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Speaker 1: before they get a chance to adjust. Because this is

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Speaker 1: what they've shown the last few years. Right, they can

427
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Speaker 1: always adjust what their coaching staff at halftime, all right,

428
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Speaker 1: to whatever we've done, even if it's worked well in

429
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Speaker 1: the first half. And the last one is the Michigan

430
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff needs to be the difference and not the reason.

431
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 1: Oh they need to be the difference Michigan wins and

432
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 1: not the reason they lose. You tell me what you

433
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: think now, dude, I thought you knocked on the head.

434
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a phrase for you for Michigan.

435
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: Long drives help you survive. Yep, that goes both ways.

436
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: If a house state's gonna score, you make them go

437
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: nine plays. You can't get hit. It can't be a

438
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: hit and run. Can't be a hit and run where

439
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: they're out there. Like you said, taking advantage of picking

440
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: up the blitz, which CJ. Stroud has made a killing

441
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: of this season. You've got to make them drive now

442
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: on your side. Time of possession is huge in a

443
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: game like this. Michigan's goal get to the fourth quarter

444
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: with a chance. That's all you can ask Get to

445
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with a chance. With all the history

446
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: in the pass of the losing in harv On, ohiuse state,

447
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: get your ass to the fourth quarter with the chance

448
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 1: to win the game. And you do that, and again, look,

449
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 1: it's not bad if you hit a seventy yard touchdown play,

450
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but you being able to run

451
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: the ball, to establish command up front, to even split

452
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: time of possession. That keeps CJ. Stroud on the bench.

453
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: It's hard for them to score if a lava and

454
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: all of them are sitting over there by the Gatorade cooler.

455
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, if you can

456
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Speaker 1: have long drives on both sides, you can give yourself

457
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Speaker 1: in a chance in the fourth quarter, which means you

458
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance late, which is all you can

459
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Speaker 1: ask for. So I don't think you gotta go out

460
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: there and do anything crazy outside of yourself other than

461
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: keep everything in front of you and frustrate them. What

462
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: do explosive offenses, whether it's basketball, whether it's football, regardless,

463
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: what do they hate? What do they hate being held down?

464
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: And the longer you hold them down, it's like a

465
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: volcano gets it wants to erupt more and more and

466
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: more and more and more till it gets to a

467
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: certain point where it can't hold it in anymore. And

468
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: that's when the mistake happens. And if you're Michigan, to me,

469
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: you gotta make the volcano bubble. You got to have

470
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Speaker 1: long drive to survive. Yes, but with Ohio State, in

471
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: my opinion, the exact opposite. You need a fast start.

472
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Speaker 1: They believe, Michigan believes this year, the fan base believes,

473
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Speaker 1: the players believe. You can tell something's a little bit

474
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Speaker 1: different than the air. You do have a young quarterback

475
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State. They haven't been as consistent as they

476
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Speaker 1: normally had. And you're going to the big House. It's

477
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna be nuts. There's gonna be so much pregame stuff.

478
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Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be talking about it. You need to take

479
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: away the belief early. You took away Michigan State's belief

480
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: awfully early last week. And I know it was at home,

481
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Speaker 1: but you need to remind Michigan who has dominated this rivalry.

482
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: You need to remind Michigan who is the bully in

483
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 1: the yard. And you do that by showing up. If

484
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Daan, we win the toss, Give me the

485
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: damn ball, Give me the ball. I want to go score.

486
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Speaker 1: Because if you let him hang around and hang around,

487
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: that belief's gonna build, and it's gonna build. It's gonna build,

488
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: and it's gonna build, and your margin for error is

489
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna get smaller and smaller and smaller as that clock goes.

490
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: But if you come out and you hit him in

491
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: the throat early, you punch him in the face early,

492
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: you go down there and put seven on the board,

493
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: get a stop, and go up fourteen to nothing. People

494
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: start looking around, and what do they start saying? Oh,

495
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: it's the same old thing. All of a sudden, the

496
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: chirping about hardball comes back. Halfway through the second quarter.

497
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's feeling bad. There's no way we can come back.

498
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: And that's when Ryan Day and then Bury you it's

499
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Speaker 1: Iron Bowl week. Who better you know, We've got bow

500
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: Nicks coming on later in the week. Why not bring

501
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: an Alabama quarterback in here? A really good one. John

502
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,959
Speaker 1: Parker Wilson you can catch him now with Eli Gold

503
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: does an unbelievable job. But JPW, before we get started,

504
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: I just do want to send my condolences and prayers

505
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: to Cecil Hurt and his family and the Alabama family. Guy,

506
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, obviously unbelievable at his job and sorry to

507
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: hear about his passing. Yeah, you know, very sad news.

508
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: But I think you've seen for the Twitter and the

509
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Speaker 1: different hourage people reaching out. I mean, he was a

510
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: special guy. I remember he covered me when I was

511
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: playing Um you know, grew up reading him and followed him,

512
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: and he was he was such a special person. Loves

513
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Speaker 1: seeing him in the press box and even when I

514
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Speaker 1: was playing him. He was one of those guys that

515
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: was just an effectious person. And you know he's gonna

516
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: be greatly missed. Yeah, and you know the irony of

517
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: it being Iron Bowl week a guy that covered the

518
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl and was a big part of it. And

519
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Speaker 1: you know it's again, like I said, prayers and condolences

520
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: go out to his family. But we got a game

521
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: to play, jp W, and you're looking at this matchup,

522
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, Auburn on a downward slide. You know, you

523
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: lose bo Nicks had a couple other injuries. When you

524
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Speaker 1: look at this game from a thirty thousand foot view,

525
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: it is kind of your thoughts on it. You know,

526
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: I think it's the iron Ball. It's a big week,

527
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: it's a big game. And I've been following a lot

528
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: of players and the media in media availability for these guys,

529
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Speaker 1: and I love seeing that even guys from out of town,

530
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: out of state realize how important this game is. It's

531
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 1: a big deal. And you know you always say, oh,

532
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: rivalry games, you can kill the record book out and

533
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: I think this is the case this year. You know,

534
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Speaker 1: I got first year head coach Alburn. He's figuring out

535
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Speaker 1: how much just mean this game means around the state.

536
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: New quarterback come in t J Finley, So you can

537
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of do things that you you maybe wouldn't typically

538
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: do with your starter, kind of play around Teaker a

539
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: little bit. And it's at Alburn, so I think it's

540
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: a big deal. It's an extremely tough place to play,

541
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: and you know Alabama is trying to get ready for

542
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: Georgia in the SEC Championship, but Alburn would love nothing

543
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: more to wreck Albama season, right now and put them away,

544
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: you know, and we always release our keys to victory.

545
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: We are going to be releasing them later in the

546
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Speaker 1: week as well. But you know, looking at Auburn, I'm

547
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna go over one for each and get your thoughts

548
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: on it. You know, looking at Auburn, You've got to

549
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: find a way to get explosive plays. You know, you

550
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: look at that offense. How many you know, sixty yard

551
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: touchdown runs have you seen? How many big explosive plays

552
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: over forty fifty yards have you seen? You're not gonna

553
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Speaker 1: be able to just you know, trying three yards in

554
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: a cloud of dust Alabama and expect, you know, for

555
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: this to be a seventeen fourteen game. Am I barking

556
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: up the right tree from the Auburn side there? No,

557
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, And I think you know, when

558
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: teams have you know, A and M a lot of

559
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: explosive plays, LSU is able to keep it close. You

560
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: it's really hard to go sustain those drives against these

561
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: defense now when they do get the explosive plays, it's

562
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Speaker 1: kind of been when Alabama has been confused in the

563
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: second area and we've seen some guys run free, you know,

564
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Speaker 1: Arkansas was able to do it and be pretty productive

565
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Speaker 1: in that, so I think it is a way to

566
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Speaker 1: do it. And also with the way Alabama offense is moving,

567
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: the other team offense has to be aware of that

568
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: and put up points because right now Bryce Jan has

569
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: got to click it on offense, and I think they're

570
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna expect to score a point. So if I'm Alburn,

571
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: you got to hit those explosive plays and try to

572
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: get some points on the board, especially early. You don't

573
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: want to you can't play catch up with this offense

574
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: right now that Alban has got on the field without

575
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: a doubt. And you know, I talked to Rice every

576
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: week when we were talking Monday night, and I talked

577
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Speaker 1: to him about it seems to me like the past

578
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: three four weeks, the timing in your head of when

579
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: to take off is really starting to add up, and

580
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: he's starting to become a lot more effective as a

581
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: runner while protecting himself. And he was like, yeah, you know,

582
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: just game reps. I'm getting used to it, understanding, you know,

583
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: And he made a good point. He's like, when I

584
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: take off all the time, it's not because the protection's

585
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: not good. He's like, everybody thinks that Joe I took

586
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: off and scrambled that that must mean I had pressure.

587
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm seeing guys backs turned and I'm

588
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: taking off and going, which to me as a defensive

589
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: guy is scary as hell JPW because the way he

590
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: can extend the play. And if you're Alabama coming into

591
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: this game, you really have to stay the course. To me,

592
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: trying to do too much would be your own downfall here.

593
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: You've just got to continue to operate the way that

594
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: you've operated and try and put a consistent full game together,

595
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Speaker 1: which I mean, I don't know if we've seen outside

596
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: of maybe old Man. Yeah, you're exactly right. It's it's

597
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: been flashes at different parts of the offense. Um, you know,

598
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: one week we'll be running the ball, lsue we couldn't

599
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: run the ball at all. I think the offense had

600
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: pretty good, um you know, complete game for them with

601
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Robinson going over a hundred yards rush and two

602
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: receivers over a hundred yards. But I think you're exactly right.

603
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing Bryce his maturation of a quarterback

604
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: and just his first year starting. Um, you know, he

605
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: was really efficient early. I think he got the deep

606
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: ball going middle of the season and now he's putting

607
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: the running game on there. And you're right, it's not

608
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: he's not pulling it down because he has to. He's

609
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: seeing what the defense is doing and saying, hey, this

610
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: is a really good opportunity for me to run the

611
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: ball or they get a covered downfield. You see production

612
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: really increase from Alabama. So I think Bryce has got it,

613
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: got it clicking right now, and and he's understanding what's

614
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: going on, and his timing is good. His knowledge of

615
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: the game has gotten so much better. And to me,

616
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: he's a dramatically better quarterback than he was the first game.

617
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: And that's that's saying something because he started out pretty hot, definitely,

618
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: and I'm very interested to see too. You know, kind

619
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: of Alabama they want to be balanced, you know, Bob

620
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: wants to be as balanced as possible. But I feel

621
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: like Bryce young and then we're gonna take a few

622
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: shots early. I would not be shocked. And something me

623
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: and you were talking about before you get on here,

624
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: John Parker, is Alabama coming out and trying to take

625
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: away the faith early because just like we talk about

626
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: Ohio State going to Michigan, they believe in Michigan that

627
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: they can win this game, regardless of what the records

628
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: are in the Iron Bowl. Auburn playing at home, believes

629
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: they can win this game. And we've seen crazy stuff happen.

630
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: How big is it for Alabama gonna come out in

631
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: that first quarter and a half, in that first half

632
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: and trying to implement their will and show, hey, we're

633
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the dominant team just like everybody thought we were. Yeah,

634
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and trying to dominate over I think that's what Alabama

635
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: wants to wants to be able to do going into

636
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the Georgia game. Alburg's a tough place to play, like

637
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: we said, and you know, if you can get out

638
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: on a lead, if you're a road team, you get

639
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: on the lead, you feel it in this eight him.

640
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: You can feel, you know, the grumblings in the in

641
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: the in the crowd, good or bad. If Auburn gets

642
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: out to a lead or as competitive, you know they're

643
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna feel a lot of emotion. So I think right now, Alabama,

644
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: you let Jameson Williams go. This guy's got so much

645
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: speed and it's been a major explosive player. So if

646
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: you can get him going early and you hit hit

647
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: a deep ball, really that's going to soften up the

648
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: defense and make it so much easier on the run game.

649
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: So I think I think getting him going and even

650
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Matchie he's been an explosive player too, makes the whole

651
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: offense better because then we can start working at our

652
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: tight ends, we can start running the running backs. And

653
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: it's really a big explosive advantage that Alabama has right now,

654
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: no doubt. And John Parker, I do get to ask

655
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: you my last question before my last question, I got

656
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: two more great Brian Harson year one. What gread would

657
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you give him? I think Ryan Harson has done really

658
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: well so far. And m Auburn sitting right now it's

659
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: six and five. I think he's got the program going

660
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: to right direction. I mean, I like what they're doing offensively,

661
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: and um and and what bringing bringing the screen, bringing

662
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: the screen. No, we're not living right now. Yeah, No,

663
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: you're good. Hey, Hey, you can join us for the

664
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: rest of the interview. They can they can join It's

665
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl week, man, it's Thanksgiving week. They can join

666
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: us for the rest of the Internear Bowl. It's Thanksgiving.

667
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: But I think Ryan Harrison has done done good. I think, um,

668
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I like where Albred's programs at right now.

669
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: If I'm an Alburd fan, they they've they've they've definitely. Um,

670
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I think that turned things around, but really accelerated what

671
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: what Malazan had going. Yeah, no doubt. It's gonna be

672
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: interesting too to see it as it goes in his

673
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: first recruiting class and getting personnel in there. But John Parker, man,

674
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I always appreciate you coming, appreciate you coming on. Brother. Uh,

675
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: tell us no, man, tell us, tell those up boys.

676
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: We said hello, And I know they're gonna there's gonna

677
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: be some good eating going on in the Wilson household

678
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: this week. Looking at this Iron Bowl, and I know

679
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: you're hurt by when I canna be able to play,

680
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: and you're as competitive as anybody. What is this game

681
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: mean to you? I mean, you're a guy that grew

682
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: up in an Auburn family, in Auburn legacy. I mean

683
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: there's pictures of you, you know, in the stands, uh,

684
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: in Iron bowls previous. What does this game mean to you? Well, Um,

685
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: just as an Auburn fan, it means a lot. Um

686
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: and just from an Auburn player that's played in it,

687
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: um graduated from Auburn. It means a lot. This game is,

688
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: UM obviously everything and and why you come to Auburn. UM,

689
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: it's just those the little things and rivalries that that

690
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: make the biggest difference. And every year, no matter the

691
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: record of each team, that's always a good, good football game.

692
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: And that's what you can expect this week. UM. You

693
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: can throw like records to the side, UM standings to

694
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: the side, and it's just gonna be a good football game. UM,

695
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: that's what you can expect. And that's what this game

696
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: has always provided for the fans. And so it's gonna

697
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: be a good, hard fought game. UM. A lot of

698
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: effort from both sides, a lot of good plays from

699
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: both sides, and UM, just it's a fun game to

700
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: be in it. It'll be a fun atmosphere on Saturday.

701
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, Bo, when you look at this Alabama defense,

702
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: I know you're you're a fan of the game, you're

703
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: a student of the game as well. I know you've

704
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: been able to watch Alabama all year. What are a

705
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: few things that stand out to you about this Alabama defense?

706
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: But I just obviously they're their front seven, UM is

707
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: really good. And then they got some a lot of

708
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: veterans in the back end and UM, what's Alabama they've

709
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: always done a good job on defense is getting a

710
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: hat on a hat and making sure they cover up

711
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: all the guys and UM there's very few like easy

712
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: give me throws, UM that they allow, and that's just

713
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: speaks to them as a defense, speaks to their communication

714
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: and UM athleticism, how they can get on guys and

715
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: cover them and UM make sure they eliminate those easy passes.

716
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: And then the front seven just allows you to, um

717
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: just kind of do that in the secondary because they

718
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: don't give up many rush lanes and UM, they do

719
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: a good job at the point of attack. And so

720
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: there's just a physical team and can run UM and

721
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: they're always they're usually always in the right spot. And

722
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: again that goes back to just covering up everybody. Yeah,

723
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: and you know, bo, I know we've talked before, and

724
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: you talked about, you know, kind of letting TJ do

725
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: his thing, and he has experience, but he hadn't doesn't

726
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: have experience in this game. You've you have experienced in

727
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: this game. Is there anything you're going to talk to

728
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: him about this week? Because again, I know it's probably

729
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: hard to explain from one player to another, even though

730
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: he has experience and you do as well. But in

731
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: this game, is there anything you can tell TJ other

732
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: than to just go get him? Well you can. I

733
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: mean you can tell him all he wants to hear,

734
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of people will tell him what to expect,

735
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: but you really can't. Can't like imagine it, can't expect

736
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: it until you actually experience it for the first time.

737
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: And he's been in big games. He's played in big

738
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: games before, um, so it won't be necessarily anything shocking

739
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: to him. Um. You know, he's been in stadiums where

740
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: it's been loud and the atmosphere has been crazy, and

741
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: he's played against good defensive So I think that that

742
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: just together, it will allow him to have what it

743
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: takes to to go out there and play a good game.

744
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: And I may say a few things may help him,

745
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: encourage him just to stay, you know, stay in the game.

746
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: It's a long game. They're gonna make good plays, You're

747
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna make good plays. Let them cancel each other out

748
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: and you just make the next play and continue to

749
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: make it over and over. Definitely, Man, well, bo, I

750
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: appreciate your brother. Hope you heal soon. I'm sure we're

751
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna have you back here in the next couple of

752
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: weeks and looking forward to the bowl season and the

753
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: postseason as well. Man, stay get healthier and stay healthy.

754
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Let's talk some iron ball here, Lance.

755
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at each one of these teams. Obviously,

756
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: Auburn's been on a downward trajectory. Bo Nix is out,

757
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: got some other guys beat up, really struggling to put

758
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: four quarters together. Alabama, on the other hand, coming in

759
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: they haven't been as consistent as we've seen in the past.

760
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: But the roster for Alabama is so much further ahead

761
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: than Auburn's, especially up front. Just you know, overlooking the

762
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: whole game. Are what are kind of some quick thoughts

763
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: from each side. Yeah, I mean, I will be in

764
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: his offense playing at a high level. You know, if

765
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you would have told me, Jake last week that you know,

766
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: Bryson was going to go U record five fifty nine

767
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have the combination of Jamison Williams going

768
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: almost two hundred yards and three touchdowns and Metchi doing

769
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: his thing for one seventy three and Brian Robinson you know,

770
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: going one twenty five almost on the ground. I would

771
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: have thought it would have been a thirty five point game,

772
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: but Alabama, outside of Mississippi State, as yet to really

773
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: play a full sixty minute so I think the roster's good.

774
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I think Alabama fans have spoiled themselves trying to compare

775
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: this version to twenty twenty, which you can make an

776
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: argument with twenty nineteen LSU and maybe twenty eighteen Clemson,

777
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: some of the best teams we've seen in the history

778
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: of college football. So maybe unfair to Obama, but there's

779
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: just something they're lacking. And you know, you look at

780
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: the secondary, they've given up big plays. The offensive line.

781
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: If you're an Alabama fan, they've given up seventeen sacks

782
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: even with such a mobile elusive Rice Young over the

783
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: last six games. So there's definitely flaws with this Alabama team.

784
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: And as far as Auburn goes, you know it's Alabama

785
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: has lost three or four in Jordan here, three of

786
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the last four with Boden quarterbacking. I think this game

787
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: is so different. I just don't buy T. J. Finley

788
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: in his second Auburn start, you know, pulling this kind

789
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: of magic out to me, and this is really cheesy Jake,

790
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: I brought this one show and I didn't even mean

791
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: to do it, but I use the acronym T and

792
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: T turnovers and Tank. I think if Tank has a

793
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: monster game, which he's capable of, and they give the

794
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: ball ball over, which Rice Youln really hasn't done, then

795
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I think they got an opportunity here. Yeah, and look,

796
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: you know at Lance you've seen a bunch of iron balls.

797
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: I have too. You never really know in this matchup,

798
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: especially at Jordan Hair, but just the bo Nicks effect,

799
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, his ability to extend the play as we

800
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: saw against LSU, we've seen to add his whole career

801
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: TJ not as a verse there. And then Tank, you know,

802
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: if they'll give him the ball. You look at the

803
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: second half of the South Carolina game and you just

804
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: thought somebody through an invisibility cloak on him the way

805
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: that Bobo wouldn't feed him. But you know, looking at

806
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Brian Harson, Lance in his first year, and I always

807
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, first year has got to be a pass.

808
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: You got to give a guy a time to get

809
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: his personnel in there. But just watching the way that

810
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Auburn is operated, what are your thoughts on Brian Harson

811
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: year one. Well, you know when they made the hier Jake,

812
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I applauded the hire for it being an out of

813
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: the box hire. I don't know how good of a

814
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: coach Brian Harrison is because he took over what was

815
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: an elite Group five program in Boise State and he

816
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't do the job that Chris Peterson did. He did

817
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. I'm not a great job, So

818
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of a strange Hire. But

819
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I like the fact that Auburn went outside of the

820
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: box finally, and then when Auburn was sitting just less

821
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: than a month ago at number thirteen, controlled their own destiny.

822
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: I was like, hell, man, this might be your sec

823
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: coach of the year. But now back to back blown

824
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: fourteen point plus leads, only the third time we've seen

825
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: that over the last fifteen years in this conference. I

826
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: don't know what to think. You know, Bobo, Obviously he's

827
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: getting questioned. Derek Mason going back to Mississippi State and

828
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: that complete meltdown and debacle against Will Rodgers. He's being

829
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: questioned right now. So I'm like, you, man, every coach

830
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I give a pass in year one, this is kind

831
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: of what I expected from Auburn. I didn't expect them

832
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: to lose to South Carolina in year one, but I

833
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: expected six and six or seven to five. So this

834
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: doesn't blow me away. You know, he'll get adjusted. You

835
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: know there's rumors out there that he might be looking

836
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: me out to where I would be shocked if Brian

837
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Harson isn't back in twenty twenty two. But like you said, man,

838
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: you got to give this guy a pass. And I

839
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: think all at all C plus B minus job. Yeah,

840
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of pressure, a lot more pressure

841
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: now on signing day for Auburn and make a mark

842
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: after they've kind of fallen off a cliff. You know,

843
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: you go eight and four, screw around and go nine

844
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: and three. You can convince the people on you know,

845
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: we're getting guys in here to get the fit and

846
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: he can put on twenty pounds. You go six and six.

847
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: You better be signing some guys with stars next to

848
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: their name or people are gonna started asking a lot

849
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: of questions from the front to the back. But Lance,

850
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: I do want to focus on this Alabama team and

851
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: their ceiling this year as we kind of wind down.

852
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: We're here with Lance Taylor from next round live our buddies,

853
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 1: Jim Dounaway, Ryan Brown over there do a really good job. Lance.

854
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: When you look at this Alabama team, and I know

855
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: you have the Iron Bowl and they're not going to

856
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: look past them, but we can look past That's a

857
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: great part about being in this profession. When you look

858
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: at Alabama lining put Georgia. To me, Alabama's gonna have to,

859
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and we've mentioned on this show, put

860
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: a full game together, something we haven't seen. And right now,

861
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference in Georgia and Alabama is

862
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: that George has been able to play complimentary football with

863
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: an elite roster. Alabama has yet to find that. What

864
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: do you think about the Alabama Georgia matchup looking at

865
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get in Atlanta, Well, I think what's

866
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: fascinating is you try to tell me an elite offense

867
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: that Georgia has faced. You know, I don't think one's

868
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: out there. You know, Tennessee's got a pretty good offense

869
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: now with Lindon Hooker, Arkansas and Spots, but this will

870
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: be by far the best offense they've seen. And I

871
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: know they haven't played any tight games. They've basically scol

872
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: drug every team they've played, but this Alabama team does

873
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: have potential to hang with them. And I think a

874
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: lot of this has to do with the Alabama brand.

875
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: But people have asked me for the last couple of weeks,

876
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: what will the number be in Atlanta for the SEC Championship,

877
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: And you know, about two months ago, I said, I

878
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: still think Alabama will be favored based on the brand,

879
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: but based on the inconsistencies over the last few weeks.

880
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: I said, george is gonna be your favorite, I don't

881
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: know how much. And then we see Circa released it

882
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: last week, Georgia was only a three and a half

883
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: point favorite. Everybody's gonna be on Georgia. Alabama obviously is

884
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna have motivation. They feel like there is no margin

885
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: of era at all. If they lose this game, they're

886
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: more than likely out of the College Football playoff. So

887
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fascinating. It's an elite offense

888
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: against an elite defense. What gives I'm still not sure

889
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: how good Georgia's offense is. Yeah. I had a conversation

890
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: with somebody a couple of weeks ago and they were like,

891
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: I can't name one skill guy on Georgia's team outside

892
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: of Stetson minute. So it is a fascinating you know,

893
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: in today's world of college football where everything's offense, Georgia

894
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: has been dominant this year, but it's not like they've

895
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: got a ton of first rounders on that offense. So

896
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, if Alabama's defense shows up like they did

897
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: against Mississippi State, I think it'll be a hell of

898
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: a game. Right now, it's hard not to lean Georgia

899
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: because they've been so dominant. But I'll be over there,

900
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you over there, and yeah, we'll be here.

901
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: All right. It's rivalry week and we have some representation

902
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: up here. I know we're not going live today, nobody

903
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: freaked out. We'll be back same time next week, starting

904
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: on Monday. But we couldn't let the week go without

905
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: giving our keys to victory, which we did. And now

906
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: talking about which rivalry is the best rivalry, and there's

907
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: only two to compare, you can take Florida State, Miami

908
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: take that out, y'all can talk about that in places

909
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: that nobody really cares about. You can take here. You know,

910
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: egg Bowls a good rivalry. But you know, Caesar salad's

911
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: a good salad. We're talking Iron Bowl and Michigan versus

912
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State because I refused to call it the game

913
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: because it's not the game. It's the game again between

914
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan. And here's where I stand on it. Cone.

915
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: We know your former Michigan quarterback, so obviously gonna probably

916
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: take a side of it. Me being from the state

917
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: of Alabama, Yeah, okay, Me being from the state of Alabama,

918
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: happen to believe that the Iron Bowl is the better rivalry.

919
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: There's more vitriol. There's also respect, but there's more vitriol,

920
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: and it means more. You want to know why, because

921
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: what are the If you ever grew up with siblings,

922
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: you know it's one thing to have a rivalry with

923
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: a guy that lives across the street. You know that

924
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: that's one thing. See him all the time, go to

925
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: the same school, hang out at the same places. But

926
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: when you have a rivalry with a sibling that's in

927
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: the same house, you gotta see when you wake up

928
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: in the morning. You gotta see him when you go

929
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: to sleep, you gotta see him at the dinner table.

930
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: You grow up and you go through things together. It

931
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: matters more. The most brutal fights I've ever been in

932
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: have been with my brother because it just means more

933
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: when it's in the family cone. Not saying that Michigan

934
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: that's a lie, not saying that Michigan and Ohio say

935
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: it isn't isn't important, or that they don't like each other,

936
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: but y'all live across the street from each other. The

937
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl, it's in the same house, and more than

938
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: one team wins every now and then. That's another thing

939
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: that makes it important. Auburn has been one of the

940
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: few teams that's been able to go toe to toe

941
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: with Bama. To me, that makes it an even better

942
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: rivalry because it's competitive. I mean Ohio State has. To me,

943
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: it's like the part on Wayne's World where he's telling

944
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: the story about Ozzy Osbourne when he's like Ozzy came

945
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: in the bag and said, if we didn't get him

946
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: a bucket full of green eminem's, he wasn't going on

947
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: stage that night because I'd be like, Ohio State can

948
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: walk in and be like, give me the green eminems

949
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: or we're not playing last year. Last year played a

950
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: little game in Duck Duck Goose. In my opinion that

951
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: would never happen in the Iron Bowl. But it's different

952
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: when it's in the same house. It's different. It's different

953
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: when you got to share a bathroom with them growing up.

954
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: They're always there. They're always there. I can't close the

955
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: blinds and it be done. Don't look at them. It's

956
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: not keeping up with the Jones Is. Y'all are the

957
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: Jones Is? You were Jones and Nara Jones and that's

958
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: more important than Indiana Jones. Sorry, Colm, what do you

959
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: think is that? Are you ready? When you kick it

960
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: to me, I'm going in your back. I'm coming back

961
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: like Jordan. You won't. You won't need to Blaines blainesma

962
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: on what is it like your mama? He's like, let's bully,

963
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm the guy. I'm just I'm the Dana White between.

964
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: What do you say, y'all gonna mix up a couple

965
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: of wins in this or what? Quite frankly, Quite frankly, Jake,

966
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm running out of reasons. Oh okay, I'm running out

967
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: of reasons. Oh no, I've talked to dozens. I've talked

968
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: to dozens of teammates this week, as I always do

969
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: every year, as I always do every year this week,

970
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: and um, I'm gonna break this down in three tiers

971
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: for you. I'm all ears, you're ready for the three.

972
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute him. There we go, Past, present and future.

973
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: Are you going to Ebenezer Scrooge on past, present and future?

974
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Don't get muted again, all right, I can't.

975
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: I stand by my statement from this summer that no

976
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: one decade can determine the fate of rivalries that are

977
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty years old, right, And I think

978
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: historically the Michigan Ohio state rivalry has been more important

979
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: in college football because of the postseason implications, specifically the

980
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. And I think with the historical aspect, Michigan

981
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: and Ohio have been more comparable in terms of their

982
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: greatness in taking games off of each other, whereas historically,

983
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: I think Auburn has played that underdog role sort of

984
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: been the silver to Alabama's gold for a long time. Historically,

985
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: the Silver Bowl at Alabamas where fair enough. That was

986
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: that rivalry Michigan and Ohio was really really catapulted to

987
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: the forefront of college football with Bowen Woodie the tenure.

988
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Right when you hear things like I went for two

989
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: because I couldn't go for three. Push the bus, Push

990
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: the bus across the state line because we're not paying

991
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: for gas in Michigan, right, Things like that makes it

992
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: great that ended in nineteen seventy eight, that teen year

993
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: award eight. That's a decade before you and I were born. Yeah,

994
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: what happened? Two years later? Pat Dye shows up on

995
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: campus at Auburn. You know what he said? He says,

996
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: we know they don't want to respect us at Alabama,

997
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: but they're going to respect us. And for the last

998
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: forty years they've been demanding that respect. And when this

999
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: clip plays, I'm gonna be sitting in a household full

1000
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: of Alabama fans and they don't want to respect Auburn.

1001
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: But you know what they say, even this week, even

1002
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: this week, three touchdown favorites, they're gonna say, yeah, but

1003
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: it's at Jordan Hare. You never know. That's respect, that's respect, okay,

1004
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: Which gets me to the present, okay, which I consider

1005
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: to be let's say, the last ten fifteen years. Fifteen

1006
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: years ago this week, I was a freshman, eighteen year

1007
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: old freshman on campus in n Arbor one verse two, Right,

1008
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: How cool? Is that one verse two with postseason implications.

1009
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Coach Shembeckler dies the day

1010
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: before the game passes on Friday. We go to Columbus,

1011
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: lose by three in the Horseshoe, they win the Big Ten,

1012
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: they win the Heisman Trophy, they play in the National Title.

1013
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: And what's happened since then? Fifteen of sixteen and what

1014
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: happened right after that? A man by the name of

1015
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Nick Saban takes the head coaching job at Alabama and

1016
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: creates the greatest dynasty our sport has ever seen. Better

1017
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: than Bear Bryant, better than all of them. And in

1018
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: the midst of that dynasty recruiting the best players, every

1019
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: five star in a fifteen hundred mile radius. What has

1020
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: Auburn done? Somehow they figure out a way every other

1021
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: year to beat them, because that's what a great rivalry means.

1022
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Your record doesn't matter, your

1023
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: ranking doesn't matter, home field advantage doesn't matter. Personnel matters,

1024
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: but it can be overcome. All that matters. The most

1025
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: important thing is who won last year. Because the loser

1026
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: has had to stew for three sixty five and they

1027
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: want their shot that's what Auburn's done in the middle

1028
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: of the greatest dynasty that we've seen in college football.

1029
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: Why always telling all my Alabama fan friends, I'm like,

1030
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: y'all understand, it's never gonna be better than this. Yeah,

1031
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be better than this. And in the

1032
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: midst of that got two national title births and one

1033
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: one of them. So as we sit here today, the

1034
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl is the most important rivalry in college football.

1035
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: And we've already established that the most important rivalries in

1036
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: sports are college football rivalries. So the most important rivalry

1037
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: in sport here too, four right now is the Iron Ball.

1038
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: That's the past, that's the present. Let me get you

1039
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: to the future real quick. Let's get to the future.

1040
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: Great job. If Michigan and Ohio want to reclaim that

1041
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: throne right for the greatest rivalry, there's a few things

1042
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: that need to happen. One Michigan control, one they can't control.

1043
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: The first one is when your rival beat your rival,

1044
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna need Auburn to lose consistently. What

1045
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 1: you can't control, let's just say, Jim Harball, we're able

1046
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: to figure out the Ohio problem. Win the next four

1047
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: or five, five, or six get into a couple of playoffs,

1048
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: and simultaneously, coach Harson can't figure out the Knick Saban problem. Right,

1049
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, We're able to win six seven in a

1050
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: row to sunset into retirement. Then in five years you

1051
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: and I are having a very different conversation because, like

1052
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: I said, no one decade can determine the fate of

1053
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: rivalries that are both one hundred and thirty plus years old. Yeah, right, okay,

1054
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: So what better time to start? What better time to

1055
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: start than right now? As you sit in an arbor

1056
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: at ten and one and congratulations, let's give credit where

1057
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: credit is due. Michigan is ten and one with the

1058
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: boys from Ohio also ten and one coming to your

1059
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: place with playoff and postseason implications right and on the

1060
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: other side of that, you have a down Auburn team

1061
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: with a first year Auburn coach hosting a one loss

1062
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: Alabama team who's already cemented their place in the conference championship.

1063
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: What better time to start than right now? Okay, right now?

1064
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Because everything you want goes through Ohio, just like everything

1065
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: for Auburn goes through Alabama. Everything for Alabama goes through Auburn.

1066
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: Everything you want goes through Ohio. If you can't beat Ohio,

1067
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: you can't win the division. If you can't win the division,

1068
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: you can't win the conference. If you can't win the conference,

1069
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: you can't make the playoff. And if you can't make

1070
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: the playoff, you can't be national champion, which to me

1071
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: is still the standard. If that's changed and all the

1072
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Michigan fan base wants to vote on good enough is

1073
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: good enough, then make sure you include me on the

1074
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: memo so I can get rid of my Michigan paraphernalia. Wow,

1075
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: Because it's not good enough? What better time to start?

1076
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: Because I tell you right now, I've seen rerun after

1077
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: rerun after rerun with the same characters, the same plot lines,

1078
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: and I'm about Marvel sequeled out. You know what I

1079
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: need to see this weekend? You know I want to

1080
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: see this weekend? Jay, I want to see some Quentin

1081
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: Tarantino freshness. I need Jim Harball this weekend to go

1082
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: full Tarantino and give us some freshness. Wow, because you

1083
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: guarantina I love it. Get busy beating your rival, or

1084
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: you just pull a Notre Dame and say we're not

1085
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna play it anymore. Good top that, Blaine. Oh well,

1086
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you guys? If anything, I'm agreeing

1087
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: with y'all. It's just I feel like we're talking relevancy

1088
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: really for the best rivalry game the best I think

1089
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: relevancy to a certain extent matters, right, And I think

1090
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: in state is huge, right, Like, you can go to Walmart,

1091
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: right and there's Auburn and Alabama get it right next

1092
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: to each other, soid like you walk outside like it's

1093
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: your best friends. That's so that's one thing that I'm

1094
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: still not fully convinced. She to me, I'm still not

1095
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: fully convinced that the in state portion of this is

1096
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: more vitriolic than a cross state because well, let me

1097
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: just say this quick. I mean, at the end of

1098
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: the day, Auburn Alabama hate each other, but you're still Alabamians, right,

1099
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: Whereas when you draw a borderline between two states, or

1100
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: two people or two whatever, there really is no ceiling

1101
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: for that level of hate. But I can see the

1102
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: other side of it being argued, and it really was

1103
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: not that important from the point I wanted to make,

1104
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: even though I'm still not fully convinced that that necessarily

1105
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: is the deciding factor. I honestly think what we talked

1106
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: about before the postseason implications, because like you said before,

1107
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: that's what has made this last decade so much fun

1108
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: to watch. On the Auburn standpoint, I think the winner

1109
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: of that game has played in like eight national has

1110
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: represented eight national championships. Yeah, and that's more important to me. Well,

1111
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing importance when we're debating which factors make

1112
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the rivalry you know, better than the other. I mean,

1113
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: there's probably three or four base factors that we can

1114
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: look at. But my argument with the end state thing

1115
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: is that with boundaries and borders, you got somewhere to go,

1116
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: Like you you if it's going in and you can

1117
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: hate each other and hating each other and there's respect,

1118
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in both of these robberies. When's the

1119
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: last time you saw a brawl in the Michigan Ohio

1120
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: State game or a brawl in the Auburn Alabama game.

1121
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: When's the last time? I mean Michigan House say, I

1122
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: am I forgetting one that they always chirp at the beginning. Yeah,

1123
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like the Hey, you know South Carolina Clemson,

1124
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Like guys are throwing helmets and stopping each other out

1125
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: there's not because you know, in the Iron Bowl, just

1126
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: like in Michigan and Ohise say, a lot of these

1127
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: guys grew up playing against each other. Now, to me,

1128
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: it's a little more regional in Auburn, Alabama because it

1129
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: is the same state. Therefore, the localities are going to

1130
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: be closer. But it's different when you're mad at somebody.

1131
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: You can respect somebody and still be competitive and mad

1132
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: with them, but you can't leave them. There is no

1133
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to my side of the street.

1134
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: You go to your side of the street. We'll talk

1135
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: trash to all our friends about each other and this,

1136
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: that and the other. You can't escape it. Yeah, yeah,

1137
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: and I get it. I get that means a lot,

1138
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: But it means less to me than the number thirty

1139
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty because you know what that is, Jay,

1140
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: three thousand, six hundred and fifty. That's how many days

1141
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: it's been since Michigan beat Ohio. Has to change. My

1142
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: argument isn't is that more important? My argument is when

1143
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: you're comparing the vitriol between Auburn Alabama and Michigan Ohio State,

1144
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: my argument isn't the importance of winning because without winning.

1145
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: It's not a rivalry. It's it's kind it's a tradition

1146
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: and traditional ass beating is what it is like, it's

1147
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: not a rivalry. For it to be a rivalry, the

1148
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: other team has to win some of the time. And

1149
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think you you so eloquently put it

1150
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: about as good as you can put it. Let me

1151
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: tell you the saddest part. Kirk Herbstreet and I have

1152
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: talked about this several times, and I've heard this from

1153
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: other Ohio fans too, which is basically, we want Michigan

1154
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: to win one occasionally so that this remains the greatest

1155
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: rivalry in sports. Whenever fans of your rival are saying

1156
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: we want you all to get one, it's yeah, that

1157
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: is well, it's like the parents. There's a difference between

1158
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: them being mad at you and then disappointed. Sounds like, oh,

1159
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: they just wants to feel something again. No, seriously, I

1160
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: mean we were talking I was talking about with a

1161
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: kid who's from Ohio and he's like, look, it's even

1162
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: worse for me because I'm from Ohio. Yeah, you know,

1163
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: I understand states the field. It was the thing about,

1164
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: say if it's the best, if you want to compare

1165
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: it to the best, right, I feel the relevancy of

1166
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: like wins of Lately as the matter right in the

1167
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: same span, that same span the Ohiose State when fifteen

1168
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: and sixteen, I think, the same sixteen years span, I

1169
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: think Auburn some magical way when eight and eight in

1170
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: Alabama and the Iron Bowl. So State fans just want

1171
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: to feel so well, they're not. They're not. Sixteen year window. Yeah,

1172
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: fifteen to sixteen both album and R and eight and eight. Now,

1173
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why that hit me. If we're having

1174
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: to toelly different conversations over here, that just that was

1175
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: hilarious to me. But no, look and again I agree

1176
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: with them though. I mean, and we always talk about

1177
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: being college football purists, right, that's what we are. I

1178
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: want the Miami four to stay rivalry to be great.

1179
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: I want the Ohio State Michigan rivalry to be great.

1180
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: I want USC UCLA to be great. I want sclsu Verse,

1181
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, Lafayette or whoever to be great. I want

1182
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: all the rivalries to be as good as they possibly

1183
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: can because it makes the game better. So when you're

1184
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: comparing these things, Cone, I mean, I agree with everything

1185
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: that you said. And you know, if I didn't agree

1186
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: with you, I'd tell you, yeah, I agree with everything

1187
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: you said. Look, we sit here on the precipice of

1188
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: a rivalry weekend right where everything Michigan wants is right

1189
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: there for the taking. And it is much better to

1190
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: be having this conversation sitting at ten and one with

1191
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: your rival coming to your place with an opportunity to

1192
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: make history, which would be for Jim Harball to make

1193
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: the conference championship, win it, and then could make the playoff.

1194
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: We sit on the precipice and that's a lot better

1195
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: than conversations we've been having before. But like you said,

1196
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: last year can't be forgotten. And I don't know what

1197
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation is or was, but the

1198
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: perception is that they ducked Ohio. They want to go

1199
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: down there and get beat. Okay, So what I'm saying,

1200
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: like you all know, because Auburn is kind of down

1201
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: right now, given up the last couple of games, all

1202
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: can be forgiven this week, right, There's a lot out

1203
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: there for the taste of the golden There's a lot

1204
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: of coach, but I'm sequeled out. Yeah, Look, eventually I

1205
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: just stopped believing you. It's like it's like the shows

1206
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: on Netflix. After like season three, you start reaching you

1207
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: can only watch Iron Man so many times. That's exactly right,

1208
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: you know you can. You can only package it and

1209
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: change Spider Man for me nineteen times. But anyways, we

1210
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,520
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