1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, it's me Josh, and for this week's 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: s Y s K Selects, I chose our episode Why 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Can't We Find Amelia Earhart, which first aired in December 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: of two thousand. Recently, a photo has been making the 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: rounds that purports to show Amelia and her navigator, Poor 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Fred Noonan after they disappeared, which supposedly gives credence to 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: the theory that the Japanese captured them. So I thought 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: it was a good reason and a good time to 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: revisit our episode on it. I hope you enjoy. Welcome 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, Chuck Tryan. Jerry's in the other room with 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a golf putter that she's going to come in here 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and swing in us any second now, which makes this 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: stuff you should not. I think we're on our last 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: nerve today. Yes, well it's Friday. It's the last Friday 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: in October. It's like three o'clock and we're going to 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: get out of here after this. Yeah, Plus we were 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: we've been gone a week and then we just get 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: carried in here by our minions on our thrones, and 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: we were plopped down and we just told Jerry to 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: like make it so And yeah, wh wasn't that standing 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: ovation from everyone we work with? Um? Just amazing. Yeah. Yeah, 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of used to him by now, Chuck. Yes, 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: do you ever get any Time Life books? No, I've 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: never gotten them, but I used to love those when 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I was a kid. The commercials. Yeah, there's some cool ones, 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the Old West ones especially. I like the ones that 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: we're just kind of like out there, like what the 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: heck is going on? Like I first heard of Trepi 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Nation thanks to the Time Life Ancient brain Surgery from 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: What the heck is going On series? Yes, exactly, very underrated. 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: There's one, um, the Wild West once huh. Oh yeah, 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the once killed a man just for snore and too loud. Huh. 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: That had a big impact on me. Yeah, I don't 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: snore my dad like my dad like the World War 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: two ones. Yeah, but he liked any think it's Old 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: War two for a while and now he's kind of 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: out of it really. Yeah, he's like kind of, um, well, 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: there was a there is a book. It's still in 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: print as far as I can tell it's called, uh, 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: it's life, not Time Life, because I think Time went 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: on with Warner in A O L. Which, by the way, 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: someone at Time Life their time Warner said that their 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: acquisition of A O L was one of the worst 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: mistakes in the history of business recently. That's not nice. 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: But there is a life book called, uh, the Greatest 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Mysteries of All Time, and it's like a top fifty, 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: and it's things like, um, was Anastasia a live princess? Anastasia? 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Did she escaped the Bolshevik Revolution? Who? That's not really 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: a mystery? How do they figure that one out? Yeah? 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm in Atlantis? Okay? Yeah. I was like, 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, they they've got that one licked. We can 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: go there, actually, if you'll pay for the plane tickets. Um, 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: there's Jack, the ripper of our phase. Uh. And among them, 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: as she should be in all lists of the greatest 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: sunse Solved mysteries, is Amelia Earhart right. Um. In two 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: thousand seven, we saw the seventieth anniversary of her disappearance. 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: She just kind of flew into history. Uh. And I 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: wrote an article about it last summer. UM, and I 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: was really shocked to find that there is a lot 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: of pieces in place that if one thing would change, 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: we'd know for sure what happened to her. But still 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: this mystery endures, um, and it drives people crazy and 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: makes them want to go like. People spend tons of 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: money and time and effort, sure uh to try to 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: figure out what happened to her, And some people have 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: come up with some theories that are interesting. Um. One 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: was that she was actually captured by the Japanese. This 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: is right before World Wars prison they were kind of adversarial. 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: Of what they leave out is that the Japanese actually 72 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: helped with her search, So that's not true what But 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: that is a theory that's still going on, that she 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: was captured by the Japanese, either executed or forced into 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: servitude to become Tokyo Rose, who was a group of 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: English speaking women who basically said, g I, your girlfriend 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: back home is having sex with um Captain America and Superman. Yeah. Um, 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: it's true. They said things along those lines. It's just 79 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: that's good. Um. Another one is that there was an 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: alien abduction. That's what I'm signing with. Have you heard 81 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: of Irene Craig mile Bolum. Yeah, that was the Apparently, 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: there was one theory that Amelia Earhart just assumed the 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: life of a New Jersey housewife by that name, a 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: successful banker who retired to become a New Jersey housewife. 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: She's a very worldly woman. She had her pilot's license 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: in the thirties. There was a lot of stuff that. Um. 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: She actually had a mutual end with Amelia Earhart. Um. 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: They kind of ran in the same circles. Um. And 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: not much as known of her life before World War Two. 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: She kind of appears out of nowhere. Supposedly, so alleged 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: this guy who was about to release a biography in 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies saying this lady is Amelia Earhart, and the 93 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: woman sued won one point five million dollars in the 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: book was never published, I believe. Interesting. Yeah, but the 95 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: guy was relentless after she died. Um, he asked to 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: be able to photograph and fingerprint her body, and the 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: family was like no, but he's taking it, Like exactly, 98 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: why would you not let me do that? You know, 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: because excuming your body isn't I think it was before 100 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: she was buried. He was trying to get her. Still. 101 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: I have a theory, Josh I'd like to have a 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: theory that if you asked one thousand people who Fred 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Noonon was, that nine of them would have no idea 104 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: who you we're talking. Yeah, I had no idea who 105 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: he was until I researched this. Fred Noonan was in 106 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: the plane in the Lockheed Electra as the navigator that 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: went down um on July supposedly when you might not 108 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: have seen him. There's a picture of him in their 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: heart and he is the quintessential old timey navigator. His 110 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: button down shirts buttoned all the way up to apple. 111 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: He's got like some um papers in this front shirt pocket. 112 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: His his his pants are pulled up to just below 113 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: his um his nipples, uh, and he just looks like 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: he's like all business. That's who I would hired a definitely. 115 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: And he was a good guy apparently, um there was 116 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: before before they went off on their um equatorial trip 117 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: around the world. Yeah, explained to people. Because some people 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: might not even know the back story, we assume everyone knows. 119 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: But what they were trying to do was circumnavigate the 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: globe along the equator, along the as long as you 121 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: could possibly take to get around the right. Obviously not 122 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: on when shot. They did this in installments, but they 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: were definitely not doing it in installments of four to 124 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: pop no. And by this time, we should also say, 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: this is nineteen thirty seven when they undertook this um trip. 126 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: But by this time a Melia he was already like 127 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: this worldwide, internationally famous figure. She was a well known pacifist, 128 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Um. She was a women's right 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: to advocate, like women can do anything that guys can 130 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: do kind of thing. Um. She was a study in 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: contrast though apparently like um, she had one of her 132 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: friends had given her at fifty chance of surviving this trip, 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and she actually agreed with it. Um. And she had 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: said that she wasn't worried for herself because she maintained 135 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: this um uh this uh what she called a feminine 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: um conceit that she was afraid of aging. So she 137 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: wasn't really worried about dying. But she was worried about 138 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Fred because he was like this nice guy with the family. 139 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: And she was right to worry because on July second, 140 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: ninety seven, they disappeared off the face of the earth. 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is she guts of steel steel. 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: She had already been awarded the Flying Cross UM by Congress. 143 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: She received the National Geographic Award from President of Herbert 144 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Hoover UM. She was the first woman to cross the Atlantic, 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: uh ten years before she'd broken in altitude record. UM. 146 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: She was the first woman to fly around the world. 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: So all of this in in about a ten or 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: twelve year career. She's done all this stuff. So when 149 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: she disappeared, the whole world knew. Oh yeah, it was big, 150 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: big news and uh she Well, we'll talk about where 151 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: she disappeared, UM broadly because they still don't know for sure, 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: which is one of the problems. She departed in her 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Lockkeeed Electra, which is to me one of the coolest 154 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: looking planes ever built, shiny silver, just really cool looking. Plain. 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: And she departed lie Papua New Guinea, Yes, Papua New Guinea, 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: to probably escape a key outbreak. Oh really, I don't know. 157 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: That's the only place that that is found. Well, they 158 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: departed lie to UM for one of the longest stretches 159 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: of this of this flight, and they were um setting 160 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: out for Howland Island, which was about miles away from 161 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: when they were going. Right, So consider this chuck. They 162 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: had already flown most of the way around the world, 163 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: they had seven thousand miles short, yeah, and then this 164 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: was the longest stretch and it was also um it 165 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: was going to eat up a lot of that last 166 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: seven thousand miles from Papua New Guinea to Howland Island. 167 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: And Howland Island itself was pretty small, yeah, a mile 168 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and a half by a half mile, yes, tiny little 169 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: and it only rose twenty ft out of the Pacific Ocean. Um. 170 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And basically these are tolls out there in the Pacific, 171 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: just basically columns coming out of the ocean floor and 172 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: that's it. So there's like no shelf on either side. 173 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to land on a postage stamp, I would think, right. 174 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: And it was very apparent to everybody in eating noon 175 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: In and Earhart and the US Coast Guard and government 176 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: that this is a very dangerous This is probably the 177 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: most dangerous leg of the journey. Um. So they had 178 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: a coast Guard cutter, the Itasca, who was tasked with 179 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: tracking them. It was it Tascad. Yeah, and they also 180 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: had two additional ships um for markers to help her along. 181 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: So she wasn't just completely out there alone. They were 182 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: they were trying to keep up with her because every 183 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, clearly everyone had added a stake in her 184 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: being successful. And I say her and Fred, Poor Fred, 185 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: he just he never gets any accolades. You know, no 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: one even knows who he is. No one knows who 187 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: he is. So Fred was trying to use um celestial navigation, 188 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: but it was really overcast, so we couldn't do that. Uh. 189 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: They fell out of radio contact and at dawned the 190 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: it Taska picked up a transmission where she said that 191 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: noon in kind of figured that they were should be 192 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: just over where they were the boat, which was right 193 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: off of the shore of how all In Island, right, 194 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: but apparently they didn't see her and uh them the 195 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: lock keyed Electra and they they didn't hear. There was 196 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: no trace of it. They hadn't pretty sure that they 197 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: were way off, and about an hour after that they 198 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: knew the fuel was running low. And about an hour 199 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: after that they got the final transmission from her, which 200 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: basically um just said, we are running north to south. 201 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Those were her last words that anyone ever heard. Very 202 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: sad so about that time, UM the news got back 203 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: that they never showed up to Holland Island. UM and 204 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: President Roosevelt, who was a friend of hers. He also 205 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: was a great admirer of hers as well. Um ordered 206 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: a massive search by the Navy, and remember we said 207 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: the Japanese helped as well. So it was a multinational 208 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: search and rescue UM mission that covered a quarter of 209 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: a million square miles. Yeah, that is a huge, huge area. Yeah, 210 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Texas is um a little less than two hundred and 211 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: seventy thousand, so it's it's just slightly less than the 212 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: state of Texas. Right, And it was open water that 213 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: they're searching, right, Um, they and and and you know 214 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: the old joke is look at all that water, and 215 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the reply is yeah, and that's just the top of it. Right, 216 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: that's one of the problems. Yeah, exactly, you're scanning area 217 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: the size of Texas and what possibly lies beneath all that, right, 218 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: And um, but you're hoping that if, if, if the 219 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: thing broke up, you would find some wreckage, some sign 220 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: of license. They found nothing, no, nothing that they could 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: link to air Heart or noon and like they just disappeared. Um. 222 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: And actually FDR took a lot of flak, we should say, 223 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: because he spent four million bucks in the middle of 224 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: the Great Depression just to search for this one person 225 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: or well these two people see poor Fred noon in Um, 226 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: but he always stood by that as far as I know. Um. Again, though, 227 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: is a fruitless search. And they turned up thing right. 228 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: I think they'd be a great band name. I know 229 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I say that, but poor Fred Noonan that's a good one. 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: I have to remember that in case l cheap over 231 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: breaks up. Uh. After the navy search, they basically discontinued 232 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: their search and said, you know what, we can't find 233 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: her and Fred and um, we're going to send a 234 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: destroyer out to Gardner Island. It was called Gardener Island 235 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: back then and now it's uh nick umar roo nick 236 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: kumar ro nikumaroo. And uh they did this because radio 237 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: transmissions on her frequency we're being broadcast in that area 238 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: there were, which is pretty substantial. Yes, this is an 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: uninhabited area. And um, this is still an unexplained aspect 240 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: of this mystery. There were sporadic bursts of radio transmissions um, 241 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: and no one still can say why they were. They 242 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: were from some guy named Fred noon and so they 243 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: didn't pay exactly. They're like, who's that he's seen? Ali, 244 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: I guess he's a swimmer. Um. So They basically sent 245 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: a couple of dispatch planes um to that island, found 246 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: nothing and said, all right, we're calling off this area. 247 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: That she's not out here, there's no evidence of life. Right, 248 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: and that would have been that that was seven right, 249 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: and the planes went back to the destroyer their aircraft 250 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: carrier and left. Uh and that that that wouldn't that 251 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: probably would have been the end of the association between 252 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Gardener Island or or Nika and Nick umar ro Ro 253 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: and Amelia Earhart had it not been colonized by the 254 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: British and ight hadn't not been for their pin shot 255 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: for colonization. Yes, period. If British imperialism didn't exist, this 256 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: probably these these artifacts Nember would have turned up. But 257 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: there um there how they like to colonize things. They 258 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: colonize this remote outpost actually gathered up some other islanders 259 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: nearby and said, hey, you're gonna live here now. Um. 260 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: And when these islanders went on the island, they found 261 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: evidence that a castaway had been there recently. They found 262 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: some pretty jarring stuff, right Chuck, Yeah, And I mean 263 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: most certainly a castaway, because they found a woman shoe, 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: a man shoe, liquor bottle, well, yeah, and a container 265 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: for a sextant, which is one of those you know, 266 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: those are the cool looking navigational device that you hold 267 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: up and it looks like something at a League of 268 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Extraordinary Gentlemen or something, which Fred Nowtan had on the 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: plane with them, of course he did, you know Fred. Uh. 270 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: And then they also found um, certainly not the least 271 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: of which would be human skull and bones. Yeah. Here's 272 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: here's where this thing would be just done, probably in 273 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, or where they just say this is them. Yeah, yeah, um, 274 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: they found one set of human remains. Um. The the 275 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: islanders took this to the governor of the island. His 276 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: name was, uh, Gerald, I can't remember, Gerald Gallagher, Thanks buddy. 277 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: They took it to Gerald gallaghery Gallagher says, I suspect 278 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I know who this is. Let's get a physician looking 279 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: at this. The physician examines it, and the bones are 280 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: promptly lost forever. No one has any idea what happened 281 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: to him. Luckily, this physician took pretty methodical notes and 282 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: wrote descriptions and drew drawings with the bones, and so 283 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: in the nineties some forensic anthropologists got their hands on 284 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: these notes and they said pretty much unequivocally that these 285 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: bones were the bones of a woman of Northern European 286 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: ancestry who was about five ft seven and Amelia her 287 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: heart was five eight. Well, you would think they're off 288 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: by an inch. It wasn't her exactly, But in this 289 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: day and age, you have to have DNA evidence to controvertibly. Right. Sure, 290 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: so the bones go missing, we can't get a DNA match. 291 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: But consider that on an uninhabited island, right where they 292 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: think that Amelia Earhart might have gone down, the remains 293 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: of a woman of Northern European ancestry who was pretty 294 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: much the same high his Amelia heart were found a 295 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: few years after disappearance. I say score, I say scores, game, 296 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: set match. But they also found some other cool stuff. Um, 297 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: and the area of the island was called seven Site, 298 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: and that was the little encampment that they believe, you know, 299 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: was used by them. And they found some other cool 300 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: stuff like clamshell fragments that basically they were smashed open 301 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: by somebody right and exposed to fire, which you know, 302 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: unless they were struck by lightning, that's pretty much definitive 303 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: evidence of human use. Well, yeah, and they also found 304 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: bones of fish and birds and turtles that had been 305 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: exposed to fire. So in other words, somebody was cooking 306 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: up something to eat. Uh. What else did they found? 307 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: They found, Um, they found pieces of bottle that show 308 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: signs of use is cutting and sawing tools. Yeah. UM. 309 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: They also found a little piece of a knife, UM, 310 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: which they managed. I don't know how they did this, 311 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: because you sent me this link. There's a picture of 312 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: just the knife blade. And they went back and managed 313 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: to identify it as a type of jack knife that 314 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: was produced within this time period by this company Rhode Island, 315 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: so it was it was produced from ninety ninety two 316 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: or something like that. And then they went back this year. 317 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: This group called the UM we should say their name 318 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery or TIGAR. Yeah, 319 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: they've been I think three or four different times over 320 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: the years to this island. They went this summer as 321 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: I was writing this, they were preparing the expedition and 322 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: they found the rest of the knife. UM. And this 323 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: is where they hoped to get DNA evidence from. Well yeah, 324 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: and not the reason that the knife discovery is important 325 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: or the rest of the knife. They originally found the 326 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: blades only, and then they found the knife this summer, 327 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: and it showed that the knife blades had been forcibly 328 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: removed from the knife, indicating that maybe that they took 329 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: out each blade too. Maybe and of course you're speculating, 330 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: but maybe to attach it to an end of a 331 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: spear or something like that for fish fishing. Anyone was 332 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: seeing castaway knows what that's all about. I saw that 333 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: the other day again by the way um there. They 334 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: also found Gardner Island, by the way, became uninhabited in 335 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. There was a prolonged drought and the 336 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: British government, we're just like, just forgive it, everybody, just 337 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: leave Um and the group Tighar when they went to 338 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: excavate around there, they found in this abandoned village folk 339 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: art made of aluminum aircraft metal right, which they can't 340 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: definitively prove came from her plane. Obviously, there's a lot 341 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: of circumstantial evidence of female castaway handicrafts or maybe Tom 342 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: he was the big crafty guy, but there Um, I 343 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: don't think Tom made it. I think Amelia Earhart made it. 344 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I think Tom was maybe kill an impact or drowned 345 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: and Amelia made it to the island and died there alone, 346 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: quite possibly, and she may have even eaten him. Now 347 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: that's a that's that's a new theory. I think you'd launched. 348 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that goes in with your disappearance of 349 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: the Neanderthals. That's right, they melted, Um, you you were. 350 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: The reason we're talking about these objects that they've recently recovered, though, 351 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: is because they're trying to get some DNA called touch 352 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: DNA off of a few of these items. They submitted 353 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: ten I believe out of a hundred. It's one of 354 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: the reasons why finding that knife was very important. Is 355 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: huge because I believe they submitted the blades, and then 356 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: they found some glass from what looked like a cosmetics 357 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: star and a couple of buttons, and they submitted these 358 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: things to a place in Canada. And I think as 359 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: of today, I still don't think they have the results 360 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: of that DNA testing done. That I see that they 361 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: had it done yet so guarded, but they wouldn't be 362 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: such enormous news that we would have known. That's what 363 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: I think, um Chuck. There's a lot of people out 364 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: there who also think that her plane sur survived intact 365 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: and is at the bottom of the Pacific. That's awesome, 366 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: And people still I think tig are included um undertake 367 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: sonar searches of the ocean bottom. Uh. And there's a 368 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: good chance that the plane did make it. Um. They 369 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: were flying supposedly at about a thousand feet, which is 370 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: extremely low, and they were doing about a hundred miles 371 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: an hour, which is pretty slow for a plane, especially 372 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: a Lockheed Electra, so conceivably didn't necessarily bust into a 373 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: million pieces. Yeah, so it's possible it's still out there 374 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ocean. Well, I I am 375 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: totally sold. And I know I said like every single 376 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: Jack the Ripper killer we brought up. Yeah, he sounds 377 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: like the guy. But I'm completely convinced that this is 378 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: where she spent her last days like you, and that 379 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: she ate Fred noon In. I don't know that Fred 380 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: or Fred. Uh. We should also mention too that UM 381 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: they use a new well new to them at least 382 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: ground penetrating radar g PR for the first time on 383 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: this last trip to summer, and that is when you 384 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: can actually look beneath the surface for anything that was buried. 385 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Like Fred, it's magic and um. They they didn't find 386 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: anything though, because not because there was anything there necessarily, 387 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: but there were lots of roots and air pockets underneath 388 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: the thing. And I get the feeling that this looks 389 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: since you're looking for something buried, looked for pockets of air, 390 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: and so that it was completely in conclusive. They threw 391 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: in the ocean. She may have also pulverized his bones 392 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: to cover up her abomination. Yeah, I wonder it's I 393 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: think this is what happened. I wonder how long they 394 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: survived though. I wonder if it was weeks or months 395 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: or what. Well consider it. I mean, if her plane 396 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: went down in ninety seven and they started colonizing at 397 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: ninety eight, she lasted less than a year. But can 398 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: you imagine if she like just gave up and then 399 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: like a week later the British come to colonized Gardener Island. Yeah, 400 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how horrible would that be? So she she 401 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: made it less than a year, if she made it 402 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to Gardner Islander, Nicol mro ro what I'm surprised about, 403 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: And maybe she tried to do this and Fred tried 404 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: to do this. I'm surprised she didn't leave something behind, 405 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: like instead of doing a handicraft. Maybe try and scratch 406 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: the name Amelia into the aluminum and bury that or something, 407 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: or maybe it's something is there and they just haven't 408 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: found it yet. Yeah, there's a tree that says crow 409 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: with towing on it because she was a history buff, 410 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Amelia was here. Well that's uh, that's it as it 411 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: stands so far. Huh. You think we'll ever do an 412 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: update if they find her. We always say we will, 413 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: and we never do, and we never do. So the 414 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: answer to that question is no. If you want to 415 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: learn more about Amelia Earhart and see a picture of 416 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: how cute Fred Noonan is and it's little old timey 417 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: aviator get up, you should type air heart into the 418 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: search bar at how stuff works dot com. It's e 419 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: A R H A r T and that should bring 420 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: it up. I would think unless we have articles on 421 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: other air hearts, think so. I guess it's time then 422 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: for a listener man. All right, Yeah, I got one here. 423 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: I asked for rehab experiences quite a while ago, and 424 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: I've got one that I meant to read earlier, and 425 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: here it is, and I'm gonna jump around here. It's 426 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of along. Uh. This is from Scott and in 427 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: two thousand five, he had pretty much worked himself into 428 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: a rehab hospital. He was working three different jobs, hit 429 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: a wall, couldn't decide to walk this way or that way, 430 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: or even pick up a pencil, so he went to 431 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: the er. After a fifteen minute interview with a psychiatrist 432 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: who he said was quite attractive. I'm not sure why 433 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: he told me that, he said. She left and a 434 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: guard came to stand outside the room and she said, 435 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: you know you're not just gonna take a break. She said, 436 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: you need to be checked in. And this is how 437 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: I learned of the seventy two hour hold, where a 438 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: doctor decides you're at risk. So that's what happened to 439 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: him initially. Next I wound up in an ambulance for 440 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: a trip to a cyclocked downward called Station two. It 441 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: sounds like the beginning of a very bad movie, like 442 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: a horror film exactly. They dropped me off behind two 443 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: heavily locked doors, and the next thing you knew, I 444 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: was relieved of my laces and belt. Now I should 445 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: say I was not suicidal. I was just really out 446 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: of ideas. I don't I don't know what that means, 447 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: out of ideas like he was. He had he was indecisive, 448 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: he couldn't know. I think he means he was just 449 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: burned out, was having a nervous breakdown, out of options, 450 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: out of ideas. Yeah, it sounds like it. I spent 451 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: eight days in Station twenty two and saw some interesting things, 452 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: and here are a few. A meth addict was admitted. 453 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: She looked like she should weigh about a hundred and 454 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: ten to a hundred twenty pounds, but she weighed more 455 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: like eighty. She took one drink of orange juice promptly 456 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: dropped to the floor like a sack of bones. And 457 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: this is what I learned. What a code red was 458 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: the crash cart, the e er in the whole parade. 459 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: After leaving Station twenty two, I transferred to a place 460 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: in the suburbs for a twenty eight day program. It 461 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I met a very well known author 462 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: and many other fascinating people. I saw the girl sneaking 463 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: out of the guy's room. The whole thing had to 464 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: bear the A A rhymes and sayings, and I totally 465 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: understand Sandra Bullock. In twenty eight days, now the big 466 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: news was the guy who wrote a million little pieces 467 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: I was coming the next week because he had stayed 468 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: there before when he was writing the book, and the 469 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Oprah people came on site to work out camera locations 470 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: in blocking and uh, two days before they were to 471 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: descend the I made it up scandal occurred, so I 472 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: never showed clearly. Um, and here just a few other 473 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: little tips. People in rehab are insane about sweets. I 474 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: think there's a definite link between sugar and addiction. Everyone 475 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: seemed to want to hook up with something sweet. Um. 476 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: I have seen that heroin sickness looks worse than dying 477 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: in a fire. Wow, that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. 478 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: And a surprising number of people were repeats I'm talking like, yeah, 479 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: this is my seventh time here. And I also saw 480 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people who snuck off for a drink 481 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: and got kicked out. So Scott is doing much better now. 482 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: He is back on track, living a great Lifett and 483 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: he says, I love what you guys do and how 484 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: you do it. I now give Takiva and co Ed 485 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: and pretty much pace the halls into your next episode. Awesome, 486 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Scott. I'm very glad you're feeling better. Right, 487 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: took as long as you're not pacing the halls of 488 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: Station twenty two. Buddy. Um, keep in touch with this 489 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: on Facebook and Twitter? Yeah, yeah, you know quickly? Can 490 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I say that? 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