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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're back. We're Brown Ambition.

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Speaker 3: Well, shimmy now, you know, I feel like I want

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Speaker 3: to do a little that's a little show tunes. You know.

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Speaker 1: We used to think about we used to think about

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Speaker 1: getting someone to sing our jingle, but like, why hire

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Speaker 1: some professional.

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Speaker 2: When you can have me? Okay, get into it.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Mandy. Welcome to another week of Brown

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Speaker 1: Ambition where we talk over each other in the intro

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Speaker 1: nailing it? Nailing it? So you survived the heat wave?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I had. I went to Dorty Park yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I had a good time though park.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, what's that?

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Speaker 2: Oh you never heard?

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Speaker 3: Dorney Park is like it's like, I guess, like a

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Speaker 3: Great Adventure ish kind of place they have, well except

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Speaker 3: for this one. I don't know if Great Adventure has

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Speaker 3: a water park, but Dorney Park has a water park

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Speaker 3: and then like a regular amusement park park. But it's

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Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania right where Pennsylvania kind of like Meet to Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: It was about like an hour and a half ride

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Speaker 3: from Newark and we had a good time. Took Superman, Supergirl,

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Speaker 3: a friend of mine, Rihanna. It was her husband's fortieth birthday.

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Speaker 3: So all weekend they did like fun things like the

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Speaker 3: beach on Saturday, which I was like, absolutely not not

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Speaker 3: in that heat.

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Speaker 2: Then they had like.

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Speaker 1: They even went to like a theme park in that heat.

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Speaker 3: I know, I was gonna stay home, but I am

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Speaker 3: the queen of not going anywhere and then complaining about

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Speaker 3: how boring my life is.

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Speaker 2: And so I woke up on Sunday because I already

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Speaker 2: told her I wasn't going.

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Speaker 3: I woke up on Sunday and I was like, Tiffany,

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Speaker 3: this is these you pray for things like this, like hey,

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Speaker 3: to be invited to go places, to have something to do,

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Speaker 2: I got up.

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Speaker 3: Superman looked at me like half fun. I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, sir, you two are going. But we honestly

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Speaker 3: had such a good.

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Speaker 2: Time, Like even though it was really hot, we had

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, so if you're not familiar,

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Speaker 3: are you familiar with the fast past?

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Speaker 1: Manny, Yeah, yeah, I used to go to six Flags

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Speaker 3: And so the fast pass is just like basically they

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Speaker 3: sell a limited amount and it just means like that

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Speaker 2: And when I tell you.

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Speaker 3: There were rides that we rode on five times before

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Speaker 3: I saw people in line were still waiting.

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Speaker 1: I'm so mad and staring at you guys like that.

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Speaker 2: As we ran up and down, up and down, and

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Speaker 3: But I thought to myself, like, honestly, because I never

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Speaker 3: was really wanted to get a fast past before, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: But it really like we.

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Speaker 3: Must have gone on like twenty rides versus maybe the

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Speaker 3: so it's just worth it. It was an extra I think

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Speaker 1: No, I'm all for that. I remember I took Husban

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Speaker 1: for the very you know, he's one of those New

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Speaker 1: Yorkers who never went to the Empire State Building or

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Speaker 1: I've been up there before.

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Speaker 1: You just it's so crowded that you don't even want

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Speaker 1: And I did it, and it was so satisfying to

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Speaker 3: been to the Empire State, Like is there like a

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Speaker 1: A different line, there's a different elevator, and it's you

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Speaker 1: just like the people we had to. I felt the

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Speaker 1: and like express pass. But it's so worth it because

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Speaker 1: like you're the time, It's about your time. How valuable

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Speaker 2: Yes, And it really was to be able to jump

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Speaker 3: And it's so funny because Superman is still not used

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Speaker 2: I was like, I need. It was fun because you

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Speaker 3: He's like I never could afford to go to confusing

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Speaker 3: just like this is like my shallhad all over. But

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Speaker 2: The line, get into it, my dude. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: Haven't yelled been to Harry Potter World. I haven't even

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Speaker 3: One in California and in Florida. Honestly, both are tremendously amazing.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how that is not my life. I

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Speaker 1: ruining everything. I guess I'll go in twenty twenty one. Anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely worth the money. So fun. I did the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite. We I was grateful to live in the

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Speaker 1: We went and saw the Lion King. It was pretty

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Speaker 2: He is very morbid, very sad. My dad would say

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Speaker 1: And then Collie. But it was good. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: But they you know, it was good. It didn't distract me,

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Speaker 2: You know, Beyonce, Hey, Simba, what you doing there? Simba?

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Speaker 2: You need to come Home. You're like beehive, I love Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: Don't come sing say.

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Speaker 1: My name Simba.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's good.

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Speaker 1: See so you haven't downloaded the entire album her soundtrack yet.

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Speaker 3: I had been jammy, okay, no, Spotify is my I

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Speaker 3: have a Spotify whatever Apple not application. I have Spotify,

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Speaker 3: and so I've been jamming. I'm like, look at this

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Speaker 1: She did good right, like very respectful of the culture.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Broderick, this is the Lion, like Jonathan Taylor Thomas

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wowing girl.

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Speaker 2: That should be like our theme song if we wouldn't

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Speaker 2: get sued for it.

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Speaker 1: We would she would come for us park Wood Entertainment

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Speaker 1: would be like and give me your entire life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so good for Beyonce. Hope you guys enjoyed the movie

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Speaker 3: Saw it, Yeah, Beyond Beyond, we love, We love Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't see The Lion King, did you watch

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Speaker 1: so the Remember when Serena was like she was in Wimbledon.

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, sting went viral where guys were or some

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if this I saw this on

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Speaker 1: Twitter today. I don't know if this was before this

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Speaker 1: contravert this like stupid survey came out or she did

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Speaker 1: it in answer to it. But it is the best

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Speaker 1: two minutes ever. It's like Serena against like five white guys,

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Speaker 1: her get like annihilating them. It's so good. Yes, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, well that's just men in general.

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Speaker 2: They just swear. I think I could. I think I

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Speaker 2: could be Serena sir. Her service over to two hundred

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Speaker 1: Now, and part of me, I like didn't want her

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Speaker 3: When I look at a supergirl, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: And yet it's okay if your child is not that child,

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Speaker 3: My parents are like yo, every other week. That's where

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited. Don't worry. We'll still have shows

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for y'all to ask us some questions.

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Speaker 3: These are the questions, well, you guys always ask amazing questions.

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Speaker 1: And you'll be like, well, thanks, appreciate it. You can

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Speaker 1: I love how people just say hey Mandy. Now they

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Speaker 2: I hear them later. I'm here too.

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Speaker 1: We might couldn't have people reading them for us. No,

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Speaker 1: it's me. Thank you for all your good questions. So

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Speaker 1: have a midyear review, it's a cool thing that companies

439
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Speaker 1: can do versus just having the one big annual review.

440
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Speaker 1: So if you're having your midyear or you're coming up

441
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Speaker 1: on a review, this is a good question from listener

442
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Speaker 1: who wants to go by Tea Park. Tea Park says

443
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Speaker 1: how or asks how would you suggest recovering or redeeming

444
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: yourself from low balling your own salary? For instance, maybe

445
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 1: you asked for a salary that was less than the

446
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 1: requisition paid and later found out from conversations that the

447
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: job could have offered more. According to LinkedIn, for my

448
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: company and position, I'm paid seven k less than I

449
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Speaker 1: could be. Now I'm embarrassed. Do you have any advice? Oof?

450
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a very common yes, very common.

451
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Speaker 1: It's it's so hard, it's so hard, and I have

452
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Speaker 1: some thoughts on this tif you might too, personally, having

453
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Speaker 1: been on both sides of it. So now I'm in

454
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Speaker 1: a position where I'm recruiting and hiring people and I

455
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: do make decisions around salary, and I get really, I

456
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Speaker 1: mean I personally, and I'm not supposed to say anything,

457
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Speaker 1: but like sometimes I want to reach across the phone

458
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Speaker 1: or the table and be like, negotiate, ask me for more.

459
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Speaker 1: I can give, cause you know you know what you're

460
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Speaker 1: we know what our range is. But some people will

461
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Speaker 1: come in with like very specific numbers in mind and

462
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Speaker 1: they'll be like, okay, yeah, we can hit that I

463
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 1: would say it's it's more difficult once you're in the position,

464
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Speaker 1: once you've accepted the job and you're you're there at

465
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Speaker 1: the company. So I won't harp too long on what

466
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Speaker 1: you could have done beforehand to fix this, because that's

467
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: that's already done and plenty of other people are probably

468
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Speaker 1: in the same position. So what I'll say is, some

469
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Speaker 1: companies do look at market adjustments where it's not like

470
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Speaker 1: it's beyond like a performance based or like a merit

471
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Speaker 1: based increase, like you're two percent per year or whatever

472
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Speaker 1: that standard. They may actually, if you make a case

473
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Speaker 1: for it, look at, okay, what is the market rate

474
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Speaker 1: for your position? Are you under or overpaid for the

475
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: market And this happens if your company it's maybe big

476
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Speaker 1: enough to have a head of rewards and compensation or

477
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Speaker 1: like ahead of like some department head who's in charge

478
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Speaker 1: of looking at compensation, and they may take it up

479
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: for your review, but you have to go to your

480
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Speaker 1: manager to ask, and that's tricky because it's kind of like,

481
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Speaker 1: you know, you're asking for excuse me, an adjustment and

482
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Speaker 1: pay that's not maybe linked to like traditional things a

483
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: promotion or like a merit increase, but it's possible. Another

484
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: thing like secret advice that I wish I could give people.

485
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: It's like it may be and you have to like

486
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: feel you have to feel out the vibe for the

487
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Speaker 1: place that you work. But it may even be better

488
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Speaker 1: for you to just get another competing job offer and

489
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Speaker 1: then bring that to the table and.

490
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Speaker 2: Use that good one.

491
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Speaker 1: And I almost wish sometimes people just did that because

492
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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't think it's happened to me,

493
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Speaker 1: but not like not from someone who's already been working

494
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Speaker 1: here for a while. Definitely during negotiations in the beginning,

495
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Speaker 1: it's happened they've got two job offers. They're toy in between. Oh,

496
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Speaker 1: this company b offered me ten k more, can you

497
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Speaker 1: match it? And we've that's worked. We've definitely done that.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's good.

499
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Speaker 1: But like, if you're already in the job, sometimes the

500
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Speaker 1: best way to show your value is to get an

501
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Speaker 1: offer from someone else, a competitor. And if you're you

502
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Speaker 1: just have to hope that you have to do it

503
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: in the right way to where you're not you know,

504
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: burning a bridge or creating like creating any like resentment

505
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: from your managers or whatever. But do it in a

506
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: way just to show your value and see if they

507
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Speaker 1: can beat it and get your answer, you know, and

508
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: if they say no, maybe you want to take that

509
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: job offer. If they say if they say yes, then okay,

510
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: you got what you wanted. Those are a couple of

511
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Speaker 1: just thoughts I had. And second, K is not that

512
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Speaker 1: huge of a jump, so you may.

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Speaker 2: Might be able to close it. Yeah, that gap, they

514
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Speaker 2: might be able.

515
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Speaker 1: To close it if it's truly a market gap or

516
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Speaker 1: if you you know, we're able to get a competing

517
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Speaker 1: offer and show that you're worth more.

518
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Speaker 3: And just be mind because I as an employer, well

519
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Speaker 3: we do. We do adjustments because I feel like we're

520
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Speaker 3: not quite where I want to be as far as

521
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Speaker 3: paying market rate because we still are I still we

522
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Speaker 3: still are really I guess in the eyes of the government.

523
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Speaker 2: Whatever, we still are a small business. And so we're

524
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Speaker 2: getting much better than we're getting.

525
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: Closer and closer because I don't know, if you guys

526
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Speaker 3: remember earlier in the year, I said, we set a

527
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Speaker 3: goal for my team to get the average employee to

528
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Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars a year, to one of our

529
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Speaker 3: audacious goals, and.

530
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Speaker 2: We're on track to hit that next year.

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Speaker 3: So the average employee meaning that maybe part time customer

532
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Speaker 3: support is twenty five thousand hours, so twenty five thousand

533
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Speaker 3: dollars a year.

534
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Speaker 2: But then maybe if you're on the.

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Speaker 3: Lead team, meaning one of the executives, maybe you make

536
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Speaker 3: you know, one fifty two hundred thousand. But then so

537
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Speaker 3: that's what I mean by average employees, So not that

538
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: everyone's making one hundred thousand no matter what you do.

539
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Speaker 2: And so we're we're we know we're getting.

540
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Speaker 3: Better at it, and so what we do is because

541
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Speaker 3: we're kind of that we're growing in that way. I

542
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Speaker 3: every six months, well we try to do it every quarter,

543
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Speaker 3: but it depends on how well the quarter has been.

544
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Speaker 3: But every six months or so, we make an adjustment

545
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Speaker 3: where let's just say, I think, like I don't know,

546
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Speaker 3: maybe like a starting customer support, like if it was

547
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: just brand new you, maybe you did an internship with us.

548
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: This is like you know, we're just starting to pay you.

549
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it starts at fifteen, but we'll adjust up and say, okay,

550
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: now everyone that comes in now starts at eighteen, and

551
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: so if you're at fifteen, you're automatically bumped to eighteen,

552
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Speaker 3: even though it's not based up pounds salary or not

553
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Speaker 3: based upon merit or anything like that. It's just the

554
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: company has adjusted up and we're working to our audacious

555
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: goal to we kind of hit where I feel like

556
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Speaker 3: a fair market value for works rendered across the border.

557
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Speaker 2: So that's one thing.

558
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Speaker 3: And then two Yes, if somebody came to me from

559
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Speaker 3: my team who said, you know who I thought was

560
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: killing it and they were like, cause we've given raises,

561
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, I mean I'm unique in that, well

562
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: not me, but this is unique in that with small businesses,

563
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: there's a lot more flexibility than like a larger business.

564
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Speaker 3: But I remember there was somebody on our team who

565
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: was like, Hey, Tiffany, I'm really you know, I love

566
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: working here. I'm going to continue to work here, but

567
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: I just want you to know I'm taking a side job.

568
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to stop work, but I'm taking

569
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Speaker 3: a side job because I and I said, oh okay,

570
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: And I found out who the Grapevine is because she

571
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: was struggling with childcare and so I was like, well,

572
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: she's slaying and she's killing it. So what I did

573
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: is I looked at the because we have an open

574
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: door policy as it relates to pay where everyone can see.

575
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Speaker 2: We have a grid where it's like you can you

576
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Speaker 2: know what color you are? You don't.

577
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: You can guess what the color other people are, but

578
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: you know what color you are, and it'll say like green.

579
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: You know, the range for mid level green is you know,

580
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, thirty to forty thousand dollars.

581
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: Let's just say so you kind of know where you are.

582
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Speaker 3: And so I looked and I was like, you know what,

583
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: pink has not gotten an adjustment in a while.

584
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Speaker 2: So I adjusted that.

585
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Whole that whole color for anyone who was pink senior level,

586
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Speaker 3: mid level, entry level pink.

587
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: I adjusted it up to accommodate.

588
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Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, it was time anyway,

589
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Speaker 3: So because she can, you know, she didn't ask me

590
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: for a raise, but I didn't want. I didn't want

591
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: to lose somebody who was amazing as a result of

592
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Speaker 3: like you know, child care was going to be an issue,

593
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: and so it was a significant race. So, like I said,

594
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: we're a smaller company, so I mean, as we get bigger,

595
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 3: I might not be able to make moves like that,

596
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: but for now we can. So you just never know

597
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: unless you ask. And so I just wanted to share

598
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: that that like if you delay.

599
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: That again, you never know unless you ask.

600
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: Because I'm saying that if she didn't ask, I mean

601
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: didn't just help her.

602
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: It helped everybody who was at her level. They were like,

603
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: wait what.

604
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: Okay, this is awesome and so yeah, when you have

605
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: really good people, you know, people tend to want to

606
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to train anyone.

607
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: New I say that again. Yes it's such a pain

608
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: and don't make us do it.

609
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: Yes, so if you are, but like here's the thing.

610
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: If you're so so, and I'm sure you're not. I'm

611
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: sure you're killing it. But if you're so so, I'm like,

612
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: well girl, I can train somebody to be.

613
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Speaker 1: So so, you know, but I back it up with

614
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: good work.

615
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: Yes, if you are amazing what I mean like, I'm

616
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: going to go as high as I can that I

617
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: can actually afford to do. Like if but it's like,

618
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: well i'd like two hundred thousand, I'm like, well girl,

619
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean that would be awesome, but the company can't

620
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: afford that, you know, So I you know, I adjust

621
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: based upon like how much like i'd reach out to

622
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: our CFO.

623
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Speaker 2: What are we able to do? What are we able

624
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Speaker 2: to sustain.

625
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: So typically, if we didn't have a quarter that could

626
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: sustain a raise, we'll do a bonus. Because a bonus,

627
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: I know, we say pretty robustly. So I'm like, okay

628
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: with the bonus, it's one time, here's your money. I

629
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about sustaining. Like, if you get

630
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: a raise, I have to pay you that indefinitely. And

631
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: so there are ways that are kind of around, like

632
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, when it comes to like when I'm wanting

633
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: to kind of show appreciation to the team.

634
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: But but yeah, like I said.

635
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: If you're killing it, people are going to want to

636
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: keep you and they'll do as much as they can

637
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: in order to do so.

638
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred thousand percent. But again, like seven k

639
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: is not the biggest of gaps, and maybe it's a

640
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: gap that maybe they could close halfway now and the

641
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: rest of the way next year. But get your facts together,

642
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, do your own research, see what and if

643
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: you've really got intel, you know, share that with them.

644
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: If you feel confident and comfortable and make your case

645
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: at the right at the right time, you know, preferably

646
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: after you've just like nailed a certain project or you know,

647
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: even you don't have to. Also, you don't have to

648
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: wait for that formal review process if it's something that's

649
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: really nagging at you. And honestly, if you get the

650
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: other job offer, it's all the more you know, that's

651
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: just like all the more reason to bring it up

652
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: and all the more pressure on your company to put

653
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: to to really pay you what you're worth. Yes, but

654
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: don't feel bad, I mean, she says she's embarrassed, like

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Speaker 1: that is such a common comment. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: I've definitely been there, and the way that I acted

657
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: is I asked for a raise, didn't get it, and

658
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Speaker 1: I left. And sometimes you have to, you know, if

659
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Speaker 1: the company is not really gonna help you, make up,

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Speaker 1: you just you just have to learn from it and

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Speaker 1: and move on and always negotiate moving forward always mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your questions. T Park. Okay, let's see.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a question from listener. Karen says, Hi, ladies,

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Speaker 1: I love the podcast. I'm a Newish listener. I recently

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Speaker 1: purchased my first home. I also have a car loan

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Speaker 1: through my credit union that I've been paying on for

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Speaker 1: over two years now. The interest rate on my mortgage

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Speaker 1: is four point three percent, which is like the lowest

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Speaker 1: it can be, right, and on my car loan it's

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Speaker 1: two point seventy nine percent excellent rates. She must have

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00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: good credit. Yes, I know you both suggest paying more

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Speaker 1: on the debt that has the highest interest rate. But

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Speaker 1: should I still do that with my mortgage since my

674
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Speaker 1: car loan has a shorter term. Good question, Good example

675
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: of when rule of thumb personal finance advice is not

676
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Speaker 1: always the best.

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Speaker 2: Yes. I was about to say, Chah, pay that car.

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Speaker 1: Pay that car off. It's going to feel so satisfying

679
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Speaker 1: when you do, and it's probably a much lower balance

680
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Speaker 1: than your mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and honestly to its just yeah, you'll be. And

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Speaker 3: that's why I don't necessarily subscribe to the well ideally,

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Speaker 3: and I guess if you want to technically like pay

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Speaker 3: off your debt, yes, hitting the debt with the highest

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Speaker 3: interest rate, because that's the more expensive debt. That is,

686
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: you know that technically is the best choice. But emotionally,

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Speaker 3: you know, hitting the debt that you can get rid

688
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: of the fastest, it's also going to keep you probably

689
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Speaker 3: on the debt paying down train much longer, so you

690
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: don't have to, like you know, there's no hard and

691
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: fast rule about anything.

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Speaker 2: But first of all, one you've got great interest rate.

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Speaker 3: So you're not someone who's like, I've got one credit

694
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: card and it's a thirty percent interest rate, and I've

695
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: got another credit card and it's like a five percent

696
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: interest rate.

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00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Which one should I do?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, go for the five percent, you know that,

699
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Speaker 3: bro for the thirty Obviously pay that down first, because

700
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Speaker 3: that's super expensive debt. You know, you're you're choosing between

701
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Speaker 3: you know, Granny Smith apples and Macintosh apples.

702
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: Are they're the same. No, I don't think so.

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00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't want the green ones. No, we

704
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: don't have the same. No, they hurt my te's no

705
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: two sours.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, guys got it talking to the background, I'm like

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Speaker 3: you hear the thund dirty quite please, Like, Jess, could

708
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: you try to down taping my podcast tanks?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm just proud of you for those

710
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Speaker 2: interest rates. Kill it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All I would add to that is just think about,

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Speaker 1: like if it is true, you know, if you were

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Speaker 1: to pay off your mortgage and you know, which takes

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Speaker 1: probably what thirty years, if you just got a house,

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00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: if you were to pay it off shore. Then you

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Speaker 1: could put that mortgage payment towards your car note. But

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Speaker 1: that's decades away. Are you even going to be in

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Speaker 1: the house that long? I don't know. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a good example of like the debt avalanche versus

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Speaker 1: a debt snowball, and how the debt avalanche has actually

723
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Speaker 1: study in at least one study has been found to

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Speaker 1: be more in debt avalanche. For those who don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's when you order your debts from least amount to

726
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Speaker 1: largest amount and you focus on the smallest debts first,

727
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Speaker 1: versus the debt snowball, which involves ordering from highest interest

728
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Speaker 1: rates to lowest and focusing on the highest interest rates debt.

729
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Speaker 1: And the reason the debt avalanche has worked where you

730
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Speaker 1: focus on small debts versus just like Tiffany said, it

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Speaker 1: just like creates this positive momentum and because it's smaller debts,

732
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Speaker 1: you get those early easier wins, and it just it

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Speaker 1: instills the good behavior that it takes to tackle the

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Speaker 1: bigger debts. And yeah, I mean I paid off my

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Speaker 1: I paid off my car note. You know, we got

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Speaker 1: a car and I paid off I made it, my

737
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: jobs paid off within a year, and I still to

738
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Speaker 1: this day feel so smug sliding into my debt free car,

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Speaker 1: like no debt, No one could take this from me.

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Speaker 1: It's it, you know, it feels good and it's I

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Speaker 1: highly recommend. That's a that's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: I've had, like my two cars.

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Speaker 3: The first one I bought was fifty five hundred dollars

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00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: and I bought it it was like two years old. Well,

745
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Speaker 3: and the second one, I was like, look at Jesus,

746
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: someone hit the first one, some kid, and then I

747
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: use the money from that to get the second one,

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Speaker 3: which is four thousand. That's how much they gave me

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Speaker 3: the insurance company. So really it was like, na, I

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Speaker 3: didn't come out of pocket for the second and then

751
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: my final car that I have now in cash as well,

752
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: because I just couldn't see myself with a card. No,

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00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: I've never had one before. So yes, living is debt

754
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: free as you can. I'm within reason. I don't want

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00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: people to prioritize debt over like actually earning or growing wealth,

756
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: but debt is you know, to me, you should have

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: a debt plan that you have in place that's working,

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00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: and then focus the majority of your energy of earning

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00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: and growing wealth and that will help to take care

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Speaker 3: of debt a little bit faster as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, and think about what you can

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Speaker 1: do with that car payment when you paid off your debt,

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00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you can put that into your retirement.

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Speaker 1: I would even say, like this is the fun part

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Speaker 1: when you're choosing do I pay off my mortgage or

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Speaker 1: do I say for you know, investing or something like that,

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Speaker 1: And that's where you can really see how much you

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Speaker 1: have to gain by you know, putting that into your

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Speaker 1: four one K or into like an IRA and what

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Speaker 1: you your money can work for you over time. You're

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Speaker 1: a you're in a really enviable position.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I wouldn't put that cardinale into the house

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Speaker 3: because you're you're interested at four perc. I'm assuming it's

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Speaker 3: fixed so you can make more in the market, meaning

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Speaker 3: that let's just say you can on average make seven

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00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: percent a year, and then you'd be saving four percent

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00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: with the house, so you could make more in the

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Speaker 3: market than you would be saving by paying off the mortgage.

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Speaker 3: And so I definitely would put that money toward growing money,

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Speaker 3: like like maybe said, your retirement account or a wealth

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: building account, because it's just you have such a great

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00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: interest rate, you don't have to be at a rush

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Speaker 3: to pay off.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. All right, thank you guys for your questions. Again.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up Brandabisson Podcast on Instagram or by email

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Speaker 1: Brandambition Podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: So are you gotta booth? Oh yeah, I gotta break?

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Speaker 2: Ask me why I'm like doing like a body roll,

789
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: like while I'm standing.

790
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with me, but I can't

791
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: speak without my whole body movements.

792
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Oh you kind of boos and I'm snapping.

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Speaker 1: To you had your Weedy's today? Or so there's the

794
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: there's God again with the thunder.

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Speaker 3: Not just that, but like literally there's like five cars

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00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: going off because you know the thunder can't help, but

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00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 3: like set off everyone's car along.

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: This is this is very like an ominous like dark

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00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Moody episode, but you're doing jazz hands, so we're keeping

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Speaker 1: it light.

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00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: So since we're keeping a light, I'm actually going to boost.

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

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00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: I got a boost today?

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00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna go party? When to go second?

805
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Sure, I'll go first? Why not? So I'm gonna boost

806
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: myself because after I don't know five six, seven, eleven years.

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00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I finally got my butt into therapy finally, and not

808
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: just any therapist, nothing like bringing a new tiny human

809
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: into the world that you don't want to screw up,

810
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: but to give you all the motivation you need to

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Speaker 1: finally get your button therapy. So I found a specialist

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Speaker 1: who works with new and family, yeah, family psychology and

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: like paranatal therapy, who can help you just plan for all,

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00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: like just deal with all the changes and stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very very excited, very excited. And it took me

816
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: a while because some of my husband's insurance and I

817
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: was trying to find a therapist. You know, all the

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00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: really good ones that people recommended to me in my

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00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: area didn't take insurance, and they wanted like one hundred

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars two hundred dollars or two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars at the max per hour. And I started

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Speaker 1: to think about it. I'm like, wow, it's an investment

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00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: in my health. And then I called my insurance company

824
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: and they said that I get free I get four

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: free pre natal therapy sessions, so like a bad yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they cover. They actually gave me free a few

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Speaker 1: free sessions if you're doing it. For you know, prenatal care,

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Speaker 1: and then from there my copay is just thirty dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, let me find someone in network,

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Speaker 1: and I actually asked the people who didn't take insurance

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Speaker 1: if they knew people who did, and I got a

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: referral to a really nice therapist woman who I've been

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: seeing for a couple of weeks now, and it's going

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Speaker 1: pretty well. I'm making time for it. I got the

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Speaker 1: butt krackadawn appointment at like eight thirty am, so I

836
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: can get to work afterward. But it's already making me

837
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing something besides just you know, eating

838
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Chipotle and incubating. I feel like I'm doing something actively

839
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Speaker 1: to make to make a better you know, just to

840
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: prepare myself, I think, for what we have coming.

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Speaker 2: Yay. Yeah, I can't imagine how it's just a lot.

842
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I see so many new moms and it's

843
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: just just like remember when Drina first had my godson.

844
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: She was like just in shock, like wait what.

845
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Like even like the day she was like on her

846
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: phone like I gotta set off this email. I'm like,

847
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: a baby's here, the baby is coming, you know, because

848
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: it was like so surreal like she was like, even

849
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: when you're holding the baby, she's like, who's this again,

850
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you go to sleep and you're like,

851
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 3: have a baby.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, it's real.

853
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: So it's but it's also awesome, Like I love to

854
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: see how my sister is with like her kids and

855
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: how much they like, I mean, just the love that

856
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: you see like in a kid's as when they look

857
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: at their.

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Speaker 2: Mom or dad.

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00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: It's just like I love to see like how much

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Speaker 3: you're just like, like how much Amelia looks at Carol

861
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: and she just like like even when she picks her

862
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: from school, she does the same thing many and I'm like,

863
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's my little sister, Carol, And like

864
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: now she's like the sun, moon and stars to someone.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I want to do that, but not a crazy, psycho,

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Speaker 1: stressed out version of that, which is what I feel

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Speaker 1: like I might be if I don't get my shit together.

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Speaker 2: No, that's awesome though, So yeah, I'm glad that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I'm doing it now and not

871
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: once the kid comes is because I've talked to moms

872
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: and they have said things like I don't have time,

873
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: and I feel like, if I don't instill the habit

874
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: now when I have time, I'm certainly not gonna like

875
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: want to do it once. I have a tiny human

876
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just like sleep deprived. But if I have

877
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: the habit now every Wednesday at eight am, you know,

878
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I go to my my session or whatever, I feel

879
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: like I'll keep it up and that's how I'll stay

880
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: sane when everything and like have time for myself even

881
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: when everything's kind of like going insane. And that's all

882
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: I had to say about that.

883
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: You know, that's good, and I'm glad that you're doing

884
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: that for yourself. That's important.

885
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna actually do two quick boosts, so boos

886
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: number one. I'm super excited. I finally found a financial planner.

887
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: Her name is Angelie.

888
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: She was actually like it was crazy because I interviewed,

889
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: as you guys know, like fifteen well I don't know

890
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: if I shared if I interviewed like fifteen people, and

891
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: I actually wrote like I wrote like a manifesto of sorts.

892
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 3: It was like five pages of like what I wanted

893
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: a planet, the goals I wanted to reach where we

894
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: stood financially, and everybody who I interviewed I sent it

895
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: to them ahead of time, like I made a Google

896
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: doc and I was like, here's a link. So like

897
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: all my all my financial foolishness, the good, the bad,

898
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 3: the ugly, everything, because I wanted them to like because

899
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: sometimes you forget to say things and this tends to

900
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: be the kind of stuff that they ask you anyway,

901
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: And it was so helpful, and I mean I encourage it.

902
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: Like I shared my budget, I shared how much Man

903
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: Superman made, Well we spend every month, you know what.

904
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: Things I was confused about, like how I set aside

905
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: money for my niece and my nephew, my god, so

906
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: like all everything, all things finance and how much money,

907
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, just everything. And so I found one and

908
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: it was funny because I interviewed fifteen women and like

909
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: three of them after seeing like my manifesto, was like

910
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: you know what, I actually think this person would be

911
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: best for you.

912
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: Her name is Angelie.

913
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: So it was so crazy that three people suggested her

914
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh okay, and so I ended

915
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: up and I was like, we'll see. I ended up

916
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: and actually came down to your helen this woman named Amy,

917
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: who was amazing and Angelie. I loved Amy but she

918
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: really only did personal finance and she didn't really infuse business.

919
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: Because I needed somebody who would also be able to

920
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: speak to my CFO and my accountant as well. And

921
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: so it came down to Helen and Angelie, and I

922
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: chose Angelie because not only she's CP, but she's also

923
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: a CPA, so a certified public accountant. So I just

924
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: love that extra aspect and she was as awesome as

925
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: everyone said. Actually, Helen came highly recommended as well, just

926
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: so you know, Mandy, Like when I interviewed people, like

927
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: those were the two that people kept.

928
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Saying, you know, who'll be great with you? Helen or Angelie?

929
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: You know?

930
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: Are they all on the x Y Planning Network?

931
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: No, this is just like I literally just posted in

932
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: the finicon group and elevate our black and Brown money group.

933
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: So I posted all over and like I you know,

934
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: I interviewed everyone that was like what about me? So

935
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: it was about fifteen to like sixteen seventeen people, and

936
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: so for like their name to come up over and over,

937
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, Helen, are you out here doing

938
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 3: something good?

939
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: Girl?

940
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: But like I said, I ended up choosing Angelie, So

941
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: it's because she just I felt like her skill set

942
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: suited really what I was looking for, and so Superman

943
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: and I have our first like meeting with her tomorrow.

944
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: So I'm so excited because I finally feel like like,

945
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: because I'm like both anal and and just I don't

946
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: want to say lazy. I have a hard time making

947
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: a move without like check check, double.

948
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Check, check check, doumble talk check when.

949
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: It comes to finances, and so I need someone to

950
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: be like, today, make the transfer. You can put that aside,

951
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: or you can buy that thing, or you know, like

952
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: so instead I put everything in super Safety just because

953
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I've been through so much post recession, so I really

954
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: needed someone who could like okay and say, Tiffany, you

955
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: don't need as much money and savings, Like if something

956
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: happened that needed as much money, you have a lot

957
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: more more trouble on your hands than like paying for it.

958
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: And so I'm just excited.

959
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: So that's one that I'll share kind of like my

960
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: journey with my financial plan. This is my first financial

961
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: plan that I've actually played paid like a lump sum

962
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: fee versus like them managing my portfolio. Because there's two

963
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: ways that typically financial plans can get paid.

964
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: You kind of pay them hourly.

965
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: For this is I pay her every quarter and then

966
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: I or you can pay someone gets paid like based

967
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: upon how much one of the yours is you're managing.

968
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: I actually requested that she doesn't manage my money. Then

969
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: it said I will manage, and I just manage based

970
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: upon her advice, because I've just been through too much

971
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: where somebody manages my money, they fall off the places

972
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: of the earth. Then I have to switch all my

973
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: accounts over to something new again, and I don't want

974
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: to go through that again. And so you know she

975
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: understood that. And so my second boost is just my

976
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: book Molly Moore. I probably haven't spoken about it in

977
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: a long time, but for those of you who are

978
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: early listeners, I have a my first ever children's book

979
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: that I wrote for preschool in kindergarten children, and it's

980
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: called Happy Birthday, Molly Moore. I'm actually gonna say I'll

981
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 3: send you a quick picture of the cover.

982
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: Mandy. She is so freaking adorable.

983
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this book today actually, and

984
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about it. Yeah weird, but yeah, yes, And.

985
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Then I have been secretly working on it. I don't know,

986
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: it's just like it's been like my baby I have.

987
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: I've not stopped.

988
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: It's not like like it's been like years in the making,

989
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: because honestly, I have gone through like so many different illustrators.

990
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: They just weren't right. I finally found out a publisher

991
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: she was. She's amazing, and I really wanted to own

992
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 3: because sometimes you go with the publisher, they like own

993
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: the rights.

994
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: I really wanted to publish her where it.

995
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: Was like almost half self publishing that I own everything,

996
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: but then half publisher where they give you the support

997
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: of like you know, of making sure you have distribution

998
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: for your book, because I really didn't want to like

999
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 3: self publish self published.

1000
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm gonna send this you right now, Mandra

1001
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: she is freaking adorable.

1002
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: This is the cover And don't mind the like the

1003
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: like the words.

1004
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: On it, because it's not going to look like that,

1005
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: but the cover is gonna look like that.

1006
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: She is so adorable. I wanted her to be chocolate

1007
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: like me. I wanted her to have hair like mine.

1008
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: She is. I just sent texted to you.

1009
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna say. Where am I looking at my own

1010
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: slack of myne email?

1011
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: Am I no? No Texas okay, uh huh.

1012
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: And I'm just really proud of it because the book

1013
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: itself is really well written, just because I'm working on

1014
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: it forever. But it's my introduction to introducing kids to

1015
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: what I call pre financial education, so like the basis

1016
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: of like a community, giving, sharing, selflessness, like things that

1017
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: give you the strong foundation that you need, uh for

1018
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: personal finance later. And I want this to be a series.

1019
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: And so Molly m a l I. Because I was like,

1020
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 3: y'all gonna get this African name.

1021
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I named my dog Molly. And I'm

1022
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: thinking it's like, you know, the white girl version first, but.

1023
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: Then you know who told me, you know Tanya Oh

1024
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: I forget band Court. So Tanya Vancourt has this awesome

1025
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: company called goal Setter, where it like lets kids like

1026
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: earn money for doing like good things and then it

1027
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: like saves them, saves them money for kids. And so

1028
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: Tanya Vancourt, I was sharing my book with her and

1029
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: I told her, oh, her name, the little girl's name

1030
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: is Molly, and She's like, oh my god, m a

1031
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: l I. One of my daughters her name her her

1032
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: friend's named Molly. And I was like, wait no, but yes, now.

1033
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: So because it was the white girl version of Molly,

1034
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: and I thought, how did I miss that?

1035
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: And so yes, m a l I because I want

1036
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: them to be in this undercurrent of although it's just

1037
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: a book about a little girl, I wanted to also

1038
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: teach this like undercurrent of like of like how Dora,

1039
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: although it's about a little girl, Dora speaks Spanish, so

1040
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: you're learning diversity as well as the book itself, you

1041
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1042
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love it.

1043
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: So cute, isn't it so adorable? One little chubby cheeks.

1044
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: So cute. I love the hair.

1045
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: So when does it come out? So January tenth, Oh perfect, yep.

1046
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: So that's so it comes out in the beginning of

1047
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: the year. Like I said, it's fully written. Illustrations are

1048
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: about ninety percent done. I just printed it out at

1049
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: Staples because I have to go through, like picture by

1050
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: picture to make sure that everything's like in alignment. But yeah,

1051
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: my illustrated Jazz McDaniel has been amazing. My creative director,

1052
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: Rihanna Lewis has been amazing. It just it's been like

1053
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: a two year process of actually when I wrote the

1054
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 3: book down to like getting to where it is now.

1055
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: It's a long time because you want to get the

1056
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: illustrations right. I didn't want I wanted her nose to

1057
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: look like, if you truly are a black little girl,

1058
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: this what your nose looks like. I wanted her to

1059
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: be a little chunky, because everyone's not a skinny mini.

1060
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: I wanted her hair to be like tightly coiled. I

1061
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: wanted it to be kinky like I didn't want like,

1062
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: you know, there's nothing wrong with Tea and Tamrow hair,

1063
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: but we have a lot of those characters already.

1064
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: I wanted her hair to be like how mine was, was

1065
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: like a cotton ball, you know. I wanted little girls

1066
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 2: who looked like me and who looked.

1067
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: Like Supergirl when they were growing up to also have

1068
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: someone to look at on the shelf, you know. And

1069
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: I feel like there wasn't enough of that, and that

1070
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: the messaging was, well, that's not as cute or as

1071
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: pretty as someone who looks a little bit more mixed,

1072
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: which I want girls to realize that no matter what

1073
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: you look like, there's.

1074
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: Beauty in it all. So I'm just excited that got

1075
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: a chunky, little, dark skinned girl with cotton ball hair.

1076
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: You know that it's like learning about like so the

1077
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: premise of this first book is the core value is

1078
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: learning that things are not as important as people. So

1079
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: it's her birthday, she gets a little greedy, gets more

1080
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: and more excited that it's her birthday versus like the

1081
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: people people that have come.

1082
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: To see her. At some point she puts the gifts

1083
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: above everyone else.

1084
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: They all go outside to enjoy, and when it's time

1085
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: to boil her candles, she looks around. She realizes she's

1086
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Speaker 3: in the house by herself, because she's kind of pushed

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Speaker 3: everyone away. And then she quickly realizes, yes, she quickly

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00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: realizes that that more it's not really more stuff, it's

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00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 3: really more hugs, more kisses, more family.

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Speaker 2: And she packs.

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00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: Out because like you get to see her gifts as

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00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: she accumulates them. She packs some of the things that

1093
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: she has extra of and she donates them, and so

1094
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: it's just a really great And then at the back,

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00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: I have a lesson plan for parents, extended questions so

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00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: you can really lean into the story with your reader.

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00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: So that's like the teacher in me. So if you're

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00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: someone who's like, I don't why I teach my child

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Speaker 3: not to be so selfish.

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Speaker 2: So you're like, well, here's a great book.

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00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: To teach them lesson. And so it rhymes too, Mandy,

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Speaker 3: It's so cute. There's my favorite.

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00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Well did you write it?

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00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote it. I wrote it, and.

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00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: So it's like a poem.

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00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: Well no, it's just I mean, I guess, but it's

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00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: it's it rhymed without feeling like I don't know how

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00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: to say rhymes. Yes, no, it's just like so there

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00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: is kind of like a course ish where there's a

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00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: part where it goes each time a new guest comes

1111
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 3: to the door, more, says Molly, more and more and more.

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Speaker 3: And you see. What I love is that you get

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00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 3: to count. So there's like a point where she's getting

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00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: all these gifts.

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00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: It's like two cats.

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00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: Three dogs, a burden, a bat, three fish, three I

1117
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: don't know, three doors, something and a cat. So like

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00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: it rhymes, but kids actually get to count because you

1119
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: see the picture and you're like, oh, I see the

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00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: three cats, I see the six dogs. Because if you

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00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: know money and math, the counting is as a core

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00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: is a core tenant to learning financial education because you're

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Speaker 3: counting money eventually. So I just really try to think

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00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: of all the components that a three to six year

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00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: old would.

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Speaker 2: Need counting matching even rhyming.

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00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't think people understand that rhyming is a precursor

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00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 3: to math and financial education because rhyming is keeping on beat,

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00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: and when you're keeping on beat, your matching and matching

1130
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: is a component to math. And so I just was

1131
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 3: really intentional about intentional even though it's like this cute story,

1132
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: it's really intentional that it's teaching your kids in like

1133
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: seven different ways.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I can't wait. Okay, so save me

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00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: a copy. Of course, it's signed please.

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00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: Yes to the new Baby. Of course, I'm really excited. Honestly,

1137
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, you just feel like this is my passion project.

1138
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: So you just feel like you know something that you're

1139
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: working on for no other reason other than it's just

1140
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: this thing in you you want to express. So you know,

1141
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: it would be awesome if it becomes this huge success.

1142
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: But just to see it done, I mean, just to

1143
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: print it at Staples and have the woman who printed

1144
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: it out say.

1145
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: This is amazing. Is it on shelves?

1146
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: She wanted to buy it for her daughter, and that's

1147
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: what I wanted to She was a a Hispanic young woman.

1148
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: She was like, I love the fact that she's so chocolate.

1149
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: My daughter is chocolate. I would love this book, and

1150
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: I just was like, yes, that's what I'm wanting. I'm

1151
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: wanting all little girls to be able to enjoy it,

1152
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: but I want especially brown ambition girls to feel a

1153
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: special kindred spirit with it.

1154
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: She's stinking cute. I love it, can't wait. Congratulations. And

1155
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: you're self publishing right?

1156
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: No, So I've used a publisher called wyse Ink and

1157
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: so it's run by a woman, which I love, a

1158
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: woman owned and operated and she's a It's a hybrid

1159
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: where I get to keep all of my all of

1160
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: my rights and stuff.

1161
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: But they help with distribution.

1162
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: Oh nice. So is it going to be in like bookstores?

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: That's what I like about it, but without the fact that, like,

1165
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: you know, they own anything, because I was like, really

1166
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: big to me. I didn't want the like you know,

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00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: I want to be able to one day hopefully you'll

1168
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: see this so on Nickelodeon or Disney or whatever.

1169
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: But I want to own Molly Moore because I don't.

1170
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't want it to.

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00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: I want to be able to decide what the story

1172
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: is like. I don't want her to become stereotypical anything right.

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I can't wait to meet her. Thank

1174
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: you all of them. Give me a subscription to all

1175
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: the series. Awesome, Well this was the show.

1176
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and now it's time to say goodbye to all

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00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: a family.

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00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: B r r own mbish. I swear I know how

1179
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: to spell most days.

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00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that was actually one of the better times you've

1181
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: tried to spell brown ambitions.

1182
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, are we brown? Yes, it's been awesome. I can't

1183
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: wait to see your baby bow.

1184
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: You know it's I do have a bump. I was

1185
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: telling Tiffany, don't tell pregnant ladies they don't have a bump.

1186
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes we do, damn it, because when you say I

1187
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: don't have a bump, it makes me feel like you

1188
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: think I always look this way. Oh, like I've had

1189
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: ten burritos. How dare you? How dare are you? Yeah? Man,

1190
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: it's coming along. Baby's kicking already. I can feel it

1191
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: squirming in there. It's very creepy. All kicks you all

1192
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, but right now it's so tiny,

1193
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: just feels like a little squid or something.

1194
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, you're literally growing alike. Isn't that crazy?

1195
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: What women can do?

1196
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: It is mother nature just happening. Yeah, I yes, And

1197
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: to shout out to the listener who told me about

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00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: her her two obsession with YouTube videos on childbirth. I

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Speaker 1: have watched additional ones. I've heard Netflix has its own

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00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: documentary section on child labor. I will be copying some

1201
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: of those.

1202
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Videos as well.

1203
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: I want all the gore. I want to know every

1204
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: possible outcome.

1205
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: Are you doing moss classes?

1206
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: I guess I have to.

1207
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1208
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: There's definitely like pre there's definitely like I was, Yes,

1209
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: my hospital offers actually if you're if you're thinking about

1210
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: having a kid. I didn't realize how many programs hospitals offer,

1211
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: like I get I've been doing prenatal yoga at my

1212
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: hospital and yeah, and they have tons of classes for

1213
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: new parents. I think when we get back from the

1214
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: baby moon, that's kind of like the halfway point. I mean,

1215
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm halfway now, but I think when we get back,

1216
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: that's when it's gonna get really real. The clock's gonna

1217
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: be taken, and we're gonna sign up for some classes together.

1218
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: Because it's my husband's turn to start worrying about stuff too.

1219
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: And why now he's like you good, He's.

1220
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: Like cool, we get to go to Shakeshack again. This

1221
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: is great.

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Speaker 2: I love that