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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: We are here today to speak to somebody who's been

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Speaker 3: in the headlines recently for something very unfortunate and something

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Speaker 3: we want to get some clarity on because I honestly

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Speaker 3: I'm reading through our rundown and there's just a lot

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Speaker 3: of intrigue that I have to speak to Kevin Mano.

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Speaker 3: That's how I said it, right Mano?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it, Hi, guys.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Mano is also known as Ali Photosyno's husband his

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Speaker 4: relationship to Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how I've met you, guys. You've

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Speaker 1: both been very nice over the years, and your team

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Speaker 1: sent some nice stuff over here after my news came out,

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Speaker 1: So thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a radio voice, and I know you

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Speaker 3: have a career in radio. As we kicked this thing off,

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Speaker 3: I want to keep it light at the beginning, if possible.

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Speaker 2: Are you still working in radio?

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Speaker 3: Kind of give everybody an idea of where they could

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Speaker 3: hear you or where they can catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, that's thanks. We'll do the plug right off

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Speaker 1: the top.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do a morning show, a morning radio show.

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Speaker 1: I did it and I won in LA for like

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Speaker 1: ten years on now one oh four to three MYFM there,

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Speaker 1: and now I am on one oh seven five The

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Speaker 1: River in Nashville. We've lived in Nashville for four years

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Speaker 1: or so, and I do the morning show here on

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Speaker 1: a station called The River with my friends Ricky and

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Speaker 1: Zach and it's a ton of fun. And I've been

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Speaker 1: doing morning radio for you know, almost fifteen years now,

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Speaker 1: and I absolutely love it. I wake up at four o'clock,

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Speaker 1: even on the weekends, and so that that schedule suits me.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that's a special person.

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Speaker 1: Something wrong with me. But then I also do a

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Speaker 1: daily podcast which is just my own solo thing called

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Speaker 1: First Thing with Kevin Mannon which is ten minutes every morning,

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Speaker 1: just a quick recap of all of the top headlines,

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Speaker 1: just a very easy, efficient way to get the news

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Speaker 1: in the morning. So doing all that, I've.

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Speaker 2: Listened to your podcast, I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: I love the concept of a quick hitter to get

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Speaker 3: me caught up and then any further details I need

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Speaker 3: I can go out and kind of research. I think

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Speaker 3: it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Totally, and I'm so I love listening to podcasts and music.

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Speaker 1: I always have my AirPods in so to be able

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Speaker 1: to get sort of the headlines without having to doom scroll,

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Speaker 1: just while you're doing other things, while you're getting yourself

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Speaker 1: ready in the morning. Like that, to me, that's how

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Speaker 1: I want to consume the news. So that's that's what

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Speaker 4: You to You just said that you've been in Nashville

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Speaker 4: for about four years. I remember when I moved to

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Speaker 4: Rhode Island. Ali, I think she. I think she messaged

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Speaker 4: me being like, I'm also in the same boat right now.

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Speaker 4: We just moved to a new place, like I'm kind

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Speaker 4: of regretting it, we both having moved from LA at

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Speaker 4: the same time. And she was like, I hear it's

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Speaker 4: supposed to take two years to get adjusted to a

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Speaker 4: new place. How have you guys adjusted now four years then.

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Speaker 1: We've definitely adjusted. I mean, there are still things that

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Speaker 1: we miss. Honestly, we missed about California. We will always

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Speaker 1: love California. We go back and visit. We have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of friends there, but no, Nashville is home now

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Speaker 1: and we love it here. We have a ton of friends,

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Speaker 1: Like it didn't take about two years, was right? I

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Speaker 1: would say two years in a new place is probably

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Speaker 1: a good a pretty good uh you know barometer. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're we're good now we're settled here.

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Speaker 4: Well, you might have a new neighbor in Ben in

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Speaker 4: a few years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My my wife's family's off from Nashville, so everybody keeps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben, I'm sure you and I talked about this

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Speaker 1: a lot a long time ago when we first met.

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Speaker 1: But I grew up, I spent so much time in Warsaw, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: That's where all of my mom's sisters and my grandma.

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Speaker 1: That's where everybody lived when I was growing up, so

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Speaker 2: I remember this. Not a lot of people have been there,

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Speaker 2: but the good ones have.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Yes, Why it feels like you're always meeting somebody

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Speaker 4: who has memories from Warsaw.

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Speaker 2: Bet And it's apart a small town?

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Speaker 4: Is it a little the lake?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like it's it's kind of like a hub.

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Speaker 2: People gravitate towards it.

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Speaker 3: When they want to better themselves.

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Speaker 1: How are you? How are you? Do you say? Rhode Island?

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Speaker 1: How are you there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It's I've definitely adjusted. I would still rather view

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Speaker 4: by my family in Virginia, but we'll see that might

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Speaker 2: She makes no secrets, Kevin. Speaking of.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, before we dive into kind of why we're here today,

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Speaker 3: Ali did leave four Special Forces, and that is a

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Speaker 3: topic that I am curious about now. I'm a little confused, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: and maybe you can bring some clarity to this. Trista

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Speaker 3: and Ryan obviously are married. Trista was on the show

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Speaker 3: as well. Ryan was posting, we're not gonna go into

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Speaker 3: you know how we feel about the post. We've already

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Speaker 3: done that in a very past episode. But he was

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Speaker 3: posting like she was gone for a long time, even

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Speaker 3: though we only saw her on two episodes, right, Yes, Allie,

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Speaker 3: similar situation when she left the show? Are they gone

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Speaker 3: a lot long? And then my fallow up to that is,

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Speaker 3: how was that on you? Being kind of a solo parent?

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Speaker 1: My mom came and helped out when she was gone,

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Speaker 1: was fully committed to this. We got a cold plunge

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Speaker 1: because of it. She was working out three times a day,

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Speaker 1: like it was crazy. She was ready. So we were

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Speaker 1: hoping she would be gone the whole time, like best

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Speaker 1: when she was leaving the hotel, like I wouldn't hear

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Speaker 1: from her for ten days. Sadly, that did not happen.

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Speaker 1: They made her leave the show because her finger. She

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Speaker 1: hurt her finger and so they medically withdrew her. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was there. There were like two or three days

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Speaker 1: would say all total, she was She was only on

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Speaker 2: And those seven or eight days you had support.

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Speaker 3: And so, I mean, as sad as it is to

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Speaker 1: I was doing okay. And you know, I mean distance

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Speaker 2: Stretch out, I got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, full starfish.

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Speaker 4: Didn't she like train for six weeks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the minute she did.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. Honestly, she as far as we know,

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Speaker 1: And I was I mean, I like, I like to

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Speaker 1: blown away by the things she was doing and how

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Speaker 1: strong she got before the show, and it was man like.

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Speaker 1: I was sleeping one night, it was, you know, two

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Speaker 1: I knew that meant she was back with her phone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big deal just to say yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin, we're talking about family and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: physical fitness, and the reason we're here today is because

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Speaker 3: recently you've came out publicly about your diagnosis with thyroid cancer.

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Speaker 3: The first question I have for you is, how are

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Speaker 3: the announcement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm a little anxious because I

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Speaker 1: here in Nashville. But really, I'm not just saying this.

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. I feel like the overwhelming feeling is

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Speaker 1: everybody has been so supportive, and again my Mom's coming

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Speaker 1: But I just I feel good. I'm not stressed, I'm

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Speaker 1: not freaked out. I'm like, I know that this is

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 4: Your Instagram noticed to all the followers about it was

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Speaker 4: also very positive. What were your symptoms going into it

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Speaker 4: that made you even get checked out in the first place?

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Speaker 1: None, I had no symptoms. Ali and I. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little over a year ago, we went to Chicago and

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Speaker 1: we did those Perneuvo full body scans.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just reached out to them because Trista also

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Speaker 4: just got one it. Actually I'm interested.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the only reason I know about this, honestly.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: Yes, When we did it, you know, we got our

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Speaker 1: results from the scans, and for the most part, Ali

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Speaker 1: and I both had you know, clean bill of health,

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Speaker 1: which was great. But we obviously shared the results of

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Speaker 1: the scans with our doctor and there were like two

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Speaker 1: tiny dots on my thyroid that she was like, let's

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. You know, we'll check back

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Speaker 1: in in a year and see if it's grown or

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Speaker 1: if it's nothing whatever. And so a year after we

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Speaker 1: on it. I did, and yeah, then it we found

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Speaker 1: the past years. So then we did a biopsy and

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Speaker 1: then a cat scan, so we did all the stuff

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Speaker 4: Pre Novo is like the next step in our health.

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Speaker 4: I really feel like, be totally magical if we could

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Speaker 3: You're making me feel all convicted here. You know, when

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Speaker 1: That's a great question, Ashley. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: We were wondering these symptoms of thyroid cancer if Kevin

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Speaker 5: of a sudden could be an early sign.

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Speaker 6: But from what I understand, like the most most people

442
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Speaker 6: find out from like an accidental scan, like going in

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Speaker 6: and getting scanned for something else. And then they see

444
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Speaker 6: it if the people who don't have symptoms. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, gosh, we're just so lucky that we found it,

446
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Speaker 6: and yeah, we're just I think count he's he's more

447
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Speaker 6: anxious than he's letting on.

448
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Speaker 5: Also, let me just.

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Speaker 1: Say a lot of anxiety in general. I'm just like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like he's like playing it cool and everything, and

451
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 6: he's being very positive, which is also important. But you know,

452
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Speaker 6: it's still cancer and it's still surgery, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think Ali's getting annoyed with me, like, you know, her

454
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Speaker 1: and the kids are trying to relax at the end

455
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Speaker 1: of the night, I'm just pacing around the house, just

456
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Speaker 1: looking for things to stay busy. Yeah, so yeah, she

457
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Speaker 1: definitely witnesses my anxiety, but it's not too bad.

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Speaker 6: But we're like making plans like tonight we're going out

459
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Speaker 6: with friends to play trivia, and I'm just we're trying

460
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Speaker 6: to do things to like just keep his mind busy

461
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Speaker 6: because I'm also what we've heard from other people who

462
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Speaker 6: have had cancer, stress is like the absolute worst thing

463
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Speaker 6: for cancer. You want to minimize that as much as possible,

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Speaker 6: So we're trying.

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Speaker 3: You know, Kevin, we were just talking to Ali as

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Speaker 3: we closed up here on why he was anxious, and I,

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Speaker 3: you know, take it for me. I've had ten surgeries,

468
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Speaker 3: none of them cancer related, so I'm not there's no quantifying,

469
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Speaker 3: you know, better or worse here. I always no matter what,

470
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Speaker 3: and I don't think I'm.

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Speaker 2: Scared of surgery.

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Speaker 3: I always have these thoughts for like three days leading

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Speaker 3: up to the big event, of like worst case scenario thinking.

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Speaker 2: And you know it is for me. It comes from

475
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Speaker 2: most of my life.

476
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Speaker 3: I try to have control, and I know that for

477
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Speaker 3: this period of time in my life, I'm gonna have

478
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Speaker 3: zero control. But here's the cool part. Here's the thing

479
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Speaker 3: to find comfort in. The people that will have control

480
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 3: are literally the experts at keeping you alive. Like that's

481
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Speaker 3: what they get paid for, and like, I don't get

482
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Speaker 3: I don't even know how to keep myself alive, but

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 1: And Ben's that jogging when he says he doesn't know

485
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Speaker 1: how to keep himself alive. When was your last physical?

486
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Speaker 6: Ben?

487
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Speaker 2: This five years ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get in so much trouble. My mom's

489
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Speaker 3: gonna listen to it, my wife's gonna listen to this.

490
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Speaker 3: They're gonna ride away be so.

491
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Speaker 2: Mad at me.

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Speaker 5: You have to like get your blood work done into that's.

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Speaker 4: Just like a wifely duty, right, Yeah, Allie, I feel

494
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Speaker 4: like I'm always the one that's like, I'm making you

495
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Speaker 4: a doctor's appointment because I know that you never ever will.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly us too.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm sure Kevin might have already said this, but

498
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Speaker 6: since this happened, I've like ordered everything under the sun,

499
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Speaker 6: whether it did you like brazil nuts or blueberry powder

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Speaker 6: or roughly sprat.

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Speaker 1: We have changed so we have a new gray toilet

502
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Speaker 1: paper in the house. So there's so many little changes

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Speaker 1: that she's implemented.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's not bleached, because regular toilet papers bleached, so

505
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 5: we're just.

506
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Speaker 4: Like ring away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: Down there especially you know for girls, Like there's a

509
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Speaker 6: lot of very sensitive absorbent parts of your body down there.

510
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Speaker 5: So it's anyway, that's a whole other time.

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Speaker 4: Ali, come on and do another health podcast with us.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, you're never gonna have a cheeseberger again.

514
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 5: We've gone down the health rabbit for sure.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, that's good to me, Like, it's

517
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Speaker 6: it's only.

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Speaker 5: Positive to make positive changes in your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, well, we'll be thinking about you, guys.

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Speaker 3: We have been obviously, this is a this is a

521
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: big deal, not to be go understated, but your positivity,

522
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: your outlook and also here's the cool part. What everybody

523
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: that knows is saying is this is gonna be great.

524
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna be just fine, and that is an

525
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Speaker 3: awesome thing to celebrate. We're glad you caught it early

526
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: and thankful for those scans. Everybody listening, if you have

527
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Speaker 3: the opportunity of the chance, go do it. It's save

528
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Speaker 3: some lives. It's also saved some really difficult situations. So

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Speaker 3: but yes, we'll be thinking about you. When is the

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Speaker 3: date of the surgery again, so anybody listening can check in.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure when this will be posted, but it's

532
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Speaker 1: a few days away and it's the tenth. It's Monday,

533
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Speaker 1: so the day of Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have it up, uh and I will be

535
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Speaker 3: checking in to the hospital that night to have our

536
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Speaker 3: very first baby.

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Speaker 4: So this is this is the craziest thing ever. You're

538
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Speaker 4: both gonna do this on Super Bowl Sunday. You're not

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Speaker 4: gonna be to enjoy that moment at all.

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Speaker 2: More important things in life right, Well.

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Speaker 1: Ben, that's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations Manas, that's so exciting.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was asking the parenting questions. I'm trying

545
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Speaker 3: to get any wisdom and advice that I can. And

546
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: so how do you tell your kids really difficult news?

547
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: And it sounds like you just sandwich it with and

548
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Speaker 3: by the way, our Grandpa's coming.

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Speaker 2: They go, oh, exactly, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That really works. I want to end with a fun

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Speaker 4: question for both of you guys, because you're both going

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Speaker 4: into something life changing, possibly in all good ways, on Monday.

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Speaker 4: What is your guilty pleasure comfort thing? Is there a

554
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Speaker 4: food that you're going to celebrate with? Is there a

555
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Speaker 4: song that's keeping you giving your spirits up?

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Speaker 1: It's a good question.

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Speaker 5: Kevin will be eating broccoli spouts and blueberries.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm looking forward to Ali and my mom bringing

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Speaker 1: me a bunch of smoothies because the doctor said I

560
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Speaker 1: just have to drink food for a while. So I

561
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Speaker 1: like a good peanut butter smooth But I also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not a song, but I'm looking I don't lay

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Speaker 1: in bed and watch movies ever, but I'm gonna watch

564
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Speaker 1: all of the Best Picture nominees while I'm laying in bed, recovering.

565
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna watch all those Oscar nominated.

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Speaker 4: Movies, all those very indie movies these days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, done, That's what are my comforts? Yeah goodness.

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Speaker 3: Right now it's vodka soda at the end of the

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Speaker 3: day or or Honestly, my wife and I have spent

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Speaker 3: the last week like going to bed early, laying in

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Speaker 3: bed and just appreciating like this time before chaos, of

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Speaker 3: just the dog, two of us snuggling watching TV without

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Speaker 3: any other thoughts in the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, man, it's your final few days of just

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Speaker 1: the two of you.

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Speaker 2: That's wild.

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Speaker 1: Really try to save it as much as you can.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome and wild.

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Speaker 5: Can I give my last minute unsolicited yea acting advice? Okay.

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Speaker 6: One thing, especially now that our kids are older, that

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Speaker 6: I have been reflecting on every day, and I think

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Speaker 6: this has been like even multiplied one hundredfold since we've

583
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Speaker 6: got Kevin's diagnosis, is just how quickly time is going by, right,

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Speaker 6: And once you have kids, time is going to start

585
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Speaker 6: going by so much faster than it used to, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: I feel like the last nine years of my life

587
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Speaker 6: our daughter's eight. But you know, I was pregnant for

588
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Speaker 6: that first time has gone by faster than like the

589
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Speaker 6: previous twenty five years, and so I guess my advice

590
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Speaker 6: would be like to slow down as much as you can,

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Speaker 6: like because it truly does.

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Speaker 5: They say it goes.

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Speaker 6: By so fast, and I know that's such a clised,

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Speaker 6: shaye thing to say, but I think when you think

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Speaker 6: of it in terms of like I don't know, hearing

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Speaker 6: from parents that truly the time, like it's just it's

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Speaker 6: like fast forward. And then now with what's going on

598
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Speaker 6: with Kevin in health, and we realize that we're at

599
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Speaker 6: that stage in life where people start getting cancer and

600
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 6: people start getting sick and old, it just makes you

601
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Speaker 6: like really appreciate every moment.

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Speaker 4: So it would be And then Kevin Alli, I wonder

603
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Speaker 4: if you're with me on this, you're going into your

604
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: first child like it's gonna be fine. It's the second

605
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: one that just turns your world upside down. Yeah. I

606
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Speaker 4: think the same here.

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Speaker 1: And I missed those days when our daughter Molly was

608
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Speaker 1: just a tiny little baby. Just taking care of a

609
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: tiny little baby was like that was your only care

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Speaker 1: in the world. It was so great, So you're gonna

611
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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Jared and I were thinking about that's a

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Speaker 4: lot this week. I don't know why this week of

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Speaker 4: all weeks, but like, do you remember what it was

615
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: just Dawson? How easy was that? How did we think

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Speaker 4: that was ever?

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Speaker 5: Hard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: But it is gonna be hard, Ben, don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry that's gonna be hard to it is hard.

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Speaker 4: It don't feel bad for it being hard.

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Speaker 3: It's it's an exciting time again. Kevin wishing the best

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