WEBVTT - A time makeover: Before Breakfast listener Haley 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:09.240 Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:15.760 This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.840 episode is going to be a longer one part of 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.560 the series where I interview fascinating people about how they 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.639 take their days from great to awesome and any advice 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.480 they might have for. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.160 The rest of us. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.440 So today's episode is going to be something a little new. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.040 I'm delighted to bring you my guest whose name is Haley. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.720 She is a long time Before Breakfast listener who lives 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.920 in Texas works for a tech company. She was listening 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.919 to the new interview format and asked if I had 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.479 considered doing any listener time makeovers as part of an episode, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.640 and I said, well, I'd love to. Was Hailey interested 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:57.200 in volunteering? She was, so here she is Hailey, Welcome 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:57.760 to the show. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.360 Awesome, Thanks Laura, it's great to be here. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.920 So, Haley, could you just quickly introduce yourself to our listeners. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.560 Anything you'd like to share about yourself? 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.040 Yeah, definitely. So I'm Haley. I work full time as 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.880 a program manager and a tech company. I'm based in 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.600 Austin and I have a husband, no pets, and no kids. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.640 Excellent. And how long have you been listening to Before Breakfast? 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.679 Gosh, I think since the beginning. I've been such a 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.880 big fan. The small episodes are great little tidbits for 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.640 getting ready or whatnot, and the longer episodes have been 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:29.880 great to listen to as well. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.080 That's awesome. I'm excited to hear that. Have you ever 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.000 tried any of the tips that you've gotten from Before Breakfast? 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.679 Definitely? Yeah, quite a few. Definitely one is bashing the 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.360 little things. I do that all the time in my 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.000 work life in personal life. And then also the one 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.600 you did on making kits to be prepared. I have 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.040 that in the car pool bag, all that stuff that's good. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.520 I can't say that I have necessarily made as many 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.680 kids as I probably should have, but you know, one 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:02.720 of these days I will maybe take my own advice. So, Hayley, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.440 when we conversed the first time a few weeks ago, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.960 I told you that when I have people do time makeovers, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.120 I always have them keep track of their time for 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.359 a week. Longtime listeners know that I definitely suggest people 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.480 track their time just to see where the time really goes. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.040 So can you talk a little bit about the experience 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.360 of tracking your time and what you did as you 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.560 were keeping track of your time and how it worked 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.040 and whether you know what your experience. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.640 Was with that. Yeah, it was a great experience. So 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.920 just kind of for ease, I ended up printing out 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.120 like an Excel sheet that had the different timeboxes on 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.400 it every thirty minutes, and I was able to just 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.800 scribble in, you know, every once in a while what 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.600 I had done since the last time I checked in. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.040 I ended up then transposing that into an Excel file 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.400 just so I could get some more data and do 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.880 some additions all that type of stuff. But it was 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.360 a great experience. It definitely held me accountable to what 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.720 I was doing during the day, and it was really 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.520 fun to look back and see, you know, I have 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.799 a pretty busy work schedule, but there's also a lot 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.480 of hours outside of that, so really neat to see 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.400 where I was spending my time before we even talked. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.399 About it, Yeah, was it challenging to remember to keep 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.120 track of your time. I'm wonder if you had any 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.200 sort of ways to keep yourself sticking with it for 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:22.840 the whole week. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:24.040 Yeah. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.440 I mean, just like we carry our phones around, I 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.880 just carried around just a folded piece of paper with 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.480 the boxes, so I was able to just record it. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.239 You know, if I was doing an activity for a while, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.880 I just left it aside and then came back, so 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.600 it was pretty easy to remember generally what I had done. Also, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.240 on the work side, I ended up tracking the difference 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.400 between my actual work time versus my meeting time, which 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.600 was super interesting to see how much time I was 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.360 really spending in meetings during the week. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.600 How much time were you spending I'm curious. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.120 I think quite a bit of my days are focused 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.960 on meetings. I'd say maybe half of each day at least, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.920 so I'm really diligent about the times where I'm not 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.880 in meetings. They can sure I can get my stuff done. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.080 But that was neat to see across the span of 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.240 a week, you know, if I have a late work 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.000 meeting or something like that, but there are still days 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:13.880 where I get a lot of time to myself. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.120 Interesting and was it more challenging to keep track of 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.479 the time sort of outside of work. I know a 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.920 lot of people struggle on the weekends just because time 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.520 is a little bit more amorphous. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.320 Then that's a good point. Yeah, I guess if I 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.520 was out and about I certainly didn't check in as 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.279 much as I did during the week, but I also 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.520 have my calendar on my phone, so that was also 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.080 helpful to prompt me to remember, you know what we 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.160 did excellent. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.600 So as you were tracking your time, I mean, what 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.920 did you like most about your schedule as you were 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.200 looking back over it and say like, hey, this is 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:48.760 really working. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.080 I mean, what were those things? 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.560 Yeah, I think definitely in the mornings kind of how 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.560 I spend my morning time. I definitely am looking for 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.880 ways to optimize that, but I think I have a 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.599 pretty good routine when it comes to how I spend 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.560 my pre work hours. Definitely after work, so I post 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.880 work hours sometimes that's different. I'm trying to pack a 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.920 lot into that time, and so that was interesting to 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.040 tracking to see exactly what I was doing where I 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.800 had more full days versus not. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.719 Can you talk a little bit about your morning routine? 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.880 I mean, what generally are you doing in your mornings? 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.080 When do they start and when do you start work? 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.080 And maybe you can talk us through one of them. 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.080 Yeah, definitely. So I get up fairly early around six. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.400 Sometimes I try to get up a bit earlier, but 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.760 mostly thround the six to six thirty range, and I 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.840 definitely prioritize working out, having a cup of coffee. And 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.640 I think that was one of the biggest learnings from 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.680 this experience is you know, there's so many there's a 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.719 lot of content out there about morning routines, five am, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.640 miracle morning, all of that, And it was a good 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.760 learning to me that I don't necessarily need to be 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.360 getting up that early. If I'm getting in what I 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.599 want to give on which for me is now a 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.359 you know, fifteen step list, it's working out and having 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.760 a cup of coffee, you know, get ready before work. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.560 So normally I try to start my mornings pretty consistently. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.280 Get up, get that workout in to get energy, have 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.480 my cup of coffee, get ready. I normally start work 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.680 around eight am, and then have lots of meetings, work time, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.559 all of that, and then normally in my day around five, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.279 sometimes a little bit after if I have other meetings. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:27.960 Yeah. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.880 So when Haley and I first talked, I mean, she 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.480 mentioned possibly revamping her morning routine and getting up a 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.040 little bit earlier so she had more time before work. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.200 But we talked about it so well, Yeah, I mean, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:44.080 the only reason to have a longer morning routine is 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.760 if you are not able to fit those things into 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.760 other parts of the day. I mean there's upsides obviously 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.599 to working out first thing in the morning, and that 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.080 a lot of people find they have more energy then, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.960 or there's you know, fewer things that get in the way. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.320 You know, there's fewer work emergencies perhaps at six thirty 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.839 am versus six thirty pm that you're going to be 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.279 dealing with. But you know, said, there's no point in 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.600 making a more elaborate morning routine just to do so, right, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.120 if you don't need to get up earlier to fit 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.400 these things in your life, you don't have to. I mean, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.080 was that enough to change your mind? 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.080 Definitely? Yeah. I think it takes the pressure off of 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.960 needing to wake up super early just to pack, you know, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.480 pack things into the schedule. I think it's great to 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.400 wake up when you need to and not have so 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.640 much of a hectic morning when you can. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.120 Well and still two hours between when you get up 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.400 and when you start work is not a short amount 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.080 of time. I mean, that is a especially since you 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.559 were working out pretty regularly, that's a pretty substantial morning 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.120 routine already there. Yeah, well we're going to take one 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:50.840 quick ad break, and then we're going to be coming 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.800 back talking a little bit more about the things that 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.040 Haley did decide to change in her schedule. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:03.280 Well, I am back. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.800 I am interviewing Before Breakfast listener Hailey, who lives in Texas, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.200 works for a tech company. As part of one of 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:14.040 our longer episodes of Before Breakfast, Haley agreed to do 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.520 a time makeover, so she kept track of her time 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.920 for a week. She thought about what she liked, and 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.120 then she thought about what she might want to change. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.120 So the weekend that you tracked, you had a pretty 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:30.040 good active weekend, but you said that wasn't necessarily always 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:31.120 the way things happen. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.800 I wonder if you could talk a little bit about that. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.480 Definitely, I think a lot of that ties into I 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.200 do really like planning, but I wasn't necessarily planning my 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.480 weekends as much as I would have liked. And I 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.760 think that in the time log, having that busy weekend 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.280 and coming out from that and knowing, you know, going 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.360 into my week that was kind of an exciting weekend. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.920 It's at the stage I didn't have the Sunday scaries. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.079 Definitely a learning for me that you know, even if 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.199 I'm not necessarily motivated to planning a weekend, being intentional 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.200 about it is super important and really sets you up 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.240 for success. So definitely a learning from that, and certainly 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.160 something I learned from you, Laura is really focusing in 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.880 on that double plan right, So yeah, why. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.480 Don't you talk about what the double planning means? There 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.040 may be some before Breakfast listeners who haven't heard that episode. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:26.400 So definitely if you haven't done it before, it's certainly magical. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.760 So what you do is, you know, planning on friday's 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.720 very normal, very standard, and during that Friday plan you're 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.960 firming up your plans for the upcoming weekend and you're 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.360 planning the rest of that week to come, but you're 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.280 also doing a plan for that following weekend. And what's 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.920 great about that is you know, on Friday you can 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.200 make some decisions for a future you and then when 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.760 you come to that next Friday, you've already thought through 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.320 that next weekend. So it's really neat. So instead of 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.640 you know, coming to it, coming to the planning and 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.439 it's all blank and you don't know what to do, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:57.959 you already have a starting point. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.920 Yeah, and the double plan is because you know, if 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.200 you plan on Fridays, that gives you an opportunity to 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.960 look at the weekend twice because you're looking at the 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.240 one that's coming up in eight to nine days, and 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.640 you're also looking at the one that's coming up right then. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.360 So I always think of this as having a sort 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.760 of vague, rough plan for the one eight to nine 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.600 days in the future, and then a more solid one 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:25.280 for the one that's right coming up exactly. Yeah, So 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.520 when did you try doing that over the past few weeks. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.840 Has that been something that's you know, been helpful for you. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.320 Yes, definitely, it's now fully into my routine. I don't 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.440 think I could live without it now. But it's it's 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.520 great to really see that full view of your week. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.640 Also have the weekends and be confident that you're going 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.600 into the weekends with something fun, things to look forward to. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.800 So, what's something that you have put into your weekend 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.720 that you've been looking forward to. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.280 Yeah, one thing that I focused on is this idea 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.480 of having something fun on Sunday evening. So I know 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.400 a lot of us make it Sunday scar or at 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.240 least kind of not wanting to go into the week 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.400 just yet, but trying to extend that Sunday time by 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.040 doing something memorable and kind of outside of the norm. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.400 So not just you know, sitting on the couch watching 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.560 something or you know, scrolling on your phone. So instead 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.720 on Sundays, what we've done is a Sunday game night, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.520 So my husband and I will play cards, or play 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.080 a board game, or go outside on a walk, just 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.679 something to kind of end the weekend on a high note. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:28.680 That sounds really fun. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:30.319 And then if you know what it is kind of 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.600 ahead of time, you can look forward to it right. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.880 Exactly, yep, and plan some fun time, fun things around it, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.079 mocktails and fun food and stuff like that. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.560 Yeah, because certainly, I mean, one of the things that 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.520 gives people the Sunday scaries is that you're starting to 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.000 think of Monday by mid afternoon Sunday. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.200 You know, that's the only thing that is there in 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.360 the future of your schedule. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.079 But if you have something fun on Sunday night, then 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.440 you spend your time on Sunday afternoon looking forward to 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.160 your fun on Sunday night, and so it makes it 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.200 just kind of changes the mental picture of what the 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.520 weekend looks like. Did you guys wind up doing anything 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.080 with your Friday nights. I think you had mentioned that 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.480 this was a potential you know, date night for you 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.160 guys as well. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.800 Yes, kind of something to bookend the weekend and really 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:23.200 kick off the weekend itself, and so really just being 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.680 more mindful on that afternoon, that evening as well. So 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.840 most of it is just kind of nothing fancy, but 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.440 going for a walk, something to kind of mark the 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.439 end of Friday, maybe going out for a drink or something. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.320 But that's been great to to kind of go into 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.360 the weekend and close out the week. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.360 Yeah, I'm a big fan of really enjoying the weekends 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.760 and having things that you're looking forward to when you're planning, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.720 because you know, planning isn't just about planning and the 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.840 things we have to do. It's also about planning in 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.800 the things that we want to do. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:56.680 Now. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:01.880 Of course, not everything I suggest works people, So tell 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.360 me a little bit about your the questions you'd had 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.720 about housework and where that fits into your life and 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:09.360 your schedule. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.760 Yes, so I know that housework is just a point 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.920 of contention for a lot of people certainly need too. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.720 It has to be done necessary. Evil I had experimented 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:23.240 with moving housework to a chunk of time an hour 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.320 on Sundays, thinking that maybe that would help me throughout 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.280 the week because I would get it out of the way. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.880 But when I experimented with it, I realized I immediately didn't 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.120 like it. It just you know, I really didn't want 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.160 to do housework on the weekends that's for relaxing, and 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.320 ultimately landed back to my normal cadence of just fitting 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.840 it in during the week. So that was definitely a 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.160 big learning that experimenting is good, but don't change something 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.160 if it's working for you. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.200 Yeah, I mean, so the idea had been I mean, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.160 one of the bits of advice I often give people 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.880 about concentrating housework and one chunk of time t is 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:05.600 so that it isn't always an option through your whole schedule. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.960 But partly I think this is often I'm giving this 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.640 advice to people with, say other household members, who create 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.800 lots of messes that you didn't create. Right, So if 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:22.800 your house stays clean once you clean it, then it's 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.120 not always an option to be getting up and putting 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.720 things away. So you know, it might work a little 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.000 better for doing it in bits and pieces versus concentrating 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.640 it at one point. But you know, if anyone's listening 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.000 to this and saying like, well, I feel like I 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.960 spend my life cleaning my house, you know you could 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.480 try this too, right is that create a block of 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.720 time on the weekend for doing the housework or maybe 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.800 one week night if you have time then and then 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.040 not have it be an option as much the rest 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.560 of the time. But you know, it's some people it works, 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.040 some people it doesn't. So I mean, what does it 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.760 tend to look like you just are doing a little 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.680 bit each night, or how does it wind up looking? 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.640 Yeah, here and there. So I have a checklist just 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.080 to make sure I cover kind of the bare minimum 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.320 cleaning tasks i'd like to during the week. And if 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.280 I have a moment while dinner's cooking, let's say, or 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.600 you know, I have a bit of a lull between 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.200 activities or things I'm doing, I'll just quickly get that done. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.400 I think it's helpful too, because sometimes there's time pressure, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 so it helps get me through the task quickly, but 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:27.800 I still get it done. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.800 So yeah, yeah, a lot of tasks will expand to 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.320 fill the available space. You know, housework's definitely one of them. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.160 Email is probably one of them as well, So limiting 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.240 things like that is definitely good. Well, I'm going to 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.360 take one more quick ad break and then we'll be 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.680 back with a little bit more from Haley about what 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:57.200 she saw with her time. Well, I am back interviewing Haley, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.200 who is a Before Breakfast listener who tracked her time 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.480 and tried a few different strategies for changing things up 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.600 here and there. So, Hayley, when you looked at your 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:13.360 weekday evenings, this was an area that you thought maybe we. 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:14.320 Could tweak a little bit. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:15.760 I wonder if you could talk a little bit about 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.120 what weekday evenings in general tended to look like. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.760 Definitely. So, yeah, my weekday evenings were still pretty busy 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.080 and almost kind of monotonous. Right you get out of 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.680 the workday, you've had a long day, you're kind of 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.920 just rolling into the normal routine of dinner and cleaning 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.400 the house maybe and going to bed. So I wanted 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:40.920 to make my weekday evenings more special, and so I 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.480 was experimenting with this concept of having a day for 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.200 me where I intentionally planned something that I'd like to do. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.240 So I picked Tuesdays. I thought that would be a 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.880 nice kind of treat I guess in the middle of 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.400 the work week to have some special time just for me. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.920 And shout out to my twin sister Hannah on this too, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.200 because we did this activity together to hold ourselves accountable. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.800 So I had brainstorm twitter ideas I think would be 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.359 relaxing for me. It's something I could look forward to, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.919 so definitely on the active side, I love golfing. I 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.800 know that seasonal, but going to the driving range and 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.120 hitting some balls is definitely something I love, so that 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.400 occurred sometimes on Tuesdays. I also had some other ideas 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.560 too if I needed to stay closer to home or 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.000 didn't have as much time, so I've gotten into coloring 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.640 in a coloring book, so that's been great to have 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.920 kind of an artistic outlet. Crocheting as well, write something 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.600 to do with my hands so I can turn my 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.639 brain off a little bit. So those have all been great. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.239 I'm adding to the list. I know sometimes you know, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.919 when you're in adult, hobbies can be hard to find, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.560 so I'm still on the journey there to add more 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.280 fun to that fun list. But yeah, the Tuesdays have 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.879 been really great to look forward to. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.520 Yeah, and I'm curious do you think you'll try to 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.439 come up with something you want to do every day Tuesday, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.560 or do you think you'll, you know, continue with this 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.840 experimenting with different things on Tuesday night. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.440 I might do a little of both. I definitely see 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.320 the value in doing something the same thing that you 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.600 can look forward to. I might also try, like workout 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.240 classes outside of the house. I normally work out, you know, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.040 just just in my living room, but you know, going 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.639 to a workout class or meeting people, meeting friends to 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.159 go do something and doing that on a routine I 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:29.440 think would really be great too. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:34.480 Yeah. Now, I often suggest that people take one night 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.639 during the week to do something that is not work. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.399 It's not housework, it's not caring for family members, but 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.919 something that you find intrinsically enjoyable. And by making it 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.120 the same night every week, you don't have to sort 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.720 of negotiate it every time. You don't have to think 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.600 is this the night? Is this not the night? Do 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.359 I have other things going on? You sort of just 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.280 block this out and know you always have something to 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.160 look forward to. And Tuesday worked well with your schedule, right, Haley, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.120 Because some other nights you were more likely to have, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.880 like later work commitments, but that was one that generally 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:09.520 didn't have. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.480 Something exactly Yep, awesome. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.480 Well, I wonder if you think, I mean, do you 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.240 think you will try tracking your time again in the future. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.120 I mean, was this something that was useful, or you know, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.400 do you think it's you now have a pretty good 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.800 impression of life, or I'm curious where you'll go from here. 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.640 Yeah, definitely, I love doing the time log. It really 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.840 holds me accountable. It's really great to see those learnings 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.520 and even from a perspective of moving through different seasons 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.560 of life. Right, you have that log of what you did, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.920 almost like a capturing memory. So I think I'll definitely 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.639 do that periodically, just to see what I'm doing with 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.840 my time, where I need to change, pivot that type 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:50.120 of thing. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:50.960 Awesome. 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.000 So, Hailey, we always ask people if there is something 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.080 you've done recently to take a day from great to awesome. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:00.879 That's kind of the tag line of this show. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.120 But I'm curious anything you've done recently that has been 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:06.679