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Speaker 1: all of the conversations about money, whether it's Luca with

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Speaker 1: We should have seen all of it coming and nothing

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Speaker 1: we're talking about money, but we're not saying anything new.

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Speaker 1: for me. Backstage, there are people walking in and out.

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Speaker 1: having a great time, getting ready for a great concert tonight.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking to you about sports. But here's the reality.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about money because I think we

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Speaker 1: need a perspective check. Now we'll get to Michael. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to Luke, I should say, in just a minute.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to Luca in just a minute. Signs of

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Speaker 1: mega deal. You just heard it in the update. What's

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Speaker 1: it mean? We'll answer that, But let's start with MICHAEH. Parsons,

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Speaker 1: because it's not that long ago that my phone was

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Speaker 1: blowing up. About a day ago, twenty four hours ago.

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Speaker 1: My phone's blowing up everybody over at Yeah, who's saying, man,

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Speaker 1: we need a video. Mike is demanding a trade. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at and all of a sudden, it's making

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything. Hell on ice water too, Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: cool man, you want to trade? So what Nothing's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen here? Like there's a very serious yeah butt to

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Speaker 1: all of this, And the yeah butt is that Micah

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Speaker 1: doesn't control any of his own destiny. At some point,

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Speaker 1: you just have to accept where you are in all

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Speaker 1: of this. And I get it. He wants more money.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Let me say clearly, he deserves more money.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think the Cowboys have done it

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Speaker 1: taken this deal and they've made it more expensive. They've

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Speaker 1: made it a pain in the butt. They've done the

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Speaker 1: And do any of you really believe that Michah Parsons

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Michael Parsons is going anywhere? Why because

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Speaker 1: it would even remotely make the Cowboys comfortable? How many

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Speaker 1: I think the number there is historic. But then above

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Speaker 1: and beyond that, why would at any point right now

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones press pause. He's made it clear whether we

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Speaker 1: Last time I checked, Jerry Jones, not a spring chicken, right,

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Speaker 1: does it mean for mic is deal nothing? Because realistically,

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Speaker 1: over again. What's your recourse if you're Michael Parsons to

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Speaker 1: Would you be willing to set out that long? Are

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Speaker 1: you willing to miss all of those game checks? God?

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Speaker 1: How many times do we talk about this? At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, Every single negotiation is some sort

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Speaker 1: because those hundreds of millions of dollars. So Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: So that doesn't speak to any trade happening. Michael Parson

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Speaker 1: his feelings hurt. You know what helps hurt feelings. How

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Speaker 1: In six months, you'll be tired of the money you make,

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Speaker 1: You know what's gonna make Michael Parsons want to be

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Speaker 1: Like there's a reason, look at look at all of

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Speaker 1: Luca goes into a deep dive on what didn't go

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Speaker 1: Lebron is not the main focus of this team. He's

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Speaker 1: if you're the Lakers, you really can't give a damn.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Lakers, the only thing you care about

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Speaker 1: Luca is everything that he can be for the next

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Speaker 1: they tell me that we've got you technical. Technical goblins

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Speaker 5: You sure do, Hi, Bob oh Man.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I've never been happier to hear your

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Speaker 1: sensual voice. I've I will say, there's a fine system

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Speaker 1: for being late, right, Like there's a there's a late

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Speaker 1: fee fine, Like.

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Speaker 6: There's no hilarious that you played a whole concert today,

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Speaker 6: made it on time, got your connections figured out, and

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Speaker 6: still I'm the one with the problems.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, man, like you would

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Speaker 5: Well that's what Mary and and Ian are here for.

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Speaker 5: And the rest of the crew.

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Speaker 1: There trying to get you connected because you were out

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Speaker 1: here Willy Nilly and Nashville just to do whatever.

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Speaker 5: Probably we can't multit ask what happened.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean they're they're out here trying to figure

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Speaker 5: By Sorry I got fined.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't put you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't find me this late?

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Speaker 8: You can you were taking care of It's a late fine.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it was late, y'all are worse than a

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Speaker 5: I just valid though the fine was valid. Yeah, hell yeah, I.

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Speaker 9: Just couldn't do it at the moment because you know,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just curious what time you all

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Speaker 1: have your doctor's appointment, because jealousy is a disease, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Jealousy is a disease. I think we'll get the care

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Speaker 1: of it, and you have it. You have it while

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Speaker 1: we have the vaccine. After the after the show, when

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Speaker 1: you guys go back to your normal whatever normal people

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Speaker 5: Of whatever normal people do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna sit in front of six thousand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up in front of six thousand people.

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Speaker 1: Just walk out there.

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Speaker 5: You're really taking a step back in.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, that's a tough scene. Wow wow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, So now that we've now that I've been

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Speaker 1: All right, so look, all I'm saying Buck is that

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Speaker 1: I don't really care that Luca got a massive deal

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Speaker 1: was acquired, right, Like, what what is newsworthy about? Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, this thing I thought what happened actually happened.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, the fact that he looks physically the way

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Speaker 6: being a little tongue in cheek in our group text

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Speaker 1: Never he is a new man. He is out there

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Speaker 1: like he's out in the LA streets, like come on, like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Little Why he found the mancha since he moved from

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Speaker 5: Is that? Is that what we're alleging.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, and that you know, the the said gently.

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Speaker 1: I just think, okay, like I'm just gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe there's a you know, he's he's got

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Speaker 1: Like you know, it's it's a little easier to just

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Speaker 5: Candy, Is that what you're doing in the in the you.

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Speaker 6: Know, strenic streets of Connecticut.

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Speaker 5: Because you wherever? I don't. I can't. I don't even

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Speaker 1: Ever heard of the Whaler's Buck? Ever heard of the Whalers?

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Speaker 5: I sure haven't. I don't think. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: Ask your mom? Okay?

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Speaker 5: So uh yeah, come on what.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. I was just saying that because his

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Speaker 5: I'm glad, I'm here. Are you sure you're glad? I'm here?

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Speaker 5: Are you sure?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay. All I'm saying though, is Luca looks great.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Lucas signed a big deal. That's awesome the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Nothing changed for the Lakers in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: That didn't change in the last six months. Like, Lebron

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Speaker 5: Now wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean Lebron's irrelevant?

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Speaker 5: What does that mean? That's just that.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean he's irrelevant?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's irrelevant to their plans? Like he is? He? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't.

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Speaker 6: Give an indication Have they given you that Lebron James

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Speaker 6: is irrelevant to their plans?

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Speaker 1: Well, he didn't know about the acquisition of DeAndre eight

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Speaker 1: in this offseason, which happened at least according to.

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Speaker 5: Post which is what he said, which is you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Saw people today saying, like, you know, he wasn't at

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Speaker 1: the press conference or whatever. But like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: what indication do you have? Did they give a damn

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Speaker 1: what he wants?

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Speaker 8: It?

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Speaker 1: Just if you're trying to win a title in the

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Speaker 1: next five years, do you really care about where Lebron

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Speaker 1: falls in all of that? Well?

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Speaker 6: No, I think what you're what you're maybe not discerning

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Speaker 6: there or maybe failing to articulate not that you aren't

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Speaker 6: a very articular person.

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Speaker 5: But should they care versus do they care? Should they care?

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Speaker 5: Probably not.

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Speaker 6: At this stage of his career, we understand what Lebron

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Speaker 6: James is, and while he's still a higher level basketball

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Speaker 6: player than anybody else, you know, at forty, he his

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Speaker 6: level of you know, contribution to the team or how

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Speaker 6: much that should factor into the team building strategy that

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Speaker 6: should not matter as much as it probably does matter

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Speaker 6: to the Lakers organization that values him as much for

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Speaker 6: the marketing as they do for the on court product.

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Speaker 5: You disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think that the reason that Luca was on the

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Speaker 1: cover of Men's Health is because they realize they've got

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Speaker 1: to market their next superstar looking.

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Speaker 6: Wortica was on the cover of Men's Health because he

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Speaker 6: was fat and he likes beer.

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Speaker 5: And now he doesn't look that way anymore.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Like that's why Luca was on the cover of

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Speaker 6: Men's Health, not because the Lakers are putting a putting a.

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Speaker 5: P R push together. I just that's probably true too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers. To me, the Lakers are they're

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Speaker 1: keen on making sure they assigned. Like look, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: if you are just looking at the Lakers portion of

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Speaker 1: his career, only the Lakers portion of his career, not

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Speaker 1: the entirety of the brand, just the Lakers portion of

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Speaker 1: his career. Lebron isn't even a mount Rushmore guy for

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Speaker 1: the franchise. Well what are we talking about here? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you just the Lakers portion of his career, Lebron's

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Speaker 1: just he's in the chapter of pretty good Lakers. He's

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Speaker 1: not even the chapter of the great Ones. So why

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Speaker 1: did they give it? Am? I get your point that

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Speaker 1: you know, the league's always gonna care about Lebron, and

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Speaker 1: as a brand, you're always gonna care about the money

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Speaker 1: that Lebron brings in. But like, if you are truly

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Speaker 1: the Lakers and you're building for your your next championship

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Speaker 1: and this championship era under whatever it's gonna look like,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Luca, why do you care about Lebron?

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Speaker 6: Well, for all the reasons that you keep telling me

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Speaker 6: that people need to care about sports because he's more

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Speaker 6: interesting than he is important Fitcy and that seems like

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Speaker 6: it's right up your alley.

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Speaker 1: I hate it when you use my own logga Maru,

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Speaker 1: give us the update so that I can distract Buck

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Speaker 1: long enough to try and beat him on the other

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Speaker 1: side with Morgan and thank.

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Speaker 5: You for bailing me out, Martin, No problem and good luck.

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Speaker 10: You got about ninety seconds fits, so ready set, I'm

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Speaker 10: just kidding, all right. Like Curs and Luca, don just

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Speaker 10: have agreed toated three year, one hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 10: million dollars maximum contract extension that contains a player option.

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Speaker 10: In twenty twenty eight, the Broncos and defensive lineman Zach

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Speaker 10: Allen I have agreed to a four year, one hundred

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Speaker 10: and two million dollars deal. The Links beat the Aces

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Speaker 10: today one hundred and eleven of fifty eight. It's the

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Speaker 10: largest road margin of victory and WNBA history. That's with

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Speaker 10: the FISA Collier leaving the game due to injury. Her

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Speaker 10: head coach says, you left for imaging.

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Speaker 5: No update yet.

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Speaker 10: Pro Football of Fame Class of twenty twenty five has

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Speaker 10: been enshrined into Canton defensive van Jared Allen, defensive back

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Speaker 10: Eric Allen, wide receiver Sterling Sharp, and tight end Antonio Gates.

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Speaker 10: All the newest class s Deurnley Sharp joining his brother

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Speaker 10: Shannon Sharp in the Hall of Fame. They're the first

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Speaker 10: brothers to be in the Pro Football Game and Pro

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Speaker 10: Football Hall of Fame and tight end Antonio Gates is

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Speaker 10: the first player to be inducted into the Hall of

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Speaker 10: Fame who has not PLU did not play college football.

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Speaker 5: So there you go. Just a case that's ever on

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Speaker 5: your bar trivia card.

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Speaker 10: Let's see Major League Baseball Minnesota in Cleveland right now

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Speaker 10: four a piece in the eighth inning. Milwaukee with an

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Speaker 10: eight to two lead over Washington. In the ninth Detroit

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Speaker 10: trying their best to give up this lead to Philly

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Speaker 10: is seven to five now in the eighth inning. Houston

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Speaker 10: and Boston the Red Sox with the seven to three

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Speaker 10: lead in the eighth. In the ninth inning, Miami has

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Speaker 10: a two tonzing lead over the Yankees. The Mets faring better.

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Speaker 10: They have a seven to four lead over the Giants

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Speaker 10: in the seventh and Texas and Seattle ninth inning.

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Speaker 5: Two apiece.

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Speaker 6: Back to you guys, appreciate you Martin. It's Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 6: He's chasing fitz on Buck Rising. The sports gods have

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Speaker 6: blessed us because we have both Lakers news and Cowboys news.

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Speaker 6: As we hang out with you for the next couple

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Speaker 6: of hours, and our buddy R J. O'hoa of blogging

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Speaker 6: the Boys. He covers the Dallas Cowboys of course at

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Speaker 6: ESP Nation. You know him well if you follow that

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Speaker 6: team has been documenting it all. Now we've got the

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Speaker 6: contract dispute between Micah Parsons and the Cowboys and the

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Speaker 6: agent's not involved and Jerry's not worried about it. R J,

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Speaker 6: are you having fun? I know that you know that

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Speaker 6: you at least have something to talk about if you're

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Speaker 6: not outright enjoying the mess that this organization continues to

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Speaker 6: make with another one of its star players.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 11: Look, I'm a father. I have a three year old,

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Speaker 11: so the ability to put food on my table is

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Speaker 11: one that I'm not ungrateful for. But that being said,

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Speaker 11: as the Dallas Cowboys fan, you know, we've seen better times,

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Speaker 11: and I think it's important to underscore that it is

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Speaker 11: highly annoying. It is incredibly it is supremely petty. But

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Speaker 11: this is also super normal, Like we are well conditioned

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Speaker 11: to this toxicity, and so it's kind of part for

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Speaker 11: the course in that sense.

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Speaker 1: R Jay. I started the show without Buck being able

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Speaker 1: to push back from me, So I'll let you push

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Speaker 1: back here. Why do we care? Like, just hear me out.

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to get done anyway. This's

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Speaker 1: just is posturing and this is what the Cowboys do

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Speaker 1: and money solves everything. So am I missing something?

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Speaker 11: I think that's a really good question for the national audience.

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Speaker 11: Why do we care? I obviously from a local perspective,

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Speaker 11: if you follow the team, it is frustrating, right Like,

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Speaker 11: if you know this key's success is something that you

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Speaker 11: care about, then I think you care about this to

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Speaker 11: your point, it is maddening because we do know how

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Speaker 11: this ends. This ends with the Cowboys giving Mike a

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Speaker 11: blank check, patting themselves on the back, trying to sell

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Speaker 11: a T shirt about it all, and asking like this

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Speaker 11: was the plan all the long, completely ignoring the logic

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Speaker 11: of how they costed themselves a lot of money and

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Speaker 11: the opportunity to improve their roster. And so I think

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Speaker 11: if there is a reason to care, it's because this

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Speaker 11: is what is the expression, like the Emperor showing himself

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Speaker 11: without their clothes or whatever. I do believe on a

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Speaker 11: national level, people are catching on again. I mean, I

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Speaker 11: recognize that people believe the Cowboys are about their brand

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Speaker 11: and whatnot, But if you examined the events of the

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Speaker 11: last sixteen months since they had their doors blown off

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Speaker 11: by the Packers in the wild card round, they have

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Speaker 11: done nothing but live up to the stereotypes when they

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Speaker 11: had done a lot of work for about fifteen years

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Speaker 11: to fight back against that, and I've fought that fight

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Speaker 11: on their behalf. But these last eighteen months they have

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Speaker 11: done nothing but act as if all they care about

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Speaker 11: is ratings and do things so that they will get

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Speaker 11: talked about and treat it like free publicity and free

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Speaker 11: pr And so I guess in that sense you kind

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Speaker 11: of care because the fourth wall is breaking a little bit.

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Speaker 11: That might be the best answer I can conjure.

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Speaker 6: Up r j Ochoa of sp Nation that covers the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys here with us on Fox or It's Saturday. Of course,

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Speaker 6: the Michael Parsons thing is at the top of the

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Speaker 6: NFL headlines, the statement that he put out our j

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Speaker 6: Micah specifically.

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Speaker 5: I know Jerry spoke it on it.

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Speaker 6: He just kind of chalked it up to it's part

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Speaker 6: of the negotiation process. But I just can't understand how

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Speaker 6: somebody who's done this as long as Jerry has, who

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Speaker 6: understands that the agents are supposed to be there so

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Speaker 6: that the players don't get for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 6: but hurt about how the negotiation process is going. And

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Speaker 6: I read this three page statement from Michael Parsons that

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Speaker 6: we don't have all the time in the world to

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Speaker 6: go with now, and I just have to feel like

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Speaker 6: and as I see his teammates in the locker room

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Speaker 6: changing their profile pictures to be Michah Parsons and lending

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Speaker 6: support via social media and things like that, how much

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Speaker 6: damage do you think that this does the locker room,

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Speaker 6: whether or not Michaeh Parsons gets his money, which we

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Speaker 6: all do.

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Speaker 5: Expect him to get.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the fans who are coping are trying

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Speaker 11: to spin this into well, Jerry has sort of reverse

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Speaker 11: made Micah the leader that he wanted him to be,

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Speaker 11: right like, everyone is rallying around him, And I suppose

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Speaker 11: you could draw that conclusion. Although there are a lot

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Speaker 11: more efficient ways to go about that process, it is

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Speaker 11: worth mentioning. I agree with you, Buck. I think that

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Speaker 11: you know, even if they won, the Cowboys did, like

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Speaker 11: how they view it to be a win from a

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Speaker 11: contractual standpoint, would would it be worth it at this point?

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Speaker 11: And I think we all agree they're not going to win,

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Speaker 11: But even if they did, would it be worth it

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Speaker 11: to have not only burned a bridge with one of

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Speaker 11: your players, but the best player on your team and

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Speaker 11: subsequently everyone who falls in line behind him again to just,

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Speaker 11: you know, accent all of the things that everyone believes

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Speaker 11: to be true. It's a really difficult thing for someone

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Speaker 11: to live up to your worst assumptions about them. And

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Speaker 11: that's what the Cowboys Fronopsis is doing in this process.

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Speaker 11: And so I don't find there to be a gain,

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Speaker 11: which is why you do have to if you're trying

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Speaker 11: to apply loger to the situation, believe that it is

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Speaker 11: for the purposes of attention. It is not conduced as

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Speaker 11: to winning. It's a poor situation to put Brian shot

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Speaker 11: high Man, who's a first time head coach. And you know,

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Speaker 11: while they haven't changed their profile pictures, Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 11: Cdelam have also been vocal about this. They said, yeah,

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Speaker 11: you know, and I'm paraphrasing. I don't mean to put

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Speaker 11: words in their mouth, but they've said things to the

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Speaker 11: effect of it is silly that that this has to

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Speaker 11: be the process, and we've done that, We've crawled through

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Speaker 11: that kind of like Andy Dufrain, and unfortunately it's Mike

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Speaker 11: return at this point. But to answer the question, I mean,

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Speaker 11: the long way of getting here is there is no benefit.

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Speaker 11: I mean because again, even if you did save pennies

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Speaker 11: relative to the salary cap space, you pissed off and

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Speaker 11: alienated all of the most important people in your building.

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Speaker 11: And I mean today was a circus act in Oxnard,

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Speaker 11: right like everyone's they're championing about Michael while they're trying

650
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Speaker 11: to work and get ready to take on the reigning

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Speaker 11: world champions in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I love what you just said about the Star speaking out.

653
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Speaker 1: That part does feel strange to me. What do we

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Speaker 1: make of big name players being willing to use their

655
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Speaker 1: podium right now, which doesn't feel necessarily the same as

656
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Speaker 1: prior generations when it came to Jerry and his business.

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Speaker 11: I completely agree with you that that is a reality.

658
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Speaker 11: And now I am not presenting some sort of naive

659
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Speaker 11: disposition that like watch out, guys, you know, like this

660
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 11: is the reckoning, like we're watching everyone really take down

661
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Speaker 11: to Joneses. But I do think that this started with

662
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 11: DeMarcus Lawrence almost a decade ago. He played the franchise

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Speaker 11: tag dance with the team and ultimately got them to

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Speaker 11: blink and want and then Dak Prescott was the most

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Speaker 11: visible example of it. And we've all had the conversations

666
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Speaker 11: about how you're cutting your nose off just by your face,

667
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Speaker 11: you're betting against yourself, whatever. And so a point I've

668
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Speaker 11: been trying to make lately is that Micah began these

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Speaker 11: negotiations with the benefit of the doubt on his side,

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Speaker 11: but the court of public opinion on his side in

671
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Speaker 11: a way that Dak and CD didn't. And some of

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Speaker 11: that is also because Dak's the quarterback and people think

673
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Speaker 11: he sucks no matter what, right like Mike is universally

674
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Speaker 11: regarded as this all world talent. So everyone with a

675
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Speaker 11: brain is looking at this and saying, like, what are

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Speaker 11: y'all doing? And I think that has even Micah's teammates

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Speaker 11: some courage to be able to step out and to

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Speaker 11: speak out. And I also would add that it probably

679
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 11: isn't helping the Joneses cause that they're taking shots at

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Speaker 11: other players. I'm sure you all have discussed. In the

681
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Speaker 11: opening press conference to start training camps, Jerry was asked

682
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Speaker 11: how common players like Trayvon and Davis and Terrence Steel.

683
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Speaker 11: It did get extensions done early when players like Micah

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Speaker 11: and Dak and Ced have had to wait. And Jerry,

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Speaker 11: I mean, like in front of the entire crowd, in

686
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Speaker 11: the entire world, said well, to be frank, should we

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Speaker 11: have waited on those guys? And it's like, dude, those

688
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 11: those guys are on your roster, Like, what are.

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Speaker 1: You doing here?

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Speaker 11: Man? And Trayvon is one of Micah's closest friends on

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Speaker 11: the team, and so you know, I think that you know,

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Speaker 11: Jerry and Steven are kind of daring the team. I mean,

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Speaker 11: Steven had a quote last week where he said, Mike's

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Speaker 11: got a want to be paid, and so I think

695
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Speaker 11: everyone's just kind of sick of the petulant and sick

696
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 11: of the pettiness. And so it isn't hard right to

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00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 11: stand with Micah Parsons, right, And so I think that's

698
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Speaker 11: also why some of these dudes are jumping on the brigade.

699
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Speaker 11: But it is a matter of like the Atrice taking

700
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Speaker 11: the toll after toll after toll, and now you have

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Speaker 11: this superhero who can kind of lead the charge against

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Speaker 11: you know, the Dead Star.

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Speaker 5: So to speak.

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Speaker 6: Last one for you RJ and thirty seconds or less

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Speaker 6: if you could, and we do appreciate you spending some

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Speaker 6: time with us this afternoon. Brian Schottenheimer, does he regret

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Speaker 6: taking this job?

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Speaker 11: I don't think so, and I know you gave me

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Speaker 11: thirty seconds the last. Ultimately, what it always comes down

710
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 11: to with your cowboys, if there are thirty two of

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Speaker 11: them right like you can very easily. We've all convinced ourselves,

712
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 11: whether it's a job or an opportunity in life, to

713
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 11: be like, it's worth it. I can make it work.

714
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Speaker 11: I can make it work, I can make it happen whatever.

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Speaker 11: And you know what, Brian Steinheimer's ever gotten another head

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Speaker 11: coaching job. I don't know, but the issue would suggest

717
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Speaker 11: probably not so. I think he, you know, wishes it

718
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 11: were different. But I guess the best answer to that

719
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Speaker 11: is to say, I think Mike McCarthy's enjoying his Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 6: At Rjocho is where you follow him as v Nation

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Speaker 6: Cowboys coverage.

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Speaker 5: RJ. Thank you for the time, sir, Thanks brother, of

723
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Speaker 5: course you'll have a good weekend. That's the man. Rjoho,

724
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 5: what do you think about that fitzing?

725
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Speaker 1: Look, we got to take a break when we come back.

726
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: What RJ just said about Schottenheimer and about the Cowboys

727
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: is the reason the entire franchise is lost. I'll tell

728
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Speaker 1: you what I mean next. It's Fox Sports Saturday on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. You're

730
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Everybody likes to feel special, especially if you're the Dallas Cowboys.

732
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 6: But what happens when your own words, your own actions,

733
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 6: your own approach to doing business around the organization that

734
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 6: you want to be the most special in all of

735
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 6: America's favorite sport, once you start to denigrate that level

736
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: of specialness, especially if you haven't done much winning of late,

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Speaker 6: It's Fox Sports Saturday. He's Jason Fitz. I'm Buck Rising,

738
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Speaker 6: hanging out here with you for the next hour and ten.

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Speaker 5: We're happy to have you.

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00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 6: And of course, the Cowboys are a subject of discussion

741
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 6: basically anywhere that you look, anywhere that you turn. I mean,

742
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 6: that's a normal case of events. But FITZI heard something

743
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 6: from our last guest, r J o'choa that really seem

744
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: to catch his attention about just how less special that

745
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: Cowboys job feels.

746
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Speaker 5: Of late, you know, you.

747
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Asked RJ if Shoddy regrets taking the job, and the

748
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: answer was sort of, well, you never regret it because

749
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: there's only thirty two of them. I am the fan,

750
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: as everyone knows, of a football team that sucks. When

751
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: you are the fan of the football team that sucks,

752
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, eventually it gets so bad that when you're

753
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: hiring coaches or you're looking for players, somebody will say, hey,

754
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Speaker 1: there's only thirty two of them. Well, like you reach

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00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: the very very bottom, just the absolute bottom of de

756
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: cesspool of fandom is when you see somebody say, well, no,

757
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: nobody wants that job, but there's only thirty two of them,

758
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: so somebody's gonna take. That's what you say about the

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00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Browns after an oh in sixteen season. That's what you

760
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: say about the Jets after just failure after failure after failure.

761
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: That's what you say about the Raiders after sixteen coaches

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Speaker 1: in thirty two years. The there you know somebody's gonna

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00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna want the job. When you're saying that about

764
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, damn, like my god, and it's gotten so bad.

765
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Speaker 1: Think about the context of how ourj put that. Not

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00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: only is it well Schottenheimer doesn't regret it because there's

767
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: only you know, only thirty two of them, which means

768
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: nobody else is really gonna want, you know, that job.

769
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Speaker 1: That's where the Cowboys are. They got to beg for

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00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: somebody that nobody else was trying to hire and that

771
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: nobody else was trying to bring in as their head

772
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: coach that we know of, and that's the person that

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00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: then decides on the Cowboys because well, there's only thirty

774
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: two job openings. Like when did the Cowboys get that low?

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Speaker 5: Right about now? That seems I mean serious answer, Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 6: You know, I know people are down on it because

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00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: it's not a sexy high or whatever. And I've only

778
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: had the opportunity to you can find me for this

779
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: mayor if you want to. I've only had the opportunity

780
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: to talk to the man once or twice because he

781
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: lives in Nashville and he was on my flight down

782
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: to owners meetings to Palm Beach this past March.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

784
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 6: I don't know this man, and Mike vrabel is introducing

785
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 6: me on a plane while bullying me at the same time,

786
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 6: So it's not necessarily an advantageous position for me to

787
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 6: start throwing out nicknames for a man who doesn't know me,

788
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 6: who's sitting there just trying to enjoy his flight down

789
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 6: to Palm Beach with his wife. But either way, the

790
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 6: Schottenneimer may be better than they deserve because he's willing

791
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 6: to do the job, and you know, because he's got

792
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 6: a unique background, and I know he wasn't the best coordinator,

793
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 6: hasn't been the best coordinator.

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Speaker 5: But those guys can be good head coaches.

795
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Speaker 6: It's not just an nexus and O's job, and the

796
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 6: Cowboys may luck out with somebody who is actually going

797
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 6: to be able to do that job well, because God knows,

798
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: there's not a lot of people that would sit there

799
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: Grenn and Barrett through a Jerry Jones press conference while

800
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 6: the owner is actively pissing off every player in the

801
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 6: locker room that you're having to oversee and you're having

802
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 6: to get to work in one direction. It's just a

803
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 6: different kind of vibe. When Brian Schottenheimer's, you know call

804
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: a rallying cry for the troops is, hey, the owner

805
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 6: doesn't believe in you, Let's go out there and show

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00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 6: him otherwise.

807
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: It's craziness.

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Speaker 1: So here's the one thing that I always look at

809
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: when you talk about the Cowboys in general. Mike McCarthy

810
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: was not a terrible head coach, Jason Garrett was not

811
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: a terrible head coach. Wade Phillips, Bill Parcells, like I

812
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: keep going through the list. Jerry Jones doesn't hire disasters

813
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a overall because their expectation has never

814
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: met on the field, and because of the way that

815
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: we talk about them, we feel like they are just

816
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: at the worst of the worst of the worst of

817
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: the worst. They are not like more more likely than not.

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00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: If you just look at how coaching hires go for

819
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, He's going to have a coach that wins

820
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games a bunch of times, and they

821
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs a bunch of times, and they

822
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: don't win a Super Bowl. Like He's actually pretty good

823
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: identifying a decent head coach. He's just not good at

824
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: identifying that guy that's like the oh my God, holy cow,

825
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: that's the guy that God had done head coach. That

826
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: may not be a strength. I don't think there's any

827
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: chance the Schottenheimer's a disaster because Jerry hasn't hired a

828
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: disaster in a very long time. So like. The hard

829
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: part about this conversation is that we're talking about the

830
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys like they are a disaster when they're not. Their

831
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: record on the field is not disastrous. Their record on

832
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: the field is mediocre, so like, But because we have

833
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: this heightened expectation, mediocre is perceived as disastrous it should.

834
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Speaker 5: Be for them, it is mediocre is disaster.

835
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Speaker 1: But this comes back to what we always say, like

836
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Speaker 1: for them, No, it's still mediocre. The Cowboys are. The

837
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys are who we thought they were. Their mediocre. It's

838
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: not my fault Cowboys fans think that they're great. It's

839
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: a mediocre, no mediocre.

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Speaker 5: Franch fan base.

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Speaker 6: RJ is a fan that covers the team fitsy and

842
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 6: you hear how resigned he is to the idea that

843
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: his organization, the organization that he both covers and actively

844
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: roots for, is not special in any way.

845
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Speaker 5: Just one of thirty two.

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Speaker 6: That is an indictment on the Cowboy That is a

847
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 6: mission from the fan base that they are not what

848
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 6: they think that they are supposed to be.

849
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: The snake Kid is not what it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: That cannot help. But if you keep looking in the

851
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: mirror and you think you're a nine, and it's like, no,

852
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: you're not a nine. You're a Paduca nine, which is

853
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: like a la four.

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Speaker 5: I am a nine.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're a nine to me, like a perfect ten.

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00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: For the I have no teas you're listening to Fox

857
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. The Cowboys are in the news, as the

858
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys are always in the news for soap opera reasons.

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Speaker 1: I guess my question is for what in all of

860
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: this conversation, No matter what happens for Michael Parsons right now,

861
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: the real question we should be asking ourselves is are

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00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys actually a Super Bowl contender? And if

863
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: the answer is no, why do we care so much

864
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: about the money that they're not spending. He's Buck Rising

865
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: on Jason Fitz. It's Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Saturday,

866
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: coming at you live from the Fox Sports Studios, which

867
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: in bucks case means Nashville, Tennessee, and in my case

868
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: means I am hanging out backstage at the Hartford Healthcare

869
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: Amphitheater in Bridgeport, Connecticut, where I will be tonight sitting

870
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: in with a little Big Town playing a playing a

871
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: little bit of a fiddle with the with the band,

872
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: sitting in some people player show just just you know,

873
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm welcoming the fine right now, I'm trying to get fined.

874
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: Uh that that? Oh okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna ven.

875
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 5: I don't think that's actually my venmo?

876
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Is it not? Or you're just trying to back me.

877
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 5: Why what's gonna.

878
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 7: Happen happen in scottis shuffler right?

879
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: No, what happened?

880
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 9: Well, he like, I guess people found this venom and

881
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 9: was like requesting money from him, like after he won,

882
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 9: like they're requesting money from him.

883
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Look, you can, you can request money from me all

884
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: day long. I ain't gonna give it to you. Like

885
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: there there's like I don't care who.

886
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: Me putting my venmo out there in the world is

887
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 5: going to get me a bunch of requests.

888
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 9: Oh, actually, was sorry, Marion told me after they like

889
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 9: after I guess they lost the bets over him.

890
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 7: I guess he lost them some bets apparently, and they

891
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 7: were money from that's.

892
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: That is that is. I don't think that's the piece

893
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: of life advice there and it's all the places to Yeah,

894
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: you know what, there's it's just one of the tricks

895
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: to this job. I don't I think I think I

896
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: want to move past it, but I also just want

897
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to give it one.

898
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: I want to sink into that so bad that I

899
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: don't want to do that.

900
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, here we are. You know, he's Buck Rising,

901
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitts, and this this is, this is it.

902
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you listen to it, I made his first

903
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: you know, twenty minutes of the show.

904
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: To figure it out.

905
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 5: Wait, it would have been funnier said it. No, it's.

906
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think so. I'm not sure

907
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: Buck and I are allowed to react if you say

908
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: it like, I don't know how that works. I don't know.

909
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the process. That doesn't.

910
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 5: That be the one given out of venmo oh.

911
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: Test it out. Let's see what happens. This is, this

912
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: is this has gone spot like, we've gone out of

913
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: control a lot of summer. This is, this is this

914
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: is maybe some of our finest work. Look. I understand

915
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys are relevant. I understand the brand, I

916
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: understand the fans, I understand all of these things. I

917
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: just think we waste our time with things that don't

918
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: matter and inevitabilities, and I just I'm not wired to

919
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: do that. It's why I tell people all the time,

920
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: like I don't care if we didn't land on the moon.

921
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: Conspiracy theories, I don't give a damn about. It doesn't

922
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: change my Saturday. Like, what I have to accomplish the

923
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: rest of the day isn't going to be any different,

924
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: no matter what your conspiracy theory is or what you

925
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: think the government is hiding from us. So like I'm

926
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: a very you know, Okay, what's in front of me?

927
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: What do I have to do? I guess my thing

928
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: is buck like we and you and I have talked

929
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: about the fact that I think we talk too much

930
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys, and I think that they're just a

931
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: mediocre franchise that's sort of a mid thing that's turned

932
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: into its massive brand. But it's amid everything else. And

933
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: so you know, why are we surprised? My thing is,

934
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: it's fine, It's just why are we acting surprise? So

935
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: for me, Michaeh. Parsons demanding a trade only means he's

936
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: gonna get a big fat check and Dallas he's gonna

937
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: pay him anyway. And at the end of the year,

938
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna be bitching about the fact that the Cowboys

939
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: didn't win a Super Bowl and having Micah or didn't

940
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: have not having Micah, not having a contract, overpaying. None

941
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: of these things really matter because at the end of

942
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: the day, the team's not good enough to win a Super.

943
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 5: Bowl, but the team is good enough to win a

944
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: Super Bowl.

945
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: Fits do you think that you think this version of

946
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is on par with this version of the Eagles.

947
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: No, but I don't.

948
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: Well, actually, this version of the Eagles, this version of

949
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 6: the Eagles. The thing that Howie Roseman does so well,

950
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: and it's why Philadelphia is a perpetual contender this way

951
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 6: is they know when to lay up essentially, all right.

952
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 6: They let a bunch of their key contributors in Philadelphia

953
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 6: walk in free agency this year, whether it's Milton Williams

954
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 6: or who is a Josh Sweat I think was the

955
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 6: pass rusher that ended up going to Arizona after being

956
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 6: in Philadelphia. Part time players for them that are taking

957
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 6: on more full time roles for lesser organizations, and they're

958
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: gonna regenerate organically, and they're gonna let the young guys,

959
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, get some reps and then in a couple

960
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 6: of years they'll be ready to cycle up. So this

961
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 6: version of the Eagles, the twenty twenty five version of

962
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 6: the Eagles. They still have more to give. They still

963
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: have Saquan aj Brown. They still the.

964
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: Best offensive line and one of the best defensive lines

965
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: in football.

966
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: Even with that, like they all, that defensive line is

967
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 6: going to be interesting because that defensive line did in

968
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 6: huge part win them the Super Bowl, and I think

969
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 6: it's gonna have a little less juice. But I think

970
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 6: in Dallas they have comparable parts. Like their top end

971
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 6: pieces are as good as the top end pieces in Philadelphia,

972
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 6: and I would include the quarterback. I know people are

973
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 6: in and out on DAK but like Jalen Hurts, who

974
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 6: is a Super Bowl champion and an MVP, and he'll

975
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 6: have that and a winner at every level that he's

976
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 6: ever been at. I'm not taking anything away from Jalen Hurts,

977
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 6: but there are smarter football than you and I, a

978
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 6: smarter football people than you and I who will tell

979
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: you where is limitation are and how the Eagles excellent

980
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: roster helps circumvent some of those limitations. I think the

981
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 6: top end pieces in Dallas are just as good as Philadelphia's.

982
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: I think the top end pieces in Dallas are very good.

983
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: I am concerned about Dallas's offensive line. I'm concerned. Frankly,

984
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: when you look back at history for Schttenheimer, he loves

985
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I don't know how they're going

986
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I still don't think that they

987
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: have a solution at the running back position that I

988
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: feel really confident in. I think that the best way,

989
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, their wide receiver. When you add Pickens

990
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: to Dak who I stand on the Dak platform all

991
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: the time. I think Dak is good enough to win

992
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I just don't know about the rest

993
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: of that lot. That offensive line makes me nervous. And

994
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Dak's also got to

995
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: stay healthy, which has been its own issue. So you

996
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: combine all of that with the fact that you know

997
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: they're in this situation in the same conference as Philadelphia.

998
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: It's just man Washington. I think Washington's going to take

999
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a little step back this year. The analytics show that

1000
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: they were uncarre realistically lucky last year and that that'll

1001
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: sort of bring itself back. But they still feel like

1002
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: a ten win football team to me, Like I don't

1003
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys. Last year. I went in heavy on

1004
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, thinking, hey, all they ever do is win

1005
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: twelve games. And last year that was that's what.

1006
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 5: This was about.

1007
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 6: That we found the root cause you said yours too

1008
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: high and when they because you inter be got hurt.

1009
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 5: You're taking it down on the Cowboys.

1010
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: No, you and I one area where you and I

1011
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: are squarely different. I'm glad to come in and be like,

1012
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: you know what I was wrong about? That's a no,

1013
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I'll walk into. Yeah, you know what I should rethink

1014
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: that I I looked at last year. The argument on

1015
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys was that they were two one dimensional offensively,

1016
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: to which I said, Okay, they've been one dimensional for

1017
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: years and all they ever do is win twelve games,

1018
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: So what the hell are we talking about? Last year

1019
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: was the first time that they genuinely looked too one dimensional.

1020
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: And I am at this point over obsessed with the

1021
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: big boys in front, Like I just I don't if

1022
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I can't trust the entirety of your offensive line, then

1023
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I get nervous, buddy. So like, that's part of what

1024
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: makes me nervous about the Cowboys. I also think, like

1025
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I said, because the metrics showed me that Schottenheimer is

1026
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: going to try and run the ball a lot, and

1027
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be able to do that.

1028
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to put themselves in bad

1029
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: down and distant situations a lot, and that's just not

1030
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: a favorable way to play football that leads to turnovers. So, like,

1031
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: I think Dallas is probably kind of a fringe playoff team,

1032
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't look at them and say wow.

1033
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: And I also like, I don't say that with some

1034
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: level of I'm not Steven a out here, just like

1035
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: trying to hate on the Cowboys, I'm also not a

1036
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. I just look at it and say, a

1037
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: pretty mediocre team is going to be pretty mediocre.

1038
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 6: That's okay, No, But so I guess that gets into

1039
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 6: a different level of the conversation because like, I've had

1040
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: this thing with the Pittsburgh Steelers for a while where

1041
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: they haven't had one. They haven't won a playoff game,

1042
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 6: and I think it's something like eight seasons or something outrageous.

1043
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 6: It's it's a way, way way too long for an

1044
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 6: organization that does win enough but doesn't actually win enough

1045
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 6: for the standards that that fan base has. The Steelers,

1046
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 6: though they make the playoffs, but how often would you

1047
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 6: consider the last couple of dealers teams to make the

1048
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 6: postseason actual super Bowl contenders. So if the Cowboys get

1049
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 6: in as a wild card or something like that, and

1050
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 6: there's reason to believe that they could, Washington is going

1051
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 6: to be a bigger hurdle for them to overcome than

1052
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 6: they ever have been in years past.

1053
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: But I think Dallas can give them a run for

1054
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: their money.

1055
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 6: And there's reason to believe that Washington may have a

1056
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 6: harder time this year than they did last year, where

1057
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 6: their injury luck was excellent and Jaydean Daniels hit the

1058
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 6: league or took the league by storm. There will be

1059
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 6: some defensive adjustments that negate a little bit.

1060
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Of that highest fourth quarter conversion rate in NFL history

1061
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: over the course of the season. That's the one that really,

1062
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, for Washington take some like when you convert

1063
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: at that historic level on fourth down, I don't know that.

1064
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: I just don't know how you. I don't know how

1065
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: you turn that around. So you know, that's the reason

1066
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: I think they take him any steps.

1067
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 6: My point is, if Dallas gets in as a wild card,

1068
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 6: but you know you have the thoughts about them that

1069
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: you do, do you consider them to be a contender

1070
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 6: because if I if you get into the playoffs, and

1071
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 6: maybe my bar is solo because the Titans have been

1072
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 6: so god forsaken for the last couple of years, which

1073
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 6: is the organization that I cover on a day by

1074
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 6: day basis, I think that if you get into the postseason,

1075
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 6: you should be considered a Super Bowl contender, even if

1076
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 6: there are flaws with your roster, because the results are

1077
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 6: still pretty unpredictable in the sport.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe in the same segment we've gone from

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00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: the wild uh comments, we went from early to this

1080
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: deep think piece. You have created a really interesting conversation.

1081
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Who if you are a playoff team, are you actually

1082
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender? I'll answer that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with

1084
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: you on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: Radio Boogie and Elite. It's what Cowboys fans would like

1086
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 5: to think that they are in the modern age.

1087
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Speaker 1: It's not for all of us.

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 6: It's Fox Sports Saturday. He's Jason Fitz, I'm Buck Rising.

1089
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 6: We're hanging out here with you for just about forty

1090
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 6: more minutes. And the question that we've been discussing, or

1091
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 6: that we've just recently stumbled upon, as is usually the

1092
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 6: case for this show, is if you make the postseason,

1093
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 6: do you automatically get to be considered a contender. The

1094
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 6: Cowboys are obviously in the news, The Lakers are making

1095
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 6: headlines with the Luka Doncic extension as well. I'm sure

1096
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 6: we'll swing back around to that at some point in time.

1097
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 6: But FITZI, I've had this argument on my local show

1098
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 6: here in Nashville for a couple of years, and it's

1099
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 6: been specific to the Pittsburgh Steelers because there's been a

1100
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 6: lot of Steelers teams to make the playoffs here in

1101
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 6: the last couple of years, but they don't win playoff

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00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 6: games anymore, which is one of the reasons why Mike

1103
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 6: Tomlin's tenure there may be coming to an end, whether

1104
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 6: it's by their choice or by his. But they do

1105
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, and if you are one of the

1106
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: last teams remaining in the postseason picture, or when the

1107
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: postseason picture is put together, I do think that still

1108
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: makes you a contender because you are by definition contending

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00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 6: for a Super Bowl.

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00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: You would disagree.

1111
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean, our mutual friend Harry Douglas always says, if

1112
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: you get in the dance, you got a chance, getting

1113
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: the chance, get in the dance. You got a chance.

1114
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Always talk about all you got to do is get

1115
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then everybody has a chance. I

1116
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: will be wildly jaded by my own personal experience a

1117
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when the Raiders shocks of the

1118
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: world and won ten games and went to Cincinnati for

1119
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: the first round playoff game that they lost. They were

1120
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: closed in that game. That's the same Cincinnati Bengals team

1121
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: that then took on the Titans. Did any of us

1122
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: really believe that the Raiders were a Super Bowl contender? No,

1123
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: they were a team that stumbled and tripped and felled

1124
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: their way into the playoffs. You're like, oh, that's pretty cool.

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00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Few years before that was the year that they made

1126
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs where Derek Carr was like an MVP candidate

1127
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: according to everybody, and he got injured the last week

1128
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: the season they went to the playoffs or the backup

1129
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: quarterback certainly never had a chance. That felt wildly different

1130
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: to me than the Rich Cannon era Raiders, where every

1131
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: year they were in the playoffs. You're like, now, this

1132
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: team is genuine this is a super Bowl caliber football team.

1133
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: I do believe that you can be super Bowl caliber

1134
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: and not win. It takes too many things breaking your

1135
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: way over the course of a game, over the course

1136
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: of several weeks to win a super Bowl. There's a

1137
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: lot of luck involved. I don't know though, at my core,

1138
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: if I truly believe every playoff team is actually a

1139
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender by definition the way, if we're being

1140
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: very literal, then yeah, of course you're one of the

1141
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: final remaining You're in the one single elimination playoff process.

1142
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Of course. Well, I mean, by that same argument, a

1143
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: sixteen seed is actually a NCAA tournament contender. No, they're not.

1144
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: They're just they're in the tournament and it'll be a

1145
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: cute little run, but they'll ever win.

1146
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and I guess it's more.

1147
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 6: You could have a more nuanced discussion depending on which

1148
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 6: sport you wanted to focus in on, right, Like the

1149
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament. God help us if the NCAA actually gets

1150
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 6: their way and expands this thing, which would make me

1151
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 6: furious because sixty eight teams isn't enough. But again, it's

1152
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: a sixty eight team field in the NCAA versus what

1153
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 6: you have in the NFL postseason picture. And I do

1154
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 6: think that while the NFL, the NFL doesn't feel predictable

1155
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 6: by nature, but their postseason tends to be right. Like

1156
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 6: the regular season, you've got parody all over the place,

1157
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: You've got one score games all over the place, and

1158
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 6: a team like the Chiefs.

1159
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 5: Is a very adept or at least has been very

1160
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 5: adept at.

1161
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 6: Surviving those one score games and route to holding serve

1162
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 6: and putting together a fifteen win season and appearing in

1163
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 6: the super Bowl. And then when they get to the

1164
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 6: super Bowl, we just assume that they're gonna win it,

1165
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 6: because why wouldn't. They've got the best quarterback in the sport.

1166
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 6: And then the Eagles turn the thing on its head

1167
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 6: and we start to question what we may or may

1168
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: not know about one of the teams that we think

1169
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 6: is a super Bowl contender when Kansas City Chiefs in

1170
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 6: that game did not look like a Super Bowl contender.

1171
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Parody in the NFL is the biggest lie that we've

1172
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: all decided is truth in modern sports like so parody

1173
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: in the sense of I can go for my suck

1174
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: to I make the playoffs, fine, But if you look

1175
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: at championships and like it feels like in every other sport,

1176
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, it's championship or bust. If you look

1177
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: at championships, I mean, my god. The seventies were dominated

1178
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys and the Raiders. The eighties were dominated

1179
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: by the forty nine Ers and the Cowboys. The nineties

1180
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: were dominated by the Cowboys and the forty nine Ers.

1181
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: Like I forgot the Steelers in the seventies. Sorry, And

1182
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: then you have the entire run of the New England

1183
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Patriots followed by what is now a dynastic run by

1184
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Like, parody towards championships actually doesn't

1185
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: exist in the NFL. If you want parody towards championship,

1186
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: like championship parody, the NBA does that far better. They

1187
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: have a different champion every damn year, but we don't

1188
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: give them any credits. So I think it's funny when

1189
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: you say that, because I do believe parody exists in

1190
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: the sense that the NFL has made with the concept

1191
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: that teams will not be in the basement forever, but

1192
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: actual championship level play. Man. That's like it's always in

1193
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: dynastic runs. That's the NFL does dynastic runs.

1194
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: I mean, nobody knows that better than the AFC. God knows.

1195
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 6: You feel like you're coming up for air a little

1196
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 6: bit after the Tom Brady Patriots, and then Patrick Mahomes

1197
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 6: comes along after Brady goes to the NFC, and you're

1198
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 6: looking around, like, what the bleep?

1199
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 5: What are these other teams supposed to do there?

1200
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 6: Other than pray and wishould hope for the odd Joe

1201
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 6: Flacco Ravens year to break through and break up the

1202
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 6: monotony or or something like that. That is that the

1203
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: greatest lie that we tell ourselves about the NFL, that

1204
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 6: parody is still that much of a thing to where

1205
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 6: we just default. It may be, it may be the

1206
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: top of the list fits.

1207
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, at some level. If parody were real in

1208
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, then the breaks would eventually lead to the

1209
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Bills getting a championship. The breaks would eventually lead to

1210
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens getting a championship. All of these teams that

1211
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: we're looking at right now that we're saying, God, they're

1212
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: very good. Like Joe Burrow last I was really reminded

1213
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: when I watched Quarterback at how how stinking special Joe

1214
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Burrow was last year. Right, there's a very real chance

1215
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: that we end up in the next over the course

1216
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: of the next decade with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow,

1217
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: none of them getting a championship, none of them like

1218
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: that that's real. And then we're gonna have to sit

1219
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: back and be like, oh, okay, well, how do we

1220
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: process that, you know, in a in a parody conversation?

1221
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I when you talk about the things that

1222
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: don't exist that we think exists in sports parody in

1223
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I guess it's how we define it though,

1224
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: because again you mentioned smartly that the Steelers fan base

1225
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: is frustrated. Why because all they have is parody. Cowboys

1226
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: fans are frustrated because all they have is parody, Like Jags, Raiders, Browns,

1227
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Bears fans are frustrated because they can't even get into

1228
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: that level of parody, right Like Titans fans are frustrated.

1229
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: They can't even just get to mediocre mediocrity. Everybody's everybody's

1230
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: their own quarterbacks calling a mid Did you were you

1231
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: surprised by that? Like quarterback for three seconds is coming

1232
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: out me? I mean, I mean quarterback for three seconds.

1233
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: It's straight out of college that played at Miami, Like

1234
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: we're not talking about he came out of Nick Saban's

1235
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: sort of process or any like. He came out of Miami.

1236
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: And he's basically saying, I don't know. It just feels

1237
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: like there isn't some commitment to greatness here. We're pretty mediocre.

1238
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was stunning.

1239
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, he's right.

1240
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I've got culture.

1241
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 5: Well, I've covered this organization for nine years. They used

1242
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 5: to have that.

1243
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 6: It left with Mike Vrabel, Derrick Henry AJ Brown when

1244
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 6: they traded him away, and everything else it's been in tatters.

1245
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 6: This twenty two year old shows up. He actually has

1246
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 6: standards for himself and the people around him, which is

1247
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 6: not something this organization has had in any way, shape

1248
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 6: or for him.

1249
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 5: And they've got I wouldn't.

1250
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 6: Every fan base has dumb people in it, all right,

1251
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 6: but this, Yeah, there is a particular level of ridiculous

1252
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 6: entitlement from an organization, from a fan base, a percentage

1253
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 6: of a fan base for an organization that has done

1254
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 6: absolutely no winning, and in fact it works against that

1255
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 6: fact to their own detriment, that will simp for them

1256
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 6: at every turn.

1257
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 5: That makes me insane.

1258
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 6: So the fact that cam Word came in here looked

1259
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: around said, yeah, we're very mid right now. And he's

1260
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 6: had his own struggles as the number one overall pick

1261
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 6: as any rookie was. But thank god, somebody around here

1262
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: is willing to say what they are and to try

1263
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 6: and raise the standards and make everybody better and talk

1264
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 6: about what was the line at the press conference, good

1265
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 6: thing come to those who work whi'chs just fired me

1266
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 6: the bleep of fits because they don't have anybody like that.

1267
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 5: That dude.

1268
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 6: People are going to fight for that dude. People are

1269
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 6: going to play for that dude. And that is something

1270
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 6: that this organization lacks. It's a bunch of losers around here.

1271
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: Now the next head coach is really going to enjoy.

1272
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: Wait to get out of it. I mean, look, sorry, Brian,

1273
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: I am again this is that realist portion of me.

1274
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, as you look at it,

1275
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: we always saw the Titans in the playoffs a couple

1276
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: of years ago. Did you really believe that that Titans team?

1277
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Did you, in your heart of hearts, did you believe

1278
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: that Ryan Tannehill was going to take the Tennessee Titans

1279
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl a couple of years ago?

1280
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: You're talking about nineteen when they went to the AFC

1281
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 5: Championship game.

1282
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Was that, No, the year was that the year they

1283
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: lost to Cincinnati.

1284
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: That was twenty one. They were the number one overall seed.

1285
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the number one overall seed.

1286
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: My god, I forget that.

1287
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I forget that. They were the number one overall seed.

1288
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: And Ryan Daniell imploded just through interception after interception after

1289
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: interception in that game.

1290
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 6: Well it was three interceptions and it was the first

1291
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 6: player of the game, is the last player of the game,

1292
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 6: and a goal line pick to toss in the middle

1293
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 6: of their too, Fitzy, I'll tell you that, Like that's

1294
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 6: that Bengals game is as much as I've believed in

1295
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 6: them at any given point, because if you'll remember, Derek

1296
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 6: Henry missed half that season and they still won twelve games.

1297
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 6: They dressed more players than any team in NFL history.

1298
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 6: They broke the injury record from I think the Niners

1299
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 6: and the Dolphins back in the early two thousands. And

1300
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 6: that was the year that Mike Vrabel won Coach of

1301
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 6: the Year and they were doing all kinds of things

1302
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 6: that they had no business doing. Julio Jones was on

1303
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: that team. AJ Brown was on that team. They missed

1304
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 6: a bunch of time that season due to health, and

1305
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 6: all three of those players, Derrek Henry, Julio Jones, and

1306
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 6: aj Brown, they were as healthy going into that playoff

1307
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 6: game with a weak arrest as the number one overall

1308
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 6: seed home field advantage as they had been. So I

1309
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: did look around at me like, all right, they might

1310
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 6: have something here, and then they It looked like a

1311
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 6: bomb it hit that stadium. For as shell shocked as

1312
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 6: that fan base was, it's as traumatizing moment. I think

1313
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 6: that's one of the key moments in the breaking of

1314
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 6: this franchise to send it spiraling into mediocrity less than

1315
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 6: mediocrity as the worst team in football last year. Yeah,

1316
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: I really did think that they had something and they

1317
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 6: very very much didn't, even though they sacked Joe Burrow.

1318
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 5: Nine times in that game. Nine times fits.

1319
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a week after the Raiders got after

1320
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow too.

1321
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 5: Like again, the bank, that ridiculous officiating in the end zone.

1322
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 5: I forgot about all that.

1323
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is the maddening part of it,

1324
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: because when you had built a league that commences everybody

1325
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: parody exists, everybody remembers one or two little moments from

1326
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: the course of the season as the finding reason they

1327
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: don't have a championship, and I just I don't know

1328
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: at my core if I really believe parody exists. To

1329
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: answer your question from earlier, I don't think making the

1330
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: playoffs makes you a Super Bowl contender. I think that

1331
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: we have to trust sometimes our eyes. And like as

1332
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: much as college football has become this sort of polarizing

1333
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: conversation about the eye test, I think there's a reason

1334
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: the eye test has to exist. You gotta watch games

1335
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: and you got to look at it, and you can

1336
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: see sometimes when a team feels hot, when a team

1337
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: doesn't feel hot. You can see when a team feels special.

1338
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: And I think even though the Cowboys will make the playoffs,

1339
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the eye test will tell us that

1340
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: they belong in the same category as a Super Bowl contender.

1341
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Martin Wise, get it caught up on what's going on

1342
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: in the world of sports, because I think there's a

1343
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: contract for somebody in LA. We got to talk about it.

1344
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1345
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, there is Luka Doncinz signing the contract. He's agreed

1346
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 10: to a three year, one hundred and sixty five million

1347
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 10: dollar maximum contract extension with a player option in twenty

1348
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 10: twenty eight, that had a big press conference they celebrating

1349
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 10: the fact that Luca would be here six months to

1350
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 10: the day that Luca got traded.

1351
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 5: To Los Angeles. So a little uh, little uh.

1352
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: What is that?

1353
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 10: Something cool there? Broncos defensive lineman Zach Allen agrees to it.

1354
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 10: I've tried to think what is it. I can't think

1355
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 10: of the literary term. It's poetic justice that we're just

1356
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 10: sat there and stared at each other. Yeah, there's a

1357
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 10: word there.

1358
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, something out there. Thanks for the life jacket, guys,

1359
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 5: you know, appreciate the rope, you know, thanks a lot.

1360
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 10: Bronco with defensive lineman Zach Allen, agrees to a four year,

1361
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 10: one hundred and two million dollar deal. The Links beat

1362
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 10: the Aces one eleven of fifty eight. That's the largest

1363
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 10: road margins of victory in WNBA history. The feast of

1364
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 10: Collier didn't leave the game due to injury, though still

1365
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 10: waiting to hear worried about what that injury is.

1366
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 5: The Pro Football Hall.

1367
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Of Fame class of twenty twenty five has been announced.

1368
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 10: Defensive end Jared Allen, defensive back Eric Allen, wide receiver,

1369
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 10: sterling sharp and tight end Antonio Gates becoming the new

1370
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 10: Forest members to be enshrined in camp. The Rangers just

1371
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 10: took care of just took care of the Mariners and

1372
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 10: extra innings and the eleventh inning, they're six to four.

1373
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 5: The Mets beat the Giants twelve to six.

1374
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 10: Elsewhere in earlier Major League Baseball in the day, the

1375
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 10: Mets beat the Giants twelfth.

1376
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: I just said that.

1377
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 10: The Marlins beat the Yankees two to nothing, Guardians five

1378
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 10: to four over the Twins, Red Sox seventy three over

1379
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 10: the Astros, Brewers eight to two over the Nationals. The

1380
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 10: Tigers were able to hold on with their new closer,

1381
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 10: Kyle Finnega, getting his first save against the Phillies seven

1382
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 10: to five. Rockies beat the Pirates eight to five. Rockies

1383
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 10: has been kind of hot in their last few games.

1384
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 10: Still thirty and eighty though, so there's got a lot

1385
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 10: of ground to make up. Blue Jays is with they

1386
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 10: two to four win over the Royals, and the Orioles

1387
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 10: came from behind beat the Cubs four to three.

1388
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: Rays blanked the Dodgers for nothing.

1389
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, he's buck rising. I'm Jason fitz

1390
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Bucket Fitz taking over Fox Sports Saturday for the best

1391
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: pregame show every weekend. Be sure to tune into Fox

1392
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: Sports Radios Countdown present i bet MGM every Saturday and

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: Sunday morning from nine am to noon Eastern not six

1394
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: to nine am Pacific. For all you guys who don't

1395
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: like to do math, we count you down to all

1396
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,760
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1397
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports

1398
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: Radio and in the iHeartRadio app. I think we just

1399
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: learned something about the show. We learned that we are

1400
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: a We're let's just think a little bit like we

1401
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: just learned that if we're all out on a yacht

1402
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: together and some one of our teammates is thinking, Buck

1403
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: and I are going to look at each other and

1404
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna say, oh, Martin's sinking right now, neither of

1405
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: us is gonna move. We're probably the way I envision it.

1406
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: We're on below decks, we're on a super yacht. We

1407
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: both see that Martins falling off board, we both see

1408
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: that he is struggling in the water, and Buck and

1409
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: I look at each other and say, hey, Martin's sinking

1410
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: right now, and then we're like yeah, and then you

1411
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: take a little sip of your drink and you just

1412
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: stand there and you're like, we should get somebody. That's

1413
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: what I learned about us, Buck. We're not great teammates for.

1414
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 5: No, but I've never been a good teammate for anybody.

1415
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 5: It's very I mean lesson.

1416
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: It was just allowed, like if you're just if you

1417
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: just come out and you're like yeah, no, no, no, no,

1418
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: I get this, like I'm just not a good teammate.

1419
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: Like do we then all accept it? Can? Is that

1420
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: the way this works? Even? Like do we just accept someone? I?

1421
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah we do? We do we accept it?

1422
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Well? Should ask Mary? That's what I just learned. Luca.

1423
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 6: On my side, every time I call for a fine,

1424
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: I feel like I feel like I've got a pretty

1425
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 6: good for somebody who's not a bad or not a

1426
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 6: good teammate.

1427
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 5: I seem to have a lot of support around this

1428
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 5: situation spoken.

1429
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 8: I mean, it's like it's about you know, I'm not

1430
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 8: going Now that you vocalized it, I feel like that's

1431
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 8: gonna be the turning point.

1432
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, honestly, you can a fine for that.

1433
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 5: You're to lose it all.

1434
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: No, No, he's he's the bad boy in this boy man,

1435
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Like he's bad.

1436
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: I'm the most self aware one add any of us.

1437
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: That is.

1438
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: See, this is the thing that people like to do

1439
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: when they like I have a buddy that I will

1440
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: say this closely so that I don't get fined. He

1441
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: was an unintentional a hole. That's the best way I

1442
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: can say that, right, Like, just unintentionally, and he was

1443
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: just like, Oh, that's just who I am. I've decided

1444
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: that Buck has decided that by saying that he's self aware,

1445
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: he thinks that means he can say or do whatever

1446
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: he wants because that's part of him being self aware.

1447
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: That still kind of makes you the jerk in the

1448
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: like in the in the in the stack. You're you're

1449
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: still kind of the jerk in the in the stack there, buddy.

1450
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: That's right.

1451
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 6: But I've told everybody, told everybody, as long as I'm

1452
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 6: telling you on the front end that I'm going to

1453
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 6: behave like a jerk. You choose whether you can accept

1454
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: that behavior or not.

1455
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: And most people I love this Luca can behave however

1456
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: he wants because he's a very rich Man today he

1457
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: gets the deal. I think the most interesting part of

1458
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: this to me, and we talked a little early about

1459
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: what's it means for Lebron in the future. I don't

1460
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: think it means anything for Lebron because I think the

1461
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 1: Lakers are moving forward, so they're going to have another

1462
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: year with Lebron, then they're going to figure it out.

1463
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: Where this arts to get interesting is how do you

1464
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: build around Luca and what's the path for the Lakers?

1465
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Because I'll ask the same question about Luca that I

1466
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: asked when the Lakers acquired Lebron, and my question at

1467
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: the time was what would Lebron have to accomplish as

1468
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: a Laker to be an all time great Laker? Not

1469
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: an all time great player, but an all time great Laker.

1470
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: When you think of the bar of super stardom for

1471
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers, it is so wildly high. Luca just got

1472
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: that money, he's got that the body. He looks like

1473
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: he's taking care of himself. But I think Buck we

1474
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 1: have to understand that now there's just a much different

1475
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: standard to the way everything he will do moving forward

1476
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: will be judged. Because the Lakers have had the level

1477
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: of superstar, the level of franchise holder, the level of

1478
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: like at List, they can hold the world up on

1479
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: their shoulders. That's how they've built greatness for this team

1480
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And it will be

1481
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: expected that Luca can do that.

1482
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 5: And I think he can, right.

1483
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, they went to the finals and they

1484
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 6: came up short in Dallas with him as the primary

1485
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 6: piece of that team, but he gave them an opportunity

1486
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 6: to compete in the finals. There's not a lot of

1487
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 6: other things. I mean, there's not a lot of other

1488
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 6: things about that Mavericks team that made it that you

1489
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 6: would point to and say, no, that definitively.

1490
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 5: Obviously, it's a team effort, it's a team game.

1491
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 6: But basketball, an individual can will you to a win

1492
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 6: in that sport more than any other team sport. And

1493
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 6: I think Luca and the MAVs when they did make

1494
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 6: their finals appearance a couple of years ago, were a

1495
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 6: good case in point in that I do think that

1496
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 6: they have more pieces around him in Los Angeles than

1497
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: they did in Dallas at the time. You've got DeAndre

1498
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 6: Ayt and you've got market. I mean, Marcus Smart is

1499
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 6: not who I would necessarily cite, but Marcus smart is there,

1500
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,520
Speaker 6: Ruy Hachimura, Maxi Kleeber all people who were in attendance

1501
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 6: at his press conference to announce the extension, and then

1502
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 6: of course Lebron at an advanced stage, is still a

1503
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 6: high level basketball player. Like I do think that they

1504
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 6: are capable of Luca being the one who they lean

1505
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 6: on the most, because that roster doesn't necessarily indicate to

1506
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 6: me that they're going to have to lean on him

1507
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 6: so heavily as he was in Dallas. The expectation for

1508
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 6: him in Dallas, I think was higher because he's the guy,

1509
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: and so they want him to be even more of

1510
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 6: a guy than he actually is. When he's the most

1511
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 6: efficient offensive player, maybe not the most efficient offensive player

1512
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 6: but one of the most gifted offensive players going in

1513
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 6: the modern NBA right now. So they're looking around and

1514
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 6: being like, no, we need more out of you. You

1515
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 6: need to take better care of yourself, you need to

1516
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 6: do more. You need to be the truck to our trailer,

1517
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 6: because we're going to hitch a bunch of things to

1518
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 6: you and you're going to have to drag this thing along.

1519
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 6: And maybe that's still going to end up being the

1520
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 6: thought process in Los Angeles, but I just feel like

1521
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 6: his load is a little lighter in La despite the

1522
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 6: heightened expectations externally than they were in Dallas, when that

1523
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 6: organization is putting a hell of a lot more pressure

1524
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 6: on him to do the heavy lifting.

1525
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: There's a part of this where, to be honest, I

1526
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: don't even care if the Lakers are a championship caliber

1527
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: team this year. I care the most because the Lakers

1528
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: made this. This entire move was predicated on the thought

1529
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: process of we are going to build for the Lakers,

1530
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: for the next generation, for the next ten years, whatever

1531
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: that is. That's why you go out and you get

1532
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: Luca in this situation. So to me, it's no longer

1533
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: about a how do we maximize Like in the last

1534
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: several years, everything has been how do we get the

1535
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: most out of Lebron so we win a championship right now?

1536
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: Because you've understood where Lebron was in the journey of

1537
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: his career, I think what we have to understand at

1538
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: this point is that the Lakers are no longer playing

1539
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: a short term game. The Lakers are now playing a

1540
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: long term game. So to me, whatever they have to

1541
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: do to gut this year, get rid of this year,

1542
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: move through this year. I don't care about this year.

1543
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: I care about the flexibility they're going to be able

1544
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: to give themselves and how they continue to build around

1545
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: Luca so that for the next two, three, four, five,

1546
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: six years they are in a situation where they get

1547
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: the best out of that player. Because that's what He's

1548
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: not going to be judged by a championship this year.

1549
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: He's going to be judged by a championship every year

1550
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: for the next eight years.

1551
01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 5: I agree.

1552
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: Look at that we agreed on something. You know what

1553
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: else we can agree on. It's time for the single

1554
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 1: greatest game show in the history of all of sports

1555
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: stock radio. It's gonna go off the rails. Would you

1556
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: rather coming up next? East Buck Rising? I'm Jason Fitz.

1557
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: We're hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday

1558
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: on Fire and I can't promise anything. It's Bucking Fits

1559
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.

1560
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: If you missed any of today's show, you want to

1561
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Speaker 1: catch a podcast, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 1: just search five Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your pods.

1566
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: You'll find today's full show posted right after we get

1567
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: off the air. Now, if you are listening to us

1568
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: for the first time, you know that we liked this

1569
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: and every single show the same way. With the single

1570
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: greatest game show in the history of sports stalk radio,

1571
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: It's time for would you rather? Oh, I didn't let

1572
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: I didn't let let Buck yell. I didn't let Buck yell.

1573
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: What the hell? We'll give it another shop, We'll give

1574
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: you another shot. You're ready bout you?

1575
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 5: Okay, want your pity? Would you rather?

1576
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing?

1577
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 5: In on a fat a fat end of a baseball

1578
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 5: bat and spin fitsy.

1579
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. I'm just you know what, My

1580
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: mind's in a couple of different places, like I'm wondering

1581
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: right now, would you rather co host a radio show

1582
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: with Buck Rising on Fox Sports Radio or go play

1583
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: in front of thousands of people with a little big town.

1584
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, thousand six thousand. Don't

1585
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 5: get cute.

1586
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 7: You are bragging.

1587
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh it's not even not even a humble brag. It's

1588
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: just a straight brag. Crowd's gonna be yelling for me

1589
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: later or not for Buck? Go ahead, Ian's gonna give us,

1590
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: So would you rather question? We'll figure it out.

1591
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 5: I can't stand him, all right?

1592
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 8: And when when you guys build in for Cavino and Rich.

1593
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 8: We had to take a brief hiatus with the wheel,

1594
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 8: but the wheel is back, so we're now niting it

1595
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 8: again to pick our would you rather question? Yeah, let's

1596
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 8: go ahead and give it a spin for the first one.

1597
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 5: Wait, is there a wheelband on Covino and Rich? What happened?

1598
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't allow them on that show. No wheels, Yeah,

1599
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 7: no wheels all lot. It's actually really weird.

1600
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 5: But that's crazy. Yeah.

1601
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 8: So the first one here that it landed on is

1602
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 8: would you rather have socks that scream quietly when they

1603
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 8: get wet or a refrigerator that judges your food choices

1604
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 8: in your mother's voice?

1605
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,440
Speaker 5: Oh, the refrigerator.

1606
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 6: I would be in so much better shape if the

1607
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 6: refrigerator was judging me, especially. I mean, you know, I

1608
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 6: love my mother very much, but her name is Karen,

1609
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 6: and so a refrigerator with the voice of an actual

1610
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 6: Karen would diminishing me as I reached for that. You

1611
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 6: know that those leftover buffalo chicken nachos that I didn't

1612
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 6: even need to order the first time, Like that, that

1613
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 6: would keep me in check.

1614
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 5: I am pro that also screaming wet socks. Is there

1615
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: anything that sounds worse?

1616
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: No, I don't want screaming wet socks. But I can't

1617
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: tell you this, like I've no loss for my mother.

1618
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: I've never hidden that on radio. I've always been very

1619
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: open about the lack of relationship I have with my parents.

1620
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: But the one funny thing about my mom with this

1621
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: is that when my mom got mad at you, like

1622
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: to always, the first thing she goes to is the

1623
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: one line you'd know, say so if you know, like

1624
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: if you're a weight sensitive person, you're really sensitive about

1625
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: your weight. The first thing my mom would say if

1626
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: she gets mad is that, you know. She'd be like, hey,

1627
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: you fat f word, why didn't you go ahead and

1628
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: put the food down? And then she'd start yelling at you. So,

1629
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if I open up the fridge, it wouldn't

1630
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: just be like, hey, don't get that extra egg. It

1631
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: would be like you fat ass o b why you know? So? Look,

1632
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: you're right, man, I would have absolutely, oh.

1633
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, worse than the average fits. I feel like for

1634
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 7: your fridge would.

1635
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: Be Yeah, that would that that fridge would come with

1636
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: the level of just like rip your head out with it.

1637
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: But you know what, I would be in the best

1638
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: shape of my life, like there's no doubt about it.

1639
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 1: Like there's no doubt about it. So yeah, I take that.

1640
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: I take You know. The only way I want to

1641
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: hear from Pam is if it's from my refrigerator keeping

1642
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: me in shape. Go ahead, Pam and Karen good God, yeah, yeah,

1643
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: says so much.

1644
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 8: Well, the thing, if you're playing the odds, you don't

1645
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 8: have wet socks that frequently, so it's like every time

1646
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 8: you open the refrigerator there's this happening, or it's every

1647
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 8: time your socks get wet.

1648
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 5: They should Nobody sweat. Like when I go work out,

1649
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 5: I sweat so much that your socks get sweaty.

1650
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I buy this, the sweat wicking socks so

1651
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 6: that they're not so disgusting.

1652
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm six two two ten.

1653
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 5: I sweat. It's what it is.

1654
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think weight has to do with

1655
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: the fact that you sweat. Like I I go work

1656
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: I work hard at the gym, and when I take

1657
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: my my socks off their dry as a bone.

1658
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,919
Speaker 5: Like sweating is healthy. You're you will not tell me otherwise?

1659
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: Okay?

1660
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 5: Next?

1661
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: All right?

1662
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 7: Next spinning the wheel?

1663
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 5: Put the bagel down, you fat bleep.

1664
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 8: Would you rather be required to salute every squirrel you pass?

1665
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 8: Or have your footsteps make random cartoon sound effects when

1666
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 8: you walk?

1667
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 5: What is it with mean and feet? What do you rex?

1668
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 8: Ryan relaxed like it's actually want that GPT So I'm

1669
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 8: actually I was wondering that myself.

1670
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 7: Why is it so many feet?

1671
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I want, I want to salute squirrels all day,

1672
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: but like, like that just seems like saluting every random

1673
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: squirrel that comes by is a bit of a pain

1674
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: in the butt. But I can at least control, Like, hey,

1675
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: maybe I go inside and I don't have to deal

1676
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: with squirrels. If everywhere I ever walk, my shoes make

1677
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: those noises, I don't want that like that. You you

1678
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: got to walk everywhere that you go.

1679
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 6: There's nothing that would be more like that would make

1680
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 6: me more self conscious than my feet making noises that

1681
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 6: I couldn't control.

1682
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 5: I will salute the squirrel.

1683
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: Big ass sweaty feet making all.

1684
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 5: Those noises go twelve and a half baby.

1685
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh congratulations, all right, go ahead, and to save us

1686
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: Ian we're trying to get fired to to save us,

1687
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: all right, spinning the wheel, I can't help if you

1688
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: have small feet, sufficiently average feet sufficiently average.

1689
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great.

1690
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 8: Would you rather be followed by a slow moving swarm

1691
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 8: of harmless butterflies at all times? Or have one of

1692
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 8: your nostrils narrate your dreams every morning?

1693
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 7: Be kind of nice to like find out what you

1694
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 7: dreamed about.

1695
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 5: No, I don't.

1696
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 7: A lot of the time you don't remember, right, So

1697
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 7: I don't was telling you I had.

1698
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 5: A dream or like at least a dream that I

1699
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 5: remembered on what was that Wednesday or two night for

1700
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 5: the first time I think in fifteen years? Like that

1701
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 5: doesn't that so? Maybe? But like I don't know.

1702
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 6: I don't want to know what's going on in my

1703
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 6: head while I'm asleep. That's the only piece I get

1704
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 6: from what's going on in my head A given that

1705
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 6: any given moment that in therapy. So give me the

1706
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 6: butterflies that sound that sounds magical, also very much like

1707
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 6: the little piano riff that I like to follow me

1708
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 6: around that Mary has two I like.

1709
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: To think of things in the worst case scenario. So like,

1710
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: if perhaps I've taken a few too many edibles and

1711
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm walking and there's a swarm of butterfly behind me,

1712
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a beautiful thing. Like I'm walking down

1713
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: the street, seems seems beautiful. They can't attack you.

1714
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,839
Speaker 7: Try to horrifying, I know, if you've taken too many edibles.

1715
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: No, what's mortifying is the thought of my nostril trying

1716
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: to actually like tell me anything, like how does that work?

1717
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: Doesn't my nostril get a little mouth on it or

1718
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: does it just flop out in? And I don't know.

1719
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: Like that just feels like if I've also the worst

1720
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: one too many editors. Well, if I've had one too

1721
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: many edibles, that's gonna get really weird really quickly. So

1722
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: I'll take the butterflies.

1723
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 5: Beh me.

1724
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 7: All right, we got time for one more. Let's spin

1725
01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 7: the wheel here.

1726
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 8: Okay, would you rather have to name every object you

1727
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 8: touch out loud in a dramatic tone or speak only

1728
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 8: in pirate slang?

1729
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 11: Uh?

1730
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: Name every object I touch in dramatic tone?

1731
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 7: I just said for a radio host to be talking

1732
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 7: pirate slang?

1733
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't I can't r mate everything.

1734
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 5: I'll go full Steve the Pirate.

1735
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: Will you really would you wear like a little eye patch?

1736
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: Sure right, I won't do that in front of thousands

1737
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: of people, where I'll be uh. Stick to Fox Sports

1738
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: Radio all night. Thanks for hanging out with us.