1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Already missus the luck competition from the Chris Westling podcast studio. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and now okay, now 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get the juice. We were placed on 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: a nice little card down a nice spot on the 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: old NFL media bench for the combine. So we're back 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: here in LA for that, and I felt that. But 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: now everyone's back from Indy and free agency is on 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: the horizon, franchise tag deadlines coming up in a couple 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: of days. 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: We are now. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: Greggie on the precipice of the true New League year 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: and everything that comes. 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: With it, like as we are taping more you know, 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: veterans losing their job, which we don't like to see 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: just keep happening, or another none that are going to 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: change our lives or our rundown. But yeah, the combine 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: is a nice, like little jolt, and now here we go. 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: It is an odd event, I think, from like our 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: career perspective to be watching it states away on television 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: versus being there. And it was a different kind of 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 4: event this year with like crowds in the place going 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: literally crazy when you're used to it being kind of 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: like a golf match and so hushed in there. And 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: I did watch a lot of NFL Network. When you're there, 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: you can't really do it. And I'm not tooting our 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: own network's horn. I often don't go in the opposite direction. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: I thought they put together the most entertaining combine broadcast 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: that they've ever achieved. Wow examples, I have a few 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: examples that I can share a little later in the 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: in the show. 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: But I thought that like DJ Rich like and the atmosphere, 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: did you hit your head this week? Unders No, No, 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: I know it. 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: Sounds like I wouldn't say that kind of thing, but 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: like they, it's I think that they the goal is 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: to not be day three of the draft, where you're 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: just getting doused in data that starts to lose meaning. 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: And I thought they brought a lot of interesting context 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: in their home paid off, but it was also a 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: ton of guests and coaches more than in the past. 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, not to be a company man, but that is 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: I think it is the best thing we do. When 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: I was when I was just getting started out in 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: this industry, and when they and they put on the Combine. 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: I thought that it was like a fun football broadcast 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: for like seven or eight hours. It was good back 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: when it was Mac. It's good with this new guy. 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: I think he's going to work out. 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Now you have to complany, Jeremiah. I'd love to be 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: part of it one day. Well, that's true. 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: By the way, I don't like its shining during our 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: ap since that doesn't make a lot of sense. 55 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Had had we been at the combine, Greg, you would 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: have been in trouble because and this is I think 57 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: one of the cute little ticks about Greg. And we've 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: known Greg for a long time now, Mark, he's got 59 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: his binoculars. And then Super Bowl Sunday, when we're up 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: there in the auxiliary booth, he's got the binoculars and 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: he's all excited and it's it's cute. 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: It's adorable. Actually, I mean it's not an abnormal. 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: Kind of let's be honest, there's nobody else around us 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: using them. 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: Well, that's because we're just by ourselves. No, I'm nowhere 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: in the auxiliary. There's no reason to be. You're not 67 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: gonna wait. Do you see a lot of people taking 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: out the binocular I don't know. I think it's a class. 69 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: Maybe that's more in the regular press box may journals. 70 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: Like the first game I ever went to, I brought 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: binoculars and it was incredible, And in these days I 72 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: could use binoculars. 73 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been where you're app It makes a big difference. 74 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: So big Funk, who's on a heater right now? Because 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: as we know, Funk behind the glass, Randy Shavez brought in, Uh. 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Got you your ticket ticket Gate? Oh superlticket? Did I'll 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: never forget that. 78 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 79 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Now, Funk picks up Greggy's binoculars, which he left behind 80 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: on the set at the super Bowl over there in Vegas, 81 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: and Uh, if you want to say anything to Randy 82 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: on Mike, I feel like that, Like you're gonna play 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: cool because you don't want to act like you're too 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: attach your binoculars. But those things matter to you and 85 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: and it's Funks one that kept them in your life. 86 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: Randy is a great human being. He always cares about 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: us as humans. He cares about our pets as pets. 88 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: And I'm not surprised of all people that he. 89 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Turned that up on. I need that Funk. 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: There was a glow in Greg's eye when Funk more 91 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: like Hunk came in the room and brought the binocular. 92 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: Now that said, I mean I did pick it up 93 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: on the way to the Superdome for raving forty nine 94 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: ers Super Bowl Big Funk and I feel like the 95 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: performance level was going down that they thought maybe it 96 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: was time. 97 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: When I realized I had loss but knock. 98 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 3: Nothing left behind, it was like, why does Big Funk 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: want to do this? 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: And now I know, Big Bunk, Hey Funk, it's been 101 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: We gave you about a week and a half. 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: That's right, I think it over. 103 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: Those who listened a couple of weeks back know that 104 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: we throughout this idea. Shock Jocks a few years back 105 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: took a young and impressionable Big Funk and said, we're 106 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: gonna give you a thousand bucks and then return you're 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: gonna sell out your fandom and get a Chicago Bears 108 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: logo on your thigh even though you're a die hard 109 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Packers fan. And we the around the NFL podcast anti 110 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: shock Jock or at least those shots Jucks decided to 111 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: give you an option to a crowdsource fundraiser to get 112 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: some type of work done on that tattoo, to alterate it, 113 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: maybe remove it. 114 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. 115 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: But it was the last time we left off you 116 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: big funk had the ball in your cork, so we 117 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: didn't want to push anything on you like those shot 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: jocks once upon a time. 119 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Where where's your head at? Do you want to move 120 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: forward with a procedure or are we gonna leave it 121 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: as is? Go ahead? 122 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 6: You know, after lots of consideration, I've I think I've 123 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 6: determined that. I think I'm gonna keep it. 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna keep it up. Turn his music up. 125 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: He's going to keep it. It's hard of his hayst 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: Or read. We all walk a path we didn't force. 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: We were we were, we were freedom giving on that front. Yeah, 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: that's totally understandable. I respect that. 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: What about the idea that someone had with the Ghostbusters 130 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: sort of circle over it with an X with a 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: new tattoo, So that's keeping it but making it a 132 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: little I'm down with that, totally change that's a new version, 133 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: are you okay? 134 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: So are you down to it justin or not? 135 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 6: Ghostbusters is my favorite movie? So well, well, you don't 136 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: have it removed. 137 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: I think what he's saying is he doesn't want to remove, 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: but this idea that we're going now anti bears and 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: putting the X through it. 140 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: You would be down with that. The alter You know 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: what's funny. 142 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 6: The longest time I've said that the one thing I 143 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 6: would do was write sucks underneath. Yeah, but that sounds 144 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 6: like like a thousand. 145 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Turn it up, turn up again? How do they ever 146 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: think about that? Changing his mind? 147 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: All that, and fair enough, he was not on this 148 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: this tweet that we saw from someone. 149 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I'll show you the mock up. I think we're headed 150 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: all right. 151 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 6: Also, I I did love Dan because you you have 152 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 6: no tattoos, right, No, it was so funny because because 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 6: you you were throwing removal and ever one I've talked 154 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 6: to you that's ever gotten tattoom and says it's the 155 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 6: most painful thing I've heard that, and it's like incredibly expensive. 156 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: So I was like, I was like, I can't do removal. 157 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a pretty big tattoo. It's it's yeah, it's 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: it's sizable. 159 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: To to the credit of our and I'm not surprised 160 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: our listeners like on the glorious subreddit and check that, 161 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: check that environment out. 162 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: It could be more pristine. It's uh. 163 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: They had hundreds of suggestions and ideas and concepts of 164 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: what he could do or how he could solve the 165 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: problem or alter it and. 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: Say, all right, get us, get us a price quote right, 167 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: sounds good, getting that brass quote. 168 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Found the best deal of the work with someone. Wrap 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: your bowl? 170 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 7: All right? 171 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: Progress made? Are you mark? What is these looks? We're 172 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: we're doing important work here? 173 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: For what did? What did I do? You keep shooting 174 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: glances at Greg? 175 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: I like to look at Greg during the show on occasion, 176 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: I guess I missed it because. 177 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: It was not and I couldn't. 178 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: I couldn't be more excited about how the show was opened, 179 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: and I noted that the listeners were very involved, and 180 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: it's in a testament to them. 181 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 182 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: And I had to even have a suggestion maybe of 183 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: the tattoo artist. But we'll get to that off. 184 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot to get to. 185 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, with the combine in the rear view mirror, 186 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a guest coming by. 187 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Because you know, we do our best. We we do 188 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: our work, but we know where our limitations are. 189 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: And when you're looking at prospects coming into the league, 190 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: you want to get somebody that really is an expert 191 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: in this Realm, and Danny Kelly, who does great stuff 192 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: with the Ringer and has a big time podcast, fantasy podcast, 193 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: but really knows his stuff, and this Realm is gonna 194 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: come on a little bit later and talk with us 195 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: about what he saw some takeaways. We're going to share 196 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: some of our own takeaways from over the weekend. 197 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: But before that, let's do some news. Hey, good, Connor, 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: how are you good? 199 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have no no, we just we won 200 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: a lot more games than what he predicted us. 201 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's for two. I haven't hanging up. I 202 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: haven't hang it up in more. Yeah. Oh no, oh 203 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: no ah. 204 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: That is from the Buccaneers social media and Connor or 205 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: you may recall one of his buzziest off season stories 206 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: he writes, is he I think he read he picks 207 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: every game and then has final record picks for every team, 208 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: which you know can go disastrously. 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the Patriots going to like the AFC 210 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: title game. Well, he likes to do it. It likes 211 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of spice in there. 212 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: Yet, so obviously he was and I was with him, 213 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: maybe not two and fifteen with Connor, but I didn't 214 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: think the Bucks. 215 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Were a playoff. You went under on their over under. 216 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jason light remembers the general manager and what 217 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: you heard just there is a nice little combine. 218 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: That's the fun stuff. 219 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: At the comment you start mixing up the journals with 220 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: the coaches and the gms. 221 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Well. 222 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: Connor also famously, back when it was a quieter environment, 223 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: was in this, you know during the tryouts in the 224 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: forties down by the you know, right on the and 225 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 4: the edge of where the seats were, and made some 226 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 4: sort of an noise or or disturbance. Were like a 227 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: fill in the blank, like Timer guy from the Steelers, 228 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: I believe tourrounds, Like, dude, stop making noise. I'm trying 229 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: to lay concentrats like Connor's always uh, he's combinding it up. 230 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: I do remember that, and I do like I got 231 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: I have to preface this. Connor handled the whole interaction 232 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: well you should check it out on uh. 233 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: And like didn't have a bad vibe about it. He 234 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: kind of jabbed out, Yeah, it was a jab It 235 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: was all fun. 236 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: But he did tell the social department of the Buccaneers, hey, 237 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: let's come do this. That wasn't by mistake, So that 238 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: that was that was fun. It was next level. He 239 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 3: had a little idea for some content. Give give the 240 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: GM some credit for that, or the social team had 241 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: some idea for some content and they went and executed. 242 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: And Connor. Connor's big boy, you can hold his own 243 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: as well. 244 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: So I think I'm sure the interaction from that point 245 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: onward went well. So, you know what, everyone's competitive, like 246 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't get you know, in the sports even the 247 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: sports media, everyone's competitive. 248 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: But the GMS they. 249 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Read all that stuff even when they say they don't, Yeah, 250 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: they at all, or it's brought to them or it 251 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: gets to them somehow, So you know, believe that in 252 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: his office. 253 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. All right, why don't we start with 254 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. That's good. How it worked out. Cool. Mike Evans, 255 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. 256 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: He signs a two year, fifty two million dollar contract 257 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: which includes thirty five million in guaranteed money, to remain 258 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: with the Bucks, the only team that he has ever 259 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: known in the NFL. He's been ten years in the league, 260 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: and I thought about this is interesting to me. 261 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Ten years in the league for Mike Evans. 262 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: I've talked about Texas with Nick Wesley about this, and 263 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: he's like he's a superstars. Before last year, which was 264 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: a great season for Evans, and I said, I always 265 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: felt he was just a touch below. And I don't 266 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: know if he's ever been in all Pro Greg you 267 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: can now I know he's been a Pro bowler five times. 268 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: He's he has a historic start to his career ten years, 269 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: ten one thousand yard seasons, and sometimes it feels like, 270 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: despite his incredibly consistent, unique production, he flies a little 271 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: bit under the radar. But here is an example of 272 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: it paying off for him, this consistency. Maybe he doesn't 273 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: get brought up in the same breath as the greatest 274 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: wide receivers of his generation, Mark, but to get this 275 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: type of contract this far into his career, it doesn't 276 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: happen unless you do something truly historic, which is what 277 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: he's done. Doesn't matter who the quarterback is. He's done 278 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: it with Tom Brady, He's done it with Baker Mayfield. 279 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: He's done it with who's the guy with the really 280 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: long neck, remember that guy, Mike Glennon, Jameis Winston. He's 281 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: done it with them, all the good, the bad, the greatest, 282 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: and he's rewarded for that consistency with this deal. 283 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been QB proof and you know, I think 284 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: if you go and look at Baker Mayfield season and 285 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: you know, major comeback campaign, a lot of it has 286 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: to do with Evans and how consistent Evans wants after 287 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 4: a bit of a strange campaign with Tom. 288 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Brady the year before. 289 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: And I think you're right if you look at the 290 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: age and if his production were hot and cold, or 291 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: he was an every other year type of guy, you 292 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 4: wonder if he floats off somewhere else. 293 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: But I think the Bucks it was, It's what needed 294 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: to happen. 295 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: I think also the second part of this is like Evans, 296 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: the Worlds reporting that Evan said he wanted to play 297 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: with the premier quarterback. He wanted to be on a 298 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: team that could compete. That's that is the case with 299 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 4: the Bucks as a competitive team. Baker Mayfield cannot float 300 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: away in this. It's almost like the Bucks and Jason 301 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: Light have to They can't lose the Baker Mayfield derby 302 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: here without another plan because Kyle Trask and John Woolford 303 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: are not premier quarterbacks. 304 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: Right and they don't have a high draft pick, and 305 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: you know they haven't been mentioned in the Kirk Cousins 306 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: sweep steak, so though they'd make a little sense, I 307 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 3: think Baker's most likely out come. We'll get to that 308 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: twenty six million dollars. This wide receiver market is not 309 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: coming down. I've heard it posited by people that I 310 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: usually agree with all the time that says, like all 311 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: these receivers coming into the league, like it always works, 312 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: and you know, there's so many great wide receivers, like 313 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: this wide receiver mark is going to cool down. It's like, no, 314 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: there's actually still not enough. I can think of so 315 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: many teams where they don't have enough wide receivers. Passing 316 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: game is the most important. Offense is the most important. 317 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: It's gonna go up, up and up. I was wrong. 318 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: He was second team All Pro two different times. 319 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: This guy. 320 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: Now they've added a slot receiver too, which is nice. 321 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: So six guys get it. And I like that to 322 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: his second team two times, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty three. 323 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: Incredible consistency. 324 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: I know, like Fantasy points isn't like the best way 325 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: to measure receivers, but I. 326 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Think it does that point something. 327 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: Now if you give him half point per reception yards touchdowns, 328 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: He's been top fifteen in Fantasy eight out of his 329 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: out of his ten years, and the other two he 330 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: was top twenty five. 331 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Like that. 332 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. That's a top fifteen receiver. But I 333 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: give him credit. A lot of players say they want 334 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: to stay at one place, they want to do this 335 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: or that. I think I believe he took a somewhat 336 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: of a hometown discount here to stay. He told his agent, 337 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: just get the deal done with Tampa. At this point, 338 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: I think he would have gotten more guaranteed money. The 339 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 3: second year is not fully guaranteed. It's like half guaranteed. 340 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: Like I think if he went out there, he would 341 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: have made even more. Now how much more. It probably 342 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: would have been like that much more. But he's putting 343 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: his money where his mouth is. I think he said, like, 344 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: just get the best possible deal with Tampa. I don't 345 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: want to deal with it. And credit to him that 346 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: that's smart. 347 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, being comfortable and where he lives with his family, 348 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: and then the fan base that loves him and just 349 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: the familiarity of that team. 350 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: That all makes sense. It's a very human decision, all right. 351 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of Baker NFL Networks, James Palmer Bud believes the 352 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: Falcons are a quote dark Horse to sign Baker Mayfield. 353 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: So Baker is not getting the franchise tag from the Bucks. 354 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: That deadline's Thursday. Correct, it's Tuesday, Tuesday tomorrow. 355 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: We'll be backing update at next show, so don't expect that. 356 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: So Baker abs in a similar surprise deal like we 357 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: just saw with Evans, could hit the open market, and 358 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: the Falcons are connected to a bunch of guys greg 359 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: but Baker is one of them, and he would he 360 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: would represent an upgrade over what they had last year. 361 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: I still think they need to swing a little bigger 362 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: after the last few years how they've handled the quarterback position. 363 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: But it's good for Baker. He's got a market. 364 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: I keep seeing different reporters have different variations of these 365 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: Baker reports, which is interesting coming out of Indianapolis. The 366 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: agent's doing his work, but I don't just dispute it. 367 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah said the Patriots might be in on Baker. 368 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: Jeremy Fowler threw out there that the Falcons are going 369 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: to get one of these guys, basically Cousins, Fields or Baker, 370 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: and it's going to be is going to end up 371 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: being one of these three. And so now Tampa who 372 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: I think is still the most likely outcome for Baker 373 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: has competition and he's going to cost a lot. And 374 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: I was wrong, I believe to say a month and 375 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: a half ago that I didn't think he was going 376 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: to get the geno type contract. If he's got multiple 377 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: teams bidding on him to become a starter, he is 378 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: getting the geno type contract. 379 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Maybe a little more, we'll see. I think that'll be 380 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: about what he gets. 381 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that it just seems logical and 382 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: clear that Cousins is the first chip to fall and 383 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: then and Baker has to be seen by someone like 384 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: Atlanta as like a very solid fallback option versus having 385 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: no option. 386 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't think unless the Bucks just get it done first. 387 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: It adds urgency to what Tampa's how they got a 388 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: organized and I think that that's why the Evan thing's happened, 389 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: Like Baker could be next. 390 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: I do think in New England. 391 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: It's interesting that Alex van Pelt, who I think was 392 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: a low wattage higher his offensive coordinator, worked with Baker 393 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 4: in Cleveland and like knows. 394 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Him very well. 395 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: It has to be behind the scenes, you know, suggesting 396 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: this guy can do it. 397 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Yes, bring Baker to New England there. I don't wow that. 398 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: I know they have one hundred million dollars in Casspae, 399 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: So get the guy when he's on the one year, 400 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: three million dollar contract, not the next thing. 401 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: It's just sart of obvious. Right when I woke up 402 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: this morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous, all right. 403 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: So Yes Graziano of ESPN and also Jeremy Fowler put 404 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: out an article this morning sharing all their kind of 405 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: whispers and all the conversations they heard that Greg just 406 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: shared one of those nugs about the Falcons game plan 407 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: with the veteran quarterback. Grazian also reported in that piece 408 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: that the quote top QB solution for the Falcons is 409 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins should he reach for free agency. And the 410 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Cousin's free agency situation is very interesting because the Vikings, 411 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: from what you're hearing out there, do want him back, 412 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: but they also have a very complex or they have 413 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: a vision of how they want to handle this offseason. 414 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: And number one is Justin Jefferson. And if top wide 415 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: receivers beneath Jefferson are getting like twenty five to twenty 416 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: eight million, you know, Justin Jefferson's gonna get thirty to 417 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: thirty five, right, So Kirk Cousins has to agree to 418 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: a deal that fits within the framework of their ability 419 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: to really build a team around Cousins and Jefferson without 420 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: maxing everything out. 421 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: So they're kind of in a tough spot. 422 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: But Cousins, ever the great businessman, Mark doesn't sound like 423 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: he's looking to give any type of homecount hometown discount 424 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: to Minnesota, which means it could get to the point 425 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: where he is fielding offers and he's going to get 426 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: paid either way. 427 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: Again, a lot of them. He find. 428 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 4: He has a special talent to hit the market at 429 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: a time that seems to benefit him in many many ways. 430 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: I mean, and like Evans, consistently produce and put himself in. 431 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: A gain leverage. 432 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: I think I think that people I think Cousins is 433 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: very well liked throughout the league. You keep here that 434 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: and I think that there are, more so than in 435 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: years past, a higher belief that he could come in 436 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: and take a Falcons team and take them to the 437 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: next level. The reporting from Graziano was also that Cousins 438 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: has a very specific idea on quotes about what he 439 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: wants and that the Vikings so far have been unwilling 440 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: to match it. I do think Kevin O'Connell on NFL Network, 441 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: it came out very strongly suggesting like I think we're 442 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 4: gonna get I think we can get this done. Like 443 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: I think that Kevin O'Connell came to Minnesota largely because 444 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: of Kirk Cousins and is a huge proponent. And if 445 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: you're the Vikings, I know it's been a bit of 446 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: a rebuild in terms of like terms of. 447 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Their cap and stuff. 448 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: It's like you lose Kirk Cousins, you're the team suddenly 449 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: wondering what is happening at the most important position. 450 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: It's hard to know which one, you know, which of 451 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 3: these reports to like put a lot of stock in it, 452 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: But I thought this one was worth it because hearing 453 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: that about the Falcons, it actually does make sense. I 454 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: just there's something about this whole thing with the Vikings 455 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: that to me, I feel like they're gonna be okay, 456 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: letting Kirk walk. If some team actually blows the doors 457 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: up in a huge contract, and I think that could 458 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: be the Falcons, they are the team that makes sense. 459 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: And you're hearing all this stuff that the dustin Fields 460 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: market isn't that great that he's kind of going to 461 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: be the backup plan maybe for a lot of these teams, 462 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: and the Falcons and maybe the Broncos, although they haven't 463 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: been mentioned to me, do feel like the one team 464 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: that could just put the money on the table and 465 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: that Minnesota's like, all right, we'll see you. We'll find 466 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: out in a week. It'll probably be about one week 467 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: from this time on Monday that we know. 468 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: I'd be curious that maybe the something to check out 469 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: ahead of next show. But how many teams currently have 470 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: the setup and are successful teams with a quarterback on 471 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: a top tier salary and a wide receiver on a 472 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: top tier salary. That's so much of your cap tied 473 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: up to two guys and it makes it very difficult 474 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: to build a balanced roster. 475 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: One little note that not too long ago today on 476 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 4: the Pat McAfee show, Schefter also mentioned that maybe the 477 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: Commanders could jump in on the Kirk Cousins thing. They're 478 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: kind of open where they sit, They're kind of open 479 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: taking a couple of different. 480 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: The ultimate like we're no longer Dan Snyder move and 481 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: we're just a new franchise. 482 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys, they're another one of those teams. See 483 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: they're trying to figure it out. They got Dak making 484 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: all this money, they got Ceedee Lamb's contract coming up, 485 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: and then they go, all right, we got to have 486 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: a functional defense and Mike oh Parsons and then we've 487 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: got to get the offensive tackles taking care of one 488 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: of them. Tyron Smith, according to rap Sheet, is quote 489 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: unlikely to return to the Cowboys next season. And I 490 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: think that's less about his ability. Even though he's thirty three, 491 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: he's still very competent tackle. But it's all about Greg 492 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: gave that big picture with them and all the money 493 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: that they're they have to dole out. Are you gonna 494 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: really give a top of the market left tackle salary 495 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: to Tyron Smith when you got the QB and the 496 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: linebacker and the wide receiver all hanging out. 497 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: There, right. 498 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: I think that's rap Sheet hearing through the grapevine what 499 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: Tyron Smith's market was gonna be at the combine, and 500 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: the Cowboys realized, like, oh, we actually got him to 501 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: take a pay cut last year because he kept getting hurt, 502 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: and now he's gonna make twenty million dollars a year 503 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and we're just out and he he's 504 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: hitting free agency at a perfect time. I mean, any 505 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: tackle would be, but there's literally no one else like 506 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: Michael Owenu who's bounced around guard and tackle. Is a 507 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: nice young player, but like there aren't any good like 508 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: high level starting left tackles. 509 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: So he is here. 510 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: He must know already he has a contract offers from 511 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: certain teams and the Cowboys. 512 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: And certain It's gotta be a bit of a tough 513 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 4: pill to swallow because the vibe I get from everything 514 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: Dallas is saying and that's just Jerry Jones basically is 515 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 4: like it is just it's kind of a super Bowl 516 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: or Bust all over again, and like these players are 517 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: not easy to replace. Although it isn't pretty interesting. Draft 518 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: class at tackle, guard and other line. 519 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: Is very deep. 520 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: We'll get to that, but yeah, it's the tackles and 521 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: the receivers, which they say are the deepest here. 522 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: Uh buying to us In other news, you know how 523 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: as well, Mike Darren Waller. Weird career for Darren Waller, 524 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: who is currently with the Giants after his first season 525 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: went in a disappointing injury riddled manner. You could about 526 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: the last few seasons for Waller after he was briefly 527 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: one of the most productive tight ends in football. 528 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: There is a report out there. 529 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: There was previously a report out there that Darren Waller, 530 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: despite being I think he's run thirty or thirty one 531 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: and thirty, he's turning thirty two. He's thirty one now, 532 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: I believe, And there was a report that he was 533 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: indeed coming back to the Giants for another season. But 534 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: now an update to that report in the New York 535 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: Post is that Waller is still undecided on whether he 536 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: will continue playing or opt to retire. Giants to give 537 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: up a third round pick mark for Waller, and I'm 538 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: guessing they wish they didn't do that. 539 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean last offseason for the Giants was 540 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: riddled with curious decisions coming off a Coach of the 541 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: Year campaign. 542 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: It's just like they hurt themselves in multiple ways. 543 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: I think we kept saying that the X factor for 544 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: New York was like which version of Waller you get? 545 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: He had his lowest yards per reception of his entire career, 546 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: and I think that offense also, you know, went through 547 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: quarterback hell, and I think him not being around next 548 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: season would not change their fortune. 549 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: I mean twenty twenty is hindsight too, right, like it 550 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: it made sense when they made the trade I used 551 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: to talk about all last summer. 552 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: I never got a. 553 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Great vite about Darren Waller and the Giants for some reason, right, 554 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: And sure enough it didn't go well. 555 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: But I feel like you. 556 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: Didn't get a great vibe from him when he came 557 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: in to do the broadcasting boot camp. 558 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: He seems either a wandering spirit a bit, but I 559 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: think that it almost is. 560 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: I don't think that performance is informative of what's going 561 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: on here, but if a media yeah, but if I'm 562 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: hearing that he's not that into playing next year, and 563 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: it might be a physical thing too. I'm surprised that 564 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: the Giants have been publicly saying like, oh no, we 565 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: want them, We're keeping him, we're not cutting them, because 566 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: they would actually say with a post June first cut, 567 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: eleven point six million dollars in cap savings. But it 568 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: goes back to a cliche I say at this time 569 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: of year, which is like, it's a lot easier to 570 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: find cap space than is good players, and I guess 571 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: they just feel like they really need some good players. 572 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: But if he's not that into I don't know. 573 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Maybe lets and once you know this, this happens in 574 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: every sport, Like he got he got the big contract, 575 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: and he's never been close to the same guy. He's 576 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: been hurt a lot too, and there's been questions about 577 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: his desire and you. 578 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Know it's it's not somebody you typically want to go 579 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to war with. 580 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 4: Oh, I would like to know that, like the actual 581 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: health situation though, because that could be driving most of this. 582 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: If you just don't feel like you can be what 583 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: you were, it's. 584 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: A lot of soft tissue injuries. I feel like that 585 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: he's I mean he felt with yeah, to pass on. 586 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: Eleven twelve million dollars just because you're done that, Uh, 587 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: that says a lot. 588 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: Well, you seemed to pass on mark and ized wisdom 589 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: in that conference room, but we. 590 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: Also had to you know, course correct our own presentation. 591 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: Between not quite worth twelve million dollars. Though maybe you're 592 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: the type of guy that that tweeted out is like 593 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: we would you rather have one million dollars or one 594 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: hour to pick jay z brain? Jay Z's brain, I'm 595 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: taking the hour. It's like, no, take the money. 596 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: It was around the second seminar presentation where I did 597 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: consider jumping out the window. 598 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: That's what I recall. 599 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 4: You were put through a test, and you know Greg Escape, 600 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: Scott Freed, where were you on. 601 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: Skipping through Japan holiday, skipping through Tokyo hand in hand 602 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: with his beautiful wife in other news? 603 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I don't know what's going on 604 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: in Tokyo with Greg. 605 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: Now that I think that time, I think it was Hawaii. 606 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: I think it was Hawaii. But yeah, that could be wrong. 607 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones is a Packer's running back. He's twenty nine 608 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, good and bad, twenty twenty three, but overall, 609 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: you know, a very productive player in his time with 610 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: the team. If he is going to stay with the Packers, 611 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: it's very likely he is going to. 612 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: They need to take a pay cut for what it's worth. 613 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: Matt Schneinman reported that Bryan Glutagans, the general manager, said 614 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: the team quote absolutely expects Rogers to be there. 615 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: And that makes sense to me because look at the 616 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: Jones to be there. 617 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: Expects Aaron Jones to be there, because look at this, 618 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: look at the running back market, look at all these 619 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 2: big names in free agency, and you kind of get 620 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: the feeling outside of maybe Barkley. 621 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: They're all going to struggle to get the money they want. 622 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: So Jones is not going to want to re enter 623 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: that phrase, want to play out his contract because a 624 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: four year, forty eight million dollar deal he signed in 625 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. 626 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: He's entering the final year. 627 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: So even with the haircut, probably going to do a 628 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: lot better than he would do on the open mark. 629 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: That's something that's changed in just the last few years 630 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: where if you saw the report that they will cut 631 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: him if he doesn't take a pay cut, that guy 632 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: almost always used to get cut, and now like Joe 633 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: Mixon is a good example last year. Now when those 634 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: reports come out, and especially at running back, you're probably 635 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: right if he can make more with them. 636 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: The Milwaukee Journal sent and also reported that they're not 637 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: looking to bring back AJ Dillon. So if Jones goes, 638 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 4: AJ Dillon goes, it's not the greatest draft for running 639 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: backs by any stretch. 640 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Like that's going to look very different. 641 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: I think Jones when he was on the field, they 642 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: were much better offense. 643 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: He finished very strong. 644 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and we'll continue through 645 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: the news. 646 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: All right, we're back in other news. 647 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: The forty nine ers have found their new defensive coordinator. 648 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: It is an in house move and it is Nick 649 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Sorenson who will be promoted. He was the team's defensive 650 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: pass game specialist and nickel cornerback's coach. He takes over 651 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: for Steve Wilkes, who was dismissed last month. They also 652 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: are hiring former Chargers coach Brandon Staley as an assistant 653 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: head coach. So you're going to two head monster this thing, 654 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: I guess Mark with Staley behind Sorenson. 655 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: Well, so Staley is replacing essentially the same position by 656 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: another ex Chargers coach, Anthony Lynn, who left to go 657 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: to the Commanders. 658 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: I think this just is what happened. 659 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: This is one of the least surprising hires in terms 660 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: of Kyle Shanahan deciding I'm absolutely picking from my in 661 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: house crew because you know, Wilkes it didn't work, and 662 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it seemed like the energy 663 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: around it that just not seeing an eye to eye 664 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: and maybe the way the Niners want to do things. 665 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: Like Sorenson, who is a longtime tea Carrol protege underneath 666 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: you know it for years ago, has been with San 667 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: Francisco for a while. 668 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: He's done a lot different things as a player and 669 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: a coach, and it's like. 670 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: Cool makes some juice, sye the juicy side of this. 671 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: In that same Graziano Fowler right up. Sources say the 672 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers explored the possibility of hiring Steve Spagnolo 673 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: away from the Chiefs for their DC position shortly after 674 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: their loss to Kansas City in the Super Bowl. But 675 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: then the Chiefs very quietly gave Spags a new deal 676 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: that is reportedly worth five million wow, which is big 677 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 2: wop for a coordinator, but interesting that the old if 678 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: you can't beat him, join a move was on the 679 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: radar for Lynch and Shanna. 680 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: Well they helped get him paid. Nothing wrong with that. 681 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: He's got gotta be the highest paid coordinator in NFL history, 682 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: which which. 683 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: Quinn I thought was getting what three or four last year, 684 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: and that was said to. 685 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: Be It would make sense if someone was going to 686 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: be it would be the guy coming off two straight 687 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowl titles and he's. 688 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Not going to get a job like a head coaching job. Yeah, 689 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: you better pay him like that. 690 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: In other news, let's spin through this all right, Greg 691 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 2: set it up. The competition committee, Oh my gosh, they 692 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: are proposing some dramatic changes to the kickoff. We've talked 693 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: about the kickoff and how it's kind of a wasted 694 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: play right now, Greg, you talked about getting rid of 695 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: it entirely. 696 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think so, Greg. I think it's football. 697 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: It's got to be involved somehow. What is this pitch? 698 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: What is this idea to fix the play? 699 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: We'll like dive into this more in late March. But 700 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: the fact that the Competition committee is who's putting up there. 701 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: There's two different ways rules can get suggested. One a 702 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 3: team can just suggest it and it's like, Okay, that's 703 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: an idea. We'll see everyone's going to vote for it. 704 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: They have this idea of only doing on side kicks 705 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: if you're trailing in the fourth court, Like, we'll see 706 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: if that happens. That's a team because when it's from 707 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: the competition COMMUTEE, they're already into it. They're trying to 708 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: make it happen. In the XFL model, who was which 709 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: was created by former TNF Recap guest Sam Schwarztein who's 710 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: on Amazon Prime as the next Gen stets guy, and 711 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: I had no idea. He created the rule book for 712 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: the x L back in the day, which is kind 713 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: of crazy for me. 714 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: He had the rule where the balls at the fifty 715 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: yard line and people sprint from opposite ends. 716 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: So that's that is essentially the rule the ACL destroyer. 717 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: No not not that the kicker lines up at his 718 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: own thirty yard line and ten members of the kickoff 719 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: team line up at the opponent's thirty five, five yards 720 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: away from the returning team's block. Only the kicker and 721 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: one returner allowed to move before the ball is that. 722 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: You kind of just got to watch it to see 723 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: it's different. But it would result in a lot more kickoffs. 724 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: In fact, I think the majority of kickoffs would be 725 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: returned because otherwise it goes to the thirty five. 726 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Which is great. I don't I don't. I need to 727 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: study this one. Maybe they, but it seems to be 728 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: messing with you a little bit. But maybe they. 729 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: Maybe this was prompted to some degree by your calls 730 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: for it just to disappear entirely during our supo. 731 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: That's what did it. Good way to look at it. 732 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: You know, Bill Belichick was with EGO and he was like, 733 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: either do it or kill it. 734 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: That was that was his idea, do it or kill it. 735 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: Quick cuts and then we gotta get it going here. 736 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: The Vikings cut ties with Alexander Madison. They're running back, 737 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: so a year after Davin Couko is now Madison is 738 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: out the door as well. The Patriots say goodbye again 739 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: to J. C. Jackson, whose career has turned into a 740 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: bit of an odyssey. Washington cuts ties with Logan Thomas 741 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: Charles Leno, The Eagles say goodbye to Buyard Kevin Byard, 742 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: and the Saints cut safety Marcus May and one other 743 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: transaction Jason Kelsey, yes indeed, is retiring the Eagles veteran center, 744 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: a mainstay as stalwart and now a media star. We'll 745 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: be able to focus on other endeavors, also our competition. 746 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: We got the old iHeart Radio Podcast Awards coming up 747 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: next week in Austin, Texas. Will be there and they 748 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: are in the same category as US, which is troubling 749 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: with all this swift, little bit troubling. 750 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: But right now he's coming off maybe the little bit 751 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: of nuclear hot right now. Right you said, Mark was 752 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: maybe the best retirement speech you've ever seen. 753 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: It was the longest, and I so I saw many 754 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: portions of it walking around the building here. 755 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: I'd thought he did a great job. All right, let's 756 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: listen times. 757 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 5: Why did I choose football? What drew me to the game? 758 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: And I never have an answer that gets it right. 759 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: The best way I can explain it is what draws 760 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 5: you to your favorite song, your favorite book. It's what 761 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 5: it makes you feel. The seriousness of it, the intensity 762 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: of it. Stepping on the field was the most alive 763 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: and free I had ever felt. There was a visceral 764 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: feeling with football, and like any other sport, the hairs 765 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: on my arms would stand up. I get hit somebody, 766 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 5: run around like a crazy lunatic, and then get told 767 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 5: good job. I love football. 768 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: Nice. I feel like Wes would have loved that. Also. 769 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: I like they show up in a sleeveless T shirt. 770 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: You know some guys wear that's done up, but he's 771 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: that's on brand. That's a that's a big some big 772 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: shoes to fill. 773 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: Well, little game nugget like the tush push is not 774 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: going to be the same without. 775 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that would Hires get him. Yeah, that's big. 776 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean he he kind of changed the game in 777 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: terms of like I think teams look for more Jason 778 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 3: Kelsey types at center. The quickness of the athleticism he's 779 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: going to wind up being a Hall of Fame. Where 780 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: he talked about how when essentially the Chip Kelly years, 781 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: he almost thought he was going to get out. He 782 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 3: was of Philadelphia, his his coach believed in him. 783 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: We do. 784 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,479 Speaker 3: I think Eric also have him talking about the most 785 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: famous play in Eagles history. 786 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 5: I won't forget Nick Foles having the game of his 787 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: life on the biggest stage possible and the biggest on 788 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: the team, going up to Doug Peterson and asking for 789 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 5: the Philly Special and Doug Peterson having the biggest balls 790 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 5: in the stadium. 791 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: Do it say it. 792 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 5: To say, yeah, let's do it. 793 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: That's nice. 794 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: One of the one of the most memorable plays in 795 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl history, the most, like second most, the most 796 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: top ten number one. 797 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: It is kind of crazy. How you lost that on 798 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 3: the sandwich is so close years ago. 799 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: If you would have said top ten, it's not crazy, 800 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 4: it's absurd. 801 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: If only it wasn't horseshoes, you know, then you would 802 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: have had. 803 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: It the most influential super Bowl play of all time. 804 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's just silly. That's incredible. It's not silly, 805 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: but it meant something to that man. 806 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: They look how much it meant, I do like that 807 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: a man sobbing there talking about balls and big that's 808 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: a great like a lot of likes breaks with tears 809 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 2: in your eyes talking about big dicks and balls. 810 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: That's that is very unbrand for that man. Something for everyone. 811 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: No one's hit hit their retirement like on this sort 812 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: of momentum, I feel like since Michael Straighthand did it well, 813 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: Like if you had told me it's going to become 814 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: like a monster media star for most of this, I 815 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't have. 816 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: Romo, but his had to go out on topic. 817 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: Playing was kind of very depressing. He broke his back. 818 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: It's funny it's Kelsey. 819 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: Well. 820 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna say went out on a title, and 821 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: I said Kelsey did too. But no, like no, he 822 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: became he kind of became a member of the Chiefs 823 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: in the last like three weeks of the season. So 824 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: I get like, I'll never forget. I think we're together, 825 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: all three of us. I think we're together. When Super 826 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday morning, when he came, we were the hotel. 827 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: He came out of the elevator and he was wearing 828 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: a onesie. It was like overall's onesie Chiefs logos all 829 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: over it and we saw him exit out the doors 830 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: and it really was like a massive celebrity with everybody 831 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: with their phones out and handlers like taking him. 832 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: To the car. Yes he is, He's going to do. 833 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: Okay, probably probably defeat us in the iHeart Awards, but 834 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: you never know. 835 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: I never know. 836 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: He replaces Kirk kurb Street on Amazon. I think that 837 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: has been suggested. Did one more clip from. 838 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: The Kelsey pressor it's just because this guy was a 839 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: pretty big talking point on the podcast for a bit 840 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 4: and he did get mentioned. 841 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: Big Dum a Hall of Famers retirement speaking give me 842 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: all the big Dom he got. 843 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: I'd like to thank Big Dom de Sandro truly the 844 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: life force of this organization. No one gives more time 845 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 5: and energy to this team. At the drop of a hat, 846 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: Dom is by your side, my family, and I give 847 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 5: our sincerest thank yous for always treating us with dignity 848 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 5: and assistance. 849 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: They just say, can I have? 850 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: And I offered a little uh to that point, a 851 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 2: little unsolicited advice. 852 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: Just hire Big Dom as the coach. 853 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: If everyone loves this guy so much, Yeah, hire him 854 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: as the coach. Build up with good assistant staff around 855 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: him to help him with the ex's and o's and 856 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: be done with it. Get Sirianni out of the building. 857 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: Can't even control himself without Big Dom there, Sirioni. It 858 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: is losing the pr contest day by day and this. 859 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: Christ all right and finally in the news. 860 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: This is a sad item to end it on, but 861 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 2: definitely something we should talk about. Award winning ESPN NFL 862 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: reporter Chris Mortensen passed away on Sunday at the age 863 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: of seventy two. 864 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: Really sad. This is someone who. 865 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: Battled stage four throat cancer in twenty sixteen, which you know, 866 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: cancer obviously is something that's very close to everyone us 867 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: as well. 868 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: West battle the sophageal cancer a battle. 869 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: Ultimately, he's no longer with us, and Mortensen or mort 870 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: Is everyone knew him in the famous mort Report that 871 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: I remember watching so many, so many mort reports when 872 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: he was the kind of insider in the nineties and 873 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: into the two thousands and then hung around. He died 874 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: suddenly on Sunday morning, and you could the way all 875 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: the tributes Mark poured out toward Mortenson. 876 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: He was a he was a different dude. 877 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: Because this, this business, especially the insider business, is kind 878 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: of a nasty one oft times, and it's competitive and 879 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: his cutthroats anything in this industry. And Mortensen was the 880 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: guy who was known to help people along the way 881 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: and how do you do this job as a national reporter, 882 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 2: how to get your foot in the door, how to succeed. 883 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: So even while the young ones were coming up, he 884 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: never stopped being a class act. 885 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: So he's a widely respected journalist. 886 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: He actually grew up right in the backyard here in Torrents, 887 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: I believe, but also someone who did it the right 888 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: way in terms of helping younger reporters coming up. 889 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: And it's really sad to see him go so soon. 890 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's when you hear someone described uniformly 891 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: by people that knew him very well, people that worked 892 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: with him, people that just came into contact with him. 893 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: It's like he was the gentle insider. I think that 894 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 4: game now seems a little it's cutthroat. It swallows up 895 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: your personal life, your time, and Mortenson always had a 896 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 4: different kind of vibe to him. And like I think 897 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: also he experienced the insider job at a time when 898 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 4: pregame shows actually mattered, When like he'd come on Sunday 899 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 4: morning and give you news that no one else had. 900 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 4: Now it's like a lot of rehashing of stuff that 901 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: we heard on Wednesday, Thursday riding. It's like he was 902 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 4: a pre Twitter but in Twitter too, but like he 903 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 4: operated as this person who brought incredible context information to 904 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: the football experience. 905 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. 906 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: He was doing it back when when it was like 907 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: John Clayton and Len Path Gareley at ESPN, and then 908 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 3: I remember when they brought in Schefter and in theory 909 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: Schefter would be like going on his turf and instead 910 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 3: they made this great tandem. 911 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: And always just a kind man. He was really nice. 912 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: He reached out to me a handful of times when 913 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 3: I when I started at Pro Football Talk, we would 914 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 3: have conversations and, like people said, like very generous and 915 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: warm and helpful, just like seeing someone coming up in 916 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 3: the business unprompted. And and he I know he reached 917 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: out to West too when Wes was going through his 918 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 3: battle and they had that to share, and so I 919 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 3: think just on a on a human level. I also 920 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 3: remember he reached out to Takeisha after after West died, 921 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 3: so so rest in peace. 922 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: He was a classic guy. 923 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: He he got Daniel Jeremiah, you know, started in this 924 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 3: business too, and it was it was tough see and 925 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,959 Speaker 3: DJ deal with that on live TV and everything, and 926 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: they were extremely close. 927 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: So great great man, Rest in peace, Chris Mornson. 928 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break, and when we returned, 929 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: Danny Kelly, let's talk combine in the draft ahead. 930 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 931 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: Our next guest is a senior staff writer for The 932 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: Ringer co host of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show and 933 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: The Ringer NFL Draft Show. And it is that last 934 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: credit that we're going to dive into here with Danny Kelly. 935 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Around the NFL. Denny, thank you so much. 936 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 2: How are you guys doing good? 937 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: You know? I fellow Dan Daniel. 938 00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: I was Danny from eighty birth until ninety two, and 939 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: then I had a seventh grade I had a hard 940 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: teart with my mom and I I think I asked 941 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 2: her for permission to go to a more stylized quote 942 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: unquote cool Dan, and she rubber stamped it. But still 943 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: to this day, my family calls me, Danny, do you 944 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 2: have other people? 945 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: Are you Dan to anyone? Are you a Daniel on he? 946 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: Or is all Danny all the time. Let's get into it. 947 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind of went the opposite direction from you. 948 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 7: From eighty two to high school, I was Daniel, so 949 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 7: like my parents still call me Daniel, and high school 950 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 7: I decided I want to be Dan. So a lot 951 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 7: of my high school friends that from the era still 952 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 7: call me Dan. And then kind of as a bit, 953 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 7: I decided to have everyone start calling me Danny, and 954 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 7: it just kind of stuck. 955 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 3: What do you mean as a bit, because yeah, this 956 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: is your name, this is your professional name. 957 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: It's the only name I say. You hang on. 958 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 3: You've been around on the interwabits, but you've been Danny 959 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 3: Kelly the whole time. 960 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 2: But Greg, I mean right, there's there's been a lot 961 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: of ink spilled and audio spilled out from microphones about 962 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: Triple G and Greg and all the Greg culture. Like 963 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 2: you have to let him be on his Danny path 964 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: like and understand that it's its own thing. 965 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't get the bit parts. 966 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: I will say that in the year two thousand and 967 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: this whole segment is about this name, So everybody just 968 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: dig in. 969 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 970 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: In two thousand, I worked at TGI Fridays before I 971 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: went away to college, and there were three Dans and 972 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 2: I went to Danny. Well just for that summer, and 973 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was it was special. It made 974 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: me consider staying with it, but ultimately I cowered out. 975 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: And you are the. 976 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: Danny of the NFL media industry, So thank you for 977 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: joining us. 978 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: Buddy. Let's talk a little. 979 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: The combine is over, we are spinning forward. What is 980 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: you know, a big picture thought coming out of this 981 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: weekend for you, Danny Kelly. 982 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 7: I think, first of all, a lot of guys are 983 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 7: very fast. Obviously this is what you talk about in 984 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 7: the combine, but it was especially fast combined for receivers, 985 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 7: running backs, offensive linemen. There's a lot of really really 986 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 7: good athletes. I think in general, players are maybe just 987 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 7: starting to get much better at these combine tests. Like 988 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 7: the training is a lot better these days. Maybe the 989 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 7: athletes are just better too, because because of all the 990 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 7: training involved in you know, athletics and sports, so very 991 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 7: fast players at the combine. I know this, I'm breaking 992 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 7: news here, this is exciting. 993 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned that at the drop the wide receiver 994 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 3: day stands out maybe the most because you know, for 995 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 3: our our purposes, maybe the most interesting. 996 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 2: Like you've receivers fast, okay at the combine. 997 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: Like you know, the two deepest positions in this draft. 998 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: And you know, we haven't talked a lot of drafts, 999 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 3: so I feel like we're we're starting out on this show. 1000 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: But but for. 1001 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: Our listeners to the two of the deepest positions are 1002 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: tackle and wide receiver. There's sort of a discussion which 1003 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: position gets more in the first round. It could be 1004 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 3: upwards of eight to ten for either position, which is 1005 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: which is crazy. But one thing I noticed Danny, I 1006 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 3: heard Josh Norris, our friend talk about this too, is 1007 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 3: like all these receivers are are big, like it was 1008 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 3: supposed to be this trend that like, oh, you don't 1009 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 3: have to be like a huge receiver anymore. And starting 1010 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 3: with with Roma Dunze, your guy from the Pacific Northwest, 1011 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: who's like a real deal X receiver, who could you know? 1012 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: DJ our guy at NFL Network as him as high 1013 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 3: as a third or fourth overall, will go somewhere in 1014 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: like the top eight. It could be all receivers and 1015 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 3: quarterbacks to start off. Yeah, he shows up, he has 1016 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 3: a great workout, he's like a real deal X receiver. 1017 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: But he wasn't the only one. 1018 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: It just felt like there's their deep as hell and 1019 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 3: their big as hell. So it's I don't know if 1020 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: that's a trend or if it's just like random that 1021 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: we got some nice, big, big men entering the calm down. 1022 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 7: I think it honestly, the last year there was a 1023 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 7: bunch of small receivers and that was kind of a 1024 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 7: thing that kind of felt more like a lip. I 1025 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 7: still think we're gonna still see a lot of big receivers. 1026 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 7: He got Romo Don Brian Thomas from LSU, who's like 1027 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 7: six foot three eighty Mitchell from Texas, who's one of 1028 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 7: my favorites in this class. He like was one of 1029 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 7: the most surprising and best athletes at the combine overall. 1030 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 7: Like you said, Roman Dunes, there's a handful of other 1031 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 7: guys that are that have good size. So yeah, it's 1032 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 7: it's definitely nice to, you know, have have some variation there, 1033 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 7: some variety, because last year, you know, it was just 1034 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 7: like a bunch of guys who are like one hundred 1035 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 7: and seventy eight pounds, and you know, obviously the NFL 1036 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 7: is changing, but it is good to have these guys 1037 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 7: with sides too. 1038 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue that some of these speed 1039 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 4: tests and there were more wide receivers under their four 1040 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 4: four forty than any other draft in history, So you're right. 1041 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 4: I think they were able to train for these better 1042 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 4: and prepare better. But like someone like Xavier Worthy, who 1043 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: he is a very small guy and all that stuff, 1044 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 4: and there's it's not you know, it depends where he goes, 1045 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 4: but he made himself a lot of money by just 1046 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 4: running fast versus other players where you kind of expected it. 1047 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 4: I would ask from a flip side from the quarterback angle, 1048 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 4: because a bunch of quarterbacks did nothing and you kind 1049 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 4: of left wondering what the rest of this market looks like. 1050 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: Is there a quarterback that changed your perception your mind? 1051 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: Can that happen to the combine? Yeah? 1052 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 7: I think at the quarterback position, the one guy that 1053 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 7: stood out just from literally weighing in was JJ McCarthy 1054 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 7: because he came in at two hundred nineteen pounds and 1055 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 7: I think everyone was expecting him to be about two 1056 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 7: five or something like that. And you know, obviously you 1057 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 7: can put on there's different ways to kind of bulk 1058 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 7: up right before the combine, but he looked pretty, you know, 1059 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 7: like cut. He was obviously they run around and really 1060 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 7: tight stuff. It wasn't like he just did a bunch 1061 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 7: of donuts and gained a bunch of weight before the 1062 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,959 Speaker 7: combine to kind of get up that weight. It looked 1063 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 7: like pretty realistic weight. So JJ McCarthy coming in at 1064 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 7: two hundred nineteen pounds was I think actually a pretty 1065 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 7: big news just because you know, they're the riggers of 1066 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 7: the NFL. You get hit a lot, you have to 1067 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 7: have a little bit of bulk, and I think, especially 1068 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 7: relative to the fact that Jade Daniels did not weigh 1069 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 7: in and to my eye just at the podium looked 1070 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 7: extremely skinny. I think just that comparison, that contrast could 1071 00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 7: be pretty important come come draft time, especially because at 1072 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 7: the combine just the buzz around McCarthy was palpable and 1073 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 7: you didn't really feel that with jaj Well. 1074 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 3: There's some talk that like it could go quarterback one, two, three, four, 1075 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 3: and so that fourth would be JJ McCarthy in theory, 1076 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 3: although I don't like this whole thing where like they 1077 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: clearly add weight going into the combine and then they 1078 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 3: don't run. Bryce Young did this last year, and then 1079 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 3: they and they do the droid you know he was 1080 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 3: throwing the ball, and then they lose the weight for 1081 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: their pro day. They don't wait in there, but then 1082 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 3: they do do the speed stuff there, so it's all 1083 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: kind of like, what are we doing here? 1084 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 7: Speaking for what it's worth. For what it's worth, McCarthy, 1085 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 7: I believe did run the three cone. Okay, it was 1086 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 7: an elite time. So at least there's that he I 1087 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 7: was like six or eight five or something like that. 1088 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 1: Wait, no one's worried about how he moves. 1089 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 3: He moves fantastic anyways, and so it he might get 1090 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 3: a little bit of. 1091 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: A hardball bump that Harbaugh likes him so much that 1092 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: he could go top that eye. 1093 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna as a follow up to that, like 1094 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: what is to you the McCarthy NFL comp on the 1095 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 2: on the higher end and maybe on the more conservative end. 1096 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 7: Uh So I comped him to a more sprightly Kirk Cousins. 1097 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 7: I think he's kind of a not gonna He's not 1098 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 7: gonna be super impressive physically, you know, he's kind of 1099 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 7: just right down the middle average and in terms of 1100 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 7: his arm strength, his size, his frame, his speed, everything. 1101 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 7: Uh but he's very good attack in the middle of field. 1102 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 7: He is very good on third downs and in the 1103 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 7: in the red zone. Has a little bit of swagger 1104 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 7: to him has he plays with a very confident demeanor obviously, 1105 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 7: you know, and this is important to people in the NFL. 1106 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 7: He's a winner. He's I think he lost like one 1107 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 7: game in college or something like that, and so he's 1108 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 7: you know, got all those intangibles. He's got, you know, 1109 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 7: uh again, an average frame in basically every way. And 1110 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 7: that's kind of like the Kirk Cousins line for. 1111 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 4: Me, are we going to get more first round offensive 1112 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 4: lineman than in any other his draft in history? 1113 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 7: We definitely might. This is this is a class. I 1114 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 7: have a very hard time stack in these these offensive 1115 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 7: linemen because there's so many good ones. 1116 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 3: Danny does the Draft guide, by the way, for Ringer, 1117 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 3: which is extensive in his out there. 1118 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 4: And a great read with some very uh you know, snarky, 1119 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 4: hilarious lines in there from time to time. 1120 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah, it's a great class. When when I 1121 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 7: was putting my board together, it struck me, like you 1122 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 7: said earlier, like you alluded to earlier, it's just all 1123 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 7: tackles and receivers and the first like you could, I 1124 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 7: could see like ten offensive players going off the board 1125 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 7: to start this draft, and wouldn't be that surprise. So yeah, 1126 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 7: it's it's a lot of a lot of offensive linement. 1127 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 7: It's a great year to want to tackle. There's even 1128 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 7: a couple of good, uh like guard tackle combo type guys. 1129 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 7: There's a couple of center guard combo type players. So 1130 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 7: great offensive line draft draft, and overall there's gonna be 1131 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 7: a lot of them taken in the first round. 1132 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 3: Well especially yeah, because there's none in free agency. There 1133 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's just enough in the NFL. And 1134 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 3: then a guy like do All goes out there and 1135 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 3: he's doing the the I don't know what they called 1136 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: the mobility Joe is like the three cone and everything, 1137 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 3: and he's putting up Lane Johnson type numbers. So it's like, Okay, 1138 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: that guy, that guy is gonna go very high. Did 1139 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 3: you have some favorites at receiver? You mentioned ad Mitchell, which, yeah, 1140 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 3: so his teammates with Xavier Worthy who runs the four 1141 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 3: two one, and that's a great moment. 1142 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: The crowd goes crazy. 1143 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 3: I was kind of actually thinking, just a little sidebar, 1144 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 3: like NFL network has been building to that moment for 1145 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: like twenty years, because he came out and was like, 1146 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: I've been watching the combine since I was a little kid, 1147 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: and it had been my dream to do this, And 1148 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 3: I was like that, literally they could have sort of 1149 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 3: created this event as an event. And then he does 1150 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 3: it and the crowd goes crazy. The crowd actually cared 1151 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: enough to go crazy. I was like, and he's probably 1152 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 3: got to go in the first round now because of it. 1153 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 3: Like that was a big a wig win for NFL network. 1154 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: It didn't exist before. But like between those two guys, like, 1155 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: are they first round receivers ad Mitchell, Xavi and Worthy 1156 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 3: like they it just seems like there's so many Savior Worthy. 1157 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 3: It seems like there's so many guys who could or 1158 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: could not be first round receivers, which makes me wonder 1159 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 3: if teams just like, wait a little bit on it, 1160 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 3: but answer that, and if you had any other receivers 1161 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 3: you want to through out there as a big winner. 1162 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. Right now, there's like the big 1163 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 7: three Marvin Harrison, Junior, Malik, Neighbors, romandun Say, and then 1164 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 7: after that there's probably six to eight different receivers I 1165 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 7: think could go in the first round. You have the 1166 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 7: two you mentioned from the two Texas receivers, Ady Mitchell 1167 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 7: Xavier Worthy, you got Brian Thomas Junior from LSU. I'm 1168 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 7: a big lad McConkey guy. I don't know if he 1169 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 7: has necessarily the size to go in the first round, 1170 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 7: but he ran a four to three nine. He's like 1171 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 7: an all around receiver. I've comped him to Doug Baldwin. 1172 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 7: He just he's just a really good round on an 1173 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 7: extraordinary acceleration. You have Keon Coleman, who is a confusing 1174 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 7: evaluation because he was actually one of the slowest receivers 1175 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 7: at the combine in terms of the forty, but then 1176 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 7: when he was running the gauntlet, they tracked like their 1177 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 7: miles prior to their speed, he was like the fastest, 1178 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 7: So you know, you get into the argument of field 1179 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 7: speed and game speed. And then there's a handful of 1180 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 7: other guys. Troy Franklin from Oregon is another player that 1181 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people have put in the 1182 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 7: first round. I really like Jalen Polk from Washington to 1183 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 7: their second receiver. And you know, there's there's a couple 1184 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 7: other guys that could like rise in the process. Roman Wilson, 1185 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 7: Ricky Piersoll from Florida. It's at an incredible combine, so 1186 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 7: it's a big. 1187 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: Time for like athletic white outside receivers, like for real, 1188 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 3: it's like time and and you have Cooper Degene who's 1189 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 3: like this incredibly athletic cornerback. 1190 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: It is a little bit of. 1191 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 3: A paradigm shift because Maconkie and pearsall are both testing 1192 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 3: you know, Piersaw especially out of the roof, but Mconkie 1193 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 3: might be like a first round white. I mean, it's 1194 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 3: it's not Abne like this, Matt, Like this is in 1195 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 3: the minds of alert to the New England Patriots, right, 1196 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 3: but it's in the minds of like decision makers and 1197 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 3: stuff to sort of like, Okay, that's that's something that's 1198 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 3: happening like that, let's let's address for that. 1199 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: And then we got to move to cornerback next. A 1200 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 2: bit of a drought there since Seahorn. Hey uh, I'm 1201 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. Interesting right, because everybody talked about Worthy he 1202 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 2: ran close to worthy speed, But I saw this reported 1203 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 2: somewhere four inches taller, forty four pounds heavier, And then 1204 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: I was like, who, who's a like a beast like 1205 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 2: that but also fast as hell? 1206 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 1: And I was like, DK Metcalf, that was like is he? 1207 00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: I know? Metcalf was a little bigger. 1208 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 2: He was two twenty eight and Thomas waited in two nine. 1209 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 2: But does he strike you and he also led FBS 1210 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 2: by the way seventeen touchdowns, Yeah, instant star, Like do 1211 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 2: you see, like, is there anyone that the draft and 1212 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm using him as somebody that intrigues me as a 1213 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 2: potential hit the ground running like number one potential guy 1214 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 2: as Thomas or someone else that you saw this weekend 1215 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 2: that guy. 1216 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, Thomas so Ady Mitchell and Brian Thomas Junior are 1217 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 7: kind of in that same vein and that same mold 1218 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 7: of receiver, like a sort of raw but really explosive. 1219 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 7: And they have this frame where like the six three 1220 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 7: six y four two hundred ish pound guys that's not 1221 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 7: really been like a frame that has been super successful 1222 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 7: in the NFL prior to the last few years. Now 1223 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 7: you see guys like George Pickens, Ceedee Lamb sort of 1224 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 7: is in that sort of vein where either are these taller, 1225 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 7: skinny guys And I comped. I comped Brian Thomas Junior 1226 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 7: to Christian Watson. I guess with hamstrings at work, because he, 1227 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 7: to me is just you know, again, there's a little 1228 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 7: bit of I think concern over his overall nuances a 1229 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 7: route runner and all those things. He didn't run a 1230 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 7: ton of different routes for LSU, who's running a lot 1231 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 7: of slot phadse, a lot of vertical routes. But he 1232 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 7: scores a ton of touchdowns if you get him with 1233 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 7: a good quarterback who can lead him down the field. 1234 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 7: He has that field tilting ability. And so yeah, I 1235 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 7: actually saw, you know, speaking of these two guys, Adie 1236 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,399 Speaker 7: Mitchell and Brant Thomas Junior, I saw a tweet from 1237 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 7: Warren Sharp there's two receivers since twenty fifteen at the 1238 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 7: combine that have run four three five or better and 1239 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,919 Speaker 7: six two and two o five or more. That's DK 1240 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 7: Metcalf and Ady Mitchell. So Adie Mitchell, to me, I 1241 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 7: think was one of the biggest winners because I think 1242 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 7: there were questions coming into the week whether he has 1243 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 7: that quote unquote long speed that you know, vertical, take 1244 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 7: the take the top off a defense type speed. And 1245 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 7: I found it interesting at the at the podiums he 1246 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 7: actually said something like I don't ever run my routes 1247 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 7: full speed, which is simultaneously interesting in a red flag. 1248 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 7: I didn't really know what to make of that because 1249 00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 7: the question. The question was at basically about him varying 1250 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 7: his route speed and rolling defenders to sleep, and basically, 1251 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 7: you know, changing his speed so it's not always just 1252 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 7: like he's running full speed at all times. But I 1253 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 7: think it just kind of came out, came out a 1254 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 7: little bit wrong and a little bit leading. But he 1255 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 7: to me, was one of the biggest winners just because 1256 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 7: I don't I even wrote in my reporter like does 1257 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 7: he have the long speed. I don't know if he 1258 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 7: has that that elite vertical speed, but it sure seems 1259 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 7: like he does after the way he tested. 1260 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 4: It's pretty telling that we've gotten like we go this 1261 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 4: far into the Q and A and we haven't even 1262 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 4: talked about a defensive player. But I do think like 1263 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 4: Dallas Turner watching him run his forty and just like 1264 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 4: the way he's built, like his wings span, his arms 1265 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 4: like he to me, it's probably the first defensive guy 1266 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 4: off the board in a pretty thin class for defensive dudes. 1267 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, eighty three inch wingspan, which is I saw someone 1268 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 7: put it's almost exactly the same as Labron James. And 1269 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 7: he's only six foot two, I think six foot two, 1270 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 7: so obviously his frame is almost perfectly built to play 1271 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 7: like the edge. He's really long arms, but he's still 1272 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 7: he's not lanky, he's not tall and like sort of 1273 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 7: skinny and lankies. He's just sort of perfectly constructed to 1274 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 7: rush the passer. We're in a four four seven and 1275 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 7: the forty forty and a half inch vert basically everything. 1276 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 7: All his numbers are ninetieth percentile and more from ed 1277 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 7: rushers of the combine. So he, you know, I think 1278 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 7: definitely made money. I kind of had him somewhere in 1279 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 7: the middle of the first round before this week, and 1280 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 7: I'm guessing, based just on the way he tested, teams 1281 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 7: are going to be going back and looking at the 1282 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 7: tape and being like, this is the guy that we 1283 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 7: can mold, this is the guy that we can you know, 1284 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 7: work with because of those athletic traits, right. 1285 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, there were different defensive players had nice week. 1286 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 3: Kenyon Mitchell, who was a cornerback. Maybe the top corner 1287 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, maybe Byron Murphy is defensive tackle. But it 1288 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 3: is something interesting about this class that there might not 1289 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 3: be any defensive players in the top ten. That's why 1290 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 3: there seems to be extreme classes based on positions like 1291 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 3: the defense. You know, people are going to push cornerbacks 1292 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: up the board, but running back in tight end is 1293 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 3: also like there might not be anyone other than brock 1294 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: Bauers at tight end that gets taken in the first 1295 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 3: couple of rounds, or might there probably isn't any running 1296 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: backs is getting taken in the first couple of rounds. 1297 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: You famously. 1298 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: Came at the King last year and missed by telling 1299 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 3: me that Luke Muskrave was going to be better than 1300 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 3: Sam Laporta, and all Sam Laporta did was have like 1301 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: the greatest We went back and forth on this, and 1302 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 3: I stuck my flag on Sam Laporta's back and you 1303 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: went with Muskrave, and uh all did was carry a 1304 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 3: bunch of fantasy teams to titles. 1305 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: Don't you in the n Champions put the flag on 1306 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: the hill behind Sam Laporta, not the center of his back. 1307 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 4: I think Greg literally had you on the show just 1308 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 4: to get to that self brag. 1309 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: But texting about this just one small take, mister Kelly, 1310 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: your response to that assassination attempt. 1311 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 7: So the way I remember it, this is all erroneous. 1312 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 7: First of all, I very lightly suggested that I like 1313 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 7: Luke Musgrave slightly more than sam Port. I wasn't like, 1314 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 7: you know, planting a flag with with Musgrave. By the way, 1315 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 7: you forget to mention my big sleeper on the show 1316 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 7: last year. The guy that I was like willing to 1317 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 7: like stake my career on was Devon a. 1318 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 3: Chan That's a good job. 1319 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: That was good. You know, he was great in the 1320 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: six games he played. He was stopping. But that was good. 1321 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: That was a good one. Greg, this is our guest, 1322 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: literally the guest of the show. That was a good one. 1323 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: He nailed anything else. So we talk about do you have. 1324 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 3: Any tight ends or running back just it's just to 1325 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 3: hit the positions that that you do like because they're 1326 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 3: not going to go high in the draft necessarily. Obviously 1327 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 3: Bowers will, But is there anyone that you like? 1328 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 7: So my I think favorite running back this year is 1329 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 7: Trey Benson from Florida State. It reminds me a lot 1330 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 7: of Kenneth Walker. Just stylistically, very quick feet, very explosive. 1331 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 7: He ran a four to three nine, which is exactly 1332 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 7: what kenn Walker ran last year or two years ago. 1333 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 7: He is a big game hunter, so he's he's I 1334 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 7: think a little bit unsure sometimes behind line of scrimmage. 1335 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,439 Speaker 7: Will try and bounce a little too often and trying 1336 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: to reverse the field kind of the way that Kena 1337 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 7: Walker does. It's same sort of style. But I love 1338 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 7: this guy. I think he's gonna end up probably being 1339 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 7: a third rounder, but he, to me, is the most 1340 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 7: exciting running back in this class. 1341 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you were you know, you were 1342 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: feet on the ground. 1343 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 4: And there's this thing that keeps happening at these combines 1344 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 4: and it's it's a civilian versus a player, and I 1345 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 4: don't think it's fair if we can bring. 1346 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Up the video here, all right, what are we looking at? 1347 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: It is a player who is, you know, running a 1348 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 4: drill and then there's this man in a red shirt 1349 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 4: and here this guy is in a white sweatshirt holding 1350 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 4: like the big giant bag that come smatching you. 1351 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: They and you know, and you know it's not gonna 1352 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: go well. 1353 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,919 Speaker 4: But then they replayed this in slow motion of it's 1354 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 4: like getting hit by punched by Rocky basically. 1355 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 2: So they're doing like swim drills and there's a young 1356 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 2: man getting absolutely I meanmara in this era of you know, 1357 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 2: protecting the brain, and the NFL's initiatives put that guy 1358 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: in a helmet at the very least, and your thoughts. 1359 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 7: Is this a guy that lost like his Fantasy League 1360 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 7: last place fan like punishment or whatever, and go out 1361 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 7: there and hold. 1362 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 1: The bags during these drills. 1363 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a thankless, thankless job you were. 1364 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 3: You were there for all these questions by the bad job, 1365 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 3: by the guy who asked Caleb Williams as his first question, Uh, 1366 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 3: how come you don't want to compete or something like that. 1367 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: That's so bad. I got to leave the building when 1368 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: he opened like that. 1369 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 3: I know you, I knew you wanted to talk about 1370 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Amarus Mims uh Danny and his comparison between you know, 1371 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: himself and the other prospects, and definitely the reporters in 1372 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 3: the building. 1373 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a picture of circulating from Ryan Fowler 1374 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 7: on Twitter that showed various mems like taking pictures of 1375 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 7: the sort of scene. 1376 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if he looks like twice as big as. 1377 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 7: Anybody else, yes on that floor, So it's a little. 1378 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 4: Bit of like Hobbit perspective filming technique going on there 1379 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 4: because they're about five or six feet beyond it. But 1380 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 4: no doubt he towers over any other human in the shock. 1381 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, and it is. 1382 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: And then people were someone comment, did they they realized 1383 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 3: is going to the combine for the first time. They 1384 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 3: didn't realize how many short reporters there are out there, 1385 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 3: and it is a short crew. I gotta admit, there's 1386 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 3: a lot of short guys. Like if you're just average height, 1387 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 3: that kind of looked like the munchkins right then you're 1388 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 3: you're looking tall on that crew. 1389 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 7: Picture is for for anyone who thinks they could go 1390 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 7: play NFL football right now, like go try and go 1391 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 7: try and you know, rush against that guy. 1392 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 3: He had, by the way, an absolutely ridiculous, freakish workout, 1393 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 3: which might and he's barely played at the pro level 1394 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: just because of injuries and then didn't have a starting job, 1395 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 3: but he might get taken extremely extremely high. 1396 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 2: All right, Washington's own Danny Kelly check him out at 1397 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 2: the Ringer. Of course, shout out his NFL draft show, 1398 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 2: his draft guide, and of course fantasy football is always 1399 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 2: on the mind. 1400 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: He's on that too. 1401 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 2: One other thought about Danny's because I said in TGI 1402 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Friday's Summer of two thousand at the Palisade Center Mall 1403 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: in wes Nayak, New York, I found it to be. 1404 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: I weaponized it a little bit because when you're Danny 1405 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 2: with with the opposite sex or you know, whomever you're 1406 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 2: attempting to mingle with. 1407 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I found that being a Danny made you seem. 1408 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: A little safer, a little sweeter, a little uh that 1409 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 2: guy where Yeah, more fun loving and more kind of wholesome. 1410 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Almost did that play a role at all? And how 1411 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 2: others perceive you in a sweet wholesome way and manner 1412 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: that would allow you to succeed in various. 1413 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 8: And romantically especially Yes, absolutely, I think subtenly my personality 1414 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 8: changed when I you know, because your name is such 1415 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 8: a big part of your identity, right, like Greg, you 1416 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 8: probably had a lot of issues with like two g's 1417 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 8: in your name. 1418 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 7: Yes, how was that growing up for you? Yeah? 1419 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 3: People like they still comment on it a lot. But 1420 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 3: you you are, you are, like you're you're a married man, 1421 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 3: you know you have a child. 1422 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: I believe you know, he's a sweet danny. 1423 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: But also Greg, Greg was a major swordsman in Western 1424 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Massachusetts and high school, so I think being a triple 1425 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 2: G help. But anyway, I just that was a memory 1426 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I had of the TGI Friday's. 1427 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 1: Run in two thousand special run for you. Absolutely agree, 1428 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree fully with that. 1429 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 2: Yet all right, Daniel's a little bit like, oh, keep 1430 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 2: your eye on that guy. Can you keep him on an 1431 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: arms length Dan's legs? Kind of a bad news situation. 1432 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 2: Danny's safe, Danny, Thank. 1433 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: You, buddy, Danny. You guys, there he goes good one. 1434 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to bring up something closer to our show 1435 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 4: because I and I opened the show. 1436 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm a balance. I want to be balanced in my cover. 1437 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Talk about another Daniel. Yes, another Daniel. This is a 1438 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: Daniel again. Keep Daniels at an arm's length whenever you can. 1439 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think especially well, so you know, I said 1440 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 4: they had to did a great job. They brought a 1441 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 4: bunch of guests on, Joey mulnaro, who is like this 1442 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 4: incredible impressionist. I think he's one of the best out there. 1443 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 4: A huge football fan and like he he talked about 1444 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 4: growing up and coming to the combine where you'd stand 1445 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 4: in that roped off area where you would just wait 1446 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 4: to see reporters and stuff coming by. Was a big deal. 1447 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 4: He was like a football nerd. 1448 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: There's always there's always great fans there. 1449 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 3: There's always also the sketchy autograph collectible guy. 1450 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: You know I hate those guys. But that's not Joey. 1451 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Joey was a sidebar, right, because we've 1452 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 2: been to the combine many times. Can we calm down 1453 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 2: with the grown men with the helmets and the glosses. 1454 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 2: I think we could like waiting for the teenagers to 1455 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 2: walk by. There's got to be something else to do. 1456 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, there's gotta be something. 1457 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 4: But this is this is someone who went Joey and 1458 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 4: so we already know we can trust him on some level. 1459 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: But so Joey sat with rich Eisen. 1460 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: And Markers standing next to like like teenage boys. 1461 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's their sons. Sometimes, Oh yeah, I was, I 1462 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 4: was at but I'm with you. 1463 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 3: I was at a women's tennis tournament just yesterday in 1464 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 3: San Diego. Walker goes up there, you buy like this 1465 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 3: big the big old ball, the big ball, big side, 1466 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 3: and there's you know, he's getting swallowed up. I let 1467 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 3: him just go up there, and he's getting swallowed up 1468 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 3: by these adults. 1469 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Kind of you're gonna give like, how old's Walker seven? 1470 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: He's eight. You gotta give an eight year old nine 1471 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: year old Walker Rose a sharp elbows. 1472 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 3: No, it's seems improper the size of a seven year 1473 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 3: old sidebar ended. 1474 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I will attempt to like. 1475 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 4: I just want I thought you would enjoy this where 1476 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 4: molling Arrow basically caught DJ not. 1477 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Doing what he needed to be doing. Very good, let's 1478 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: to be here today, dream come true? 1479 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Hey, Jim, Chris Collinsworth, that was wrong. 1480 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: I've already Oh my god, let me be the straight man. 1481 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,919 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, you the analysis, I'll be the man's 1482 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: got his head so burried to tap he can't Tony 1483 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: Romo and Chris collins Dandel Jeremiah. 1484 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 7: I think he got a career as a general manager. 1485 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about them broadcaster too much. 1486 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Who is that Mullinari? Yeah, I like that Pizon. I 1487 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 2: gotta go check out his next stand up show. 1488 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 4: He's great Steelers fan. I believe he listens to the 1489 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 4: show a little bit. Joey Mullinari, Molinaro, Molenaro, Molnaro, Yeah, 1490 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 4: I like him. 1491 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I bet there's a lot of out there, but yeah, 1492 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: that's great. Goodnug Mark. You're all over the coverage this week, 1493 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: and I love it. 1494 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 3: I got here at any other Do you have anything 1495 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: else you want to get out of the comment it 1496 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 3: is it is fun. 1497 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: They'll start the start the draft process and get download 1498 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: that notebook mark O. 1499 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 4: I would say next year, if we are not invited, 1500 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 4: there will be a strongly worded letter sent to the 1501 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 4: everyone on the third floor. 1502 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: We will be there. 1503 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 4: I missed hanging out, I missed the fun. I missed 1504 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 4: the sights and the sounds, and yet we have soldiered 1505 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 4: on and done the best we possibly can. 1506 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: That's the that's the notes. No, I was just mine. 1507 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any other? That was my side note? 1508 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 4: Okay, that's good, and I know well player side we covered. 1509 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 4: I am very interested to see more from the quarterback 1510 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 4: tape like Michael Pennix Junior and the rest of. 1511 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 3: The Yeah, there was this guy, Isaac Cornado from Louisville 1512 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 3: is sort of what the combine made for. He is 1513 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 3: the fastest two hundred and twenty pound back in combine history. 1514 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 3: Our friend Bill Barnwell created someone called something called the 1515 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 3: speed score back in the day, which kind of adjusted 1516 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 3: weight for speed. 1517 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 2: Before there was the reception perception. Yes, with Matt Harmon, 1518 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 2: there was the speeds. 1519 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 3: The speed score, and he's I think the highest in 1520 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 3: speed score history or close to the top. Next Gen 1521 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,600 Speaker 3: stats had had him fifth all time in terms of athleticism. 1522 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 3: There was this other you know, total workout score that 1523 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 3: had him fifth out of seventeen hundred and sixty five 1524 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 3: running back. So a big man that can move and 1525 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 3: kind of bounced around at first, but that's he has 1526 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: the type of day where it's like, okay, now he 1527 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 3: went from being like some seventh round pick to like 1528 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 3: some team's going to give him a chance in the 1529 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 3: third round. 1530 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I was going to seven an h change type of guy. 1531 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: He was. 1532 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 3: He was just as fast as Devin chan and Keaton Mitchell, 1533 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 3: except he's like weighs fifty more pounds in them. 1534 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: What was up with you again? Agro with Kelly about 1535 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: a couple of different things. There is that just mix. 1536 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 4: It isn't that just parton parcel with you know Greg, 1537 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: the interviewers connect. 1538 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 3: That's how how do you not know this? This is 1539 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 3: how we show love in Western Massachusetts. We're all just 1540 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of jerks. Apparently I go, but Danny already 1541 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: has texted me and wanted. 1542 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: An apology a correction. Yes, Devin H. 1543 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 3: Chan erasure he had almost a thousand scrimmage yards and 1544 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: eleven touchdowns. 1545 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I demand a correction. So here it is. You got 1546 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: your correction. 1547 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 2: We have an audience, it's vast, and there's a responsibility 1548 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 2: comes with that. You try to totally what'd you say 1549 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 2: he played six games? I think he did have like 1550 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: a hunt, like six games. 1551 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: He played eleven. But yeah, it felt like it is weird. 1552 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Not only do we have all these like star running 1553 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 2: backs hitting free agency and nobody seems to be willing 1554 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 2: to pay them. You're gonna have a draft now where 1555 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: it's possible it takes until round four, day two of 1556 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 2: the draft, or day three of the draft for a 1557 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 2: running back to come off the board. Now, somebody will 1558 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 2: probably jump up into the third or multiple guys, but nobody. 1559 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: There's no Bejons this year. 1560 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 4: It's a weird draft in terms of certain positions being 1561 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 4: slightly ghostly. 1562 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Gibbs is Nobe Jeans. 1563 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 3: All right, the world where DK mccalffin agent, remember where 1564 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 3: they got drafted? Late second? Like that, that world doesn't 1565 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 3: exist anymore. People were taking their receivers. All right, take 1566 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 3: a break and we'll finish up. Welcome back. We talked 1567 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,640 Speaker 3: about with Danny Kelly the Fantasy League. 1568 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 2: Move where the guy finished in last place has to 1569 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 2: do some type of shameful act. 1570 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: One of the. 1571 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 2: People in my fantasy league is someone I've known for 1572 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 2: twenty years, my league of record, Shelyn Patel, who along 1573 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 2: with his family purchased West brom just like they have 1574 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 2: the team now. And it's been a major I mean, 1575 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: it's been a blowing my mind and learning more about 1576 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 2: the culture of the Baggies and everything, immediately my favorite team. 1577 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 2: And we've been texting with John Gonzalez Gonzo, Colleen's husband, 1578 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 2: who's a major soccer fan, and he's been shading in 1579 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 2: some context about the move. And I've been texting, of 1580 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 2: course with Cholin about it, and there's a lot of excitement. 1581 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 2: Very strange, this convergence. It is an amazing thing. 1582 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 3: You definitely have a friend that is wealthier than any 1583 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 3: friend I have, I pretty get. 1584 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I definitely don't have one that high or even. 1585 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 3: Close that is very successful, incredible, and it's incredible now 1586 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 3: we can root for them because they're in the championship. 1587 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to say something wrong, but they're in the 1588 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 3: level in the league below the premier league. But they 1589 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 3: got a chance here, They got a chance, got a 1590 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 3: chance to get elevated. They're in the race, so we 1591 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 3: got something to root for. Then get to get bumped up. 1592 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 3: Make him some money. 1593 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 1: A great guy. I've seen him through the years. 1594 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,640 Speaker 2: My buddy Greg fifty percent from the Super Bowl was 1595 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: roommates with him at Bapson and I've known him for years. 1596 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: He's a great guy, and I was. 1597 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,600 Speaker 2: I sent out a tweet a couple days ago like 1598 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 2: congratulating him and saying that this is my new team. 1599 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: Dare I say this could be the team of around 1600 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 2: the NFL, the football team around the NFL, because Shelyn 1601 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 2: is a major atn fan listener makes sense anyway, So 1602 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 2: that little back and forth with me and Shellin gets 1603 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 2: picked up by a website out in England headline west 1604 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 2: Brom takeover Colon. Actually this is this is developing news. 1605 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that west Brom takeover Colon. 1606 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 2: Shalin Patel invites NFL media crew that's us to the 1607 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 2: Hawthorns as new Baggies fans ready for the lead. Shellin 1608 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 2: Petel has invited around the NFL host Dan Hanss and 1609 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 2: his crew to the Hawthorns after his West Brom takeover 1610 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 2: was confirmed and now I'm gonna read the second graph 1611 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 2: as an Englishman, the American. 1612 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 9: Replied via Twitter on one match after his compatriot announced 1613 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 9: he would now be a Boggies fan from now on. 1614 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 9: After the announcement of twenty eight February, that lies time 1615 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 9: as majority hold. 1616 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 2: It was over and then there's a full quote. West 1617 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,839 Speaker 2: Brom profile grows in the US already after Shelyn Patel takeover. 1618 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 2: We're wagging a dog over here right now at n 1619 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 2: and our our strength as a top international podcast, West Brom. 1620 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 2: This is the crossover no one knew existed and here 1621 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 2: we are. 1622 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 4: All I need was to have been included in the 1623 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 4: invitation and I are. Well, that's what I'm saying. And 1624 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 4: so you didn't reply to it, but did a wonderful 1625 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 4: job to that. So shoot Sealin a reply and I 1626 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 4: let him know that you're into it. What platform is 1627 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 4: it happening on. It's on a platform you've retired from. 1628 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll write him. I'll write him personally. I forgot. 1629 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 2: I'll let him know there's a reason you haven't repewed. 1630 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 2: You've stepped You've stepped down from your Twitter dude. 1631 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 4: I have I will find a pathway and thank him, 1632 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 4: it'll be your ghost account. 1633 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 2: You have any decent Kelsey like a press conference to 1634 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 2: give a teer full eulog of your social media I'm 1635 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 2: crafting it. 1636 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 3: Now you're gonna are you actually got to delete your account? 1637 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,679 Speaker 3: I have a friend that that did that. They deleted 1638 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,639 Speaker 3: it with a big following, and just I don't think 1639 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,719 Speaker 3: let it sit there, Let it sit there in space. 1640 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:14,559 Speaker 1: It is very exciting. 1641 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 3: I heard from a listener who owns a great tennis podcast, 1642 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 3: the Tennis Podcast, David Law. He said he said this 1643 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 3: takeover meant a lot to him. He's he's been a 1644 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 3: fan since very little boy. And now you know they 1645 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 3: were worried about the future of this team and your 1646 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 3: friend is saving it. Now I'm a little torn. I 1647 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 3: can root for multiple teams. You know, famously, I once 1648 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 3: wore a west Ham jersey. The second time you said 1649 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 3: famously about yourself. But it's supposed to be ironic. The 1650 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 3: point is it's not famous. 1651 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Yea. 1652 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 3: I wear a west Ham jersey and got booed out 1653 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 3: of those stages in London. So I have I have 1654 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 3: been a support of the Hammers, but I feel like 1655 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 3: I can support both. They're in different leagues. Cool in 1656 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 3: the NFL very casual. Yes, that's true. It is is 1657 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 3: your NFL move as well. 1658 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 2: You have to know what part of the country you're in, 1659 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 2: where to wear the kits and all that. 1660 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: But I proudly fly the flag bloying, bloying style. So 1661 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: we got to get there. We got to get to 1662 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 1: London and get to that stadium. 1663 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 2: But by the way, is a great guy like I 1664 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 2: wouldn't even know that he was this business monster. Uh 1665 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 2: and I would imagine he's very smart and greatest fantasy 1666 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 2: football for whatever that means. 1667 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like where did he finish this year in fantasy is? 1668 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: I would want to know? Oh, man, I should roughly 1669 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 1: ballpark he had. You know what I can tell you. 1670 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 2: I can tell you that he had the greatest regular 1671 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 2: season of all time. 1672 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 1673 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,879 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it paid off in the playoffs, 1674 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 2: but his management of the team was pristine, so that 1675 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 2: no bag bag know that this man knows what he's 1676 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 2: doing in terms of transactions. 1677 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 3: Uh, anything else. Before we say goodbye, we're back on Wednesday. 1678 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 3: We got Connie. 1679 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 2: Connie Fox will be with us on Wednesday and we're 1680 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 2: going to do some pre free agency conversation. I feel 1681 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 2: like This should be the new theme when we have 1682 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 2: a guest coming on. 1683 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 4: All right, I really like it. I like the segue. 1684 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 4: Have coming up on Wednesday too, nice tease. Do you 1685 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 4: want to give me how it works? 1686 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 2: A Jason Kelcey Twitter retirement speech where you mentioned and 1687 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 2: balls repeatedly amidst time. But on Wednesday, I'm gonna craft 1688 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 2: it a whole show build out now. Okay, thank you everybody. Oh, 1689 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 2: and thank you. Speaking of retirements and Philadelphia legends, Sean 1690 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 2: Kelly behind the glass that we've talked about a lot 1691 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 2: on the show and is a great dude, is leaving 1692 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 2: for greener pastures and full time employment back in Philadelphia. 1693 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: So we want to say thank you to Sean Kelly. 1694 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 7: Bud Oh, thank you so much. Guys. 1695 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 10: I did bring me on. I appreciate it. You guys 1696 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 10: are so nice. Thank you because are the best. 1697 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 3: And anyone should check out you know Sean if you're 1698 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 3: looking for stand up yes in the Philadelphia area. 1699 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Is he's out. 1700 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 2: There and he's been cutting his teeth on the LA 1701 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 2: comedy scene, which is as you know, hardcore as it 1702 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 2: gets up. Tell me he's just gonna rip Philadelphia wide 1703 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,759 Speaker 2: open with his act, his new job, which is separate 1704 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 2: from that. 1705 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be big. 1706 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 10: I'm excited to do a both new great production job 1707 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 10: in Philly and then also take on that stand up 1708 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 10: scene by storm. Oh yeah, I'm gonna be running Philadelphia. Guys, 1709 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:12,480 Speaker 10: it's going to be great, all right, slow down. 1710 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. 1711 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,719 Speaker 4: We have a pretty intimate crew of people behind the glass, 1712 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 4: and to lose someone John Kelly is not easy. 1713 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: But onto Greener it always stands. But I remember you're 1714 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: a young man show how old you? 1715 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 7: Yes? 1716 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 2: Twenty five, twenty five. It's amazing to have this experience. 1717 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. 1718 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 2: I was floating. I was working at a PR firm 1719 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,839 Speaker 2: when I was twenty five. I was like, what's happening. 1720 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 2: You are on a great path, buddy. Thank you for 1721 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 2: everything you did for the show. 1722 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 10: Thank you guys so much. It's been a pleasure. These 1723 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 10: last four seasons have been the most amazing couple of years. 1724 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 10: I've met so many amazing people, you guys included. It's 1725 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 10: been a pleasure, especially show me especially ye that yeah 1726 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 10: real phrase top. 1727 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 2: We might get another article written in the on this website. 1728 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,640 Speaker 2: So if this becomes a little news tag on we 1729 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 2: want to get the quote right about how great we are. 1730 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, you guys the three greatest people I 1731 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 10: have ever met the NFL. 1732 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: And what order would the three of us be? Oh 1733 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: that always really give it to him, Just give it 1734 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,080 Speaker 1: to him, that always. 1735 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 10: Really, you know, I'm gonna leave that one to mystery, 1736 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,640 Speaker 10: but you all are highly regarded. The first show I 1737 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 10: ever worked on was around the NFL and when I 1738 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,200 Speaker 10: first got here, my first day working remote in New 1739 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 10: Jersey during the pandemic, and it was the first logo 1740 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 10: I ever saw. And it's been an amazing couple of seasons. 1741 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 10: Use the guys, Puches, Love you, Bud, love you too. 1742 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 1: All Right, that's it until Wednesday. Till next time. Heed 1743 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: the call.