1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Wait, actually it's this is the b a q a 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: A the b a q a which to say the 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: b a q a with tiffin a the b a 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: q a eight no man day the b a. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: Q a just may Okay, Hey, I am back in 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: this too. Manday's not here today, but that's okay. 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: I got you. 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All right, so let's start with dum. 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let me see who's this. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: Oh hold up, it looks like we have two dudes 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: in the STU today. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna start with Rob. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Hey Rob, Rob says, Hey, ladies, I'm a fan of 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: you both. By the way, my sister who by way 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: of my sister who encouraged me to listen to your podcast. 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Shout out to Robin or Okay, see what your parents 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: are there, Robin, Robin. 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: I love it. 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoyed the topics, and I have learned a 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: lot so far. 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: We love that. 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: I had a serious question pertaining to debt management. I'm 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: currently twenty eight and I work for the financial industry 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: and I'm making good money. 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: However, I have. 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: A ton of debt due to poor decisions and being taken. 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Advantage of my family. 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, this debt has been lingering for years, 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: and recently my wages were garnished. Okay, I can't afford 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: that at the moment, in addition to repayment of my 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: student loans beginning in October, because y'all know, know the 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: goopid told the president we got to stop paying okay, 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: the student loans that he paused, those payments that he paused. 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: She says, I'm actively seeking an attorney to explore options 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: to stop garnishment and how to manage to eliminate other 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: existing debts. I saw something pertaining to bankruptcy, and it 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: looks like it may be extremely helpful, but I'm horrified 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: at how it could potentially affect my credit, especially when 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm working in the industry that pays attention to that 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: when it comes to promoting. Do you guys have any 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: knowledge about bankruptcies or any other alternatives to debt management 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: when it's gotten pretty bad? 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Thanks? Rob, Well, Rob. 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: First, I want to say I'm so sorry that you've been, 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: you know, taking advantage of by some family, you know. 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: Good on you for acknowledging that, you know, sometimes you 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: make mistakes and we're here as a result of that, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: and those things happen because Shah I have been there, 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: done that, literally. 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Wrote the book about it. 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So I just want to acknowledge that first and foremost, 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: and I would say. 68 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: I want you to be very clear when you file 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: for bankruptcy. 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: Is not easy, guy, is not as easy as it 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: used to be because when you because there are like 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: two ways that you could file for bankruptcy, Chapter seven 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: and chapter thirteen. So bankruptcy as we know it gives 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: you the opportunity to pay down a portion of your 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: debts over time or have some of them eliminated entirely. 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Right. So, either way, when you. 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: Declare bankruptcy, it grants what's called an automatic stay, which 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: basically means a block on your debts to keep creditors 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: from trying to collect. They can't deduct money from your 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: bank account, they can't go your wages, they can't go 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: after other assets potentially, and so you you'll have time 82 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: to work with the courts and your credits to determine 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: what the next steps look like. That's what happens when 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: you when you declare bankruptcy, right, and so the two 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: main types of like I said, individual are Chapter seven 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: in chapter thirteen. So Chapter seven bankruptcy is what they 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: often like when you think about following for bankruptcy, they 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: sometimes will call it liquidation bankruptcy because for in order 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: to chile for chapter seven, you're gonna likely need to 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: sell off some of your assets so that when you 91 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: can pay back some of the people. So let's just 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: say you had a house and a car, and you 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: had jewelry and you had you would literally they would 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: leave you with something because they know you have to live. 95 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: But they would say, basically. 96 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: You belong to me. 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: Now I'm the captain, now you know. So Chapter seven 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: can be very aggressive. So it depends on what state 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: that you're in. It's going to determine like what assets, 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: like you're retiring an account. Maybe like I said, I 101 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: know I mentioned your house in your car, but some 102 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: of them are exempt from liquidation depending on your state. 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: So you would check with an attorney depending on your 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: state to find out what you'd be allowed to keep. 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: If you were considering chapter seven, Chapter thirteen, you don't 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: actually need to worry about selling off and if your 107 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: property instead, they're your debt would be reorganized so you 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: can pay them off partially or in full for the 109 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: next three to five years. So the thing is the 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: benefit of chapter seven, if there is a benefit, is 111 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: that if you are willing to liquidate whatever up to 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: whatever the state allows, those debts that you owe, you 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: no longer owe. Chapter thirteen is you're actually not you 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 3: won't not owe. It will just reorganize in a way 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: to set you up to pay off, you know, in 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: the next three to five years. 117 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: So but keep in mind if you. 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: Don't pay, like, if you don't align with the payment plan, 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: they can come after other stuff like if we're chapter thirteen. 120 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Now, the issue to your point, Rob, is if you 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: your credit is going to be for the most part, 123 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: severely affected if you especially chapter thirty, chapter seven, you know, 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: and so it's going to stay on your credit report 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: for up to ten years. 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: And so Chapter thirteen. 127 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: Although it will affect your credit like as well, it's 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: viewed a little bit more favorably because you're still paying 129 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: off at least some of your debts versus just getting 130 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: them like wiped away. The bankruptcy still stays on your 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: credit for a very long. 132 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Time, very long time. 133 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: And now here is the thing. Bankruptcies are publicly filed. 134 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: They're considered public record. Now doesn't mean that you know 135 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: they're going to be like sending a letter to your mama. 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: But oftentimes I think it was like I I read 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: a statistic it's like up to twenty nine percent of 138 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: employers do check your credit. 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: And especially I'm not gonna lie to Rob. 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: You're in the financial industry, so filing for bankruptcy because 141 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: you're in the financial industry and you're very young, you 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: didn't say how much you owed makes. 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Me feel a little bit new this. 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Because although you have a job, so it might not 145 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: keep you from a job. 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I've actually heard people. 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: I remember a friend of mine was working like a 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: trucking company and couldn't get a promotion because what she 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: did was she handled, like I guess accounts and things 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: like that, and they felt like, if you have bad credit, 151 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: you might be more likely to steal, and so she 152 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: couldn't get a promotion until she got her credit score up. 153 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: I had another friend who really my mentee. She just 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: got to graduated law school and they let her know 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: because she had an internship. Until you get your credit 156 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: score up, we can't hire you as an attorney. And so, 157 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: especially in your space, I cannot see how filing for 158 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: bankruptcy is not going to affect your ability to climb 159 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: the corporate ladder. 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: And like I said, that's this on your credit for 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: ten years. 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Rob, you young, sir, You're young, so I'm not here 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: to tell you what to do, but I'm here to 164 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: tell you what I would do, which is I follow 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: for bankruptcy. You know, like unless I owed a million dollars, 166 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: ten million dollars something crazy, then I'm like that makes sense. 167 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: People be following for bankruptcy for some old ten thousand dollars. 168 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: No not you know and you you know you got 169 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: seven kids and you're eighty five. No, Rob, you're twenty eight. 170 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure you don't own a million or a million dollars. 171 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: And so there are other alternatives to follow for bankruptcy 172 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: that won't curtail your ability to make money. 173 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: You want to know something some of them? Here you go. 174 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: There's credit counseling right there are literally certified nonprofit credit 175 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: counseling agencies that help you basically similarly due to what 176 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: Chapter thirteen would do, which is helped to reorganize your 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: dat One of my favorite is write this down, Rob, 178 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 3: you got your pen NFCC dot org. Actually gonna be 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: just like typeing in so I can't remember, I can't 180 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: look at it. N f n FCC dorg. 181 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: And they are the wh do they call themselves? 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: They are that I believe they're the National except National 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Foundation for Credit Counseling and I like them because one 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: they it's a nonprofit organization and they have partners in 185 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: every state that these certified nonprofit credit counseling agencies in 186 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: every state, so you can find one in your state 187 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: then and from what I remember the last time, I mean, 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if they do now, but it would 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: be like they used to do, like a sliding scale, 190 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: like helping you anywhere from free to whatever you can afford. 191 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still the case. 192 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: You would have to obviously call connect with the counselor 193 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: you can connect like VA. You know, you can call them, 194 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: you can connect with them online. But that is my favorite. 195 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: I have never heard anything bad about them. I love 196 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: the NFC and I've been recommending them for like the 197 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: last ten years and everybody always comes back and says 198 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: thank you so much. So credit counseling is a is 199 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: an alternative. Also two, the debt consolidation. That's a second alternative. 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: So debt consolidation basically means like looking at your debt, 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: like listing it in a way that you can kind 202 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: of see all you owe, who you owe, what percentage 203 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: you know, what's your interest rate, all of that, and 204 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: then ask yourself. Like say, for example, you've got three 205 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: or four credit cards, depending I don't know what your 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: credit score is looking like now, but seeing if you 207 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: could qualify for either a credit card or a loan 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: that's less than the average of the interest rate. So 209 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: for example, let's just say you have three credit cards. 210 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: One is a ten percent interest rate, when is twenty 211 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 3: one is fifteen? Right, And because your credit score is 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: pretty decent, you're able to either get a credit card 213 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 3: or to get a loan from ideally like a credit union. 214 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: That says we can give you an interest rate of 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: eight percent or whatever. 216 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, that's less than what I'm paying now, 217 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: and that loan you used to pay off the three 218 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: or four people that you ow, oh, and you're just 219 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: paying this one person now, this one credit union, you know, 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: or sometimes people do this with roll of transferring balances 221 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: to a credit card you can roll over, you know, 222 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: sometimes some cards, if you have excellent credit, we'll say 223 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: you pay a zero percent interest rate for like, you know, 224 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: twelve months, fifteen months, and so you're literally all the 225 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: money that you're paying goes directly to the card and 226 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: not to any interest. But the key is you got 227 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: to read the fine print because sometimes they have a 228 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: three percent transfer fee, you know, and then on top 229 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: of that, you want to make sure that there's no 230 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: if you don't pay us back by the end of 231 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: twelve months, you have to pay all the interest that 232 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: we didn't that we didn't charge you. 233 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: So consider that consolidation. 234 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: That's getting a loan from a credit union, ideally a 235 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: credit union that's going to provide you with a better 236 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: interest rate. If you're not a member of a credit union, 237 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: google credit union near me, you can someplace you can 238 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: join today and apply today. Consider balanced transfers, you know, 239 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: to like if you have multiple credit cards. So that's 240 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: another alternative. And so like also to a debt management plan. 241 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: So if you go to that, like I said, NFCC 242 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: dot org, oftentimes they have something called the DMP, which 243 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: is a repayment program that a certified credit counsel can 244 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: organize for you. And so that's like, you know, that's 245 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: maybe like one point, you know, instead of like the 246 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: third alternative, This is an alternative that like kind of 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: tax onto getting credit counseling, like literally they will not 248 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: only oh like it's not just that they're on. 249 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: Paper, say Hey, Rob, here's the way you should pay 250 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: off your debt. 251 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: They will reach out to your creditors for you, negotiate 252 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: better repayment terms, negotiate lower interest, and then say, okay, Rob, 253 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: we've done all this work. 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Here's how much you have to pay who and when? 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Okay? 256 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: And then like, lastly, you can do debt settlement or 257 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: debt relief, you know, and so what that means. And 258 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: I've done this, so I owed. I remember one time, 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: like child, like, I dyed my hair. I did not 260 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: know I was alert to a black guy. And when 261 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: I say my face blew up, it was a hot 262 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 3: air ballode. I mean my face blew up. It looked crazy. 263 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: And I was broke at the time, and I was 264 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: like At first, I was like, oh, it's just a 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: little puffy, and then it just kept growing bigger and bigger, 266 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't have any money to 267 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: go to the doctor, to the hospital. My mom was like, so, 268 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: do you want to wake up tomorrow or not? And 269 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: so I went to the hospital. 270 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Child. 271 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: They gave me the equivalent of a Bendadryll and a drip. 272 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: I was so mad. Eight hundred dollars later, I was like, Dad, 273 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't have eight hundred dollars. So I just ignored them, 274 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: and they were calling and calling and sending letters. I 275 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 3: just ignored it because. 276 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: I was scared. It was like maybe fifteen ten, fifteen 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: years ago. 278 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: And then my sister, who worked in the medical field, 279 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: was like, girl, you can negotiate for less. 280 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: You know, what do you have. I was like, I 281 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: don't know. 282 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: I have like three or four hundred dollars. And so 283 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: I called the hospital back and was like, I don't 284 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: have eight hundred dollars. I have three hundred dollars. And 285 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: they were like okay. They were able to offer me 286 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: a settlement for less money because I said I had 287 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: this in lump some and so you can actually negotiate 288 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: with your creditors and say I don't have this, but 289 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: this is what I can do. The more that you 290 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: can pay in a lump sum, the more likely they 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: are to say, yes, you know, no one wants to 292 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: hear I don't have ten thousand, but I can pay 293 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: you two thousand over the next two years. Now they 294 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: want to hear I don't have ten thousand, but I 295 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: can pay you two thousand today. Does that make sense? 296 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: So you can like reach out and look. Now, now 297 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: that is gonna affect your credit score a little bit, 298 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: but it won't not like bankruptcy. Okay, so let's recap 299 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: some alternatives. Okay, credit counseling NFCC dot org. Debt consolidation. 300 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: That's either be a balanced transfer credit card or a 301 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: consolidation loan from like your favorite neighborhood credit union. A 302 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: debt management plan. This is a not just a plan 303 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: on paper, but a plan that a credit counselor will 304 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: help to negotiate with your creditors on your behalf and 305 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: then like on the last but not least because it's 306 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: still gonna affect your credit score or negatively, but debt 307 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: settlement like or you know, asking for debt relief. 308 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: Kay, I hope that was helpful. 309 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: Whatever, Yeah, because I know you know these things happen, 310 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: and you know we're not here to beat anybody up. 311 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: We're just here to offer solutions. 312 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: So we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna 313 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: come back and answer the second question from another dude. 314 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Okay, it's rain, and then hallelujah, it's rain. Let me stop. 315 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, we'll be back in black in a moment, so 316 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: we can pay some bills and I can answer your next. 317 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Question, and we're back and black and we are here. 318 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, you know Briann abishing typically 319 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: because you know me and many are two. Hey ladies, 320 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: let's usual your audience. But I don't know the guys 321 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: are representing today. You know, we answered Rob's question, and 322 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: now we have a question from Todd. I don't know 323 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 3: if that's your real name, but that's what you put 324 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: in the email. So child, that's your business. So Todd 325 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: as a listener, So let's see what Todd has to say. Hi, 326 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: Tiffany and Mandy, my name is Todd. I just wanted 327 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: to start off by saying I love the show. I'm 328 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: also a black man who enjoys listening. Yes, Tid, we 329 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: love a black man over here. Okay, I listened to 330 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: the audio experience all the time, and I'm a huge fan. 331 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: My question is about Whole Life insurance. I wanted to 332 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: know when you had remat Sethi in the still. Okay, 333 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: I see you taking on my language. He briefly touched 334 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: on whole Life insurance and it sounded like he was 335 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: against it. Likely he was because all of us with 336 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: CeNSE R. But we'll talk, We'll continue. But he didn't 337 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: finish a point he was trying to make about life insurance, 338 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: so I didn't want to assume anything. I was wondering 339 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: if you guys can continue that discussion, Well, probably not 340 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: with Remat, but I can continue the discussion. We'd love 341 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: to hear his thoughts and of course your thoughts on 342 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: whole life insurance or life insurance in general, as I 343 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: hear a lot of people say that it's a wealth 344 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: building tool. Ooh, Chad Todd, No one made me hot 345 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: up in here. So one I can almost guarantee you 346 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand percent that Remat was saying whole life 347 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: is whole trash because and you know, I've just heard 348 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: him say that, and quite honestly, us in the financial 349 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: space who believe in what's fair for y'all, that's what 350 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: we say. So I actually have a whole chapter in 351 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 3: my book, Get Good with Money about life insurance. So 352 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: there are two types of well, yeah, there's two basic 353 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: types of life insurance. 354 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Right. 355 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: There is term and term life insurance is issue for 356 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: a specific number of years, like for a specific timeframe, right, 357 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 3: and you pay a premium monthly, like, so you might 358 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: pay like, I don't know, for twenty years or whatever, 359 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: you know, like and then you get a payout a 360 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: death benefit that's guaranteed to your beneficiaries if you died 361 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: between that timeframe. 362 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: That's why it's called term. 363 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: But what I really want you to understand that term 364 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: life insurance is like regular insurance. Meaning think about when 365 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: you have insurance for your car. 366 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: It is term, right. 367 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: Because typically people get insurance for a car, it's annual 368 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: and you've renew annually. 369 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, like you. 370 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: Might pay monthly, but it's like if this is only 371 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: good for this year, and every year they reassess and 372 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: you pay right. So even though they make this big 373 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: differentiator like oh, what's term? No, No, I just want 374 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: you to think of every other insurance in your life 375 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: health insurance, dental insurance, petitan insurance, homeowner's insurance, of car insurance. 376 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: It's basically term, and the way is the same way 377 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: it works with these other insurances. If something happens and 378 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: you are fully paid up within the term, then a 379 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: payment is paid out. The reason why people get all 380 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: freaked out is because the thing that has to happen 381 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: for life insurance is for you to pass away. Don't 382 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: nobody want to talk about that. But here we're talking 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: about it. But like in cars, right, Like it's like 384 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: the other day. Literally, just yesterday, somebody hit my sister's car. 385 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: It was parked and some kid was driving a beag 386 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: out in his car. He got spooked and he hit. 387 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: You know, he was honest. You know, his insurance is 388 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: taking care of it. YadA, YadA, YadA. But essentially she 389 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: has insurance like he has insurance. She's gonna go through 390 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: his insurance. They're gonna pay because he has insurance for 391 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: the year that he pays for a likely monthly or 392 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: quarterly or whatever. I like to pay my insurance up 393 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: for the year, but you know you have up to 394 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 3: pay it monthly and it lasts for the year period. 395 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: That's term. It is very familiar insurance. It's the way 396 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: insurance works in every other area of our life. But 397 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: when it comes to life insurance, these tricky little insurance 398 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: companies have figured it out how to get you all 399 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: freaked out by also offering what's called permanent life insurance. 400 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: And so oftentimes permanent life insurance is called universal or 401 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: whole life. Whole life being very this is what you mentioned. 402 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: But what you're really talking about is permanent, and it's 403 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: not for a year. You pay it indefinitely until you're 404 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: no longer here. Now, the issue or the difference between 405 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: term and whole life is that one you know, once 406 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: the term of term is up unless you renew it 407 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: or whatever. 408 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: That's it. 409 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: And people say, when I didn't die in thirty years, 410 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: I just wasted my money. Which to that, I say, 411 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: when you didn't get in the car insurance this year? 412 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: Did you waste your money when my house didn't burn down? 413 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: Did you waste your money when my dog is still alive? 414 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: Did you waste your money on pet insurance when I 415 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: still have my teeth? Did you waste your money on 416 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: dental insurance? 417 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Like? 418 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: Come on, now, you know, like that's how insurance works. 419 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: It is there to protect you in case. But we 420 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: don't say it wasn't worth the money because I didn't 421 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: have the incident. But with life insurance, insurance companies have 422 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: gotten very good, especially insurance brokers who sell it have 423 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: gotten very good and making you feel bad for not dying. 424 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: Oh keep back, child, So what happens if you were 425 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: alive in thirty years? You don't waste your money, child? 426 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: Are you raising? 427 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: I want to be here in thirty years. But so 428 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: they pushed his whole life. 429 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: Now, the problem with whole life is that the expense 430 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: is not just that much more. I want you to 431 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: think about what happens when you fly. So I just 432 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: came back from from Europe. I went to London Paris, 433 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: and I went to the Amafi coast and I flew 434 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: business class, which is first class, and I use points 435 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: because anybody paying out of pocket. But when I looked 436 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: at the price, if I was going to fly economy, 437 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know, Like let's just say economy, I 438 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm just making up to London is eight 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Business Class to London is like, say. 440 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: Like four thousand. 441 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: I'm just making it up right that the difference is 442 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: not like eight hundred for economy sixteen hundred for business. No, no, no, no, 443 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: they make the difference astronomical. 444 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: So that way like it. 445 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: Because if it was just double, then everybody would just 446 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: be like I just figure out how to five. Business 447 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: is way more comfortable. It's similar to term and whole 448 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 3: life that term. I'll give you an example. I am 449 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: forty I'm about to be forty four this year for 450 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: forty year old, healthy woman who does not smoke for 451 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: a thirty year policy. Last time I checked, it was 452 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: like if I wanted a thirty year term insurance plan 453 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: life insurance plan. 454 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I think it was like forty bucks a month. 455 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: That's how much it would cost a forty year old 456 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: woman who doesn't smoke to get a thirty year plan. 457 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: Forty bucks a month for a million dollar plan. 458 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Sorry for clarity. 459 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: So if something happens to this forty year old woman 460 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: in the next thirty years, by the time she's seven, 461 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: if she is not here anymore, her family will get 462 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: a million dollars. That same woman who wants to get 463 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: a million dollar policy in a permanent whole life or 464 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: universal or whatever those are just like the same that's 465 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: calling it permanent. It's about a seven hundred and forty dollars, 466 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: so it's not even comparable. So it's like, what do 467 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: I get for paying an extra seven hundred dollars? 468 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: A hoodache is what you get? 469 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: People will say, well, you get it for life, for life. 470 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: The purpose of life insurance is not so you can 471 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: you can get it for life life. The purpose really 472 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: of life insurance is to protect your dependence for when 473 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: you can no longer be there for them financially now, 474 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: So meaning. 475 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: Thirty years should be enough. 476 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: Because if you have a child and by the if 477 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: you get life insurance for them the year that or 478 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: you get life insurance for yourself the year they're born, 479 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: and it's thirty years by the time they're thirty, the 480 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: assumption is this child can go on and take care 481 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: of themselves. 482 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Do you see what I mean? 483 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: So you know, like unless you have like a special 484 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: needs child that's gonna need that's gonna need looking after 485 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: for life, then you can talk differently with your financial 486 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: advisor about maybe whole life might be a choice. But 487 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: really for most people, term is fine. And the difference 488 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: that's seven hundred dollars difference. It's gonna make a difference 489 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: in lifestyle, it's gonna make a difference in your ability 490 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: to invest, it's gonna make a difference in your ability 491 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: to purchase like a home and pay for college. 492 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: That's seven hundred dollars. 493 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: Them insurance ages be just giggling all the way to 494 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: the bank, honey, you know, because they know that, like 495 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: it's so much money in their pocket. So I actually have, 496 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: like in the Bookicko of Money. So if you actually 497 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: have my book Gicker of Money, I want you to 498 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: go ahead on in the over and mosor mosy on 499 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: over to page two forty eight in the physical book, 500 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: and I have here. If an insurance broker says permanent 501 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 3: life insurance acts as a tax deferral because you put 502 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: money in and you can essentially take out a tax 503 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: free loan for the amount, and what I say is 504 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: child what you need to know that while that's true, 505 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean it's the best way for you to. 506 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Get a tax referral tax deferral. 507 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: You know, make sure you're already taking advantage of like 508 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 3: pre tax deferral accounts like your four win k on Ira. 509 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: You know, a permanent life insurance policy is not the 510 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: only tax planning strategy, and honestly, it's not even the best. 511 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: And it's the most expensive. So you can pay seven hundred. 512 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: Dollars to save what ten dollars of taxes like it 513 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense because they'll tell you own like it's 514 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: a it's a tax defral deferral strategy. But there are 515 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: other strategies that are way better and less expensive. 516 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Another one. 517 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: If the insurance broker says it's building value because it 518 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: has cash value, what you need to know is that 519 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: there are better ways. This is the number one way 520 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: they tell you it builds cast value. There are better 521 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: ways to build your wealth. Do some quick math. What's 522 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: the difference between what you would pay for term per 523 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: year versus the permanent policy with the same death benefit 524 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: right at the same pad amount. 525 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: You know what would that cost you? 526 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: The difference of amount, if you put that into the 527 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: stock market, that would be more than the cash value. 528 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: So if I put let's do let's. 529 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: Do some maid, I'm about to pull up, Let me 530 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: pull let me pull out my phone because you know town, 531 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: because the people be getting me hot when they be 532 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: talking about a whole life. Seven hundred dollars chiund times 533 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: twelve months equals eight thousand, four hundred. That's the difference 534 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: in that term policy I mentioned for a forty year 535 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: old black woman, a forty old woman, and you know, 536 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: for a term of a million dollar policy term versus 537 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: whole eight thousand, set, eight thousand, four hundred dollars, that 538 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: is the amount of money that that person can then 539 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: put into the market, and on average, the stock market 540 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: on the low end for the last thirty years has 541 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: yielded seven to eight percent. Really about ten percent, but 542 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: if we be keeping it real cute seven to eight percent. 543 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Do you want to know what the cash value like 544 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: the rate of return on that cast value if you 545 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: if you put that money that's seven hundred dollars instead 546 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: of the market that on the low end yields seven 547 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: percent in a whole life policy like. 548 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: This is according to consumer. 549 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: Reports, the average annual rate of return for a whole 550 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: life guarantee cash value is one point five percent. You 551 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: might as well put it in grandma's own mattress one 552 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: point five percent. Banks are giving more than that. You 553 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 3: literally can just put your money instead the set of 554 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: a whole life insurance policy into a savings account. Right now, 555 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: savings accounts are giving up to four percent, if not 556 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 3: more so that whole cast value that you get who 557 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: was cast value? 558 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Cats? 559 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: Right? 560 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: No in inflation which, honey, know what is the inflation rate? 561 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Now? 562 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: We're about to find out inflation rate USA USA rate. 563 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Of inflation. Let's see what's the inflation rate currently? Right now? 564 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: The bag the US the r inflation rate is three 565 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: point one eight, meaning your money is losing its value 566 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: at a little over three percent. So if they are 567 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: making you richer by one point five percent, but your 568 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: money is decreasing by three point eight percent, you losing money. 569 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Whereas if you put your money. 570 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: In the market and the market is generating seven to 571 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 3: eight to ten percent on average annually over the last 572 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: thirty thirty years or so, like you're going to you'll 573 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: be up like four percent because the market is generating 574 00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: say eight percent, and you are losing three percent due 575 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: to inflation. So the difference in that is five percent, right, 576 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: So that means you'll be up five percent. 577 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: But if Whole. 578 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: Life says we'll give you one point five percent, but 579 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: you're gonna lose three percent of inflation, that means you're 580 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: down one point five percent. 581 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, honestly. 582 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: That's why it irritates me so because I'm like that 583 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: whole cast value cash value. 584 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: You're not giving any. 585 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: Interest with cash value. That extra seven hundred dollars just 586 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 3: goes to people's pockets. That's why they be pushing it 587 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: so hard, because I mean, I've spoken to insurance agents. 588 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: The amount of money they make on Whole Life job. 589 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: It makes their whole life, and that's been at least 590 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: if they say you'll have this benefit that can provide 591 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: that you can provide to your children no matter what, 592 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: even if you don't have any other assets, they get 593 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: this life insurance policy from you. I want you to 594 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: know that this guarantee you comes at a significant cost 595 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: that most it doesn't make most sense for most people. 596 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: It comes at significant costs because yes, you will be 597 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: able to leave this money to your children, but what 598 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: about when your kids are alive. 599 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: I bet you that's seven. 600 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: Hundred dollars month would be more helpful for when you're 601 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: actually alive than a potential one day hopefully million dollars 602 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: if you pass away at eighty Does that make sense? 603 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: And who knows what a million dollars will be by then? 604 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: So I just hope that you understand that, like I 605 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: promise you. I mean, I can't speak for Remat, but 606 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: you can go ahead of Twitter and type in Remat 607 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: set the whole life, and I promise you will see 608 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: him lambosting it, lambasting you know, because I believe in 609 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: life insurance, you know, But I'm just saying that, like 610 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: you want, you know, life insurance is there specifically for 611 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: your earning years to take care of your dependence when 612 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: you're not here. 613 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: That's his core thing. 614 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: Now, certainly you can use life insurance to help boost 615 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: your family to grow wealth. 616 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example how I'm using it now. 617 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: So most people know that my husband passed away suddenly 618 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: from aneurism, like two years ago, and we had life insurance. 619 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: I had it, like, oh, I think I have like 620 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: a three million dollar policy because of like the budgetista 621 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: has done very well. We have property and all this 622 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: other stuff. So I wanted to make sure that, like 623 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, he worked for the city and I made 624 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: significantly more than him, and I wanted to make sure that, 625 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: excuse me, that if I was not here for whatever reason, 626 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, he can maintain the life that we've built 627 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: because you know, working for the city doesn't pay a 628 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: ton of money, right, and so he is no longer here, 629 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: and so he did have life insurance policies from his 630 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: job and personal ones and that have paid out to myself, 631 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: his family, and my stepdaughter. 632 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: So that was good he did that. 633 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: And so just so you know, too, you don't have 634 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: to have a lot of money to prepare, you know, 635 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: because his life insurance policy largely is making sure unless 636 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: of my bonus daughter doesn't have to worry about paying 637 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: for school and the money that I put up for too, 638 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: she doesn't have to worry about her first home. 639 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: So, like, you know, I am not anti. 640 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: Life insurance, like it was such a useful tool in 641 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: helping us, like I didn't need the money, but really 642 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: helping us want pay for, you know, funeral expenses, but 643 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: also too, making sure it did what it's supposed to do, 644 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: making sure that you're dependent your daughter, our daughter, you know, 645 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: doesn't have to worry about certain things that we would 646 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: have taken care of with him being here. With that 647 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: being said, my financial advisor said, Tiffany, you still have 648 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: this three million dollar policy. What you want to do 649 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: with you because Jarrell's not here? She said, you can 650 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: cancel it if you want to. Now, I can't remember 651 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: how much I'm paying for the three million dollars. I 652 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: want to say, maybe twelve hundred dollars for the year. 653 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember. 654 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: Don't get me to lie, but I can't remember how 655 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: much I'm paying, But the amount is fairly. 656 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: Nominal for my income. Now for me, I. 657 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: Said, let's keep it because I recently got it just 658 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: like a few years ago, and so I still have 659 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: thirty years on it and it doesn't hurt me financially 660 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: to pay, and it can be used as a tool 661 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: for my family so when I'm not here to set 662 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: them up for wealth. That's what you mean. Yes, it 663 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: is possible to use that as a tool, but I 664 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 3: don't pass that thirty years. If I'm still here, then 665 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: it's gone. You know, It's fine, it's gone. So what 666 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm doing with the policies that I still have, I 667 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: have two I believe, is that it is going I 668 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: have a trust that I created. It is going to 669 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: the trust is the beneficiary to the life insurance policy. 670 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: So it we'll go into the trust if something happens 671 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: to me, and then the trust has I have the 672 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: trust set up where the beneficiary is my mom, my dad, 673 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: if they're still here, my sisters, and my stepdaughter Melissa. 674 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: That along with the other assets, my businesses, money, blah 675 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: blah blah, all of that literally goes into the trust 676 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: and the trust knows what to do. It knows what's 677 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: what to leave Alissa, what to leave my parents if 678 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: they're still here, and whatever's leftover gets split evenly between 679 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: my sisters. 680 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: I have four sisters. 681 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: So I say all that to say that, yes, life 682 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: insurance can certainly be used in that way. Want it 683 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: coverage what it's supposed to cover, which is my dependence, 684 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: who depend on me within this thirty years, twenty ten, 685 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: whatever years, and then beyond that, if it doesn't harm 686 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: you financially, certainly you can think about keeping it on 687 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: like I'm keeping it on. But I hope that makes sense. Yes, 688 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: So I'm not you know, I'm not here to tell 689 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: you what to do, but I'm here to tell. 690 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: You, y'all whole life is a whole mistake. 691 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: And if you are a broker, go someplace else, please, 692 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: because I know you're like, oh, I. 693 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: Block. 694 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: You know, I don't be y'all be writing sometimes you'd 695 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: be writing a whole solio quick, I said, poor tink 696 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: tank because I don't the moment I read any sort 697 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: of like black. Now, if you have some constructive things, 698 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: certainly you know, because I don't get everything right. 699 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 700 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: This, this part of the book, one thing of when 701 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: I wrote Get You with Money, I made sure the 702 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: parts where I am not the expert in I am 703 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: not an insurance expert but you know what I did. 704 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: I literally hired. 705 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: An insurance expert to interview for this component, to go 706 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: through all parts of life insurance and why and in 707 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: the ins and out because I ain't want to just 708 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: be talking and so when you come at me, I'm 709 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: just saying, like, this is not just like what I 710 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: pulled from the air. No, no, no, I interviewed actually 711 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: a number of people were one expert in particular, like 712 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: why what is the difference, Why is it not better? 713 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Why shouldn't people get whole like the and so just 714 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: know that this is like a find a certified financial planner? 715 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: Who who who I tapped into for this section of 716 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: the book. Each section of the book has its own 717 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: expert the parts that I'm that's not my expertise. So 718 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: I don't have schooling in or whatever certificates in just 719 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: so you know, come from your mama, not me. Okay, 720 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: all right, So I hope that's helpful. Yeah, okay, I'm 721 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: Todd and Rob. We had a good time, if not 722 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: a long time. 723 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: All right. 724 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: So if you want your questions to be answered on 725 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: the Brando Vision podcast Brannobision Podcasts at gmail dot com, 726 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: the BA Podcast on Twitter Barnabisch and podcasts on ig 727 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: barnabischmpodcast dot com. Just contact us there and get your 728 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: questions answered. Until next time. 729 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: Goodbye, fail Awa, I do that, Ain't I do? I do? Tod? 730 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: You and you and you? 731 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 3: Goodbye Name that tune tweeted to me the bunch of 732 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: the stood Bye