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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: In the case of El Salvador, absolutely absolutely we deported

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Speaker 2: gang members, gang members, including the one you had a

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Speaker 2: margarita with, and that guy is a human trafficker and

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Speaker 2: that guy is a gang banger.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think actually we were further away from a

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Speaker 3: deal because that salt cap increase I think upset a

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Speaker 3: lot of conservatives. Again, the conservatives are pushing for some

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Speaker 3: balancing spending reductions. We actually stopped negotiating just before midnight

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Speaker 3: because we actually had a deal that was then pulled

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Speaker 3: off the table. So again, this bill actually got worse overnight.

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Speaker 3: There is no way it passes today. And as I've

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Speaker 3: said all along, we may need a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: to iron everything out, but it's not going anywhere today.

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Speaker 4: The alternative is a sixty eight percent tax.

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Speaker 5: Increase, and you can blame the Democrats for that. ED

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Speaker 5: one or two ri in say this, well, this is

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Speaker 5: the biggest tax cut in the history of our country,

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Speaker 5: or you'll get a sixty eight percent tax increase.

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Speaker 6: I promise the American people that I would build a

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Speaker 6: cut an edge missile defense shield to protect our homeland

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Speaker 6: from the threat of foreign missile attack, and that's what

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Speaker 6: we're doing today.

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Speaker 7: If it's designed for the Golden Dome, we'll integrate with

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Speaker 7: our existing defense capabilities and should be fully operational before

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Speaker 7: the end of my term.

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Speaker 8: The Golden Dome will be capable of.

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Speaker 7: Intercepting missiles, even if they are launched from other sides

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Speaker 7: of the world, and even if they are launched from space.

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Speaker 2: And I have to tell you directly and personally that

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Speaker 2: I were writ voting through it.

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Speaker 8: For Secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: You, I irrespond, give me well, first of all, your

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Speaker 2: regret for voting for.

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Speaker 9: Me confirmed from doing a good job based on what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going That's a directly and statement, mister Secretary.

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Speaker 9: And I respond, mister gentleman, you me I.

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Speaker 8: Didn't ask, Senator.

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Speaker 10: Please let the Secretary.

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Speaker 1: I'd be happy to, but then I can respond to.

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Speaker 5: Just your time's up, Senator, and willfully used.

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Speaker 11: I might add, this is the long and growing list

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Speaker 11: of promises made, if promises kept. Ultimately, this right here,

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Speaker 11: the Golden Dome for America is game changer. It's a

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Speaker 11: generational investment in security of America and Americans.

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Speaker 7: I don't think Thomas Mesi understands government.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a grand standard.

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Speaker 8: Frankly, he'll probably vote we don't even dug so much.

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Speaker 12: I think he should be voted out of office.

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Speaker 7: And I just don't think he understands a government. If

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Speaker 7: you ask him a couple of questions, he never gives.

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Speaker 12: You an answer.

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Speaker 7: You just as time, and he thinks he's going to

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Speaker 7: get publicity.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually very proud of the work we've done with USAID.

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Speaker 2: For example, I don't regret cutting ten million dollars for

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Speaker 2: male circumcisions and Mozembique. I don't know how that makes

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Speaker 2: a stronger and more prosperous as a nation.

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Speaker 8: I ran over grab the Psycho social support service.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can go on. I mean, there's other things here.

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Speaker 2: We spent two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars for

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Speaker 2: Big Cat's YouTube channel from USAID. We spent fourteen million

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Speaker 2: dollars for social Codesion in Mali.

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Speaker 12: Whatever the hell that means.

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Speaker 8: So I can go on and on.

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Speaker 2: I got the list here, and there's more that I

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Speaker 2: didn't even bring the whole list.

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Speaker 13: This is what he said he was going to do

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Speaker 13: in the campaign, right, We're going to protect American people, and.

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Speaker 8: That's what he's doing. And it's a challenge. It's a

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Speaker 8: technical challenge.

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Speaker 11: We understand that, but I think American technology can get here.

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Speaker 10: It depends on how big you want to make it.

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Speaker 10: We want to strengthen medicare.

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Speaker 5: We want to strengthen medicare, waste fraud kind of news.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats will let illegals beyond, They'll destroy it.

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Speaker 8: It's not a question of all that.

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Speaker 12: Y a tremendously unified party. I don't think we've ever

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Speaker 5: There's some people that want a couple of things that

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Speaker 2: The State Department had to change. It was no longer

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Speaker 2: at the center of American foreign policy. It'd often be

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Speaker 2: replaced by the National Security Council or by some other

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Speaker 14: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot here

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is your guest

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Speaker 1: host for the day, Andrew cole Thatt. I'm the executive

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Speaker 1: producer of this fine show. Honored to be with you today.

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Speaker 1: Lots of news lots going on. We actually have Chip

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Speaker 1: Roy at about halfway through the hour, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the one big beautiful Bill. Yes, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Bitcoin dot Com Studio, the mobile studio. In

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Speaker 1: this instance, Charlie is traveling through the UK. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be back tomorrow in studio barnstorming Great Britain, going

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Speaker 1: through Cambridge and Oxford. So we are now some of

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Speaker 1: our first clips from the Cambridge debate, which was basically

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Libs versus Charlie. It was about four

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Speaker 1: so we might play some of those here in this

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Speaker 1: first segment. I want to set the stage, however, for

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Speaker 1: the news of the day. The one big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: They want to have a vote on it, maybe even tonight.

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Speaker 1: Does not look like they currently have the votes. Andy Harris,

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Speaker 1: who is the chair of the House Freedom Caucus, is

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Speaker 1: saying that the bill got worse overnight and why it's

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Speaker 1: because of the Salt editions. So unfortunately Salt has pushed

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Speaker 1: the conservatives in the hardliners budget hawks that I'm very

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Speaker 1: getting I'm getting emails. Thank god he wasn't arrested, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Trump was Trump. Charlie Kirk was not arrested in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Thank goodness. But he just debated Cambridge Oxford students and

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Speaker 1: instead of focusing on their own country, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he just sent a note to me. They're focused and

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Speaker 1: they're the decay of their own country. They're obsessed with Israel.

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Speaker 1: Israel is what everybody wants to talk about at Cambridge,

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Speaker 1: which is unfortunately very sad. There's news on the Marco

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Speaker 1: Rubia front. He just dressed down the Senate. That was fantastic,

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Speaker 1: one big beautiful bill. We've got the Golden Dome, deportation news.

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Speaker 1: All of that is still very much happening. So why

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Speaker 1: don't we start with Charlie. I'm feeling the lead to

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Speaker 1: start with Charlie. This is Charlie. I'm not exactly sure

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Speaker 1: which this is, but let's play three one one. This

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Speaker 1: is Charlie talking about how he wants to see Britain

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Speaker 1: be great again.

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Speaker 9: Three eleven for the three Conservatives that are here tonight.

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Speaker 9: I hope you guys get your mojo back. This was

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Speaker 9: once a great country. I want to see it great again.

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Speaker 9: You guys are a husk of your former self. You guys,

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Speaker 9: you can laugh and sneer all you want, but the

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Speaker 9: country that split the atom and invented the steam engine,

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Speaker 9: and eradicated slavery and brought common law to the world.

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Speaker 9: Can do a lot better than this, and you are

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Speaker 9: your existence led to our existence, and for whatever I

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Speaker 9: can do. I hope that this country finds a leader

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Speaker 9: you political advice. I hate when foreigners do that to Americans.

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Speaker 9: You guys, whatever you want, but I do have a

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Speaker 9: wish that the world feels like it's missing something. It

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Speaker 9: feels like it's missing something when Great Britain or England

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Speaker 9: I guess England, I can't fly in English, flagnaw, whatever

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Speaker 9: nonsense that is. Be proud of your heritage. You've done

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Speaker 9: good for the world. Stop apologizing, get your energy, get

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Speaker 9: your vitality, get what made England and made great Britain

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Speaker 9: such a phenomenal place. I hope you get that back,

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Speaker 9: and I hope that you reject the Swan song of

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Speaker 9: multiculturalism and get back to the fundamental true of the

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Speaker 1: Man, what a breath of fresh air. Charlie Kirk is

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Speaker 1: to the UK, Amen, get your mojo back. The country

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Speaker 1: of Churchill and Margie Thatcher. So many proud British points

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Speaker 1: Now here's another long clip. This is going to be

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Speaker 15: So you've condemned the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty

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Speaker 15: four as a huge mistake.

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Speaker 9: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Why do you.

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Speaker 15: Believe it was a mistake to pass anti discrimination legislation

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Speaker 15: and what do you think would be a better policy

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Speaker 15: for being treated fairly and equally, which you see as

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Speaker 9: Yeah, nothing against the intent, but it was too broadly

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Speaker 9: written and it played into something called disparate impact. Disparate

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Speaker 9: impact was woven within the Civil Rights Act, and disparate

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Speaker 9: impact basically says if two racial groups have different outcomes,

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Speaker 9: the answer must be racism. It does not allow any

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Speaker 9: legal nuance. So there are four components to quote unquote

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Speaker 9: the anti racist regime of America. I don't pretend to

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Speaker 9: about America. I'm sure that's fine. And it's four components.

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Speaker 9: Affirmative action, critical race theory, DEI, and disparate impact. Those

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Speaker 9: are the kind of the four components. All of them

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Speaker 9: have their subsection. The Civil Rights Act led the way

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Speaker 9: to affirmative action, which is weaponized quote unquote reverse racism

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Speaker 9: basically saying that if Black Americans are doing worse in

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Speaker 9: must be racism. And so because of that, the Civil

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Speaker 9: the color of somebody's skin, period, end of story. Instead

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Speaker 9: But that's protected speech in America. We care about what

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Speaker 1: This is cultural suicide throughout the West and we need voices,

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Speaker 1: Stand up and be strong. Stop apologizing for yourself. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with Chipry.

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Speaker 13: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 13: Terrence Bates. A marathon House Rules Committee meeting hearing on

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Speaker 13: President Trumps so called One Big Beautiful Bill is now

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Speaker 10: Hurdles before a full House vote.

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Speaker 13: On the issue of Medicaid, which has been one of

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Speaker 17: I'm thinking it's more going to be tomorrow afternoon before

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Speaker 17: we all get this tied up. This one big beautiful

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Speaker 13: That was Missouri Congressman Mark Alfred you just heard from.

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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirkshow It's bad All right, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Covid in for the one

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Speaker 1: and only Charlie Kirk. Who's headed back now, I'm told

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Speaker 1: from across the pond, so he'll be back in the

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Speaker 1: chair tomorrow with me. Right now is the great Congressman

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Speaker 1: from the great State of Texas, Representative Chip Roy. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Congressman, Thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot going on right now in

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. You guys in the middle of a very

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Speaker 1: contentious debate. Why don't you give us the latest I

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Speaker 1: saw with You know, your colleagues that are sort of

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Speaker 1: on the budget Hawk's side are saying the bill maybe

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Speaker 1: got worse overnight. Tell us give us an update of

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Speaker 1: what happened and where we stand.

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Speaker 12: Well, I wouldn't say the bill got worse.

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Speaker 18: What I would say is the prospects for the bill

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Speaker 18: got a little bit worse last night. I mean, look,

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Speaker 18: we were here all night long. I'm with the Rules Committee,

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Speaker 18: Factors still meeting. I'm looking over the screen right now,

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Speaker 18: and you know we'll continuing to try to work through

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Speaker 18: the bill. We've had multiple meetings with the Speaker, but

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Speaker 18: what happened was, look, there's a core problem.

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Speaker 12: That we have that we want to wrestle with.

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Speaker 18: We believe that the money laundering scheme that has been

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Speaker 18: built into the higher Medicaid operation is inflating the cost

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Speaker 18: the roles with able body.

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Speaker 12: And we need to change that. And we've got to

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Speaker 12: end to the scam.

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Speaker 18: Whether you've got these provider taxes that get put in

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Speaker 18: place and inflate all the prices and make it harder

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Speaker 18: for you to get health care and put vulnerable people

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Speaker 18: on weight lists, we think you've got to change that

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Speaker 18: or you can never get the cost of health care down.

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Speaker 18: So that's what we're trying to do. It's not even

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Speaker 18: but it's about changing that system so you can keep

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Speaker 18: the end that will save a lot of money over time.

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Speaker 12: But right now, our primary concern is.

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Speaker 18: That you've got that issue and you've got a lot

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Speaker 18: of front loaded deficits with backloaded savings. We're trying to

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Speaker 18: compress that with Medicaid work requirements. We've had progress with

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Speaker 18: changing some of the green new scam stuff. We've had progress,

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Speaker 18: but we need to go further, and we need to

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Speaker 18: fix this Medicaid stuff.

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Speaker 12: We're close.

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Speaker 18: The last night it kind of went off the rails.

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Speaker 18: We had an agreement with the White House. We put

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Speaker 18: Speaker's office and the leadership team here and we're not

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Speaker 18: So that's what today's about us trying to get that

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Speaker 1: Well, in congressman, what happened around midnight? You had a

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Speaker 1: deal in what respect? What did you guys come to

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Speaker 1: an agreement on? What changed? And do we believe we

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Speaker 1: can get back to an agreement?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, we had.

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Speaker 18: An agreement on a basic set of terms that frankly,

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Speaker 18: want some substance of really transformative reform so that people

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Speaker 18: out there watching this you can get cheaper healthcare, Medica

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Speaker 18: can be better. What do we think that looks like

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Speaker 18: getting rid of that ridiculous seven times federal funding for

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Speaker 18: the able body to over the volvement, right.

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Speaker 1: We should fix that.

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Speaker 18: Well, that got taken off the table. So table last

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Speaker 18: night was a small tweak.

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Speaker 12: Okay.

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Speaker 18: That means shrinking down and limiting what we call provider taxes,

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Speaker 18: which are the ways that the providers gained the system

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Speaker 18: that because it will help everybody. So we made some progress, said, okay,

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Speaker 18: we all agreed, let's drop it a little bit, and

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Speaker 18: so we did, and we had a couple of other changes,

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Speaker 18: a good deal, so we took that ford. The other

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Speaker 18: that about forty or fifty percent of the Great New

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Speaker 18: Scam subsidies continued.

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Speaker 12: So we got a little bit shrinking down of that.

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Speaker 12: That's it.

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Speaker 18: We didn't ask for a ton, but we thought it

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Speaker 18: unfortunately kind of taken off the table this morning. So

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Speaker 18: we got to get it back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Congressman, I want to go back to this five

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Speaker 1: eighteen tweet. So May eighteenth, you said, you know, and

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Speaker 1: this was the day you vote to president. It was

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Speaker 1: big news. But you got the bill through committee and

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Speaker 1: that it was a big hurdle. So you did that

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Speaker 1: in good faith. But you said, you said it fails. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the you talk about this Green new scam, it

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Speaker 1: it fails to roll back the Green new scams. Didn't

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Speaker 1: every single Republican in the House vote against the Green

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Speaker 1: new scam? Now, why would there be any tension from

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Speaker 1: the Republican caucus of the conference to not roll that

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Speaker 1: back immediately? Why are we delaying that?

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Speaker 18: Because what happens is when you create a government program,

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Speaker 18: Congress going, well, we don't want to undo that. My

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Speaker 18: view is, look, we stop these subsidies, those people will

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Speaker 18: transition to where we want them, which is to natural

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Speaker 18: of power supply, and rather than continuing to carry out

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Speaker 18: putting solar panels and wend out there which is unreliable

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Speaker 18: and heavily subsidized and can't actually make the market without

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Speaker 18: the subsidy, So we want to get the subsidies out

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Speaker 18: of the way, but people get their pet objects. The

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Speaker 18: same thing with healthcare once you start putting the programs

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Speaker 12: Our Probamacare forty.

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Speaker 18: Of the fifty states expanded, so now they have these

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Speaker 18: massive roles that are growing on Medicaid Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia,

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Speaker 18: and another six states.

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Speaker 12: We didn't expand.

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Speaker 18: So we're over here saying, hey, we're trying to save

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Speaker 18: healthcare freedom, and these other states are getting these massive

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Speaker 18: subsidies for the able body, and we're saying that ain't right.

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Speaker 18: So we want to fix that both for parity for

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Speaker 18: our states but also for the country. So that's what

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Speaker 18: happened to you people on the dole. Those roles explode.

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Speaker 18: That's the real story here with medicaid. The roles exploding

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Speaker 18: because we're doling out money. And by the way, unlike

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Speaker 18: Medicare and Social Security, there's no tax for Medicaid.

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Speaker 12: It just comes out of the general fund.

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Speaker 18: That's why medicaid went from four hundred billion to twenty

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Speaker 18: nineteen to six hundred billion this year, and it's scheduled

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Speaker 18: to be a trillion in twenty thirty. Last point, full disclosure,

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Speaker 18: my Republican colleagues. We have made progress. The bill has

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Speaker 18: moved in the we've added work requirements, but we had

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Speaker 12: They weren't good enough. We made it better. We're trying

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Speaker 18: We're almost there, but to really make this work for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Congressman, I mean I believe, I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: we've known you for a long time, even a front

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Speaker 1: of the show. You've always been very generous with your time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I genuinely believe that that the base wants

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Speaker 1: more cuts. The base wants more cuts, and it's putting

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Speaker 1: everybody in kind of an awkward position because we want

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Speaker 1: President Trump to get his bill, and we know he

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Speaker 1: wants it, but we also know that actually what you

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Speaker 1: guys are fighting for is in so many ways consistent

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Speaker 1: with the things that we've heard him say, we've we've

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Speaker 1: heard come out of this administration. Why this arbitrary deadline

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Speaker 1: of Wednesday to push this vote. We're not even gonna

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Speaker 1: have a CBO score. I'm here Andy Harris's House Freedom

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Speaker 1: Caucus chair, is saying that it's not going to pass

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Speaker 1: right now, So why push this like in this way

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Speaker 1: if we know we don't have the votes yet, but

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Speaker 1: we're close and people like you are working in good

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Speaker 1: faith to get this to a point where it needs

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's always a double edged sword here, Like you

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Speaker 18: want to use whatever you can to try to move

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Speaker 18: a bill through and get it done, get it over

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Speaker 18: the Senate because we still have to work through them,

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Speaker 18: get it back.

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Speaker 12: So I understand when the Speaker wants to move it.

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Speaker 18: But whenever you play these pressure games, these jet fumes,

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Speaker 18: holiday games, I think things get a little bit dicey

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Speaker 18: and you run the risk of them all exploding. I

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Speaker 18: think we can get the bill done, I still do,

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Speaker 18: but we've got to get some changes. So you know,

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Speaker 18: we go down to the White House, We're going to

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Speaker 18: have a good conversation, hopefully the President. With this great

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Speaker 18: team we've been working a good faith together. And by

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Speaker 18: the way, with the Speaker's team, there's no animas here.

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Speaker 18: All this is is a team that's all trying to

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Speaker 18: work to get the job done. You know, Remember there's

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Speaker 18: some great scenes where like Peyton Manning is yelling at

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Speaker 18: like Jeff Saturday on the sideline.

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Speaker 12: In a game, but they're good buddies. They get a

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Speaker 12: beer afterward.

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Speaker 18: Like, Look, we're in the heat of battle and we're

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Speaker 18: kind of yelling at each other on how to win

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Speaker 18: the game. But the president's the quarterback. We're all out

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Speaker 18: there and we're wanting to follow and go get the

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Speaker 18: job done. But we need to do it the right way.

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Speaker 18: And we have a role here in Congress to do

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Speaker 18: the same thing. So that's the goal. We hope, we'll

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Speaker 18: try to do it, but we got to get it

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Speaker 18: done the right way.

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Speaker 12: Now, just get it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Congressman, I mean to be clear, however, we do

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Speaker 1: this bill, whether you guys get your concessions or whether

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Speaker 1: the moderates get their concessions, right, this is going to

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Speaker 1: expand the deficit. Correct, Okay, Well, it depends.

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Speaker 18: On your perspective on that. I want to I'm a

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Speaker 18: just facts guy. I don't want to skew it. If

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Speaker 18: you take the CBO score and you assume the economic

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Speaker 18: growth that I think you and I and a lot

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Speaker 18: of us believe, then we assumed about two and a

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Speaker 18: half percent economic growth to create about two and a

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Speaker 18: half trillion dollars.

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Speaker 12: Of revenue over ten years.

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Speaker 18: If you assume that growth and you factor that into

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Speaker 18: the CBO score, you would assume we would actually have

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Speaker 18: deficit over ten years, would actually go down by about

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Speaker 18: one hundred or two hundred billion. It's kind of finger

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Speaker 18: in the ear bit, but it's heavily backweighted. So a

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Speaker 18: lot of deficits in the first five years. Not enough deficits,

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Speaker 18: I mean not enough, you know. I mean the savings

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Speaker 18: is all in the back years. So I'm concerned that

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Speaker 18: means we get all of the you know, desserts and

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Speaker 18: we get none of the you know, spinach. And we

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Speaker 18: need to actually get that done the right way. So

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Speaker 18: to answer your question, they're going to say a lot

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Speaker 18: of things. The Democrats, Oh my god, it's like three

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Speaker 18: trillion dollars of additional deficits. I don't think that's right.

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Speaker 18: We believe economic growth comes out of low taxes, low regulations.

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Speaker 18: I'm with the President that I'm with my Republican colleagues

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Speaker 18: on that, but I can't just assume it and then

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Speaker 18: assume that we're going to get all the savings in

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Speaker 18: year eight, when we're going to be having a four

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Speaker 18: hundred and fifty billion dollar deficit in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 18: even with dynamic growth, they assume that much deficit. I've

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Speaker 18: got a problem with that, and we're trying to squeeze

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Speaker 18: that out and get expenses down.

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Speaker 1: What about tariff income? Is that factored into the CBO

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Speaker 1: score as well?

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Speaker 18: So it's not and that's a variable that I think

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Speaker 18: is important, right, but we're not factoring that in because

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Speaker 18: you can't. Right, it's not a law that we've voted

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Speaker 18: on the present and can move those levers around, so

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Speaker 18: you can't fully count on what that would be.

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Speaker 12: For example, if he's successful.

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Speaker 18: In telling Venezuela, hey, your tariff unless you take our illegals,

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Speaker 18: you know, your illegals back, or you know, if we're

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Speaker 18: doing tariffs in China or whatever, you start making success, well,

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Speaker 18: then those those revenues aren't They're going to go down,

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Speaker 18: so we can't count on them permanently. But we know

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Speaker 18: there's revenue coming in, so in the back of our minds,

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Speaker 18: we're going, okay, that's good.

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Speaker 12: Factor that in.

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Speaker 18: That's why I can accept some amount of early deficit numbers.

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Speaker 18: If we get the growth and the trajectory in the

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Speaker 18: right direction. But that's what we're trying to work on.

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Speaker 1: What about so this salt deal, right which was worked

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Speaker 1: on overnight. They got it to forty thousand with a

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars income cap over ten over tenure,

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Speaker 1: but then it doesn't snap back apparently at the end. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: but I'm hearing that this thing is dead in the

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Speaker 1: water in the Senate. There's no blue state Republican center,

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Speaker 1: not at least not many of them.

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Speaker 18: It's so it certainly would have issues in the Senate.

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Speaker 18: I recognize and believe that. I would also note that

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Speaker 18: while the many of the President's priorities, like no tax

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Speaker 18: on tips and extensions of the expensing from the tax

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Speaker 18: cuts and jobs at end in four or five years,

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Speaker 18: these go all the way through ten years and would

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Speaker 18: score at three hundred and.

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Speaker 12: Fifty billion dollars.

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Speaker 18: I don't think that was the right deal to cut

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Speaker 18: yesterday by the speaker.

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Speaker 12: I think that was a mistake. The President yesterday morning.

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Speaker 18: Came down and me and said the Republicans, look, you

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Speaker 18: Freedom Caracass guys, you got to help me out here.

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Speaker 18: Let's focus on WAYT Shroud and abuse on medican You

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Speaker 18: can't go the whole hog. And he said to the

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Speaker 18: salt guys, hey, you're not going to get you know,

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Speaker 18: more salt. Keep it where it is. Well, then we

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Speaker 18: get a deal cut with the salt guys. And I'm going, hey,

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Speaker 18: wait a minute, we're over here. We want to try

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Speaker 18: to get this done for the good of the country.

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Speaker 18: I'm not looking for, you know, a parochial tax benefit.

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Speaker 18: And by the way, as a Texan, there'll be some

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Speaker 18: of my constituents who would benefit from their salt deal.

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Speaker 12: I just don't think it's a good deal.

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Speaker 18: If our taxes are too I in Texas, we should

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Speaker 18: go down to Austin and say, hey, guys, cut the taxes.

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Speaker 18: Don't ask for the Feds to subsidize. So we got

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Speaker 18: some work to do. Hopefully we get this medicaid stuff

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Speaker 18: done today and land the plane.

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Speaker 12: But it does need to.

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Speaker 1: Change now Medicaid to me, I mean, people don't realize

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Speaker 1: Medicaid is the fastest growing portion of the federal budget

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Speaker 1: and we are actively incentivizing really good states like Texas, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: Florida because we're making the math. Not makes sense for

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Speaker 1: them to keep being disciplined so we're going to incentivize

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Speaker 1: them to grow the roles further. Once they come on,

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Speaker 1: as you made a point, Chip, they're going to stay on.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be harder to get them off. Chip.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for fighting for bounced budgets. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 14: The vanguard of the next great American generation.

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Speaker 1: Your host, Charlie Kirk. All right, welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Covet in for the one and

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Speaker 1: only Charlie Kirk. There's an incredible moment happening right now,

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Speaker 1: and said White House, I have the team pulling the clip.

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Speaker 1: So he President Trump has the President of South Africa

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Speaker 1: in the oval and obviously there is a lot of controversy,

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Speaker 1: I think wrongly placed controversy over the africaners being granted

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Speaker 1: asylum in the United States. People don't like it because

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Speaker 1: they're white. Let's just be honest what it is. So

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Speaker 1: President Trump just dimmed the lights in the oval office

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Speaker 1: played this clip for the President of South Africa, brutal

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Speaker 1: videos of South Africa's leaders calling for the killing of

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Speaker 1: white South African farmers. He shows the burial sites of

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Speaker 1: the farmers at some point there must be killing you

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Speaker 1: can hear and say in the video. And he literally

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Speaker 1: dimmed the light and made this man watch the videos

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Speaker 1: with his eyes. So we are having a kind of

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Speaker 1: a Zelenski two point zero moment happening within the White

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Speaker 1: House right now. It's pretty remarkable. Gonna get the clip.

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Speaker 1: We'll play it back so you guys can all hear

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Speaker 1: it for yourself. I mean, but what a powerful moment

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Speaker 1: this is. This is something else. So we do have

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Speaker 1: some b roll of it. But I mean, he did

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Speaker 1: it to his face. Zelenski two point zero to his face.

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Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get with President Trump

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Speaker 1: in an oval office meeting with another head of state.

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Speaker 1: We've just simply never ever seen anything like this. But yes,

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Speaker 1: white South Africans, there's the clip right there. White South

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Speaker 1: Africans are getting targeted. Their political leaders are chanting about

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Speaker 1: killing them. They are being murdered. There's been scores of

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Speaker 1: them murdered and targeted. And President Trump is putting a absolute

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Speaker 1: spotlight with moral clarity on the plight of white South

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Speaker 1: African farmers being targeted because they It has been the balkanization,

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Speaker 1: the tribalization of this far left ideology, this race hatred

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Speaker 1: that has been allowed to just fest and grow in

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Speaker 1: South Africa. Good for President Trump to shine a light

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Speaker 1: on it like no one else could. We'll be right back,

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Speaker 1: all right. Welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. Your

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Speaker 1: guest host for today, Andrew Colvett. This is the Bitcoin

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Speaker 1: dot Com mobile studio. I'm gonna tell you about I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you about TikTok. I'm gonna tell you about TikTok.

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Speaker 1: What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life saving

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Speaker 1: medical innovator in Tennessee have in common. They're all small

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Speaker 1: business owners and they are thriving on TikTok. Guess who

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Speaker 1: else is thriving on TikTok. The Charlie Kirk Show is

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Speaker 1: thriving on TikTok. Charlie Kirk's debates turning point us say

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Speaker 1: they're all thriving on TikTok. Across the US, over seven

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Speaker 1: point five million businesses, from family owned shops to entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: are using TikTok to compete and grow. In fact, seventy

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Speaker 1: four percent of businesses on TikTok, say that TikTok has

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Speaker 1: allowed them to scale, get bigger, make more money, increase sales,

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Speaker 1: and expand to new locations. That growth means jobs. They're

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Speaker 1: over seven point five million US businesses employing more than

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Speaker 1: twenty eight million people because of TikTok. Small businesses thrive

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Speaker 1: on TikTok. And so do we at this show? Turning

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Speaker 1: Point USA. Portions of The Charlie Kirk Show are brought

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Speaker 1: to in part by TikTok. So do we have this clip?

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Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're almost got this clip.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well so we've got it. So President Trump

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Speaker 1: is sitting in the Oval Office with the leader of

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Speaker 1: South Africa, the President of South Africa, Cyril. I'll get

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Speaker 1: his name in just a second. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: confusing one. Rama Fosa, Cyril rama Fosa. And he's sitting

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Speaker 1: in the White House with him, and he dims the

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Speaker 1: lights and he forces him to watch videos of South

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Speaker 1: African political leaders calling for the death of whites right

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Speaker 1: to his face. Three twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Turn the lights down, turn the lights down, and just

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Speaker 5: put this on this right behind you.

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Speaker 19: Johann's we thought you people not wand with He said,

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Speaker 19: from you from to bless them from now.

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Speaker 1: This is very bad.

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Speaker 4: These are the These are burial sides right here, burial

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Speaker 4: sites over a thousand of white farmers.

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Speaker 12: And those cars.

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Speaker 5: Are lined up to pay love.

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Speaker 10: On a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 5: Each one of those white things you see is across, and.

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Speaker 4: There's approximately a thousand of them.

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Speaker 12: They're all white farmers.

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Speaker 1: God bless President Trump. He President Trump, I want you

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Speaker 1: guys to appreciate what you just heard or saw is

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Speaker 1: a truly historic moment. It is history unfolding before your eyes.

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Speaker 1: No other US president would have ever pulled anything like that,

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Speaker 1: and God bless him for it. It's the contrast to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Could not be more stark, to feeble, decrepit, wandering, rudderless

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, whose morality had been so twisted up because

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Speaker 1: of all of his far left staffers and all of

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Speaker 1: the constituencies and coalition members that he had to cater to.

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Speaker 1: There was no moral clarity. And now we have moral clarity.

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Speaker 1: In another way of saying it, President Trump is actually

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Speaker 1: the leader of the free world. Not only is this

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Speaker 1: he the center of the political university, he is actually

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Speaker 1: the leader of the free world, which this goes back

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Speaker 1: to what we talked about with Charlie being in the UK.

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Speaker 1: We are calling the West back to itself. We are

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Speaker 1: calling all of the West back to itself, to return

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Speaker 1: to its former glory. And South Africa needs to live

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Speaker 1: up to its own morality. Here Nelson Mandela. Love him

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Speaker 1: or hate him, most people seem to love him. He

877
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Speaker 1: fought for a more race less, colorblind less South Africa

878
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Speaker 1: where everybody was free, that has been twisted and contorted

879
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Speaker 1: and bastardized by the new political movements that want to

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Speaker 1: take back land from white South Africans that want to

881
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Speaker 1: harm and hurt them. President Trump is shoving the truth

882
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Speaker 1: right into Cyril's face, the president of South Africa and JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance going to Munich and calling Europe back to its

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Speaker 1: liberal values, the liberal values that we share in America.

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Speaker 1: Free speech, of equal application of the law, of color

886
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Speaker 1: blind meritocracy. Trump bringing the receipts to the White House.

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Speaker 1: Never sleep on President Trump when he's got another foreign

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Speaker 1: leader at the White House. What a historic moment. This

889
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Speaker 1: could be part of the spark to reignite Western civilization,

890
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Speaker 1: a Western civilization renaissance, to remember who we are to

891
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Speaker 1: remember our greatness and to never apologize for that greatness,

892
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Speaker 1: but instead boldly grow it, go forth and make our

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Speaker 1: countries wonderful, great, free, prosperous, and rich again. Nobody should

894
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Speaker 1: be able to take that away from us. It's our history.

895
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Speaker 1: We should own it. Charlie Kirk has an interview next hour.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 13: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break, and

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Speaker 13: I'm Terrence Batesers have put the twenty twenty four tax

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Speaker 13: season behind them, but unfortunately there's still so many more

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Speaker 13: who owe the irs and are still trying to work

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Speaker 13: out issues with that agency. And that's where the folks

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Speaker 13: at tax Network USA come in. They might be able

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Speaker 13: to help you. Cameron Kinsey from Tax Network USA joins

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Speaker 13: me now to talk about some of the services they offer.

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Speaker 10: Cameron, always get to see you.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you, Terrence. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 10: Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 13: So what are the sorts of issues of concerns that

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Speaker 13: clients are bringing to your attention now that tax day

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Speaker 13: is over?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, now that tax Day is over, we've actually received

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Speaker 20: an influx of call. We've had people on the phones

913
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Speaker 20: really just not knowing where to start. They've pushed this

914
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Speaker 20: off until they can no longer ignore it.

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Speaker 1: They've gotten the letters.

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Speaker 12: In the mail.

917
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Speaker 20: They're not even sure where to start when it comes

918
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Speaker 20: to filing.

919
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Speaker 1: That's really where we come in and act as a resource.

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Speaker 20: See whether you need audit defense or simply just need

921
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Speaker 20: help filing your taxes and don't know where to start.

922
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Speaker 20: We have a team of professionals at Tax Network USA.

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Speaker 20: We have CPAs, we have license that turns who know

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Speaker 20: the tax code inside and out. We have former IRS

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Speaker 20: agents who know how they target individuals, and so we

926
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Speaker 20: have a robust team that's willing to help you, and

927
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Speaker 20: we review your case extensively and act with the IRS

928
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Speaker 20: so you're not having to call them, You're not having

929
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Speaker 20: to spend hours on the phone when you want to

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Speaker 20: be with your friends or your family, your loved ones.

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Speaker 13: Describe your typical client at this point, again, April fifteenth

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Speaker 13: is passed, and so now it's a lot more probably

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Speaker 13: reactionrey as opposed to proactive. What does your typical kind

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Speaker 13: of client look like? What's that circumstance these days?

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Speaker 20: You know, we don't actually have just one particular client.

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Speaker 20: We work with a wide variety of clients like W

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Speaker 20: two employees, retirees, small businesses, big business business, six to

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Speaker 20: seven figure owners who suddenly find themselves in hot water

939
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Speaker 20: with the IRS. We represent small business owners, independent contractors,

940
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Speaker 20: large companies that may struggle with payroll tax issues. So

941
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Speaker 20: if the IRS comes knocking, we've seen everything and we

942
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Speaker 20: can help you.

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Speaker 10: And talk about small businesses.

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Speaker 13: I heard you mentioned small businesses, and the reality is

945
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Speaker 13: that many people, many small businesses in particular, don't want

946
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Speaker 13: to necessarily have to deal with the IRS because they're

947
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Speaker 13: probably already robbing Peter to pay Paul in order to

948
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Speaker 13: keep the business open, and so the IRS is just

949
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Speaker 13: an added headache.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, we have a extensive variety of options for small

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Speaker 20: business owners. We can help reduce or even eliminate penalties

953
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Speaker 20: if they're facing them. We've negotiated favorable payment plans for

954
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Speaker 20: small business owners as well, and even in some cases

955
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Speaker 20: help them settle for far less than what they actually

956
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Speaker 20: owed the IRS. But I will say after this tax season,

957
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Speaker 20: we have seen the longer that people wait, the fewer

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Speaker 20: options that they may have, those penalties do stack up

959
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Speaker 20: as well. So the deadline may have passed, but acting

960
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Speaker 20: now really just gives us more leverage to protect your

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Speaker 20: business in your livelihood.

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Speaker 10: Well to your.

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Speaker 13: Point about how critical it is to act, now, how

964
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Speaker 13: long does the process typically take from initial consultation to

965
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Speaker 13: a natural resolution of whatever the issue may be.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so that's a great question. If you go online

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Speaker 20: to our website, you're able to fill out a form

968
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Speaker 20: it's completely free, or if you call our number you'll

969
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Speaker 20: be connected to one of our representatives. But it really

970
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Speaker 20: just depends on the complexity of your case. You have

971
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Speaker 20: a free consultation. If you want to move forward, that

972
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Speaker 20: is great. We will file and get all the necessary

973
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Speaker 20: documentation that we need in order to help build your

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Speaker 20: case against the IRS. If you don't want to proceed

975
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Speaker 20: with us, that is no pressure at all. But it

976
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Speaker 20: really just depends on what you're looking for and what

977
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Speaker 20: help that you actually need. If it's audit representation, if

978
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Speaker 20: it's just negotiating offers and compromise or payment plans, installment agreements,

979
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Speaker 20: anything like that can take.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks to a couple months.

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Speaker 9: Really just depends on your case.

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Speaker 13: But the consultation being free is key. At least you

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Speaker 13: get some information to start with.

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Speaker 20: Yes, absolutely, we do for all the necessary documentation like

985
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Speaker 20: your W two, all your financial records, bank statements, simple

986
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Speaker 20: things like that, just to start building your case, get

987
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Speaker 20: to know you a little bit better in what you're

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Speaker 20: dealing with, and then we go from there.

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Speaker 13: Always good to see you. We appreciate your time and

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Speaker 13: thanks so much for the information. Again, folks, look at

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Speaker 13: the bottom of your screen TNUSA dot com slash rav

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Speaker 13: You can log on there get all the information you

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Speaker 13: need at least start the process. Get your free consultation

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Speaker 13: from Tax Network USA. Well that's going to do it

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Speaker 13: for this Real America's Voice news break. As always, we

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Speaker 13: appreciate having you along for the ride. We're going to

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Speaker 13: take a quick break and then get you back to

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Speaker 13: your regularly scheduled programming.

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Speaker 9: Okay, everybody, I'm back in the mobile Bitcoin dot Com studio.

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Speaker 9: I'm grateful to producer Andrew for filling our one. I

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Speaker 9: have another amazing interview for you guys with Barackluri, author

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Speaker 9: of his great book Atheism Kills. You can watch this

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Speaker 9: But if you're just listening on radio or watching on

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Speaker 9: Real America's Voice, enjoy this interview. Okay, everybody, very special

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Speaker 9: guests here today about a topic near and dear to

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Speaker 9: my heart and to all of you, but aeism. Atheism

1010
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Speaker 9: I think is dying in the West. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 9: Joining us now as a friend of mine, Barack Luri, Barack.

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Speaker 9: Great to see you.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 9: Not to be confused with Barack Obama. I'm sure you

1015
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Speaker 9: get that a lot all the time, and you do

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Speaker 9: not like it. I'm sure you don't know. You're much

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Speaker 9: wiser and you believe in God. I don't know if

1018
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Speaker 9: Brock Obama or not. But okay, so you're the author

1019
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Speaker 9: of a very interesting and important series of books.

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Speaker 8: Tell us about it. Yeah, it's called the Atheism Kills Series.

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Speaker 8: There are three volumes. The first one came out in

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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen called The atheistm Kills. The next one was

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Speaker 8: in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, Atheism Destroys, and the last

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Speaker 8: one that is about to be wrapped up, Atheism Steals.

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Speaker 8: And what I do there is I try to show

1026
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Speaker 8: the dangers and the consequences of a world without God,

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Speaker 8: and it's not very pretty. It's going to be a

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Speaker 8: terrifying world if we were to actually adopt atheism as

1029
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Speaker 8: a governing structure. And it's not hypothetical for me to

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Speaker 8: say that we have ample examples of that, both in

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Speaker 8: the world of fascism and in communism. They were so overwhelming,

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Speaker 8: The evidence was so overwhelming that this is what happens

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Speaker 8: when you operate a government without God. It's a little

1034
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Speaker 8: bit like that egg old egg commercial. I don't know

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Speaker 8: if you remember it, Charlie, but these eggs in a skillet,

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Speaker 8: and this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Well,

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Speaker 8: this is your this is your world on atheism. It's

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Speaker 8: not a pretty one. I show in these books that

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Speaker 8: atheism kills on an epic level beyond belief. Hundreds of

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Speaker 8: millions of people have died in the twentieth century and

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Speaker 8: are continuing to do so. That has been evidenced by

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Speaker 8: Hitler's reign and fascism. Generally speaking. Hitler was not a Christian,

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Speaker 8: by the way, and I do want.

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Speaker 9: To bid into that later. Yeah, that's one that I

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Speaker 9: get sure quite often.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's an easy response. Communism, of course, was by

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Speaker 8: definition atheist. You have to be an atheist in order

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Speaker 8: to actually adopt communism. It was the engine of communism.

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Speaker 8: Alexander Soljanetian, the great Soviet dissonent, said that atheism was

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Speaker 8: the central pivot of communism. It could not exist without atheism. Naturally,

1051
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Speaker 8: they wanted to get rid of religion altogether, because religion

1052
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Speaker 8: was the ultimate three to the government. That they wanted

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Speaker 8: you to completely be subservient to the government systems. And

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Speaker 8: therefore what you have to do is just abandon religion altogether.

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Speaker 8: And that's what they largely successfully did in the Soviet

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Speaker 8: Union and to some extent in China. But these are

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Speaker 8: really horrific regions, and we need to understand that aside

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Speaker 8: from that which is bad enough, it also destroys everything

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Speaker 8: else that we value, things like truth and logic and science,

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Speaker 8: the concept of family, the concept of relationships, the concept

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Speaker 8: of free speech, for example. All these things derive because

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Speaker 8: of our belief in God and our values in that.

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Speaker 8: Even our sense of beauty, our sense of storytelling, of

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Speaker 8: music and art. None of these things would exist without God.

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Speaker 8: And one of the things that I always love to

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Speaker 8: ask people to do is to simply ask this question

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Speaker 8: why are things the way they are? Why do we

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Speaker 8: love music? And if I were to ask you to

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Speaker 8: our what music you like, I'm going to get an

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Speaker 8: answer classical. Yeah, you might like classical, somebody might like

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Speaker 8: hip hop, somebody like rock and roll. Likewise, if I

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Speaker 8: were to turn to you and I said, you know, Charlie,

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Speaker 8: I got a great story for you, you lean forward

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Speaker 8: and you say uh huh. You won't respond by saying, oh, thanks, Brock.

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Speaker 8: But I'm not a story kind of guy, right, But

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Speaker 8: that only exists among humans. We don't see that in

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Speaker 8: animals whatsoever. There is no music in the animal kingdom,

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Speaker 8: no storytelling, no sense of the past or the future,

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Speaker 8: no sense of ancestry or to send this, no sense

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Speaker 8: of obligation. And these are questions worth asking? Why do

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Speaker 8: we have them?

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Speaker 12: So?

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Speaker 1: I love all this.

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Speaker 9: By the way, as you know, this is partially my

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Speaker 9: life's work too, inspired by our mutual friend Dennis Praeger,

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Speaker 9: which is arguing for the necessity of God, not just

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Speaker 9: the existence of God, which I want to build out.

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Speaker 9: But let's take a step back. What about you? What

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Speaker 9: got you into this line of work? And I have

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 9: a more technical question, So who are you? And why

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Speaker 9: are you interested in atheism and its consequences so much?

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Speaker 8: Well, in many ways, I'm fighting myself. When I was

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00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 8: much younger, I was an atheist. I decided when I

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 8: was eleven years old, I was an atheist. And I

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 8: decided I must be brilliant because of that, because I

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 8: figured it out and nobody else could. Then I went

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Speaker 8: to college, and I went to Stanford, and I decided

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Speaker 8: to write my thesis on proving that religion has caused

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Speaker 8: more wars and destruction than anything else. And I set

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Speaker 8: about to just go ahead numerically to prove my point.

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Speaker 8: But as I went about this, Charlie, I discovered I

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Speaker 8: was wrong, like dead wrong, and I was embarrassed, and

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 8: I decided that my thesis would be entirely the opposite,

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Speaker 8: proving how indeed atheism was the center of all destruction

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Speaker 8: and killing in Mayhem.

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Speaker 9: And what really changed your mind?

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Speaker 8: Reading The Brothers Karamazov by Dusty As Yeah, Yeah, what

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 8: about that? He showed me that I was shallow in

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Speaker 8: my thinking as an eightth that really there is no

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Speaker 8: free will, There is no sense of consciousness without God.

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Speaker 8: And I believe in free.

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Speaker 9: Will, but I'm told nothing good ever comes out of Russia,

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00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 9: a terrible place. I'm told that it's just a gas

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Speaker 9: station of nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 8: Right there, you go.

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Speaker 9: I'm kidding a new heart. Russian literature can be very

1117
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 9: amazing but very telling.

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Speaker 8: It's dark, and I always say that, you Knowstevskt is

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00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 8: fantastic because you know, people think that he's very brooding

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Speaker 8: and dark.

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Speaker 9: And I haven't spent much time with him. I know

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Speaker 9: the concepts obviously, but.

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Speaker 8: He's actually it's very uplifting. These books. Surprising this so

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Speaker 8: Crime Punishment, fantastic book, very uplifting in the end. Same

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Speaker 8: with the Karamazov But I've read these books and I

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Speaker 8: and I decided that I was really a believer. But

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Speaker 8: here was the problem I had. You know, in college

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Speaker 8: you end up kind of milling about with a lot

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Speaker 8: of philosophical issues. You meet some religious people. Not I

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Speaker 8: knew some these four guys who were evangelical Christians, and

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Speaker 8: we'd always banter about the existence of God. And I

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00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 8: said there was no God, and they said there was

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Speaker 8: and such, but we were very respectful each other. I have

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Speaker 8: to pat myself on the back about that. And then

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Speaker 8: when I discovered that there was a God, and I

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Speaker 8: remember going I decided that I was going to go

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Speaker 8: to tell them that I believed in God. And as

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Speaker 8: I did so, my legs felt very heavy. I couldn't walk.

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Speaker 8: It was the weirdest thing. I didn't know why this

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Speaker 8: was happening to me, but I figured out the reason why.

1141
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 8: I realized that things were about to change. This is

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Speaker 8: changing your belief to understand that there's a God, a creator,

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00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 8: somebody who loves you, and something that you are responsible for.

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Speaker 8: It changes your entire sense of obligation. Everything changes about you. Yeah,

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00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 8: and so this is not like I decided I'm going

1146
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 8: to change my football loyalty to the Patriots versus the stealers. Right,

1147
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 8: It's not like that. This is a world change. Everything

1148
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 8: had to change, and that's why they felt so heavy. Then, I,

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Speaker 8: like I said, I've been fighting myself. These books that

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Speaker 8: I write is more of a way to be able

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Speaker 8: to convince myself I'm the best fighter for atheism. Oddly enough,

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Speaker 8: I always say I can out atheist any atheist. I've

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Speaker 8: got all the arguments down. I sometimes improve people's atheist

1154
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Speaker 8: arguments and then I shoot it down.

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Speaker 9: You have to help me. Yeah, I encountered all the

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Speaker 9: time on the camphasis.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I encourage people to really ask themselves why

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Speaker 8: there is a God? Seek out God. It's wonderful to

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Speaker 8: believe in God, it really is, But to find him

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Speaker 8: that's another story.

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Speaker 9: Would you call yourself a Christian?

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Speaker 8: I know I'm Jewish, okay, yeah, but I deeply, deeply appreciate.

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Speaker 9: I mean a Christianity. Likewise, I just I wanted to

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Speaker 9: would you say that you came in contact with God

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Speaker 9: or the idea of God or the concept because coming

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Speaker 9: into a relationship with God is usually Christian language. That's

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Speaker 9: that's why I, oh.

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Speaker 8: I see no Judaism. We have a relationship with God, absolutely,

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Speaker 8: It's Rabbis will often ask you, what's your relationship, how

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Speaker 8: is your relationship with God? Tell me about that depth

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Speaker 8: or of the relationship, and it's it's no different. In Christianity.

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Speaker 8: We're very solid. So I came to that realization. So

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Speaker 8: I started off first, you know, understand that there must

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Speaker 8: be a creator, and I recommend this if you want

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Speaker 8: to convince your non believing friends. Take it methodically. Start

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Speaker 8: off with is there a creator? Forget about the God

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Speaker 8: of the Old Testament, God of the New Testament, the

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Speaker 8: laws yeahlyvitical laws and forget about all that believe it

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Speaker 8: aside is there a creator with a capital C? And

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Speaker 8: you'll ultimately have to come to the conclusion that, of

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Speaker 8: course there is. It's it's obvious. The math demands that

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Speaker 8: the probabilities demand it.

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Speaker 9: know your reaction to this conversation.

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Speaker 8: It's frankly, it's silly not to believe blames the creator. Okay,

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Speaker 8: so there's three different things that I love to talk about.

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Speaker 8: The chances of the universe coming into fruition by itself randomly,

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Speaker 8: that is, and that is something on the order of

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Speaker 8: one out of ten to the sixty fourth or twenty.

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Speaker 8: It's obscene that I can't imagine the amount of zeros

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Speaker 8: that are involved. Likewise, then that the Earth would be formed,

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Speaker 8: the universe would form in the way it has formed,

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Speaker 8: meaning with the gashes and slidifying of the planets and

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Speaker 8: the orbits around them. That it doesn't have to be.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it could have been that this universe would

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Speaker 8: be entirely gas and nothing more. But instead we have

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Speaker 8: the laws of physics and the laws of chemistry and

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Speaker 8: so on. So these are things that again the probabilities

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Speaker 8: of that would be absurd, And now you have to

1242
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Speaker 8: multiply those two fractions in order to make it together.

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 8: So the chances of the universe beginning in the first

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Speaker 8: place and creating the universe as it did, then you

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Speaker 8: have to go There are many other steps in between,

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Speaker 8: But the next one I like to talk about is

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Speaker 8: the chances of life forming by itself randomly, And that

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Speaker 8: indeed also is one out of ten to the one

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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty fifth.

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Speaker 9: I think it was some obscene number.

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Speaker 8: And again you have to multiply that new fraction to

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Speaker 8: the previous.

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Speaker 9: The probability would be if you stuck, if you stacked

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Speaker 9: nickels all across the United States, Yeah, from here to

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Speaker 9: the moon, times a thousand and one of them was

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Speaker 9: a red scent. Were blindfolded, could you find that one

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Speaker 9: red sea. That's the likelihood of just life, right, just

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Speaker 9: like the fine tuning of the universe itself. So you

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 9: say fine tuning of universe, fine tuning of Earth, fine

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Speaker 9: tuning of life. So there's three gradations of improbability.

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Speaker 8: Right? Is that feel exactly?

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Speaker 9: And then you get to a place where you need

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Speaker 9: a quantum computer for the number.

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Speaker 8: Right, exactly right, it is a big, big number. And

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Speaker 8: not only that, but you have to then go into

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Speaker 8: the question of evolution, right, that that somehow we could

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Speaker 8: explain the intelligence in life, yes, and the kind of

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Speaker 8: intelligent life we have today, that it evolved to this point.

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Speaker 8: That's another absurd fraction. So at some point you have

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Speaker 8: to say this is silly. It's a you know, the

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Speaker 8: old watch on the beach analogy, which is a very

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Speaker 8: apt analogy. It's very fair. You have to assume that

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Speaker 8: there's a creator, somebody who left that watch on the beach,

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Speaker 8: somebody who created that watch and so on, and you're

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Speaker 8: not just seeing something that was created there by the

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Speaker 8: waves and the sand.

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Speaker 9: Do you do this is not the worth our time

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Speaker 9: to do more than twenty seconds. Do you believe in

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Speaker 9: evolution or do you believe in creation of man?

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Speaker 8: I believe in creation of me.

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Speaker 9: I do too, And that's we'll have you on for

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Speaker 9: a different time because I think that Look, I'm not

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Speaker 9: even saying if you believe in evolution, you're necessarily a

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Speaker 9: bad person. I just personally have the belief of creation.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, people try to shoehorn evolution in many ways. They

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Speaker 8: want to have it both ways. They want to say, well,

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Speaker 8: I believe in evolution, but it's directed by God. I

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Speaker 8: have a tough time with that, and it could be

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Speaker 8: right again. I don't anyway that. I'm just curious kind

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Speaker 8: of where you're coming coming from. And so the math

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Speaker 8: is insurmountable and improbable. Right, what would you have to say.

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Speaker 9: Then when a non believer I'm going to put a

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Speaker 9: pin in that word atheist because I want to get

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Speaker 9: back to that in a second, says that there's multiverses.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well, the multiverse argument is a manufactured argument design

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Speaker 8: only because they understand the fine tuning difficulties.

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Speaker 9: They say, the heart true atheist. No, that is the

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Speaker 9: hardest argument.

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Speaker 8: That is the hardest argument. And so here they say, well,

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Speaker 8: there are a bunch of other universes.

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Speaker 9: Correct, which is which is a profession of faith.

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Speaker 8: There is no evidence of zero evidence, and there might

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Speaker 8: be an infinity number of universes, don't you know, Charlie.

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Speaker 8: So therefore there is a greater chance. Therefore that intelligent

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Speaker 8: life and the way the universe was formed in our

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Speaker 8: universe is that would happen in this universe. But that

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Speaker 8: is side stepping the issue. That is that is a

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Speaker 8: false argument. It's a it's a cowardly argument. It does

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Speaker 8: not reason whatsoever using reason itself. Which is interesting because

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Speaker 8: one of the things that you learn from I think

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Speaker 8: you mentioned Frank Turk before. He's a great, a great

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Speaker 8: argument and he he makes the argument and you know,

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Speaker 8: the classical argument that there's a difference between materialism and immaterialism.

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Speaker 8: Materialism is what I used to believe in as an atheist,

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Speaker 8: and most atheists have to believe this, that there's only

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Speaker 8: what we know by seeing, touching, hearing, feeling, tasting, and

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Speaker 8: so on. Uh, that is it. And if you can't

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Speaker 8: do that, well then it doesn't exist. But they themselves

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Speaker 8: live in a world where they deal with the immaterial

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Speaker 8: all the time, like how do you how do you

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Speaker 8: smell logic? How do you taste? Science?

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Speaker 9: So true?

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Speaker 8: Right? How do you feel music? There's a whole.

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Speaker 9: Bunch of different only feel to effects.

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Speaker 8: Right, it's effects, we know it's there. And yet they

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Speaker 8: they accept themselves philosophy, right, I mean, how do you

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Speaker 8: how do you love it?

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Speaker 9: With that?

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Speaker 8: So and even the concept that when many atheists will

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Speaker 8: say there's no free will, they in fact they have

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Speaker 8: to say if they're an intelligent atheist like you mentioned,

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Speaker 8: an intelligent and honest atheist has to say that there

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Speaker 8: is no free why because free will can only be

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Speaker 8: given to you by a creator. It cannot evolve by yourself.

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Speaker 8: It's it's free for me. It's also like anything else,

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Speaker 8: you cannot if you don't believe in the idea of

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Speaker 8: evolution coming by itself, you can't have.

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Speaker 13: Feel Welcome back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak.

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Speaker 10: I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 13: A marathon House Rules Committee meeting hearing on President Trump

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Speaker 13: so called One Big Beautiful Bill is now in its

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Speaker 13: twelfth hour. Part of the reason this process has been

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Speaker 13: going on so long is that hundreds of proposed amendments

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Speaker 13: have been added to the debate since it started just

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Speaker 13: after one o'clock this morning. Despite President Trump making his

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Speaker 13: way to Capitol Hill on Tuesday in order to encourage

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Speaker 13: Congressional Republicans to get it done, so far, the bill

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Speaker 13: is still making its way over. One of the final

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Speaker 13: hurdles before a full House vote on the issue of Medicaid,

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Speaker 13: which has been one of the stumbling blocks so far.

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Speaker 13: President Trump says his priority is eliminating fraud.

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Speaker 10: Waste, and abuse.

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Speaker 13: House Speaker Mike Johnson says he wants this done by

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Speaker 13: Memorial Day, meaning once the measure gets out of the

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Speaker 13: Rules Committee, a full House vote will have to happen

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Speaker 13: almost immediately.

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Speaker 17: I'm thinking it's more going to be tomorrow afternoon before

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Speaker 17: we all get this tied up. This one big beautiful

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Speaker 17: on for the American people.

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Speaker 13: That was Missouri Congressman Mark Alfred you just heard from.

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Speaker 13: If and when the One Big Beautiful Bill Act as

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Speaker 13: more changes are expected.

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Speaker 8: That's right, that's right. It's tough enough to to somehow

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Speaker 8: for an atheist to explain how life was triggered by itself,

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Speaker 8: but then to also say that there's free will in

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Speaker 8: that process, through evolution or otherwise, it's impossible.

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Speaker 9: Would you agree free will is fundamental to Judaism? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 9: I agree. I think that's right. And I would say

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Speaker 9: Christianity as well, and I know Christians I don't believe

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Speaker 9: in free will, but that's that's not the base of

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Speaker 9: the sty.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't understand that. If there's no free will,

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Speaker 8: then you know, I always say, if somebody's going to

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Speaker 8: argue that with me, well, if I if I'm punching

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Speaker 8: the face right now, are you going to get upset?

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Speaker 8: And they'll say, of course, I am, well why would you?

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Speaker 8: I couldn't help myself. So we inherently recognize free will

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Speaker 8: and once and that was the thing that opened the

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Speaker 8: door to God for me in the first place. Once

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Speaker 8: I realized that there was such a thing as free will,

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Speaker 8: I knew.

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Speaker 9: That I was How did they do that conclusion? I

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Speaker 9: sensed it?

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Speaker 8: I know that I free will?

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Speaker 9: Was it a faith claim? Because some people say free

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Speaker 9: will is a faith meaning you must you can't prove it,

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Speaker 9: but you must believe you have it.

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Speaker 8: I think that's fair to say. I don't think I

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Speaker 8: think that not only do I my own agent, but

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Speaker 8: I'm also accountable for my actions. If you don't believe

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Speaker 8: in free will, then you don't believe you have the agency,

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Speaker 8: and therefore that you don't have accountability for your actions.

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Speaker 8: And that's what's so tempting, Charlie about atheism is that

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Speaker 8: that's its major gift to the atheist is that you

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Speaker 8: don't have to be accountable. Right, It's an addiction. I say,

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Speaker 8: non accountability is the greatest addiction that there is. All

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Speaker 8: other addictions flow from that. So the temptation to say

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Speaker 8: it's simply dismiss anything any responsibility. So if you are

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Speaker 8: an atheist, then I always ask, why don't you just

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Speaker 8: sex it up, booze it up, gamble as much as

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Speaker 8: want lie in, cheat and steel. Yeah, Well, those who

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Speaker 8: do are generally speaking atheists, is what I found. I've

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Speaker 8: done a lot of research on this because I'm really

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Speaker 8: fascinated by it, and a lot of these are correlations,

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Speaker 8: but the correlations are very strong. The chances of you

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Speaker 8: being an atheist if you are somebody who routinely commits adultery,

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Speaker 8: routinely steals, routinely cheats on a test. You are very

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Speaker 8: highly likely to be an atheist. If you are a

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Speaker 8: serial murderer, if you engage in mass killings, if you

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Speaker 8: are a member of the drug carteales, the sex cartels,

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Speaker 8: or the mafia, you are certainly an atheist. You do

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Speaker 8: not have God in your life. You may not call

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Speaker 8: yourself an atheist, but you.

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Speaker 9: Definitely might even use Christian symbols.

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Speaker 8: Well, like like in the Well The Godfather, for example,

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Speaker 8: which i is one of my favorite movies.

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Speaker 9: I think it's one of your Yeah, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 8: It's a beautiful movie. It's a fantastic story, but it

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Speaker 8: does a little bit of a disservice to Christianity because

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Speaker 8: that's not what Yeah, I think, I think you're right.

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Speaker 9: Look me, do you differentiate between agnostic atheists and secularism

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Speaker 9: or those three things all sent them in your review?

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Speaker 8: The agnostic? I do differentiate that there's the atheist who

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Speaker 8: says that there is no God declared position.

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Speaker 9: You notice they're not saying that as much anymore.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you brought that up the other day, and I'm

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Speaker 8: fascinated about that. I want to live the two examples. Yeah, please.

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Speaker 9: Bill Maher on his show said no, no, we just

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Speaker 9: don't know. Yeah, And I said, what agnostism? He says

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Speaker 9: that doesn't exist. We're all just one of the same.

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Speaker 9: Atheism means you don't know. And then Brett Weinstein on

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Speaker 9: Tucker Carlson's podcast said, we just don't know the answer

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Speaker 9: to a lot of these things, which is so amazing

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Speaker 9: to me because when I grew up Hitchens and Sam

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Speaker 9: Harris and Dawkins was always like you, no, we know,

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Speaker 9: we don't we know there is none. Do you think

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Speaker 9: I'm just overly emphasized over noticing language diction choice here

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Speaker 9: or is there something else going on here? Look?

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Speaker 8: If Bill Maher and Wan Sin are saying that there's

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Speaker 8: only two data place, though, but if they are emblematic

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Speaker 8: of many.

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Speaker 9: Others, they are near the top echelon of non god thinking,

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Speaker 9: it's godless thinking.

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Speaker 8: Look, it's always catch me if you can sort of

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Speaker 8: approach in atheistic ideology. They always say that, well, on

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Speaker 8: the one hand, I don't know about whether or not

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Speaker 8: there's a God. On the other hand, there is some

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Speaker 8: possibility of this one way or the other. But they

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Speaker 8: never quite You can't really pin them down. They're like

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Speaker 8: pinning jello to the wall in terms of their positions.

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Speaker 8: For example, when they start talking about most religions or

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Speaker 8: most wars are caused by religion, then you confront them

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Speaker 8: with the fact that ninety three percent of wars in

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Speaker 8: recorded history have all been non religious. Is that right? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's right, and about half of the religious ones for

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Speaker 8: Muslim base.

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Speaker 9: We're going to put that in our campus tour, so

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Speaker 9: I will. I have a binder of stuff my campus

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Speaker 9: tour of stuff out here a lot, but I could

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Speaker 9: just reference to shut these things up. So you're going

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Speaker 9: to send me the citation.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's in the It's like Pitia of wars. So wow,

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Speaker 8: it's a very straightforward.

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Speaker 9: Please send everything, so please continue.

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Speaker 8: So they go all over the place. You never quite

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Speaker 8: know where the atheist is landing, but they want to

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 8: always in every way. They want to say that they

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Speaker 8: believe in morality, for example, and then you ask them,

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 8: what is morality? Why does that matter to you? There

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01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 8: is no morality in atheism, there's no accountability in atheism,

1520
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 8: but they want to insist that there is morality. When

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Speaker 8: I was an atheist, Charlie, again, I was an honest atheist.

1522
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 8: I did not believe morality. I thought, look, whatever you

1523
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Speaker 8: can get away with so much the better for you.

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Speaker 8: I will play by the rules because I don't want

1525
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 8: to go to jail, and that's about it. And murdering

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01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 8: somebody is no more significant than stealing some gum from

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Speaker 8: a seven to eleven store. And that was terrifying to

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Speaker 8: me when I realized that. It was liberating when I

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 8: discovered that God does expect us to have morality, and.

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 9: He watches everything you do everything.

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 8: And the atheist knows it too. That's the problem I

1532
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 8: have with the atheist. He knows all these things. He lives,

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 8: he tries to live, or it claims to live in

1534
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 8: a moral world where he doesn't want to cheat last

1535
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 8: deal and someone doesn't want to commit adultery on his wife.

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Speaker 8: But at the same time, his worldview allows him to

1537
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 8: do all those things without consequence.

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Speaker 9: They will say so. The more articulate evolutionary biologists like Weinstein,

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01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 9: who I actually think he actually is more respectful towards

1540
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 9: this topic than most, I have to give him a

1541
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 9: lot of credit. He had a good conversation with Tucker.

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 9: He would say, we derive our morality based on if

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 9: everybody else did it, yes, would it be beneficial to

1544
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 9: the group? Right? So, for example, if everyone committed adultere,

1545
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 9: it'd be bad for the tribe. If everyone killed, it

1546
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 9: would be bad for the tribe. If everyone stole to

1547
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 9: be bad for the tribe. And out of that we

1548
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 9: get a belief in the golden rule. How would you.

1549
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I get this a lot. Yeah.

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01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 12: Sure.

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Speaker 9: At which is it's bad for you? Right, it's evolutionarily bad.

1552
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, It's necessarily important to be able to enjoy

1553
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 8: festivals and music and such, because that's evolution. It's also

1554
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 8: good that we don't kill each other. I call this

1555
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 8: the great Mexican standoff argument, where I don't kill you

1556
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 8: because I don't want you to kill me. I don't

1557
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 8: steal from you. I don't want you because I don't

1558
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 8: want people to steal from me. It's it's a cute argument,

1559
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 8: but it doesn't understand. It doesn't have a basis of morality.

1560
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 8: There's if morality is relative, then if I decide something

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 8: is good for me, then I will do something awful

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01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 8: to you and still feel good about it. I'll give

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01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 8: you an example, and I say this in my book

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Speaker 8: Atheism Kills, where if I'm up for promotion a job,

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Speaker 8: and let's say I'm an older guy. I'm forty five

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 8: years old, and there's this young guy who's, you know,

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Speaker 8: twenty eight years old, and he's up for promotion, and

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01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 8: so am I. But I've got four kids and I've

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01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 8: got a gambling debt, and I got to get this job.

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Speaker 8: If I don't get this job, I'm out in the streets.

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Speaker 8: What's what's a big deal? If I just put some

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 8: porn on his computer at work, right, it's not criminal

1573
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 8: per se. But I need that job and he doesn't.

1574
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Speaker 8: I got to take care of my family. That's logical.

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Speaker 8: Everything I said was logical. And he will call him Bobby,

1576
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 8: mister twenty eight year old. Well he'll he'll get another

1577
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 8: job one day. No big deal. He's got plenty of opportunity.

1578
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 8: That's logic. And that is the mindset of a Skolnikop.

1579
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 8: For example, in Crime of Punishment, where he decides to

1580
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Speaker 8: kill his landlady because he decides that she's a burden

1581
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 8: to society. He'll be doing the society of favor. See

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Speaker 8: when you allow that sort of thinking, horrific things.

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Speaker 9: Happen and you murder all the down syndrome babies, that's right,

1584
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Speaker 9: but so they do in Iceland. Absolutely, you must have

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Speaker 9: bored a downstair. Oh I did not know that. Yeah,

1586
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Speaker 9: it's by law you have to. They basically eradicated down

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Speaker 9: syndrome in Iceland and they brag about it. Wow, because

1588
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 9: why would you want a down syndrome baby? Right, there's

1589
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 9: nothing more than a leech on society. They can't harvest

1590
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Speaker 9: or think or create.

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Speaker 8: It's it's frightening to see the way that atheists will

1592
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 8: logic themselves into positions. And that's why we need a

1593
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 8: universal morality that it's a language that we should all

1594
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 8: be able to speak. But they will steal it from us,

1595
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 8: they will claim it for themselves.

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Speaker 9: I could talk to you for hours about this, and

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Speaker 9: I want to let me. Can you crisply describe atheism

1598
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 9: if you had to give you when you when you

1599
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 9: encounter it? Because I asked this for a reason is

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Speaker 9: now we're going to get into some of the heavier

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 9: stuff of the twentieth century. Sure, what is atheism? And

1602
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 9: therefore how could you ascribe that to Hitler and Stalin

1603
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Speaker 9: and all of that.

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Speaker 8: So let's do to me atheism and the way I

1605
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 8: perceived it. The way I ran my life with it

1606
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Speaker 8: is that there are no gods or God, and specifically

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Speaker 8: the Judaea Christian God does not exist, and we are

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Speaker 8: best to not live by the teachings of Judaya Christianity

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Speaker 8: because it has held us back. That is the way

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01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 8: I define atheism.

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01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 9: So the atheism is somewhat of a new phenomenon. Though

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01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,520
Speaker 9: in the ancient world were there atheists.

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 8: Very few, I mean, if there were, they did.

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Speaker 9: Give me the history of atheism, we'll get into the

1615
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 9: last one hundred fifty years.

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01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 8: Atheism principally did not exist until the eighteen eighties or

1617
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 8: so as a practical.

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Speaker 9: Reality because of a lot of scientific and Russian.

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Speaker 8: Innovations and a lot of philosophical philosophies from the German university.

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Speaker 9: It's always the Germans, right blank. It's always the Germans,

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 8: So what it was in the Simpsons is anybody who

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01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 8: speaks German can't be that bad. So anyway, the point

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Speaker 8: is that they created this, they made it more noble,

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Speaker 8: and the idea somehow that it was majestic, and so

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Speaker 8: that kind of gained favor across the Atlantic in America

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Speaker 8: and they started adopting this as well, and they thought, well, look,

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Speaker 8: We need to move to the next step. The way

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Speaker 8: It was not Christian?

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Speaker 9: Is actually an Indian symbol. Yeah, exactly like an Indian.

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Speaker 8: That's weird. I don't tell you to know that something

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Speaker 9: Jehovah's witnesses were targeted. Yes, it was Gypsies, homosexuals, Jews,

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Speaker 9: and Jehovah's witnesses of all people. Forget that, Yeah they

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Speaker 9: do well.

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Speaker 8: Jehovah's witnesses were fantastic in the saving and rescuing of Jews.

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Speaker 9: No, I know. But Jehovah's witness were like in the

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Speaker 9: camp like they were, Yes, very much. Say a lot

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Speaker 9: of Jehovah's witness died a lot.

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Speaker 8: They were very vocal against the Nazi hi so they

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Speaker 8: could not hold themselves.

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Speaker 9: Back and any other Christians suffered greatly because of it.

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Speaker 8: With difference to Christians and I understand, look at me,

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Speaker 8: it was a tough time. They could. I don't expect

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Speaker 8: people to go you.

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Speaker 9: Know, No, it was a great failing in the American Church.

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Speaker 9: Now I'm very clear. Yeah, and Bonhoffer is one of

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Speaker 9: the great legends of the twentieth century.

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Speaker 8: So, and one of the thing about Hitler is that

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Speaker 8: people don't know this. He loved Islam. He said that

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Speaker 8: it was a great shame that.

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Speaker 9: Germany graded some of them into the military. Y, yes, yes,

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Speaker 9: he did free era or something, that's right.

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Speaker 8: He said, what a shame it was that Germany had

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Speaker 8: adopted Christianity, which was a feeble religion, and into him,

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Speaker 8: and that it would have been better for Germany to

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Speaker 8: have adopted a much more strong another strong word that

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Speaker 8: he used. I forget what it was, something like robust

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Speaker 8: religions such as Muhammedism. That's what he called it, Mohammedism.

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Speaker 9: That's what I call it. Yeah, as a pejorative.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well he meant it as a as a compliment.

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Speaker 8: But of course we all know.

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Speaker 9: That Hitler really call it Mohammedism. Yeah. Yeah, that's so funny.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's a weird uh. His look, Hitler was

1751
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Speaker 8: people want to say, he.

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Speaker 9: Was with them all the time. But I mean there

1753
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Speaker 9: is a weird, disturbing fringe of the internet people that

1754
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Speaker 9: are trying to like White Knight Hitler. Yeah, and some

1755
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Speaker 9: of these people pretend to be Christian. And he hated

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Speaker 9: Christianity absolutely, but then again at the same time, like,

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Speaker 9: oh no, he was actually Christian. He worked great with

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Speaker 9: the church. There's it's the opposite of the Islamic one.

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Speaker 9: That's very interesting. Got along with Islam because I also

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Speaker 9: find some people are disturbingly friendly with Islam. That's actually

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Speaker 9: a really, really good segue. So let me ask you

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Speaker 9: a critical potential. I agree everything you're saying. It's your

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Speaker 9: website says a world about God is a world of chaos.

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Speaker 9: But then Who's God? Is it Allah? Is it you know?

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Speaker 9: Is it Jehovah? Is it Adami? Is it you know Jesus?

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Speaker 9: Is it Buddha?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 9: Do you believe in monotheism?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 9: Is that the essence monotheism?

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Speaker 8: When I speak about God, I don't want to keep

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Speaker 8: on in my books and otherwise I define it quite

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Speaker 8: well in atheist and kills and atheism destroyers that when

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Speaker 8: I say believe in God, I'm talking about the Judeo

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Speaker 8: Christian God. I think Judas and Christianity are one of

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Speaker 8: the same. In this department, we share the Old Testament,

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Speaker 8: what we call the Torah and and the took. Thank

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Speaker 8: you great. You know your stuff really well, but it's

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Speaker 8: it's it's great. And I feel like my Christian friends

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Speaker 8: are my brothers. I love them and we talk together

1781
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 8: about how God is real and finding him, and it

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01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 8: gives me no greater joy, Charlie than to find yet

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Speaker 8: another proof of God, so beyond just my own internal observations,

1784
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Speaker 8: when somebody else reasons with me with that, like some

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Speaker 8: of your comments have been very helpful, Charlie, Frank Turrek

1786
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Speaker 8: as as you mentioned a person, Gerald Schroeder. He wrote

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Speaker 8: The Science of God, which is a fantastic book as well.

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Speaker 8: I just I just eat this up. But I write

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Speaker 8: about the dangers of atheism because it's look, I you know,

1790
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Speaker 8: I'll talk about God all day long, how wonderful God is,

1791
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Speaker 8: and how God is real, but my main focus is

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01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 8: why atheism is so destructive you can't just believe.

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Speaker 9: And it's a great school of work that you've positioned.

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Speaker 8: Your thank you, Thank you. Yeah, I don't know any

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Speaker 8: anybody else really focusing on.

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Speaker 9: Well, let's talk about friend Dennis, right, and we should

1797
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Speaker 9: pray for Dennis. Okay, I'll be back in studio in

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Speaker 9: America tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing you soon. Email me

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Speaker 9: Freedom at Charliekirk dot com, got bline

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