, But I also.

855
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: Think if Shannon were to go into this differently and

856
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: be like, listen, guys, do I realize that the past

857
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: ten years, I've had extreme highs and extreme loves, I

858
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: have drank too much. I've made mistakes. DUI was a

859
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 2: complete wake up call. And now my goal and please

860
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: tell me if I cross it is. I want to

861
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: be able to see if I can socially drink and

862
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: not try to.

863
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Maybe she'll do that one next episode.

864
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, just take ownership. Don't

865
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: blame your exxes, don't blame Johnny, don't blame this, don't

866
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: blame so and so, don't be mad at like, just know.

867
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: But I feel really uncomfortable when these things are like

868
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: on these shows, because you know, in other cities as well,

869
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: drinking has been a problem for some cast members, and

870
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: then they've made it that and then in your real life,

871
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: if you really have a friend that's going through something

872
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: like this, You're not going to talk to them like

873
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: that and attack them that way. You're really going to

874
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: want them to get help and you and you're can

875
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: put your differences aside. You know, there's sometimes in life

876
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: that even if you've had backstory, you know a lot

877
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: of like mess ups up and you really want to

878
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: help the person. You're not going to get a result

879
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: by like insulting somebody and calling them an alcoholic if

880
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: they really are an alcoholic. You know, you're going to

881
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: hurt them and they're going to get defensive and they're

882
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna not own it or fight you on. It's

883
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: just like it's just like hard to watch. For me,

884
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: it was like hard to watch, especially because I knew

885
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: there were friends before, so it just I don't know,

886
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: it makes me kind of sad and I'm surprised every

887
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: time they meet it's going to be the same thing.

888
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: So it starts getting like uncomfortable. So either Shannon owns it,

889
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: like you said, so, either Shannon owns it and says, listen,

890
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: you know, she comes clean. You know, maybe she'll do that.

891
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: I think, And but I think what ends up fucking

892
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: over the situation is during the five Months off where

893
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: Shannon continued like to call Tamra a drunk. So then

894
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: now you've got not only a friend that has been

895
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: pushed to their their end, now all of a sudden,

896
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: instead of taking accountability for your own actions, you're pointing

897
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: fingers yet another person that.

898
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: You said, right, yeah, she's projecting it onto her. Well

899
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: that's what a lot of people do, like when they're

900
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: at fault, you know, they're projected onto the other person.

901
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: Well what about you, Like, you know, you're a drunk too,

902
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: and that way you take off the attention offer yourself.

903
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: That happens a lot, like you know on our shows. Yeah,

904
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: you know obviously, because that's how you defend yourself. Which

905
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm like, you know, we're very like open

906
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: and we would rather just be open about it and say, listen,

907
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: this is what it is and that's it. She would

908
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: put it to rest. But by not admitting to it

909
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: or taking it a responsibility, you're going to keep coming

910
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: after her. Yeah.

911
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: And I think as a friend, and if you have

912
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: seen a friend drinking for years and years and years

913
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: and it's created lots of turmoil in their life, I

914
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: think you do have a right to put boundaries up.

915
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: Do I think the delivery was not ideal?

916
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: Yes, clearly it wasn't ideal.

917
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: It was not ideal. But I do think that's you know,

918
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: different personality types. And I think when you get hit

919
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: like your at your wits end and you feel like

920
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: you've ben push push push, that is some people's way

921
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: of handling is like, you know what, fuck this, I'm

922
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: going to throw it all out there because I'm done.

923
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: But then Jen and Katie acting like two little muppet

924
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: men in the theater during the whole dinner was like

925
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: the perfect balance for me during all of this.

926
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: I was so cute. Yeah, they were cute.

927
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: But then this is another hypocritical Vicky moment. Vicky stands

928
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: up and says she's sick of the fighting, and Emily

929
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: brings up Vicky posting about Tamra being a trader, and

930
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Tamra says she didn't feel comfortable doing a show after

931
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: Shannon crashed her car into a house drunk. Tamra says,

932
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm not a trader, I'm a faithful I just voted

933
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: you two out of my life. And then Vicky says

934
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Shannon went to rehab and Tamra says it was therapy.

935
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: Shannon says she couldn't drink in her program. Tamra says,

936
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: that's a lie. I think I love Emily's ability to

937
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: call people on their shit, whether they're friends or not.

938
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: She goes from disagreeing with Tamar on Shannon's habits to

939
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: defending Tamra against Vicky No more Gomblson Like. Then Vicky

940
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: goes up and does this whole speech about Jesus Christ

941
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: and follower and the blah, well, I'm.

942
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: Saying faith and we have to you know, support each

943
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: other and we have to be here for the women.

944
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's kind of like against like a lot

945
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: of her behavior in the past. But you know, maybe

946
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: she did have like that Kumbaya moment, like at that moment,

947
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you have to be like for us,

948
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: you know, like that to that point that you're like,

949
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 3: you know, what, what are we doing? But it was fake.

950
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: I thought that it was kind of real. I mean,

951
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't think it. It didn't seem fake to me.

952
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Vicky. If you no longer want any drama in your life,

953
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: if you want to lure you there, then why the

954
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: hell are you there? And if you're there solely to

955
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: be a good friend to Shannon. We already fucked that

956
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: up by bringing up the drink in front of the table,

957
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: So I'm.

958
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: Right your case, that is true.

959
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then Tamra questions why Shannon had to pay

960
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: for everything, but John took seventy five k from him?

961
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Then this is all. This is fine now, But then

962
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: Alexis the receipts, yes, part for the facelip, part for

963
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: the loan, you know, I mean.

964
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 3: John has been to me like Lenny on our show.

965
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't with this young man anymore. I mean,

966
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: it's it's really like the whole story is like about him,

967
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy.

968
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: But at least if it was Lenny, Lenny could have

969
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: done the facelift.

970
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Right.

971
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: Do you think he's gonna want all of Lida stuff back?

972
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy. But yeah, but you know

973
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like the same John thing, the

974
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: same John, because that's all comes out of Alexis's mouth.

975
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: And what are the receipts? The fact that he gave

976
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: her a check or wire to her account, we already

977
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: know denying that exactly, She's saying, yes, he gave me

978
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, it's not saying but you know what's

979
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: a gift? Yeah, and I've given him a lot of

980
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: things too, So you know what we're done. We're equal.

981
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: That's it.

982
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: Then Shannon leaves the right.

983
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: I really don't want Shannon to give him back the money.

984
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: I really don't. I'm telling you the truth.

985
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Why I think the courts are going to make those

986
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: decisions not because.

987
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: She's a housewife I love. Because she's a housewife and

988
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: all the judges and legal people hate reality TV stars

989
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 3: and believe me, mark my words, because there's no agreement there.

990
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: They're not even It's not like I said verbally, because

991
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: you know, verbal contracts can have you know, some sort

992
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: of could be binded legally, but that's not the case.

993
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: And this is this is a PSA at all houseld I.

994
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: Hear say, she'd say, I mean, who cares? I mean,

995
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: you don't know, you weren't there, You're.

996
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: If you've been on Housewives multiple years, you can get

997
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: free facelifts from good surgeons by just posting. So I'm never.

998
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: Gonna say you can go to jail.

999
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Like did you you know do a trade like I

1000
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: have my neckflip. I posted about it.

1001
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: We're good, I'll know money they we need to talk.

1002
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then Alexis tells Vicky there's more than what

1003
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Shannon has told her. Either way, that was money well spent.

1004
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: But then some of the women are like, we didn't

1005
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: even know she had a facelift, which goes back to

1006
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: like Shannon giving that's a compliment.

1007
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: No, but that's a compliment. Well, they didn't know she

1008
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: had a facelift because it looks so natural and it

1009
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: looks so good. Yeah, you don't have a facelift and

1010
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: look like somebody else, a look like the formed person.

1011
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: So she looks so good, she looks so natural. So

1012
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: they didn't know she had to face it. So to me,

1013
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: that's a compliment not knowing that you got to face it.

1014
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: You should want to look natural.

1015
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Then Sannon says she could release something

1016
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: worse about John, proving he's a monster. Shannon says she

1017
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: can't say anything since he file a lawsuit. Tamer tells

1018
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: Vicky she wasn't the reason she backed out of Trace

1019
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Amiga's it was Shannon. Vicky says Tamar needs to support her.

1020
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: Tammer says Vicki is enabling her and she needs help

1021
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: with her drinking. And then Alexi Alexis says, lie, her

1022
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: face needs to stop talking. Emily thinks Alexis is doing

1023
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: herself a disservice by being John's defender. And then Vicky

1024
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: tells the women this is disgusting and they not all

1025
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: need to be kind to one another as women of faith,

1026
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: and then Heather and Emily agree that's hypocritical. So do

1027
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: the editors because then they show all this, but also

1028
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: and one last point and then you can you go.

1029
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: But if Vicky really didn't want to be about the

1030
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: drama when she saw Shannon walk away from that table upset,

1031
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: I would have.

1032
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: Walked with her.

1033
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: I would have waked her.

1034
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I did that with Marisol. I had a

1035
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: similar situation like that, and I was I wanted to

1036
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: stay because I was not afraid, and I was like,

1037
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 3: I can stay here. But I left after Marisol because

1038
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: Marisola wanted to leave and she felt uncomfortable, and I

1039
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: went with my friend and I want my friend. And

1040
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: that's what Biggie should have done. She stayed there just

1041
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: because she wanted to be part of the trouble and

1042
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: kind of like have a moment. And then just after

1043
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: she said everything just walked out and encouraged them all

1044
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: to be friends and loving and kind and have faith.

1045
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: I was like, what it is.

1046
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: Bullshit, Like you stayed here because you wanted to get

1047
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: a reaction out of Alexis and Tarmera and whoever else.

1048
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: I did like that you saw, you know, the little

1049
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: conversation between Tamra and VICI you know where Tamra explained.

1050
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that it made it any better,

1051
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 3: but you know, I thought that was I think they.

1052
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Just all have such a long history and they know

1053
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: so much about each other, and they know, you know,

1054
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly. And I think

1055
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: that's why we've loved watching these this friendship throughout the years. Yes,

1056
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: but I think now is you know, it really is

1057
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: hard when you see people heading their breaking point.

1058
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean I feel maybe Vicky and Tamrock

1059
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: can come together and if they really do love and

1060
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 3: care for Shannon and she does have a problem with drinking,

1061
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: that they could help her.

1062
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: But I think it's really hardy gone the other way.

1063
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: Vicky is now doubling down on tam Like it's just

1064
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be so biased, but it's like

1065
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: I think at this point the trace of megas is

1066
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: a toxic three so done.

1067
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, we don't want that. We don't want

1068
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: a three someme to be toxic.

1069
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: So no, yeah, no, I mean only only good threesomething, right,

1070
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: But I am yeah. I think I think the biggest

1071
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: issue in closing is Vicky thinks Shannon can drink and

1072
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: Tarmor doesn't. So I think they're not going to agree

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Speaker 2: on that point. But I also it.

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Speaker 4: Also, by the way, if I were Shannon, I would

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Speaker 4: leave those scenes and I would just like drink a

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Speaker 4: whole bottle of tequila because honestly, like you know what

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Speaker 4: that is to be like, not seeing with those women

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Speaker 4: and they're attacking you and telling you things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think these women are driving Shannon to drink.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 2: But I think also Shannon can just say what she

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Speaker 2: wants to do on her own to the group and

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Speaker 2: say where she is and what she's doing, and then

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Speaker 2: they don't have the option to comment on it. If

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Speaker 2: you comment on yourself and you make a declaration on

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Speaker 2: where you are and say to your friends, guys, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know I've.

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Speaker 3: Done one hundred you have to own it, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not ready.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see. I think it's definitely heating up.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely heating up.

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Speaker 3: It is I'm having fun watching now, my.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I know we're hooked. We're hooked. I'm taking notes,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. All right, thanks you guys for tuning

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Speaker 2: in to another episode of The Tatoo Cheese, and thanks

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Speaker 2: for all your hot takes

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Speaker 1: Mhm