Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm
Speaker 1: Rachel and.
Speaker 2: I'm Cheerity, and we are back with an episode.
Speaker 1: No guest episode, which are usually my favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we can just talk kind of however we
Speaker 2: want to. I mean, we do that anyway, but like
Speaker 2: it's like real girl chat, you.
Speaker 1: Know, because I think I would in a way love
Speaker 1: for people to see our messages to each other. And
Speaker 1: this feels like a little peek into that.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can't how much would we sell our
Speaker 2: text messages for?
Speaker 1: And speaking of selling text messages, yeah, we have some
Speaker 1: hot topics to talk about today. But at first in
Speaker 1: Our Headlights, Joe and Mobley reveals how much he'd sell
Speaker 1: his soul for to become a reality TV.
Speaker 2: Villain, which is crazy because I'm like, it's priceless, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, well, not priceless. This is
Speaker 2: a hefty price tag on it, because I'm like, I
Speaker 2: feel like reality TV villain comes with very dangerous territory.
Speaker 2: There is like pros to it because like it's almost like, oh,
Speaker 2: you kind of go in this like hall of fame,
Speaker 2: you're legendary. However, I feel like when you're in the
Speaker 2: heat of it, whether that's when your show is airing
Speaker 2: or not, you're gonna always get like, you know, there's
Speaker 2: just like it's hard for people to it's hard for
Speaker 2: you to convince people to change their perception about you.
Speaker 2: And so he said five hundred grand and I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's it, And that's exactly what Serena said. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like that would be worth it for
Speaker 2: me personally.
Speaker 1: No. And I have a question for you, Charity. Do
Speaker 1: you think we have lost the art of a reality
Speaker 1: TV villain due to like social media? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like we used to have some iconic villains that oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes absolutely. And I'm like that's where I'm like,
Speaker 2: bring these people back casting department. That is like the
Speaker 2: primary focus that you guys need to be going into
Speaker 2: these meetings with looking for is for someone who is
Speaker 2: just unapologetically themselves good or bad, like in always. I
Speaker 2: personally feel like that does not exist anymore.
Speaker 1: And it is just.
Speaker 2: So it's because of social media. It's so hard for
Speaker 2: people to be organically themselves, even if it is, like
Speaker 2: I said, a bad side of themselves, because they are
Speaker 2: afraid of just how the Internet might destroy them and
Speaker 2: that's sad because I'm like that also is another like
Speaker 2: side of the coin that is like a bigger discussion
Speaker 2: of how people conduct themselves on social media. It's like
Speaker 2: two peer social people are too invested. It's a TV
Speaker 2: show at the end of the day, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, Like it should never be that deep,
Speaker 2: but it is. So I'm like, how do we fix this? Like,
Speaker 2: how do we go about getting the og reality TV
Speaker 2: back on our screens?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I think of like even the lovable villains
Speaker 1: like Carinne from The Bachelor or like Parvity Shallow from
Speaker 1: the Survivor series. They were so fun to watch and
Speaker 1: they didn't have to deal with what people do with now,
Speaker 1: which is basically forfeiting anything you want after the show,
Speaker 1: like your chances of getting asked one another show, your
Speaker 1: brand deals, Like are you up to date with any
Speaker 1: of the summerhouse drama that's happening?
Speaker 2: Yes, if you're referring to everything that happened, yeah, oh
Speaker 2: obviously the reunion before the yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is crazy. And I feel like Wes and
Speaker 1: Amanda lost not only all their brand deals, but they
Speaker 1: lost going into next season. And for me, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what they did was horrible, but I did want to
Speaker 1: see everyone back in the house again. And it feels
Speaker 1: like because of social media, we're losing seeing those like
Speaker 1: villains which make a TV show in a way, not
Speaker 1: saying what Wes and Amanda tad was right because it
Speaker 1: was so wrong and we could get into that show,
Speaker 1: but I miss watching an unlikable person on TV. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Well, see, that's the thing. And I also feel like
Speaker 2: kind of going off of like, okay, them not being
Speaker 2: asked back for like next season or however it went down.
Speaker 2: I truly don't even know. I just know they're not
Speaker 2: coming back, but part of me is like, are they
Speaker 2: not coming back because they like I know Wes got
Speaker 2: fired I believe like's he was not asked back, but
Speaker 2: like I wonder what's Amanda asked back? And she's just
Speaker 2: like I don't want to do it because she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to face like her actions, And to me, I'm
Speaker 2: like that also is like a part of the conversation
Speaker 2: because you you made the bed. Let's lie in it, baby,
Speaker 2: Let's lie in it. You know what I mean. It's like,
Speaker 2: don't run now, Like right, you stepped into the role
Speaker 2: of villain, own it, wear it, let's see it. And
Speaker 2: I'm like these people they're not really about it, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's like we need someone like New York. New
Speaker 2: York needs to be where is she?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask who is your favorite villain? And
Speaker 1: where is New York? Probably she invented being a villain
Speaker 1: on TV.
Speaker 2: She invented reality her and I mean Nani is not
Speaker 2: even a villain, but I'm like her and Nini are
Speaker 2: in my person like mountain yea literally or sure?
Speaker 1: And karenn like, I know we keep going back to her,
Speaker 1: but i know she's done House of Villains, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think back to a bachelor villain that was
Speaker 1: like hilarious, Like she was talking about Abraham Lincoln taking
Speaker 1: naps and her nanny, Like we need that back and
Speaker 1: it did work. You could never recreate New York.
Speaker 2: But you can't, Like you cannot. But I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I genuinely don't think. Well, actually no, they do exist.
Speaker 2: They're out there. It's just like are they seeking to
Speaker 2: go and reality or are people like just not scouting correctly.
Speaker 2: And I'm like this is why I'm like I want
Speaker 2: to have the job of a casting producer because I
Speaker 2: just it's almost like I'm in alignment in some weird way,
Speaker 2: like I'm not them, but I can see them. You know,
Speaker 2: I could fire in a crowd to be like this girl.
Speaker 1: You can find a villainous Yes, oh easily.
Speaker 2: I know who's right and who's wrong.
Speaker 1: Yes, you actually do, you really do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, to just speak on Joe, I just think
Speaker 2: five hundred grand is a little cheap. So I'm with
Speaker 2: Serena on that one. That's it the price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next topic, we have a little bit more serious
Speaker 1: and I actually I want to talk about this one.
Speaker 1: This is Bailey Brown and she's talking about getting dismissed
Speaker 1: by her doctors for her chronic pain. I appreciate her
Speaker 1: so much for bringing this to the Internet and every
Speaker 1: contestant who brings something that's really vulnerable, especially in the
Speaker 1: medical field, because I think so many people can relate
Speaker 1: to things and we just don't talk talk about it.
Speaker 1: And I mean this is huge. She said that she's
Speaker 1: been to many doctors with chronic illness. I think she
Speaker 1: was talking about being diagnosed with an early autoimmune disease,
Speaker 1: which is yeah, so broad, right, Like there's so many
Speaker 1: different things, and I feel like it's so easy to
Speaker 1: be brushed off, and her bringing attention to this is huge,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy she's finally getting the care that she
Speaker 1: needs for.
Speaker 2: That, no, honestly, and I'm like, I think about just
Speaker 2: how many people I've had conversations with separately about going
Speaker 2: to the doctor or just healthcare in general, and it's
Speaker 2: so hard. And I'm not even trying to put like
Speaker 2: a gender on this, but it is very hard for
Speaker 2: a woman to like be heard and to feel seen
Speaker 2: in a doctor's office. It's very scary, truly very scary
Speaker 2: because I feel like, I don't know, you can have
Speaker 2: this outwardly. And she mentions this, like having this outwardly
Speaker 2: appearance of like you're fine, Oh my gosh, you were
Speaker 2: so healthy, you look great, And it's like a lot
Speaker 2: of these things are like I don't want to say,
Speaker 2: like silent, but they are like it's like I feel this,
Speaker 2: you don't. It wouldn't manifest or it wouldn't show up
Speaker 2: in this way. But like I know, like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be, you know, in tune with my body and
Speaker 2: listen to my body and advocate for it in a
Speaker 2: way that it best should be advocated for, but no
Speaker 2: one's hearing me. And it's like this fight that a
Speaker 2: lot of people go through time and time again until
Speaker 2: they either give up and then something bad happens God forbid,
Speaker 2: or it takes you know, endless doctor bills and fees
Speaker 2: to finally find or come across a physician who's willing
Speaker 2: to listen to you, which is why I'm like, I
Speaker 2: also love that she mentioned going to like a functional
Speaker 2: health doctor, because I'm like, I'm I'm in a space
Speaker 2: where I like love both. I'm like, I love traditional medicine,
Speaker 2: but then also functional health because I'm like, they look
Speaker 2: at it from a holistic standpoint. It's not just like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like the primary symptom, that's it. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's your diet looking like what's your you know, life
Speaker 2: still looking like what's happening here? And it's like all
Speaker 2: these things work interchangeably with each other, and if they're
Speaker 2: not working well and we're only looking at one singular issue,
Speaker 2: then we're not ever really addressing like the root of
Speaker 2: the issue. So I'm so happy she spoke out about
Speaker 2: this because I'm like, this is literally what I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of us deal with and go through,
Speaker 2: but sometimes just feel like hopeless because we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: like if it's not working, then what do I do?
Speaker 2: Or like how do I go about this? So thank
Speaker 2: you Bailey, obviously wishing you so much wellness in your
Speaker 2: health and your health journey, but we are just proud
Speaker 2: of you for like having the courage to like open
Speaker 2: up and talk about this. I know that that's probably
Speaker 2: the most challenging thing, but hopefully you are getting the
Speaker 2: answers and well on your way to just being a
Speaker 2: healed human being.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. All Right, now that we're off
Speaker 1: the hot topic, should we talk about some other things
Speaker 1: happening in reality TV culture? When I would love to
Speaker 1: get your opinion on Come on, I know this happened
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, but just going into the
Speaker 1: craziness of reality TV and how it leaks into everyday life,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about the Summerhouse audio leak. Coming
Speaker 1: from someone who has been on a reality like on
Speaker 1: a reality show and a viewer, what do you think
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: I think it's crazy. I think it's insane if I'm
Speaker 2: being honest, and I know I'm saying like buzzwords, right,
Speaker 2: now in saying crazy, but like that's all I could
Speaker 2: truly sum up what this was. And when I first
Speaker 2: came across it, I was like, huh, like this happened,
Speaker 2: like this was able to be even happy, like you know,
Speaker 2: it just blew my mind because I really do feel
Speaker 2: like once something in reality TV world, once something leaves
Speaker 2: like production or leaves a set, it becomes a beast
Speaker 2: of its own, and especially as we know it, like
Speaker 2: with social media and with like online culture, it's now
Speaker 2: in the hands of millions and without full context. Obviously
Speaker 2: we saw a leak, so that's like not the whole thing,
Speaker 2: but like you have a portion of whatever was being
Speaker 2: discussed at the time, and now it's there's no context around,
Speaker 2: like you know, it's just it's just crazy. Context are
Speaker 2: not But I'm like, I feel like that's so important
Speaker 2: for like things to be understood properly and like, you know, correctly.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like godspeed, honestly, because when I heard it,
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, I'm like everybody else at
Speaker 2: this point, I'm like, I'm not even like taking into
Speaker 2: account like oh, like, well this could have happened. It's
Speaker 2: like it's just mouth like your jaws drap. You're like, what,
Speaker 2: like this is happening, this is going on? Who did it?
Speaker 2: Like you know, we're running to like make accusations or
Speaker 2: assumptions about like oh so and so didd because he's upset,
Speaker 2: and it's just it becomes just out of hand. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what can be very dangerous when something
Speaker 2: like this happens in the reality TV space. It's it's
Speaker 2: just a tricky situation truly, And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how they First of all, how did they find
Speaker 2: out who who did it?
Speaker 1: Well? I do know that Andy said that Jennifer Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who is a huge Bravo fan, and also so it's Rihanna,
Speaker 1: But Jennifer Lawrence had a hand in figuring this out.
Speaker 1: I think she just decided that she wanted to become
Speaker 1: a detective on top of a period being an oscar
Speaker 1: you know, nominated winning actress. But I also have a
Speaker 1: question for you because this is Bravo, and I think
Speaker 1: Bravo does such a good job at all. Press is
Speaker 1: good Press in aay of everyone on Earth was talking
Speaker 1: about this audio leak. I was excited to watch the reunion.
Speaker 1: They take scandal and they turn it into like something
Speaker 1: that I want to see a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they do it well.
Speaker 1: Scandal all yeah, so many.
Speaker 2: Things, yeah, which is I'm like, do we take notes?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I agree with you and I
Speaker 2: find that so fascinating. But I think that's also very
Speaker 2: telling about I don't know, maybe they're fan base too,
Speaker 2: of just how they digest news. I think that's a
Speaker 2: big Like again, there's so many different parts, but everyone
Speaker 2: has a role equally in how that it's able to
Speaker 2: be something I don't want to say successful, but like
Speaker 2: a scandal turning into like a iconic pop culture moment.
Speaker 2: That's crazy saying that in one sentence, but that's exactly
Speaker 2: what happens. And like you said, this audio leak like
Speaker 2: went everywhere, like everywhere. Everybody was talking about it, everybody
Speaker 2: had eyes on it. Everyone probably listened to it who
Speaker 2: probably didn't even watch the show. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be good if it's managed and
Speaker 2: circulated correctly, but it also could be bad. And I
Speaker 2: feel like they obviously made it work because this whole reunion,
Speaker 2: the whole Summer House scandal became something far greater than
Speaker 2: what I think. Probably they even imagined, but like, hey, yes,
Speaker 2: good press, bad press, press is press.
Speaker 1: And that's also what I wanted to ask is what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on spoilers?
Speaker 2: Ugh, I don't. I don't. I don't like them. I
Speaker 2: don't like them. I think it ruins, It ruins the experience,
Speaker 2: It ruins it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be so conscious of avoiding spoilers
Speaker 1: for reality TV shows, but I think since I've gone one,
Speaker 1: I want to know the spoilers. I always want to know. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Secretly see, but like, is that because you're actively watching
Speaker 2: the show or you're not. I only want to know
Speaker 2: the spoilers if I'm like, I know, I can't be
Speaker 2: dedicated to watching this show, so like tell me now.
Speaker 2: But if I am someone who is a viewer and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is my show. I'm clocked in every
Speaker 2: Wednesday night at this time, it's like, don't tell me
Speaker 2: anything about it, because otherwise it's going to mess with
Speaker 2: naturally my psyche of like what I think this scenario
Speaker 2: how it played out, because we at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, we know we don't see everything, you know,
Speaker 2: so it's like I'm wondering what's missing, what's not So
Speaker 2: I do think that there's a world where it can
Speaker 2: be beneficial, but I do. Personally for me, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: if I'm watching the show, keep them away, keep it
Speaker 2: them away from you.
Speaker 1: Do you think in the Bachelor World spoilers are benefiting
Speaker 1: us in the way it's benefiting Bravo.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's If anything, I think it's making
Speaker 2: it more like it damages the experience. It damages the
Speaker 2: viewing process of it all. And almost in a way,
Speaker 2: I feel like it leads to less eyes on the
Speaker 2: actual segment itself, because I feel like if people did
Speaker 2: not know, like say you hear okay, So and So's
Speaker 2: the lead, whether I'm invested or not, naturally, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be like how does this play out? That's just natural.
Speaker 2: But like if I have an understanding or an inkling
Speaker 2: of like it might be him, I don't know, we'll
Speaker 2: see to the end maybe, but there's a possibility that
Speaker 2: percentage now goes down of like do I want to
Speaker 2: watch to the end to figure this out or do
Speaker 2: I just want to come back when the last episode
Speaker 2: is on to see if I was right or if
Speaker 2: this spoiler was right. So I do feel like in
Speaker 2: a way, it's a disservice specifically to our franchise, because yeah,
Speaker 2: people watch the our process in specifics for how everything
Speaker 2: plays out, how does this date work to where she
Speaker 2: ends up sending this guy home or she doesn't no
Speaker 2: longer like him, or there's a stronger connection that's building here.
Speaker 2: But like when people know, it's like all you know,
Speaker 2: it's like all bets are off, Why why should I watch?
Speaker 2: You know? And I feel like that's it doesn't do
Speaker 2: us good because we have a very specific, unique process.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's just Okay, we're filming a day
Speaker 2: in the life reality TV show where we are showing
Speaker 2: all types of you know, over the course of a summer,
Speaker 2: and it's just you know, different relationships, all these things
Speaker 2: manifesting at the same time. It's very different. It's like
Speaker 2: like a little rigid, but like it's meant to be
Speaker 2: that way for the sake of the show. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I do think spoilers hurt us because yeah, when people know,
Speaker 2: they don't care as much.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Is so like I
Speaker 1: feel like niche to being a lead. I think some
Speaker 1: Bachelor fans they like trying to guess who we're with
Speaker 1: and do that by like looking at backgrounds of our
Speaker 1: stories and comparing where are they, where are we? What
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Do you think that's fun
Speaker 1: or do you think that ruins it as well?
Speaker 2: I think that's fun. I think that's where again there
Speaker 2: is the viewers now have a little bit not stakes,
Speaker 2: but like they're more involved on their own end in
Speaker 2: the process of like trying to like again predict the outcome.
Speaker 2: They don't have anything that's factual or that's guaranteed without
Speaker 2: a spoiler, but like if they have a spoiler and
Speaker 2: say if the spoiler is right or wrong, they now
Speaker 2: your brain again, it just you naturally are skewed a
Speaker 2: certain direction. So like without that existing at all, it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: Charity season ended, who is she with? They're looking at everything.
Speaker 2: There's eyes on everything, you know. But when they're it's
Speaker 2: like every exactly like you said, like backgrounds like oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, she's wearing a certain colored T shirt and
Speaker 2: that's so and so his favorite. Like it sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but that's really what happens. Like that's so there's so
Speaker 2: much involved. But yes, again, if I knew, like oh,
Speaker 2: Rachel picks so and so, Okay, now I'm now gonna
Speaker 2: look at everything that's related to him, and it just it,
Speaker 2: you know, it just takes away. So I do feel
Speaker 2: like I like the game of like trying to figure
Speaker 2: out like who is the person at the end. But
Speaker 2: if I know, I really am like Okay, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: checked out at this point, like okay, we shoe best
Speaker 2: of Look, I'm looking for y'all's first vacation.
Speaker 3: On the boat.
Speaker 2: Like that's all I care about that point, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know anything else.
Speaker 1: No, I love it. It's fun and I mean we're
Speaker 1: going we're talking about the cross into like reality in
Speaker 1: the world. And I think the Summerhouse reunion is obviously over,
Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of aftermath about it. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts. I don't know if you fully watched it.
Speaker 1: They film their reunion after, you know, the summer obviously
Speaker 1: it was kind of recent, so there is a lot
Speaker 1: of discourse still happening around the Summerhouse reunion, and Amanda
Speaker 1: and West showed up in a lot of time times
Speaker 1: when they were asked a question, they were saying they
Speaker 1: couldn't recall because they didn't watch the season back as
Speaker 1: someone who has been on reality TV and also consumes
Speaker 1: reality TV. Did you watch your season back? Do you
Speaker 1: think that that's fair that they didn't watch.
Speaker 2: In this specific situation. No, I don't think it's fair
Speaker 2: because I think it's crazy to show up to a
Speaker 2: reunion and one act oblivious to your specific actions, which
Speaker 2: is what we're all discussing and how everything played out,
Speaker 2: and you're acting like you have no idea one. Okay,
Speaker 2: how factual is that? Sure you may not remember, but like,
Speaker 2: watch the season back so you can be on the
Speaker 2: same page as the rest of us. This is what
Speaker 2: we're discussing. These is what These are the scenes that
Speaker 2: is specifically crazy to watch back in real time or
Speaker 2: not in real time, but like to take yourself back
Speaker 2: to that time and be like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: had no idea that this was happening. Like I'm referencing
Speaker 2: the scene where oh my gosh, where she like goes
Speaker 2: up to Wes and she's like, oh, watch me walk away,
Speaker 2: Like watch her walk away, and she's in a swimsuit
Speaker 2: and like she sits down like cow, my husband's the best,
Speaker 2: like DJ in the Hampton's and like Wes is playing
Speaker 2: like it's all these little things that I'm like, you're joking,
Speaker 2: but you're actually joking. So in that situation, specifically with them,
Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, they they should have watched their
Speaker 2: season back. It's one thing if they did not have
Speaker 2: to come to the reunion, do what you will, like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. At that point, you're no
Speaker 2: longer on the show. We don't have to discuss it anymore.
Speaker 2: Go live your life. You made your bed, lay in it.
Speaker 2: But it's like you made your bed, you lay in it.
Speaker 2: Now you need to show up and make the sheets. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like, yes, that's
Speaker 2: what you need to do. And they both owed it
Speaker 2: to not themselves but the rest of their cast members,
Speaker 2: and the fact that they could not do that and
Speaker 2: did not do that, that was a little like appalling
Speaker 2: to me. I'm not gonna lie because I did watch
Speaker 2: my season back, and I watched my season back for
Speaker 2: that reason, not just for myself to be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: how did this all like come to me? But for
Speaker 2: my fiance in the event that he has any questions
Speaker 2: or anything that I need to clarify, but also for
Speaker 2: the sake that Okay, the viewers are watching this too.
Speaker 2: If they have something that they are speaking on, I
Speaker 2: need to be able to give like maybe as much
Speaker 2: as I could appropriate context or whatever. But again, I
Speaker 2: didn't find myself in a situation like this. I feel
Speaker 2: like there's this way more severe that they don't really
Speaker 2: have an option in this situation. Yeah, I'm curious, would
Speaker 2: you say the same.
Speaker 1: And you know what, It's so funny because especially when
Speaker 1: I filmed my Netflix show, there were so many people
Speaker 1: on my cast and they're like, oh, I don't watch
Speaker 1: And in that case, I'm like, okay, we didn't have
Speaker 1: a reunion. But as for like the shows where you
Speaker 1: have to show up and take accountability, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to watch my Bachelorette season back and I did that
Speaker 1: because in my mind, this is my job right to
Speaker 1: show up and know what everyone is talking about and
Speaker 1: knowing what I did wrong as well, because watching myself
Speaker 1: back on my bachelotte season was horrific and I learned
Speaker 1: so much by watching that back. And also my season
Speaker 1: had a horrible ending. I had to watch myself fall
Speaker 1: in love knowing that I was alone. It was so
Speaker 1: hard to watch back. But for me, it's my job
Speaker 1: to show it to your reunion and know what's happening.
Speaker 1: So I can't comprehend this. I don't watch like I
Speaker 1: don't know that, don't get it. I've kind of watch
Speaker 1: hard things like just watch it back and learn something
Speaker 1: in a way I.
Speaker 2: Don't get it. I think this is their way, especially
Speaker 2: Amanda's way of like well, Amanda an West. I'm will say,
Speaker 2: both of them like to escape accountability. And it's as
Speaker 2: simple as that. It's like, oh, the easiest thing to
Speaker 2: say is like, well, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. But it's like maybe you didn't
Speaker 2: have to see it. You did it, you lived it
Speaker 2: like you didn't have to. But like you, like I said,
Speaker 2: this is your job. You knew you had a reunion
Speaker 2: to not watch it back and to come on to
Speaker 2: this couch and to try to at least like I mean,
Speaker 2: they're in my opinion, I didn't sense any like lack
Speaker 2: or not lack. I didn't sense any empathy or like
Speaker 2: her being apologetic for anything. I personally did not get
Speaker 2: that sense from her. I could be wrong, but hey,
Speaker 2: I would have been on my hands and knees if
Speaker 2: I was truly sorry, you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 2: I am so sorry, but like I didn't get that
Speaker 2: from them, So maybe that's her way of taking the
Speaker 2: easier way out. But like I said, I think all
Speaker 2: this at the end of the day bites them both
Speaker 2: in the butt. And now they're without jobs and I
Speaker 2: don't know, like to sacrifice your career for I don't
Speaker 2: know a dusty man. I could never.
Speaker 1: And I think the part that got to me the
Speaker 1: most is when she was like, in regards to what
Speaker 1: he's like, do you want to apologize? I can't.
Speaker 2: What, No, It's it's really crazy, like and that's I'm
Speaker 2: like to me, I'm like, I don't buy that. Like
Speaker 2: I don't give excuses a lot for people. I mean
Speaker 2: I do sometimes when necessary, but in that situation, that's
Speaker 2: not the right answer. Like what do you mean in
Speaker 2: regards to what you know? Exactly what we're talking about?
Speaker 2: And see her did a magnificent job. So that's all
Speaker 2: I have to say on that. Miller on top, Hello, Yes,
Speaker 2: always in forever, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay.
Speaker 2: I feel like, let's see to a game. We love
Speaker 2: a game as always, and so with us discussing reality
Speaker 2: TV all the ins and outs Behind the scenes, we
Speaker 2: are going to be testing each other on famous quotes
Speaker 2: from reality TV shows and have to guess which show
Speaker 2: which is crazy, because I'm like, I know some but them, Like,
Speaker 2: my brain is going to fail me right now, but
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: Our producer is going to read the quotes to us
Speaker 1: and we're going to try to guess either the show
Speaker 1: or the person who said this iconic reality TV line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, so let's start things off.
Speaker 4: We're gonna start things off pretty easy, and you guys
Speaker 4: are gonna jump in whenever you think you know the answer,
Speaker 4: and we'll give you a point. And if you can
Speaker 4: also say who said it, we'll give you an extra point. Alright, ready, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: first one, my heart is gold, but my Vigene is Platinum.
Speaker 2: Bachelor Karen career we go.
Speaker 1: She is like one of my favorite villains of all time.
Speaker 2: Hello, she's iconic, She's crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, Lincoln took naps, It's true, all right.
Speaker 3: The next one is, who's gonna check me? Boo?
Speaker 2: We're Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 3: There we go. Do we have do we have the problem?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Charre, There we go.
Speaker 2: Sheer Ray summer spring summer joggers.
Speaker 4: Hello, all right, this next one hopefully you guys know
Speaker 4: what we just talked about stuff. But it's not about
Speaker 4: the pastas uh James and La La.
Speaker 2: Right, was that at the reunion?
Speaker 3: No, it was on the street.
Speaker 4: It was James Kennedy on James Kennedy, he was talking
Speaker 4: to I think he was talking to La La.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's like debated what the pasta means to
Speaker 1: this day.
Speaker 3: We'll never know, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, we never know? All right.
Speaker 4: So the next one is, if you can't love yourself,
Speaker 4: how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I why am I blanking? I know I
Speaker 2: know this, but I'm like, I'm blanking so bad. I
Speaker 2: genuinely know this, but I'm like scared because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't even think I'm gonna have it, right?
Speaker 1: Is it Bachelor?
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do you want to dance? Are we top out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: RuPaul from RuPaul's Drag Race. That's what he says at
Speaker 4: the end of every episode.
Speaker 2: And I knew that's what I'm saying. I'm like, I've
Speaker 2: heard it so much that I'm like, where is this from?
Speaker 2: But I'm Okay, that's I'm ashamed at that one, saying
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: The next one is New York is in the house.
Speaker 4: Hello, New York right from.
Speaker 2: No is its not I was gonna say, is it
Speaker 2: Flavor of Love or House of Villains?
Speaker 3: It's I love New York, babe.
Speaker 1: We are done. We are done, way better than this.
Speaker 2: No, I know. I was like, oh, Rachel's gonna take over.
Speaker 2: Good job. I did one of.
Speaker 1: New York's quotes at the Bachelorette reunion upstairs by myself
Speaker 1: when she was like, I'm still in house.
Speaker 4: Because I was still I was still.
Speaker 2: Everyone, I'm still in the mother back house. Hello.
Speaker 4: The next one is, uh, expect the unexpected. This show
Speaker 4: is actually coming up soon, coming up. It's actually Big
Speaker 4: brother and it's Juliebez the host.
Speaker 1: I don't watch Big Brothers.
Speaker 3: You're missing out on culture. But that's okay, all right
Speaker 3: now we have mentioned it all.
Speaker 1: Bethany Francol, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Through Housewives of New York. Yes, all right, here's one.
Speaker 4: Here's a throwback. Lauren didn't go to Paris the hills.
Speaker 3: The Hills.
Speaker 2: That's right, I'm like, Who's said who?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: Lisa Love shout out amazing, all right, and then let's do.
Speaker 3: Two more. All right, this one not well, bitch.
Speaker 1: Said, it's got to be a housewife.
Speaker 3: I know, yes, we're getting warmer.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We need to open the schools. We need to open
Speaker 3: the schools.
Speaker 4: This is Derinda Medley Real Housewives of New York. It's
Speaker 4: a really there's a lot of memes. It's a great meme,
Speaker 4: all right. And the last one, we're gonna dools to open.
Speaker 2: The schools.
Speaker 4: Rot in hell our personal friend Brittany.
Speaker 1: I have a sweatshirt that says rotten heel.
Speaker 4: Great job, guys, I think we're honestly, I think we're
Speaker 4: pretty tied up.
Speaker 3: So congrats. We'll get you some reality TV education here later.
Speaker 3: But amazing at the show.
Speaker 2: Amazing, Okay, So clearly I need to do some more.
Speaker 2: I just need to go back and rewatch all like
Speaker 2: Reality TV Iconic just start to finish.
Speaker 1: I just was like we were going to be better
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 2: I know. But the thing is is, like I know
Speaker 2: a show. I just like I'm like, well, or I
Speaker 2: know like one or the other. But I'm like, but
Speaker 2: if I feel like if I know a person, I
Speaker 2: should know the show. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go rewatch the Hills now because I
Speaker 2: need to feel some like nostalgic energy in l life.
Speaker 1: And uh huh yeah, I need to go back and
Speaker 1: watch all the Housewives as well. I've been in a
Speaker 1: very Housewives mood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. Can this be petition? If Ninie ever
Speaker 2: listens to this, I need her back on my screen
Speaker 2: because I feel like that's when everything went wrong in
Speaker 2: the world. It's when she was no longer a part
Speaker 2: of the cast, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's when we jumped timelines and got into
Speaker 1: whatever we're in right now.
Speaker 2: Thank you for acknowledging that, because I'm really oh her
Speaker 2: on Traders? Would it would transfer? Actually, there's nothing else
Speaker 2: I would want to do in my heart to be
Speaker 2: a trader with Nini, Like.
Speaker 1: You need to go on Traders.
Speaker 2: I would be at her call. But like the way
Speaker 2: that I'm like, she would really push me, like I
Speaker 2: would be afraid. I would I would be afraid to
Speaker 2: do nothing. But the thing is like if it was
Speaker 2: me and her left somehow and like we were, you know,
Speaker 2: I would just hope that she would trust me, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm scared of Nini, but I love
Speaker 2: her so much. I'm like, honestly, you could take the press.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a trade. I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I exactly.
Speaker 1: I think though, like moving forward, they're always going to
Speaker 1: vote the housewives out because of this last time.
Speaker 5: I know. I'm like, she probably needs to be a
Speaker 5: faithful and then like someone recruits her in, like you know,
Speaker 5: it has to be at a.
Speaker 2: Certain point where people wouldn't suspect it. But I need
Speaker 2: her back on my screen in some capacity, and I
Speaker 2: needed to be a grand show at that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, I think that's it. Okay, Well, we had
Speaker 2: enough of a reality TV dive today discussing all the things,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I need a little bit of
Speaker 2: a break. So we will see you guys, I guess
Speaker 2: next week. So thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 2: on Bachelor Happy Hour. You can follow us at Bachelor
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Speaker 2: you guys next week.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,