1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: We've arrived at Week twelve. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: ahead of the Jaguars and the Cardinals. Let's start this 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: week with the Jaguars offensive line coach Son Seret with 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Brian Sexton after a dominant performance last week. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean I've been in this league, you know, 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: coming on a lot of years, and that's what you hunt. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: You know, you sit there, you preach it as a 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: coach to the players, saying you can take over a 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: game running the ball, and you know they hear it. 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: It's just not giving it lip service. 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 4: You know. 13 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Our coordinator, which is our head coach, really took it 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: to heart and he just kept calling those runs. 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 5: Man, is it the personality of this team to run first? 16 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 5: It's a quarterback driven league. 17 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 6: I get that. 18 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 5: But when I talk to Robert Hansey, when I see 19 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 5: how interchangeable some of the parts that you've put together 20 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: are when they get in there, it sures seems like 21 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 5: this is a run first team. 22 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 23 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of teams want to talk about identity, 24 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: and that's something we talk about. We want to be 25 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: the kind of team that strikes first, you know, and 26 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: strikes hard. You know, it's just one of those deals. 27 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: And you know, we have no problem with running the 28 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: ball and run it again and then run it again. 29 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: That's the kind team we want to be. 30 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: You've had to do a lot of different things. I mean, 31 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 5: Ezra Cleveland, do I think he's played very well? Has 32 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 5: to miss a game. You plug a guy in and 33 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 5: he goes, Anthon Harrison can't play. Plug Cole van Landon 34 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 5: and it goes, how difficult is it to build that 35 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 5: sort of cohesiveness no matter who you've got. 36 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's hats off to those guys, those young guys. 37 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Man. 38 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, you know, Cole van Landon did a hell 39 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: of a job. You know, he didn't blink a bit. 40 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: You know, he went in and played guard and then 41 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: you know, next week we said, hey, man, we need 42 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: you to play tackle. He's played the jumbo tight end, 43 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: he's done all three positions. You know, I tipped my 44 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: hat to him. There's a guy that's showing what he's worth, 45 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, and he did it at a high level 46 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: at all three positions. And we appreciate that. And that's 47 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: what the expectation in the room is. You know, we 48 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: want guys that can come in and play multiple positions. 49 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 5: A bunch of guys on the defensive side talked about 50 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 5: playing angry last week. If you can just go back 51 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: to that week between Houston and Los Angeles, what was 52 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 5: the mindset of your team, because that was a resounding 53 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: win last week, what was the mindset? And then how 54 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 5: do you replicate that after a win as opposed to 55 00:01:59,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: a law. 56 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, it's the standard. 57 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: It's been set, you know, the head coach is set 58 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: the standard of saying, you know, hey, we got to finish, 59 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, and we didn't finish against the Texans. And 60 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: you know, we made a big point of that during 61 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: the week. We did it at practice, you know, in 62 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: our meetings everything, you know, that was emphasized, you know, 63 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: and those guys took it to heart, you know, and 64 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: they didn't let up. You know, it's just one of 65 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: those deals. And even in the game, they were still 66 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: fired up about you know, let's run the ball more, 67 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: let's do this, and you know, they really took it 68 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: to the heart and finished. 69 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 5: At this time, it's probably easier to do after a 70 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: loss than a win. So how do you, as the 71 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: offensive line coach keep that mentality on finish in a 72 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 5: week where you win thirty five to six. 73 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Well that once again, that goes to them. You know, 74 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: I can sit there and I can give it lip service, 75 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: but the end of the day, they're the ones that's 76 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: going to drive it, you know. And you know, we 77 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: had this conversation the beginning of the year. We're going 78 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: to go as the old line goes, you know, And 79 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: it's and that's any NFL team, lit's sens breal. If 80 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: you've got problems on the line, you got problems and 81 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: people know it shows real fast. 82 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 5: Do you have an appreciation for number ninety three in Arizona? 83 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 5: Kala As Campbell is a guy who's been playing, I 84 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 5: mean a long time. 85 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 7: How difficult is he to defend? 86 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 8: Oh? 87 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 6: Man, he has been around a long time. 88 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Like you said, I can remember my days and with 89 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: the Steelers and him over at the Ravens, and you know, 90 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: an eighteen year guy. You know, it's unbelievable, you know, 91 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: and he's thirty nine or thirty eight years old, and 92 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: it's just like I'm sitting there thinking, to man, I 93 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: know how I felt at thirty eight, thirty nine. There's 94 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: no way I could have done this you know, you know, 95 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: hats off to him. There's a guy that's still doing 96 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: it at a high level and we you know it's 97 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: gonna be a tough week for our guys inside and 98 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: they know it. And just the type of player he is, I've. 99 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 7: Been a final thought. 100 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: You're in your first year here in this program, six 101 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 5: and four off to a great start. Robert Hainsey's here 102 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: in his first year coming over from Tampa to help 103 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: instill the system that Liam brought with him. How how 104 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 5: strong is the relationship that you've developed with Robert and 105 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: how valuable is he to you as the offensive line coach? 106 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh, he's He's priceless to us man, he's the he's 107 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: our field general, you know, and you know it's the 108 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: idea of him being able to communicate not only with 109 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: the guys in the room, but with other positions, and 110 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: everybody looks to him for answers, you know, and you know, 111 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: even me sometimes I got to realize how he's playing 112 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: a certain way and how he sees things, you know, 113 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: and that's just how it is, you know. But he's 114 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: done an unbelievable job and that's somebody you know that's 115 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: going to be here for a long time with us. 116 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: Spirouddas has the call of the game again this week 117 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: on the NFL on CBS. It's the second of three 118 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: straight Jags games. His crew will call the NFL on 119 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: CBS back out of this week the Jaguars and the 120 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals coming up. 121 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Spirou Addas also had the call of the Chargers Jaguars 122 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: game last week. 123 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Great to see you against Bureau and I don't know 124 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: how many people sold that kind of performance coming, but 125 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: it tells you a lot about maybe where this team's 126 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: going down the stretch. 127 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 6: Yeah. 128 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: I thought it was a significant moment for Liam Cohen 129 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: and the staff. I thought it was a significant moment 130 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: for the team because, as you know, when you have 131 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: an experience or traumatic experience the way they had the 132 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: week before against the Texans, that next game is so 133 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: critical and I think so often tells you about the 134 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: character and the makeup of a team, and so to 135 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: have the performance that they did against the Chargers team 136 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: JP that came in confident, the way that they were playing, 137 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: they just knocked off for a confident Pittsburgh team. 138 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: The week before. 139 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: I thought it says a lot about the team. I 140 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: thought it was a big moment for Liam his message 141 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: I think is clearly resonating. That's always an encouraging sign 142 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: for a team that's trying to climb the ranks and 143 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: as send the way that they are, And I just thought, overall, 144 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 4: if I'm a Jacks fan, really encouraging sign because I 145 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: think that truly was the significant psychological hurdle that they 146 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: that they cleared on Sunday. 147 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: Well, the Jaguars defense, I mean, put together an incredible 148 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: performance against one. 149 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: Of the top offenses in football. 150 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: I guess the question now is that sustainable because we've 151 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: seen some of that this year then has gone away 152 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: for a while. How do they sustain that moving ahead? 153 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think when you can affect the quarterback the 154 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: way that they were able to on Sunday and really 155 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: defanged an offense that again was really starting to play well. 156 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: I know the Chargers have had O line issues and 157 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: protection issues, but Justin Herbert has had a really, you know, 158 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 4: all pro type season and he just never looked comfortable 159 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: in that game. And I think when you can do 160 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: that upfront with your front, it masks some issues that 161 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: you have on the back end. And clearly Jacksonville right 162 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: now has some injuries in the secondary and that part 163 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: of the field that I think is a concern for sure. 164 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: But if Trayvon Walker, if josh Heinz Allen can get 165 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: to the quarterback to the way that they did on Sunday, 166 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: I think it is sustainable. But you know, we're just 167 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: gonna have to wait and see how they look this 168 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: week and over the next couple of weeks. 169 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Be really this with a CBS sports. 170 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: On the offensive side, they had five offensive linemen on 171 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: the injury report last week going into the game. For those, 172 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: one of those was a starter that didn't play. Of course, 173 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: four of them total were starters. But they showed to physicality, 174 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: didn't They almost two hundred yards rushing, and that that's 175 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: what this offense it feels like Liam Cohen said it 176 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: after the game, that's what they are. 177 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: They're a physical brand of football up front. 178 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: And if they're doing that then they're in pretty good 179 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: shape with a quarterback balancing him out as well. 180 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think look, when you just to your point, 181 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: I thought the offensive line played really well. I was 182 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: very impressed with cole Van Lannon. You know, last couple 183 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: of weeks, he's been plugged in at multiple positions and 184 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: he's performed really well. I think last week he had 185 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: basically a clean sheet, didn't allow sack, didn't allow pressure, 186 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: was solid in the run game, and so I thought, 187 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: you know, he quitted himself very well. And this has 188 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: always been the thing with Jacksonville, at least in the 189 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: last couple of years. They just their offensive line. They 190 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: just have never been able to truly figure it out, 191 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: whether it be injuries, whether it be guys underperforming. And 192 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: the one thing that I think is most impressive when 193 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: you look at what Liam and James Gladstone are trying 194 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: to build, is that that tough, physical brand of football. 195 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: And I think if you can give Trevor Lawrence an efficient, 196 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: powerful run game, I think it just takes so much 197 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: pressure off his shoulders and it balances what they can 198 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: possibly be offensively. But you know, I remember we had Jacksonville, 199 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: I think week two or three JP when we sat 200 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: with Liam the first time I had met with him 201 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: in a setting like that where he really kind of 202 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: went through what his offensive philosophy is. We walked out 203 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: of that meeting thinking, boy, if they can figure this 204 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: out and put this plan to fruition this, they could 205 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: really have something. And I think his philosophy of physical, 206 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: smash mouth football is something that lends it lends itself 207 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: to sustainable success in this league. And I thought that 208 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: that second half Sunday was really one of the first 209 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: times we've seen what it can truly look like on 210 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: the field and in real time. 211 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: Spirodda's CBS Sports has to call the Jaguars and the 212 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: Cardinals quick look at Arizona. I mean, this is a 213 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: beat up football team. For their seven captains are on 214 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: ir this year. They're deep down on the running back room. 215 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Of course, the quarterback is Jacoby Brissett now with Kyler 216 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Murray on injured reserve. But Brissett throws forty seven completions 217 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: last week NFL record. They're up against it. They had 218 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: to throw it around to try to get back in 219 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: the game. 220 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: But Brissett. Do they have any spark here in Arizona? 221 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 222 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: I think the Cardinals are in a really they're in 223 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: a bad spot. Two weeks ago, they were down thirty 224 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: five nothing to Seattle before halftime, and the very next 225 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: week you get blown out at home again to a 226 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: division opponent. I mean that game was never competitive against 227 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, so a lot of those numbers 228 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: from Jacoby Brissette. 229 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I love Brissett. 230 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm one of his biggest fans. I think he's you know, 231 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: he's proven himself to be very serviceable quarterback in this 232 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 4: league for a long time. Beloved in every locker room. 233 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: He's been in a lot of those numbers. You know, 234 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: if we're being honest, probably a little empty. You know, 235 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 4: you're down by twenty plus points. You're just trying toss 236 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: it around, like you said, make plays. This was an 237 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: Arizona team JP as you know, they went into the 238 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: season year three of this regime with Jonathan gan and 239 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: Manteasin Ford. They were expected to contend for a playoff spot. 240 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: So to look at where they are three and seven, 241 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: they've lost seven of their last eight games, and now 242 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: they're real questions about do they have to move on 243 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: from Kyler Murray. So I think that they're in a 244 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: spot that no franchise wants to be in. You know, 245 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of people that expect 246 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: there to be a potential coaching change. Does Jonathan Gannon 247 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: even make it to the end of the season. Those 248 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: are all the questions that they're having to ponder an 249 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: answer right now In Arizona. Not a fun time to 250 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: be a fan of the Cardinals. 251 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Not at all. 252 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: It's always a fun time to be a fan of 253 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell, though, eighteenth year in the National Football League, 254 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: five sacks, still impacting the game. I mean last year, 255 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: the guys in handcuffs two hours before the Jaguars game 256 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: and then comes out with a sack and a TfL 257 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: in the first two plays. This guy has unlimited petrol 258 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: in his tank, I think. 259 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: And I bet he had a smile on his face 260 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: later that day when he finished playing that game. 261 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: You know he is. 262 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: He is a physical mare. I think everyone knows that 263 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: a guy at his size to be able to play 264 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: now into the age of forty with the punishment that 265 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: you take at that position is one thing. The other 266 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: thing that strikes me, And we've had a chance to 267 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: sit with Kalais now multiple times over the last couple 268 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: of years, with all these different stops that he's experienced, 269 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: and Adam rcha Letta brought this up. When you're a 270 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: veteran player in the NFL who's been a star early on, 271 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: and as you age and your role is decreased more 272 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: often than not, not by your choice, but the coach's 273 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: choice because of maybe diminishing skills or just father time, 274 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: you tend to become a little bitter as a player, 275 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: and Arch has said that the biggest thing that strikes 276 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: him once you get past all the physical stuff. 277 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Is just his disposition is so is so amazing. 278 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: He's still so positive and such a team oriented guy. 279 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: He's accepted his lesser role. He's been just like a 280 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: god send in every locker room he's been in, whether 281 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: it be Miami, whether it be now with the Cardinals, 282 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: And I just think that makes him even more unique 283 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 4: with all the other stuff that we marvel at with him, 284 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: all the physicality and just the sheer size of him 285 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: as a person. You know, if you sit with him 286 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: in the same room, that's the only time you can 287 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: truly appreciate just how large of a man he is 288 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: and his physical skill set to be able to move 289 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: the way he does and be so nimble. But he's 290 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 4: just he's an incredible guy. I think, you know, you 291 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: can make a pretty good argument that he should be. 292 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame one day, and obviously has 293 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: an impact on what Josh heinz Allen learned. 294 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: As a rookie. They were teammates together. 295 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: You see that weekend and week out, the way he 296 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: goes about his business. 297 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: All right, Spiro, have a great call. We'll do it 298 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: again next week. I guess right. 299 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: Sounds good, brother. 300 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco visits with Mike Dempsey 301 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: each and every week. 302 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 9: You know, Mike, it was I thought it was a 303 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 9: telling week for that. I really did, you know, coming 304 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 9: off of a disastrous loss the way he did, and 305 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 9: you know, blowing the fourth to the fourth quarter lead 306 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 9: to a backup quarterback. You could go one of two ways, 307 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 9: and I think Liam Cone did a great job getting 308 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 9: back refocused and you know, getting them and getting their 309 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 9: heads into it, and you can clearly see they were 310 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 9: a different football team. They were physical from the start, 311 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 9: the mistakes were limited, and I think as a group 312 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 9: it might have been their best game of the year. 313 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I totally agree. It was their best game 314 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 10: of the year. But do you think we're past that 315 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 10: hurdle now? Is this the focused effort we'll get on 316 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 10: a week to week basis or is it still hold 317 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 10: your breath and hope? 318 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 9: Well, I think, Mike, I think in the NFL it's 319 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 9: told your breath and hope, because there's always the ups 320 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 9: and then there's always the down. Even for the good teams, 321 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 9: the experienced teams, you've seen that this year. So when 322 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 9: you have a young team, this is one of those 323 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 9: weeks where you come off of victory where you feel 324 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 9: good about yourself and you've got to go back out 325 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 9: on the road and you've got to get refocused again. 326 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 9: You can't allow it to go back down. So again, 327 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 9: you would think that they would. Last week did a 328 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 9: really good job for kind of getting out of that pattern. 329 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 9: But let's see, because again, you got to stack those 330 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 9: Until they start stacking them, then you won't truly believe 331 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 9: that they can get beyond that. 332 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 10: I like to see them stack that running game that 333 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 10: they had last week. 334 00:13:59,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 6: Pete. 335 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 10: It was great early in the season. It seems to 336 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 10: be coming around again here. 337 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 6: Now. 338 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 10: Is this something you think they'll be able to rely 339 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 10: on over the final seven weeks of the season. 340 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 9: Well, you would think so, and I think that's ideally 341 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 9: what they want to do. I mean, they were physical 342 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 9: and you watch the tape and the offensive line. 343 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 6: Got after it. 344 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 9: I you know, Ezra Cleveland was really good, Hainesy was good, 345 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 9: and McCarry's been good the last couple of weeks, and 346 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 9: you know, Cole Van Lennon filling in a right tackle 347 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 9: was good. So the answer to your question is yes, 348 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 9: I think that's what they want to do, whether it 349 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 9: be you know, with Tutin, whether it be with you know, EPN. 350 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 9: They want to run the ball and take the pressure 351 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 9: off the passing game, and I think they did a 352 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 9: great job of that last week. 353 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 10: Jacobe Myers has come in and led the team in receiving, 354 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 10: not eye popping numbers, but consecutive weeks since he's gotten here, Pete, 355 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 10: are you surprised by how big his impact has been already? 356 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 9: No, He's a pros pro and you can see it 357 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 9: in the way they respond to him. But you could 358 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 9: see it on the field too. I mean he's a glider, 359 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 9: he knows how to sit down and zones, he knows 360 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 9: how to beat man coverage. You know, when you look 361 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 9: at additions to this team, I think it was a 362 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 9: great one. And look, they had problems at wide receiver, 363 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 9: They've had injuries at wide receiver, and getting a guy 364 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 9: like that to come in and be a PROS pro 365 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 9: and show those guys how to do it and show 366 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 9: the fact that he can be an effective player in 367 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 9: the middle of the field. I think that's big for 368 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 9: that team. It's big for Trevor Lawrence. 369 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 10: Well, speaking of problems that wide receiver, we learned earlier 370 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 10: in the week that the Arizona Cardinals will be without 371 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison Junior for the second consecutive week, following an 372 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 10: appen deck to me. But their passing game was on 373 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 10: point last week. Michael Wilson had a huge game, Greg 374 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 10: Dortsch was very good, and Trey McBride's been outstanding all 375 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 10: season long. And Jacoby Brissett said an NFL record with 376 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 10: forty seven completions. How much pressure is this passing game 377 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 10: going to put on the Jags this week? 378 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 9: Well, I think McBride is number one, and you know 379 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 9: that he's been outstanding, and I think you have to 380 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 9: do everything you can to take him away. A couple 381 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 9: weeks ago, they had all kinds of problems with brought 382 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 9: Bowers and they got in some bad situations and matchup issues. 383 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 9: You know, they got blocked in with the safeties. You 384 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 9: can't do that. The safeties can't be in man. The 385 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 9: man coverage with Trey McBride is going to eat him alive. 386 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 9: So I think you got to do a lot of 387 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 9: things to try and take him away. And if the 388 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 9: other guys, if Wilson and Doors and that group and 389 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 9: they beat you, then have at it. And I think 390 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 9: that's going to be the focus of the defense. I 391 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 9: think that'll be priority number one. 392 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: Now. 393 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 9: It's easier, said that done, to take away try and 394 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 9: take away a guy like McBride. I would double them, 395 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 9: beat him up, do everything I can to take him 396 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 9: out of the game and let those other guys beat you. 397 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 10: All right, give us a kind of an X factor player, Pete, 398 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 10: somebody from the Jags that you think could have a 399 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 10: big impact on this game that we haven't discussed so far. 400 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 9: I think when you look at the backhand, I think 401 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 9: you know the safety both of them have to play big, 402 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 9: and there's been games where both those guys have had 403 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 9: problems back there. And when they've had problems, one being 404 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 9: you know, getting caught in bad situations. For Winger when 405 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 9: he's matched up, he's athletically limited, matched up in one 406 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 9: on one situations, he's been beat and Antonio Johnson, who 407 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 9: had an interception last week, getting caught in some situations 408 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 9: where he doesn't, you know, exactly play the defense the 409 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 9: right way. If those two guys can play sound football 410 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 9: and they're gonna be big and trying to take away McBride, 411 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 9: then I think the defense can limit what they do 412 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 9: in the passing game. So I put those two on 413 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 9: the radar. 414 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 10: A big opportunity for the Jags to get to seven 415 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 10: and four peak. Do they get the job done today? 416 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 9: I think they do. I think they're a better team. 417 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 9: I think that you know, yeah, there's gonna be some 418 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 9: emotional letdown. You got to go across the country. You're 419 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 9: playing a team you should beat. But if this team 420 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 9: is what we think they can be and what they 421 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 9: showed last week, they go out there and they win 422 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 9: the game today. So I'm taking I'm taking the Jaguars 423 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 9: to win the game. 424 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Eric Armstead is put together a solid campaign 425 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: so far, and he caught up with Brian Sexton in 426 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: the locker room. 427 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 11: I think just having a growth mindset, getting better and 428 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 11: better as the season goes on, and you know, down 429 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 11: the stretches where you want to be playing your best football. 430 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 11: So just keeping our foot to the pedal and keep 431 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 11: getting better. 432 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 5: I'm not asking to beat your chest, But it your 433 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: seems like this defensive line feeds off of your energy. 434 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Is that something that you focus on my energy being 435 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 5: that guy for that defensive line group. 436 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 11: I just wanna, you know, make plays and how my 437 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 11: team win games. And that's always been my mindset. So 438 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 11: we got a really good group that I love being around, 439 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 11: and you know, we're having fun out there. 440 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: What did it mean to you guys to have the 441 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 5: young guys coming off the edge last week? I mean 442 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 5: both Danny and BJ contributed in a pretty good way. 443 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, that was great to see, you know them them 444 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 11: get an opportunity and contribute. You know, we would believe 445 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 11: in everyone on our our d line that when they're 446 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 11: out there, they're going to contribute and play well. So 447 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 11: that was great to see. 448 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: Been on teams that have gone deep into the playoffs 449 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl. You know, this team has been 450 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: a bit up and down at times in its history, 451 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 5: not just this year. 452 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 7: How do you how do you take a huge. 453 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 5: Win and come back and play consistently as a team 454 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: and not not ride the roller coaster for a season. 455 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 11: I think you got to learn how to win games 456 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 11: in certain fashions and I think, you know, last week. 457 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 6: Uh, with a big lead, we we can. 458 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 11: Need to attack and you know, have that sense of 459 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 11: urgency and so. 460 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 6: You know, it's game. Every game is different. 461 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 11: There's gonna be times where it's a you know, back 462 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 11: and forth and it's gonna come down in the wire 463 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 11: and someone's gonna have to make a play and executing 464 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 11: a pressure situation. Or it's gonna be times where you 465 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 11: know you're having to fight back for a lead or 466 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 11: times where you're having to protect the big leads. So 467 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 11: it's just learning learning how to win in those different situations. 468 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: You know, this Area Zona team better than most in 469 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 5: this locker room. Jaguars have only played there twice in 470 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: thirty one years. Their record isn't great, but it looks 471 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: like there's enough dangerous players there that they can ruin 472 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 5: your day. 473 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 6: Arizona's a good team. 474 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 11: Like I said, you can't sleep on anybody in this league, 475 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 11: and they have great players all over their offense, defense, 476 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 11: and special teams. And you know, I've I've played against 477 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 11: a bunch of them throughout my career being in that division. 478 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 11: So we're gonna have to, you know, come out there 479 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 11: with that same sense of urgency like I'm talking about. 480 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 6: And you know, jump on him fast. 481 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 7: Really, you're in a great spot. 482 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: With five and a half sacks, it seems like you 483 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: have put together a really good season with half the 484 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: season left to go. Does it feel like your best 485 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 5: season in a while. 486 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 11: I don't know, somewhat definitely better than last season. And 487 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 11: that was a focus on mind to to switch back 488 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 11: to playing inside. And you know, I had a lot 489 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 11: playing this offseason. Uh what I wanted to show out 490 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 11: there on the field this year. You know, I've had 491 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 11: some good seasons, So yeah, I would say it's it's 492 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 11: up there, but got a lot more to do. 493 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 5: Let's wrap with this some kalays Campbell's in his eighteenth season. 494 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 5: He's a guy we know a little bit around here. 495 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: You obviously know him. How about an appreciation? Do you 496 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: have one for a guy that can play that long 497 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 5: at that high of a level in this game? 498 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 6: Much appreciation? Uh? Kalais? 499 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 11: I really feel like paved the way for a tall 500 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 11: defensive lineman like me. You know, he showed what was 501 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 11: possible when people were questioning, you know, if being too 502 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 11: tall was was a negative and not being able to 503 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 11: play with leverage and. 504 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 6: All those things. 505 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 11: And you know, Kalais was my player comp coming out 506 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 11: of coming out of college, and you know, he really 507 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 11: showed what tall defensive linemen are capable of. And you know, 508 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 11: he's a mentor, big homy of mine. So much admiration 509 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 11: for him and what he's doing in his career, and 510 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 11: he's he's inspiring me. And you know, I don't know 511 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 11: if I'm a play eighteen, but you know he's continued 512 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 11: to inspire me each each and every year and show 513 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 11: what you can do playing at a super high level. 514 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 11: You know, when you're kind of getting up there in 515 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 11: age and people might not people might not expect that 516 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 11: out of you. He's he's becoming an outlier and showing 517 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 11: what showing what a player like that can do. 518 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: And finally, our weekly visit with Pride to the Jaguars 519 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: running back Fred Taylor Week twelve. The Jaguars, coming off 520 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: a massive win over the Chargers, heading west again to 521 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: face the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I think we learned 522 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: a little bit about this team last week, how they 523 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: got off the deck after the collapse in Houston. 524 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: What do you want to know about the team now? 525 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: Coming off a blowout, blowout win against the LA. 526 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 8: Chargers, JP Man, I think everybody wants to know the 527 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 8: same thing. What is this team really made of? You know, 528 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 8: last week we spoke a lot about bouncing back, you know, 529 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 8: the mental toughness that will require to bounce back and 530 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 8: just get a win. But in the fashion that they 531 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 8: got to win, these guys can be on an extreme high. 532 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 8: But again after the game, Coach Cohen, he talked about 533 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 8: this is who we are. It's about identity. This game 534 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 8: will show you who they are. This is a bigger 535 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 8: test this week versus a team who is not as 536 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 8: good as the team they played in the Chargers team 537 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 8: a week ago. This Arizona team plays hard, but they're 538 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 8: not as good as the Chargers. So will the Jaguars 539 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 8: be deflated coming in or will they be able to 540 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 8: get up versus opponent who isn't as good. So I 541 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 8: believe from a mental toughness standpoint point, this will show 542 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 8: more about this Jaguars team than a week ago. 543 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack's basically just decided to pounded at him last 544 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: week with the forty seven carries in the game, nearly 545 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: two hundred yards, and I mean Liam Cohen said, that's 546 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: what the identity of this team is. Is when the 547 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: offensive line is physical and they can run the ball. 548 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that. 549 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 8: Wholeheartedly when you go and look at the wins versus 550 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 8: losses and the losses they haven't They're not rushing over 551 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 8: one hundred yards, they're not protecting Trevor Lawrence. They're giving 552 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 8: up multiple sacks and each of these, each of their losses. 553 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 8: But in all of the wins that you know, it's 554 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 8: about ball control. It's about no turnovers. From the offensive side, 555 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 8: it's about no sacks. And again, the running backs are 556 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 8: getting double digit carries, double digit touches, whether you're even 557 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 8: throw in the pass game. So their identity on offense 558 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 8: is protect Trevor Lawrence, allow him to stay calm under pressure, 559 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 8: run the football to keep their pressure off of him. 560 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 8: On the flip side, they want to make sure they 561 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 8: get after the quarterback, create havoc and get turnovers. 562 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: Fred Taylor with us proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah, 563 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: and the Jaguars defense. I played very well, of course 564 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: last week and got after justin Herbert. You know, this 565 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: is a Cardinals team, as you talked about, they are 566 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: just beat up. They've got Oh my gosh, Fred, it 567 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: is I mean I thought the Jags were beat up. No, no, no, 568 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of guys on ir, including the 569 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: starting quarterback. So but Jacoby Brissett's been at it for 570 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: a while and he threw forty seven completions last week 571 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: in a losing effort. He's a veteran guy. If he 572 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: was as good, he'd probably be starting. But what's your 573 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: plan of attack against Brissette, especially when he has the 574 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: tight end and Trey McBride to throw too. 575 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 8: You know, just to double down on what you said 576 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 8: about their injuries, No, Kyler Murray, no Marvin Harrison, they're 577 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 8: running back. Emery did McCart is also a guy who 578 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 8: they depend heavily on. But Trey McBride, you know, versatile, 579 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 8: tight end, he can go after, he can catch, he 580 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 8: run great routes, he's fast. If you take him away, 581 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 8: then this is how you get after Jacobi Prissett. But Prissette, 582 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 8: you know Wilson McBride, those are his two big targets. 583 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 8: A week ago, Wilson had eighteen targets, fifteen catches for 584 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty five yards. McBride eleven targets, ten receptions, 585 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 8: one hundred and fifteen yards, So these are the two 586 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 8: guys they're gonna throw too. For the Jaguars, they have 587 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 8: to be able to show that they can rush for 588 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 8: down linemen. That way you can play tight coverage on 589 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 8: the back end and not have any gaps in your defense. Otherwise, 590 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 8: the Jags have shown that they're able to get after 591 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 8: you and create pressure via their blitz package. But if 592 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 8: they're gonna do that, Perssett who's savvy enough, a veteran, 593 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 8: he knows the quick game is going to be key 594 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 8: for them if the Jaguars are going to get after 595 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 8: them with bitch pressure. 596 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 12: So my key for. 597 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 8: Jacksonville defensively is to make the four down front come alive. 598 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 8: If they can get pressure with the front four, they'll 599 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 8: be successful. 600 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: And Fred, they did it last week. 601 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: They only blitzed I think nine percent of the time 602 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: in the game and got home a lot on Justin Herbert, 603 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: which was really good to see their lowest percentage of 604 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: blitz all season long. Fred Taylor with us, let's finish 605 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: with Kaleis Campbell. You know what else can we say 606 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: about one of the best players of all time? 607 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: He's fantastic. 608 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 8: Oh, JP, we can probably start with maybe we shouldn't 609 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 8: have never gotten rid of. 610 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 12: Let's start there. Kalays is just u. 611 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 8: He's a ball of joy man and big ball of 612 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 8: joy actually, one of the hugest humans on the face 613 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 8: of the earth, a tremendous person. Always nominated for Walter 614 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: Payton Man of the Year. You know, he's been great 615 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 8: off the field as well as he's been on the field. 616 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 8: And when you look at him, you say, he's not 617 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 8: slowing down before it got to be that big to 618 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 8: still have great pad level and still bend at his knees, 619 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 8: still getting it done, you know, just a you know, 620 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 8: a testament to his hard work, you know. And we 621 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 8: got to keep him out of the backfield because he's 622 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 8: a disruptor. So and he's going to be up for 623 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 8: this challenge. I don't know how many times has he 624 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 8: played the Jag since they let him go. 625 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, I remember last year he was in handcuffs two 626 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: hours before the game with Tyreek Hill and well, you know, 627 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: the the Dolphins game, and then comes out and has 628 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: a sack on the first play of the game. 629 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: Fred. 630 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 12: See, So this is the type of teammate he is too. 631 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 8: Not that he caused trouble, but that the South Beach 632 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: police actually put two guys in handcuffs. 633 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 12: That maybe they didn't really need to that day. 634 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 8: But that's the whole different story that has nothing to 635 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 8: do with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But Calais again, he's that 636 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 8: type of teammate that he's gonna be right there, which 637 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 8: is regardless of the fact, and if you don't have 638 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 8: him in handcuffs, more than likely. 639 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 12: He's going to be getting after your quarterback. 640 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got five sacks of the season, not slowing 641 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: down at all, probably his last year. 642 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: Fred, let's do it man. 643 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: The Jags with the playoff race, seven seed, they've got 644 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: tie breakers against the Chargers and Chiefs. 645 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: They just got to handle business the next few weeks. 646 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, you gotta handle business the next few weeks because 647 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 8: when you look at a JP you got you know, 648 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 8: fourteen is it? Three teams with winning records and the 649 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 8: well two teams with running records actually I apologize, and 650 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 8: the Coats and the Broncos, and then the other teams 651 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 8: you got Titans twice, you got Arizona. 652 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 12: When you throw them in there, it's one of. 653 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 8: The Jets and the Jets that are pretty pretty bad. 654 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 8: But again from a mental standpoint, you have to make 655 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 8: sure you're able to get up and be ready as 656 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 8: ready for these teams with the losing record as you 657 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 8: are from teams with winning records. 658 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 12: So it starts today with the Cardinals. 659 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Fred, we'll talk to you later. 660 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: Man all r JP. 661 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: It's Week twelve. 662 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: The Jaguars meet the Cardinals at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. 663 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: It's a four h five Eastern kickoff time. Enjoy the game.