1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up. Jaguars. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst and former Jaguar 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Shadick bring you the latest storm yours. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars Huddle Up starts right now. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Brooks, JP Shadwick, John Osher from the Miller Electric Center 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: at the Hondai Studios in Jacksonville, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles, California, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: and at long Last, guys, At long last, there is 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Jaguars news this week. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: It's been a long time coming, buck Well. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: Long time comings to offseason. I mean, this is what 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: we do. We're just kind of landing to cut Sat 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: out free agency. Mostly the drafts are still a month away. 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, there has been a lot to talk about. 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: It's been a great off season, a great off season, 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: and I want to say that because again I am 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: completely comfortable with not making splash moves and it's about time. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: It's about time the franchise got back to not I mean, 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: and I think it was it was Liam who said 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: somewhere that Shad had mentioned somewhere that if we could 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: keep the coaches out of the building during free agency. 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: We could save a lot of money in this league. 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: And there's some truth to that statement. Sure, there really 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: is some truth to that statement of just silly spending 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: this time here. But I digress. We're onto other things. 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: But yes, it's been a wonderful offseason. 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, we've got plenty to get to today. 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: The Jaguars will be playing in Orlando in twenty twenty seven. Officially, 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: we'll have a review of Wednesday's press conference coming up 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 3: from down in Orlando and we'll hear from JAG's owners 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: shod Con. But also this week NFL annual meeting at 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: the Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona, including the AFC Coach's Breakfast. 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: Earlier this week, Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, asked how 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: the Jaguars handle success going into year two. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 5: Something weird we need to be guarded against as a 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: staff and as an organization is you know, we have 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 5: a lot of room to improve. We will, we need 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: to get better and improve, and that may not be 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 5: thirteen wins, like don't I don't know. I can't say that. 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: I don't know what those results are, but I know 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: if we're chasing those results. We're not going to be 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 5: living in the moment. We're not going to get the 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: best version of ourselves every day. And so when we 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: get back to this with that less time as a 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 5: coaching staff, with less time with the players as not 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 5: a new coaching staff, we need to be as intentional 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: as ever with the way that we attack each day, 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: be as clear and concise with the players when they 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: come back in about what that looks like and how 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: it's going to get done. And we got no time 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 5: to waste. 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: That's Liam Cohen earlier this week. John Hey Becky. 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: I think it's an important point. Look, I kind of 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: believe and I've covered a couple of extended runs of 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: success the Jaguars in the nineties. I was with the 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: Colts when they won I think seven or eight, you know, 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: made the playoffs, seveenter eight years in a row and 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: won twelve a bunch of times. There's other franchises that 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: do this. Jagger's haven't done in a long time, but 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: I think this franchise is capable of it with Liam 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: and Trevor and a couple of the core pieces. And 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: I think it's an important point that Liam made that 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: we can talk about thirteen and four probably won't happen 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: every year, but if you're having a run of success 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: like that, you've got to have a couple of years 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: where you get through it. I don't know if they'll 68 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: win thirteen or fourteen. They may have a tough stretch 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: next to your injuries. But if you if you have 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: a run like that eleven and six, twelve and five 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: getting in and making a run, those shouldn't be considered unsuccessful. 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: If you get in, if you're eleven or up the 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: number within that, Yes, fifteen is better than eleven JP. 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that or not. Fifteen is 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: more than it depends on what you're counting, it's true. 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: But the point is the idea is to get in 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: every year. Thirteen may not happen every year, but eleven 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: and six, twelve and five, you know that's successful and 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: you have to pull those off to have a long run. 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. I really like this. I think it's a very 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: mature approach from Liam to throw out the record and 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 4: not really focus on the results and just talk about 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: like the process and kind of stick to what they've 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: been talking about the entire time. Because what happens is 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: everyone from the outside is going to want to talk 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: about the next step, and the next step is getting 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: to the championship game or the Super Bowl. And what 88 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: that does is that adds to the pressure on how 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: you perform. And I think if you just kind of 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: focus on, hey, let's just be, as he says, the 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: best version of ourselves. Let's focus on being the best 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: team that we can put out there and whatever the 93 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: record is, the record is. I think it allows the 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: players to play freely. It allows them to kind of 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 4: focus on kind of like the micro part of building 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: up the team as opposed to worrying so much about 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: what is it going to look like at the end 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: of the season. Let's just continue to stack days like 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 4: the players talk about all the time, and then if 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: we're good enough, will be exactly the team that we 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: want to be at the end. But it's no need 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: to kind of burden ourselves with the mental stress of 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: trying to be a super Bowl team or anything like that. 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: Let's just get better and focused on that part of it. 105 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you also do want to get into a point 106 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: of Okay, say they have a rough patch and they're 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: five and four, which doesn't put you out of anything 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: in this league. Well you don't want to have this 109 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: inside the team narrative. Well we can't. You know, we 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: can't get fourteen and three. So you know, you can't 111 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: be looking at the final record in September and worried 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: about that, because then your eyes way off the ball. 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: That's not what they did last year. That's not how 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: good teams do it. Good teams aren't sitting there thinking Okay, okay, 115 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: how can we get to fourteen and two? It's how 116 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: can we maximize the record? How can we get in 117 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: I think the quote I like best from the owners 118 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: meetings from Liam. He spoke to Ryan O'Halleran Bucky and 119 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: he said, you know, we don't want to let the 120 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: stink of success cover up what really stinks. And I'm 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: paraphrasing that, but he's talking about, let's not, you know, 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: get overwhelmed in the success and forget that we have 123 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: to run the ball better, forget that we need to 124 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: rush the pass or better. Don't let that stink of 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: success cover up what really does stink. 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: Yeah No, and I think that's really important. I think 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: they certainly accomplished a lot last year, but it wasn't perfect. 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: It wasn't ideal. And as they're comparing themselves to like 129 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: the ideal team they want to be. They want to 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: be able to run the football, they want to be 131 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: able to impost it will and there were too many 132 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 4: times last year where they couldn't get that done. So 133 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: to be that team that he envisions down the road, 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: you have to focus on that. And we know only 135 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: good things have when we're able to run the ball effectively. 136 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: It's going to lighten the load on Trevor Lawrence, is 137 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: going to create more big play opportunities in the passing game, 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: and ultimately that's going to make the Jacks a better team. 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: But it's focusing on the little things because how you 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: do the small thing, how you do all things. 141 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Bucky's right. I mean everybody don't know. But 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: he's doing the Fernando Mendoza. We're on audio, not videos, 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: so you can't see that. Bucky is dressed to the 144 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: not there is no pullover, sweatshirt, there's no involved today. 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: This is I mean in the closet, maybe a tie 146 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: off screen. He's going on. So Bucky's ready. I expect 147 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: much better. I expect that was a good line. I 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: expect you to improve the show. 149 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Goods great stuff. 150 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: Let's hear again from Jaguars head coach Willam Cohen. The Jaguars, 151 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: of course, lost a couple key starters in free agency, 152 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: including linebacker Devin Lloyd, so no backfill and free agency 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: so far. Could this be the opportunity that Vinrel Miller 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: is looking for? 155 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: Benchros has to play a lot of meaningful snaps last year. 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: I think you we saw some really good things and 157 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: then there's some things we can can see a coach 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: off of. And I think anytime you give a player 159 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: like confidence without telling anything, you know, like right now, 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: if you're him and we haven't signed anybody yet, like 161 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: you should say, well, at least they believe in me, 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: you know, at least they think I can do it. 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: And now it's signing him and and and us. 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: To go do it together. But also like, dude, now 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: it's time, Like now it's time to truly go take 166 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: it over. There's gonna be an opportunity there. And you know, 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: I think Benchall is made of the right stuff. I 168 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: think he cares enough about it from a week above 169 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 5: me standpoint that he's gonna put the time. 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: In to do it. 171 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 5: And then I'm excited about what that could look like. 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: That's William Cohen, of course, John this week and yeah, 173 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: we'll see. 174 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: If he says there's gonna be an opportunity, there's probably 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: gonna be one. 176 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I ideally they would have kept Devin 177 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: and Travis, right, everybody gets that, meaning Devin Lloyd and 178 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Travis etn a running back. But I don't think any 179 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: team necessarily even wants to go into seasons anymore with 180 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: every starter lined up. You want some competition, you have to. 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: You have to turn in the roster. In this day 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: and age, you can't. It's not the seventies where the 183 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: Steelers could roll out the same starting twenty two for 184 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: five years in a row. So it's a good situation 185 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: when you've got at outside linebacker, you have Ventro Miller, 186 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: who pushed Devin Lloyd to the point where he was 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: a co starter inning the season. At running back, you've 188 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: got Touton who had five touchdowns and who showed something. 189 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: They're in a good spot for the positions where they 190 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: do need to. I think they will draft outside linebacker. 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I think they'll draft somewhere running back. But you probably 192 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: couldn't be in better situation Bucky for that transition, because 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: you have to have transition in the NFL. So I 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: think they're set up well at those spots. 195 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they are set up well. And speaking 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 4: specifically d Venturo and Miller, this is a guy that 197 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: started games for the Jaguars. He was in a heated 198 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: and very intense battle with Devin Lloyd last year. People 199 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: forget because Devin Lloyd had such a great year, so 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: this is not a new spot for him. I am 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: sure they would draft somebody, They'll put some competition in 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: that spot. Ultimately, Ben Trel gets to control what he controls, 203 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: meaning if he plays well, it's gonna be hard to 204 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: remove him from the lineup. He just has to focus on, 205 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: as coach talked about, we over me, how can I 206 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: best help the team? What are the things that I 207 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: can do to make sure that his defense continues to 208 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: play at a high level. If he does those things, 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: he'll be a key contributor and maybe even a starter. 210 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: So he only he has to just focus on those 211 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: things and not worry about who's in, who's out, who's 212 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: coming in, who they draft when they draft them, all 213 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: those things, because ultimately it doesn't matter. He only controls 214 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: his part. 215 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: Of it, and Vin Treil really hasn't been I think 216 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: a lot of fans are familiar with him, but obviously 217 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: not as familiar as there are with Lloyd and some 218 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: of the guys who've started. Antonio Johnson, guy's been high profile. 219 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: You've been around him a little bit. 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: JP. 221 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about intangibly rich, you talk about 222 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: a guy who fits what this franchise is. 223 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: I don't you know. 224 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: He came in, he didn't play his first year. He 225 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: had a lot of injuries at Florida, but you know, 226 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: loves ball. I mean, that's one of the things this 227 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: franchise loved. This is a kid who wants it. He 228 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: was a co start at beginning of the last year, 229 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: but you know, he just about beat him out. I 230 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: mean it was not a co starter. Was like, well, 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: let's throw Ventrell a bone and just kind of have 232 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: him listed there. That was a tough call, and there 233 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: were ways that he outplayed Devon in the preseason. Devin 234 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: had the picks and Devon had the big plays, but 235 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: vent Trail was right there. So I don't know that 236 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: it's necessarily a drop off if you play Ventrell at 237 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: that spot and if he doesn't make it and doesn't start, 238 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: it won't be because he's not everything they want in 239 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: that spot. 240 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't underestimate his drive and his passion and what 241 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: he's had to overcome to even be on the field, 242 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: and then that shows in his everyday work. 243 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: I think, and Bucky, I think you've gotten to know 244 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: him a little bit. But good kid. 245 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 4: Look, he's a great kid, and he's super competitive and 246 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: being around, particularly in the locker room, right halftime in 247 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: post game. He's one of those guys. He's kind of 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: like the fire starter you looking for leadership and the 249 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: guys to talk and say things. He is always one 250 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: of the more vocal guys and when he's had a 251 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: chance to go in games, he's played pretty well. Now 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: it's about the consistency. Can he continued to stack solid 253 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: performances on top of solid performances because the guy that 254 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: he plays beside four year Lui kunt is as consistent 255 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: as they come. If he can match that level, then 256 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: his defense would be much better next season. 257 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: And one more note thanks to the audio by the 258 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: way from NFL Media from the NFL or the AFC 259 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: Coaches Breakfast this week, one of the audio we didn't 260 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: get was William Cohen talking about Travis Hunter. But John 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: you wrote about that on Jaguars dot Com. The rehab 262 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: is on schedule. At least they have an officially said 263 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: anything about his you know what they're going to do 264 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: with him on the field once he finally gets. 265 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: Back to Yeah, not a huge you know. I wrote 266 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: it for for Yesterday because whenever the wind blows, you 267 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: have to write about Travis Hunters. 268 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: People want to read about it. 269 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: So his rehab appears to be on track. I've heard 270 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: nothing from officially or inside the building to dispute that, 271 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: and I don't know what that's going to look like 272 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: during OTAs. My sense is he'll have a chance to 273 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: do a little bit of work, but that they will 274 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: be smart about it. But it's a huge story. I 275 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: haven't heard anything to make me think that he won't 276 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent going into the season. And the 277 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: dynamic that that brings. I think it's the ultimate wild 278 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: card for this team. They're already thirteen to four, they're 279 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: already pretty good. The offense got going, and I'm not 280 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: saying this is a knock on Travis at all, but 281 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: in the last eight or nine games, Bucky. I watching 282 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: this team, you didn't sit there and go, man, if 283 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: they only had Travis, which I think is a positive, 284 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: because I just wonder how much easier it will be. 285 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: This is the concept that I can't get my head around. 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: I always asked. I always ask the scout and the 287 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: GM for concepts I can't get my head around. I 288 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: just wonder if it'll be easier to find a role 289 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: for him and to define that role this year, because 290 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: everybody else around him is more defined. You know what 291 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: Parker is, you know what BTJ is. You can kind 292 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: of close your eyes and envision those roles, and I'm 293 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: curious to see how Liam's going to fit Travis into 294 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: that unfinished jigsaw. 295 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: Puzz. I think it's probably the role that might have 296 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: been best suited for Travis's skill coming in last year, 297 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: there was so much uncertainty. There was talking about him 298 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: being the number one receiver. Well, now the Pecan order 299 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: has kind of been established and he plays a role 300 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: where it's the wide receiver three or wide receiver four 301 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: on offense, but he is potentially the number one corner 302 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: on defense. To me, when you watched him play at Colorado, 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: that is what he did well, he's a seaball getball defender, 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: great instincts and awareness, so that allows him to kind 305 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: of put the bulk of his time on defense, and 306 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: then you have a small package of plays for him 307 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: because he is dynamic. I still remember the Monday Night 308 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: catch against Kansas City where comes and makes a tremendous 309 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: catch on the ball. So you want to take advantage 310 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: of those skills. But I think it's more easily defined, 311 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: not only for the rest of the team, but I 312 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: think it becomes easier for Liam as a play caller 313 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: now knowing that those guys are established as one, two, 314 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: and three, and Travis is kind of like your gadget 315 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: guy that you put in in certain situations to take 316 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: advantage of his skills. 317 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: Although the Jags will return to EverBank Stadium in twenty 318 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: twenty six, plenty is happening behind the scenes. 319 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Of course. 320 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: Construction for the Stadium in the Future is ongoing, and 321 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: we want you to be prepared when you arrive at 322 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: the Bank for a game in twenty twenty six. All 323 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: construction updates and other Stadium in the Future news is 324 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: available at Jaguars dot com slash Stadium of the Future. 325 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: This is the Huddle Up Podcast, JP Shadrick, John Osier, 326 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: and Bucky Brooks also out of the NFL annual meeting 327 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: in Phoenix this week. League ownership unanimously approving Camping World 328 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Stadium in Orlando as the host site for Jaguars home 329 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty seven. Shot Con, Mark lamping Tony 330 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: Boselli all came from Phoenix to Orlando for a Wednesday 331 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: press conference. 332 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they didn't fly coach. 333 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: They got there today with the Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer, 334 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: Orange County Mayor Jerry Dimmings, Jacksonville Mayor don A Degan 335 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: there as well Florida Centras Sports CEO Steve Hogan. 336 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: All. 337 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: Part of the day is today shot con on what 338 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: the league looks for in temporary homes for. 339 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 6: Teams when an NFL team has to find a temporary home. 340 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 6: When it happens, the league is obviously very careful about 341 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 6: getting everything right, and that's especially true on game days 342 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: because the game days are the most important day on 343 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 6: the calendar and we want everything to be perfect on 344 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: game days for the players, officials, fans, sponsors, broadcast partners, 345 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 6: and many more. So when you think about getting all 346 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 6: that perfect while you're playing your home games on the 347 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 6: road for a season, you can understand the league's insistent 348 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 6: that everything must be right. So and I believe the 349 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 6: league got it right yesterday with the unanimous approval of 350 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 6: Orlando is our home here next year in twenty twenty seven. 351 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 6: So I do want to thank Commissioner Roger Goodell and 352 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 6: the other thirty one owners. Obviously we were sold on 353 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 6: Orlando from day one, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 354 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 6: particular for their support and really making all this happen 355 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 6: along with all the people who were here. 356 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: Obviously wouldn't happen without you. 357 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 6: So we look forward to getting to know you better 358 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 6: and for our cities to get closer for the months 359 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: and years ahead. And thank you very much for being 360 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 6: here and go Jags. 361 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: Set con earlier on Wednesday, the full press conference and 362 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: media availability at Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, and Bucky. 363 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's fairly rare. 364 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: I mean, the Bears did it most notably when they 365 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: renovated Soldier Field, they had to go down and play 366 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: at place looks close to shod Conocourse University of Illinois. 367 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: So that's a little bit of the explanation behind it. 368 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: The Buccaneers have some rights to that marketplace. We won't 369 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: get into full detail of that. That's why you think 370 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: the buck's there. But now it's a box checked and 371 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: the Jags can now work on the logistics behind it 372 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: to be ready. 373 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could be a fantastic thing. I 374 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: think it gives the Jags an opportunity to expand the 375 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: fan base while still stay close enough for the true 376 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: fans to come down and be a part of it. Also, 377 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: the stability and being in the same place for each 378 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: of your home games as opposed to bouncing around. I 379 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: think it makes it an easier deal for the team 380 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: to get prepared, team to get ready for And because 381 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: we're talking about not this year but next year. I 382 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: just think it's a great move. And we know Cier 383 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: Orlando is great. It'd be a fun I guess staycation 384 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: for some people to get away while still taking into 385 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: Jaguars games for a weekend. Should be a fun experience 386 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: for everybody involved. 387 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: Me and Bucky will be hitting uh what's the uh 388 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: Treasure Island is where that is? 389 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 390 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: I may go maybe may go to Disney a few times. 391 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: I mean, like it'll change change my routine coming in. 392 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: But you're gonna run the tea cups, the teacup ride, Bucky, 393 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: You're gonna ride that. 394 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: I gotta be careful. I may have to take a 395 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: little drummer and a little queasy. I can a little 396 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: queezy on rides, and even though the teacups are light spinning, 397 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: can get your boys. I gotta be careful. 398 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to assume because the staff of the Jaguars 399 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: does a great job presenting games, so I'm gonna assume 400 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: the game is gonna get presented great. There's more of 401 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: a football show. So I asked Bucky a football question 402 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: about this. I've gotten a lot of input from fans, 403 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: and I think understandably so uh only I think six 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: regular season games at the Bank next year, which means 405 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: you're away from here a lot, and then none in 406 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. My experience around good teams again, when 407 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: I was with the Cold, they were a very good 408 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: road team. This team last year was a very good 409 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: road team. Went and beat Denver, went and beat San Francisco. 410 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: I think they lost two road games, didn't have a 411 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: great day in London. But beyond that, away from here, 412 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: should have beaten Cincinnati and shouldn't beat in Houston. I 413 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: mean it was a very good road team. I'm around it, Bucky. 414 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: You're more in the locker room on game day. 415 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: Than I am. 416 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: I kind of have confidence in this group the way 417 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: they do things. I think it's important to have established 418 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: what they established last year, because I do think there 419 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: is something about the process of going on the road. 420 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 2: Once teams figure out how to do it well, you 421 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: can stay in a routine and stay in a mindset 422 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: of it. Am I going down the right path? There 423 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: is there something to that. Do you have confidence in 424 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: this team playing wherever they need to play? 425 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, like, however you want to say it, 426 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: Like some people say spot the ball, other people say anyone, anytime, 427 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: any place, like it doesn't it doesn't matter. Like I 428 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: think you take all the excuses away from the players. 429 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 4: You say, look, this is what it is, no excuses. 430 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: We expect to go and play well, whether that's in Orlando, Jacksonville, 431 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: going to London, going on the road to play any 432 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: of the teams. We expect to be the same team. 433 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: And the good teams travel well, they continue to bring 434 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: the same consistent performance home road that is a maturity 435 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: about being a championship caliber team, and what we hope 436 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: to do is continue to take strides to being at 437 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: But now, what it does, it gives Liam and the 438 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: staff a full year to study how other teams have 439 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: done it and done it successfully when they've had to 440 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: play at a neutral site or they had to play 441 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 4: away from their normal home. What do they do to 442 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: get ready? Does it change the way that they go 443 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: to the game. Do they go to Orlando the night before? 444 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: Do they go with the day of or like Saturday 445 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: as opposed to Friday, Like what is the travel logistics 446 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: all about? So it gives them plenty of time the 447 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: plan prepare well, Like I think at the end of 448 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: the day, man, when we kick it off down in Orlando, 449 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: this team is gonna be ready to play. Well. 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always kind of thought JP and you you 451 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: probably know where I'm going with this, because we talked 452 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: a lot about these kind of things. People get really 453 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: caught up in, like teams record in certain situations. You know, 454 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: what are they on the road, what are they on 455 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: the West coast? You know, for years and Jaguars couldn't 456 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: win on the West Coast right, Well, guess what. For 457 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: years of Jared's weren't very good at an't win anywhere 458 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: no matter what time. So and about that, but you 459 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: know it's good teams tend to win wherever they go play, 460 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: and I think this team. So for people who are 461 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: worried about, well they're only playing six games at the Bank, well, okay, 462 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Well they beat Denver in San Francisco on the road 463 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: last year. 464 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: Those were. 465 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Outside of La me and the Rams in Seattle. It 466 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: was maybe the two toughest games and they went and 467 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: handled it. So I don't necessarily I know it's going 468 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: to be a topic because it's an easy topic, but 469 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: I don't worry about that with this team going forward, We've. 470 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Got plenty of time to dig into that. Moving ahead. 471 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Final quick thought with you, Buck. 472 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: You got Fernando Mendozo's pro day coming up on Wednesday? 473 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Does it matter? I mean, what does he have to 474 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: do to not be the number one pick? 475 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: Oh? Look, I don't think it matters now, but I 476 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: think it matters from my perspective. Like you just think 477 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: about like all the number one picks and the quarterbacks 478 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: that have been number one. You want to see how 479 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: he sacks up in comparison to those guys. What does 480 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: he look like, going all the way back to Matthew Stafford, 481 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: how does he compare it to Trevor Lawrence? What are 482 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 4: his tools and talent like compared to those guys. Because 483 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: there's one thing about being a number one overall pick. 484 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: Everybody expects you to be the best player in the 485 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: draft class. And whether it's true or not, there's the 486 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 4: expectation that when the number one overall pick takes the field, 487 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 4: particularly as a QB one, he's special. So I want 488 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: to get a chance to see how special is Mendoz 489 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: And because and knowing him and studying him, I know 490 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 4: he doesn't have like those special tools physically, so that 491 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 4: means the intangibles, the other stuff has to be off 492 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: the charts to warrant being the number one overall pick 493 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: regards to where he goes. He's going to go number 494 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: one or whatever, but I want to see what that 495 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: looks like in comparison, because going to the AFC, we 496 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: know the AFC is loaded with quarterbacks, loaded with elite quarterbacks. 497 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: If you don't have a quarterback, you don't have a chance. 498 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: So let's see what he looks like in comparison with 499 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: the guys that are really holding it down into AFC. 500 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: Landscape, John, I know he's gonna throw the heck out 501 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: of a back shoulder throw. 502 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering and doing my pre draft work. I 503 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: see where a Bucky's guy DJ compares Mendoza to cam Ward. 504 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 2: I get the sense the DJ likes Mendoza more than you. 505 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: He does. There are a lot of people that do. 506 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: It's funny, like you talk to coaches. Coaches love Mendoza, 507 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: but a lot of times because he can speak their language, 508 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: he can get on the board and X and O 509 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: and do those other things. For me, I kind of 510 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 4: look at him like if I'm playing defense to get 511 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: him against him? What it is superpowers? And everyone talked 512 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: about the superpowers being the intangibles to trade the toughness 513 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 4: and all that, Like that's great, but at some point 514 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: you got to make this throw from the opposite hash 515 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: to the sideline and can he deliver a don and 516 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 4: in the league because it quickly adapts what happens when 517 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: they take away his first read? Does he have the 518 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: ability to get to the second and third read? What 519 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 4: happens in a critical moment when he has to make 520 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: a big boy throw. We've seen our own Trevor Lawrence 521 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: have to make some of those plays last year. Camn 522 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: those who do that. So from a physical standpoint, that's 523 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: why I'm not asignum. He reminds me a lot of 524 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: Jared Golf. Yeah, and Jered Golf has been a four 525 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: time Pro Bowl player, but the machine and the support 526 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: system around him has been elite, and so I think 527 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: very similar with Mendoza. He's going to need to have 528 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: elite personnel around him to be the player that they 529 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: expected me as a number one overall. 530 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: Pick JP In thirty years doing this, I've been around 531 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: a lot of backup quarterback you know what they all 532 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: have in here? 533 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: They are I want. 534 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: I want my guy that I'm rolling out there to 535 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: have some tangibles. 536 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: That's right. 537 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: So that's also why some of the bus has been 538 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 4: on him and even the other quarterback to Simpson, because 539 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: all those intangible guys now have microphones, are on TV 540 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: and they love people that oh yeah, they remember I 541 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: love people that remind them of their ZiLs. But I 542 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 4: will tell you he loves this guy. He loves There's 543 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: a difference when someone is throwing a ninety six miles 544 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 4: an hour fastball and someone is having to live with 545 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: the knuckling. I like the knuckleball as a novelty. You 546 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: ain't gonna win a whole lot of games the knuckleball, Right, do. 547 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: You want to start game one of the series with 548 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: the guy with tangible? 549 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? You need your number one guy out there, all right, buck, Buck, 550 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: you're our number one guy. Appreciate you. You're the starter. 551 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: Hey, we got we got to start research. I gotta 552 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: research some hotels down in Orlando between twenty so I 553 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: gotta figure out what kind of adendum to put in 554 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: the contract and see where we can stay a branch. 555 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: Fucking bug. Thanks shoutah Oser, I'm j P. Shandferger. Thanks 556 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: to David, Joe and Joe Fortuneto. Thanks for listening to 557 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: Huddle Up.