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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: They had media night last night down in New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't have the organic nature it used to have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm just jelly because I'm not down there.

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Speaker 4: With Myles Garrett. It's the same situation, like he obviously

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Speaker 4: wants out of Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: I heard it might go to the Lakers exactly if

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Speaker 5: you're gonna do that joke, right, it's the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Paul doesn't like the Celtics and Evan done.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's not true.

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Speaker 2: I don't I get Why do they want to trade

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Speaker 2: him just to offload the salary. He's not toast. He

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Speaker 2: might be injured, but when he's out there, he's done

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Speaker 2: okay lately, but he's okay. He toasts.

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Speaker 4: He's in the toaster, like I don't know if he's done,

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Speaker 4: but warming.

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Speaker 6: You're only the first setting. It's like lightly brown.

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Speaker 2: There's no difference between a rub and a pick. I

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Speaker 2: totally agree, right, right.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, cold and snowy, and we're expecting even

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Speaker 2: more snow for Super Bowl Sunday. So if you've got plans,

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Speaker 2: you might want to get there early and don't plan

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to we're supposed to get dumped on anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'll be warm and cozy in the house watching Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I watch all the pregame stuff. Do you guys watch

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Speaker 2: the previews? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you get into that.

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Speaker 6: I put it on so I like to have the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: That's not watch I'm with my So what I'll do,

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Speaker 2: I'll put on ESPN early and then as soon as

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Speaker 2: I turned to that and all the way through.

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Speaker 6: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: That's my plan.

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Speaker 5: I just like watching pre game stuff.

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Speaker 4: No, because usually got a lot of ball knowing we're

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Speaker 4: in transit to wherever we're going to be watching the game.

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that, but the Puppy Bowl. Probably

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Speaker 6: Very cute.

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Speaker 4: Yep ye catch a little bit of that.

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Speaker 2: So at seven, it's Paul, it's Deuce. It's still a

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Speaker 2: well tanned Alex And yeah, Tanorama, is that what you're doing? No, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's all natural. So we're talking Patriots and everything else

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours. We did have a big

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Speaker 2: announcement from the Patriots, you know, not breaking news, but

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Speaker 2: it firmed up all the reports that we've been talking

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Speaker 2: about in terms of who are the coaches going to be.

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Speaker 2: And Paul, you have that list in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to go down the list and let us know

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five new England Patriots coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: So we can now no longer have to say that

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Speaker 5: these aren't official. These are now official. So offensively we

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Speaker 5: have Josh McDaniel's defensive coordinator obviously, Thomas Brown tight ends

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Speaker 5: do that right, perfect, assistant offensive line, Robert Coogler assistant

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Speaker 5: the moment. Todd downing wide receivers, Tony Dues, running backs

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Speaker 5: Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinn will handle the special teams.

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Speaker 5: Springer is the special teams coordinator, Tom Quinn as he

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Speaker 5: Terrell Williams. We talked about him a little bit last week.

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Speaker 5: Defensive coordinator inside linebackers, Zach Kerr said, Mike, you can

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Speaker 5: Justin Hamilton will handle the cornerbacks. Clint McMillan defensive line.

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Speaker 5: This is the newest one that I just heard about yesterday.

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Speaker 5: So also Doron Mayo is the special Uh. I mean

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Speaker 5: Stretch vice president of Football ops in strategy, and Frank

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Speaker 4: So he's the real Yeah, that's my strength and conditioning coach,

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Speaker 2: A new position. I don't think they had that position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's uh now, all made official late yesterday by

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Speaker 2: Now you said you had something on Dante.

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Speaker 5: Uh Now, these gentlemen went back and heard his He

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Speaker 2: Well, but even just someone who's a phone call away.

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Speaker 2: You know, how did you deal with this when you

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Speaker 4: If it sounded to me based off of listening to

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Speaker 2: In any event, the staff is now official, it's been released.

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Speaker 2: You can get that on Patriots dot com. I know

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of new names, so if you want

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Speaker 2: all on Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 6: I haven't wrote up in an analysis as well, yep of it.

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Speaker 2: Of years now. There is another part of you know

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Speaker 6: Ye, yeah, I know who I'm interested in. Fred and

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Speaker 6: I got to witness a little bit of their interaction.

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Speaker 6: I know Evnant did too. Is stretch and he just

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Speaker 6: Consolo Chewbacca, but they just seem like two peas in

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Speaker 6: And it seems like Rabel goes right to him with everything,

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Speaker 6: So it's an interesting new relations So we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Situational football.

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Speaker 5: He has not taken the mauld was not taking the course.

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Speaker 2: And it just seemed like Mayo was handed the people

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Speaker 8: Could get based on advice and trust.

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Speaker 2: This seems like there was more thought and into this,

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Speaker 6: Thing that's just interesting to me with the quote from

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Speaker 6: identify to identify loyal, trustworthy coaches who are diverse and back.

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Speaker 6: I just I thought loy oil and trustworthy. Just it

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think going back to Parcells, who was the first

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe this is a stretch, but stretch, But you

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Speaker 5: I'm interested in that.

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Speaker 6: Ye I tickled your fancy with that bar.

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Speaker 5: Now I don't have an answer. I have nothing, not

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Speaker 6: The season gets its interesting, you know, trades, I mean

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Speaker 4: There's a there's a leak that the league closes very

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Speaker 4: In particular with one of the guys, I think is

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a thing called the Management Council dat dashboard. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Wow, So somebody could hack into that.

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Speaker 4: That was the That was the the scuttle butt was

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Speaker 4: You know, they'll they'll figure out.

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Speaker 5: He has access to the council. I don't have that, right.

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Speaker 5: That's what that's going is why he's getting Well.

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Speaker 2: No, it's supposed to have that, yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: My point is that it's not like they're talking to

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Speaker 5: So I wondered because a lot of these guys have

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Speaker 2: It could be Yeah, just as credible.

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Speaker 6: So you have access to that system?

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Speaker 5: Hell no, hell don't you send us that.

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Speaker 2: My only experience with it is there were a couple

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Speaker 2: it's okay to talk to Alex. But the reason so

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Speaker 6: Do you ever get like the book in your town

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can request Bill Belichick's contract and they have

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Speaker 9: Ye.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what else do we got? We got

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Speaker 6: He beat uh Parsons.

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Speaker 2: He's a.

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Speaker 6: Kind of funny. I mean, you would expect the youngest

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Speaker 2: Anything you could play in the basement of living, really

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Speaker 4: I was not surprised to hear that he won, because

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Speaker 6: Does does he have no, he's got not for the

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see it. Didn't look like they were.

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Speaker 6: Well, I love it.

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Speaker 8: The ping pong table every couple of months.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the story that he told. It was

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, after that performance in the Pro Bowl games, I

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Speaker 4: But this is more important.

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Speaker 6: I feel great now we're on track.

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Speaker 5: A little ping pong more important than throwing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Vertically and horizoned exactly.

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Speaker 4: technically request so many interviews at the combine, so you

441
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Speaker 4: have to get that list together and and sort of

442
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Speaker 4: put a close to the in person scouting. Now that

443
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Speaker 4: the All Star Games are over and get into this part.

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Speaker 2: Can you ask guys to show up at your facility

445
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Speaker 2: and do private workouts.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the actual date, but I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's definitely after the com after the combin Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get an early look at somebody, I

449
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Speaker 2: don't think so no, no, and thereby not having to

450
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Speaker 2: interview that many at the combine.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I see, I don't believe so no, But you

452
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Speaker 4: can go to their campus as many times as you.

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Speaker 2: Want, starting one now, No, after I think it's after

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Speaker 2: the combat, after the combine. Right, you can go, right,

455
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Speaker 2: you can go anywhere you want. It's just you're limited

456
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Speaker 2: to how many you can bring here.

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Speaker 4: Correct, yep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that we'll look forward to that. We'll have

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Speaker 2: a full contingent down at the Combine producing content and reports.

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Speaker 2: So looking forward to that number five, number five.

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Speaker 5: Fred, you and I will anchor coverage from Yep, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Be here, correct, yep.

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Speaker 6: Check in with you guys, give you the move.

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Speaker 2: Has that any word any word about Barth? Have they

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Speaker 2: opened up the purse strings to allow him to go?

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Speaker 4: He told me that he was going to play your

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Speaker 4: your rant for his bosses.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's why I did. That's why I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I told him we could get him a cot,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'll put him in the hallway or something.

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Speaker 8: It was like a divider wall. Maybe you sleep on

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Speaker 8: one side his heads.

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Speaker 4: Next year, I will admit we have shared a hotel

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Speaker 4: room together, but ahead him on the other side of

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Speaker 4: the queen And yeah, that's fine. And in a couple

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Speaker 4: of places Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Imagine you guys, just like, who are you thinking about?

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Speaker 4: Mason?

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Speaker 5: Nice thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Barth talks into sleep, so Evan stays up.

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Speaker 4: And it's been a while. So it's been since the

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Speaker 4: Clintons days since we've done that. So it's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what else? What else? We're going to do

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Speaker 2: their super Bowl We're going to do our super Bowl

486
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Speaker 2: picks later in the show. Got some props there, you

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Speaker 2: have some props.

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Speaker 5: I did a few, not not a ton, but I

489
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Speaker 5: just did some straightforward stuff like like Matt usually does

490
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Speaker 5: for the weekly stuff, you know, Barkley rushing yards and

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Speaker 5: my homes passing and all that kind.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to call in and give us

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Speaker 2: your super Bowl pick, maybe Paul will keep a poll

494
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Speaker 2: and we'll see what put a little pole to get

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Speaker 2: a little poll together. Chiefs of Eagles.

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Speaker 5: If I do have some over unders for the newsletter

497
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Speaker 5: coming up, I got to answer those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight five five pass five hundred is the TPX

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Speaker 2: Outline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email address.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of emails coming in.

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Speaker 5: So a bunch of reads.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I just want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that we got everything on the table before we get

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Speaker 2: into our listeners.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's about.

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Speaker 2: Anything happened down the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: So how about this for the Super Bowl? I would say,

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Speaker 5: if you guys disagree, you can let me know. But

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Speaker 5: I would say it's been kind of quiet. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: would you say, this is not necessarily uh.

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Speaker 6: The Miles Scares superquesting a trade. I feel like it's

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Speaker 6: one of the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the super Trade.

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Speaker 5: That's where I was going to get.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 5: They kind of kind of they kind of hijacked the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl week.

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Speaker 2: No, a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Luca Do trade is one of the

520
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Speaker 4: most surprising trades of my lifetime.

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Speaker 8: Videos were like DJ's were in a club and they

522
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Speaker 8: stocked their set to announce the trade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, there's been some really big shocking trade.

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Speaker 8: I can remember it, but.

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Speaker 5: That's obviously the biggest. But there's other like the Jimmy

526
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Speaker 5: Butler trade is big too. There was even.

527
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Speaker 8: Fans breaking for the trade. Chris Loved sitting on the

528
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Speaker 8: bench was kind of wild. Kevin Love. That's I love

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Speaker 8: Kevin Love, like.

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Speaker 4: We know maybe yeah, we really.

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Speaker 8: He did some great some great modeling. He had a

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Speaker 8: Banana Republic campaign. I really enjoyed. His wife is a

533
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Speaker 8: great model that I like her too.

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Speaker 4: We got it. They all love Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Isn't he really old? Yeah, but I just feel like

536
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Speaker 6: he's been.

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Speaker 4: Around NBA talk for you, getting back to football.

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Speaker 2: Your show tried to make some news yesterday. They weren't successful,

539
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Speaker 2: but they had Malcolm Butler on Felger and Mas and

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Speaker 2: they peppered him trying again. You know, you know, Malcolm

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Speaker 2: was sticking to the coach's decision answer.

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Speaker 6: What was that like for you guys when you were

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Speaker 6: you guys went to that Super Bowl, right, you actually

544
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Speaker 6: got to watch it from the building in the.

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Speaker 5: Side top some more of my Facebook memories that have

546
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Speaker 5: just been peppering me all week.

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Speaker 6: What was that because I don't know. I mean I

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Speaker 6: remember on TV they were talking about it, but it

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Speaker 6: was not just out of nowhere. I mean, I know

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Speaker 6: there was reports that he like came late, was sick, like.

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Speaker 5: Reports before the game.

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Speaker 6: There was nothing about it. It was just Malcolm Butler

553
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Speaker 6: crying on the sidelines during the game.

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Speaker 5: Andy and I and we didn't know that, like the

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Speaker 5: whole crying on the sideline because you know, we're in

556
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Speaker 5: the auxiliary press box, just not the same as spots

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Speaker 5: where Fred is so Andy and I are sitting there

558
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Speaker 5: and it was like maybe the second series and it

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Speaker 5: kind of dawned on us and I go, hey, did

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Speaker 5: you see he goes Butler? And I go, yeah, he

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Speaker 5: goes no. And it was like the second series before

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Speaker 5: we realized this is a guy who plays like every

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Speaker 5: play and he hasn't been on the field yet. And

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Speaker 5: then we didn't realize that, you know, al Michaels would

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Speaker 5: you know they had talked about it and they showed

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Speaker 5: that clip that's now sort of iconic.

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Speaker 2: Well, there wasn't.

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Speaker 5: No, we had no idea.

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Speaker 2: There was a report that was kind of circulating in

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis about the week before they got there that he

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Speaker 2: was either sick or he was late.

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Speaker 5: Later he came, he came late. But that a lot

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Speaker 5: of this stuff came out after.

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Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that was going around before,

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Speaker 2: like Malcolm was in trouble.

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Speaker 5: Or maybe maybe maybe I just didn't know about it,

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Speaker 5: But I think I think that was afterwards. But you

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Speaker 5: could be right, that was before.

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Speaker 2: But they tried like hell to get him to open up,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't do it.

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Speaker 6: Nothing often go to his grave with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to go to his grave with it.

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Speaker 4: They're going to profit big lely off of like some

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Speaker 4: tell all books.

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Speaker 8: Say he was going to write a book last year.

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Speaker 4: I think he was making fun of people. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: that's like the kind of where it's going now kind

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Speaker 4: of makes me feel like they're waiting for the right

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Speaker 4: moment to like strike on on announcing this or revealing

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Speaker 4: this to.

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Speaker 2: My all I can guess is that the answer doesn't

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Speaker 2: benefit either side. There's in other words, there's incentive for

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Speaker 2: both sides to remain quiet.

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Speaker 6: I agree, right, Yeah, it doesn't make Malcolm look good

595
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Speaker 6: and it does doesn't make Bill look good either.

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Speaker 5: So there was there was a story and I told

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Speaker 5: you about this. Mike the Ringer had a pretty i

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Speaker 5: mean pretty lengthy feature on Malcolm Butler in the play,

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Speaker 5: you know, sort of his his rising, you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: quick exit from the league. And it was it wasn't

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Speaker 5: really anything newsworthy. It was no noteworthy items that we

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Speaker 5: all didn't already know. But I did think it was

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Speaker 5: it was funny and they had they had a lot

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Speaker 5: of quotes from Logan Ryan, from Devin mccordy in the piece,

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Speaker 5: and at one point Devin said that they were like,

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Speaker 5: you know, come on, you know, why is he not playing?

607
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Speaker 5: Why is he not playing? And they went to I

608
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Speaker 5: think it was Boyer, Josh Boyer, and said, come on,

609
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Speaker 5: you gotta put you gotta put Malcolm in the game.

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Speaker 5: And Boyer just said to him that it's not my call,

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Speaker 5: it's the head that's that's the head coach. The head

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Speaker 5: coach won't let me, I think was the quote that

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Speaker 5: Boyer had. So I did find it's kind of interesting

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Speaker 5: that you came down.

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Speaker 2: The only interesting thing I thought that maybe shed a

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Speaker 2: little light on it that Malcolm said yesterday is they're

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Speaker 2: asking him like, what about like just getting in the

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Speaker 2: second half, and he's like, well, maybe they thought it.

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Speaker 2: I'd it'd be even worse if I was in there.

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Speaker 6: How could it be worse? Definitely the right right Jonathan

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Speaker 6: badam Mos remember.

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Speaker 5: Him, Johnson Johnson remember her respect on the name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was.

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Speaker 11: I did.

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Speaker 5: I did think it was funny when I think Felger

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Speaker 5: tried to sort of get into it. He's like, so,

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Speaker 5: you know, like there's been a lot of a lot

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Speaker 5: of rumors, a lot of stories about that, and he

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Speaker 5: goes like, well what stories, And he goes, well, what

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Speaker 5: did you hear? And he goes that you got in

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Speaker 5: a fight with Seve Buch. He was like right, and

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Speaker 5: you know, he wouldn't budge. He's like, coach decision. That

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Speaker 5: was it.

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Speaker 2: You know, watching that game, it was so frustrating because

635
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Speaker 2: Brady is having historical and historical Super Bowl offensive game.

636
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Speaker 2: You know, we ends up with over five hundred yards

637
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Speaker 2: up and down the field, but we just couldn't get

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Speaker 2: a stop, couldn't get a stop, and at some point,

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Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest defensive minds in football

640
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Speaker 2: history has to say I gotta try something, but he

641
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Speaker 2: refused to do it. And that's something obviously was Malcolm Butler.

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Speaker 2: It just watched Philadelphia go up and down with Nick

643
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Speaker 2: Foles was so damn frustrating.

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Speaker 6: Do you look at it anything different now? After that

645
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Speaker 6: Dynasty doc where it really seemed like they painted the

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Speaker 6: picture that in twenty seventeen was where it felt like

647
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Speaker 6: Bill kind of started to there were some cracks in

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Speaker 6: the foundation of him having the team. And I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I mean if that was a symptom or one of

650
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Speaker 6: the reasons why, But I guess in hindsight now it

651
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Speaker 6: makes a little bit more sense to me of things

652
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Speaker 6: were starting to well, I could go great now.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I don't know if what the Dynasty was saying

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Speaker 2: is accurate or not, but I thought that they they

655
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Speaker 2: were trying to tell us that Belichick himself started to

656
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Speaker 2: change a little bit after Spygate, where he's like he

657
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Speaker 2: could trust even less. Like he was always a distrustful person,

658
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: you know, close loop of people, but after that he

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Speaker 2: trust even less people and became even more insular. And

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Speaker 2: after Spygate, because you know, people around the league who

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Speaker 2: we thought like he was in a fraternity with like

662
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Speaker 2: we're saying stuff about him, and so he started to

663
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: change after that. That's what I thought the documentary was

664
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: trying to tell us. I don't know if it's true

665
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: or not, but that's a message that I got from it.

666
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get Mike's point, though to me, it makes

667
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: it more amazing that they were able to come back

668
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: and win it in eighteen. Now, I think that most

669
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: Patriots fans would say that that was a team that

670
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: maybe out of that era, you know, the least likely.

671
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 5: I mean, when you were getting into December and losing

672
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: those games to Miami and Pittsburgh, I don't think a

673
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: lot of people are like, yeah, yeah, yes, we're gonna

674
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: go and they're gonna win number six. Even though you know,

675
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: there was confidence that you know, as long as you

676
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: got Brady and Belichick, you got a shot that kind

677
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: of stuff. But they did not look good. That team

678
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: was not playing great, and they ended up winning the

679
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: Super Bowl anyway. But I think the part of what

680
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: Mike is saying, like the cracks, but I can't believe

681
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 5: the play Miami happened even now, like a Bill Belichick

682
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: coach team allowed that play to happen. Still kind of

683
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: every time I see it, I'm almost as much astounded

684
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 5: by it as I was when it happened in real time.

685
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: So you can kind of understand what Mike's talking about

686
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: the cracks that were starting to show eighteen.

687
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: Definitely in the regular season I covered that team and

688
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: that that offense was already.

689
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: Well on the eighteen offense, Does like take a step back?

690
00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: All, No, we're time.

691
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: No, But I can ask all of you obviously, But

692
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: does Josh McDaniels not get enough credit for the way

693
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: the offense kind of changed up gears toward the end

694
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: of the season.

695
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: You can make that argument. Yeah, I mean, definitely those

696
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: last two weeks of the season, they said we're gonna,

697
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: as they like to call it a regular team, We're

698
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: gonna put the full back in the backfield, we're gonna

699
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: run the ball, and we're gonna do that sort of thing.

700
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: And they kind of warmed up to it those last

701
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: two weeks of the year against the Bills and the Jets,

702
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: I think it was, and then that carried over into

703
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: the playoffs. But really, to me, like Edelman in particular,

704
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: like turned another gear on in the postseason. I he

705
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: was great throughout that entire postseason run. So he sort

706
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: of flipped the switch. And then they had just enough

707
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: Gronk still that he made some big plays, you know,

708
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: in overtime against Case and the Super Bowl to get

709
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: them over the top. But I mean they were relying

710
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: on Josh Gordon to be an impact player for them

711
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: in eighteen during the regular season, and you could tell

712
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: already that the attrition out wide receiver and at the

713
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: pass catcher positions was was already catching up to them,

714
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: and especially because Gronk just wasn't the same guy. Like

715
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: Gronk was clearly slowed by injuries and things like that.

716
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: Remember at the beginning of that season, was it that

717
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season where for an instant

718
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: you had Antonio Brown and that was nineteen oh that

719
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: was the year after, and you're like, oh my god,

720
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna have this, Like yeah.

721
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 6: I mean, that was the Thomas for a minute too,

722
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 6: Like I've cut him, I think.

723
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 8: But Littleman was selling T shirts with all the receivers

724
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 8: like this, like they were like the Avenger receivers and stuff.

725
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 8: And then like three days later he had to be like,

726
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: all right, sorry about that, guys. If you bought the shirt, right.

727
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I remember I started here in twenty nineteen.

728
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 6: My first game in this job was at Pittsburgh opener

729
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 6: and they had acquired Antonio Brown I think earlier in

730
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: the day maybe or the day before Iron, and they

731
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 6: just rocked the Steelers and then you're like, this team's

732
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 6: gonna add Antonio Brown. I just remember that feeling up

733
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 6: there of like this thing ain't gonna stop, like you know,

734
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 6: and now you know, I get to see it firsthand,

735
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 6: and then you know, that team obviously just completely fell apart.

736
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: After that, there was a lot of signs of nineteen

737
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 4: and eighteen, and then Brady, Edelman and Gronk just turned

738
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: back the clock one more time for the playoff run

739
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: and we're able to do it. But it was already

740
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: kind of showing, and I think the relationships were. Looking

741
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: back on it, you could kind of tell that Brady

742
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: and Belichick were already icy.

743
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 8: And remember when Danny m and Dola left. I remember

744
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 8: Gronk writing like on his Instagram like You're finally free,

745
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 8: be free. Yeah, And that's when you were like, wait,

746
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 8: At least for me, that was the first time I

747
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 8: was like, wait, this isn't all like rainbows and kittens, and.

748
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 5: So we're all say that because that's the perspective of

749
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: someone that's still a fan, right still, for lack of

750
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 5: a better word, innocent. Yeah, Like we were talking on

751
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: this show, Fred, Mike and I and like talking about

752
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 5: a lot of these things, and remember how much pushback

753
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 5: we would get. This is around the time with a

754
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: Wickersham story started to happen, and you know, and not

755
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: to play my buddy Feldger's role, but you're making it up.

756
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 5: But they made fun of us all the time. Why

757
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: are you talking about this stuff? This is nonsense. This

758
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: is not like enemy number one, And it's like, no,

759
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 5: it was all happening, and it's probably way worse than

760
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: even we said at the time, and.

761
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Still know yeah, yeah, still we.

762
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: Probably don't know the half of it, how bad it was.

763
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 6: Well, hearing Devin's reaction, I just wonder, as a coach,

764
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 6: how do you get that trust back? Like you feel

765
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: like you're one of your best players in one of

766
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: the biggest moments is kind of being punished and you

767
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 6: don't maybe they know why, I don't know. I mean

768
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 6: this has ever come out? Does everyone know? Or is

769
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 6: this like a bill and Malcolm thing and no one

770
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 6: else has any idea.

771
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 8: I think it's got it. Like Fred said, I think

772
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 8: it has to be that bad where no one looks good.

773
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 8: And I can only understand that, and out of respect

774
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 8: for everyone involved, they've kept quiet.

775
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: If they do know, I can only know how many

776
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 5: people know, Yeah, I do. I wonder how many different

777
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: people know.

778
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

779
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 6: Well the way they cover it too, Now you have

780
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 6: to think that it's not just he had a bad

781
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: week of practice and we mentioned him like that. It's

782
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 6: not something simple like that. There's something juicy is the word,

783
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: but there's something there.

784
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what the people on that team, offense, defense,

785
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: and coaches were thinking going into that second half, and

786
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: as a key as Philadelphia is still moving the ball

787
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: and another drive goes by and he doesn't play, and

788
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: another series goes by, it's like, what's going on?

789
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: Especially like surprise wasn't a cop a revolt on like

790
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: where like you know he's going he's going back, just

791
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: like you know, like a guy like Devin who has

792
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: a lot of cachet with Bill going up to Bill

793
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: and being like you need we are in trouble, Like

794
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: you need to put this guy in.

795
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 5: That's kind of why I asked that question. I wonder

796
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: how many people actually know.

797
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also wonder, like by the third quarter

798
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: or something, if people didn't actually go up to mountain

799
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: him and then like, no's he's jelly, he's he can't function,

800
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: He's it's too late, we've lost him. I don't know.

801
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 11: I don't know.

802
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: It's a good point.

803
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 5: That's a possibility.

804
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

805
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 5: It's cold, he hasn't done anything all day. It's just

806
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 5: silay specialty.

807
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 6: Three super bowls ago. Yeah, he was the hero three

808
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 6: super bowls. You know, at that point, like not that

809
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 6: it's connected, but still it's you know, this guy won

810
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 6: on a Super Bowl with a play. We need him please,

811
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: you know.

812
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: It was the the trickle down effect too, is just

813
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: they didn't have a They didn't have anybody to play

814
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: the slot, so like Patrick Chung was playing this a

815
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 4: slot corner role on Nelson freaking Aguilar, who they couldn't

816
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: cover because he's played, you know, he's they have a

817
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: safety covering a wide receiver because Eric Rowe had to

818
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: play on the outside because Malcolm Butler wasn't playing. So

819
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 4: it was like everybody blames Johnson Bademosi, that poor guy.

820
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: But really it was it was bigger than that, Like,

821
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: it was a whole trickle down effect in the secondary.

822
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: Jordan Richard, Jordan Richard.

823
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 5: Everybody except for Steph. Yeah, like you know, I think

824
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: it was Jeffrey gave him problems early and then they

825
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: put Steph on him. That kind of eliminated Jeffrey and

826
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: then they couldn't stop anybody else.

827
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, they tried to. You know, let put what's put

828
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: step on the number two.

829
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: And doesn't imagine what you know, Brady wins that game

830
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: all the all the yards, record number of yards for

831
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: an offense quarterback.

832
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 5: I still can make it. You can make an argument.

833
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 5: I don't think it's flawed, but you can make an

834
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 5: argument if they win that game, it's a.

835
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Three beats yeah, and well, yeah.

836
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: It's flawed because you don't know what happens the next year.

837
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: Everything changes.

838
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: I still think that he might have retired after that game.

839
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one thing that could have happened. Yeah, like

840
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: you remember that that was the year that he had

841
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: the whole Facebook series, right, the documentary series.

842
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: And I think they had that last episode in the

843
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: can you know, or at least written and they had

844
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: to rewrite it.

845
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: He would have come if he retired after that, I

846
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 6: bet he would have come back. He would have like

847
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 6: it would have been a whole thing, and he would

848
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 6: have gotten into eighteen and he would have been like no.

849
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying like just because like I think

850
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: a lot of people just say, well, they won in sixteen,

851
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: they won in eighteen. They could have won in seventeen.

852
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: That would have been a three peat. I think Fred's right.

853
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: You don't know what would have happened had they won

854
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: that game instead of lost it, right, And that's a

855
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 5: big part of it. Tom could have retired.

856
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, would we still be talking about Malcolm Butler if

857
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 6: they had won that game, you know.

858
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: We'd be talking about He'll be a mystery.

859
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: But they got that what they had a fourth down stop, right,

860
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 6: Like they had a chance to kind of seal that game.

861
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 6: If I think if they had a fourth down stop.

862
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: There was one fourth down stop and I think Bata

863
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 6: Mosi gave up a catch.

864
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: Actually getting mashed.

865
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: It was actually it was actually death on zach Ertz

866
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 5: caught like fourth and two.

867
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: That one too.

868
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Brady could.

869
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: Just be just a correct The game wouldn't have been

870
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 5: over maybe right right, but they did have a chance

871
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 5: to get off They did have a chance to get

872
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: off the field on that last drive.

873
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 6: Yep, Nick Foles, everybody he played, I mean he played.

874
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 6: I mean, what is it about? Like just dopey white

875
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: guys like him and Eli Manning, like the Patriots.

876
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: Like that's what it is.

877
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Let's see get to the emails at podcasts at Patriots

878
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: dot com. Aspin isn't reading. He says, I hope you're

879
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: doing well. Just need to say that every time Paul

880
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: sings it's gonna be may When you talk about Drake

881
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: may it makes me so happy. That was my exact

882
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: reaction when we drafted him. Anyway, looking at the coaching staff,

883
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm wondering what your overall impressions are, of course, but

884
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: also why you think Matthew Slater will not be returning.

885
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Was he only involved last year because of his relationship

886
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: that he and Mayo had and maybe he and Vrabel

887
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: do not have that same relationship. Regardless, it's a little

888
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: sad to lose him, as he had good relationship with

889
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: so much of the team. Another non coaching question, Jacoby

890
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: Brissett will be a free agent this year. And I

891
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: haven't heard you mentioned him much so far. What do

892
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: you speculate he'll do stay with us for one more year,

893
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: join another struggling team, retire, Thank you, you're welcome.

894
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 6: I don't think he'll stay.

895
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 5: I think he'll join a struggling team. Yeah.

896
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: I can't imagine he'll stay us to see what options

897
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 4: are out there.

898
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 8: I'm not signing back up.

899
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: And I don't know the Slater part of that. I

900
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: don't have any information on.

901
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: Kind of assistance to that coach, right.

902
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: And he doesn't. I mean, he wouldn't have that relationship

903
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: he played. I think you might have overlapped with one eight. Yeah,

904
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: so he wouldn't necessarily have that, you know, certainly not

905
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: as much experience with Rabel as he did with Mayo.

906
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: Troy Brown too. I mean a couple of guys that

907
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 6: have been.

908
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: Haven't heard his name. Jeff and Melbourne. Big news coming

909
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: out of the NFL having to do with Australia, he says.

910
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: So it's happening the NFL is coming to Melbourne and

911
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: there's a slim chance that the New England Patriots could

912
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: be the opponents for the Rams.

913
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 6: Please, I don't think you don't want to go to Australia.

914
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 5: Norah, I love that trip Chargers.

915
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: It's going to be two West Coast teams.

916
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, twenty six Oh.

917
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: I would go to Australia.

918
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: I do want to say there is a lot.

919
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 8: Of Patriots in Australia.

920
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 6: There's a small chance if the Patriots were to finish

921
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 6: the same slot the Rams this year, so EC West.

922
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: And we played that, we played that one one random

923
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: game yep.

924
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 6: Is an NFC West team in.

925
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: NFC West that falls in the same position, yep, So

926
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: if we finished same as a chance there.

927
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: Is if the Patriots and Rams finish in the same

928
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: position in the Division of twenty twenty five, ninth away

929
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: game for the Patriots or corresponding NFC West opponent. I'm

930
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: obviously getting ahead of myself, but given the hypothetical possibility,

931
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: could we also have a PU down under Oh jeez.

932
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 5: I guess that probably wouldn't happen, Like it'd be more

933
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 5: like London this year. I would think road game not

934
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: in our market, blah blah blah blah.

935
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 6: Especially you feel like the Patriots will have a Brazil

936
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: game soon.

937
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: I think, well, it's going to get to the point

938
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: that every team is going to have one international game

939
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: every year, every year, every year.

940
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 5: That's Fred's it's theory, sixteen international games.

941
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: Why do they do this to me?

942
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: I know.

943
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: Flight I have no desire to fly eighteen hours to

944
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: australia'll but the only way you.

945
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: Could do it for is whoever's playing place there is Well,

946
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: you can't do both, but you need a lot of time.

947
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: It's like from the East Coast, I do think it's

948
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: an eighteen hour flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Australia, it's crazy.

949
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: I just I mean, you definitely have to have to buy, definitely.

950
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: Community to buy.

951
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 8: You need to be out there all week at least.

952
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 6: And that's I mean with the team, send the whole party,

953
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 6: you know, the whole Germany party, you know, everybody were

954
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying that's probably more rams thing than like like.

955
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: Last year, like London, it was just a just a

956
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: road game.

957
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 6: That's why I say Brazil, like Brazil was probably you know,

958
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: we'll probably do it where it's a home market and

959
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 6: market for US now in international market that but I

960
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 6: don't know, if it was an away game, you're probably

961
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 6: just gonna send like last year, right, that is what

962
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 6: I would think.

963
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: It's actually a twenty one hour, twenty hours playing.

964
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 6: For that long without you got to get one of those.

965
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 5: You got to get one of those, like inflatable doughnuts.

966
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want to change.

967
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 8: That's a first class upgrade.

968
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: I got that. I got that for London once.

969
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: Bill in San Diego. Two quick questions, Why does it

970
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: appear that no one is concerned about all these former

971
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: head coaches who took jobs. They are clearly overqualified for

972
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: jumping ship after one season for better positions. So, in

973
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: other words, how long will these this staff stay to

974
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: gain us?

975
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 6: I think I trust that Rabel has full control of

976
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: the team, and I don't think he's so I don't

977
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 6: worry about him.

978
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 5: I think this is one of those This is kind

979
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 5: of like an s I d stat to me that

980
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: they have four head coaches, like Thomas Brown was ninterim

981
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: coach for like five games. He wasn't even an offensive

982
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: coordinator until someone lost their job, Like he never even

983
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: called plays until Frank Wright got fired, relinquish play calling

984
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 5: and then got fired like Doug Maroon. To me, at

985
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: this point it is probably he's probably not going to

986
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: be a head coach somewhere else Josh Ben McAdoo. I

987
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 5: don't think he's going to be a head coach somewhere. Josh,

988
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 5: I think is comfortable here in New England, and I

989
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: think he's had two chances. Now, you want to say

990
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: that you're worried about too many cooks in the kitchen,

991
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 5: maybe you know, with the amount of head coaches and

992
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 5: maybe you know, I don't know. It's just Doug Moron

993
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 5: and Thomas Brown think they maybe know how to run

994
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 5: the offense better than Josh McDaniels and this butting heads that.

995
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 5: I think that's always a concern on a coaching staff.

996
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: But I don't worry about these guys are going to

997
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 5: be head coaches and they're gonna leave in a year.

998
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't worry about it that way.

999
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: I would worry more about I don't count Thomas Brown either. Yeah,

1000
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: I would worry more about those types of guys though.

1001
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: Thomas Brown, Ashton Grant, Scott Booker, like, those guys have

1002
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: all been sort of on the rise, if you will,

1003
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: in terms of on that co ordinator track, uh and

1004
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: Thomas Brown like I could easily see Thomas Brown jumping

1005
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 4: ship next year for an offensive coordinator job because that

1006
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: that's the title pass game coordinator and tight ends coach

1007
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: is like the new title to be on that that pipeline.

1008
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 5: So I don't worry about it any more than I

1009
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: normally would with my position coaches.

1010
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: No, And I think the and I think they've built

1011
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: in expectation that that might happen, Like a guy like

1012
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 4: Riley Larkin for example, is probably the next Ashton Grant

1013
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: for them. And you know, I think they have tried

1014
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: to build in with some of those assistants with expectation

1015
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: that some of these guys might lead.

1016
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 5: So and Chuckie Keaton on paper are Josh McDaniels and

1017
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 5: Brian Dable in two thousand.

1018
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way to do it.

1019
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: And that's I think that's Evan's point is YEA, hopefully

1020
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: you have them and you you train them, and then

1021
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 5: when you start to have some attrition, you have somebody

1022
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 5: who can step into a positional coach.

1023
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: At your bench strength. Everyone thought Josh mcdanzis was a

1024
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: safe higher. Why does no one think there is no

1025
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: chance that if a head coaching job at Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia,

1026
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: et cetera, opened up, he wouldn't jump ship to take

1027
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: a job there after one season.

1028
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels, Yeah, college. I don't think he'd be offered it.

1029
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 5: Mike Rabel. I'd worry a little bit about something like

1030
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: that if Ohio State. I have no idea before anybody

1031
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: get Day literally.

1032
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 4: Just signed an extension to No, no.

1033
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: No, I understand that, And he could get fired next

1034
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: year easily.

1035
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: Well, he won a national championships.

1036
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: Right, and he could get fired next year if he

1037
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 5: loses to Michigan again. So I have no idea that

1038
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: Mike would be more interested in Ohio State than you know,

1039
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 5: prefer Ohio State over the Patriots. But I could see

1040
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 5: that argument. If that were the case, I'd much more

1041
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 5: worried about Mike Rabel coaches for two years and then

1042
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: goes and replaces Ryan Day at Ohio State, then I

1043
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: would Josh McDaniels is getting a college job. Do you

1044
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: guys think that Josh McDaniels is going to be like

1045
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: a candidate for Oregon?

1046
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: No?

1047
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: No, no, All right, my food's here. Oh good, So

1048
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: we're going to take a quick break. We'll get the

1049
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl picks and props later in the show, but

1050
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
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Speaker 11: So of course it's gonna snow.

1075
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 9: Of course, I think the forecast said spotty little bit, maybe.

1076
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 11: Not eight inches of snow all day long? Right, and

1077
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 11: so we get there.

1078
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 9: I don't think it's snow and yet it's overcast like

1079
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 9: it is most every day, you know, in the fall

1080
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 9: and the winter time. But it starts to snow when

1081
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 9: we go out there in like pregame warm up, like

1082
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 9: checking out the field and checking out everything, and what

1083
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 9: I remember is like the biggest snowflakes you've ever seen.

1084
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 9: I mean, gigantic, super cool cinematography wise, you know, if

1085
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 9: you're taking a camera, you're taking pictures.

1086
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 11: It's awesome.

1087
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 9: But to play in it sucks. You know, starts snowing

1088
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 9: hard and harder and harder. Now you can't even really

1089
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 9: see across the field to the other sideline. I'm like,

1090
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 9: this is gonna be absolutely miserable. But I'm thinking this

1091
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 9: team from California, Oakland, they can't handle this. We're gonna

1092
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 9: whoop their butts in this stuff. And they come out

1093
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 9: and play really solid game most of the game. They're

1094
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 9: they're sticking it to us, right, They're playing really well.

1095
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 9: So and as a game progresses on, it just gets

1096
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 9: more and more and more, and you know, it was

1097
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 9: it was interesting going out there watching the whole tuck

1098
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 9: rule stuff and all that. You know, when when Woodson

1099
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 9: goes around the corner, and you know, hits Tom's arm strip,

1100
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 9: sack or arm coming forward whatever. I'm sitting there thinking, ah, Jesus,

1101
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 9: cleaning out our locker tomorrow, right. I'm like, cause it

1102
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 9: looked like a fumble to me, right. And then all

1103
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 9: of a sudden the referees all right, we're under review,

1104
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 9: and I'm like, okay, well.

1105
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 11: Thank goodness. The rule at that time was what it is.

1106
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 11: I get it. And they change the rule after that,

1107
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 11: I get it.

1108
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 9: But the way they they judged it that way was

1109
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 9: the right call. And I'm thinking to myself as I'm

1110
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 9: watching that, I'm thinking, man, we're cleaning out of the locker.

1111
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 9: And then all of a sudden, the realism comes on

1112
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 9: to me, is like, you're gonna have to kick the

1113
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 9: hardest kick in your entire life, probably to give us

1114
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 9: a chance after that. So Kenny Walter is my whole

1115
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 9: old comes up to me and he says, hey, Adam,

1116
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 9: all the snow, all this stuff, he said, I'm not

1117
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 9: going to even try to spin it, he said, I'm

1118
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 9: just gonna put it down and wherever the laces are,

1119
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 9: the laces are. And I'm like, you're building it to

1120
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 9: a confidence for me right now, Bud, thanks a lot

1121
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 9: for this, but so literally we went out there, it's

1122
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 9: forty five yards. Try to get a quick sweep off

1123
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 9: of the ground. And I'm thinking to myself, listen, you

1124
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 9: got to think like three things. Slow steps to it,

1125
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 9: and I've got like as long as cleats in my

1126
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 9: plant foot as I can to get a little bit

1127
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 9: of traction and stuff like that. But I'm thinking they're

1128
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 9: not going to be able to rush fast, so my

1129
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 9: timing can be a little bit slower because they're not

1130
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 9: going to be as fast either, So don't worry about

1131
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 9: that necessarily. But you're thinking, like you're trying to run

1132
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 9: on ice, right, you can't take big long strides. You're

1133
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 9: going to slide and fall on your button. So I'm

1134
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 9: thinking shorter steps, try to just try to get your

1135
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 9: foot in place. Try to get the ball above the

1136
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 9: line of scrimmage. I didn't want to smack my center

1137
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 9: in the butt. You know that didn't work out very good.

1138
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 9: So I'm like, get it above the line of scrimmage.

1139
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 9: They're not going to be able to get a good push,

1140
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 9: so it's not you know, not as imperative to get

1141
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 9: it as high. If you can think of all this

1142
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 9: stuff as you're going out there. But I'm just thinking,

1143
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 9: you have to get it online and give yourself a chance, right, So.

1144
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 11: Get to the ball, kick it. You know.

1145
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 9: I look up, I'm like, okay, I didn't fall down,

1146
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 9: got it above the line of scrimmage. It looks like

1147
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 9: it's going fairly straight, but it still got to go

1148
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 9: forty five yards and in a blizzard's not an easy kick.

1149
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 11: And honest to God, as it's leaving, I'm like, got

1150
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 11: a chance. You're right.

1151
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, maybe, but but when it got to

1152
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 9: the uprights, it's snowing so hard. I wasn't sure. I

1153
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 9: couldn't really tell until the referees went forward and raise

1154
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 9: their hand.

1155
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 11: I'm like, oh my god, I made this kick.

1156
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Like I know.

1157
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 9: The reporters said, you know, after the game, like, oh,

1158
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 9: you know, what's the percentage?

1159
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 11: I'm like, I don't know, you know. I'm like I

1160
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 11: look back at that and go, that's two percent.

1161
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 12: You know.

1162
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 9: I like, honest to God, I don't know how many

1163
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 9: times you can make that. But made it when I

1164
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 9: needed to, you know, kind of had had a plan,

1165
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 9: kind of executed the plan. You know, I didn't want

1166
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 9: it to come off like a two iron super low.

1167
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 9: But that's the best I could do at the time,

1168
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 9: and it was.

1169
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 11: It was good enough.

1170
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 5: And then you get you know that it unfolds into

1171
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 5: overtime and I know, Matt, you know, we were talking

1172
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 5: about this a little bit almost anti climatic because there

1173
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: was so much shorter, but there's still all that snow

1174
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: on the field. Oh no, more than it was before.

1175
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 5: Same mindset.

1176
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 9: The only good thing, if you could say a good thing,

1177
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 9: is yes, it was twenty three, twenty four years whatever, shorter, shorter,

1178
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 9: but we call time out. Our guys are trying to

1179
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 9: clear off as much snow as possible, and then Gruden

1180
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 9: maybe the only time that you should maybe not try

1181
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 9: to ice the kicker, if you will, because it gave

1182
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 9: us another thirty seconds. We cleared a little bit more snow,

1183
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 9: wasn't completely clear, but it was way way more clear,

1184
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 9: way easier. That one was one of those like yeah,

1185
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 9: you're gonna make this, Like like I had all the

1186
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 9: confidence the world that I was gonna make that and

1187
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 9: kick it a look up.

1188
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 11: I'm like, thank god, So yeah, it was, it was.

1189
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 11: It was. It was a wild day.

1190
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 9: I'm happy that it happened that way, never would want

1191
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 9: to do it again just because, but no, it was

1192
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 9: pretty awesome. I've played in a few crazy games in

1193
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 9: Buffalo and stuff, but that one is, that forty five

1194
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 9: yarder to tie the game is by far my favorite

1195
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 9: kick I've ever made, even Super Bowl kicks and all that,

1196
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 9: just because the difficulty level was as hard as you

1197
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 9: could get.

1198
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 11: You miss it, the season's over.

1199
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 9: I mean like you couldn't stack any more negative or

1200
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 9: potential stressful situations on top of that kick, and to

1201
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 9: make that thing was pretty awesome.

1202
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 14: It's really interesting to hear the way you say that,

1203
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 14: because there's so many people that it would be, oh,

1204
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 14: you know, that's my job and a deflect. When you

1205
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 14: hear somebody like Bill Belichick, who's said it many times

1206
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 14: and other great historians of the game call it the

1207
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 14: single greatest kick in the history of the National Football League,

1208
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 14: how does that make you feel?

1209
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 11: Well, it's a huge impliment. It's awesome to think that. Whatever.

1210
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 9: But as I look at other kicks and other things,

1211
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 9: I haven't watched every kick from everything. I know the

1212
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 9: Pat summer On one and some of those ones awesome too,

1213
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 9: but by far, the most difficult kick I've ever had

1214
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 9: to think and or or attempt and yeah, you'd have to,

1215
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 9: you'd have to. I'd be hard pressed to find another

1216
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 9: one that stacks up to that. But you know, thank goodness,

1217
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 9: my team gave me an opportunity to try.

1218
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 5: It, and a couple of weeks later, yeah, that's that's nothing.

1219
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 5: Indoors tie games.

1220
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 9: That was pretty awesome too, because I just you know,

1221
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 9: that game kind of back and forth and then the

1222
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 9: Rams catch up and oh my gosh, you know, and

1223
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 9: I remember I remember the commentator John Madden saying, ah,

1224
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 9: you know, she'd probably just take a knee, and thank goodness.

1225
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 11: We didn't. We had enough time.

1226
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 9: And you know, our philosophy, or at least Charlie Weis's philosophy, is,

1227
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 9: you know, let's see if we get a couple first downs,

1228
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 9: if we can, if we can get in range.

1229
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 11: In that year, I think we had I think I

1230
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 11: had five game winners, including that.

1231
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 9: One in the one and so we were blowing teams out,

1232
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 9: but we were winning games. And that's the cool thing

1233
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 9: about our team that particular year is we lost to

1234
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 9: the Rams earlier in the year, but it was a

1235
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 9: good game, came right down to the end, and we

1236
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 9: built a lot of confidence in that game, and knowing

1237
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 9: that every close game we were just.

1238
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 11: Building more confidence and more confidence.

1239
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 9: And I literally remember them kicking off to us and

1240
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 9: I go, we got a minute and a half left.

1241
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 9: I've seen Tom do it all year long, Like, hell yeah,

1242
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 9: we're gonna do it again, right, j R. Edmund Troy

1243
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 9: Brown and bing dinking, you know, Jermaine Wiggins has one,

1244
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 9: just a couple of places, bang bang bang bang all

1245
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 9: the way down the field, and I'm just thinking, hell yeah,

1246
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 9: you know. And so the feeling for that kick is

1247
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 9: never It's a game you dream about it your entire life.

1248
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 11: You know, as a little kid, You're like, what's as

1249
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 11: a kicker?

1250
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 9: That's the dream, right, kicking a game winner in a

1251
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I mean, that's exactly what you think about.

1252
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 9: So I'm over in the net and I'm watching, you know,

1253
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 9: and I kind of have a routine like, hey, when

1254
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 9: we get to a certain yard line, I start to

1255
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 9: warm up a little bit, and everything's sped up a

1256
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 9: little bit, so you start a little earlier. And it's

1257
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 9: funny because in my entire career, when you get ready

1258
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 9: for game winners, everybody kind of treats you like you've

1259
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 9: got some rare contagiousness.

1260
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 11: You gotta letp proceiver. Yeah, nobody wants to talk to you,

1261
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 11: touch you say anything to you.

1262
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: Two guys in my.

1263
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 9: Entire career in twenty four years, two guys Willy and lawyer.

1264
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 9: Lawyer and my lawyer, the two guys that would say

1265
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 9: something to me. And Willy comes up to me as

1266
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 9: I'm walking in and he gives me a wuck right

1267
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 9: on the book. Come on, man, we hit this second.

1268
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 9: I'm like, I can't feels cheek right now, but thank

1269
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 9: you for that.

1270
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 11: But okay, good, you know.

1271
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: But and and.

1272
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 11: Johnny Rotten, our equipment guy at the time, Johnny hillbrand

1273
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 11: And was like, you hit it, I'll get it.

1274
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 9: And he takes off down the sideline. So the funny

1275
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 9: things that you remember because everything's happening fast but slow

1276
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 9: everything slow motion kind of sort of and you know,

1277
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 9: we finally you know, dinking and dunkin and dinking and

1278
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 9: duncan and Tom spikes the ball and it's all right,

1279
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 9: get out there and kick this thing. I'm thinking to myself,

1280
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 9: I'm like, forty eight yarder. It's not a chip shot

1281
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 9: by any means. It's a long kick. But I'm like,

1282
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 9: this is like like I everything's calm and quiet, lots

1283
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 9: of stuff is going on, but it just kind of

1284
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 9: your world just kind of shrinks to a little bit here.

1285
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 11: The only thing that I.

1286
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 9: Do remember is Rod Rutledge was my left wing and

1287
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 9: dre blies on the other side.

1288
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 11: And Rod is talking mad trash to him. Yeah, yeah,

1289
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 11: talking all just just talk. I can see it too.

1290
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 9: It's like just yesterday, right, And and I'm the kind

1291
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 9: of guy that I like to get everybody set because

1292
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 9: I don't want to take my steps back and wait

1293
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 9: back there for a long time. And so Rod's over here,

1294
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 9: just John, just talking trash and I and Kenny's like

1295
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 9: waiting for me to get set, and I go, Kenny, make.

1296
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 11: Him stop, and he goes.

1297
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 15: Rod gets set, you know, and Rod's like, oh, you know,

1298
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 15: he gets down right, And so the biggest kick of

1299
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 15: your life, and this stupid crap is going on in

1300
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 15: front of you, right, like the stuff that's happening in

1301
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 15: front of you.

1302
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 11: And so I take my steps back and Kenny gives

1303
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 11: a set.

1304
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 9: Call comes boom boom boom, and it's like that golf

1305
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 9: shot that you don't even feel hit your club, right

1306
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 9: like it's just just nutted right, perfect, right, and and

1307
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Speaker 9: I feel it leave my foot and without even looking up,

1308
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, that felt really good.

1309
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 11: And I look up it's dead center and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1310
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 11: you know.

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Speaker 9: And at that point I turn and I'm jumping around

1312
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 9: and whatever, and Kenny's grabbing me in the confetti starts

1313
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 9: and all that stuff, and and it was just just yeah,

1314
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Speaker 9: I don't know, you know, it's just amazing at that point.

1315
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Speaker 11: And now, great moments in.

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Speaker 6: History they had. She had one where she was talking

1317
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Speaker 6: smack about your blood cells.

1318
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Speaker 2: Whoa, oh now it's on.

1319
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: Now it's wild.

1320
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Speaker 5: Now it's well, it's definitely no. But all I saw,

1321
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 5: I mean I saw like Megan had like one hundred

1322
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: scream screaming, but they.

1323
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: Had just won.

1324
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 5: Like what is she supposed to put in the library?

1325
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 5: Face face.

1326
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 6: Like just sh Freud.

1327
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 5: I just wanted to I'm sorry, what was that working?

1328
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: Shading?

1329
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Not the life, as I said, shoden.

1330
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 5: Freud because he went over to he said in two

1331
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 5: different ways, neither one of them was correct.

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Speaker 2: Shot him fucking all right.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered eight five five

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: Pass five hundred is the TPX Hotline podcast at Patriots

1336
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: dot com as the email address. Franklin and Baltimore writes

1337
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: in while not exactly one to one, Barkley's impact in

1338
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs is Terrell Davis esque, and there's no amount

1339
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: of scouting or practice the Chiefs can do to prepare

1340
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: for his mix of speed and elusiveness. Eagles thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: Chefs twenty eight, So put one down for the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: I don't see it.

1343
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 5: So I think that that leads to an interesting stat

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 5: that I saw today. The Eagles have rushed for more

1345
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 5: yards this season than they've thrown four. If they win

1346
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, it'll be the first time in thirty

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 5: plus years that that has been the case. It's seventy two,

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Speaker 5: seventy three, seventy four, you know something like that. Miami, Pittsburgh,

1349
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh last teams to rush for more yards than they

1350
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: threw fourth to win the Super Bowl. So, yeah, it

1351
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 5: could happen. It could be a one off, but I

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 5: think you've sort of seen how you need to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's going to be a game about

1355
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 6: possessions and long possessions, and you got to finish with

1356
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 6: touchdowns Like that's how I kind of see it stacking up.

1357
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Speaker 6: And as much as they want to run Barkley or

1358
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Speaker 6: the Chiefs want to throw short passes like, it's just

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Speaker 6: gonna come down to who scores touchdowns, I think. I

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01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 6: mean that's I don't think it's going to be a

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Speaker 6: high scoring game. I think it's going to be a long,

1362
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 6: drawn out eight nine, ten minute possession eight nine. You know,

1363
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 6: those that kind of game, back and forth with long

1364
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 6: sustain drives that if you get stopped on fourth down

1365
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 6: or you missed the field goal, those things will add

1366
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 6: up and that's gonna be the difference.

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Speaker 2: Rusty and Arland says. The Hall of Fame will be

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Speaker 2: announced soon and I wanted to get your opinion on it.

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: Obviously we have one player who we can talk about.

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Speaker 2: I think sug Steve Smith, Regy Wayne are probably ahead

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Speaker 2: of Vinitary or Vinittieri. Which is it?

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Speaker 7: I do?

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 6: I do Tierry that I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: I think it's tyranny, But it used to be put

1375
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 5: in the media Guide as Terry.

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Speaker 2: Terry Terry that's right. Uh do you think he gets

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Speaker 2: in on the first ballot? Uh?

1378
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, all got a shot.

1379
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: Also I want to ask about when Vinitari left, since

1380
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: I was still youngish when it happened. What was the reaction?

1381
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: Was it mainly just money? It was all about money?

1382
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: Is it weird that he had all these iconic moments

1383
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: with the Patriots then played basically a second full career

1384
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: with another team that was terrible.

1385
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 11: I hated it.

1386
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated it too.

1387
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: It was one of my first like him and Johnny

1388
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: Damon right there you go the same time, and I

1389
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: remember being dead stated about both of them and not understanding.

1390
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 4: But I was so Bill could do no wrong at

1391
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 4: that point that I just I explained it away.

1392
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: I was like, I was so mad, But I mean

1393
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 5: it was this is Carlton Fisk for me as a kid,

1394
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 5: and the same kind of thing you think of him

1395
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 5: as a Red Sox. Played longer with the White Sox,

1396
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 5: same with that, played longer with the Colts, but he

1397
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: didn't do.

1398
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: As much with him.

1399
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Speaker 5: Well, what's going on?

1400
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: All right?

1401
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 6: I want to get into my thought food for thought?

1402
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 6: So is Eli meaning getting in? I mean what if

1403
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 6: he got in?

1404
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Would it first ballot? I would be disgusted?

1405
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 6: I mean, is it?

1406
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 4: But is it too?

1407
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Speaker 16: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Two?

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 5: Super Bowl runs.

1410
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Speaker 6: Is that is that what gets him in?

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Speaker 10: There?

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Speaker 6: Is there any other kind of.

1413
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Speaker 8: It's who he be.

1414
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Speaker 4: In New York, the voters have Pat and Manning.

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Speaker 6: So my my food for thought was just you know,

1416
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 6: what would a could a defensive player ever do?

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Speaker 12: That?

1418
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 6: Could a defensive player ever get in onto you know,

1419
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 6: super Bowl titles where they had an exceptional run and

1420
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 6: this one particular player, I mean, I'm just going to

1421
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 6: throw it out there, in two super Bowl runs six games.

1422
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 6: This player had played six games, six interceptions, an interception,

1423
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 6: td UH, five passes, defense, two forced fumbles, two sacks

1424
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 6: and UH and had almost fifty tackles in those two

1425
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: Super Bowl runs for a defensive player. That's those pretty

1426
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 6: good stats. I just thought, you know, Rodney Harrison had

1427
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Speaker 6: two really good super Bowl runs, even hugely productive. And

1428
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 6: so if you want to say, you know, Eli Manning

1429
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 6: could get in off a two runs, I know everything

1430
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Speaker 6: else you're saying. I just thought it was interesting food

1431
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 6: that you're talking about two playoff runs like Rodney in

1432
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 6: those two playoff runs, I mean, that's crazy, like six interceptions.

1433
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Speaker 2: And I would even think the case that forget about

1434
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: the runs, he had a better career at his position.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's sure, like maybe overall back,

1436
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 6: but I just thought an interesting kind of com here's

1437
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 6: my favorite Patriots.

1438
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: So I'm not exactly the most unbiased there, but.

1439
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 6: I just was I would would jump out to me

1440
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 6: as I thought of that, and then I'm like, what

1441
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 6: I mean. Eli Manning stats in those two runs were great.

1442
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 6: I mean he had like one one interception and either

1443
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 6: of the two runs, maybe two. But but Rodney, my god,

1444
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, and especially as I've gone back through these games,

1445
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 6: like he's just constantly popping up with big picks and

1446
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 6: obviously sealed Super Bowl thirty nine, which was twenty years

1447
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 6: ago today. Hey, so that was my little food for

1448
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 6: thought of just even get on, even get on.

1449
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's an anti Patriots, it is.

1450
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: It is the voters don't like the Patriots.

1451
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 5: Is there ever going to be a time that we

1452
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 5: stopped with that?

1453
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 12: No?

1454
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: No, when they treat us like every other dynasty that's

1455
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: ever lived, and they can stop with that, right when

1456
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 4: they have seventeen Pittsburgh Steelers in.

1457
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Speaker 2: The stop trying to diminish our accomplishments, and maybe we'll

1458
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: back off.

1459
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 4: One hundred forty forty nine ers, but the Patriots defend

1460
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: the wall. We have to We have to scrap and

1461
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: claw to get The greatest dynasty in the history is

1462
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: Sports Hall of Fame.

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: We don't get no respect. You know what. They hate us,

1464
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: they hate it.

1465
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 6: They don't care about us anymore. I hope so come on,

1466
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 6: irrelevant last year, But what are we going to do?

1467
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm kidding, not really.

1468
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: Ryan in situate says, Paul is a national hero, national treasure,

1469
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: national treasure. That my new favorite thing in the show is,

1470
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: to nobody's surprise, one of Paul's quirks. Whenever an email

1471
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: or a caller chimes in and Paul doesn't agree, always

1472
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: turns to Evan, where they have a quiet conversation amongst

1473
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: the two of them where they take subtle shots at

1474
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: the opinion. To add on to that, I also love

1475
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: when Fred says something and Paul responds with something that

1476
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: completely contradicts what Fred just said. Fred simply replies with, yeah,

1477
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: never changed. Love the show. She's thirty one, Eagles twenty.

1478
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: Four so high scorers.

1479
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: Yep, let's see Stephen and Iron in right, sin just

1480
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: in reference to the twenty eighteen Super Bowl against the Eagles.

1481
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: Something I've never really heard spoken, but I've always felt

1482
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: myself Malcolm Butler being out wasn't as big of a

1483
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: loss to the team as High Tower being out was.

1484
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: In the three Super Bowls he played, he played and

1485
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: he made plays to get a stop turnover in each one.

1486
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: If if High Tower was healthy, I believe we win

1487
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: that game with or without Butler. I also think Butler

1488
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game was not great, so maybe

1489
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: it added to what unfolded that led to the benching.

1490
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: Well, High Tower was out for most of the season,

1491
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 4: so it's a little bit different. Like Hi Tower played

1492
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 4: five games in twenty seventeen, so it's I mean, they weren't.

1493
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: They were never gonna have High Tower, is my point.

1494
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: Like you know, he was on injured reserve, he was out.

1495
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 4: They had Malcolm Butler healthy and available and didn't play him.

1496
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 6: It's a good point though he was a huge I

1497
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 6: mean I always referenced that twenty fifteen game in Denver

1498
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 6: when when he went out and then all of a sudden,

1499
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 6: they just started running all I mean, I think even

1500
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 6: the game winning touchdown in overtime was like them just

1501
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 6: running wide zone like rope right through the right through

1502
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 6: the Patriots defense.

1503
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 5: But yeah, not the Hopper's muff game Poppers muff.

1504
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 6: That's the one. That's the one.

1505
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: Jeff in Canada. I know this is probably not something

1506
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: the team would announce publicly, but do you have any

1507
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: inside baseball knowledge on any additions to the analytics department?

1508
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: Rabel said the a word in his introductory introductory press conference,

1509
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: and we hear anything about that.

1510
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: There is one guy that name is excaving me. I'll

1511
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 4: look it up that came over from the Red Sox. Actually,

1512
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: but this happened in December, so it happened actually under

1513
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 4: Gerrod technically and more of like probably an Elliot Gerad move.

1514
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 4: But there was a guy that came over from the

1515
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: Red Sox and he is now working in the Patriots

1516
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 4: front office in the analytics department. So we now have

1517
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 4: two analytics staffers. We went from one to two. We

1518
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 4: doubled in size.

1519
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: Teddy Bruski on with one of Paul's shows at the

1520
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That hair, it's unbelievable, It's unbelievable for the

1521
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

1522
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 6: This is tell us more kill your hand through it.

1523
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 6: I mean wonderful.

1524
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: This is still as are the most talented team the

1525
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs have played all year by a lot, and they're

1526
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: not ready for them for this reason, thirty one twenty

1527
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: three Eagles.

1528
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know.

1529
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs haven't had enough good competition, is what

1530
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: he's saying.

1531
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 5: Which I'm not arguing with his his premise that the

1532
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 5: Eagles are the most talented team. I think the Eagles

1533
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 5: are the most talented team in football, and they haven't

1534
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: played them, so this will be the most talented team

1535
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 5: they play. But like they're not ready for them. They

1536
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 5: lose by a touchdown, you know what I mean. It's

1537
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 5: like they're not ready for them. They lose forty one.

1538
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 5: That makes sense, They're not ready for this step up

1539
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 5: in competition, not thirty one twenty three.

1540
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: Like that, You could go either way, Isaac writes in

1541
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: do you think Drake May's experience in the Pro Bowl

1542
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: and rubbing elbows with other stars helps the Patriots in

1543
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: free agency?

1544
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 12: No?

1545
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 6: Not really, but I do.

1546
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 13: I do.

1547
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 6: I think more about just him being around these guys

1548
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 6: and you know, just being more comfortable being in a

1549
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 6: face of an NFL franchise, and I just think it's

1550
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 6: good for his confidence. You know, I don't really care

1551
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 6: about playing in the Pro Bowl, getting named to the

1552
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl, but just being there and being a part

1553
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 6: of it, being around these guys, getting to talk to

1554
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 6: some of the other quarterbacks, maybe picked their mind a

1555
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 6: little bit about their process and how they do it.

1556
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 6: Although those are things to me that I think are

1557
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 6: most valuable to Drake from.

1558
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 5: Is it acceptable to just sort of say, like, I

1559
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 5: don't really think it has much impact either way? Yes, like,

1560
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 5: I don't think it. Certainly don't think. I think everything

1561
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 5: Mike said makes a lot of sense, and I don't

1562
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 5: necessarily think you need to go to the Pro Bowl

1563
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 5: to do any of that. So I can you just

1564
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 5: sort of say that's great for him if he enjoyed it.

1565
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 5: I hope he embraced it and enjoyed it. But if

1566
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 5: he didn't do it, I don't I wouldn't think any less.

1567
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 4: That was the one takeaway I had, And granted he

1568
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: could have just been putting on a good face for

1569
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 4: the cameras, but it did genuinely seem like he enjoyed

1570
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: his time there. I hope he did, and I think

1571
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: that that could be potentially something, but I think it's

1572
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 4: a little overblown that al he's talking to Jamar Chase,

1573
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: like cool, tell me when the Bengals give up work out.

1574
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 5: Together to you know, and I'm sure that he'll do

1575
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 5: that in the off season and be with you know.

1576
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 5: Like I don't know. I think sometimes we try to

1577
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 5: attach value to everything.

1578
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 8: And with social media, they all know each other already.

1579
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 8: They're talking if they want to be talking, Like.

1580
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 5: Who's the who's the quarterbacks that were with the in

1581
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 5: the National CHAMPI was that Riley Leonard and Will Howard

1582
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 5: that were like roommates at the Manning camp or something

1583
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 5: like that? Is that the one or my confusion that

1584
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 5: with two different.

1585
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 4: Guys that could be right?

1586
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 5: But Drake is also they know each other, is my point.

1587
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: Drake is also at the Super Bowl. He's been walking around.

1588
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, like if there's a reason he's down there,

1589
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: I just Christian Kyle. I don't know if he's down

1590
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: there like usually guys that are down there as sponsored.

1591
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 6: Ye, I think he was doing a thing, okay.

1592
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 4: So, but I don't think it hurts.

1593
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts for him to be exposed

1594
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: to as many other players as possible, because you never

1595
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,560
Speaker 2: know a guy's like, yeah, I met him, he's a

1596
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: pretty good guy. I wouldn't mind playing with him. Yeah, sure,

1597
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: can't hurt, can't hurt. Let's see who's this this is Mike.

1598
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: He says, you can tell a lot by the way

1599
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: a person sits and placement of their legs and feet.

1600
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: Fred and Paul sit with two feet firm on the ground.

1601
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: Fred being in charge, Paul thinking he is plus plus

1602
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: it's good plus. It's an old man thing. Evan sits

1603
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: with one leg folded over the other straight form, basically

1604
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: claiming his superiority and someday thinking I'll be the boss.

1605
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: Mike sits with one leg folding over the other at

1606
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: the knee, flopping the leg. He's contemplating if Paul will

1607
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: ever let him finish his second and questioning his manhood.

1608
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: Don't overthink it, gentlemen, It'll drive you crazed.

1609
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 4: I kind of agree with you.

1610
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 6: Well, those new chairs got it. Really, your legs are

1611
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 6: on display. I mean, I don't have to tell Alex

1612
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 6: about that. I think our first show you.

1613
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 8: Were Yeah, it came like a spur or shorts or

1614
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 8: a dress or something that is not going to work.

1615
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 8: We raise that camera a little bit like you mention

1616
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 8: the chairs are so deep that I look like a

1617
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 8: toddler sitting in it because my feet are just like

1618
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 8: the inglish like bring.

1619
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 2: Your legs up and get like really cozy?

1620
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 4: Are you not owning?

1621
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 5: You're not owning the chair?

1622
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 8: Well, when I do get cozy in it, I'm like

1623
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 8: sitting cross legged in it because it's so big.

1624
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 5: It's very uncomfortable.

1625
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 4: I try to own the chair and then I'm like

1626
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: my posture shut.

1627
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 8: Jerry look too comfortable?

1628
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 6: You see Edelman? Edelman always he's got kind of the

1629
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 6: thing he does where he's leg He's got a nice

1630
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 6: kind kind of like yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah,

1631
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 6: he's always got like the short short he wants like

1632
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 6: hamstrings and the eyes out he wants to.

1633
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to the tp x houtline. Nathan's in LA.

1634
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: What's up, Nathan Nelson?

1635
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 5: That's Nelson.

1636
01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: Oh Nelson, Nelson Nelson with sorry, I just don't swear.

1637
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 10: People are gonna win it thirty one or twenty four,

1638
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 10: you know, like us, we won the Eagles the first

1639
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 10: time when the Super Bowl and then they came out

1640
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 10: to beat us. Had it did he beat him the

1641
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 10: first time in the Super Bowl? And I think the

1642
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 10: Eagles are gonna come back hungry and Barker's gonna take

1643
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 10: it all the way.

1644
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so Eagles put another one down for Eagles.

1645
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be doing all to one Eagle so

1646
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 2: far a.

1647
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 4: Little time, I do like five Eagles. Five.

1648
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 5: I didn't remember anything. It's it's a good.

1649
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. One person.

1650
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 5: One person picked the cheeky.

1651
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey?

1652
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 17: So say, lady, how y'all are doing today?

1653
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: All right?

1654
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 5: Lady?

1655
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 10: All right?

1656
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: Uh excuse me? Love it?

1657
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay?

1658
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 17: About to receives in the draft, Uh.

1659
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 4: Huh, Okay, it's gonna be game.

1660
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 13: Okay.

1661
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 17: Sure, one receiver ninety six steps, don't care, one hundred

1662
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 17: one yeah, thirteen point one average, one hundred twenty five

1663
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 17: one thofty eight yards, fifteen touchdown.

1664
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: Okay.

1665
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 17: The other receiver at eighty four reception thirty one hundred

1666
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 17: and thirty targets, fifteen point seven yards per average, thirteen

1667
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 17: nineteen yards. Which one would you take?

1668
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 6: See?

1669
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm trying to fall plays on the outside.

1670
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 5: Which one place on the outside?

1671
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 17: They're both outside the outside.

1672
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the second one. I couldn't keep tracking.

1673
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 17: Okay, good. The circle is t MAC, the one you

1674
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 17: said you wouldn't take.

1675
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to get picked the wrong Who is

1676
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: the first one?

1677
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 5: Who was the first one?

1678
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 17: Big e fav of counter fab counter? Yeah, i would

1679
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 17: take t MAC at four, But then again, I'd rather

1680
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,520
Speaker 17: have the left tack or protectmate.

1681
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that's gross, Wow, Eldred taking the tackle over the.

1682
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 5: Tackle over the receiver.

1683
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 17: Wow, we ain't got no line.

1684
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: What happened?

1685
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 4: You hit your head or something you saw down alder?

1686
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: That's big of you man, that's growth.

1687
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 17: Okay, yeah, no, no, But but like I said, I'd

1688
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 17: rather have t MAC if what you call. But I

1689
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 17: know what we need more, and.

1690
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 10: That's some protection.

1691
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 17: And if they if they go ahead and get your DK,

1692
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 17: because they're not gonna get here, diggers ain't leave it.

1693
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 17: They get DK DK, I'll be had. But I'd rather

1694
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 17: have t MAC on the other side with DK. And

1695
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 17: you got a force with what you called it, with

1696
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 17: with what you called in the middle, so you know

1697
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 17: you got that and the guy does. He might not

1698
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 17: have top speed, but he is fast and he does

1699
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 17: get over top of the route, middle of the route,

1700
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 17: and he's protest catches and once you get the hand

1701
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 17: on the ball, he's gone gone all right, So I

1702
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 17: rather have him too, But I really have a tack.

1703
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: Who do you have in the Super Bowl?

1704
01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 4: Who do you like?

1705
01:17:59,560 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 5: Sign down?

1706
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: Eagles? Iggles? Okay, wow, hold him down all right, Aldred, thanks,

1707
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: have a good one.

1708
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 5: Thanks, Biggie, Thank you. Love to stack him at the stem.

1709
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah he had.

1710
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 5: He had a lot of your buzzwords. You had to

1711
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 5: like that call.

1712
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 4: I loved that call from Eldrid and that was some

1713
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 4: real growth picking the tackle over the receiver. I know

1714
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 4: that's difficult for people stunning, but I will say this

1715
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: about Eldrid. Him liking Teed McMillan's the most predictable thing ever.

1716
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: I told you, receiver, I actually you know he read

1717
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 4: all those numbers. I often don't even look at the numbers. Uh.

1718
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 4: In college, I don't really think that that trans Like

1719
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: Nikhil Harry had three monster seasons in college at production.

1720
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 4: But I hear what he said. He's he's a good player.

1721
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 4: I just think it's a little rich at four.

1722
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: That's all. Diana in New Hampshire. I read an article

1723
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: today that Adam van Terry wanted to stay as a Patriot,

1724
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 2: but they wouldn't give him multiple years and Colts wanted

1725
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: him more and gave him what he wanted. Yet and

1726
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: all to do with money, And it all to do

1727
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: with money. I'm rooting for the Eagles to win. Absolutely

1728
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: don't want Chiefs to repeat as I'm sick of people

1729
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: saying Mahomes is as good or better than Brady. No

1730
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: way is he even close yet? Prediction Eagles twenty seven,

1731
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: Chiefs twenty four. So close game.

1732
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 6: I just think everybody's picking with their hearts and they

1733
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 6: don't want my homes sont make.

1734
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 5: An argument for the Eagles.

1735
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: They're the better team.

1736
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 10: No.

1737
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm saying some of the talent, sure, but

1738
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of I.

1739
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 5: Don't think they're the better team because I think it's

1740
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: just too big of a difference in the quarterbacks. But

1741
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 5: I think you can make an argument at the top

1742
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 5: to bottom they have better talent.

1743
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, we're saying the same Mike and Charlotte

1744
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: Eagles thirty five, Chiefs twenty one. A lot of points

1745
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 2: over forty eight and a half.

1746
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, better go get those points.

1747
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: Oh I missed that.

1748
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: Eagles.

1749
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 4: I'm with do somethink A lot of people picking with

1750
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 4: their hearts, not with their heads on this.

1751
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: Martin out of Kansas says my pick is Chiefs thirty six,

1752
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 2: Eagles thirty in an overtime win, Chiefs three, pete and food.

1753
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 2: I'll be grilling some marinated skirts st to make tacos, beans,

1754
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: rice with homemade sALS.

1755
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 4: Nice.

1756
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 6: That sounds good. I think I'm gonna do a roast.

1757
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to do a roast.

1758
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: You gonna do a roast roast? It seems a little

1759
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: aggressive for Super Bowl, but it would be nice if

1760
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: holiday roast. It seems like too much work for you.

1761
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: Just get the meat, roast roast.

1762
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of odd super Bowl fair.

1763
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 5: I don't think it's all.

1764
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 2: That baking oysters rocke fell.

1765
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 6: Id I have ever since I went to my sisters

1766
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 6: for Christmas. They made a roast that I just was like,

1767
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 6: oh my god, I had the horse radish you'll never met.

1768
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 6: You're probably right, but I'm gonna try.

1769
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 4: All right, that's a good pick.

1770
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 6: Don't let them, don't let them talk mashed potato.

1771
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 5: It's going to be the snow like the Super Bowl

1772
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 5: to me is sort of like.

1773
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 8: Buffalo chicken dip rings.

1774
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: Easy stuff, easy stuff you can pick at because it's

1775
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: a long day something.

1776
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 8: You're right, the picking us gradually, like.

1777
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 2: You've got a pre game, you got off game, you

1778
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: got halftime, you got second half.

1779
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 6: I'm not having a party though, Like it's just my family.

1780
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 6: So I'm like, let's have dinner and then we'll have

1781
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 6: some picking snacks too, but the focus is going to

1782
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 6: be my roast, with my food.

1783
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 4: You have one big meal because like, I don't want

1784
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 4: to be distracted by having.

1785
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 8: To like what if you're in a food can you

1786
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 8: fall asleep?

1787
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: I can see Mikey makes this beautiful roast and everybody

1788
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 2: eats all the other stuff and nobody eats the roasts.

1789
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 6: And my kids were no party. I mean, we're gonna

1790
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 6: be in the snow. I'm not going to run into

1791
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 6: a problem, like you know, Paul's got to figure out

1792
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 6: how to get grandparents to and from through a blizzard,

1793
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 6: and you know it's.

1794
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: I'm worried about the snow.

1795
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I am.

1796
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 5: I'm a little worried about the snow, but the food

1797
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about.

1798
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 4: I think I might have to cancel my plans like mac.

1799
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 5: And cheese, wings, dip, absolutely nachos. Yeah, I'm pizza, apps,

1800
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 5: it's Super Bowl is a day of apps.

1801
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, day of farting all day and all that.

1802
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 8: But I like your family.

1803
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 4: If you have a roasted potatoes cheese.

1804
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 6: You gonna have cheese and then some more cheese and

1805
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 6: probably some cheese in there, some beans.

1806
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: That's going on?

1807
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 5: What is going on in the bullpen?

1808
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 6: Worried about.

1809
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: Those things?

1810
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 8: Plug into the wall and let's have the glade pluggings.

1811
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: Holy macro.

1812
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 6: What's the cheese sticks?

1813
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 5: Another the other solid option. I won't have cheese. I

1814
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 5: think we'll have potato skins. I think we got like

1815
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 5: a way it's wings sticks and in skins.

1816
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 6: Like the wings, I like them.

1817
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that your potato skins, guy, that right

1818
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 4: up here.

1819
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 5: Not my favorite really, I mean, I mean I like them.

1820
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 5: But if I have like the buffalo stuff, not I

1821
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 5: would go to those first. Okay, wings, wings are my face.

1822
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 5: Buffalo fread's burn out with me, and we ever gone

1823
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 5: out with and I didn't get buffalo wings.

1824
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 2: You gotta get wings.

1825
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 5: You got to get the adam and not the tenders

1826
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 5: with no bone.

1827
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 4: That's called a boneless chicken wing.

1828
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 5: It's a tender.

1829
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: No, it's a tender.

1830
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 4: It's a.

1831
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: Boneless chicken tender, No boneless chicken wing.

1832
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 8: They just called a boneless wing to make you feel better.

1833
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: A boneless wings.

1834
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 4: Generous there is. That's what it is.

1835
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 8: It's not what part of the chicken does it come from?

1836
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1837
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: Not the wings exactly exactly, good, good, Alex. Why do

1838
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: you have to be stubborn.

1839
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 4: Because when you go to a wings place, they're called

1840
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 4: boneless wings.

1841
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Very few do that anymore. They've been corrected, correct real

1842
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: establishment tender.

1843
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest, the biggest way separating tenders

1844
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 4: are not sauce tenders are dry and you dip in sauce.

1845
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 5: Buffalo tenders.

1846
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 4: Boneless wings are right on the menu, are sauce. They're

1847
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 4: tossed in the sauce.

1848
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: Sauce, but not milky sauce.

1849
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 4: Not the tenders. Those are dipping, you dip those.

1850
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: Okay.

1851
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 8: So the windy spicy nuggets, Oh yes, it's not. That's

1852
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 8: not a boneless wing in your mind because it's a nugget.

1853
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 8: It has sauce on it.

1854
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 4: But it's but it's hot nuggets shaped.

1855
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 8: See where going It's just the shape though boneless.

1856
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: Your boneless wings aren't shaped like wings.

1857
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: E shape shapes a factor.

1858
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not shaped like wings. You're boneless things things.

1859
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 6: They broke ground on the Chick fil A?

1860
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: People, Is that what that is?

1861
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: You should are all in?

1862
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 6: Should no? I know that that was on the it

1863
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 6: was on the stadium. We just got a Chick fil

1864
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 6: A and walpole about three miles that way.

1865
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 5: Excited about it and got fifteen times.

1866
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 6: I got kids and they like it.

1867
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 5: I just like, back to what Mike.

1868
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 6: Least twice, no question about it.

1869
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 4: You like, what do you get a Chick fil A?

1870
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 6: I'll get a chicken. I'll do I grilled chicken sandwich

1871
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 6: a couple of times. They're pretty good.

1872
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 8: They don't do anything.

1873
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 6: I always get some of those nuggets though. I always

1874
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 6: got to get a little the little wing dang things

1875
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 6: they got there though, too.

1876
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Adam and Louisiana. That's good, he says fred. I have

1877
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: a gripe with the Patriots Pro shop. Why can't I

1878
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: buy a Tom Brady jersey in the old two thousand style.

1879
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 2: I went through my collection of jerseys and realized I

1880
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: don't fit the clothes I wore fifteen years ago. Shocker,

1881
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: I know, but I was looking to buy a new one.

1882
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: And all they have are the new blueberries. I want

1883
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: the nostalgia. I don't want to buy a jersey in

1884
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: the new style for players that hardly or never wore them. Also,

1885
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to buy them because I don't think

1886
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: they'll be around much longer. Any hints on that freat I.

1887
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 6: Think that's a great email. I think those those unions

1888
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 6: got to come back some capacity, especially in the pro shop.

1889
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, leave money on the table.

1890
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 8: When did they switch from Reebok to Nike twenty twelve

1891
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 8: or was it that? So that's probably why you can't

1892
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 8: find the early two thousands ones.

1893
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do the custom ones.

1894
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 6: And I think it's just the blueberries.

1895
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 4: Oh thought I thought you could pick though, maybe it's

1896
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: just the throwbacks that they So.

1897
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 12: What is what?

1898
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 4: What do you?

1899
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 2: What is the blueberries?

1900
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 5: That's the current?

1901
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 8: The current, that's the current uniform, the color rush that

1902
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 8: turned in.

1903
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,520
Speaker 5: They're mockingly described as blueberries.

1904
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: And what were the ones before that?

1905
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 6: They called them the dynasty uniforms.

1906
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: The dynasty unit how about that?

1907
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 6: They want six super Bowls on them?

1908
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 12: Right?

1909
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 2: Okay, but what how do you refer to that color blue?

1910
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: Wasn't it the same blue.

1911
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 6: I think I had. That's a good question for I

1912
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 6: think maybe the pants. When they switched to the plants and.

1913
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 8: Change the modern style with the stripes, it looked like

1914
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 8: the red throwbacks, but meat blue for color Rush.

1915
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care for him, okay, one writes

1916
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: in this whole debate of TB twelve verse, Mahomes seems

1917
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: silly until Mahomes does the following. I'm not willing to

1918
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 2: consider the whole discussion. One Mahomes leaves and wins a

1919
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: super Bowl with another team out from under red. Two

1920
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Mahomes wins a Super Bowl without Kelsey Brady did it

1921
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: without Gronka, the most amazing comeback ever. Also, Fred asked

1922
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: the question, who doesn't like Andy Reid? That's easy. Go

1923
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: watch the corniest commercial ever made, the old Bundaruski, and

1924
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: you'll change your mind.

1925
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 4: I make.

1926
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 16: Us.

1927
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 2: What would your ideas be for a new uniform with

1928
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: a new era of quarterback and head coach?

1929
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 5: Fred?

1930
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: Do you think do you know of anything in the work?

1931
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Since we're eligible for a UNI change this season, there

1932
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: might be some information.

1933
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 6: I like Paul's. I think your favorites are They did

1934
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 6: the white shirt with the red pants. I think I

1935
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 6: like that that's something that's been kind of lost a

1936
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 6: little bit, that they haven't really worn.

1937
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a lot of that color combination

1938
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 5: in the league. I feel like there's a lot of

1939
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 5: very similar colors.

1940
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 6: Buffalo, Yes, I mean Buffalo. I mean that those colors

1941
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 6: are kind of buffalo. I mean if it wasn't that

1942
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 6: you're wearing right.

1943
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 5: And I've always had I like this hoodie because it's

1944
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 5: very comfortable, but I always I am kind of curious

1945
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 5: about the color of it.

1946
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, it seems audio has been lost.

1947
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 5: Right back. We're back up.

1948
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: We're back up. We're audioboard.

1949
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 11: Glitchen shut down. You guys were off for two minutes.

1950
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 2: Two minutes. That's an eternity.

1951
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 5: Let me recap what we have said.

1952
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 18: Oh my god, I f bombs around left, right, Buffalo

1953
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 18: and congo, God quickly.

1954
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 5: If the Chiefs win, it's only because of the crooked

1955
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 5: refs uh and the Eagles will win. Instinks and everybody

1956
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:34,719
Speaker 5: hates Andy.

1957
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 6: Reid thing scene.

1958
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 2: Chad says, the other blue was called nautical blue. Nautical blue.

1959
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 6: Okay, Dynasty, remember the hex code of it. You know,

1960
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 6: they get like the hex code that tells you exactly

1961
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 6: what blue was, and then you could right, and then

1962
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 6: you could you know, if you're a t shirt making person,

1963
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 6: we want the right blues.

1964
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 8: They don't know how to code. They don't know what

1965
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 8: we're talking about.

1966
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 4: Me I do. How's it my fault?

1967
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 2: You should be talking more ball back there, Eric, Eric

1968
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 2: seems to think he has the answer about tenders versus wings.

1969
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: A tender is a whole tenderloin uncut. A boneless wing

1970
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 2: is a tender that has been cut. A nugget is

1971
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: a ground mixture or a cut that has been pressed

1972
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 2: and shaped.

1973
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 6: I think he nailed it. I think he nailed it.

1974
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 5: Some boneless wings do exist boneless because it's not from

1975
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 5: the wing, like he said, boneless wings actual tenders.

1976
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 6: What Either way, they're delicious.

1977
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: I like them too. If it's chicken and it's fried,

1978
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: I want to try anything, right, Todd says, Seeing it's

1979
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 2: the off season for US Patriots fans and somewhat boring,

1980
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh thanks a lot. My son, Tyler, and I were

1981
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: wondering what Fred gets for lunch when he says his

1982
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 2: food is here before going to break Any local places

1983
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: that stand out in the Foxborough area. My lunch choice

1984
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: has to do with what I think I'm going to

1985
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: be eating for dinner A lot of times, so if

1986
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have a lot of food for dinner,

1987
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: I try to scale back.

1988
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 9: Uh.

1989
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 6: You know what you got on the tap tonight? You

1990
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 6: gotta what a sandwich today?

1991
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 5: Evidently you're not going to have much for dinner. A

1992
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 5: small one that looked by the way, fantastic and it

1993
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 5: smelled good and it was really good.

1994
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's play a piece of time pizza.

1995
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 6: I've heard of that.

1996
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we go there. Sometimes we haven't.

1997
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 5: Heard about it. We gave it a shot. We'll see

1998
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 5: if we continue.

1999
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2000
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're mad at Paulo.

2001
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 4: I think some establishments the street they really are mad

2002
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 4: at paul Every day I ordered, he says, that's it, Matthew,

2003
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 4: come on.

2004
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 11: Us.

2005
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 5: I might have to step up my game, but I

2006
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 5: need more money. I just can't small pep can't afford it.

2007
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 2: The delivery driver calls me, Kevin Still Robin san Diego.

2008
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: My wife listened to the last few shows and really

2009
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: enjoyed the doughnut debate and the Taylor Swift discussion. I

2010
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: told her about Mike's story of getting off the bus

2011
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 2: in Bridgeport, Connecticut to play hockey, and she agreed Mike

2012
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: was right to be apprehensive. She's from Bridgeport, and honestly,

2013
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm scared of her on a daily basis. That brings

2014
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 2: me to my off season question, what's the sketchiest stadium

2015
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: you've ever been to football or otherwise, whether because of

2016
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: the neighborhood or something else for me, while you're thinking,

2017
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 2: For me, it was watching the Rams play at the

2018
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: LA Memorial Coliseum. I parked far away, and I'm about

2019
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent sure I walked through skid road to

2020
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 2: get to the former New Haven Coliseum is a close second.

2021
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 2: For hl Hot, Yeah, I've.

2022
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 6: Been to the coliseum. That's pretty accurate.

2023
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 4: I was about to say the costume.

2024
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 6: You're parking in crappy territory right, walk right through New

2025
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 6: havenl NO in l l a USC stadium that was

2026
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 6: pretty bad. I mean that the old Chargers one was

2027
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 6: pretty crummy.

2028
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 5: Like share in terms of bad stadiums, the Oakland one,

2029
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 5: San Diego one, Jack Murphy, I know it wasn't bad.

2030
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Veterans Stadium was the vet was a dump. You got

2031
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: a hamstring pull just walking on the field's.

2032
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 4: Terrible in Washington, right, that's dump is really at the

2033
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 4: bottom of the league. And they're building or we're just

2034
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 4: the build just got just got approved. Yeah, but nothing

2035
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 4: beats the Coliseum.

2036
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 5: And I've never been the.

2037
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Only parking lot that I've walked through that I said

2038
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: things could get if he here was Oakland. Yeah, like

2039
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: there was like some stuff.

2040
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 5: Going on now I don't don't remember any of that.

2041
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: The bills could be crazy, but it's in a good way.

2042
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 2: Like they'll throw a beer can at the bus and

2043
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 2: stuff like.

2044
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 8: That, but in a good way.

2045
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 2: It's all the fun.

2046
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,919
Speaker 6: I mean, it's all for I meant the old Patriots

2047
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 6: Stadium that was a little skin when I was a kid.

2048
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 5: I mean, that's probably.

2049
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: You're right, and I was pretty right.

2050
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 5: I mean had a lot of new words in my

2051
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 5: first game nineteen seventy six.

2052
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 8: That shout out to that emailer's wife for not calling

2053
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 8: me a mean girl.

2054
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you doesn't care for killers.

2055
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 5: Was was not I'm not happy.

2056
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 6: What did you think of her grammy outfit?

2057
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,520
Speaker 8: Alex, It wasn't that bad. She must have heard our discussion.

2058
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 8: But I don't think it's a mean girl of me.

2059
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 8: To one, I'm a Taylor Swift fan, paid my good

2060
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 8: money to go to those concerts. And two, like, she's

2061
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 8: a billion dollar entity. That's not like pitting two women

2062
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 8: against each other. That's all I'll say.

2063
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 6: Dropped the mic said a lot more than that off

2064
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 6: the ear? Did she have like a chain with a

2065
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 6: t on her thigh too?

2066
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 8: Like call me a mean girl? If like if me

2067
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 8: and Tamara had beef. That's one thing we're on like

2068
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 8: similar level. Taylor Swift is a billion dollar entity that's

2069
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,520
Speaker 8: criticizing a corporation.

2070
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Right, A big word. Right?

2071
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 4: The question though, Deuce was the tea for Taylor or

2072
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 4: for Travis? That was the controversy.

2073
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 8: It's probably because she has a song. It's a corny lyric.

2074
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 6: To be honest.

2075
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 8: What if he's written mine on my upper thigh so

2076
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 8: it was falling on her upper thigh.

2077
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 4: That's you know, Relax.

2078
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Jake and Melbourne, Australia. Right, sint just looking for some

2079
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: clarification and why a quarter or a half inch of

2080
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: arm leg seems to be a pretty big defining factor

2081
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 2: on why Campbell could be as high as four to

2082
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots or some mocks having him around ten also

2083
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 2: would Nick s Gorton be worth the assets to get

2084
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: into the fifteen to twenties range and picking.

2085
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 6: Him, that's welcome to the craziness of the combine. Baby,

2086
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 6: it's a good question.

2087
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 4: And the threshold used to be thirty four inches and

2088
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 4: then Rashaun Slater came around. Now it's thirty three inches.

2089
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 4: So really it's just a matter of the old cliche like,

2090
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 4: it's really not any more complicated than that. Obviously, you know,

2091
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 4: you want to be able to keep guys at arm's

2092
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 4: length and at your fingertips, and the longer that you are,

2093
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 4: the easier that is to do, just from a technique standpoint.

2094
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 4: But there will be a day where a guy with

2095
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 4: thirty two inch arms is an elite tackle because he's

2096
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 4: just that good. And maybe that's Will Campbell. Don't know,

2097
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 4: maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But there have been

2098
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 4: guys that have been on the lower end of the spectrum.

2099
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 4: You know, we had one here, Matt Light was on

2100
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 4: the lower end of the spectrum and was a great

2101
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 4: player for a long time. Right now, it's for Shan Slater.

2102
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 4: Joe Thomas wasn't particularly long in the arm, so it's

2103
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 4: not like you can't do it. But that's the old

2104
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 4: adage is that you know, the longer that you are,

2105
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 4: the easier it is to keep guys at bay and

2106
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 4: pass protection especially yeap.

2107
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 5: So can I just I just say one thing to

2108
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 5: add to this, And I think Evan just perfectly gave

2109
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 5: you a million examples of guys that didn't fit the

2110
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 5: bolts that would. But I know that it sounds silly

2111
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 5: on the surface, like, well, his arms are thirty two

2112
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 5: out of thirty one and then whatever, But it's not

2113
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 5: all that different as to like why a wide receiver

2114
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 5: might be a candidate if he runs a four to

2115
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 5: three forty as opposed to a full four to forty. Now,

2116
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 5: like one is fast and one is not, you know,

2117
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 5: and that can be the difffference between being elite and

2118
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 5: just being okay. And it's the same thing for a tackle.

2119
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 5: And again, there were plenty of wide receivers who ended

2120
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 5: up being great that didn't run explosive speeds. Larry Fitzgerald

2121
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 5: was never considered one of the fastest. Play Jerry recele

2122
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 5: Jerry Rice, you know, was not considered one of the

2123
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 5: fast So you can succeed anyway. But it's the same thing.

2124
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 5: It sounds silly, like the length of his arm, but

2125
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 5: it matters. It does matter. It's a reason why it's

2126
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 5: always been considered like that.

2127
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 4: It's interesting, I think, because it's almost like you have

2128
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 4: to have the kahones to play a guy with shorter

2129
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 4: arms at tackle, because so many teams just moved them

2130
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 4: automatically inside, Like Peter Skoronsky was a All Conference offensive

2131
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 4: tackle left tackle at Northwestern for multiple years and automatically

2132
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 4: just got moved inside because his arms are below thirty

2133
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 4: three inches yeah, by the Titans. And so all it

2134
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 4: could take is that one team has the gumption to say, nope,

2135
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 4: we think this thirty two inch guy can play tackle,

2136
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden the threshold changes again,

2137
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 4: you know. So it all depends on your preference.

2138
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 2: Does Marcus Allen ever get old?

2139
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 5: So it's funny. I'm watching on TV my show is

2140
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 5: Marcus Allen is on, and people just keep coming up

2141
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 5: to him in the middle of the show, interrupted the

2142
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 5: mayor and you know, former teammates and whatnot, and they're

2143
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 5: just like, in the middle of the show. I can

2144
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 5: only gague what it sounds like.

2145
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 6: I was going to say a thing to watch two

2146
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 6: with the arm link a little bit. Is Joe Toney

2147
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 6: playing left tackle in this game? And how does he

2148
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 6: do against the Josh Swtz of the world. And I

2149
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 6: think you might see some of that some of why

2150
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 6: length is important at that position.

2151
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 2: Tony says, this is going to be a tough game.

2152
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: Hate the Eagles for beating us, hate the Chiefs for

2153
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 2: being good. Plus I've hated Kelsey ever since the playoff

2154
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 2: game in New England where he mocked Brady doing his

2155
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 2: let go, let's go pregame. Saquan is the only person

2156
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 2: I can cheer for, So I guess I'm picking the

2157
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Eagles ten six sugfest because it's what the NFL deserves

2158
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 2: for giving us a rematch. Do any of you have

2159
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: any personal grievances with players or coaches in this game?

2160
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 6: Personal grievances, but players are coaches.

2161
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know.

2162
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 6: I don't really and I know exactly what he was

2163
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 6: talking about with with Kelsey, But I think those guys

2164
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 6: are just so good. I'm like beyond the fandom of

2165
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 6: like they were taunting us, like you know, like I

2166
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 6: just at a certain point you just have to accept

2167
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 6: how good these guys are. And how consistent they've been.

2168
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 6: But I really, I mean, I'm really I really like

2169
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 6: Philly's defense. I really like watching those guys. I mean,

2170
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 6: Jalen Carter, there aren't a lot of defensive linemen in

2171
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 6: the league that are actually fun to watch, and he's won.

2172
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 6: Chris Jones is one like to see that.

2173
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I definitely have those kinds of grudges, though

2174
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 5: I don't know necessarily on these two teams. I don't

2175
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 5: like Travis Kelcey. I don't like the personality I have

2176
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 5: a problem with. He's kind of a bore to.

2177
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of a tool a little bit, but

2178
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 8: also like I don't not enough that I would hate him.

2179
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it has nothing at all to do with

2180
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 5: Taylor Sweat before. I think he's just that typical bro

2181
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 5: that I just kind of don't like.

2182
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 8: But he's a guy that if he was on your team,

2183
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 8: you'd probably like love him.

2184
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 5: Well, he's a great player, so yeah, yeah, but the personality,

2185
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 5: like Baker Mayfield, I've always disliked Baker Mayfield. I think

2186
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 5: he has great personality. Like the commercials and stuff. Because

2187
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 5: this is how it starts, This is how this all started,

2188
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 5: You guys, don't know all You guys don't know all

2189
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 5: the history. That's why we had to let Baker.

2190
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Bake h Dana, Virginia and Michigan. The NFL finally got

2191
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: something right. It was announced yesterday the NFL will be

2192
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 2: playing a regular game in Australia. The city they have

2193
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: chosen for this game is my hometown of Melbourne. The

2194
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: NFL picked the right city to host the game. It

2195
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: is the most sports mad city in Australia and it's

2196
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: the best place for sports in a country where sports

2197
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: are prominent in our identity and culture. Also, Melbourne is

2198
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 2: like Australia's Boston for a number of reasons. Bad traffic,

2199
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:01,879
Speaker 2: like another.

2200
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 5: Funny Australian accents.

2201
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 6: They're gonna have all like the stereotypes of the game,

2202
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 6: like the guy playing Digi Redo, like with the national

2203
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 6: anthems or something.

2204
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 8: He's right though. I went to college with a kid

2205
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 8: who studied abroad for a semester at U mass He

2206
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 8: came to you, mass only because it was in Massachusetts

2207
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 8: and close to the Patriots and he could go to

2208
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:21,799
Speaker 8: Patriots games.

2209
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 2: But like of all the places in the world to visit,

2210
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 2: like Australia is not even on my list.

2211
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 5: Really, it's just if it wasn't.

2212
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 8: So far, there's nothing Australia and New Zealand are in

2213
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 8: my other than being.

2214
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 2: In another hemisphere. Like there's nothing like historical about it.

2215
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 2: True animals have animals.

2216
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I don't know that that likely.

2217
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: So he got in Europe for Asia and like there's

2218
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 2: there's like a different culture and a different history and

2219
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 2: things to look at that And I don't know what's

2220
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 2: different about Australia to America.

2221
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 6: And you're gonna get some emails here in the second fil.

2222
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 2: It's like US even shaped the same, except it's upside down. Really,

2223
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: it's like us.

2224
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 6: It's just for me overwhelming thinking about the flight. That's

2225
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 6: me and that's the killer.

2226
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty four hours on a plane.

2227
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 6: I don't even like flying to California and it's like six.

2228
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 4: And that's all I'm thinking about. In the amount of

2229
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 4: time that you're gonna have to.

2230
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 6: Go, we get over ten we get over ten hours.

2231
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 6: I think I'm out.

2232
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 8: I would break it up. It would have to be

2233
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 8: like a month long trip.

2234
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 4: Where Hawaii first US can take a month long I.

2235
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 8: Certainly can't sol I was thinking about doing it.

2236
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 6: Hypothetical Look at this. Marcus Allen's now handing over to

2237
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 6: some random lady.

2238
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,600
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly where with huge coke poddle glasses.

2239
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 8: And her eye glasses are Oh my god, that's a

2240
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 8: thick prescription.

2241
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 2: Earlier, is that his handler?

2242
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 4: What is going that's probably his hands?

2243
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 8: Mad radio?

2244
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh, they're having technical issues.

2245
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 5: What is going on here?

2246
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: The Marcus Allen is it's bad radio. We're talking about

2247
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 2: something people can't see. All right, let's talk about the

2248
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Let's get into it.

2249
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 5: Oh should we?

2250
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2251
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: All right, so we've got the uh Eagles and Chiefs.

2252
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: What times the game start?

2253
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 4: Three?

2254
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 5: Six thirty.

2255
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 4: Twelve?

2256
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 6: About the pregamey on the West coast? That was great.

2257
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 5: It hasn't been that, my god, since we were kids.

2258
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 5: We were kids, forget about. They weren't evenna twinkle on

2259
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 5: anyone's eye.

2260
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 2: So what happened last Well, do we already go over?

2261
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 12: No?

2262
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 5: We didn't.

2263
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

2264
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 5: Evan was the only one that went to and oh

2265
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 5: with the at the championship weekend, the rest of us

2266
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 5: were all one and one. Good job, good job, Evan.

2267
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: Uh So.

2268
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 5: With the spread, Evan and Fred went one and one.

2269
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 5: The rest of us went on to poop emoji. So

2270
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 5: here are the updated stats. Overall winners. Mike and Paul

2271
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 5: are nine and three. Evan is seven and five, Fred

2272
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 5: is five and seven, Alex is six and two. Did

2273
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 5: not participate in Division round.

2274
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 8: When did I? How did I not participate? I texted you.

2275
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 5: I did not receive the answered me.

2276
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 8: And you also a couple of weeks ago, told me

2277
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 8: I had an incomplete. It was the week the first

2278
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 8: week I was gone. You said I had an incomplete.

2279
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 8: But I was on that show. It was a setup

2280
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 8: of four. I sat on the Ottoman and we did

2281
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 8: the College National Championship.

2282
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 5: The only one that I missed was the division round games.

2283
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 5: I didn't get anything on the air though.

2284
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,520
Speaker 8: Two weeks ago you said I had an incomplete.

2285
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 5: I was listening, Yeah, Paul, come on, because you didn't

2286
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 5: give us picks for the division round. Now, if you

2287
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 5: gave them to me and I did not see them,

2288
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 5: then my apologize. As Rob Bradford would say, on Wei,

2289
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 5: I remember I sent you.

2290
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 8: The picture of a volcano two and you said pretty cool.

2291
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 6: I didn't.

2292
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 10: I have all the.

2293
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 8: Games listened, and then it is a picture of the volcano.

2294
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 8: I said, look, it's a volcano eruption.

2295
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 5: So that is the polus thing. Ever, I will cool,

2296
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 5: I will I will add, I will add those if

2297
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 5: I can find them anyway, you cut up. No one

2298
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 5: likes you. Mike with the spread is leading at seven

2299
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 5: four and one, followed by Paul at five six and one,

2300
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 5: then Fred at four seven and one, and poopamoj Evan

2301
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 5: at three eight and one. That serves your right from

2302
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 5: making in front of my eyes.

2303
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 4: Now that's your four and.

2304
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 5: Four with ante.

2305
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 6: Pretty cool.

2306
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 5: It's all right, so we got we got. It was

2307
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 5: a cool volcano like I never I.

2308
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 6: Didn't see the rest, not wicked. Pretty cool.

2309
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 5: So Fred, you can now.

2310
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: Do what you do.

2311
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 5: Okay, So volcano, we know that's what I saw.

2312
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 6: I did not see this up here, however, please, so

2313
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 6: let's see.

2314
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 5: They didn't cover, they didn't cover, They pushed and.

2315
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 6: We're working out.

2316
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 5: Are you Are you not aware of who's playing in

2317
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 5: the game.

2318
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for you to I said, I'm all set.

2319
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 5: We're ready for you to introduce the game.

2320
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: All right, So the games at six thirty that's Eastern time.

2321
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 5: Thanks.

2322
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 2: It's on Fox to be, Fox Deportes and Telemundo to B.

2323
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 6: I'm watching on t B.

2324
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fifteen and two Chiefs against the fourteen

2325
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 2: and three Eagles, the Eagles of the home team, that

2326
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: is correct.

2327
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Eagles will be wearing green U and Casey

2328
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 5: back in white. K C by one and a half.

2329
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 4: That line has not moved, right, I have Casey by

2330
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 4: one on ESPN.

2331
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 5: But I had DraftKings this morning said one and a

2332
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 5: half ahead. We go by draft Draft, we go by

2333
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 5: Draft Kings always sponsor and.

2334
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 6: Paul, thank you. So I guess I'll kick it off.

2335
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 6: I kind of hinted out a little bit. I think

2336
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 6: it's game with a lot of long possessions back and forth.

2337
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 6: But I like a low scoring game. I just I

2338
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 6: don't all these people saying like in the thirties verse thirties,

2339
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't see that. I think this is

2340
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 6: a game in the mid twenties to low twenties. I'm

2341
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 6: gonna thak Kansas City. I'll say, kind of a weird game,

2342
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 6: like twenty seven to twenty one Kansas City.

2343
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna win anyway. So I'm going with my heart,

2344
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 8: go birds. FI he goes five, Philly twenty four, Kansas

2345
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 8: City twenty one. That's a good squad, close game.

2346
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 4: There is a lot of things I like about Philly

2347
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 4: in this matchup, pressure on the quarterback Saquon Barkley. But

2348
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 4: what I can't get out of my head is that

2349
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 4: eventually the game is going to be and Jalen hurts

2350
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 4: his hands against Steve Spagna in the Chiefs defense, and

2351
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs defense, just like they did to Josh Allen

2352
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 4: makes a play late and make sure that they get

2353
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 4: over the top. So I'm taking Kansas City twenty seven,

2354
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 4: twenty four and a thriller classic.

2355
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 5: I too, am gonna take Kansas City. I just think

2356
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles this is a bad cop out. If the

2357
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 5: Eagles can somehow throw the ball the way they did

2358
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship Game, I think the Eagles win.

2359
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that Hurts can do that again. So

2360
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 5: for that reason, I'm taking Kansas City. I think they

2361
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 5: have enough defensively to make sure that doesn't happen. And

2362
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll let Barkley, you know, have three

2363
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 5: seventy yard touchdown runs. I mean, if he continues to

2364
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 5: do that, he does, more power to him. I'm gonna

2365
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 5: take the Chiefs, and I'm gonna say thirty one, thirty one,

2366
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 5: twenty three.

2367
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:59,879
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean everyone's talking about the Chiefs defense

2368
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 2: in the Eagles front line, and they should and Spagnolo

2369
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: in the coaching matchup, which Andy Reid probably you know,

2370
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: has the edge. But the end of the day, because

2371
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 2: I think the defenses both are good, I think it

2372
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: is lower. I think it's gonna be under the forty

2373
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: eight and a half, And at the end of the day,

2374
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: one team has Mahomes and the other dozen and I

2375
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 2: like him having the ball with the chance to win

2376
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 2: the game. I think the Chiefs win the game twenty

2377
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 2: four to twenty three.

2378
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:33,879
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's not a cover.

2379
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty three. It's it's gonna be a

2380
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: great game. It's gonna be a great game. But the

2381
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's Patrick Mahomes. After all a

2382
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 2: sudden done, Taylor Swift and Kelsey and the coach and

2383
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,799
Speaker 2: all that stuff and everything else going on, Chris Jones

2384
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 2: and the front you know, the front line for the Eagles,

2385
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes.

2386
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 5: Red talked about briefly the over under that's set at

2387
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 5: forty eight and a half.

2388
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 6: Forty and a half twenty seven.

2389
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 5: So based on this year, think, yeah, you picked one,

2390
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 5: you picked, you picked.

2391
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,799
Speaker 6: Forty eight, that would be under right numbers.

2392
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 2: Do you want to go over?

2393
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 12: No?

2394
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I liked under Alex.

2395
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 5: You picked forty five, you would take the under.

2396
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 4: I'm taking the over. Kick goes over?

2397
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, over is a good bet also because you know

2398
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 2: when these games, typically the defenses get tired at the

2399
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 2: end and fourth quarter they start going up field.

2400
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 5: You were also forty seven.

2401
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, So what I's gonna say? Though, You're right, and

2402
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 6: I just these are two really good, talented defenses.

2403
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 2: Are they going to get tired? They know?

2404
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 6: Like does that happen to every defense? Or could this

2405
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 6: be a year where the defenses play well down to

2406
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 6: the end. I don't know. I just I think there.

2407
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 6: I just have a lot of respect for both defenses.

2408
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 6: Some game it's hard to say, like, oh, the Eagles

2409
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 6: are just going to roll over at the end of.

2410
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 5: The pick it pretty high scoring you pick forty eight points.

2411
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: It's also so you get into the chess match and

2412
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 4: usually with the great offensive coaches, they kind of figure

2413
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 4: it out by the fourth quarter of like what the

2414
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 4: defenses are doing to them, and they have some answer,

2415
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 4: especially guy like Andy Reid. You know, once he kind

2416
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 4: of the game declares, they'll have some things for found you.

2417
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 5: You know, I think the AFC Championship game, in the

2418
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 5: game that Kansas City lost, Yeah, you know, it took

2419
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 5: him a while to figured it out and then they couldn't.

2420
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 9: Ye.

2421
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:24,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so that's.

2422
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 4: The over under of a legal picks.

2423
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 5: But yeah, Barkley rushing total one eleven and a half eleven.

2424
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 6: And a half m. That's a good number. Ah shoot,

2425
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say over, but it's just it's just not enough.

2426
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Over. I'm gonna pick under. I think they're gonna go

2427
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 4: into this game Kansas City and say we have to

2428
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 4: get this game in the third and pass and have

2429
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 4: to get it and Jaalen hurts his hands and we'll

2430
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 4: load up to stop the run. So I'm gonna take

2431
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 4: the under.

2432
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the old over just because I feel

2433
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 5: like Kansas City will make sure that the passing game

2434
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 5: doesn't hurt them, and they'll say, go ahead, try to

2435
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 5: do with five yards at a time. I don't think

2436
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 5: you can, but I think you'll. I think you'll rack

2437
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 5: up some yardage. Barkley. So I'll take the over.

2438
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 2: I am going to take the under. I am going

2439
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: to take the under part of taking the under overall.

2440
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 5: So, okay, this is uh. I have a couple of

2441
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 5: regular ones, but this was a little quirky one. Xavier're

2442
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 5: Worthy rushing yards oh six and a half, six and

2443
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 5: a half. These are official from draft things. By the way,

2444
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 5: I didn't just make these numbers up. I didn't pull

2445
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 5: them morell and I just put up any number I wanted.

2446
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 2: I like it.

2447
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go over on that one.

2448
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 6: I think that's a good one. I think that could

2449
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 6: be part of the plan.

2450
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 5: Try to, you know, get outside, and basically you're asking

2451
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 5: you they're going to hand the ball off to Xavi

2452
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 5: you're worthy or not.

2453
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 6: I'm going to say yes, yeah, over.

2454
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over too. I think if there's one

2455
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 4: thing you want to do against a Fangio defense is

2456
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 4: try to use emotion and try to get outside if

2457
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 4: you can. And so I'm gonna go over.

2458
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. I think they'll they'll give the ball

2459
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 5: to Worthy a couple of times in this game. He's

2460
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 5: probably the most dynamic. He is the most dynamic player.

2461
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 5: Get the ball in his hands.

2462
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 2: I think they'll get the ball in his hands, but

2463
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 2: not as a rushing play. So I'm gonna say under.

2464
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:25,839
Speaker 5: Okay, My next one is Travis Kelcey receiving yards sixty

2465
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 5: one and a half.

2466
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 6: Well, I think this might be his last game, possibly,

2467
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 6: and I think he'll go out with a good performance.

2468
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna go over on the one under Taylor

2469
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 6: Swift hater.

2470
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 4: My god, Yeah, I'm gonna go over as well.

2471
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 5: Fellow women, I guess I'm gonna go over as well.

2472
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 4: I just feel like in this game of this magnitude,

2473
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 4: Mahomes is gonna look for his most reliable guy.

2474
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under because I think that they're

2475
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 5: good enough defense massively to make them do it a

2476
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 5: different way. Can't do what like Houston did and just

2477
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 5: say go ahead, keep doing it to Kelsey. You gotta

2478
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 5: make him do something different.

2479
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say over. I'm gonna say over. I think

2480
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: that the Eagles get aggressive up front, and I think

2481
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna slip out a few times and and get over.

2482
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: What is it, sixty one and a half?

2483
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 5: Sixty one and a half.

2484
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say over, not by a lot.

2485
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 5: Aj Brown, who was next up seventy and a half.

2486
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say under on that one. I got a

2487
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 6: lot of respect for Trent mcduffee. I think he's sticky

2488
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 6: and that's where i'd be putting him, so yeah, I

2489
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 6: think I think he'll do a good job.

2490
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 4: Also under, I'm gonna go under as well. But I

2491
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 4: do think Adrian Brown has a big catch. But it's

2492
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 4: like one for forty or something like that. So I'm

2493
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 4: gonna go under.

2494
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the under.

2495
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 2: Two.

2496
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 5: You think it'll be McDuffie on him, not Smith.

2497
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think so. I agree with Mike.

2498
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 4: I think McDuffie Brown.

2499
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 5: Just wondering about the size.

2500
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

2501
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have the under as well. I'm going to

2502
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 5: I don't think they can throw it like they did.

2503
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the under on that as well.

2504
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 5: Yep uh sorry, Patrick Mahomes Mayholmes, as Gronk calls him,

2505
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 5: Mayholmes two and fifty one and a half yards passing fashion, No,

2506
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 5: not rushing, Mike. You're waiting.

2507
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 6: You're waiting for that clarification.

2508
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 2: I could tell.

2509
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 6: Shoot, I'll go I'll go over on this one. It's

2510
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 6: just it's hard to bet against Mahomes, you know, being underproductive,

2511
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 6: and I just think I'll have a good game.

2512
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go over to.

2513
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a big believer in the secondary. I

2514
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 5: for the Eagles, I know that they've played, like Kunyan

2515
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 5: Mitchell played really really well. You know, Sleigh is still

2516
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 5: you know, a pros pro. But I'm going to take

2517
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 5: the over. I think Mahomes will will figure secondary out.

2518
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over. Two and sixty of those

2519
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:04,919
Speaker 2: yards might come in the last possession.

2520
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 6: That's I agree, Like, don't you just feel like that's

2521
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 6: where it's hit.

2522
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 5: I think pencil in another one of these shortly. But

2523
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 5: the last one, last prop bet I have is Jalen

2524
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 5: Hurts is passing total two twelve and a half.

2525
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 6: That's a good number. Ah, I'm gonna say under on

2526
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 6: that one. I think that's where the game is lost.

2527
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 4: Under I'm gonna go over. If I'm gonna go under

2528
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 4: on Barkley, he's got they gotta get some yards somewhere,

2529
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go over.

2530
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under again. I just don't think

2531
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 5: it's the kind of passing game I think the Chiefs

2532
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 5: will get enough pressure on him, and I think that's

2533
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 5: the kryptonite for Hurts. He can't really it's ironic because

2534
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 5: he's such a great runner, but he's not good off platform.

2535
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 2: No, well, think about that number. That's a low number

2536
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: for a quarterback in the modern era. So if he

2537
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 2: gets to thirteen and you pick the over, you win.

2538
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pick the over, but not by a lot.

2539
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 5: To thirteen is more than to twelve and a half,

2540
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 5: I can argue.

2541
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 2: My point is you can go over and it's still

2542
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 2: not a great game.

2543
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's kind of what But these numbers are established,

2544
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 5: I know, based on performances in the past, right in

2545
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 5: the past. The season. Yeah, I just the last thing

2546
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 5: was just MVP, MVP my homes.

2547
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 2: Everybody going with Mahomes.

2548
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 8: Well, I picked the Eagles to it. I have somebody

2549
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 8: I guess I'd go with Hurts. Okay, actually Saquon.

2550
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, suggar ahead, friend, you're talking about

2551
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 5: co MVP.

2552
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go with Mahomes.

2553
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 6: I just I feel like it's it has to come down,

2554
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 6: like you think the Eagles, man, I think they might

2555
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 6: get them. They might get them, and then it's going

2556
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 6: to be like every minute thirty lefts and Patrick Mahoery

2557
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 6: comes and you know it's like Brady, I mean, it's

2558
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 6: it's what it is right now. I mean, unless I

2559
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 6: would just say, we talked a lot about Super Bowl

2560
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 6: fifty two, you know, like, is it that kind of

2561
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 6: game where yes, Mahomes and Kelsey they go off, but

2562
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 6: Philly goes off to you know, like is that a possibility?

2563
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2564
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 5: So is there a missed field goal in this game?

2565
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 6: That's a good one.

2566
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna say yes, usually there's a myst kick.

2567
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 5: The Eagles have been shaky kicking ones all year. Yeah,

2568
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 5: I say no, how about a defensive score?

2569
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 4: There wasn't the last one right?

2570
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2571
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 2: You mean the matchup? Yeah, it's fumbled. Yeah, yeah, I'm

2572
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: gonna say. Yeah.

2573
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2574
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2575
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