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Speaker 1: just need to get straight to I'm so excited because

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Speaker 1: this week my movie that I filmed during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: essentially it's called Welcome Home Christmas on Lifetime. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be airing this Saturday. And so excited because we

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Speaker 1: And let's get right to it with the one and

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Speaker 1: only country superstar Craig Morgan. Welcome, Kras, What up, buddy,

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Speaker 1: It's good. It's good to see y'all. It's good to

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, absolutely, I'm super uncomfortable around Janna. Why

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Speaker 1: You're so like You're acting is so good that I

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Speaker 1: Um always so welcoming, You're so kind, um obviously, I

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Speaker 1: I love his energy around it Yeah, just that's what

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Speaker 1: I was kind of commended him on that because just

426
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Speaker 1: seeing his energy around it just reassuring you that you

427
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: can still have happy days and that's okay. You don't

428
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: have to feel guilt, you know, around that. So he's

429
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: an amazing person. He really is. You know, I've got

430
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: to know him a little bit with you over the years.

431
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: You know him very very well, and he's just one

432
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: of those people man that just makes you know your

433
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: day better when you're around him. One percent. Yeah, I

434
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: just adore him. So that was awesome. Alright, guys, so

435
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: excited because up next we have my other costar, um

436
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: Tim Reid and his wife Daphne Axwell read all right,

437
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: we are so excited, Mike, do you want to do?

438
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: By the way, before we even start, am I allowed

439
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: to say aunt Viev? Am I not allowed to say

440
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: aunt Viev? Girl? If you say aunt Viev, I'll salute you.

441
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: She's the real ant Viv And that's how it's going

442
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: to introduce her. If you guys don't know those voices,

443
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: you will when you hear him some more. But we

444
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: have Mr Tim Reid, who's most famously known to our

445
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: generation as the father Ray Campbell and sister Sister and

446
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: then the real aunt Viv Miss Daphne Maxwell read herself,

447
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming down. We're so

448
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: excited to have you on Wine Down. Just a little background,

449
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of working with Tim reid Um

450
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Speaker 1: on the movie that comes out this weekend called The

451
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: Welcome Home Christmas on Lifetime, and you know I and

452
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: he's married to obviously the beautiful Daphne. And you know,

453
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I just said this in an interview last week. I

454
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: said you were my favorite scene partner because you just

455
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: you just come with such grace and and in the beginning,

456
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: I have to say I was a little intimidated because

457
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh god, I hope he

458
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: likes me, and you know, he looks mad or angry,

459
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do with this energy,

460
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: so I was I was scared. But the more I

461
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: got to know you and your personality and it was

462
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: just you were just so fascinating to me and I

463
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: just loved hearing your story. So thank you for you know,

464
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: for just being so kind and such a great scene

465
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: partner as well. Yeah, I was very upset when when Janna,

466
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, told me that she was able to work

467
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: with you, Tim, and especially the days that she was

468
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: shooting with you, because this whole pandemic thing ruined you know,

469
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: family and friends to come on and see. You know.

470
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: I only came one day, and it was a day

471
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: that you guys ended up shutting down production. So I

472
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this is such a waste here.

473
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: One time she shoots in Tennessee, like an hour away

474
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: from our house, I was looking forward to being there

475
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: and being around people like you, and I couldn't go.

476
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: So but yeah, she had nothing but great things to

477
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: say about you, and and so we're excited to talk

478
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: to you guys. And you guys have been married for

479
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: thirty eight years, So how how have you managed to

480
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: stay married but also have your careers, especially in such

481
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: a demanding and also you know, with being on sets

482
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: and just being around other people, being able to get

483
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: away too. You know, we have our careers and we

484
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: also have our own interests, and we we have the freedom,

485
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: uh to travel individually altogether. And uh it's you know,

486
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: you need that that debriefing time. You need to be

487
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: able to get away and come back and get away

488
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: and come back. And uh that's certainly been one of

489
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: the parts for for me personally. And we have a big,

490
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: sick level of love and trust and support for each

491
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: other that we want each other to expand with whatever

492
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: they're dreaming about, and we support that. And supporting that

493
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: is making compromises and you know, making decisions according to

494
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: what you want and what you know your partner wants,

495
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: and then learning how to fight fair. That's so we're

496
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: working on that. Is there a part when you guys

497
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: have been together so long, we're earlier in your marriage

498
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: because you have that same you know, occupation where there's

499
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: a maybe a hint of jealousy here there. You know,

500
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: obviously ultimately you love and support each other, but there's

501
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: got to be some of that at some point. Now,

502
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: we worked together for many, many, many years at the

503
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: beginning of our relationships, so there was nothing to be

504
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: jealous about. We were both tired. You do you do

505
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: reach a point where you where you say, because after

506
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: a while we said, you know, it's time for us

507
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: to work separately. Know it's and it's not so much

508
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: of us, it's a it's the business itself. This business

509
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's don't have to tell you it will

510
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: it will put you in a box as quick as

511
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: quickly as possible because it control the box. And I

512
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: was never ever, I never was raising a box, never

513
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: been around that kind of structural light. So I don't

514
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: know how to adapt to it. You know, I'm still

515
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what is the husband. Uh, you know,

516
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's freelancing and uh, if you

517
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: have the freedom and the respect of your partner and

518
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: you have the freedom to freelance a little bit, it helps.

519
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's really been People ask me sometimes,

520
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: like I'll be traveling and my friends said, well are

521
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: you going. I said, I'm going to Brazil. I'll be

522
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: going for a few said keep going to Brazil. But

523
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: he said, your wife, let you go to Brazil, and

524
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: I'm going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how

525
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: to answer the question, because it's basically how you started

526
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: the relationship. I was traveling when I met her, we

527
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: were dating. I took her with me. Sick seeks to

528
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: travel through Europe and in South Africa. So it's not

529
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden getting married and I can't travel.

530
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. So that's the way it's been.

531
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: We've always been a traveling team or any body that's

532
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: very cool and speaking of like being put in a box,

533
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: tim is as actors and as you know, the kind

534
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: of shows that you all really I make up that

535
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: reached that next level of fame in y'all his careers.

536
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: That's I make up that it's such a type casted role,

537
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: right with that family friendly comedic role. How was that

538
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: for you too, as as professionals in your occupation to

539
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of get out of that and do those projects

540
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that are outside of that type cast Oh, no problem

541
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: at all. Whoever calls and says we got a job

542
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: for you, We're on it. For me, it was it

543
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: was I've always was taught. Like I said, I've never

544
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: had structure. I don't know what a family structure is.

545
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: I've never had because I was a bastard child. Was

546
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know. My father was so late in life,

547
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: so I never had the structure was never Oh it's

548
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: dinner time, Aossey Inherit to me was like an alien show.

549
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't know when he was talking about so um

550
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: with that. I think my my thing is to keep

551
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: aggressively facing change. Uh. If I felt like I was

552
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: being like when I was doing sitcom and I was

553
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: very successful at sitcoms, had quite a few. After KRP,

554
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: the sitcom business went. People forget it went't bomb, sitcoms died.

555
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: You couldn't get anything. I don't care who you were.

556
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Bill Cosby and The Cosby Show,

557
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't be the term sitcom would not be

558
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: existing in our vocabulary. He saved the sitcom business. However,

559
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: what do you do? You came out of sitcom, You're

560
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: trying to get a job, and that all there is

561
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: these our comedy style shows like Heart to Heart, Life

562
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Sign and Its Sign. So I had to restructure myself

563
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: at the structure of my body. I started went to

564
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: the gym, worked out. I wanted to become somebody who

565
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: could work in our show. And guess what I got,

566
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: signing and time and that. But I say it was

567
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: it was. It was changing my whole structure. Then all

568
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, those shows began to die. And guess

569
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: what was happening this new thing in comedy, sort of

570
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: dramatic comedies. I quit the show and I started uh searching,

571
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: and I ended up with Frank's place. So I'm saying

572
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: is that you have to be able to ignore the box,

573
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: you have to creach your own reality right now, the

574
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: reality that the world and we all exist in. One

575
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: of the things I want to say about this Love

576
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Your Lady, who stars in this movie that's coming out,

577
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: is we had a lot of difficulty in making this movie.

578
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: They had left people with acting on the crew. It

579
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: was COVID nineteen. We were one of the first films

580
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: to have to deal with the the restrictions that were

581
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: put on us by the unions, and not restrictions, but

582
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: rules and good rules. By the way, wearing a mask,

583
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: all those things. No one had ever gone through that

584
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: before and make it and the cost every third day

585
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: we had to be tested every third day. They sticking

586
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: stuff up your nose, the whole crew, I mean. And

587
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: then we were on lockdown. And as you mentioned, so

588
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: to see the talent and the crew. It's eighty degrees,

589
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: we're planning like it's snowing. And yet um, those those workers,

590
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: that crew with masks, they had to wear mask every

591
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: time they on the set and eight degrees struggling with

592
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: lights and stands. Everybody gave a hundred percent And I

593
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: appreciate that kind of work ethic and I think it

594
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: shows in the movie from what I've seen, you know. Yeah,

595
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: so you gotta keep changing, you gotta adjust. I do

596
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: agree with that, Daphany. I want to go back to

597
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: something you said, um about how you're learning how to

598
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: fight fair. What does that look like to you in

599
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: a marriage with fighting fair? Fighting fair is learning how

600
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: to listen, um, not just talk. And we still stru

601
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: go with that sometimes. But we know some basic ground

602
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: rules that you just it's not a do or die situation.

603
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: They're going to be there tomorrow, take a pause, refresh,

604
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: and move on. I like that. And Tim, you know

605
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: you you touch on it just a few minutes ago.

606
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: But you also talked to Brandon and I about this

607
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: on set, about how you were raised and it was

608
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: a tough neighborhood you you know, like you said, um,

609
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: what you said about you know, your upbringing. Yeah, and

610
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: can you can you tell the story about Martin Luther King? Oh? Yeah, Well, Um,

611
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I have had the pleasure and the incredible experience of

612
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: having um interaction with Dr King at a very early age.

613
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: This was before he was well known internat internationally or nationally.

614
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I was in the late fifties and he was coming

615
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: to our church to speak, uh, and talk about this

616
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: they can called the civil rights. Well, this was before Montgomery,

617
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: and I had gotten in some trouble because I was

618
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: running with the pretty rough group of people, young people

619
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: of which all are dead now but myself and one other.

620
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: But and we had gotten some trouble and it was

621
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: a matter of me going to reform school or somebody

622
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: standing up for me and my grandmother at back of

623
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: the day. As usually the black family, they took me

624
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: to the pastor of our church and said, uh, talk

625
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: to him, because we're gonna lose him if we say,

626
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: if he doesn't listen. So the pastor looked at me,

627
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: so you one of those top kids and juvenile, deliquid,

628
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: nos on that cup at all. I just you know,

629
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I find myself to survive hanging out of these guys.

630
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I got a job for. I want you to beat

631
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: the body God for this young man coming in called

632
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Dr Martin Luther, the King and he's going to speak,

633
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: and I want you since we need a tough guy.

634
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: And I was like what, So myself and another young

635
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: man who was a brilliant student in school comes from

636
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: a will well to do black family. Um, he put

637
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: he and I together to be Dr King's bodyguard for

638
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: a full day. He got there in the morning and

639
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: we stayed with him until he left late that evening,

640
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: and he spoke. We were constantly when he was impressed

641
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: we were standing there next to him. And I will

642
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: never forget the experience because I've never been around anybody

643
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: like that. I've never seen a rock star. This man

644
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: had craped us. His whole being was common to me.

645
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't I can't even explain it now. It's like,

646
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been in the presence anyone

647
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: that had that kind of effect on me. And the

648
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: young kid who was with me between between us, we um.

649
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: We had an experience that I'll never forget. And after

650
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: that was over, we talked about He talked to us

651
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: about the sort of rights movement coming and what he

652
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: thought the world was going to have to do to

653
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: to give rights to us. And after that, I began

654
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: to think about that. And when I finally changed my

655
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: life and ended up in college, I joined the Civil

656
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Rights Era. I was a leader of a couple of organizations,

657
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: and then I went and marched on Washington in the

658
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: nineteen three and I was beside him for a brief

659
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: period of the March when I stood in the tree,

660
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: I was on on a more militant side. At that time.

661
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I was a president of a group offshoot of Smith

662
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: and uh what. I listened to him that day and

663
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: he gave them teach and again he changed my life. Again.

664
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: I took the non violent approach, went back and joined

665
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the became president of the c D College chapter, and

666
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: it again changed my life. So on two occasions, he

667
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: his words and his being had such an influence on

668
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: as he here man, That's why I am where I

669
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: am today because I was certainly going in the wrong again. Yeah.

670
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I love, by the way watching Daphne because she just

671
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: loves you. You can just tell, Like Daphne, you're just

672
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: over there smiling and listening to your man, Like you

673
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: can just tell there's so much love between the two

674
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: of you, Like I just right just smiling. Later, when

675
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: we're done with this show, Jan is going to be like,

676
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: why don't you look at me that way? I want

677
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: you to look at me the way Daphney looks at

678
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Tim's is on camera, right, You know that I appreciate

679
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: you sharing that, Tim, And you know from from y'all's

680
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: experience not only in the industry, you know, being in

681
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: it so long and being together in it for so long.

682
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: How have you seen things as of recent as to

683
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: African American actors in the industry, are you feeling the

684
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: need to take responsible reality as in like helping to

685
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: educate people or explain things to people, or how like

686
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: what is your personal take on on changing the temperature

687
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: and the environment of your occupation and just societies in

688
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: general moving forward. We have been around for so long

689
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: that people ask us questions and ask us ask for

690
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: our guidance, and Tim is great at teaching what you

691
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: need to know about the business. I am one of

692
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: the ones who help inspire people, young people to take

693
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: a path. Sometimes they only need a push to get started.

694
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: But we both have some basic advice that we give

695
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: to young people. And changing what's happening now is not

696
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: for us to do. This is not our time. This

697
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: is young people's time and we need to keep up

698
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: with them. At this point, all the technology, all the

699
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: platforms that are available now, there are a lot more

700
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: opportunities for UH young people to get involved in this.

701
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: We just would like to make sure that they get

702
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: involved with it with a sense of responsibility for the

703
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: images that they're creating. And that's what Tim is very

704
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: good at teaching. Okay, thank you. Uh. I'm in my

705
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: legacy period of my career. I'm going through the three

706
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: quarter life crisis, trying to figure out what I want

707
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: to be when I grow up. And I've decided that

708
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: talk is just that talk. Everybody's got an opinion. That's

709
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: what keeps Facebook and Instagram and all these things alive

710
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter because everybody's got an opinion. What we need

711
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: to do is we need people to do things. And

712
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: I give us a whole lot of opinion. Make change,

713
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: and you've got to do that by doing so. My

714
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: game is to get into games to keep busy too.

715
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting a new Why I'm up in

716
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Maryland now because I'm talking to people about creating a

717
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: new show, trying to give people opportunities. I launched a

718
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: new television channel streaming service, Legacy of the People Network,

719
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: and it's global and it's on the Internet. Use these

720
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: new things technology to to be a part of the action.

721
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: Sitting back complaining and opinionating and criticizing is it doesn't work.

722
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: It may soothe your ego, but it doesn't do anything

723
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: to bring prosperity to you people around it. So the

724
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: thing is to keep busy, to keep doing, and that's

725
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: about do. I work with young filmmakers around the world.

726
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: I have associates and on the continent of Africa, so countries.

727
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: I have associates in England through the British Film Institute

728
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: that I've been a lot of young filmmakers and so

729
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: we're now working together and a lot of the content

730
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: I have on a network coming from them. And so

731
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: is to keep busy. You know, I act right to

732
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: do someone talking. So it's to keep busy. That's the

733
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: only thing I know to do. And I'm not allowing

734
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: this reality that's been thrown on us to be my reality.

735
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm busier now and I was before. And uh, you

736
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: have to create your own reality. Don't buy into this reality.

737
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: That's because it's all opinionated. No, I don't really knows

738
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: who's gonna win election, who's not gonna who cares? Just

739
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: get busy. Vote, you know, you want to change things

740
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: to vote, You want to do something, get create something,

741
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: create jobs for other people, create opportunities for the people.

742
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: That to me is the phone I'll die doing that that. Yeah,

743
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm motivated to go create something. I'm ready to come.

744
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm fired up. Let's do it. Tim and Daphne, thank

745
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: you guys so much for our listeners. Don't forget to

746
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: watch um Welcome Home Christmas starting My Beautiful Wife and

747
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: Tim Reid and among others this Saturday, November seven, and

748
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: then Daphne, be sure to catch the Fresh Prince Reunion

749
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: show on Thanksgiving weekend on HBO Max. Oh, it's gonna

750
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: be FUNKYA And my Christmas movie is on December one.

751
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: It's called the Business of Christmas and it's gonna be

752
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: on b E two. Oh heck yeah, getting the Christmas

753
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: stare at everybody. And you can go to my channel

754
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: l L G C y of a people network dot

755
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: com and that will take you to the platform to

756
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: show you all the content. We got a lot of contact,

757
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: a lot of content. I love it. Tim, Daphanie, thank

758
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: you guys so much, love you, thank you, thank you

759
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: for your time. Okay, ah, that's the sweetest people. Yeah.

760
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: I just want to like not even happy about Tim

761
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: though too. Like I just every time we were in

762
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: a scene together, I was just like, will you tell

763
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: me a story? Daddy, Grandpa tell me a story. Like

764
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: I just I was like, what book should I read?

765
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: What should I do this? And I told him one

766
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: time to us in there and he was asking about comedy.

767
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm not funny. I can't do comedy.

768
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: And he was just like, don't say that. He's like,

769
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: you're very funny. He's like, I think you're so funny.

770
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I thought you only did comedy and then you know,

771
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: and then he was like, you inspired me to do comedy.

772
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: It's like he's just so freaking inspiring. He speaks with

773
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: such wisdom and calm charisma that is just like you

774
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: hang on every word that he says. But I just

775
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I love what he just ended with the like don't

776
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: make the reality your reality. Yeah, He's like, don't worry

777
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: about what everyone else is saying to do and just

778
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: do what you do. Just go do it. I love that.

779
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: Do you see how though in the beginning, I was

780
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: intimidated by him just because he's so I'm always like that.

781
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, yeah, he hates me. I

782
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: was like, but my mission was to get him to

783
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: like crack a smile filming, And I remember the one

784
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: time I got to smile. I was like, I got you.

785
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just made. I'm done, I can quit.

786
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: But he's just so fascinating. I just oh, man. I

787
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: loved working with him. And he plays my general in

788
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: the movie. Um General Patton and Chloe was my character.

789
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: We're just kind of were buds. But I also I

790
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: really respect him just as I do as a person.

791
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: So hopefully y'all will see that connection. Two very very

792
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: beautiful people inside and out. Tim and Daphne just wow,

793
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: very very very cool to talk to them, um, and

794
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: it's like aunt viev like, it's so cool. I grew

795
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: up Flashing Fresh Frints. That was my favorite show might

796
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: be of all time. So wow, we spoke to just

797
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: some legends today, legends in their games. Mark, how are

798
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: you feeling over there, dude, because I know you're a

799
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: fan of Tim. I am a fan of Tim. I

800
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: mean honestly, you guys have him from sister sister. For me,

801
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: he's w Carappy in Cincinnati use Venus fly Trap and

802
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: that show is a big part of why I'm in

803
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: radio today. So absolutely super exciting to talk to him. Yes,

804
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: he was wild. I agree. I think he's so cool. Um,

805
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what a great show. Guys. Yeah, you can't

806
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: really do any better than that. Those kind of guests. Mark,

807
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing this Saturday? You're gonna make some

808
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: hot chocolate for your wife and sit down and watch

809
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: a Welcome Home Christmas. That's right, I am. Of course

810
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: it's Jenna Night's going to do it. Yes, i am.

811
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: I've got the guy locked off on the calendar. Oh,

812
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: you're the best Seastern Thanks guys, you know you know

813
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: hear Jane's plans for it. Shut up. So they're having

814
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: she's having a girl's kind of getaway weekend, like twenty

815
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: minutes away. They got like an airbnb hearing some of

816
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: her friends and they're gonna have like a little watch party.

817
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: And I was actually looking forward to watching it with Janna,

818
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: and she's like, well you can still come like just

819
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, we'll get a center for the kids and

820
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: you can just come down and you know, like take

821
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: pictures of us watching it and like serve us hot

822
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: chocolate and give us some wine. I was like, So,

823
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: I was like, you'll may be like your movie Pitch

824
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: and there's like take care of you and all the

825
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: girls while you watch it. Heyes, anybody need to re

826
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: feel Okay. I was like, I think that you're in

827
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: an apron and nothing else. Yes, yes, or maybe a

828
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: little bow tie little boat. Yes, Oh my god, that

829
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: sounds amazing. So that's what Janna wants me to do

830
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: for the movie. I mean, and I was like, well,

831
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and get some other guys so you

832
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: can come down to we'll have a guy watch party.

833
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: You won't watch it then, like, guys, I gotta watch

834
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the beginning, the middle of the end so I know

835
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: what happens. It would be like that time. I think,

836
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: did I tell the story before? And here? When I

837
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: had a summer summer reading project. At the end of

838
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: the summer, my mom was like, all right, tell me

839
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: where the book was about. And she was like, what

840
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: was the main character's name. I was like, oh, he

841
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: didn't have one. She was She turned over the back

842
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: of the book. It said the main characters name on

843
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: the back of the book. I didn't even read the

844
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: back of the book. I was like twelve years old.

845
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: So this would be like that with the movie. She'd

846
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, so did you watch a movie. Yeah,

847
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: what was my character's name? You didn't have one? Did

848
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: you just called you therapists. Yes, that was so funny.

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Speaker 1: Alright guys, well, love you, great show and tag team

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Speaker 1: next week.