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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is the twenty seventh of

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Speaker 1: June twenty twenty two, and you know what that means.

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Speaker 1: It is time for International Fight Week to begin. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: it's also time for Morning Combat. I am nearly one

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Speaker 1: half of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I am joining you from the capital of the status

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Speaker 1: of news right here in Washington, DC, joined by the

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Speaker 1: King of Connecticut to I guess my left I guess

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yes, he's my friend in yours. He makes

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Speaker 1: up a lot of titles for himself that are no

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Speaker 1: What's up BC? How you doing, bro? Luke?

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Speaker 2: I am so damn fired up for IFW two seven

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Speaker 2: six LTMK all day nearly everyday, live show Friday, five

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm living, you know, a great life. Right now.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you a question with this

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Speaker 2: great MK sphincter shirt right here, and Luke, you know,

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Speaker 2: we got great fights this week. We got great fights

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Speaker 2: to the people. Everything right now is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's great. It's gonna be a huge week.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a busy week. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: it up one more time. First order of business, Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course we have to do a show today, but Friday,

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Speaker 1: five pm. Directly following the weigh ins. The ceremonial weigh

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Speaker 1: beer House. Free entry. You ain't gotta pay a dime.

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Speaker 1: It's right next to the T Mobile Arena. You can't

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Speaker 1: You can't get from the T Mobile Arena back to

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Speaker 2: You can't get from here to there without getting a

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Speaker 2: little mk Anya, And what do you expect from this

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Speaker 2: live show? How about in person dms from Donks? How

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Speaker 2: about the Wheel of Death, No, not the UFC wayan

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Speaker 2: show wheel, Our damn wheel. Okay, how about Sugar Reshot

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Speaker 2: Evans live and in person other special guests. Mikey Morms

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Speaker 2: on security. I mean, it's gonna be a it's gonna

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Speaker 2: that because don't forget who made this show possible. Well,

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Speaker 2: the CBS Sports budget, but because the reason why they

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Speaker 2: made this possible, Luke, was because our incredible viewers, our

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Speaker 2: at least for this year, right, and we're happy to

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Speaker 2: give you back what we promised, Okay, Luke, Like your

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Speaker 1: You how much beef jerkey from a bag are you

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Speaker 2: Okay, so back to the fight. You know who should

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Gamrod. Again, would you agree with me

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Speaker 1: No? I have round four as the most contentious. Round

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Speaker 2: liked a lot about what Gamrock did. Luke, he settled

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Speaker 2: in fact that pop was shotgun level. It was incredible

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Speaker 1: The fourth round.

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Speaker 2: Although I understand what you're saying, it was so close

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Speaker 2: If these three, as you sort of said, are sort

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Speaker 2: has to be yes, Luke. I absolutely love from this

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I think any of those old guys

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Speaker 2: obviously they're pretty damn close in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously the guest tank shown by both of these two,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Gamrock calls out Gaetche after we can get into that,

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Speaker 2: obviously our elite pound for pound nierish level fighters, I

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Speaker 2: don't like their future against this next wave because this

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Speaker 2: next wave is coming on, Luke, and they don't seem

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Speaker 2: to have holes in their game? Is that too much?

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Speaker 2: Am I reacting to the moment of a great one

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Speaker 2: night stand and telling you I love you too soon? Here, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that these guys are coming on and the

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. If I could say

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Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget Gouram Kutete Lozzi who already

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Speaker 1: And in fact, if you go back and watch Kutete

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Speaker 1: So I totally agree that these guys, dude, when they

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Speaker 1: good part about sar Yukin is he really worked on

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Speaker 1: the body kicks and then forcing the stand switch was incredible.

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Speaker 1: His defensive wrestling was good for two rounds, but Gamrod's

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Speaker 1: be looking for. Right all this time, they've been telling

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Speaker 1: Of course, there is effective grappling, but that's a function

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Speaker 1: You guys are telling us that damage, impact and the

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Speaker 1: guy who clearly clearly got outstruck is the guy who

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Speaker 1: Under that condition, he should have won, but under the

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Speaker 1: And I frankly can't understand how round four can go

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Speaker 2: Okay, I remember that spinning backfist happen. It didn't land

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Speaker 1: He got numerically outstruck in that round too.

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Speaker 2: He did. Although let's not forget though Gamrot did come

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Speaker 2: right now, Luke, we're in this you know, spinning toilet

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Speaker 2: feel like, well I don't have to ask you this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like judges are confused at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what.

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Speaker 2: You're asking about round four, and it's like part of

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Speaker 2: what I feel like. No, there wasn't from either side.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't ground and pound, there wasn't extended submission, attempts

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Speaker 2: well they ultimately canceled each other out. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: just automatically equals each other out or if gamrat had

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Speaker 2: the letter of the law. Look, we're going backwards every week.

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Speaker 1: shit that Gamrot. You know, do those scrambles in the

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Speaker 1: first two rounds. Those are some of the best wrestling

432
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Speaker 1: scrambles you'll see in MMA at any point in the

433
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Speaker 1: MMA's history. I really mean that, Like, that level of

434
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,400
Speaker 1: ability is extraordinary. And when Gamrock was hoisting his leg

435
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,679
Speaker 1: for the tree top takedown and so you can have

436
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,639
Speaker 1: that kind of flexibility and balance to that is this

437
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: that is like you got to be I was shocked

438
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 1: watching how good that was. But for Gamrat to then

439
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: take over late with the ability of control that he

440
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 1: had there. And I'm the guy, by the way, to

441
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 1: be clear, I value control. I do think it has value.

442
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 1: But every week we get told well, unless it leads

443
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Speaker 1: to the X or Y, which would be you know,

444
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 1: signific round to pound, like you can really assess or

445
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, fight fight ending scenarios in terms of well

446
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 1: the threats of submission, right, then the control position doesn't

447
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: really mean a whole lot. Okay, Well, if that's the

448
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: way you're gonna judge it, I mean I don't agree

449
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 1: with that, but if that's the way you're gonna judge it,

450
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 1: then judge it that way. Judge it that way. You

451
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 1: can't have a guy taking off of his feet with

452
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Speaker 1: a shot and numerically outstruck. Then the other guy does

453
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Speaker 1: well with control, I admit he did again, he did

454
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Speaker 1: really well with control. I was blown away by that

455
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 1: and then award him the round. And by the way,

456
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Speaker 1: to be clear about it, it was all three judges. All

457
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: three judges agreed on all five rounds. They had one

458
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: two star, U can three five, three, three through five.

459
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: I should say for Gamrod it's like, dude, what the fuck?

460
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 2: What?

461
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Speaker 1: What? Here's the thing? Look, how confused we are. I

462
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: honestly don't think that the judges are less confused. I

463
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: honestly feel like we have gotten to a point where

464
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Speaker 1: they don't ex unless it's like super clear, right, super clear.

465
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: This is not super clear. This is actually really hard

466
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Speaker 1: to tell. And the way that they're judging it doesn't

467
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Speaker 1: give me any clarity about it. I guess that's what

468
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Speaker 1: I would say.

469
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Speaker 2: No, And you know, he asked me who I thought one,

470
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 2: and I said, you know, out of any other fight,

471
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not sure. And I kind of

472
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: like Gamrack, but you just kind of just you know,

473
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: in real time, was sort of like, well, let me

474
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 2: tell you this, and you're kind of right, Luke, So

475
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 2: you know, could either guy have won in this case? Yes?

476
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: Do I have trust in judging moving forward? No? I

477
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 2: feel like they're more confused than ever, and there's a

478
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Speaker 2: lot of other issues involved with scoring as well. Did

479
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: the right guy win? I mean he did. I felt

480
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 2: like Gamrock was more in control over the second half

481
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Speaker 2: of this fight, although that doesn't necessarily say if somebody

482
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Speaker 2: won because it's around by round ten nine scoring for

483
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Speaker 2: the most part. But you know, when he got his

484
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: hand raised, I didn't feel bad at least, Luke, I

485
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: feel like you could have gone Surrikin's way. Yeah, but

486
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 2: it was that good of a fight. What do you

487
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: think Habib was thinking watching this because he was ringside case,

488
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: I excuse me, because he was coaching his cousin Umar

489
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: and he was talking to him, and obviously he's coaching Mahachev,

490
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: who's you know, on the verge of a title shot here.

491
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Speaker 2: They know how good sary Rukian is. What do you

492
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Speaker 2: think when they look at what Gamrock did? Because Luke,

493
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: this was a next level burst out performance for him.

494
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: In fact, I can't even tell you how many people

495
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: DM me after Friday show going why'd you guys go

496
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: give thirty five minutes on breaking down that main event.

497
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Everyone knows Sarrukin is gonna roll through this guy. Yeah, no,

498
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Speaker 2: first of all, and number two, do you think they

499
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: look at him right now as a guy who matches

500
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Speaker 2: up very well with Mahajev.

501
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Speaker 1: There's not a doubt in my mind Habib was looking

502
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Speaker 1: at that fight thinking the winner was not gonna get

503
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: a title shot or something like that, but that they

504
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: know that either one or to borrow from you, either

505
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: one or both of those guys they're they're if you're

506
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Speaker 1: gonna come on, come on, and they're on their way. Gamrot.

507
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Speaker 1: You know, the big difference for MEBC is Gamrot's thirty

508
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: one sar Yukin's twenty five. And I tweeted that, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: sar Yukin, he's not even close to his prime, And

510
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: of course Twitter filled with dumbasses who don't understand sports

511
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: were writing to me who were saying things like, well,

512
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Speaker 1: primes can happen in different ages. Yes, thank you geniuses,

513
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: but it is quite obvious that this guy is very dude.

514
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Speaker 1: Here's the part about Saryukin. I don't think he lost

515
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: any stock in this fight. You can make a case

516
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Speaker 1: that he won. The other part was at twenty five.

517
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: What's clear to me is he's not even close to

518
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Speaker 1: his athletic peak and he's still quite clearly, quite clear.

519
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Speaker 1: And this is the point I'm trying to make in

520
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Speaker 1: the Gamrock is much more of a finished product. I'm

521
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: not saying he is a finished product, but he's much

522
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Speaker 1: further along and he's got six years of development on

523
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Speaker 1: saryuki In in terms of that position. Sar yuki In at

524
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Speaker 1: twenty five is not fully realized his athletic potential, and

525
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Speaker 1: I also don't think he's fully realized his development potential.

526
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Speaker 1: You can look at his striking from his early UFC fights,

527
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: which was not that long ago to now, and you

528
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: can see major leaps. What have we talked about with

529
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Speaker 1: Marvin Vttori. Everyone kind of bags on him because he's

530
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: he gets all agro all the time. He's actually a

531
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Speaker 1: pretty good fighter. He's gotten significantly better under the UFC.

532
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Now he's not even thirty years old. I don't believe so.

533
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Speaker 1: I really think that Gamrock showed what it means to

534
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: have a little bit of veteran experience to really take

535
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: hold of a fight. You can argue with whether he

536
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: wanted or lost, but to your point, he really tried

537
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: to take control of it. And I do completely agree

538
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Speaker 1: with that. To me, though, do you agree, BC? I

539
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: don't feel like there's a lot of stock loss and

540
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: so are you can given his relative youth and given

541
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Speaker 1: his relative underdevelopment as a full, fully realized fighter.

542
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Speaker 2: You know what I love best about him too, is

543
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: they interviewed him afterwards, Luke, and you know, and he

544
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: was doing his best to put his thoughts to English,

545
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: which is not his first language, but like it was

546
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: almost like, damn, you know, I try the best I could,

547
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: but but I gotta work on some things. And I

548
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: will work on some things. And look at the you know,

549
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: changes he's made since the mach Iv lost. Luke, he

550
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: is only going to get better from this. And damn,

551
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: we say this about a few different guys, but Luke,

552
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 2: this man's body is a wonderland. I'm not saying I'll

553
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: use my hands, John Mayer, but I am saying Luke that,

554
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: like he has maxed himself out physically, he is such

555
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: a damn thread if he can learn whatever subtle nuance

556
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: he needs when he finds someone who is his equal,

557
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: like he did with Machev and now he did with camera.

558
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah that's why I say, Luke, this trio who seemed

559
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: to be next in this division. And I do like

560
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 2: Ridell even though I get knocked out by a physive,

561
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: and I obviously like Phyziv's ubl upper about limits. But

562
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: I will say this, Luke, those three man, they dude,

563
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: they are coming. They are all three could win a title.

564
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: Who knows, you know it could be Imha Chef could

565
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: take over this division and be the next you know,

566
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: Hubbib for all we know. And let's not obviously you know,

567
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: no one's taking the bell from Charlie Olives yet, so

568
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: I obviously respect that. But my original point I think

569
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: stands true. Look, I love Pourier, I love Chandler, I

570
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: love Gaechie, who Gamra just called out, and I do

571
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on that type of matchup.

572
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: But those guys, while having pomp upon skill and being

573
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 2: very great all time fighters, if you're really being honest here, right,

574
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: you know, either all time in terms of action or

575
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: an accomplishment or both, you say there's still holes in

576
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: these guys games. So Rookie and Gamra, and you're right

577
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: when you find tooth comit, but they don't get handled, Luke.

578
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: That's the thing in the end, right, And so far

579
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: they're intangibles seem to be so strong across the board

580
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: that I think they're actually going to be waiting for

581
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: the veterans to make a mistake and capitalize on it.

582
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: You know, I just don't see where you're going to

583
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: dominate these guys or or you're going to, you know,

584
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: find that opening and the death star and shoot it

585
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: in the fight's over. I don't see that right now.

586
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: So let me come back to that Gamrock calling out Gaichi,

587
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: do you like it? And what does that look like?

588
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: I love it? I love it him for a couple

589
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: of reasons. One, Geichi is a much more devastating striker

590
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: than Gamroth. I mean, whatever stage of development and however

591
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: good they are, I think that's a pretty fair statement.

592
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: But Dude, Gamrock's wrestling is remarkable. He got down Kute

593
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: Tirlozzi a lot. Now Kute der Lodzi kind of nullified

594
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: it a little bit with Guard, but that's not just

595
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: in Geichie's game at all, right, I mean, I think

596
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: we can all pretty much agree there. And more to

597
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: the point, like dude, he is so dude, how about

598
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: this one this fight, and it leads to the Gamrock

599
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: Gaichi question, How about the energy expenditure in this fight?

600
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: I could not They were pushing a flyweight pace at

601
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five pounds. They don't have an

602
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: ounce of fat on them, and they constantly were grinding, grinding.

603
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how any of those guys at the

604
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: top are and sometimes closer to forty than they are thirty,

605
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: or at least the barreman them very close to in

606
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: past thirty five. I don't know how those guys when

607
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: when finally or they if you know, Gamraot moves up

608
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, if he gets the gates you fight, I

609
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna deal with that. I really

610
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: don't this. You know they always say, like as sports

611
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's a young man's game, dude. The next

612
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: generation of young men are on their way, and it

613
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: is they're not complete upgrades because they don't have some

614
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: of that sophistication, obviously a veteran experience that you guys

615
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: are the top four, top five have, but they're about

616
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: to get there, and I think by the time that

617
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna have all the pieces in place

618
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: to be considered at that point largely upgrades. It's it's funny, young, believable,

619
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: what's coming.

620
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: And when the young take on the new, the veterans advantage,

621
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: Luke is also is sometimes you know the five round

622
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: experience or or or you know a young guy aggressive,

623
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: he'll make a mistake. These guys don't make mistakes. And

624
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: to your point you just made about the stamina, like

625
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to put words anybody's mouth. I don't

626
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: want to discount legends because they're amazing, and Dustin Pourier

627
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: could go out there tomorrow if you got another title

628
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: shot and win it because he's that great. But if

629
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: he's sitting there watching on TV and the pace that

630
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: they put out there and endured and didn't slow down

631
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: for a second, do you want that? Do you want

632
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: to go twenty five minutes with that? Luke? I don't

633
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: think they do, you know what I'm saying. So let's

634
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: see what type of matchups both Sarruki and Gamrock can

635
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: get from here, whether both get an elevation into the

636
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: top ten in terms of matchmaking, and can we get

637
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: Mahauchev in a telefight Already Luke, please.

638
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was canting, Jesus can we it's a long

639
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: overdue at this point. All right, With that in mind,

640
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: let's go to point number two, BC. And I mean,

641
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: as close as the main event was, the co main

642
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: event wasn't close at all. Shofcott Rockmanov ran through Neil

643
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: Magni like a freight train. It wasn't competitive. I mean,

644
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: I guess you could say some of the leg entanglements

645
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: more maybe a little dicey at points, but not really.

646
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: He scores a second round guillotine choke Rockmanov does. BC,

647
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm about to ask you? One? What

648
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: did you make of the fight overall, in terms of

649
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: what Shofcout Rockmano was able to do, and more importantly,

650
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: now that he fought someone who we like. Again, we

651
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: both respect Neil Magnet, we both know where he's been,

652
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: we both know what he's done. Rockmanov made it look

653
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: like light work. Given that, how far can he go?

654
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: The top the top of the division, Luke, And to

655
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: be really fair here, fair here, excuse me, fear here

656
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: air hair bader fader the top of the sport, Luke,

657
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: and you know, will he get there? We'll find out,

658
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about not seeing holes and look,

659
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: I got a little I got some flak last week,

660
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: including from Shafcott's manager who told you, but we love

661
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: the guy. We met him, great guy, have met him.

662
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 2: You know the comment about him being efficient finisher, Well,

663
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: he's finished everyone he fought. I sort of meant, if

664
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: he's in a fight where he's down, or he's in

665
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: a fight where it's boring, will he go you know

666
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: after it? The same way Luke, This fight was so

667
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: one sided that it was boring for a while until

668
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: he finished him because he had so much control. It

669
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: looked like a grown man fighting a little boy. So

670
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: when he does that against lesser competition before this, you

671
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: have to somewhat temper your expectations in long terms, you know,

672
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: figuring out his ceiling. But when you do it against

673
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: someone so battle tested as Magne, who was coming in

674
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: on such a good streak and looked to be that

675
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: perfect Okay, is this guy for real? Let's find out.

676
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: And then you don't even let Magnie outside of those

677
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: leg entanglements you brought up have a second of control,

678
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: offense or hope. Like Luke, we are looking at a

679
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: potential future pomp for pound King. And I say that

680
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: so rarely because you should say that so rarely. We

681
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: are looking at the type of guy who has the demeanor, talent,

682
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: and although we don't know all of his intangibles yet

683
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: and won't until he find until he meets his equal

684
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: right or until he enters a real pit of despair

685
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: in a fight. So we're not gonna be able to

686
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: find that out until we find that out. But from

687
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: what we've seen now, he looks like he could become

688
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: the best fighter in the sport. And I'm not saying

689
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: he will or I think he will, Luke, but everything

690
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: you saw early this was the fight I think where

691
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: everyone else saw that because it needed an opponent of

692
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: this level, with this level of durability. Who doesn't you know,

693
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: even when he loses, Luke, does he get handled? Does

694
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: anyone go out there and piss on Neil Magni?

695
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: No?

696
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Okay, but he earnal cacked him here. You know what

697
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's a little, it's a little bits a little,

698
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: but you know that's no disrespect to Neil Magni. But

699
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, remember I told you about

700
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: that that Adult Men's Club in the middle of the

701
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Midwest one time where they were just pouring buckets of

702
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: ice in the urinal and it was great. You know,

703
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: he just melty, you know, I mean, he just pet

704
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: He just melted it. He just melted the ice, Luke,

705
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: And damn is he coming on it? Calls out wonder

706
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Boy afterwards in sort of a cheeky fun way, Luke,

707
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: I I'll say it better like this. I don't know.

708
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know when we're gonna find out when he

709
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: meets his equal, and I can't wait to find that out.

710
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: And I think we have to put him on the

711
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: level now of the love we have for Chamaya, who's

712
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: a little bit flashier, has gotten finishes quicker because he

713
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: goes after a little bit more. But yes, we have

714
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: two chest pieces here in the future of this welterweight

715
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: division that every time I see either of them, I

716
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: start to wonder how much more Kamara Usman is gonna

717
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: stay in this game, Luke. And that's not that tomorrow

718
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: couldn't be both, or wouldn't. He's the best fighter in

719
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: the sport right now, my pound for pound rakings. But again,

720
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: just like the conversation we had about lightweight, these guys

721
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: are coming on, and Luke, if I offered you four

722
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: names right now, Mahachev, gam Rock, Chamaiev, Sarukian, that's four

723
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: ub l baby, who at the moment is showing the

724
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: highest upper bound limits.

725
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you mentioned Rockmanov there, but I would

726
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: say Rockmanov?

727
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh who did I say? When I thought I said

728
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: Rock Moanov?

729
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Who did I just say? Oh?

730
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me remove sar Yuki for a second.

731
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Put rock Monov in there like I intended to. But

732
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: I've got you know, I wouldn't call it CT Luke

733
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: because I haven't taken a lot of head damage. But

734
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: have I shown those traits to you? That's that's that's

735
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: for you to decide off camera. You know, like you

736
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: know you you have fears about what I'm about to say.

737
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: Every time I opened my mouth. There's something going on

738
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: in here. I missed that. Put rockmanoff in that four?

739
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Who's you who at the moment has gives you the

740
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: biggest UBL phoner at the moment, I mean, where are

741
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: we at?

742
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: Luke.

743
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's like everyone loves rage monsters, right,

744
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: which is what Shamaiv is. He comes out he's screaming,

745
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: he's taking down the leech right next to Dana White,

746
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: and he's like, look what I'm about to do. They

747
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: love the Fearsome Wolves. I saw a movie recently. It

748
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: was well made, it was well shot, but it was

749
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: just torture porn and I didn't like it that much.

750
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: The Northman and everyone was like, yo, you gotta see

751
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: this movie. And I saw it. It's fine. It's again.

752
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: It's a beautifully well made movie, but it's one of

753
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: these guys who just attacks everyone based off of rage.

754
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: And I can see why people like that. There's this

755
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: sort of like attraction to battle through rage. But Schafka

756
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: Rockmanov is so different than that. He actually just lets

757
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: people do what they want and then uses it against them.

758
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Like he has this real thing where you know, the

759
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: front kick that Neil Magne was trying, he used that

760
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: to go into what he was trying to do and

761
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: everything else in there. He lets people try things, he

762
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: lets them press them up against the fence, he lets

763
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: him do these things, and then he just takes the

764
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: fight away from them. Thereafter versus some and he's quiet,

765
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't speak English. He's he's sort of

766
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: seemingly demure. He's like the guy at the library who

767
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: figures out in the Dewey decimal system where the book

768
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: you want on cooking is in the nineties or something,

769
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: whereas Chamayav just comes out there and just you know, aah.

770
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: He's like this Viking warrior that people seem to respond to.

771
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know that that he fights undisciplined. Now,

772
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: maybe if he fights more disciplined, I'll have to change that. Again,

773
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: we don't have complete information. I'm making this based on

774
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: your question within complete information, but Rockmanov is of all

775
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the guys that you mentioned to me, yeah, I'll say this,

776
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I think he's the most complete of them already. And

777
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: he's still in his late twenties as well. Think about that,

778
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: that dude isn't even close well, he's close to his prime,

779
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: but he's not even fully in it either. So that's

780
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: why for me, it's like everyone kind of get loves

781
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: the flashing lights and they love the bright lights. And

782
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Chamaiev is obviously beating Gilbert Burns. Even beating Gilbert Burns

783
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: fighting undisciplined is extremely impressive, but there are some questions

784
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: about that. Now there's questions about Rockmanov too. In fact,

785
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: I wonder about some of those leg Entanglements's talking to

786
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: a couple of buddies that train, they think that, like,

787
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, he was kind of playing with fire. There

788
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: was he playing with fire because he didn't know better?

789
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Was he playing with fire because he just didn't care

790
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: what Neil Magne was doing. He'd be curious to see

791
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: what a Gilbert Burns might do to him in those

792
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: particular situations, if there were leg entanglements in that way.

793
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: But short of that, dude, the most complete guy by

794
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: far of all of them that I have seen is Rockmanov.

795
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: He can do it in every different range. He is calm,

796
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: he is patient, and that doesn't scream the alarms or

797
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: sound the alarms by the way about like, oh my god,

798
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: pay attention to this guy. But when you actually watch

799
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: what he does, he is so mature, so patient, so effortless,

800
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: it is hard not to think that that guy's either

801
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: not going to fight for a title or more more

802
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: likely wear one at some point.

803
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the patient. That's why I sort of

804
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: asked that question as a final Devil's advocate about if

805
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: there's a hole in him. Sometimes he feels too patient

806
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: to me, although he tends to just wait for that

807
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: moment the mistake take capitalize. But at the same time, Luke,

808
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: you know who's at this point, who's gonna make him

809
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: have to be impatient? You know, I mean eventually they

810
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: will and we'll see. But the ease at which, dude,

811
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: the ease, the freaking ease. Now now to your point

812
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: about the you know, Okay got tangled up a bit.

813
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's even setting traps, Luke, who knows, right?

814
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: Who knows? At this point.

815
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: There's a couple times where I mean he do. Here's

816
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: the other part about rock Modoffs game that people are

817
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: sleeping on. He's got a few really unusual pieces to it.

818
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: I talked about the ground and pound at the waist,

819
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: where he doesn't employ formal tools of control to keep

820
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: someone down. This time he twisted it a little bit.

821
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Did you notice he went to neon belly a lot. Now,

822
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: sometimes it was like half neon belly. Sometimes it was

823
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: like half knee cut that didn't finish. There's obviously some

824
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: subtleties of that position, but he went to it a lot.

825
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: And here's the other one too. Have you noticed how

826
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: many times he stands over guys and they try to

827
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: upkick him, and that never lands. His ability to manage

828
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: that kick scenario. I don't know if anyone else in

829
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: the game has stuff like that. Well.

830
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: I saw comparisons on Twitter to Anderson Silva's standing ground attack.

831
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and review the tape. I

832
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: still think his is somewhat unique because, again going back

833
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: to the Magni fight, the kneon belly was a little

834
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: bit different there. But like for example, everyone's like, oh,

835
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the third round here, dude, he

836
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: gets those late round submissions all the time. He just

837
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: needs for you to adjust a little bit of whatever

838
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: position you're doing. And notice he keeps weight on you

839
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: so it slows whatever movement you can go to. If

840
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: it's against the fence, he knows what direction you're gonna turn,

841
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: and then he just waits for you to give just

842
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: enough of an opening and then he drives for it

843
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: and he gets it, and his finishing ability is absolutely

844
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: dramatic in that way. Chimai, here's the thing we're talking about.

845
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: We just had sar Yuk in versus Gamrad. Dude, here's

846
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: the one I'm looking for to who's better. I don't know.

847
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Jamiah fight Rockmanov. Chamaiah versus

848
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Rockmanov to me is like the welterweight takeover whatever else

849
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: you thought of welterweight. You talk about the guys at

850
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: the top being old, there's a lot of names that

851
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: welter weight now Ballamhammad has really pushed his way through,

852
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of guys at wiltterway that have

853
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: kind of been hanging around for a while. Dude, CHAMAIV

854
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and Rock monof are gonna run through all of them.

855
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Don't retire in front of him. Those guys are the

856
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: next gen for real.

857
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: You know they call what do they call Stephen tom

858
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: What did Earrol used to call Stephen Thompson? What's the

859
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: opposite of bmf Luke n nice? You know, and he is,

860
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: but he should he should take on some of that

861
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: that motherfucker and not sign a contract to fight schof Cut.

862
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see any I don't see any

863
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: plus in that at this moment, Luke, he is coming

864
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: the hell on where do you go next?

865
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: With him?

866
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: So he he you know, he he he cheekily tried

867
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: to put out the English of saying he wants wonder Boy,

868
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: do you do an early showdown? Is it like Sean

869
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Brady versus Schoff cut rockmanoff?

870
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Or do that's the other one too. We haven't even

871
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: talked about him because he can't get a fight right now,

872
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: or I don't know what the hell's going on and

873
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: he's trying to get the Muhammed fight it didn't really work.

874
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: Sean Brady is the third one. I think the three

875
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: horsemen of the welterweight apocalypse. I don't know who the

876
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: fourth one would be. Let me of the rankings here

877
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: real quick, if I maybe see I would like to

878
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: answer your question. Let's imagine a world where Wonder Boy

879
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: does not say yes, that they have to go a

880
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: different route.

881
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: Wonder please don't say yes. Please don't do we like

882
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: you too much?

883
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Please don't do So here's what you have. Obviously, you've

884
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: got Colby sitting at one, but who the fuck knows

885
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: was gonna happen with him, with the lawsuit and the

886
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: issue with Jorge in courts. I don't know Leon's gonna

887
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: fight Kamar. Okay, fair enough. Then you have Hams out

888
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: at three. I cannot wait to see that fight. You

889
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: got burn sitting at four. But Burns seems like he

890
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: wants that Masvidoal fight. He wants a big name fight.

891
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: I wants money, Luke. He wants money. He just just

892
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: gave it all against that killer. He wants money now.

893
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: Gilbert is more than entitled to it. By the way,

894
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Burns and Rockmanoff kind of teammates down there at Sanford MMA.

895
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Then you got Ballall at five, Luke at six, and

896
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: then wonder Boy at seven. After that it's Brady, excuse me,

897
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: it's Masvidoal, Brady and Magne. He just beat Magni, so

898
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be next to Brady, Masvidal, Thompson, Luke Mohammad,

899
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: I think any of those work now, Masve might end

900
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: up being with Burns. Will see. So what do you

901
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: think Ballaw, Luke A, Thompson or Brady. Which way do

902
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: you go?

903
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, Luk Thompson or Brady. I mean, look everything I

904
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: just said about loving Stephen Thompson, that might be the

905
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: next best matchup because of the name value of Thompson.

906
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You want to put Shofcott

907
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: in a main event against Stephen Thompson on a fight night,

908
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: Luke or a featured you know whatever, like that's it's

909
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: gonna matter. It's gonna be a great push to Shafcott.

910
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: If I'm the UFC, I probably go that way more

911
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: than I go. Let's put him against Brady and see

912
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: who's got it, right, Although I love those sort of

913
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: early unbeaten versus unbeaten, let's find out who's the boss.

914
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Luk coming off a loss. I don't know hate he

915
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: look really really, I don't hate any of those, but

916
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: I do kind of think matchmaking wise, feeding old to

917
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: young WonderBoy would be the next fight in succession, right.

918
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will tell you that the one that interests

919
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: me the most would be Brady and Rockmanoff, of course,

920
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: because I gotta tell you Brady's wrestling mixed with his

921
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: submission of that could be an interesting test for rock Monov.

922
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I do wonder about what some of these guys were

923
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: telling me over the weekend about, like Rockmano being real

924
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: open with how he was letting Neil Magni get into

925
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: some of those leg entanglements. And I know that for

926
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: the uninitiated it's hard to follow. Even I certainly might

927
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: of all my knowledge in the fight game, leglocks are

928
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: probably one of my worst ones. So I was really

929
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: leaning on some friends and they were telling me they

930
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: were like, dude, he wasn't like he was super close,

931
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: but like their point was, you get someone who is

932
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: really good at those underneath, and they could have been

933
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: a whole different scenario. Again, Yeah, could Rock monof fight

934
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: differently under those scenarios. But Brady's strongest. Shit, he can

935
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: wrestle his ass off, black belt jiu jitsu, he could

936
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: put it all together. He has got ground and pound

937
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: on the floor. I wonder about that. That's an interesting

938
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: matchup as well, you know.

939
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Luke. I want to also shut you up

940
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: for the diversification of your catchphrases. We know you for

941
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: things like upper bound limits if I may BC, you

942
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of them. You have really worked

943
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: hard to work ring the alarm in and every time

944
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: you do that, dude, I'm thinking foos schnickens, right, I'm

945
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: thinking shack in the background, you know, ringmey alarm without

946
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: a ton of time and whoa, hey.

947
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Did you have your family guy moment? Is this it

948
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: where you just have a non sequitur out of nowhere

949
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: making it all about you anyway?

950
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: Loop thank you, thank you, thank you.

951
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Are you done making it about you? Uh? Okay? Any

952
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: other thoughts on this fight? I don't know what's going

953
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: to happen. Oh what about Neil Magni. I guess he

954
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: stays in the top fifteen. It is a bit of

955
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: a I mean, here's the thing, BC, It's like, we

956
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: all respect Neil Magni for what he's done, and also

957
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: we should say it one more time, one more time.

958
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: This dude was begging for a Chemiah fight. This dude

959
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: was begging for a fight against a very tough guy.

960
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people I guarant fucking tea that

961
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: their manager was like, Hey, you want to take on

962
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: shotcut rock Monov and they're like, fuck no. Neil Magney

963
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: took that phone call. Dude, I am, I am. You

964
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: got to be appreciative of fighters that take on risk

965
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't work out to their benefit, but

966
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: you are. Your sport is better when you have volunteers

967
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: like that, no doubt about it.

968
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely shout out to Neil Magni. But you know, Luke,

969
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: sometimes you're the hammer and sometimes you're you know, the

970
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: you'ren okay.

971
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: Real quickly, Yeah, dude, here's who he's lost to, Rockmanov, Kisa, Ponds,

972
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Ponzinibbio Dosanos, Lorenz Demion, and then all the way back

973
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Seth Pazinski, Moriches. But dude, he's beaten a lot of

974
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: good guys. But here's who Neil Magni has beaten. Eric Silva,

975
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Kelvin Gastlam, Hector Lombard, Johnny Hendrix, Carlos Kondit, the Leech,

976
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Rocco, Martin, Robbie Lawler, Jeff Neil, Max Griffin, and

977
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: there's some other ones in there. At tim means he's beaten.

978
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Holy shit, man, and Rockmanov just walked through him. Shocking,

979
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: shocking to see that.

980
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: But look, if you are Sean Brady or Michael Kisa

981
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: and you have, you know, a strength on the ground,

982
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: do you look at that concern of the of the

983
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: leglock moment and go, okay, I got a path.

984
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: Now I am curious again. No one's style is perfect,

985
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: even if someone has mastered one complete style. Every style

986
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: has pluses, every style has negatives. Brady is an interesting

987
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: matchup for me. I think Brady is that's like Brady

988
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: could absolutely do some things to him in a couple

989
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: of those scenarios that could be really interesting. Now there's

990
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: a couple of risks that get involved with doing that.

991
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: Fighting underneath Rockmanov would not be an ideal scenario under

992
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: any circumstance. But dude, Brady is a fucking an animal,

993
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: an animal, and so I really that again, maybe you

994
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: don't make that fight next. That's not what I'm necessarily

995
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: advocating for. To your point, Old fighting New is how

996
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: the world kind of works in combat sports. But Brady

997
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: has some very unique skills all put together. That seems

998
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: like that could be a problem for rock Model, But

999
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: of course it turns it away. Rock monof could be

1000
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: a problem for Brady in the trum mine.

1001
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: And a big part of the old new thing is

1002
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: you do have to now market Rockmanov. Right, He's not

1003
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: a guy that right now is going to market himself, right,

1004
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: He's very reserved demeanor, still picking up English. So the

1005
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: way to do that is feed him to recognize names

1006
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: and casual fans go, oh, I love one. Let's see

1007
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: is he still fighting? Yeah?

1008
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. All right. Let's turn our

1009
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: table to the showtime side of things, at least well

1010
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: with Bellator. So how about this this one. B see,

1011
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this, but I'm a little bit

1012
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: surprised by this. Johnny Eblin defeats Geguard Musasi. How about this?

1013
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Fifty forty five on all three judges scorecards, and unlike

1014
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: our main event, there wasn't a hint of controversy about this.

1015
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: He beat him clearly. Now, BC, here's the funny part

1016
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: to me. You knew that I was kind of doubting

1017
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: Musasi before the Vanderford fight, and it was the wrestling,

1018
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: in particular, based off of the Levato fighting some other

1019
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: ones king mooh whatever where I kind of thought that

1020
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: would play a role. Now, I was too chicken shit

1021
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: to pick Eblin here. I did think he was going

1022
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: to be able to beat him in the wrestling, which

1023
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: was true, you saw that. But here's the real story

1024
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: of the fight. He beat him fucking everywhere everywhere. He

1025
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: beat him standing up, he beat him in the clinch,

1026
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: he beat him on the ground, he beat him wherever

1027
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: they decided to go. Is it finally time people RECOGNI

1028
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: how good Eblin is or is it maybe the story

1029
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: that Moose looked a little old dude.

1030
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: Moose has been wavy and it's messed with our order

1031
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: me the three piece with the side of crow, Luke,

1032
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna eat that right, damn right. But the

1033
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: question is why, So you know you got those glowing

1034
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: stats on Musaci twelve of his last thirteen victories. We

1035
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: talked about that four fight slide where he lost his

1036
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: title and looked human and I mean even look right

1037
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: against Macheetah Luca was a damn split decision. But then

1038
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: he's dominant suddenly, and he says he feels like he's

1039
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: the best he's ever been and he's the best in

1040
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: the world, and it's like resurgent gey guard. Let's give

1041
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: him his love, and by the way, he deserves our love.

1042
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: But this performance, Luke, he got his ass kicked.

1043
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: So now you.

1044
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: Look back at the signs that maybe we should have seen. Now,

1045
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: one of those signs is that Eblin is coming on

1046
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: and seems to have some plus elements to his game,

1047
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: which we acknowledged. I mean, look, our pick ultimately was

1048
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: that Musasi would win a decision in a close fight.

1049
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: That was your pick, that was my pick. Okay, So

1050
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: we didn't crap on Eblin. We didn't expect this to

1051
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: be Vanderford all over again. But Musase admitted that he

1052
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: had to cut twenty four pounds in twenty four hours

1053
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: before the weigh in, and when we interviewed him on HQ,

1054
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: he was just like, Yeah, it's not a big deal.

1055
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna smash everybody, and you and I both talked

1056
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: on air and off about how weird the lucy goosey

1057
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: nature of Musase in that interview was. Now, could it

1058
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: have been a moment of just having fun and talking shit, Yeah,

1059
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: but he doesn't do that normally. But he was almost

1060
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: discounting Eblin in the way of like, no, I'm gonna

1061
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: smash everybody. Bring it on, it's all you know, finishes

1062
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: from here. I don't know, Luke, you don't know. In

1063
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: the end, bad camp, bad cut, underestimating his opponent whatever

1064
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: it was, old and new, fought and knew was coming on,

1065
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: and Luke I did not expect Eblin's striking to have

1066
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: that impact. I don't think he's got technique even anywhere

1067
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: near Musase. But he figured out how to put in

1068
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: those looping, winging punches, how to do damage with them,

1069
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: and you know, to find out, he's got the great

1070
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: King mo Lawil of att in his corner who has

1071
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: mentioned did beat Musasi for the strike Force title years back,

1072
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: and although oh no, by the way, did knock out

1073
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: Yuri Prohotska and was brought in as a special advisor

1074
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: for Glover Tshera ahead of that most recent fight. Eblin

1075
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: figured out how to take his game and take it

1076
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: to another level, and Luke, all I can do is

1077
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: sit here and applaud him. I had said repeatedly, I

1078
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: love me some Eblin, but I don't see exactly what

1079
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: we saw on Amasov when he came over the top

1080
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: of the walterweight division and took it over. I now

1081
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: see that from Eblin because this was the breakthrough performance

1082
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: against a legend, and Luke, it wasn't even particularly close.

1083
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: So was it a flat Musas did he underestimate? I

1084
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: don't really know because of those weird signs we saw.

1085
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: Either way, they fed the old to the young and

1086
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: we have a new champion and a new era, you know,

1087
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: potentially not new era, but you can get what I'm saying.

1088
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Changing of the guard at middleweight for Belatur Eblin was fantastic.

1089
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: The gas tank, the wrestling. I mean, look, there were

1090
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: things of his game that I expected Musasi to neutralize,

1091
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: and he just did not meet that same level of

1092
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: a pushback that I thought he pushed right through it.

1093
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Let's give him his followers. Johnny Eblin, you got it, baby,

1094
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: You're the new champion.

1095
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing for me, It's like there

1096
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: was a clear difference in athleticism right in terms of

1097
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: speed explosion. Not saying Musasi is a bad athlete, but

1098
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: at thirty six, he's not the athlete that Evelin is.

1099
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: I think at thirty or so, there's just there was

1100
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: a big difference there. And I'm willing to believe that

1101
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: the weight cut did affect Musase. I'm also very much

1102
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: willing to believe that age is slowly taking a toll

1103
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: on him. That's true. But here's the thing as well.

1104
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: When his gas tank was the best, he's still lost.

1105
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he put it on Eblin early and

1106
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Evelin rally to a guy who just didn't have the

1107
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: energy to do it late like Gadelia and Johanna. That

1108
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: wasn't that the case at all. From the word go,

1109
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: he was beating his ass from the word go. He

1110
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: was setting traps from the word go. He was getting takedowns.

1111
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: So It's like, did Musasi look flat footed by rounds

1112
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: four and five? And he was just you can see

1113
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: the highlights here, just getting kind of teed off on

1114
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, for sure, And I do think that

1115
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: that played a role as the fight wore on. But

1116
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: when he was completely fresh, he still got his shit

1117
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: rocked and taken down. I think the reality is a

1118
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: lot of people just slept on Eblin, which I somewhat understand. Right,

1119
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't heavily promoted, he doesn't do a ton of interviews.

1120
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, what was his best

1121
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: win before this? It was John Salter? Okay, well what

1122
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: was the best win before that? Can anybody even name it?

1123
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: Like Daniel Madrid or whatever the guy's name is, That

1124
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: I forget, like even someone like me who's been paying

1125
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: attention to him a little bit longer. I don't know

1126
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: that any of those other wins even hold a candle

1127
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: or those other fighters hold a candle to who Musaci is.

1128
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: But the reality is, dude, I sit it on HQ.

1129
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: After the fight, You're not fighting a guy's resume, You're

1130
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: not fighting a guy's aura or legacy. You're only fighting

1131
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: who they stand. Who is across from you and Musac.

1132
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he took Eblin as seriously as he

1133
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: probably needed to. And maybe he is a little bit older,

1134
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: and maybe the weight cut wasn't there. He needs to

1135
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: fix those things because Eblin is talented as shit, and

1136
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: he put it on him from the beginning bell to

1137
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: the last one.

1138
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: And in the cut you could see it was the

1139
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: confidence was there to carry out that game plan. And Luke,

1140
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: some guys just raise their game when the opposition gets

1141
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: better and the platform gets better. It's the same thing

1142
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: that we use as a negative against certain guys and

1143
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: trying to anticipate what they'll do when they rise up. No,

1144
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: he didn't have the resume that would have showed you

1145
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: that this was necessarily possible. Although we both, again let's

1146
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: be fair, predicted he would have success taking Musasi Jan

1147
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: at times he would be in this fight. Oh he

1148
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: wasn't in this fight, Luke. He was this fight. So

1149
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: I'll happily eat Crow to see another major player on

1150
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: the world stage, and that's on beating Johnny Evlin right

1151
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: now with a great team, and Luke, if he can

1152
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: continue to add to the striking game, he's a he's

1153
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: a big boy, Luke. He's aggressive, he's got a motor,

1154
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: he goes after it. This was the full bloom of

1155
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: that and and I couldn't be happier to see it.

1156
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: And I don't think it. You know, it doesn't kill Musasi,

1157
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean he could still

1158
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: make some fun. You know the thing about Musasi moving forward? Luke,

1159
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: there's still something there?

1160
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: Right, well, let me pitch it to you real quick.

1161
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't you pitch and I'll catch go ahead?

1162
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: Is the rematch in order?

1163
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: No? Why I don't like to do a rematch after

1164
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: a one sided dismantling Luke. And this was borderline that.

1165
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: So even if you could make a case that like,

1166
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: all right, next time he'll not have a weightcut like this,

1167
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: next time he'll realize what he's in for. That that

1168
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: could yield different results in a very different fight. That's

1169
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: not compelling. I'm not arguing in favor of that. I'm

1170
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: just asking devil's advocate. That's not compelling to you.

1171
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to sell that in the moment, both

1172
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: the fighter and the organization and sort of put that

1173
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: narrative out there and trying to lean on it. I

1174
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: don't necessarily see people leaning on that, Luke, I don't

1175
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: think enough people talked about that weightcut little quote that

1176
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: came out beforehand, and I don't see a lot of

1177
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: people talking about it now. So no, I don't think

1178
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: you go in that direction right now.

1179
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: See here's why I'm gonna say, I'm under ninety nine

1180
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: percent of the time I agree with you on this

1181
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: particular like this kind of situation, like what do you

1182
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: do a rematch? I've always been the guy it's like, oh,

1183
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: is there immediate rematching? Like, yeah, it's fifty forty five

1184
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: on all three? What the fuck would be the case

1185
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: for it? Yeah? I mean here all what I would say, though,

1186
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: here's what I would say. The number one contender, as

1187
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: far as I can tell now now that Eblin is

1188
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: the champion, is anatolely Tokov, who just absolutely obliterated Muhammad abdulah.

1189
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I told you he's coming on. I told you about

1190
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 2: that guy.

1191
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: But here's the problem, dude, they buried him on the

1192
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: prelim card. Like if I had to ask the average fan, okay,

1193
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: who should Johnny Eblin fight next? Can they even name

1194
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: who the number one contender would be? I don't know

1195
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: that they could, and so for that reason, I'm not

1196
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: saying that like from a meritocratic standpoint, Musasi has a

1197
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: better case. No he does not. Tokov is the guy.

1198
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: End of story. But like if you put Eblin versus Tokov,

1199
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: you're not setting anyone up for any kind of grand

1200
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: arrival moment by virtual of the fact that Tokov was

1201
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of just on the prelims here on YouTube. It's

1202
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: a little strange.

1203
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they make decisions sometimes on a promotional

1204
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 2: level that we like or sometimes we don't like. Yeah,

1205
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: I agree with you in that regard. I don't know

1206
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: if they knew that he was coming on like I

1207
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: did Luke, but I caught that smell and I knew it.

1208
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: Tokov is on a great run right now. That would

1209
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: be an interesting matchup, by the way, But what I

1210
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: was trying to say about Musasi is thirty six. But

1211
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 2: let's not forget Luke. He can't fight in multiple divisions.

1212
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: I've said it that if I'm belator, I'm calling up

1213
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva. You know, of course I said that for

1214
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: Fador versus Anderson Silva. But I love me a Musace

1215
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Silva fight. I love me Musasi versus Fador. I think

1216
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: there's some fun fights you can make with a great

1217
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: legend like this, who's already made some of those cross

1218
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: divisional ones against Rory and against Lima. You know, I

1219
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: still think that there's there's there's definitely stuff left in

1220
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: the tank. But he got humbled the same way Bader

1221
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: did walking in there against a riser in Nemkov. And

1222
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: that's you know, the bel in Bellator, Luke the younger

1223
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: taken over at the moment.

1224
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: There's turnover now happening from the people who were dominating

1225
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: from the aughts and then the twenty tens.

1226
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Who are here and they're growing, right, they're largely homegrown

1227
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: in Belator. So this has to be a good sign.

1228
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: That's why I don't I wouldn't rush you back into

1229
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: a Musasi rim. This has to be a good sign

1230
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: for the promotion that no one really knew much about

1231
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Amazov before winning the title, or Nemkov or you know,

1232
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: some of these other guys coming on a j mcke's

1233
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: been there since day one.

1234
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Bellator has found, signed and developed really good fighters across

1235
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: all of their weight classes. My only issue, again going

1236
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: back to the TOKV thing, It's like, dude, Tokov is

1237
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: a real threat to beat Eblin, like a very real

1238
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: threat to beat Eblin. And I don't know if anyone's

1239
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: paid attention to what Tokov has done by virtue of

1240
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: some of his card placements. That's my only gripe that's

1241
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: been handled.

1242
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you on that.

1243
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: Look all right, So let's go to the other parts

1244
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: of the card that were somewhat slow but somewhat sensational

1245
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: as well. Let's start with the one that was slow.

1246
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Although Danny Sapatello, Jesus Christ, this guy, he's unbelievable. So

1247
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: he edges out Leandro Ego. This is topic number four

1248
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: with a unanimous decision. Now, his wrestling was decisive BC,

1249
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: but he struggled a little bit. He got his back

1250
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: taken in the second round and he lost it.

1251
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: Can I interrupt you before you finish your question. I

1252
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: don't like the word edging out. When you win four

1253
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: rounds to one on three score cards, is that edging it.

1254
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: Out, Luke? Yes, Because each of those rounds it wasn't

1255
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: dominant at all. I mean, he was able to use

1256
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: his wrestling for control and then enough to keep position.

1257
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: He didn't beat up Leandro Ego at all. Dude. All

1258
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: that stuff about I'm gonna torture him and none of that,

1259
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: none of that happened. So and again he got his

1260
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: back taking in the second round. And this is this

1261
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: is why I say EDGEBC is because we can talk

1262
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: about A and B skill sets now. In fairness to

1263
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: Danny Sabtelo, he's been in the sport with four or

1264
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: five years or something like. The fact that he's this

1265
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: good this quickly is incredible, but he obviously has a

1266
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: lot of development that needs to happen. So this is

1267
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: my question. Okay, no, no, no issue with the judging.

1268
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: He won this fight, but did he show you he

1269
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: could win the tournament called fight Raffee on Statts next

1270
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: ye for the interim title? How far can Sabatolo actually go?

1271
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: It's a great question. So ultimately what you're saying is

1272
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: did this humble a bit? The whole coming on thing?

1273
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: It did a bit. Obviously he's got got the swagger.

1274
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: He can fill a sound bite him standing across Raffia

1275
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: and Stoughts afterwards with the finger and the tre I mean,

1276
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: it was great. It was theater. Look, it was great.

1277
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: Theater does do I feel confident like he's the true

1278
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: dark horse of this tournament right now? No, I don't

1279
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: at the moment, because we had questions, of course about

1280
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: his plan B. You know, could he shrike if someone

1281
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: neutralized his ground game? We didn't necessarily get that answer here, Luke.

1282
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: In fact, his plan A was was, you know, at

1283
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: times neutralized. And I get what you're saying. I don't

1284
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: even though, like edging out, was this more survive in

1285
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: advance than it was shining or dominating. Yes, at the

1286
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: end of the day, it was he relied on his

1287
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: strengths to get the job done against a guy that

1288
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: maybe fought better than Sabatello thought he did. But no, Luke,

1289
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: I'm not here to dispare Sabatllo. I love everything about him,

1290
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: but I don't have that same fervor like he's gonna

1291
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: walk in there and just lean on that a side

1292
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: no matter who's against him. Because situationally, Luke, if he's

1293
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: got to fight the likes of Stotts, who he has

1294
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: next Maga mad Maga Metof or Apache Mix who has

1295
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: a fantastic ground game, Luke, I want to see it,

1296
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: not him against a striker who can overachieve on the ground.

1297
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: I want to see him against somebody with similar credentials

1298
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: on the ground as a you know, wrestler or grappler,

1299
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: submission expert, and see what happens if they not only

1300
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: take that away from him, but you know, they don't

1301
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: let him use it to his advantage to win rounds

1302
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: in the fashion that he did. What's it gonna look

1303
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: like when he has to strike? Yeah, I got questions, Luke.

1304
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: I hope he has the right answers. And it's not

1305
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily horrible from a marketing standpoint that we

1306
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: don't have answers to these that we have these questions,

1307
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: because that's sometimes you know, you want people betting against

1308
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: a guy like this only to have him come forward

1309
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: and prove you wrong. But yeah, Luke, it was a

1310
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: bit humbling, let's be fair.

1311
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: I am curious. I am really curious to see how

1312
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: the stats fight goes, the magamt if he gets that far,

1313
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: if maga Metov will talk about him in just a second,

1314
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: if he beats a mix and you know, we'll see

1315
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: how that all turns out. It's like the a skill

1316
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: that Sabotello has is so good, it's so fight ready.

1317
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: It's so I'm not gonna say complete, but it's it's

1318
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: just a handful for these guys to deal with. But

1319
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: the B skill set, the C skill set, it's not

1320
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: even close to being ready for primetime yet. What you

1321
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: can understanding again, it's not like he's been around for

1322
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: a long time. This is this is understandable that he

1323
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: is where he is. But I have to tell you,

1324
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's eventually gonna him Now. I don't

1325
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: know if it's going to cost him in this tournament.

1326
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know exactly how that's gonna work.

1327
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be the next fight

1328
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: or the one after. What are you making.

1329
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: Great content? Thank you? Keep going on listening.

1330
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: Beyond that, what mud water are you putting together there?

1331
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: You know, I was combining the left over ag one

1332
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: crumbs with the rest of my seltzer luke uh in

1333
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: this coffee cup. So it's just a concoction of fuel

1334
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: to get me.

1335
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: You're disgusting beyond words, But beyond that, thank you again.

1336
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I think that I think that there is a big

1337
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: question here about Sabotello's not not full upside, but tournament

1338
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: run well.

1339
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, of the three remaining guys,

1340
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: would you favor on a betting odds standpoint Sabatello against

1341
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: any of them? No, you can't, right now, you can't.

1342
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: You couldn't fast Mega Metoff. What about Mega Metoff, So

1343
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a second. But his defensive wrestling

1344
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: bit of an issue.

1345
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but his adaptability, Luke was on point. I mean, look,

1346
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: Maga Metov is a guy that, for as great as

1347
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: he looks in moments, is vulnerable in certain other areas.

1348
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: We saw that against Stats, we saw that in this fight.

1349
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: But no, Luke, I'm still on a betting level, I'm

1350
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: favoring in Maga Metalf. He's more complete at this moment.

1351
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: Okay, But Stoatts versus Sabbatlo, who you pick him?

1352
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: You have to pick Statts, dude, you have to. It's

1353
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: a better fighter up to this point. Doesn't mean Sabatelo

1354
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: can't win this tournament. Doesn't mean he's he You know,

1355
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: Sabatela could lose his next round and still exit the

1356
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: tournament having made himself right. He's young, he's coming on

1357
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: like you know, there's a lot of room for growth.

1358
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: He's only gonna get better from here on out. But

1359
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: right now, no, right now, Luke Statts is the favorite

1360
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: to win the tournament, or at least should be in

1361
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: my opinion. You can count me all you want, but

1362
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: you know who the new dark horse is to win it. Luke,

1363
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: meet the new dark horse, same as the old dark horse.

1364
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: It's Mago mad Maga Metov. So I'm here to tell

1365
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: you why you shouldn't be afraid from what you saw

1366
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: in this other quarterfinal bracket.

1367
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it very quickly. Mega Mad Mega

1368
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: madoff of course gets was it a guillotine choke finish

1369
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: over Enrique Barzola? He now advances hill fight PATCHI mix

1370
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: in the semis. Tell me how impressive it was?

1371
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, look, he's a little loose at times. Meaning was

1372
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 2: I surprise that Barzola was taking him down? Yes? But Luke,

1373
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: just like he showed in the second half of the

1374
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: stats loss, there's an adaptability factor with Magametov that you

1375
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: have to like. Even when he's in vulnerable spots, he

1376
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: gets out of it. He's got a decently well rounded game.

1377
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: No striking is not at the level of his ground game,

1378
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: but his striking will surprise you. From the spinning attacks,

1379
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: to the stiff jabs, to the use of kicks. Luke

1380
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: I love the way he stayed the course here, never

1381
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: panicked in situations where he wasn't in his best and

1382
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: then used those vulnerable spots to improve his position. Is

1383
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: ultimately what's set up that guillotine that got him the

1384
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: win here. Luke I thought he made strides in his

1385
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: striking in this fight. In fact, raffe on Statts, who

1386
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: had already beat Magametov, you could expect, giving Statts his

1387
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: trash talking nature that when they had him on the

1388
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: desk next to Amanda Gara and Josh Thompson, that he might,

1389
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: you know, shit on magabed No, he was like, that's

1390
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: a fantastic performance. His striking was on point, Luke, outside

1391
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: of the fact that, yes, he's known for his grappling

1392
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: and Statt's had moments against him and now you know Barzola,

1393
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: but like you said, coming in, Barzola's pretty damn underrated,

1394
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: and he showed the toughness here. He showed a lot

1395
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: that you have to like the adaptability of mago metof Luke, No,

1396
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: I was wrong in framing it the way I did

1397
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: the other on the Friday Show and saying, you know,

1398
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: if he wins this fight against Barzola, is he your

1399
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: new favorite? He's obviously not. Stotts already beat him. Stats

1400
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: is the interim champion. Statts is the tournament favorite at

1401
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: the moment, and obviously Patrick Mix can fight and he

1402
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: can certainly win this tournament. But the dark horse is

1403
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: Maga meto Off. Luke, I'm telling you right now, I'm

1404
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna tell you something that you're not gonna believe until

1405
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: you see it. Are you ready get time stamped me here? Luke,

1406
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: Margo med Maga Metof is your next Belator bantam weight champion.

1407
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1408
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: Why because Luke? He can adapt, He can come out

1409
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: of dangerous situations and take advantage of it. And in

1410
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: this bracket, look, do we have a bunch of well

1411
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: rounded oil killer machines. No, it's sort of a specialist bracket, right,

1412
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: who's the most well rounded fighter of the four remaining? Luke?

1413
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: Is it Stats?

1414
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: Stotts?

1415
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: But not outrageously? They had a fun, competitive fight. Could

1416
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: Magometev grow from that Stats loss and beat him in

1417
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: the championship? Should have happened, Luke? I say yes, I

1418
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 2: say it's in play. I say it's possible. I'm telling

1419
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: you right now, this guy's gonna win the tournament?

1420
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: Is it?

1421
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: Because he has the same exact hair and facial hair

1422
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: features that I had at nineteen and I don't and

1423
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting laid with it. I'm not sure he

1424
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: is right now either, Luke. No, it's not because of that,

1425
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: although it is ironic, don't you think. But still, Luke,

1426
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this guy's coming. There's something. There's something there,

1427
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: It's there.

1428
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I have a slightly different view of it. I mean,

1429
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives from this right because to

1430
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: your point, the striking was really good for Mega Metal,

1431
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: that's really I mean, yes, it was a guillotine choke

1432
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: that won it, but the striking actually was the difference.

1433
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Barzola turned out to be very difficult to take down,

1434
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: very difficult to hold down. He was an absolute monster

1435
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: like that, and plus he was taking down Mega Metal.

1436
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say at will, but surprisingly easy. How

1437
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: difficult we had assumed that to be. So I don't

1438
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: dock him for that because we actually saw a little

1439
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: bit of that in the Stots fight too. The part

1440
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: that gives me a little bit of pause was as

1441
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: good as the striking was, he didn't seem to believe

1442
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: in it at first, at least for a long time.

1443
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: It was clear to me, at least watching on TV,

1444
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're having success in the stand up,

1445
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: you're not having that much success on the floor. And

1446
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: he kept going back to the wrestling and kept going

1447
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: back to the wrestling. Now, eventually he wised up and

1448
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: he abandoned it, and then you know, he did what

1449
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: he did. He was putting on him with the strikes,

1450
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: but it was almost like he didn't even believe in It.

1451
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: Tells me that the comfort zone for him is very

1452
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: much the wrestling. It's very much the grappling, which is

1453
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: fine because again, how did he finish it? Guillotine choke

1454
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: from mount the whole nine yards. But I'm just trying

1455
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: to point out, like you're talking about he adapted. To me,

1456
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: it's almost the opposite. Yes, he sort of eventually moved

1457
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: his game that way as the fight wore on, but

1458
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: it was it was obvious for a while before he

1459
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: did that that he needed to make the striking the

1460
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: centerpiece of his game, and it was only when he

1461
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,959
Speaker 1: defensively wrestled got off the fence and did it later

1462
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: in the fight that that was clear, but the decision

1463
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: to do that was delayed. He could have made that

1464
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: much earlier in the fight. I even tweeted about it,

1465
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: like four or five minutes ahead of time, being like, dude,

1466
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: you're winning in the stand up. You're just obliging him

1467
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: by having these grappling exchanges. He only went to it

1468
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: much later than he had to. For me, it's like

1469
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: the read on that he made the right read, but

1470
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: he did not make the right read quickly. That was

1471
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: the problem for me. And so you're talking about being

1472
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: a dark horse. I certainly look at the tail of

1473
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: the tape like what can he do? He can do

1474
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: a lot, but the slowness to turn in the direction

1475
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: that he needed to gives me a little bit of pause.

1476
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: Not so much against Patty Mix, who was by the way,

1477
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: Actually it could because Patty Mix has this tremendous ability

1478
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: to find the back. So that's another issue. But assuming

1479
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: you to talk about well roundedness, Maga Medav's your guy, but dude,

1480
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: if he's making reads that slowly about the better parts

1481
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: of the game that are demonstrably having success, I don't

1482
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: know that I can call him the dark horse or

1483
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: the future champ. I'm not as high on that as you.

1484
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm more irrational than you. I'm irrational by nature, not

1485
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: because I hate you. But I did tell you that

1486
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Gon was gonna out wrestle you know the other uh

1487
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: did that and Gona was gonna out wrestle Gon. I

1488
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: did tell you in the MMA B in twenty eighteen

1489
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: that Tyrone Woodley was going to knock out Darren Till

1490
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: and You're like, yeah, I don't know what that gay.

1491
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: And I did tell you, Luke that, uh you know,

1492
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: he are the.

1493
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: Only ones you've ever gotten right because the rest of

1494
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: them not have been this way.

1495
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Uh Anyway, Luke, my point is this, I see something

1496
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 2: and we're you know, time will tell, Luke whether I'm

1497
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: just some casual idiot who shouldn't be in this chair

1498
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: next to you. But do you feel like you have

1499
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: of the final four left? I think we would both agree,

1500
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: and I'm putting words in your mouth that Stotts would

1501
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: be the betting favorite of the four. But whatever, who

1502
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: do you do you have a feel like you feel

1503
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: like you know who's gonna win this tournament right now?

1504
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: I think it's close, you know, it's all about matchups.

1505
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Like again, I think Maga Metov is certainly certainly much

1506
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: more well rounded than Patchy Mix. But Patchy Mix is

1507
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, uh, his his go to game of finding

1508
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: and holding the back. That could prove real bad for

1509
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: Mega Mattov. Like that is I'll mean, think about it,

1510
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying. Like he's slow to adjust

1511
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: to what he needs. Now He's probably gonna be very

1512
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: aware about the back skills of of of Patchy Mix.

1513
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, that could That's that's a little dicey.

1514
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: On the other side, the size difference between them to

1515
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: cut you off super quick. When they when they matched

1516
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: up after and did that face off and they were

1517
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: like goofy and hugging, the size difference was was a

1518
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: little alarming.

1519
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, Mix is a monster monster bantamweight. And on

1520
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: the other side, it's like, dude, again, who do I

1521
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: think is more well rounded? Stots or Sabatello Stots and

1522
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: my favorite Stots to win. But dude, Sabaatello's a game.

1523
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: It's not as it's not as complete his overall game

1524
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: as you want to, but his a skill set. It

1525
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: is decisive, it is good. Another thing too on like

1526
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: an ego. Again, ego's not the wrestler that Stats is.

1527
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: But dude, he was shooting from a mile away and

1528
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: still getting him. He's athletic as shit, he's quick. It's like,

1529
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: does the better fighter always win? Not necessarily, it's just

1530
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: a functional matchup. So I think you're gonna get I

1531
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: think you're likely to get a stats Mega madeoff final.

1532
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: But is it crazy to say you could get a

1533
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: Sabotello Mix final. It's not, dude, it's.

1534
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: Really I mean, dude, let's put some respect on PATCHI

1535
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Mix his name. You remember when you and I were

1536
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: at High Rollers Luke and he was warming up and

1537
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: getting ready for the main event, and he walked by

1538
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 2: and I was like, yo, Patchie, take this motherfucker out,

1539
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: and he was like he was, He's like security, can

1540
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: you remove this?

1541
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1542
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: But they were handed down gimmicks left and right. It

1543
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: was great Luke what he did against Horror Gucci. We

1544
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: did not pre did not see him.

1545
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention to your question.

1546
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say to put some respect on his name.

1547
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: Not only is a great fighter, but Luke he seemed

1548
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: to raise his game against Horror Gucci in a major way.

1549
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: Let's be fair, he's coming in with some momentum at the.

1550
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: Moment he did, and he again, I think he knew

1551
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: that that was going to be the way he had

1552
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: to win, and he went to it and held the

1553
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: back control for you know, basically five fing rounds. He's

1554
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: a handful. He's a handful. And again if Mega Metal's

1555
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: not careful, he's like, oh, if I'm gonna go back

1556
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: to my comfort zone, It's like, dude, that may not

1557
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: be the game plan against this dude, that really might

1558
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: not be. So it's it's there are favorites, there are

1559
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: tears in this tournament, very very true, but it's winnable

1560
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of different directions. It's gonna be one

1561
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: to pay attention to.

1562
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: Dude, I gotta be really excited about this tournament, the

1563
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: fact that you know, naturally we're gonna put the winner

1564
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: who will be the interim champion against the real champion

1565
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: who's hurt. Sergio Pettis, Gooch still linger in. Some people

1566
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: have already made their names from their spot in this tournament, Like,

1567
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: well done, Belatore, Let's keep let's keep the momentum.

1568
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: Going all right. Last, but not least PFL was on

1569
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: Friday night, and this was the night of upsets, the

1570
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: night surprises, the night of a lot of different things.

1571
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. BC. How about Stevie Ray

1572
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: submitting Anthony Pettis with something of a rib compression. I

1573
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: thought at first it might have been like a modified

1574
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: twister or some kind of spine crank. It wasn't. It

1575
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: was a rib compression. In fact, as soon as they

1576
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: let go, you can see Pettis go to grab his

1577
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: and it's the same probably the same spot in the

1578
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: same injury, same place where he had the issue with

1579
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: Dustin Quarrier. If I'm a similar circumstance. It's kind funny, right.

1580
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: He's very good about spinning from have someone having his

1581
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: back to top, and I think Stevie Ray slowed down and

1582
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: anticipated it cranked his ribs And that was all she wrote.

1583
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: Are you surprised by this? Like, what's your takeaway from

1584
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: how this fight went?

1585
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not surprised in the end, because who

1586
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: has pett has been since losing the UFC lightweight title.

1587
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: He's been a guy who has a remarkable I'll win one.

1588
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: I lose one. Ron. I mean, look, he had done

1589
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: that in like nine straight fights, win one, lose one.

1590
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: What does that mean. It means he's still capable of

1591
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: rallying back against Stephen Thompson to get a big win

1592
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: against a name. He's still capable of what he did

1593
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: in the first round of this tournament, which is get

1594
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: back into great shape and get focused all again. But Luke,

1595
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: who Anthony Pettis is at this point, is a guy

1596
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: with big lapses in big holes, and Stevie Ray stood

1597
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: his ground. I liked the striking for the round and

1598
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: a half that we saw. It was largely on even turn.

1599
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: But Ray's tough. You know, he's got an experience, He's

1600
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 2: been around, he's experienced guy. It was surprising to see

1601
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: him put him in what they call the modified body lock,

1602
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, if he reaggravated the old injury,

1603
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: you get why he tapped. But it wasn't surprising in

1604
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: the end to see this result Luke. It just factored

1605
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: into a trio of big upsets on that main card

1606
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: that was one after another that was like, damn, this

1607
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: one wasn't big in terms of odds, but obviously with

1608
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: the momentum Petis had. I think we kind of thought

1609
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: he could put this together. What's interesting, Luke, is that

1610
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: they both advanced to the playoffs, and we'll be fighting

1611
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 2: each other again in the first round of the playoffs,

1612
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: so Pettis will get that chance to capitalize on having

1613
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: fought Rey at you know, pretty even striking terms, and

1614
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: we'll see who gets the nod. But I wanted to

1615
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: use this fight, Luke, to ask you about the scoring

1616
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: system as it pertains to who makes the playoffs, because

1617
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of controvert not controversy, but talk online.

1618
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: So we know that PFL has the unique system that

1619
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: no one else has. Regular season playoffs, championship on pay

1620
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: per view, and it's cool, right, but look, you only

1621
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: get two regular season bouts. That doesn't necessarily always give

1622
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: you enough information to know who should have made the playoffs.

1623
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: Some people saying maybe we should do three regular season Yeah.

1624
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: And the scoring, that's such a damaging way to go

1625
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: through a season.

1626
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's rough. But the scoring of how you

1627
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: get points is interesting. So you get three points for

1628
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: a win, but there's obviously tiered toward getting stoppages and

1629
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: if you get a stoppage in a first round, you

1630
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: get three bonus points. You get in the second round,

1631
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: you get two. If you get in the third round,

1632
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: you get one. So the whole point is you can

1633
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 2: get six points for getting a first round finish against

1634
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: a lesser opponent in the first round. So, Luke, you

1635
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: know you get the same amount of points if you

1636
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: go one and one in this tournament, but your win

1637
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: as an early stoppage and somebody else goes two to

1638
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: zero and gets two decision wins, you know you can

1639
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,480
Speaker 2: you can pass them as a tiebreaker and make the playoffs.

1640
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: So do you think that now that we're a couple

1641
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: of seasons into this format, that tweaking would be a

1642
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: good move moving forward? Or are you okay where we're we're

1643
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: at right here?

1644
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the better alternative would be, honestly,

1645
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna do the system that PFL has,

1646
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: this seems like, I mean, dude, asking for a third

1647
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: fight in the regular season, what problem does that solve?

1648
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: It solves the problem of well, maybe two fights isn't

1649
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: enough for this points system to get a more accurate

1650
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: assessment of who should move on and why. Okay, fine,

1651
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: but dude, that is a brutal, brutal way. These are

1652
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: human beings. There's only so much damage they can take,

1653
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: There's only so much time in a year that they have,

1654
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: There's only so much the body can do. Asking them

1655
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: to fight another bout, but before that, it just seems

1656
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: to me almost cruel. And I know what you could say, Oh,

1657
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: that could win in thirty seconds, right, but the accumulation

1658
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: over time would be extraordinary, especially if you have a

1659
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: blood and guts one there. No, I don't really agree

1660
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: with that. And in fact, here's really the takeaway that

1661
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: I have from this fight. I don't say this is

1662
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: some kind of insult or that I expect anyone to

1663
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: listen to me. I don't know that. Anthony Pettish, I'm

1664
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned about his health. Dude. He's taken

1665
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of fucking I mean a lot. And you

1666
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: go back to watch the art. You talk about the

1667
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: RDA fight as a turning point, and he had some

1668
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: wins after the RDA fight. Obviously, dude, he has taken

1669
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: a metric ton of abuse. It has been alarming to me,

1670
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: not just with punches and whatnot, but now with this

1671
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: ribishue and everything, else. He has been slammed and choked

1672
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: and pushed and kicked, and God only knows what has

1673
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: happened in training. I really believe that damage has taken

1674
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: an extraordinary toll on his grin. Yes, the game has

1675
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: moved on and he's gotten older and blah blah blah,

1676
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: all those things are true. But dude, I'm a little

1677
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: bit worried about him, to be honest with you, And

1678
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna have this rematch with stevieraay and

1679
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: it might go differently. It's not even I'm not making

1680
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: the argument that he can't win fights. What I'm saying

1681
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: is part of the way I try to evaluate fighters

1682
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: as they as they age is how much abuse have

1683
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: they taken? Not where are they not? What can they do?

1684
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: Which I'm not saying are irrelevant questions, But to me,

1685
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: the most relevant question is how much damage have you

1686
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: actually absorbed? Brain damage and everything else on end. Dude,

1687
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: he's taken a lot. He's taken a lot for me,

1688
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: and I honestly worry about his health.

1689
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. He'd been in the game a

1690
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: long time across what three major organizations, and to be fair, Luke,

1691
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: he really has never been the same fighter since the

1692
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: loss to RDA.

1693
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, by itself, dude, by itself, that fight was a

1694
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: career altering beating. Now think about all the damage that's

1695
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: happened after that, all the tough guys he's fought after that,

1696
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: and then add in all the training and everything else. Man,

1697
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: it's an alarming, alarming amount of damage. And if you

1698
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: really care about what these guys are, and he's trying

1699
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: to get that million here's what he wants. He wants

1700
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: to win that season and I bet retire right, get

1701
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: that million dollar paycheck, and then right off into his

1702
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: promotion stuff, which honestly, I kind of hope happens so

1703
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: we can see this guy finally put his career to rest,

1704
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: because dude, he is taking really, really troubling amounts of

1705
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: damage and it makes me uncomfortable watching him fight. To

1706
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: be honest, and I say this as someone not who

1707
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: hates Anthony Pettis, as someone who has great reverence for

1708
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: his career and is genuinely worried about him.

1709
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Luke. So as we look at

1710
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: the lightweight division entering the playoffs, defending champion househ Manfio

1711
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: is out Natan schul Out, Clay Collar, Jeremy Stevens marching held,

1712
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: Miles Price down, Madge out. Pettis number one seed, Luke

1713
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: from that one first round finish win. Just by losing this,

1714
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: He'll take on Stevie Ray, the number four, and then

1715
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: I'll Olivier Obon Mercier against Alex Martinez on the other side.

1716
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: So Pettis still has a chance to write the wrong

1717
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: depending on the recovery from injury, obviously, but uh well,

1718
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. But Luke, this heavyweight bracket

1719
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: have two upsots in one night, Big ones, Big ones. Dude,

1720
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: about a betting standpoint from a betting odds standpoint, I lost.

1721
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: I lost some fan duel cash on this mofo.

1722
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: Here, Okay, all right, Matella Sheffield Scheffel, who I just

1723
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 1: completely wrote off. I mean, blew up in my face

1724
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: like a grenade. He beat Bruno Capaloza via unanimous. I

1725
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I was very surprised by this, But

1726
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: then I watched the fight. Dude wasn't all that close.

1727
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: He just backed him up basically for long stretches of

1728
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: this fight, and Bruno was kind of fighting on the

1729
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: back foot.

1730
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: Dude, everything changed at the end of this first round.

1731
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: I think Bruno, who rightfully was cock sure and he

1732
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: had been on an incredible run, winning the championship last

1733
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: year and getting our attention, and look, his debut in

1734
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: this season was strong as well. But dude, when he

1735
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: got hurt late in round one, and the reason why

1736
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: his opponent went for the finish so aggressively was what's

1737
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: his name, Chef Scheffler, Adam Schefter, Lucas Sheffle, Sheffle. Respect

1738
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: to Sheffle, by the way, Sorry about butchering that Sheffle

1739
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: needed a first round finish to make the playoffs. And

1740
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: that's again with the problem of only having two fights.

1741
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 2: While I fully understand the grind, the potential for injury

1742
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: and the damage of having a three fight regular season,

1743
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: having only two mix these wonky scenarios in which Scheffle

1744
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: lost his first fight but then upsets the defending champion

1745
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: yet still can't make the playoffs. It's tough, Luke, he

1746
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: didn't get that first round finish. But I think you'll

1747
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: agree with me. I know we're not supposed to talk

1748
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: about Buno in this family. Popolos was never the same

1749
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: Luke after the end of that first round. I don't

1750
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 2: know if it's just someone stood up to him and

1751
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: kind of bodied him and hurt him a little bit,

1752
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 2: but he wasn't able to make those adjustments.

1753
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: Luke.

1754
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: His run to making himself a name in PFL, it

1755
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: wasn't without meeting opposition. I mean, he fought into some

1756
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 2: wars and came out in the other end, but he

1757
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 2: lost something in that first round that he never regained

1758
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: in round two and three. It was kind of a

1759
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: boring end for Sheffer who got the big upset win,

1760
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: kind of got his name on this show and announced him.

1761
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: How disappointed should we be with Capoloza who still ends

1762
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: up advancing to the playoffs as the number four seed

1763
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: because Sheffel was unable to finish him in the first round.

1764
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: How much does he lose the luster of us going damn,

1765
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: this guy's pretty damn good.

1766
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: Uh, definitely a little bit. Definitely a lot. Actually, Now

1767
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: to your point, we'll talk about the rest of this.

1768
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: He's there. I'll say this one win, one loss heading

1769
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: into this he currently sits four out of the top

1770
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: four to go into the playoffs. You know, maybe it

1771
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: was an off night. Who knows, it's not like you

1772
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: can totally write off his career to this point, which

1773
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: I know is not what you're suggesting as much, but.

1774
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: It was because he was lifeless, right, lifeless, yes, the right.

1775
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: It was so underwhelming that you're like, wow, what happened here?

1776
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows, dude, he could have got rocked

1777
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: in that first round and never fully recovered. Obviously that

1778
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: happens in fights, Luke, it could have been a little

1779
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: bit of that, But dude, he was a monster betting

1780
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: favorite in this one, there's no question.

1781
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: But the bigger one too, to me was Clinson Obray

1782
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: you defeating hen In Fajeda thirty twenty seven, dude, And

1783
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: I was I couldn't watch the whole thing. Obviously I

1784
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: ConA looked at this morning, but I remember when I

1785
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: was watching it on a Friday night, I was going

1786
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: back and forth every time I looked at it. Hen

1787
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: And Fajeda was on his back or you know, a

1788
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: Bray was just kind of putting it on him. Dude,

1789
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: he just won all three of these like it was nothing.

1790
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: Fahita is a plus athlete. He's kind of amazing in

1791
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: that regard. But talk about writing a blueprint on how

1792
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: to beat him. I really wonder what's going to happen

1793
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: for him going forward in this tournament.

1794
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: He got solved, and like I said, Luke, when we

1795
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 2: previewed this card, I said, look, I don't know how

1796
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: good this guy is, but those highlight reel wins, the athleticism,

1797
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: he can do, these crazy backflips. He's nearly six foot eight.

1798
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: You had to take notice of him, dude. Every round

1799
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: of the state was the same. Here, I'll bray you

1800
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: from the south past stance, got underneath the big strikes

1801
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: to Fajda, stunned him with a left cross and then

1802
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: took him down. Luke not only with ease, but his

1803
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: ability to put his knees down on Fajda's arms and

1804
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 2: just rained down, ground and pound dude. Once he took

1805
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: him down each round, that was the end of each round.

1806
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: That was like, you know, three straight minutes of ground

1807
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: control each time. It was a strong performance. But I think,

1808
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: obviously the bigger story because correct me if I'm run,

1809
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: I think Fejeda was the biggest betting favorite coming in. Luke.

1810
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: He ruined a bunch of my intention of potential parlays. Luke,

1811
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: he goes down, he still makes the playoffs as the

1812
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: number three seeds, so the fact that both him and

1813
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,480
Speaker 2: Capellosa will have a chance to redeem themselves are interesting,

1814
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 2: as is the fact that the two guys who pulled

1815
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: the upset won't make the playoffs, but both of those

1816
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: entered the playoffs now with questionable futures and brands. Because

1817
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: we got Dennis Goutzov who won as well on this night.

1818
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: He's two and oh. This season, he'll be the number

1819
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: one seed. He'll take on Capaloza, and then Ante de

1820
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: Leijia also was two and oh, he'll be the number

1821
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: two seed and we'll take on Fajeda. But Luke, it

1822
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: doesn't mean f Hada can't bounce back, but he's going

1823
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: to have to show us some of those intangibles and

1824
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: bounce back and clean up his his faults pretty quickly,

1825
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: because dude, he wasn't just upset, he was demolished in

1826
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: this fight. I mean he got absolutely handled.

1827
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to say I say people's

1828
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: names correctly all the time, because I definitely don't. I

1829
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: walk over land minds constantly. But I think you just

1830
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: said everyone's name wrong, like seven different ways. I just

1831
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: want to point that out. You know.

1832
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: Some of our viewers, though, Luke, feel that it's like,

1833
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: if we don't come from the native language, it may

1834
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: not be our job to try to like Disaigna a Desino,

1835
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: like dude, I don't have the same dialect and infliction,

1836
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 2: Luke to be able to do that.

1837
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: So listen, there's so many languages and there's so many names.

1838
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: It's not possible. But there's a couple of rules. One is,

1839
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, how would a native speaker say it? That's one.

1840
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: Two does the person have a particular preference around it? Right,

1841
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: That's sort of what you try to hold on to

1842
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. So you're all, look, I'm gonna keep

1843
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: saying names wrong, but you know it's Goltsov. It's it's

1844
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: the letter L, not the letter I.

1845
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: Just I think it's Goutsov, Luke. I think that's how

1846
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: I like this, That's how it feels. It feels better

1847
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 2: that way.

1848
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I probably have goiter from all the I did

1849
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: this weekend.

1850
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: Is that where your neck just enlarges, Luke.

1851
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few things going on there, all right, that's

1852
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: it for us on the top five. So that means

1853
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: we have to answer questions from the docks. We put

1854
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: up an Instagram post every Sunday. You all fill it

1855
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: up with questions. The producers pick them, and then we

1856
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: answer them. It's time for dms from dogs.

1857
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: All that good ship we've got mailer viewers.

1858
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: Thank you all right? From at triple A, ten, seventeen

1859
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck? How many top ten welterweights would

1860
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: you favor over Shotgun? Oh?

1861
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Wow, you know I love this game, Luke. Right, this

1862
01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite games we play on here.

1863
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: My other favorite game is when you go down the

1864
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: person's Wikipedia and read every fight that they've ever had,

1865
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: wins or losses. Luke, but let's play this game, can can?

1866
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: I tell you?

1867
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: Yus? I know, having a record and talking about it

1868
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: is so irrelevant. Why would I ever do something like that? Luke?

1869
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 2: Here we go, Okay, right now, Rockmanoff still at fifteen.

1870
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how he's not higher after that win,

1871
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: But here we go.

1872
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: They haven't. They haven't updated the rankings yet.

1873
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that I'm an asshole?

1874
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1875
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: Let me start with this number eleven, Michael.

1876
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: Kiyasa, probably Rockmanov, probably.

1877
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: Number nine, Sean Brady.

1878
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a I don't know.

1879
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't know don't protect our friend, Luke, be honest,

1880
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1881
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: I really, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

1882
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know right now, Sean Brady's like, you all

1883
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: send that drug rug back to New Jersey, Okay, Luke,

1884
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 2: number eight, Jorge Maswital, Yeah, Rockmanov, wonder Boy at seven, Yeah, Rockmanov,

1885
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: Luk at.

1886
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: Six probably probably Rockmanov.

1887
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: Balal Mohammad.

1888
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: See that's a that's a tough one too. What about you?

1889
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: I mean, there would be questions that we would need

1890
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 2: answering about Rock. But who would I favor at a

1891
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: betting standpoint right now? I mean, dude, it's again, it's

1892
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: the it's what we don't know, and in the eye

1893
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,440
Speaker 2: test in in yeah, right, chof cut right.

1894
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got Burns Chamaya of Edwards and Covington.

1895
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: I favor him over what the question was? How many?

1896
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: How many do you favor? Probably a solid five to six,

1897
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:23,839
Speaker 1: maybe more.

1898
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 2: Five to six, Luke, So okay, you'd have to favorite Usman.

1899
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: Would you favorite Colby Covington to beat Rock Monoff? From

1900
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: what we know right now.

1901
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: It's so tough, that's so tough.

1902
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: I don't like that fight for Colby.

1903
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: Luke at an't I I would favor him to beat Edwards.

1904
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: I'll say that, Okay, Tamaia, we don't. We don't know,

1905
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: do we know, We don't know.

1906
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: We have no idea.

1907
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns, we don't even know because you don't. Because

1908
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: there are those look I said, rock Monoff, looks like

1909
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: you could be a future prow for pound King. It's

1910
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: it's aggressive, it's it's hip, hyperbolic. But until we see

1911
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: those questions answered of when you're down in a fight,

1912
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: when when things aren't going your way, obviously, we won't

1913
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: know until we know Gilbert Burns is still in play

1914
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: to f anyone up, Luke on the elite level.

1915
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, Let's move along on this if

1916
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: we can.

1917
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: It's why are you always looking to get out of

1918
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: this show?

1919
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: See? Because dude, more is not more efficient? Is more?

1920
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: Next question at it's not cage fighting. How many more

1921
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,879
Speaker 1: times will Volkanovsky and Holloway face each other after this Saturday?

1922
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: I'll say at most once more BC.

1923
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the better question is what would need

1924
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: to happen to necessitate that a max victory of any kind?

1925
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 3: Luke?

1926
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, of any kind you'd probably see them again.

1927
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's that's not true question, isn't it.

1928
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, like if Max got a controversial decision,

1929
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 2: of course you're gonna see it again, right.

1930
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's let's ask this. What if Max needs

1931
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: him again shooting in for a takedown, puts his lights out?

1932
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Do you do a rematch? That's a hard question to answer.

1933
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: The reason why is because these are arguably the two

1934
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: best this division's ever had, arguably right like, they're coming

1935
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: on to show you that at this moment. Yeah, I

1936
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean there are scenarios where you wouldn't

1937
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: do it right away necessarily. What if Max wins of

1938
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: four rounds to one decision? I don't think you run

1939
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: it back right away. But okay, I say, what's the

1940
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: over under?

1941
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen the odds.

1942
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm them fighting on how many more?

1943
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: They fighting a fourth time?

1944
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: If the if it was one half, would you take

1945
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: the over.

1946
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: Of the under? I'll take the over, I'll take the over.

1947
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, here's the big question. What if

1948
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky wins again and it's actually like the most controversial

1949
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: of the three, But then you'd have three fucking wins

1950
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: in a like in or not like, not back to

1951
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: back in the sense that they fun each other that way,

1952
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: but like the wins total collectively, what do you do? Then?

1953
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's a comparison I can make, but it's a

1954
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: little different Patio Mark Marquez. The third one was the

1955
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: most controversial in terms of who people thought one because

1956
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: although Paki all rallied in that fight, Marquez was so

1957
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: good in the first half that people were like, damn,

1958
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: they screwed him again, and then we saw the fourth one.

1959
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: The difference is that first fight was a draw, and

1960
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: the differences every single fight was debatable as who's as

1961
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: to who won? Dude, if Volkanovsky wins a third time here, Luke,

1962
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: unless it's a outright robbery, no chance they fight again.

1963
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: No chance unless they both fight at like age thirty

1964
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 2: nine or something for fun. You know.

1965
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: I no like Tim Silvia and Andrealovsky in one. Yeah,

1966
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: they had a rematch there, all right? From Jack Barras,

1967
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure how this. How did

1968
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: Luke mismatch his predictions between Vanderford and Eblin. I'll tell

1969
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: you how. I had a feeling, so I pay. Okay,

1970
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: let's back up. Actually, even further than that, I got

1971
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: I was at serious extent at the time, and I

1972
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 1: had predicted that Levato was gonna beat Musac, and everyone

1973
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: fucking murdered me. On Friday. All the callers called in

1974
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: told me how stupid I was, and then they all

1975
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: had to call back on Monday and tell me how

1976
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: sorry they were. So from that and then the King

1977
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Mo fight, I've always kind of thought that, like, not

1978
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: in that Musase had bad grappling. He's won a lot

1979
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: of fights with it or whatever the case, Like, he's

1980
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: obviously very good, but you get someone who's like really

1981
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: dominant at it, and I tend to think that he

1982
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: fades a little bit. And Vanderford had really good wrestling,

1983
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: and I thought, huh, you know, he's kind of getting older.

1984
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens here. And then he just totally imploded,

1985
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, the only way I'm going

1986
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: to pick him is if someone has like a Levato

1987
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: esque game. And I thought that Evelyn would win in

1988
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: the wrestling, but I didn't know that the rest of

1989
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: it would follow. The thing that was really surprising here

1990
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: was as we talked about it, was like, dude, it

1991
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: wasn't just the wrestling. It wasn't like, oh, well, Moose,

1992
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: you know he just those other guys followed the Levato

1993
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: game plan. No, dude, it was everywhere and so oh yes,

1994
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: I turned into a chicken shit after the Vanderford thing

1995
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: fell through. But even I was surprised at that a

1996
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Dude, weren't you. I think we kind of

1997
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: been over this, but that was shocked?

1998
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I was. And are we gonna end up finding

1999
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: out that Vanderford was hurt in that fight? And that

2000
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: explains a lot in that, Luke? Did I hear a little?

2001
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Birdie had told me that Vanderford was pretty hurt going

2002
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: into that fight. But even then, do there's a big

2003
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: difference between Vanderford's overall game and Eblin's overall game. Wouldn't

2004
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: you agree with that?

2005
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I would definitely agree with that, Luke. Not to

2006
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: belabor your point of having a more efficient show, because

2007
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: I do respect you. There was a lot of other

2008
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: fights on Bellotore on UFC that I'm sure people want

2009
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 2: to know about. It. Is there an extra credit or not?

2010
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: Because of the how busy we are this week?

2011
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: There is an extra credit? It won't be out today

2012
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: because your canonear interview was going up at two thirty,

2013
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: but it would be up first thing Tuesday.

2014
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: Morning, because I do want to say that there was

2015
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: enough on that UFC card up and down worth talking.

2016
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 1: About, right, Yeah, I mean we could have done a

2017
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: whole show on it. We could have done a whole

2018
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: show honestly on the Belatar card because you had the

2019
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: alldrel loss, which was pretty bad, actually Cody law had

2020
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: was huge upset to James Gonzalez is actually a fair

2021
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: bit to go over all, Right from at fron Underscore

2022
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: six oh seven, this is more relevant for you bec

2023
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: how many homemade edibles of unknown dosage are you willing

2024
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: to eat in Vegas at brew house?

2025
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: Why would I do that, Luke? Why would I?

2026
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Do you know? Why would I?

2027
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Why would I do unknown? Luke?

2028
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't know how much of that

2029
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to have for a show, because you kind

2030
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: of have to remain, you know, with your feet under

2031
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: you a little bit.

2032
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: But I've definitely, really, really you've done every episode of

2033
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: MK with both feet under you, Luke.

2034
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: I could neither confirm nor deny the implication of this question,

2035
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I'm not going to drink until

2036
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Friday show. At Friday's show, I'm going to open up

2037
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: the floodgates and just booze like it's out of wow.

2038
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: Luke, I want to ask you this, So what if

2039
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Aaron from Spokane, Washington right home with Michael Kisa right,

2040
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: is that what he said to us? What if? What

2041
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: if he comes? He goes, Luke, I made you more

2042
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: Landjaeger because of how much you enjoyed it last time.

2043
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 2: And by the way, you did eat those in your

2044
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: hotel room, right the whole bag. Are won one of them.

2045
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I had about half the bag.

2046
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, well you're still here, so that there

2047
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 2: you go. Uh what if, he says Luke, Russian Roulette,

2048
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: Baby or Ukrainian Roulette?

2049
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Here we go.

2050
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: They're either made with semen or homemade edibles. But it's

2051
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty chance.

2052
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm not going to roll the dice on

2053
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: eating JAZ. I mean this is not you know, it's like, oh,

2054
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: I'll just go get the edibles that don't have like

2055
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: warning decent chance. You could be eating another man's semen.

2056
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that.

2057
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 2: So come as you are as you were.

2058
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: If there's at all like no one goes to Denny's.

2059
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like I'll have the uh, I'll have the moons

2060
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: over my hammy hostage is like, there's no, you don't

2061
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 1: have to You shouldn't have to worry about that. You know.

2062
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like like either the either you're into that or

2063
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: you're not into that, and listen, that's not for me.

2064
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, remember when Dice Clay was like you

2065
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: either s ad or you don't s ad? Luke, right,

2066
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

2067
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Like right, yeah, okay, great, all right, just got last

2068
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: last before we get fired, not least at Zach Bulden.

2069
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm mispronouncing his name too. Question for both

2070
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts, who do you guys truly

2071
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: believe has the lower T between Luke and BC? Dude,

2072
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: this is not a question. It is quite obviously me.

2073
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I haven't slept properly in fucking years. Are you shitting me? So? Also, dude,

2074
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm so beat up and I can't even think straight

2075
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,480
Speaker 1: half the time. My low T is out of control.

2076
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I did go to my doctor, as I've said many

2077
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 2: times in the show, a year plus ago and said look,

2078
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I think I have low t CA and can you

2079
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: turn me into twenty thirteen vitur? And he was like,

2080
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 2: let's get you tested. And Luke, he claims I had property,

2081
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: But I want to respect our viewers because multiple people

2082
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: came out afterwards and said, BC, I think he's wrong

2083
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: and I can help you improve your tea if you're

2084
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: willing to do webinar meetings with me. Like people have

2085
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 2: offered their services for my t Luke, maybe for my

2086
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: D too. We'll find out if I take him up

2087
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: on the offer. But I would love if the MK

2088
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: cameras could roll with both of us going on a

2089
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: run of of of human growth hormone or Yeah, I

2090
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: would love to.

2091
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's inevitable that I get on something.

2092
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting and like here's the truth. When I

2093
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: lost all the weight, and I've obviously got more to go,

2094
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: but like when I lost all the pandemic weight and

2095
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: then I was weight training again, I did feel a

2096
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: lot better, not just with health, but like, you know,

2097
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: more clarity of thought, you know that kind of thing.

2098
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say something you libido that kind of

2099
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: thing as well.

2100
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people thought that you guys came

2101
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: home from that top gun Maverick date and you know.

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01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Who crushed it.

2103
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2104
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I can neither confirm nor deny that that happened, but

2105
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: I will see this, dude, Are.

2106
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,919
Speaker 2: You goose or rooster in that scenario, Luke.

2107
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: Right, I'll just see. I'm not gonna get into that,

2108
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna say this, dude, my daughter has

2109
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: fucked up my sleep so bad. We put her to

2110
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: bed in her bed at night, in her room. But

2111
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I can't just lock the doors at night. I don't know,

2112
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: it just seems unsafe and bad. So she wakes up

2113
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: whenever the fuck She wakes up between twelve and two

2114
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: every night, just turns the dob like the Veloci raptor

2115
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: in Jurassic Park, and then just waltzes on into our beds.

2116
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Every time I wake up fucking three am, she's there

2117
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: kicking me. Dude. Every night it's karate combat on my

2118
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: face with my daughter. I cannot get a good night's

2119
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: sleep ever ever, So.

2120
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Colls outside, here's your raincoat. You know she's always worried

2121
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: about things like that, Luke. But if it's three am,

2122
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna be unhappy, Luke, because you're gonna be a

2123
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 2: grouch the next day. But Luke, I don't know what

2124
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: substances we will have in our body in Vegas, because

2125
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, just being in Vegas, you're you're bound to

2126
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: catch something. So we'll see what happens.

2127
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, all right, Well that is it for you

2128
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: and me blabbering at each other and taking the audience

2129
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: questions again. We'll do this live Friday the beer House.

2130
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: Come check us out if you're going to be in

2131
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. But right now, b Se, we got to

2132
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: pitch it over to you, pitching catch. It's time for

2133
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: your It's time for BC'SPEC.

2134
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 2: You know what I did this weekend, right, I scoured

2135
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: the globe for the good, the bad, the ugly, the

2136
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 2: highs and lows, the in between, in combat sports and beyond.

2137
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: And boy was it a busy combat sports, especially in

2138
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 2: the more shitty side realms. We call this. Have you

2139
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: seen this shit? Mmh oh god, oh god, yes, oh

2140
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: there it is Okay, UFC Fight night in Vegas at

2141
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: the Apex.

2142
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Here.

2143
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: What flavor is that vape? The people always want to

2144
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: know what flavor.

2145
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Luke, This is watermelon ice.

2146
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's tobacco.

2147
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,879
Speaker 1: It's nicotine. It's not tobacco.

2148
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you, Luke. Let's enjoy this grapple porn

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01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: provided by Matisoa, Gamro and armand Serukian. I believe this

2150
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 2: was round one, Luke. This was a joy to behold,

2151
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 2: as you mentioned earlier.

2152
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't even gone back in watched the scrambles yet,

2153
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: but it's just, dude, this was like unfathomable even when

2154
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: you had early stage wrestlers and like early UFC, this

2155
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: kind of shit is just it's it's it's what I mean, dude.

2156
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: This one guy's thirty one, one guy's twenty five. The

2157
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: future of MMA is so bright in terms of the

2158
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: quality of.

2159
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 2: Action, did the exchanges remind you of Rousey Tait one

2160
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: or is that just me.

2161
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: A little bit? In terms of like, you know, there

2162
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: were a couple of Granby roll scenarios and like flip

2163
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: or even kat Zanghano getting flipped over, Yeah, a little bit,

2164
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 1: there was some of that too. Yeah, great stuff.

2165
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going, UFC. Did you see

2166
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: this insane front kick from Umar Normaga made off Luke

2167
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 2: the Brother by the way of usman of bellator fame.

2168
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean this is push Oh my god, dude, woo

2169
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: think about I think about the flexibility you have to have,

2170
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: the ballots you have to have, and like the power.

2171
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Yes it's his back legs so in that sense, but

2172
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: like the accuracy, I mean everything about that kick. It

2173
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: looks amazing. But then when you think about what you

2174
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: have to have to try it at home, like don't

2175
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: break your drywall, but tried it at home, It's hard

2176
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: as shit to do.

2177
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Dude, he nearly landed like Ko versions of this earlier,

2178
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: and then finally hit that one.

2179
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Luke.

2180
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: His his win wasn't overly exciting, but dude, he dominated Nate.

2181
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Or Maness or however you say. You know, I'm miss

2182
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: browsing an English name too, but yeah, he kicked his ass.

2183
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: Look the MVP of the early prelims, of course, Vanessa Demopolis,

2184
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 2: after taking home a somewhat disputed split decision over gen

2185
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: U Frye, gave Bisping the treatment, but unlike Joe, he

2186
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: didn't cut the uh the undercarriage, Luke, to make sure

2187
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: she stays up.

2188
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: You know, well, the problem was she did it on

2189
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: the side where he's got the microphone what's he supposed

2190
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: to do, like come underneath the legs and put I

2191
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: mean that's a little weird, right, he's married. Man.

2192
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: Did you think she should have won Luke?

2193
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not. I thought I thought

2194
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Fry had won it.

2195
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 2: But I want to judge Buehler. Look, let's go to

2196
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 2: Belltour two eighty two from the mohegan Son Mandel Nallo

2197
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 2: is back. It was rat garbage time, a redemption victory.

2198
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 2: Ko won over Bryce Logan.

2199
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what would happened in the street fight.

2200
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying this guy's not a you know,

2201
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 1: he he's a professional mixed martial arts and deserves respect accordingly.

2202
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: But like it looked like that. It looked like a

2203
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: faster version of that London bouncer who fought Tyson and

2204
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: the dude rolled up and he just got he just

2205
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: got just look at look at look at Naalo. He

2206
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: just steps back, throws the right times. That dude just

2207
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: walks right into it, just like that splits his timing.

2208
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Look, you know, it was a ball of energy, punching

2209
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: power and marketability. It's Sabajol MASSI check out this saw this,

2210
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 2: I saw this may con Mendonca. Luke, they had fought

2211
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 2: back stage after the way and by the way, they

2212
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: had to be separated multiple times, and look.

2213
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 1: M oh and by the way, he had the same

2214
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 1: corner that I think Evelin had. So it was Thiago Alvis,

2215
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, Dustin Parier and King Mo. It's like, could

2216
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: you have I mean, it's like a Hall of Fame.

2217
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm not quite Hall of Fame, but fucking legendary corner

2218
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: that is.

2219
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna play some sound here. Here is rafaon stats

2220
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: using Danny Sebtello's insults right back at him when they

2221
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 2: had that face off with Danny flipping him off. Luke,

2222
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: he fucking suck was terrible.

2223
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 3: It was terrible.

2224
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 2: That ship was fucking terrible, Luke. If he can keep winning,

2225
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: he he feels like he's a star, Like every time

2226
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,520
Speaker 2: he's on the mic. Luke, he's incredible.

2227
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: But I gotta say your Scott's impression is pretty good.

2228
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

2229
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 2: That's not racist. Right for me to say that, I don't.

2230
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 1: Think it's racist. But we are two white guys telling

2231
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: each other we're not racist. So that's a call for racism,

2232
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: all right.

2233
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,799
Speaker 2: We mentioned King Mo was in the corner Johnny Eblin

2234
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: and had defeated one musas in the past. Here is

2235
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 2: King Ma hyping up Eblin after the win. I love this.

2236
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: He lost his voice again. We talked about it. He

2237
01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: defeated again, We talked about it.

2238
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 2: He defeated a couple of things here.

2239
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love King Mo, I love Damn.

2240
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 2: I love King Moo.

2241
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: I can count on my hand the number of guys

2242
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: who have sent me footage of their sparring to look at.

2243
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Not like he was like, oh, give me your opinion,

2244
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: because I don't know shit, but he was like, you know,

2245
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I'd asked him some questions and he had said that

2246
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: there was, you know, some scenarios he had had in

2247
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: sparring about it. And he actually sent me footage on

2248
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,679
Speaker 1: what'sapp to take a look at. MO did that, dude?

2249
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: And he's an encyclopedia of the fight game. Defans always

2250
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: kind of had a mixed response to him. But and

2251
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, the how about a guy who that staff

2252
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: just really devastated his career.

2253
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 2: D He's a he's a wealth of information memories. Like

2254
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 2: he's like when I he was my podcast co host

2255
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: on CBS Sports a few years back, dude, I had

2256
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 2: a blast. He is so much fun and to have

2257
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 2: him as your hype man that that'd be fantastic like that.

2258
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: But because his career didn't quite turn out. I mean,

2259
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: he did become a champion of Strike Force, so it's

2260
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: not like he was some failure, but I don't think

2261
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 1: he quite reached the heights he was capable of. In

2262
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: staff that may have played a huge role in that.

2263
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: I think he's channeling that energy into coaching. You see

2264
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: it there, He's gonna be a phenomenal coach.

2265
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 2: What do you make Eblin kind of having that, you know, admitted, Look,

2266
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't know if I believed in myself

2267
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 2: coming into this on that level, Like.

2268
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, everyone's like, oh, what does that mean? Dude?

2269
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: It means he's fucking human. All these guys like that.

2270
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: When you think about it, dude, when you tell yourself

2271
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: something about what you can do, sometimes you know, if

2272
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: you're not telling yourself the truth, like you're your internal

2273
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: clock on that and your internal radar, I should say,

2274
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: it's a better way to put it. There is something

2275
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: to that, but so you have to constantly reinforce it

2276
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: and constantly reinforce it, and sometimes you actually have to

2277
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: do something before you actually believe it. But when you

2278
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: say it to yourself, even through doubt, and then you

2279
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: carry it out, that that moment where things come together.

2280
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful, rare moment in life. And I think

2281
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: it's totally human and totally understand.

2282
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 2: I don't really that I love the humility. I absolutely

2283
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 2: love it. I mean, we try to think of these

2284
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: guys as superheroes, and they act the part in terms

2285
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 2: of the danger they take on, but they're just like

2286
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 2: one of us. Luke, a slob, like one of us.

2287
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 2: You know, I love it. Pfl from Atlanta.

2288
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Luke.

2289
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: Here was the highlights of the Stevie Ray upset submission. Luke,

2290
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 2: I know that there's a rib injury in play here

2291
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: that affected it. But have you ever seen someone tap

2292
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 2: to this in an elite fight like this?

2293
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: I have not, so watch him he just bends. At first,

2294
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was a spine crank, and there is

2295
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: there is a bending of the spine, but as someone

2296
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: had pointed out to me, a Joe from BJJ Fanatics,

2297
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't a twist. But if you notice the rib

2298
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: injury is on the side of the ribs that Pettis

2299
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: has facing the mat. So what you see Ray do

2300
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: there is just kind of crank into it, right watch

2301
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: him grab behind the head and then drive it down

2302
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean that's just that's brutal. That's

2303
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: super super brutal. The understiard ship.

2304
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 2: Oh so good, so good. Check out this finished by

2305
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 2: Ryo g Kudo against Alijandro Flores. Some good undercard ship here,

2306
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 2: Luke hold that damn get in their rest save the

2307
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: pow wow And Luke Bubba Jenkins who had to win

2308
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: on this main card. Did you see this running power slime?

2309
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: It looks like Davey boy Smith of the British Bulldogs.

2310
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Here, Luke, I don't know what that means.

2311
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 2: This is like Matt Hughes against against Frank Yeah Boom

2312
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about right there? All right, uh, Luke, we

2313
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 2: have a John Jones sighting out in the wild, the

2314
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 2: crochet expert himself, Maurice Green who lost to Dennis Boit Soft.

2315
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, yes, change letters in his name, that's what

2316
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: it would sound like.

2317
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Here's John running the corner between rounds.

2318
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 4: You know what the takedown he wants to do. That's

2319
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,759
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the same takedown that he that he wants.

2320
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 4: He had a good round on top, He's probably gonna

2321
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 4: want to try to get another takedown. So when you're

2322
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 4: in a quins, we gotta know that that's what he wants,

2323
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 4: what he work, work did or god jack, they check

2324
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: us out.

2325
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: Hit him with a sneaky age.

2326
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,480
Speaker 4: Well maybe a count, make it count?

2327
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: You all right, you're doing great.

2328
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: He's tired, moy tired. Right, Well, there we go, Luke.

2329
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I liked seeing this. We've all

2330
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: we talked about is bad from John with the bad headlines.

2331
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 2: When's he gonna fight all this? It was good to

2332
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 2: see him in this spot helping a teammout giving back.

2333
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,839
Speaker 2: Maybe he's got a future in coaching after his fight.

2334
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: Game, Luke, I don't care one way or the other.

2335
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 2: All right, shout out to UFC two fourteen.

2336
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I didn't forget about that. I didn't forget about the

2337
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: call that got released at his time in Vegas. Maybe

2338
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: other people have I didn't forget.

2339
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, Luke. All right,

2340
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who didn't forget about it. Luke Boo

2341
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:48,440
Speaker 2: boo wild thing all right, Luke, check out the intensity

2342
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: of this. Stare down Canelo and Triple G. We'll meet

2343
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 2: in September fourth, a third time at T Mobile.

2344
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: They had the first piece. Let me ask you a question.

2345
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch this. I'm sorry to cut you off,

2346
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: but let me just ask you. You know more about

2347
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: this than I do. I watched their fights. I gotta

2348
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 1: tell you. Canello looks decidedly more pissed off this time.

2349
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 2: True or oh, dudes, true, he's coming to fuck Triple G.

2350
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 2: Shit up, Luke, like he's done subsequent interviews after this

2351
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: in the last forty eight hours. Dude, he's in full

2352
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 2: English now, by the way, in the interviews, and he's

2353
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 2: just like, fuck that guy. He's washed, he's old. He

2354
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: wants one more payday. I'll give it to him. I'm

2355
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 2: gonna avenge the loss to Bevall. I'm gonna get back

2356
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: on track. So, Luke, this is either two scenarios here,

2357
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 2: maybe both In the end. One it could be bad

2358
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 2: news for Triple G. Although let's let's not forget Triple

2359
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 2: G has a legendary chin. And I showed you the

2360
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 2: highlights I texted you of from the first two fights

2361
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: of Canela just turn on that shit, by the way,

2362
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 2: and Triple G kept coming or two. It could lead

2363
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 2: this to be the most brutal of the three fights

2364
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: for as long as it lasts, because what else does

2365
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 2: Triple Gg do? He comes walking you down, throwing power shots.

2366
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 2: This could be interesting. But the reason why if anyone's wondering,

2367
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 2: why can I all hate this guy so much? Let's

2368
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 2: not forget Canelo popped for the uh you know, tainted

2369
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: beef clumbbuterol to delay their second fight, and dude, Triple

2370
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 2: G went on like a public tour saying, not only

2371
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 2: is this guy dirty, he's always been dirty. I saw

2372
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 2: the track marks on his chest during our fight, or

2373
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 2: his ribs or whatever where he injected himself, and Triple

2374
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 2: G kept making like, hey, the commission, they need to

2375
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 2: take notice. I saw the track marks. For whatever reason,

2376
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: Canelo took that shit as like I will never forgive

2377
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 2: you and iffing hate you. And I think that was

2378
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: the biggest reason why this fight third fight hasn't happened yet. Remember,

2379
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 2: his own basically built their model, you know, along the

2380
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 2: idea of these two fighting on his own, you know

2381
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, and not on regular pay per view,

2382
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: although this will be on his own pay per view now. Yeah,

2383
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 2: so you know, look, is there reason to believe it

2384
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: a younger, pomp pound king Canelo could stop this guy

2385
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: could do damage. Yes, But Luke, dude, we all saw

2386
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 2: Patio Morales or Patio Marcus four. This could also be

2387
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 2: a tremendous, explosive slugfest. I'm not gonna lie to you, Luke.

2388
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 2: I didn't want this third fight for so long. I

2389
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 2: don't know if it was the bev All loss that

2390
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 2: opened the door for me wanting it again. But seeing

2391
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 2: them hate each other this much, seeing these intense stare downs, Dude,

2392
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 2: this third fight could be something. It could be something, Luke,

2393
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 2: it really could.

2394
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was like, eh,

2395
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't really care about this, and Dude Canelo like

2396
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 1: people like, oh, he's just trying to promote the fight. Dude,

2397
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Canelo always promotes the fight. He always does the interviews,

2398
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 1: he does the media tours, he does all that stuff.

2399
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, he says, I'm gonna look for

2400
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: the knockout. But dude, if you have it all and

2401
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: we've been following Canelo pretty closely because I remember he

2402
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: fought on showtime against kaylob Plant, right, so we were there,

2403
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 1: we covered it. You've talked to him. I've talked to him.

2404
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: I have not seen this particular kind of energy in

2405
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: a long time, if ever, from him, it's quite clear

2406
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: he's more than annoyed by the guy. He really can't

2407
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: stand him.

2408
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 2: And let's not forget those first two fights among the

2409
01:46:56,560 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 2: best classic tight fights, like right, not full on brawls,

2410
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 2: but like action title fights between two pound for pound

2411
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame greats, like those were some amazing fights.

2412
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 2: Let's see what the third one offers, Luke, what kind

2413
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 2: of sauces forty eight year old Bob Sap on these days?

2414
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:15,560
Speaker 2: And where do we get some?

2415
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Damn? And he's like, really damn, he's like three hundred

2416
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: at his peak in prime. I want to say he

2417
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: was like three seventy five and had abs. Just give

2418
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: me all the horse steroids. I just don't even care

2419
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: at this one.

2420
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 2: I hope he's not still fighting in some form, is he?

2421
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: Luke? I think he did that whole long tour where

2422
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: he like used the last of his name to go

2423
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 1: and then just tap immediately after one punch, and then

2424
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: he had that interview with Earl that was a disaster. Yes,

2425
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since, so I don't know.

2426
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't have CT or anything.

2427
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: Luke.

2428
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: He's been through a lot of wars. But you know,

2429
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 2: let's let's be fair about one thing. Whether you loved

2430
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 2: him or hate him, he made fun fights, those early

2431
01:47:58,320 --> 01:47:59,759
Speaker 2: K one fights, Like, dude.

2432
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm the promised fight with Tyson.

2433
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it never happened.

2434
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But if you've never see if you for

2435
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 1: the audience who might be new to Bob Sap, if

2436
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: you've never seen it, and he loses in this fight,

2437
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: go watch Bob Sap versus Nogara from Pride. That is

2438
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: one of the most brutal fights. And you want to

2439
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: see a comeback that is just fucking epic. Go watch

2440
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Nogara fight this guy insane.

2441
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 2: Damn right. BKFC from Hollywood, Florida, Luke, I think Danny

2442
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 2: Sigurar Buddy was on the scene. Luis Palomino becoming a

2443
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 2: two division BKFC champion at age forty one, Luke, your thoughts.

2444
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for Palomino. A lot of MMA opportunities

2445
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: were denied him by virtue of some legal circumstances that

2446
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: are now resolved. I think, uh, and he's always been

2447
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean again, you go back and watch the Palomino

2448
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 1: justin Gagee War. He's such a fun fighter, He's such

2449
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 1: a great talent, and you know, I would have preferred

2450
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: to see him do things in the UFC, But I

2451
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 1: guess he's getting bank and now he's a champ champ

2452
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 1: in BKFC. Good for Luis Palomino, very very good fighter

2453
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:04,719
Speaker 1: who never got his due.

2454
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: I like saying, Hector Lombard there too. He kind of

2455
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 2: fits that mold pretty well as well, Luke, You know whatever.

2456
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: All right?

2457
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 2: Despite a severe height disadvantage, Luke, Jimmy Rivera came out

2458
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 2: on the winning end of his BKFC debut. Any thoughts

2459
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 2: on this, Luke?

2460
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I thought he lost?

2461
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 2: Did he thought he wanted decision? No?

2462
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Spee that up? You might have? Or maybe he did?

2463
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: Hold on, who's he.

2464
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 2: Fighting Shaquille O'Neil here? What kind of weight division we

2465
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 2: got going on here?

2466
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 1: Oh?

2467
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 2: Sorry?

2468
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Majority draw?

2469
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,679
Speaker 2: According to Mikey Mormon, see I couldn't. It was really

2470
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 2: hard to find footage of this, of this ship, Luke.

2471
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 2: So sorry, okay, but Jordian, you.

2472
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Pay for the dude. I'll tell you this, BKFC. It's

2473
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: all these MMA. I'm not saying Rivera took him lightly,

2474
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: but like I do think that in MMA there is

2475
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: a little overestimation of how valuable MMA striking is. For BKFC.

2476
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: It's a different animal, bro It's a different animal.

2477
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: It really is, Luke. In the featured fight for me

2478
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 2: at least, Brittain Beltran rematched Beck Rawlings and this time, Luke,

2479
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't a war. Britain Beltran relied on footwork, circling away,

2480
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: darting in and out to win a decision in which

2481
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 2: you know, Beck was just pissed off that Britt wouldn't fighter.

2482
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 2: But this was the aftermath of it, Luke. But you know,

2483
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 2: hey survive in advance for the Beltrans.

2484
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: So wait, what happened the first time?

2485
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 2: First time britt lost a split decision over five rounds

2486
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 2: and it was a war like most of Britain bell

2487
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: trans fights are. This time she really worked on pure

2488
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: boxing and movement and footwork and kind of outclassed Beck

2489
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 2: Rawlings Rodriguez here in the rematch.

2490
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, all right.

2491
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 2: No more elder abuse today, Luke, I've tried to give

2492
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 2: the old people a break, but it's time for some

2493
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 2: children to take some L's check out this open field

2494
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 2: tackle of the week or not bonus, but the zone boxing. Luke,

2495
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: here's sorry, my bad on this. Raymond Ford doing the uh.

2496
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: The imaginary basketball.

2497
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? What was that movie The Air up there? Kevin

2498
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,839
Speaker 2: Bacon played that guy Jimmy who had that triple crossover

2499
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 2: movie you know I'm talking about. Do you ever see

2500
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 2: that movie?

2501
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Luke?

2502
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, this is Raymond Ford doing his own

2503
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 2: Jimmy two step. There you go. Okay, I screwed that up, Luke.

2504
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,719
Speaker 2: Back to children abuse. Let's go over to your open

2505
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 2: field tackle.

2506
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Of the week. H oh no, big mama's running. Oh no,

2507
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: oh god, oh god.

2508
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I don't know if we could show that, Luke,

2509
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 2: but we do have some more children taking else.

2510
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Let's go over the time dogs the size of horses.

2511
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, that's what happened. Let's go over to the

2512
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: basketball court, Luke. You know you can try these dude

2513
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: perfect skits all you want. Just make sure you know

2514
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 2: where your kids are at It's ten pm, sir, do

2515
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 2: you know where your kids are?

2516
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 1: You? Just are your so mean? I always imagine this

2517
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: is my kid and I'll just be I'd be heartbroken.

2518
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I clearly didn't do that. That was

2519
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: his kid that did that, Luke. I got one more

2520
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: for you. You know you're gonna slid down a snowy hill, Luke,

2521
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 2: you got to know the parameters here. Let's check out

2522
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 2: the ending on this, bro.

2523
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 1: How many times have you had sl adding accidents?

2524
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 2: I had a Oh god, not this bad though, Luke. Sorry, son,

2525
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: you'll never be a father. Now let's call Maury. Yes, yeah,

2526
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 2: oh wow, god? Yeah, all right, biggest l's of the week, Luke,

2527
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: these are all brought to you by white people from

2528
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 2: Middle America. Here we go, best Ko the week goes

2529
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: down to this guy for this.

2530
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Not Bill's mafia doing dumb shit. Oh god, no, I

2531
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: need uh, I need some dental work. I got a

2532
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:29,839
Speaker 1: great idea.

2533
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 2: Damn near scorpion, Luke. Yikes. Wow, speaking of scorpions, you

2534
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 2: gotta be careful on the park our course, Luke.

2535
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: Oh, just some other idiot just losing teeth? Yep? Yeah,

2536
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: how's that spot here? Hey? Is this the submission that

2537
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Stevie Ray did on a.

2538
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Did he walk away from this? Can we show this, Luke. Wow,

2539
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 2: all right, Uh, let's go on to the next white person.

2540
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: Bob oh oh the handle of like the sand kettlebell.

2541
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:05,440
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

2542
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 2: Poor strong woman, Luke, she got handled and onto the subway. Luke,

2543
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 2: you gotta check yourself in the mirror before you do

2544
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: any kind of just the.

2545
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: New York City subway, that disgusting place.

2546
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't look New York City like it could be

2547
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: DC for all.

2548
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: This is like the tube. This is the tube. This

2549
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: is in London. Oh he's gonna do a backflip, you

2550
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: fucking moren oh boy?

2551
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, Look, let's play my favorite game on have

2552
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 2: you seen.

2553
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 1: The Ship's called find the Gap Asshole?

2554
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 2: It's called would you Eat?

2555
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: Luke.

2556
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 2: All I need is a yes or no number one

2557
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: on would you eat? I think they call these sushi dogs.

2558
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 1: Oh that's just perfectly disgusting, And the answer is yes,

2559
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: I would eat it.

2560
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay, one for one, ding ding ding Number two, Luke,

2561
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: I think they call this a uh a chocolate baked

2562
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 2: bean popsicle.

2563
01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: Dude, this is I mean, I'll eat Landieger from some

2564
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: dude's bag, but I ain't eating this, Luke.

2565
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 2: I would eat the shit out of this.

2566
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 1: So fucking gross, dude.

2567
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 2: I ate chocolate covered beef jerky at the at the

2568
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,480
Speaker 2: Big E in Massachusetts at the fair. Look it was fantastic,

2569
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: all right, number.

2570
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: Dude, chocolatever beef jerky. I'd eat that. But this is

2571
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: this is up there with like chocolate covered grasshoppers and.

2572
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 2: Shit, no it's not. There's big beans. It's an American tradition, luke, right,

2573
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 2: not with fucking chocolate. Okay, sorry dude, Sorry. Look, here's

2574
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: the thing. I have invented things that work. The peanut

2575
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 2: butter and cheese sandwich is a killer, luke, And it

2576
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 2: was a goole. Is so gross And then they try it,

2577
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 2: They're like, there's something here.

2578
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: Bec dude, that's what you eat. Like that's literally like

2579
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: I've got I've got enough for top. That's like top

2580
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Ramen trading in prison. Like I got a peanut butter

2581
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: and cheese sandwich for you, dude.

2582
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 2: It works and it's great. You wouldn't think. All right,

2583
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 2: let's go over the next one. Vending machine chili dogs. Now, look,

2584
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 2: they had a vending machine at a newspaper. I worked

2585
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 2: at the water Beer Republican American, and I ate meals

2586
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: out of there during my three years, twice a day, Luke,

2587
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 2: would you try these?

2588
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 1: Okay? So Sirius x Sam also had a vending mas

2589
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: like this where they had like these packaged foods with

2590
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: enough preservatives to totally liquefy your organs.

2591
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and give you a black livery. Yeah.

2592
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, okay. But even under those conditions,

2593
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eat that. That is okay. I'd eat this

2594
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: if I was literally starving. That's that's the only condition

2595
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: under which I would eat it.

2596
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 2: I never had the chili version, but at the Waterbury

2597
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 2: Republican American great newspaper, by the way, I ate double

2598
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 2: hot dog, yes, meatball grind. I ate everything they had

2599
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: in their Luke, I mean that explains a lot, unfortunately,

2600
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 2: but I've been there. Finally or no, not finally, Luke,

2601
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 2: what do you think about this birthday cake? Staying on

2602
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 2: theme here? Would you try this?

2603
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Luke? This is actually the Landjaeger the guy dropped off.

2604
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 2: Aaron? Is that you? And finally, Luke, if you don't

2605
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 2: like this cake, you might want to try this one.

2606
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 2: Happy tenth birthday to this young lad.

2607
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: We could only be so lucky to get a kick

2608
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: like this, all right, are those his titties some other girls?

2609
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh? Stop that? Stop that, Luke, let's go over to

2610
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 2: regional mma. You know anything happened. Shout out to Grobaca

2611
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: hit Man for always filling the universe with stuff like this. Luke,

2612
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: someone is still giving forty two year old Bigfoot Silva

2613
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 2: a fighting license.

2614
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: Not even funny anymore. Man.

2615
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 2: He lost his ninth straight combat sports fight against Oleg

2616
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Popov in Russia.

2617
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 1: Luke, it's unethical, Like I'm not even trying to like again,

2618
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't say these things to like, yo, get that fighter,

2619
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm doing. But it's just unethical to

2620
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: book him in fights. And I understand he's got his

2621
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 1: own choice. I'm yeah. If that doesn't make you uncomfortable,

2622
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: nothing does.

2623
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: Eight of those nine losses across multiple combat disciplines have

2624
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 2: been by knockout. But Luke, someone's also giving forty four

2625
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 2: year old Zulo Zeno a fighting license, the Brazilian legend.

2626
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Luke.

2627
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 2: Here he loses a unanimous decision to Vasili Komatsky into this.

2628
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: Um, I am not into this?

2629
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean does that guy did that guy up

2630
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 2: the cage? And then and then uh, and park and

2631
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: drive the uber home. Look what are we doing here?

2632
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 2: Look at the guy who's fighting.

2633
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what's the word I'm looking for. Terrible.

2634
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, it looks like Abdulah the butcher

2635
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 2: there in the middle. Oh, let's go over to j

2636
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: C K M m A. Here's a R dake A

2637
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Pierre with a perfect some spinny shit.

2638
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Luke, look at that. That's amazing, right to the bop

2639
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 1: to the jaw. Hit him with the bop gun.

2640
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 2: Damn, that's perfect. You don't see that elite mma that

2641
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 2: often Matrix Fight Night nine Jojo Raka Murray with a

2642
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: brutal left hand finish. Great name by the way. Oh damn,

2643
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 2: there's a testify going on there, Luke.

2644
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did the old testifying in church. Bit uh

2645
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: and this one is Jesus. That was I didn't see

2646
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 1: that coming.

2647
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 2: Nope, I mean it was just right outside your door, Luke.

2648
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Now testify that old Los Angeles great album. No one

2649
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 2: ever talks about it. Luke, here's a replay of it. Damn.

2650
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, she faked to take down and came over with

2651
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: the overhand. That's classic mma. That's great.

2652
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 2: That's nice, real recognizing real this week as new Hall

2653
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 2: of Famer andre Ward doing a little impromptu shadow box

2654
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 2: with rising star Devin the Dream Haney. This give you

2655
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 2: any feels?

2656
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Luke I saw this too, andre andre looked a little

2657
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: a little rusty.

2658
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that man, though, big andre Ward fan.

2659
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: Showtime documentary coming out next year should be good, should.

2660
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 1: Be good, right right, all right?

2661
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 2: Last week Luke I got criticized for showing people falling

2662
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 2: through the floor a lot. Apparently that woman in the

2663
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 2: bar that fell through the floor was like severely injured.

2664
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: So I apologize this. It may have happened to this

2665
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 2: guy too. But you know the old saying, Luke. Yeah,

2666
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 2: sounds like you've learned through less man whole man down, Luke.

2667
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 1: Oh, that's just good. That's just good. Municipal governors right there.

2668
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 2: Sure your uber is here, but the devil is driving.

2669
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 2: You're You're done? Okay, there you're Luke.

2670
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: You love to hang out with the Ninja turtles.

2671
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, what's the guys? What's the bad guy's name?

2672
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Sphincter or yes, yes, yes, BC, it's sphincter, Yes, Luke.

2673
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Not everyone knows that you do this show from a

2674
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 2: from a weird gaming chair that a fifteen year old

2675
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 2: high on energy drink should be drinking. But I found

2676
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 2: you an upgrade to your gaming chair.

2677
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: Luke, you act like this is a joke.

2678
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, look at that. Look at that little hand,

2679
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 2: little how's your father?

2680
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 1: While you're sitting down, Luke, you act like I would.

2681
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: By the way, this chair is the most comfortable chair

2682
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: in the world, and once you sit in it you

2683
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: will retract all of your blaspheming about it. But more

2684
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: to the point, you act like I wouldn't accept this.

2685
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: I would accept this all right.

2686
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 2: Let me know how your League of Legends tournaments go

2687
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: after this show the.

2688
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 1: World of Warcraft face. Get it right.

2689
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 2: Here's how to not by the way I should I

2690
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 2: should talk. I'm like addicted to Fortnite. I play more

2691
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 2: than my kids.

2692
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry, I've literally never played Fortnite, not one time.

2693
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 2: Now that they get now that they have a no

2694
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 2: billd options of have to deal with all those punk

2695
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 2: kids like putting me in a wooden box and killing me.

2696
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 2: It's fantastic right now, Luke, I'm so in. I'm so in,

2697
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 2: all right. Here's how to not take an l How

2698
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 2: to not take an L Okay, Luke, we always show fails.

2699
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 2: How about some wins. Look at this parkour Magic.

2700
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: Damn. I kind of wish he had fallen through.

2701
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 2: Dana White decided against this, Luke. Unfortunately. Let's go to

2702
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 2: skateboard and check out this guy. This should be and

2703
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 2: should be on the X Games.

2704
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: Wow, holy shit, a'lli air, Luke. You know that's the

2705
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: magic of skateboarding. It's like you have to do the most,

2706
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 1: like the margin of air is so slim, but if

2707
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: you do it, man, it is fucking epic.

2708
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm awful on roller skates, no surprise. I have

2709
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 2: no coordination on things like that. But check out this man.

2710
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 2: This is some sick shit. If we can advance the slide,

2711
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 2: thank you, Long Island.

2712
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 1: Luke. Please there it is, Dude, What the fuck?

2713
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 2: Look at that magician.

2714
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 1: That's a crazy I can't even do that in the pool, Luke.

2715
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 2: Shout outs to roller Magic in Waterbury, Connecticut. Dude, I've

2716
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 2: had so many birthday parties there. I held the girl's

2717
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 2: hand for the first time, watch kids smoke cigarettes in

2718
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 2: the bathroom. It's great, great times. Did you hole?

2719
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 1: This is going to be you after our show on

2720
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Friday at beer house.

2721
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope, so, Luke, is this man

2722
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 2: a hero or a weirdo? Your thoughts? Apparently he buried

2723
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 2: liquor in the grass a month before of the concert

2724
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 2: venue and then dug it up like the hero he is.

2725
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 2: I hope you think this guy's a hero.

2726
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, he is. He is definitely a weirdo, because

2727
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: that's a lot of commitment to a brain tosin. On

2728
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:46,839
Speaker 1: the other hand, he is also a hero because buddy,

2729
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 1: the party just arrived.

2730
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the parties where you're at Red Red Pants. There

2731
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 2: you go? All right? A couple more here, Luke. Finally,

2732
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 2: footage of Joan of ARC's wedding has surfaced, Luke before

2733
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 2: her death. She's a French hero.

2734
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: Luke, what the fuck they're gonna?

2735
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 2: What the fuck dude, that wedding's fire?

2736
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Ohkay? Will you please quit this job?

2737
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know the statue of limitations that John

2738
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 2: of Arc jokes have have passed, Luke, It's okay, all right,

2739
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 2: it's like fourteen hundred.

2740
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 4: Okay, look, pleasely, honestly, just just I'm gonna I'm gonna

2741
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna use the line from Saving Private Ryan BC.

2742
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 1: Don't shoot let him burn.

2743
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I don't know if you know that heavyweights

2744
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 2: Derek Chazora and Kubrat poulever headed toward a July nine

2745
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: to three match. But we already have the sound bite

2746
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 2: of the year. Here we go.

2747
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 3: Basically, you got miss Universe there. Yeah, and you've got

2748
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 3: some team back to chick comwa fat smlly pussy which

2749
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 3: one can go for what you want to wake up

2750
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 3: for and get.

2751
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 1: Hot them for.

2752
02:02:57,080 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting my heart for you. That's why I'm gonna explay.

2753
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 3: So you have to understand now, I am gonna come pocious,

2754
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 3: vicious mate.

2755
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Luke, He's going to come viciously on July ninth.

2756
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:14,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there.

2757
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 2: Old Dell boy, just just putting it right on the table, Luke, right,

2758
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 2: just yeah, there it is, Okay.

2759
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 1: I just do they get to a point where they

2760
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: get so horny it just it just turns into like

2761
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 1: a self orgy. I don't even know how to describe it, exactly.

2762
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 2: Fucking fight and it's all the same, Luke, right, Louis

2763
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 2: Doug yep okay, uh, Luke. That was supposed to be

2764
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 2: the end of it, but there was a clip that

2765
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 2: was sent to me, I don't know seventy eight times

2766
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 2: from our fans, and one Gaffney Pierre, the fine producer

2767
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 2: who assembles this shit each week, said BC, I gotta

2768
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: add it to the show. So here we go, Luke.

2769
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: I did see this because some people tagged me as well.

2770
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't like this at all, Luke, but you know

2771
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 2: we are here to rate that tat. So what do

2772
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 2: you think, Luke?

2773
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the uh the tattoo artist He's like, yeah,

2774
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 1: we're not done with the tattoo. We have to finish

2775
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: the ball hair.

2776
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 2: We have to wrap the shafts around each other.

2777
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 1: Luke.

2778
02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 2: Okay, you know I didn't.

2779
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 1: I didn't finish shading on the the grundle. Let me

2780
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 1: let me get to that. This is, I mean, two

2781
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: people who definitely don't want to have gainful employment ever

2782
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: in their lives. So nice work.

2783
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to mister Hebos Luke a lot of

2784
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 2: love for his daughter. But with that tat right, I

2785
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 2: wish you would have recognized that.

2786
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, come here, Smithfire, you old horny bastard. You're

2787
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:45,000
Speaker 1: just the worst.

2788
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, we don't what was that segment we used

2789
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 2: to do to close every Monday.

2790
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: Odds and ends, odds and.

2791
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 2: Odds and ends. I got one this week, Luke. I

2792
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to let the sun go down on me.

2793
02:04:56,360 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 2: No one goes down to me. Luke bam Rodrigaez, Jesse

2794
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 2: bam Rodriguez and the Designed Boxing Man event on Saturday

2795
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 2: from San Antonio. Luke, here's the deal. If you don't know,

2796
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm twenty two years old southpaw, the brother of vantamweight

2797
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 2: champ Joshua Franco. But Luke, he was a champion at

2798
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 2: what one oh eight, was offered his last fight on

2799
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,839
Speaker 2: six days notice to move up to one point fifteen

2800
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 2: two divisions and fight Carlos Quadras, and he beat him

2801
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 2: by upset. Now he went on to fight the guy

2802
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 2: who was supposed to fight Quadras that night, the killer

2803
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 2: of the division at Superfly Srisika sore rung Viside, the

2804
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 2: guy Luke who for a short season looked like he

2805
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 2: sent Chuck Latito into retirement with that vicious ko in

2806
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 2: split fights with pound ranked Jan Francisco Estrada. I don't

2807
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 2: know if you saw this fight on Saturday, Luke so

2808
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 2: rung Vasai at thirty five poured out the jug the

2809
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 2: first couple rounds, but Bam Rodriguez started putting him on

2810
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 2: him and he stopped him. Luke, so rungvis I had

2811
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 2: only been stopped on cuts previously in his career. Dude,

2812
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 2: this is a may breakthrough performance for the guy who's

2813
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 2: trained by Robert Garcia again just twenty two years old,

2814
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 2: an American success story, Luke. And right now he's saying

2815
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 2: he will fight anybody at one owait one twelve or

2816
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 2: one fifteen. He is he is coming the hell on

2817
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 2: watch out for Bam Rodriguez, Mexican American can fight his

2818
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 2: balls off to go in there against the rat king

2819
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,280
Speaker 2: Sesa catsor rung Vasai and brutally and beat him down

2820
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 2: and stop him. Dude, that's a break through performance. Give

2821
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 2: me chocolatito, give me a new way, give me you

2822
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 2: know estrada, give me anybody who wants this smoke. And

2823
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 2: by the way, like I said, he can also go

2824
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 2: back down to one O wait and fight some of

2825
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 2: the the global threats at that division two. You gotta

2826
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 2: start watching this guy. You gotta start taking notice he's coming,

2827
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 2: Bam Rode.

2828
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: I watched, I watched, I didn't watch the entire day

2829
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: of it. But I watched a few rounds and I was

2830
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: watching live when he sat him down the first time,

2831
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 1: and dude, it wasn't close. It wasn't close. He beat

2832
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:01,919
Speaker 1: his ass from beginning to end. That dude's incredible, super incredible.

2833
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 1: And Eddie Hearn afterwards, speaking to Chris Mannix in the

2834
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 1: ring of the crowd in San Antonio was hyping him

2835
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 1: up big time and the crowd was just fucking eating it.

2836
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 1: So it was a great, great breakout moment for him.

2837
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 2: Final boxing nugget, Luke and that comin event merge on

2838
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 2: Akmadaliev stopped Ronnie Rios in round twelve. He has two

2839
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 2: titles at one twenty two. Stephen Fulton Junior has the

2840
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 2: other two, according to Eddie Hearn, because Stephen Fulton tweeted

2841
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 2: out like, hey, let's do it, let's make this fight.

2842
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:30,360
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn was like, we have no problems, let's make it. Luke,

2843
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,200
Speaker 2: I hope everybody is being sincere. I don't know. Does

2844
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 2: it happen on show Tom, I would think, But Eddie

2845
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 2: Hearn has the contract with his own if they can

2846
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 2: make this fight happen for all four belts at one

2847
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 2: twenty two, Luke, this is a hell hell of a

2848
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 2: fight to close the year. I hope, so, I hope, so.

2849
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: I hope. You know, well, that would be that's the

2850
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: dream fight for that weight class that really is Acuadelia

2851
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 1: like Fulton.

2852
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 2: And that's the problem in boxing because promoters are so

2853
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 2: tied to networks that when a promoter is like, no,

2854
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: I have no problem making that fight, let's do it.

2855
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 2: When it's Oscar de la Hoya saying that, he really means, yeah,

2856
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 2: come to my network and we'll fight under my terms.

2857
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they make this happen, Luke, but

2858
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 2: it would be great for the sport if they did.

2859
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 2: And everybody's saying, let's make it happen. So hey, Luke Thomas,

2860
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 2: let's make it happen.

2861
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: All right, all right, BC, we gotta get move in here.

2862
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 1: So let's remind everyone we're gonna do it all weekend long,

2863
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 1: all week long. I should say, beer house, beer House,

2864
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 1: beer house, beer house, beer House. Friday Live, five pm

2865
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 1: start time Local time, of course, if you want to

2866
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 1: watch it be eight pm in the East, but five

2867
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: pm local time right after the ceremonial way ins for

2868
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 1: UFC two seventy six, come hang out with me in BC.

2869
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: It's free to get in. We're gonna do dms from donks,

2870
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the Wheel, We're gonna have a good time.

2871
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Sugar Shot Evans is gonna be there,

2872
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe some other folks as well, So come hang out

2873
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: with us at beer house right outside the T Mobile

2874
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 1: Arena on Friday. As a reminder, Morning Combat at gmail

2875
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:47,680
Speaker 1: dot com is the place to reach the show for

2876
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:50,640
Speaker 1: any kind of dead wrongs or any kind of fan subs.

2877
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: Showtime dot com is the label that pays you get

2878
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: a thirty day free trail at showtime dot com.

2879
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 2: The guys here to look at my look at my furnace, Luke,

2880
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't have hot water, and the upstairs bathroom I

2881
02:08:59,000 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 2: gotta run.

2882
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, great, do your thing. I'll take us out

2883
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:06,000
Speaker 1: of here. And uh yeah, oh, don't forget Jared Kennan.

2884
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Your interview with BC will be on the site YouTube

2885
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 1: dot com slash Morning Combat at two thirty. My Adrian

2886
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 1: jan Yez interview because that's pparently how you pronounce his

2887
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 1: name now, he told me is on the site as well.

2888
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 1: Plus the pregame preview with Chuck Mendenhall plus the Max

2889
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: Holloway resume review, plus the Max Holloway Volkanovski rewatch as well.

2890
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,080
Speaker 1: All of that is there available for your viewing pleasure.

2891
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 1: That's it for us today. We thank you so much

2892
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 1: for watching. We'll be back on Wednesday. Well, we'll have content.

2893
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 1: It'll I'm flying out tomorrow so as BC, but we'll

2894
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 1: have some stuff for you live on Tuesday or you know,

2895
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 1: it'll be on the site Tuesday as well. Okay, So

2896
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 1: until then for CBS Sports, for showtime for Malka, that's

2897
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, may all

2898
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal.