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Speaker 1: Rich, How was your Fourth of July? Man?

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 3: We hung out by the pool, had some glizzies, watched

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Speaker 3: some things blow up. It was as American as apple

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Speaker 3: pie a j What about you?

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Speaker 1: Nice? Mine was great? Pretty similar. We went to the pool.

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Speaker 4: I had this American flag themed, you know, red white

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Speaker 4: and blue outfit going.

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Speaker 1: I had American flag swimsuit.

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Speaker 4: I had this like, you know, sort of button up

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Speaker 4: American flag, you know, red white and blue shirt going on.

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Speaker 4: And then I was wearing a hat, a red, white

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Speaker 4: and blue hat. And as I was at the pool,

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Speaker 4: I got a couple people commenting saying, man, I really

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Speaker 4: like your hat, and it was red, white and blue.

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Speaker 4: But I thought about it and I realized I was

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Speaker 4: wearing a Quebec nor Deeke's hat. I was wearing a

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Speaker 4: Canadian hat on.

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Speaker 1: The fourth of July. I'm JJ And over the last couple.

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Speaker 4: Of years, I've been doing everything I can to be

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Speaker 1: I got fortieth in the.

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Speaker 4: another episode of becoming a Best ball Bro. I'm JJ

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Speaker 4: Zacharies and joined as always by Rich Ryan Rich.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Doing good? Buddy, you weren't far off.

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Speaker 3: Canada Day is July first, and the only reason I

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Speaker 3: know that is because my son was born on July first,

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Speaker 3: and my brother lives in Ontario, so they thought it

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Speaker 3: was hilarious that I had a child on Canada Day.

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Speaker 4: Canada feeling just as bad as we are about the

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Speaker 4: World Cup result.

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Speaker 1: I told my wife this morning.

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Speaker 4: I was like, because she fell asleep, didn't watch, didn'

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Speaker 4: end up watching the game, which I mean, smart decision

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Speaker 4: in the end. But I was like, yeah, that was

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Speaker 4: the worst soccer game that I've ever watched. And I've

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Speaker 4: watched a dozen of them, you know, I'm I've watched

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Speaker 4: so many soccer games.

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Speaker 2: This man, that was that was brilliant.

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Speaker 3: It's just emblematic of just the difference in class between

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Speaker 3: the American players and players abroad, guys that have been

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Speaker 3: in European academies and systems, and man, they really clapp

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Speaker 3: well as soon as they didn't start Kevin de Bryna.

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Speaker 3: It kind of said everything that they thought about us

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, rough, rough rough night for for Americans.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, but it's nice that we can all

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Speaker 4: commiserate together, like you're used to commiserating only with other

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Speaker 4: Jets fans, and that's all you can do is, uh

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Speaker 1: But anyway, we're gonna talk a little best ball today.

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Speaker 4: I don't really have that much from a game theory

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Speaker 4: what I'm seeing perspective right now. I've still kind of

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Speaker 4: been approaching drafts with the mentality of mixing things up

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Speaker 1: Exposure for certain players and such.

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Speaker 4: But I also think that, like we shouldn't assume that

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Speaker 4: think that it could very easily be a year where

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Speaker 4: we get better wide receiver production, you know, especially at

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Speaker 4: don't want to just dismiss them because I'm going after

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Speaker 4: it up quite a bit. If you guys want to

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Speaker 4: check out a draft that I actually did today. This

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Speaker 4: is on Tuesday, we're recording this. I ended up liking it.

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Speaker 4: Did you did you watch that?

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Speaker 1: By chance?

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Speaker 3: I got about halfway through, honestly, I got to say.

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Speaker 3: My favorite part of the draft, and it's something I've

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Speaker 3: I've wanted to do this entire summer, but I've not

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Speaker 3: Week seventeen matchup. I think that is a very fun

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Speaker 3: galaxy brain tight end in the flex, Like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: I think that that it's it's one of those things

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Speaker 4: try to do that maybe two or three times in

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Speaker 4: you know, my one to fifty that I'm doing, just

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Speaker 4: to have that exposure to those guys because obviously, like

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Speaker 4: you said, they play each other week seventeen. You also,

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Speaker 4: you know in those situations like I'm not the kind

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Speaker 4: of drafter that believes in sort of cannibalizing the one

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Speaker 4: You know, you could make the argument that in doing so,

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Speaker 4: kind of chasing that position, which I get, and I understand.

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Speaker 4: The issue that I run into with that is that

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Speaker 4: little bit easier to wrap your head around. But they

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Speaker 4: destroy it this position. Sure you probably will, and then

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Speaker 4: other people are not going to have very good quarterback rooms,

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Speaker 4: and therefore you know they're not they're gonna have a

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Speaker 4: I just think it's just not an optimal way to

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Speaker 4: First off, you're not necessarily set up to be optimal,

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Speaker 4: it's more defensible in my opinion, at tight end because

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Speaker 4: the argument of well, Josh Allen has the highest ceiling

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Speaker 4: if he's the guy that you need in week fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 4: are late round quarterbacks who can match Josh Allen's weekly

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Speaker 4: I mean the team that I got fortieth last year

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Speaker 4: And so I don't think that it's as applicable to

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Speaker 4: where yeah, like Brock Bauers and Trey McBride.

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Speaker 1: They're weekly ceiling.

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Speaker 4: From a probability driven of course, like a Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 3: So you said you liked the draft after you were

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Speaker 3: in the eleven spot, after last night the night prior

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Speaker 2: Draft out of the eleven spot. So so what was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like this one. I ended up getting a

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Speaker 4: If you do go wide receiver first, or you know,

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Speaker 4: taking Drake London in that area. I see Brock Bauers

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Speaker 4: second round to really go Bauers. So the decision really

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Speaker 4: to you know, I was really heavy on Chase Brown

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Speaker 4: decent amount of Chase Brown. I'm not just clicking the

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Speaker 1: I got Lad.

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Speaker 4: So I started that Chargers stack a little bit, and

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Speaker 4: then I got Bashall Tuton and Parker Washington as a

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Speaker 1: And then I realized very quickly that they have the same.

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Speaker 4: Buy as the Chargers, so I couldn't double tab Justin

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Speaker 4: Herbert with Trevor Lawrence, which telaw almost made it back

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Speaker 4: to me again in the ninth round, which would have

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Speaker 4: been crazy because that's a huge value.

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Speaker 1: It was only two picks away.

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Speaker 4: But I got Justin Herbert, and then Jalen Warren also

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Speaker 4: fell to the late seventh, so the team was like

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Speaker 4: looking good from just like a CLV, you know, ADP

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Speaker 4: was really nice to get that Minnesota stack, and then

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Speaker 4: the rest of the draft I think kind of fell

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Speaker 4: into place. It was a good, strong, structural draft the

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Speaker 4: I had a big gap between Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason.

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Speaker 1: But the more that I've thought about it, the.

440
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Speaker 4: More I'm like, all right, Aaron Jones is not Aaron

441
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 4: Jones is not young anymore.

442
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: Right, He's definitely on the wrong side of the age curve.

443
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 4: And then they draft him on Clayborne, who is a

444
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 4: smaller you know, it's like in the one eighties from

445
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 4: a wait perspective, speedy back who catches, who can catch

446
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 4: passes out of the backfield, which is more of an

447
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 4: Aaron Jones duplicate as opposed to a Jordan Mason one.

448
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: And so my thought process here is that I think

449
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 4: Mason could walk away from this season with two hundred

450
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 4: rush attempts realistically, just given the way that this backfield

451
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: currently sits. So do I think his ceiling is like crazy? No,

452
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 4: But there are definitely builds like the one that I

453
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 4: had today where Jordan Mason gives me a nice floor

454
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 4: when I when I needed that floor. And so I

455
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 4: think where he goes in like the one twenty five

456
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 4: to one thirty range, like, I'm totally fine with taking

457
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 4: him there. Remember last year he was going like round seven.

458
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 4: Like it's a completely different math equation that we're doing

459
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 4: here for Jordan Mason. So I'm now in on Mason.

460
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 4: There's a chance that he hands up as a player

461
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 4: to target, even though in the in the draft guide,

462
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: because of all the reasons I just talked about, and

463
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 4: there are some instances I'm not saying that this is

464
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 4: the way that I generally draft, But if you're in

465
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 4: a deep league. You know, if you're in a league,

466
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 4: there's a lot of starting lineup spots and you just

467
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 4: need some product. I think Jordan Mason can be okay

468
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 4: and those in those situations.

469
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: So the gap is narrowing between him and Jones. Right now,

470
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: there are eight spots in ADP between Jones and Jordan Mason.

471
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: Mason up three spots, Aaron Jones down half a spot

472
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: week over week. Are there any scenarios with which you

473
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: would click Mason over Aaron Jones just like to randomize,

474
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: or are you clicking Jones pretty much over Mason in

475
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: these spots.

476
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion.

477
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 4: I think that I'm just playing the ADP game right, Like,

478
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 4: like when one of them goes off the board, I

479
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: will click the other one within the next pick if

480
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: I need to go running back in that scenario. You know,

481
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 4: if I have to choose one of them, I would

482
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 4: say I think Jones still probably has a higher ceiling

483
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: because of the pass catching and if if my build

484
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 4: kind of calls for that, I'd go that direction.

485
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: Like it wouldn't chuck me at all. If Jordan Mason's

486
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: two hundred carries this year is what this really comes

487
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: down to.

488
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 4: You're buying that volume in even on a full PPR platform.

489
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez is the same deal, except Rodriguez has a

490
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 4: much bigger hill to climb and beat right with be

491
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: shall touton where Jordan Mason doesn't have that at all.

492
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: And yes, Jacksonville's offensive environment should be better than Minnesota's.

493
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: But if you're relatively bullish.

494
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: On Kyler and what Minnesota's offense can do, then I

495
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 4: think that you could just argue that this backfield in

496
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: general is a little bit undervalued.

497
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: You know that we should probably be getting them a

498
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: little bit more than we are.

499
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how everyone else is drafting.

500
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: Maybe I should be getting them a little bit more

501
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: than I am. And that's what I've been doing over

502
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 4: the last two weeks or so, especially with Jordan Mason.

503
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk about some followers and a guy who just

504
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 3: can't seem to put his phone down needs to be

505
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: live at all times. Brandon Ayuk down a full round

506
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: week over a week now into Round eighteen, so you

507
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: had been getting some exposure on Ayyuk. Are you spooked

508
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: by what is going on?

509
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? I haven't drafted Ayuk and know week and a

510
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: half at this part.

511
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 4: Two weeks since since we last talked, basically, there was

512
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 4: a tweet from my sports update Ari on Twitter that

513
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: said forty nine Ers wide receiver Brandon Nyuk says he

514
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: won't be filing for reinstatement because he doesn't want to

515
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: do business with the team. Okay, under the scenario, and

516
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: by the way, I don't think Ayuk has an agent.

517
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: Is that is that right?

518
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: That sounds right?

519
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that he's doing this without an agent. So,

520
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys can fact check me on that.

521
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: Under this scenario, the forty nine Ers can leave him

522
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 4: on the left squad list. He would remain on the team,

523
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: but wouldn't count against the roster or receive any pay.

524
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 4: So Brandon Nyuk's out there on on Instagram being like,

525
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna file for reinstatement because then I have

526
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 4: to do business with the forty nine ers and I

527
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: hate the forty nine ers, but that's literally.

528
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: The only way he can play football.

529
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: The very next Instagram post, he's like, all I want

530
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: to do is get back on the field.

531
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, this is what you gotta do to

532
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: get back on the field. You gotta sign, you got

533
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: you gotta talk to the team.

534
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: You have to send one email to right just press

535
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: at forty nine ers dot com.

536
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then all the drama with Jayden Daniels that's

537
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: gone on. I mean, part of me wants to believe

538
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: that it was staged and it was like a way

539
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: for something, you know, for the for the commanders to

540
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: get him cheaper, whatever the case may be.

541
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that that's the case, but I don't think.

542
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, the.

543
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 4: Way that Ayuk's been acting, I don't know if he

544
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: could think that, I mean, just be that thoughtful about,

545
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: you know, scheming something. So yeah, I mean like it's

546
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: a really crappy situation all around. I'm avoiding Ayuk right

547
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 4: now because before I'm like, I think he's gonna play,

548
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: I just don't know where whether that's gonna look like

549
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: I would honestly say there's a better chance to not at.

550
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: This point that he's gonna play football ever again, right.

551
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: Like, maybe it's probably like a fifty to fifty shot. Right,

552
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: Like we've seen this happen before. Deontay Johnson was not

553
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: as out in the open with all of this and

554
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: like Aaron Grievances and et cetera. And he's I mean,

555
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: look what happened to with his career, right, He's not

556
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: as good as Ayuk, but he's not a bad wide

557
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 4: receiver and he's out of the league essentially. So I'm

558
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm very nervous about Ayuk, and so are my dynasties.

559
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: Were my dynasty bags?

560
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: My gosh, we're a couple burned feet and a cryotherapy

561
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: chamber away from the Antonio Brown trajectory.

562
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: Honestly, screw hard knocks. You just just follow Brandon Idy.

563
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Why why not at least through like many episodes his

564
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: perhaps presumed future teammates. Bringing up Jalen, Jayden Daniels k

565
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: Tron Allen is another fall of the rookie running back

566
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: out of Washington down another four spots this week in

567
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: the eighteenth round.

568
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if this is like I think

569
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: this could be the result of like the Rashad White

570
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: jor Cory Krofsky merrit wars that are going on right

571
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: now where people are like kind of staking a claim

572
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: on one of those guys, which, by the way, I'm

573
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: on team Rashad White.

574
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: Between those two JCM just literally has never been a

575
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: pass catcher.

576
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: He was not a pass catcher in college, he was

577
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: an older prospect, he was not a pass catcher last year.

578
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 4: And in this kind of scenario, I'm gonna lean towards

579
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: the pass catcher more. This isn't a situation in my opinion,

580
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: that's like Jordan Mason Aaron Jones, because Rashad Whites lie

581
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: younger than Aaron Jones, and I don't one ground game

582
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: work to cloud my judgment about how good or bad

583
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: a player is, which is what the argument always is

584
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: with Rashad White because there's a lot of variance in

585
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: volatility with rushing numbers. But Kate tron Allen, I still

586
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: think he's a decent dart because if you look at

587
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: day three running back hits over the last decade or so,

588
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: they all come from ambiguous backfields.

589
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: It just depends on how you want to define that.

590
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: But there are b one on their team is typically

591
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: drafted after RB thirty and that's what we're seeing you

592
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: in Washington. It's an ambiguous backfield. So I think you

593
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: can still throw that dart at k tron Allen. But

594
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 4: again this is another reason though, why you know if

595
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: you go back to the Minnesota comparison, they each have

596
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 4: Day three rookies attached to their backfields. Kate tron Allen

597
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 4: is more of the Jacory krossky Merit replacement Slash would

598
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: dig into his role because Kate tron Allen's an early

599
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: down bruiser and can still some goal line work, but

600
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: he's not much of a pass catcher, whereas Debon Claiborne

601
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: is more of the Aaron Jones archetype, right, And so

602
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: that's why I was more attracted to a guy like

603
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 4: Jordan Mason than I would be Jacory krossky Merit. And

604
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: so yeah, I still think though that that k tron

605
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: Allen is is an interesting click given that he's going

606
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 4: as late as he is.

607
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: And then we'll move to Carolina where Tuba Hubbard is

608
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: seeing a dip down two spots this week in a

609
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: more consequential seventh round.

610
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've gotten him in the eighth at times,

611
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: Like that's when I'm that to me, that's the sweet

612
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: spot for him, Like if you know that he's going

613
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: to fall in drafts at times because of the Jonathan

614
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: Brooks love, which look, I've drafted a lot of Jonathan Brooks, I'm.

615
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: In, we're all hoping, we're all we're all open.

616
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But Cuba.

617
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: I've had some hero RB builds or even zero RB

618
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: builds where I draft Tuba because I do think that

619
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: there's a floor, uh with with Hubbard, you know, generally speaking.

620
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, like, Cuba is more volatile than

621
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: what the mark, especially in season long when we I know,

622
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: this is the best ball show. But when you get

623
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: to your season long drafts and people are drafting off

624
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 4: a projection a lot more than they probably should.

625
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: Cuba is one.

626
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: Of those players where he's gonna look a lot better

627
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: from a projection standpoint than like versus it capturing his

628
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: act volatility. Like he's in a backfield where quite literally

629
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: last year, we saw this coaching staff be okay with

630
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: replacing him, you know, with with another running back that

631
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: was just playing better at the time, and you know,

632
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: Rico Dowdell cooled down a little bit down the stretch.

633
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: But if Jonathan Brooks plays well and he's a good

634
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: prospect and there's a lot of upside attached to that profile,

635
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: Chuba Hubbard can lose his job, It can lose a

636
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: big workload in that backfield because we've seen it. There's

637
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: no attachment. And I give the Panthers credit for what

638
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: they did last year, right, Like, Hubbard was not playing

639
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: as well as Rico Dowdell was and they made the switch,

640
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: and then when Dowdell started to play, that's when Hubbard's

641
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: you know, Hubbard was healthier and he was starting to

642
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: get more work and he looked a little bit better

643
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: down the stretch. Like that's what a hot hand approach

644
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: really should be. When coaches just say, oh, we're gonna

645
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: go the running back with the hot hand the most carries,

646
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: they're really just saying we're going to give the running

647
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: back we like the most the most carries. But Carolina

648
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: actually went with a hot hand approach, and because of that,

649
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: we should be open to that when we're drafting those

650
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: running backs in that backfield.

651
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we have of an asset like Jonathan Brooks

652
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: who is so extremely volatile, it is not only hard

653
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: to project him, but in the same backfield somebody who

654
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: is likely to get some work, it's terribly difficult to

655
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: also project Tuba Hubbard, right, because if Brooks goes super Saiyan,

656
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: like you said, that eats into Schubert Hubbard's ability if Brooks,

657
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: if the injuries are just too much for him to sustain,

658
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Chuba Hubbard becomes a value

659
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: here in the seventh round.

660
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Speaker 2: So just a very volatile asset.

661
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: Remember Hubbard was Hubbard was a fade for this show

662
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: last year, and it's because he was a fifth round pick.

663
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Speaker 4: And there is a significant, significant opportunity cost difference when

664
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Speaker 4: you're talking round five to round eight.

665
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Speaker 1: That's a large one, especially if you look at it

666
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: this year.

667
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: You know you're passing on like Courtland Sutton types or

668
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson types or whatever. It's a huge, huge difference

669
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Speaker 4: versus like Christian Watson or some of these year two

670
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Speaker 4: running backs.

671
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Like that's a big, big deal.

672
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Speaker 4: That's why, like Trube but to me is not really

673
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: a fade, just simply because of that overall. But anyway,

674
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: we have a guest for today's show. Rich If you

675
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: guys have been following Pete overs that's so you think

676
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: you can tout, then you have seen the guys from

677
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: the Toxic Tower on that show, one of them being

678
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: Best Ball Guy BBG or Eric whatever you want to

679
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: call him. Actually I asked him in this interview what

680
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: he wanted to be called, and he said, BBG's fine,

681
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: so we'll go with BBG. But he's from the Toxic Tower.

682
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: You probably saw him on, so you think you can tout.

683
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: He's got a YouTube channel of his own as well

684
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Speaker 4: at Best Ball Guy.

685
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Speaker 1: It was a great conversation.

686
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: We talked about what people might misunderstand going from Season

687
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Speaker 4: long to Best Ball, the importance of rankings, to the

688
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: discussion that we had last week. We talked about that

689
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: on the show in the interview some recent big name risers,

690
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: so much more. It was a great, great conversation. I

691
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Speaker 4: hope you guys enjoy it. So, without further ado, here's

692
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Speaker 4: my chat with BBG. All right, BBYG, we have a

693
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Speaker 4: lot of people that are kind of coming into the

694
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Speaker 4: draft game and the fantasy football game right now.

695
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, we're post fourth of July.

696
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: This is usually the timeframe when people start getting into

697
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: it more. What do you think for people who are

698
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: maybe getting into, you know, dipping their toes into Best

699
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: Ball a little bit, what do you think folks get

700
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: wrong when thinking about Season long and then going into Best.

701
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Ball and what are some of the pitfalls there?

702
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was imagining someone coming over from you know,

703
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 5: a redraft landscape into best Ball for the first time.

704
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: And one of the things that I think that people

705
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 5: need to realize about Best Ball is you're you're playing

706
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: a massive tournament here. That is really the big difference

707
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: here is you have these tens of thousands to hundred

708
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 5: of thousand person contests and essentially you cannot add and

709
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: drop players, right, That's the major difference with best Ball.

710
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 5: So you need to plan your teams to have not

711
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 5: only the fire power for the late season, which can

712
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: come sometimes from those you know, handcuff running backs, rookie

713
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: wide receivers, stuff like that, but you also need to

714
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: be careful about the fact that you can't add and

715
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: drop players. You need to also try to not take

716
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: zeros on your roster. So it's really this game of

717
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: building teams that don't have zeros but also yet have

718
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: upside baked into some of these profiles that can break

719
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: out late and give you that like late season hammer.

720
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: You really want to look down at a team in

721
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 5: Best Ball that advances through the regular season into Week

722
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: fifteen that has like, you know, these really fun rookies

723
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 5: that are recently breaking out or you do have the

724
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: you know, the Bucky Irving of twenty twenty four who

725
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 5: has taken over the backfield that you got in the

726
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: fifteenth round and is starting now on your roster.

727
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 6: That kind of thing.

728
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about this.

729
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: I was actually doing a live stream last week, and

730
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: we always hear the phrase better in best ball, right,

731
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: where like these players are better in a best ball

732
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Speaker 4: environment than they are in a season long environment. And

733
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Speaker 4: I think that when people to your point, I think

734
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: that the way that people think about that is almost

735
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: backwards because they often think, oh, I need like, of

736
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: course you need spiked.

737
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: Spiked ceilings and weekly ceilings and such.

738
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: But I also think that like they're not thinking about it,

739
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: like like for instance.

740
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Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez, right, or Jordan Mason types, like those those

741
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: types of like.

742
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: Early down grinders where they're they're ceiling from a receiving perspective.

743
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: Isn't that that crazy? I don't really mind, like a

744
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: Jordan Mason is whatever. I mean, it's late enough that

745
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm not going to really like care if someone like

746
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: has like a really hardcore stance in these guys, But realistically,

747
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: like a Jordan Mason type, I'm probably gonna like more

748
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: in a best ball environment than I am in a

749
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Speaker 4: season long environment because because there's going to just be

750
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Speaker 4: some production from those but we might not know when

751
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: that production is going to come. And so I think

752
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: that there's also like to your point of not taking

753
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: zeros like those players that we typically are like, oh,

754
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: I don't really care about that guy, because like even

755
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: in my draft guide every year, I'm just like, get

756
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: the guys that have ceiling. Only worry about ceiling, and

757
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: that's what you should be doing. But you actually do

758
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: have to think about the floor for these players and

759
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: not just draft you know, Nick Singleton over and over again,

760
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: because there's a chance that Singleton's is zero this year,

761
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Like that's a very distinct possibility.

762
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: Not to say that he can't be something.

763
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: I still have drafted him, but you have to check

764
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: yourself a little bit and make sure that you're not

765
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: overweight on some of those players.

766
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: That's the way that you kind of see things too.

767
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and I'm fine if you want to

768
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: be overweight on Nick Singleton, like call your shot on

769
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 5: these laid round guys, of course. But absolutely, I think

770
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: every single year, the staple of having good advance rates

771
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: are the middle round running back hits, like they could

772
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: be Jordan Mason, Chris Rodriguez this year, I mean we

773
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 5: saw it with like Etn. I don't know if we

774
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: want to say eight Chan Junior, but yeah, you know

775
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: Etn Javonte Williams last year. These guys were the same

776
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: exact bets, right, kind of grinder backs on kind of

777
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 5: ambiguous backfields away, I guess those Yeah, they are ambiguous. Yeah,

778
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: I would say Tooton is an ambiguous you know player

779
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 5: right now. So yeah, it's like these guys can be

780
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 5: massive advance rate pieces, so absolutely, But and then the

781
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 5: same in the same right, you can still mix in

782
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: a really fun upside pick like a Nick Singleton at

783
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 5: the end of your drafts.

784
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I always try to like balance the all right,

785
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: how how risky was I in some of these profiles

786
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: earlier on in terms of getting guys that might be

787
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: zeros And then you know, late like there was a

788
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: draft I drafted Zach Charbonnet, which I haven't gotten a

789
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 4: lot of Sharbonet, but it was a you know, he

790
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: fell whatever. And then I was contemplating, I was in

791
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: chat and actually Emo was watching, so shout out toxic tower.

792
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: But Emos was watching the stream and it was the

793
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: twentieth round, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, should

794
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: I go running back or wide receiver? And Emo is like,

795
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: you should go running And he made a great point,

796
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: like because I let the chat kind of vote which

797
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: direction I go in, and he's like, you gotta get

798
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: running back because we can't assume that Sharboney, you know,

799
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: is healthy.

800
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, he could be a zero realistically.

801
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: And so I ended up going running back in that case,

802
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: just to get a little bit more beef, you know,

803
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 4: at the position after potentially taking some of those zeros.

804
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: All right, With that being With all that being said,

805
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: what's one of the more overlooked thoughts or strategies you

806
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: think that more people should be aware of?

807
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: With best Ball?

808
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this one, I wanted to relate it to

809
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: my DK Millie Maker Finals team last year, and I'm

810
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: just gonna say it's unique pairings, I think last year

811
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 5: in this this sometimes the unique pairings come in two ways.

812
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's a forced unique pairing where I go gent

813
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 5: at the turn, but I pull up Nico Collins or

814
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: something like something where the ADPs don't line up whatsoever,

815
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 5: or if you're in a spot. And this actually happened

816
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: to me in a draft last night. But last year

817
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: I was able to go aman raw and then Puka

818
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: fell back to me. I don't remember if this was

819
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: during the Matt Stafford back problem kind of thing, but

820
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: the Amanra Puka combo last year accelerated that entire team

821
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: into the finals.

822
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 6: So I think having that.

823
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: Unique pairing can be a big lever to pull once

824
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: you get to the finals. So and this is kind

825
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: of a there's two ways to think about this, right

826
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: you can either force the unique pairing, or if you're

827
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: in the middle rounds, like if you get picked six

828
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: through nine, kind of you can almost go off of

829
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: the top of ADP. And last night I was doing

830
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: a Milli maker and I got Amanra at nine and

831
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: or ten, and then Lamb fell all the way back

832
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: to me, And in my head, I was like, that

833
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: is the exact almost the exact same feeling is how

834
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: it felt when Puka fell back to me with Amanra

835
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: on that team that got me there. So I would

836
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: say that or one other thing would be winning the

837
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: flex And I think this month might be more actionable.

838
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: But I think I think people take quarterback and tight

839
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: end too early, to be honest with you, and I

840
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 5: think grabbing the strongest possible wide receiver running backs oftentimes

841
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: make the strongest teams winning the flex. Those those those

842
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 5: two positions up at the top of the board, those

843
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: guys have the best chance of breaking out. Whereas you

844
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: can find later round quarterbacks, later round tight ends that

845
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 5: can be the big hits for the season.

846
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: So when you when you talk about unique combos and

847
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: specifically with the Millie, is that something that you're doing

848
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: immediately now or are you waiting maybe until like August

849
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: to make sure that ADP's settled.

850
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: A little bit.

851
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 6: I'm waiting till August.

852
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 5: Great question. Yeah, definitely waiting till August. We know news

853
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: can move stuff around. I would say maybe, you know,

854
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: if you're running, if you're doing all one hundred and fifty,

855
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 5: you know you get that inch during the summer, you

856
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: know it mix it up a little bit because you

857
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: don't think Nico Collins is going to move anywhere or whatever.

858
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 5: But as we know, guys get in legal trouble, they

859
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 5: get injured. You know, there's not really too many reasons

860
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 5: why guys rise all that much, but they can definitely fall,

861
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: So I do like to wait till August. I think

862
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: doing the majority of my expensive drafts, I like to

863
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: do them in August in general.

864
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do you find another thing that I and

865
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: this is completely like it's kind of related.

866
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: But if you get that like amen, ra ceedee, lambs.

867
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: Start okay, and you're like you're like, oh, this is sick,

868
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: Like this could go really really well, and like let's

869
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: say round three falls into place too, do you find

870
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: yourself and this is a completely subjective, opinionated thing, like

871
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a real answer. Maybe you feel

872
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: like there is a real answer, But do you feel

873
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: like when you get a start like that, you then

874
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: force the issue and just get your favorite plays from

875
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: then on out because you really want that lineup to

876
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: like like you're like, all right, I already hit the

877
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: jackpot early on with these first three rounds. I'm just

878
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 4: gonna get the dudes that I think are gonna hit

879
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: because obviously we have our favorites, right, I'm just gonna

880
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: get the dudes that I think are gonna hit. Therefore,

881
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: this could just be the lineup that that I'm gonna

882
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: sort of like hold on to and say this could

883
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: be the one that that brings it home this year.

884
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 6: Definitely.

885
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: I mean I think more through a like a structure standpoint.

886
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: So I'm like, Okay, I have almanrae CD Lamb, I

887
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: have the wide receiver one and two on the season, Like,

888
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: think about it like that. So then then I start

889
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: building my draft backwards. In my head, it's like, this

890
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: team obviously is gonna need running back points. Let's it's like,

891
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 5: let's just make sure this team advances because you don't

892
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: screw this up because people don't have Almanra Lamb in

893
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: the finals. They like that that combo is so rare

894
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: and unique. Like I said, it's such a big lever

895
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 5: that I'm pulling that. And you know, maybe it is

896
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: different on DraftKings. Maybe that is common. Sorry if it's not,

897
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 5: I've only done fifteen DK Millie Makers, but.

898
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: No, no, look it's not. It's not a very super

899
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: super common thing. I mean, like Lamb will fall at

900
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: times just because people on DK will be pretty wild,

901
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: you know, okay, once to turn, but it's not I

902
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: would not call it a common start.

903
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well I would just say once you get it,

904
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: just make sure you can advance it. From there, So

905
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 5: back to let's make sure we get running back points.

906
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 5: I think in the third I went with maybe ETN

907
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 5: or something, just trying to get.

908
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: Some starting running back points like that.

909
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, like ETN scat a bow in the fourth whatever,

910
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's all I'm thinking through. I'm also thinking,

911
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: like it would be super ideal to get Dak or

912
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: Golf on this team, maybe even both, like just fully

913
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: commit to those two offenses. But that's really all I'm

914
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 5: thinking is, let's let's get this team to the two

915
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: week fifteen where no one has this combo and I'm

916
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: gonna have it.

917
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's not screw it up. And I think

918
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: like it's it's also just like, let's make sure we

919
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: don't get screwed at quarterback, right and like just like

920
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: reach a little bit just to make sure that when

921
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: that quarterback run inevitably happens, that we don't screw ourselves over.

922
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: Which is my gosh, just a side rant.

923
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: I had Puoka and Devonte last night, and someone took

924
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 4: naked Stafford way above ADP.

925
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: And it's the most tilting thing on the planet.

926
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 6: It is, it absolutely is.

927
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: And to speak to your point, someone took Dak one

928
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: pick before me with no with no cowboy just on

929
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: that team in the seventh round.

930
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, although the great Adam Adam Levitan

931
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: has noted that. As tilting as those instances are, it's

932
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: great that we're drafting with people that do that because

933
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: that means that that rooms aren't a sharp right, So

934
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 4: it's yeah, when you think about that, it stings, it sucks,

935
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 4: But then you know, you fall back on that idea

936
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: and you're like, all right, I'll take it over the

937
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: long run.

938
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my earlier point.

939
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: It's also like it opened up this ability to be like,

940
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: all right, it's still the seventh round, Like, let me

941
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 5: take another usable running back here. I can get Jalen Warren,

942
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: who might be this year's Kenneth Gainwell on this thin instead,

943
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: So let's go that route one hundred percent.

944
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 4: I had this discussion last week on becoming a best

945
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: ball brow with Rich Ryan to open up the show,

946
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: and I want to hear your thoughts because you know,

947
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: in fantasy football space, especially as touts and as analysts,

948
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: everyone wants rankings and we know that, and so we

949
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: produce them and we you know, give them out and whatever.

950
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: And in my opinion with Best Ball.

951
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: My opinion was Bestball rankings are generally probably a little

952
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: bit overrated in the way that the average player looks

953
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: at them. Would you agree with that statement or do

954
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: you think that they might be underrated.

955
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say they're underrated.

956
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: I do think they can be useful though, because I

957
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: think what rankings allow you to do is see who

958
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 5: people are really out on more so that people are into.

959
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: I think that's a good way to look at it,

960
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: because you know, I don't really want to take a

961
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: guy fifteen spots ahead adp if I don't have to,

962
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: especially in the early rounds, like we can push the

963
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 5: guy to his regular spot most of the time.

964
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: But like.

965
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: You know, I've seen rankings that worked really well. I

966
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: think like twenty twenty four, Michael Pittman was like, you know,

967
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: a fourth round pick, but a lot of people's rankings

968
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: had him as like a seventh round pick. It's like, okay,

969
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 5: that's a good like full fade, Like that's you know,

970
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: So I think rankings work really well for fading, and

971
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: I think they work well for maybe later round guys

972
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: that you should be getting a bag of.

973
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, really is kind of view them but he should

974
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 6: be tiered.

975
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: If they could be perfect, they would be tiered, right,

976
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 5: Because it's like I try to do rankings one time

977
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: and I was just like, well, yeah, I have Hampton

978
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: like or whatever. You know, It's like, yeah, I like

979
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: Hampton over Derrick Henry. But at the same time, I'm like, dude,

980
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry could bury you.

981
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 4: So yes, yeah, right, it's a fifty one to forty

982
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: nine type thing if yact.

983
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 5: But how do I articulate that in this ranking that

984
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 5: you're downloading?

985
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean tiers are huge for my process

986
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 4: for sure, especially like the fourth round wideouts this year,

987
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: Like they're all to me.

988
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: There's just so much upside.

989
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: Like I am a like a Luther Burden Truther, so

990
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: I'm getting him every time he falls for the most part. Right,

991
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: But like regardless, like I U, I don't have like

992
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: insanely strong opinions. My opinion is, if you're in like

993
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: an auction draft for season long, just just completely gobble

994
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: up a lot of those dudes and and don't worry

995
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: about the early run guys, because you can just get

996
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 4: so much value with that that tier of wide receiver.

997
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: A question that I get very frequently by best ball

998
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: bro Listeners is how to determine exposure to players.

999
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Do you personally set a hard cap.

1000
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: Do you think that there's like a general like formulaic

1001
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: way to do this or do you think it's more

1002
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: of like a case by case how you are individually

1003
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: from a risk tolerance perspective.

1004
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely a risk tolerance thing, right, Like if

1005
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 5: you and like you know, this is one of those

1006
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: years that you could do something like this, Like if

1007
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: you wanted thirty percent Puka Nakua because you think he's

1008
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: the best wide receiver in the NFL and you want

1009
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 5: to have that lever on most of your teams.

1010
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: You can take him at.

1011
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 5: The one oh one, one oh two, one oh three,

1012
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: one oh four, so you can you can do something

1013
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: like that. That is crazy risk tolerance though, because you're

1014
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: fading gives Beijan Jamar chase, right. So the main thing

1015
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 5: I would say is, once again, I think I think

1016
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 5: having in the early rounds, I think for me personally,

1017
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: it's about a twenty percent cap on certain players I

1018
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 5: think would be realistic if I had to guestimate. But

1019
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: I think as you get later into the drafts, I

1020
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: think I think if you believe in a Jeremy Bernard

1021
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 5: or something like that. With these lower cost guys, you know,

1022
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 5: back to that auction thing. These guys only cost you

1023
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: a dollar or two. So if they flop, who cares.

1024
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 6: Kind of a thing.

1025
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 5: But if you really believe in them, yeah, take them

1026
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: on half your teams if you want. It's not going

1027
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: to kill you, even if they're a zero. But if

1028
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: if you have a full stance on whatever, I don't

1029
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: even know you're taking Rashie Rice in the second round

1030
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 5: every time and he gets hurt or whatever, like, yeah,

1031
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: there goes most of your season.

1032
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do you have Do you have like how

1033
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: many guys over twenty percent? Do you think you'll be

1034
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: at this year like or per season, like just.

1035
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Just generally at all positions? Yeah, yeah probably.

1036
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 6: Or like two tight ends, three or four.

1037
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 5: It's probably like almost ten, So not like a crazy amount,

1038
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 5: but yeah, that's pretty standard for me.

1039
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 6: I do build, you know, I do.

1040
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: I definitely believe that this This is such a crazy

1041
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 5: game of variants and stuff, so I don't course, I

1042
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 5: don't flag plant too much, but I have like a

1043
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 5: grouping of guys that I really like. At the end

1044
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 5: of drafts, and I'll have, you know, a nice twenty

1045
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: percent of all of them or whatever.

1046
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1047
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: There have been some players recently overrun DraftKings that have

1048
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: been steamed up a good bit in ADP, and I

1049
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: want to go through them. There's four guys I want

1050
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: to talk through and hear your take on them. The

1051
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: first one is Jay Flowers, who you know, a month

1052
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: ago you could get pretty frequently in round four or

1053
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: at least at the three four turn.

1054
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: But now he goes at the two three turns sometimes.

1055
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean people will bring him up.

1056
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 6: There.

1057
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: Are you in or out on Zay this year?

1058
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1059
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: I know, I mean I've definitely seen that man. I

1060
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 5: he I'm like, I want to say neutral because he's

1061
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: such a good talent. I love Decklan Doyle coming over

1062
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 5: to the Ravens offense. I think we're gonna get like

1063
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: this new revamped Lamar jackson S season could be an

1064
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 5: MVP type season. But at the end of the day,

1065
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 5: I mean, we still have Derek Henry scoring most of

1066
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: the touchdowns. You have Lamar rushing in the touchdowns. You

1067
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 5: have Mark Andrews who's a red zone threat. They do

1068
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: bring in some competition. I would just be hesitant at

1069
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 5: these prices. One thing that happens in Best Ball every

1070
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: single year is sometimes T Higgins and Jalen Watta will

1071
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: be like two three turn picks, and DeVonta Smith will

1072
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: be too, and then they fall down to the.

1073
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 6: Fourth round, late fourth round.

1074
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 5: Like these guys move up and down the board really

1075
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: heavily based on how they performed the prior year. And

1076
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 5: Flowers did have a great twenty twenty five season. But

1077
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 5: I would say I like him as an upside play

1078
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: or like a like a weekly upside play, but as

1079
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: a season long advance rate piece, I actually think it's

1080
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: probably not that strong because I don't really I don't

1081
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 5: personally see how he can go too much higher than

1082
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 5: what he did last year. I think he has to

1083
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: kind of repeat what he did last year to be

1084
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 5: viable with that price.

1085
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, it's like I I almost

1086
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 4: feel like like that some of the fourth round picks

1087
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: are just as good as the third round picks, Like

1088
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: like it's it's there's just not such a significant so

1089
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: I can like understand pulling him up. But I yeah,

1090
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: I mean like there's definitely especially like the touchdown stuff

1091
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: because he's not been an end zone threat, Like he

1092
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: doesn't get any end zone targets, doesn't get any red

1093
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 4: zone targets. You gotta hope that it changes. And I'm

1094
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 4: higher than the market on Zay in general this year.

1095
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean like there's definitely some like red

1096
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: flag type stuff, you know, with his profile overall.

1097
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on to AJ Brown, who went from

1098
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: being a.

1099
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 4: Like mid third round pick often to then being traded,

1100
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 4: which we all knew was gonna happen. Like I wish

1101
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: I would have gotten way more. I did not read

1102
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: that room well at all, even though I knew it

1103
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: was coming.

1104
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Like I knew that he was going to rise a

1105
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: little bit.

1106
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: I just didn't expect him to rise to sometimes the

1107
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: early second round from that third round price.

1108
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: So are you enter out on AJ Brown right now?

1109
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 5: It's so weird you think the market bakes it in

1110
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: and they never do. They never do, So I yeah,

1111
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: I did luckily grab a ton of AJ Brown while

1112
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 5: I could. He's, yeah, the second round pick, and I

1113
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 5: think I'm in. I want to find a guy that

1114
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 5: I like enough to break up that running back cluster.

1115
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: And I saw him at ADP sixteen when I did

1116
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: that Millimaker last night, and you know, I was like,

1117
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: I think it makes sense. I think you lose to

1118
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 5: Von Diggs. I think Drake May is one of the

1119
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: best passing quarterbacks in the NFL, hands down, and I

1120
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: think the target volume could be there, the efficiency of

1121
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 5: the offense could be there. And you know, I do

1122
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: have this fundamental belief that people are taking too much

1123
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 5: early running back this season. I think, so pulling these

1124
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: these strong wide receiver levers once again, I do think

1125
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: is a is a fine option. It's your point about like,

1126
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: you know, people getting him in the third before and

1127
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 5: now he's in the second. I don't think that really

1128
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: matters too much on the you know what, maybe ten

1129
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: to fifteen percent of the contest was drafted when he

1130
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: was a third round pick. And also he probably wasn't

1131
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: falling to the late third. So all the teams that

1132
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: have like, you know, a gentee starter or a CD

1133
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: LAMB start probably don't have AJ Brown on them for

1134
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 5: the most part.

1135
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was also I also think like when

1136
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: it comes to that kind of thing, and I know

1137
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: that people have stronger opinions than I do on this,

1138
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: but I also think, like when AJ Brown had a

1139
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 4: decreased cost when he was a third round pick. At

1140
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 4: that point in time, we also didn't necessarily have as

1141
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 4: much information as what we're going to have in August

1142
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: to like boost up some other players, So like you

1143
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: really have to have had I mean, look, you can

1144
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: you can draft some crazy teams in May, right, like

1145
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: you can you can draft some crazy teams in early June.

1146
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: I get all of that, but I don't want to

1147
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: overstate what that means because you you you have to

1148
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: actually do that, and it's not the easiest thing in

1149
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 4: the world, and there's some luck involved right in doing that.

1150
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: So it's not the easiest thing in the world to do. So.

1151
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: Admittedly with AJ Brown, like I'm not against drafting him,

1152
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: I often am gravitating towards the running backs. But to

1153
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: your point, I'm trying hard to differentiate my my structures,

1154
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: my roster construction this year because a lot of people

1155
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: are just kind of like an autopilot just going like

1156
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: RBRB in that area of the draft, and that that

1157
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: I think is the way to not do.

1158
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: It right is to just to get AJ Brown.

1159
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 5: So and I don't want it to be overlooked, like

1160
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 5: AJ Brown could have one hundred and sixty targets this season, right,

1161
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 5: they really could feed him and he's he has not

1162
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 5: slowed down whatsoever in that Mett. I think people are

1163
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: really traumatized from the Eagles experience with him.

1164
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, you're seeing it with with Jalen Hurts,

1165
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: ADP and stuff right now.

1166
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 6: That's what is crazy too. It is way too cheap.

1167
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 6: He's way too cheap.

1168
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: Like I understand if you don't like that he doesn't

1169
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: throw over the middle of the field or whatever.

1170
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 6: But take Jalen Hurts in the seventh round when you

1171
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 6: see him.

1172
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Agreed, how about Bashall Tuton?

1173
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 4: He's rising a little bit because of the Chris Rodriguez stuff,

1174
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: are you? I mean, I feel like this is the

1175
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: great divide of the of fantasy football in twenty twenty.

1176
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Are you in or out on Bashall?

1177
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm I want to be in, but I'm kind of

1178
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 5: out for the most part. I mean, I'm looking at

1179
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: Trevion Henderson, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Bucky Irving, there's even another

1180
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 5: DeAndre Swift. All these guys go right around where he goes,

1181
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 5: and I prefer all of those guys to him. So

1182
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard for me to get to Baychell Tuton.

1183
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 5: You know, I get it. We really like the Jaguars offense.

1184
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: But I think you're paying this premium price right now

1185
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 5: based on the Chris Rodriguez foot injury thing we saw. Well,

1186
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 5: for one, there's a report that he's gonna be totally

1187
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: fine for training camp, so he might Tuton might literally

1188
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 5: fall back to the five to six turn or even

1189
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 5: the sixth round. Then you just factor in that he

1190
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 5: just couldn't get himself on the field last season, Like

1191
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 5: that's that's not good for me. I don't view etn

1192
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 5: as like this guy that you can never take off

1193
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 5: the field, and Tuton couldn't even do it last year,

1194
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: So I don't love that. So I think you're paying

1195
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: a premium and you're really hoping for this mega efficiency

1196
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 5: and touchdowns. But I think I think he's gonna get cheaper.

1197
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 5: So from a market based game, I think you know

1198
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: draft him in August when he's a six round pick.

1199
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 5: I don't see how he keeps moving up, but if

1200
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 5: he does, I probably won't have much of him. As

1201
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 5: much as I want the Jaguars running back, I think

1202
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: I just I'd go somewhere else with it.

1203
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: It feels like there's a better chance than not that

1204
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez is like, we're not going to get to

1205
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: training camp, and Chris Rodriguez is like, oh, his foot's

1206
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: falling like a Joe Mixon situation or something like that.

1207
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: Right where it's like, like, so, I think, probability wise,

1208
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: you're probably right that Tutin could then just immediately see

1209
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: a lower price. And if you're playing the long game here, right,

1210
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: if if you're drafting in May through August and you

1211
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 4: want to just capture as much CLV as possible, then

1212
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: it would make sense to just kind of wait on

1213
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: bashall if you're not if you're not d like I liked,

1214
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 4: like I was a Tootin' truth through as it from

1215
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: him as a prospect, I think that in season long

1216
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: he's a target because of the way that other platforms

1217
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: have him ranked stuff, because Bestball ADP is.

1218
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: Not the same as season long ADP.

1219
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 4: It's just like, go look at what's going on over

1220
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: at ESPN, et cetera.

1221
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 6: It's differ where do they got him.

1222
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: He's more of like closer to like the twenty five

1223
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: to thirty range running back, whereas here he's more of

1224
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 4: like the twenty to twenty three ish range, right, And

1225
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: that to me is enough of a difference to be like, yeah,

1226
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like now you're almost definitely getting him as

1227
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: a as an RB three type in season long, which

1228
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: I think is perfect for a player like Tuton. Like

1229
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: if you go running back, running back, that's where I

1230
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: feel more confident in getting a player like base All Turton,

1231
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: because now you have that installation. But if you're not

1232
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: going that direction, it's a little bit more difficult to

1233
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: you know, rely on him in that way, especially in

1234
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: basketball with what we had just talked about, you know,

1235
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 4: and wanting to to not have take Zeros, et cetera.

1236
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I mean there's just different prices, you know,

1237
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: in these different platforms and stuff.

1238
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: And right now I'm a I'm a toutin truther and

1239
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm not even going like ham with this price right now.

1240
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like and I like the profile, like you said, right,

1241
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 5: And I'll say this much, I wish I took a

1242
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 5: lot more when he was in that like seventh eighth

1243
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 5: round in the pre draft stuff.

1244
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: That was the that was the time to buy.

1245
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 5: But they also came out and there was a giant

1246
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 5: report about how they wanted JK. Dobbins this offseason, and

1247
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 5: the Broncos swooped in first and got him, So clearly

1248
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 5: they're like looking for other running back help. They were

1249
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: not planning on giving this guy, you know, two hundred

1250
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 5: and eighty carries this season.

1251
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1252
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: But what do you think of this take? I had

1253
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: this take with the JK.

1254
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 4: Dobbins thing where everyone has tied Chris Rodriguez to Liam

1255
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Cohen because they have a history, right because he played

1256
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: with him in Kentucky, and Chris Rodriguez was hand picked.

1257
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: But doesn't the JK.

1258
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: Dobbins report say the opposite of that that he wasn't

1259
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: that Chris Rodriguez like wasn't there because they were, look,

1260
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 4: they were gonna add somebody, and maybe JK. Dobbins was

1261
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: the top guy that they wanted to add, And I

1262
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: think that that would obviously impact, like maybe the way

1263
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: they viewed twotant. But overall I'm reading this report, the

1264
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 4: natural response is like, oh, they don't like Beasehall Tuton.

1265
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I think the response might be that, like,

1266
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: they don't really like Chris Rodriguez the way that Peopothy.

1267
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: You know, in the sad part is is like.

1268
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 5: The fact that I am saying not to take Tuton

1269
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 5: because of Chris Rodriguez really upsets me, honestly, because, like

1270
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 5: I think Chris Rodriguez is very good whatsoever. Right, I

1271
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: just worry because Trevor Lawrence had like nine rushing touchdown.

1272
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: I just want yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, I

1273
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 5: just worry that Tuton won't score that much. But maybe

1274
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 5: he will.

1275
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: I you know, it's a fair.

1276
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: Look.

1277
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 5: I like your third, your third running back. Take that's

1278
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: a fun get him as your third. Yeah, that seems fun.

1279
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: That's what I've been trying to do mostly. And then

1280
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: obviously I'm doing enough drafts that I can just wait

1281
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: till he falls. You know, I'm not I'm not at

1282
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 4: the four like I'm still in the wide receiver tier

1283
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: at that four or five turn area.

1284
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 6: Yeah right, Yeah, we're taking Adda.

1285
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: Into Jaalen Waddle and these guys who we know are

1286
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: just good, especially on a full PPR platform. But if

1287
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: he's like five six turn then yeah, like I'll especially

1288
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: because in that area you're typically going running back, running

1289
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: back or oftentimes you're going running back back, and so

1290
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 4: he is your RB three and it's a lot easier.

1291
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: Not only that, but if you get Touton in the

1292
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: back half of the fifth and into the sixth, that's

1293
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: also Trevor Lawrence Range in the in the seventh and

1294
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: eighth like where he will generally go. So you can

1295
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: like start Stack and Jags getting Parker Washington or Brian Thomas,

1296
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: however we want to do it. So like that's kind

1297
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: of the approach I've taken with Tooton is that I'm

1298
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: not fading him by any means.

1299
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of picking and choosing where I end

1300
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: up getting him.

1301
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 6: That's fair.

1302
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: I do the same thing with Trevon Henderson, who have

1303
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 5: a huge stand on this year. So and I do

1304
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 5: like him when he is my third running back. I

1305
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 5: think he has that hammer ability to win you any

1306
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: week possible. And so as a third, you know, maybe

1307
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: maybe more up and down throughout the season, though with

1308
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: Ramandre still there of course.

1309
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: All right, the last guy I want to touch on,

1310
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like like an etr effect

1311
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: or something, because I think Silva's high on or like

1312
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 4: moved him up his rankings a whole lot. But Quentin

1313
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: Johnston was, like I swear, like a ninth or tenth

1314
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: round pick one day, and then the next day he

1315
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: on draftings with a six seven turn player out of

1316
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: like literally in like a forty eight hour period. So

1317
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: where are you at with QJ right now?

1318
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: I was shocked. I saw him go in the sixth

1319
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: round yesterday.

1320
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 6: I'm out. I'm out on that price. I don't I

1321
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 6: don't get it. He's not.

1322
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: He doesn't have the full PPR kind of scammy thing

1323
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 5: to him, so he's not gonna be this dominant target earner.

1324
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: His whole thing is based on like his yak ability.

1325
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: I guess, but no, I am. I'm out on the

1326
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 5: sixth round. I don't think you're gonna I don't think

1327
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 5: he's better than lad. I don't think you're ever gonna

1328
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: be the wide receiver one on the Chargers. I think

1329
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 5: the Chargers inherently also want to run the absolute crap

1330
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: out of the ball. They have everything in their power

1331
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 5: to do that. Blocking full back, blocking tight end, one

1332
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: of the best of lines in the league, two really

1333
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 5: good running backs. I think you're just paying for a

1334
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 5: very expensive, inconsistent spike week guy like I dare to say,

1335
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 5: I'd like take Rashid Shahi or something.

1336
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, The interesting thing with QJ is that if you

1337
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 4: want to, like I try to like arbitrage a little

1338
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: bit with season long right where sure, if I'm out

1339
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: on a guy in Best Ball or if I don't

1340
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: like his price, you can look at season long and

1341
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: see his price totally different in season long with QJ.

1342
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 4: If you guys want QJ exposure, my recommendation would be dry.

1343
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a tart. He's actually a dart throw

1344
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: in the draft guy this year spoiler alert because he

1345
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: goes after wide receiver fifty on an ADP, on all

1346
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: these other platforms. And so if you want to get

1347
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 4: QJ exposure, do it in season long. I think he's

1348
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: a great season long pick because there's some outs for him,

1349
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: and there's especially if you're in more of a half

1350
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: PPR environment, like you said, like I, I like the

1351
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: fit from a yact perspective all of that.

1352
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: But if you're taking QJ in the.

1353
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: Same range as these elite quarterbacks and like somebody like,

1354
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy to me, it's wild, and maybe maybe

1355
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: we're idiots at the end of the year, but I

1356
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: just I don't I don't see it right now.

1357
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 6: You know, through week five. Last year, I felt like

1358
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 6: an idiot.

1359
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 5: Son, dude, I've been burned by QJ so bad I had.

1360
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 5: He was my most drafted player, one of my most

1361
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 5: drafts players his rookie season. Yeah, and then I was

1362
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 5: so burned. I was like, I'm never drafting you again.

1363
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 5: And then sophomore year just goes off as a fifteenth

1364
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 5: round pick. So yeah, I feel yah, I don't want

1365
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: to be chasing the dragon there.

1366
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 4: Speaking of fades, do you have any pretty hard fades

1367
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: in the in the early rounds this year?

1368
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 6: I do.

1369
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 5: I have a I have a pretty strong fade on

1370
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor right now, which does freak me out because

1371
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 5: we know, yeah, he's got he has the ability to

1372
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 5: drop forty every single week. He is one of the

1373
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 5: most talented running backs in the NFL. But I'm I

1374
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 5: have the same feeling that this is kind of what

1375
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 5: happened with like Saquon last year. You know, Saquon in

1376
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four had like six or like five sixty

1377
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 5: yard touchdown runs. It was the the Eagles franchise record

1378
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 5: of fifty yards or maybe the NFL record honestly, of

1379
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 5: these touchdown runs, and I feel like Taylor did that

1380
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 5: you did great last year with that, but you're coming

1381
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 5: into an offense that has a quarterback with a torn achilles.

1382
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 5: The backup is Riley Leonard, who I don't think is

1383
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: very good. Or maybe it's Richardson. I'm not even sure there,

1384
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 5: but either way, I don't think it's a great situation.

1385
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: And I also think the Colts just got off to

1386
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 5: this extremely hot start that is not going to be

1387
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: repeatable for the most part, I think, and he could

1388
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 5: bury me like he could you need Jonathan Taylor against

1389
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: the Browns week seventeen potentially. Yeah, So that's where I'm like,

1390
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 5: you know, I'm definitely going to mix in some Taylor

1391
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 5: at the end of my maybe at the end of

1392
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: August once I can see how many Taylor teams I

1393
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 5: have basically, but yeah, from an advance rate perspective, I

1394
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 5: don't think that I'm gonna want Jonathan Taylor.

1395
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you look at his splits from week one

1396
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 4: to week ten last year, which is when he like

1397
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: everyone is sort of like anchored to what he did.

1398
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: You know, during that stretch, he averaged like twenty seven

1399
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 4: and a half PPR points per game. It was crazy,

1400
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: like he was he was going absolutely nuts. And I

1401
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: think that people look at like the other split you know,

1402
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 4: out of this, you know, past week ten, and they

1403
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: assumed that, oh, that was just because Daniel Jones was out,

1404
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: but even the next three games after that split, because

1405
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 4: I think it was that Falcons game that was overseas

1406
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 4: where he like went nuts, went absolutely ham Jonathan Taylor did.

1407
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: And then after that game he averaged like twelve PPR

1408
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: points per game for three weeks, and then Daniel Jones

1409
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: went down and he averaged thirteen point three PPR points

1410
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 4: per game down the stretch, which really like, again, we

1411
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: know the ceiling is there, but also I'm not sitting here.

1412
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to bet on Indianapolis.

1413
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: Literally, they were the best team in touchdowns per game

1414
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 4: through that the first ten weeks last year.

1415
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 5: And that's crazy, right, Like they were the best team

1416
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Like, if you had a through Week eight,

1417
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 5: if you had the Super Bowl odds, it was probably

1418
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: Colts to go to the Super Bowl.

1419
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: Right, right, And and Daniel Jones now coming off the

1420
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: Achilles and you know, just general regression, Like I think

1421
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor's a general fade this year just because he's

1422
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 4: placed in a tear, you're above the Gentes and even

1423
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 4: like the James Cooks, if you want to throw him

1424
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 4: in there, if if he does end up catching more

1425
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 4: passes like the reports are saying or whomever, I think

1426
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: he's just in the same tier as these guys, even

1427
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 4: like a like, are you going to be shocked if

1428
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: like Chase Brown outscores Jonathan Taylor this year in full PPR.

1429
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 5: NO, I think after CMC goes, I think you kind

1430
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 5: of enter a very flat tier honestly, all the way

1431
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: down to Chase Brown. Henry yeaheah, totally agree, totally agree.

1432
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 5: When you're looking late in drafts, who are who are

1433
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 5: you targeting frequently? Right now, my most drafted player actually

1434
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 5: is a late round quarterback. So it's Fanda Mendoza. I

1435
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 5: don't know if this because it is late, but oh,

1436
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: that's late any anytime. We've basically found out over the

1437
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 5: last few seasons that the sims absolutely agree with three quarterbacks,

1438
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 5: especially on the twenty round DraftKings. We so it's like,

1439
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 5: let's pull the lever of rookie mystery box Mendoza. But

1440
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 5: also the mystery box isn't much of a mystery. This

1441
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: is like the Heisman winner, Championship Indiana quarterback who is

1442
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 5: you know, he's a beast. Like physically, he's huge, which

1443
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 5: I love. He's got all the quarterback skill sets for

1444
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 5: the physical aspect, but he also has a rushing side

1445
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 5: to him, which I think people underestimate.

1446
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 6: I think his ability.

1447
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 5: He's like maybe not like obviously Lamar or anything like that,

1448
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 5: but he's got like a Trevor Lawrence in him where

1449
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 5: you get around the goal line, and this guy's got

1450
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 5: a nose for the end zone. So when I can

1451
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 5: take that third quarterback who I know is going to

1452
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 5: be starting at the end of the season. Yes, I

1453
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 5: do not think Kirk is playing the whole season. You know,

1454
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if there are Kirk Truthers out there

1455
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 5: that think he is. But you factor Clint Kubiak to

1456
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 5: absolutely elite, elite weapons with Bowers and Gentee that you

1457
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 5: can throw the ball to, and his ability to run

1458
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: in touchdowns at after pick one P seventy right now

1459
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 5: is a fantastic lever to pull in my opinion. And

1460
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 5: then on top of that, Week sixteen he plays the

1461
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 5: Titans in a dome, and in Week seventeen he plays

1462
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 5: the Cardinals in the dumb. So if you have Mendoza

1463
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 5: by week sixteen on a playoff best ball team, you

1464
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 5: are I think you're feeling so good about your chances.

1465
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that call.

1466
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: I think that that's one of the uh you know,

1467
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: in going three quarterback if you get two pretty established

1468
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 4: guys where you're like, I could just settle here and

1469
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 4: be done. That quarterback like he's been one that I

1470
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: just kind of tag on, especially if I got Bauers early,

1471
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: it's easy or.

1472
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 6: Just a cardinal. If you took Jeremiah Love for McBride,

1473
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 6: just have the bringback.

1474
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally agree. That's a great call. Love that all.

1475
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 4: Right, Before I let you go, give me give me

1476
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 4: a bold take for this twenty twenty six season.

1477
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 5: Bold take for this twenty twenty sixth season. I'm I'm

1478
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 5: going to say, man, yeah, it's like you can go

1479
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 5: a bunch of different directions. You do a player take,

1480
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 5: do a macro take. Let's do a macro take. I'm

1481
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: going to say wide receivers matter. I think people are

1482
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 5: completely out of the loop with what they're doing at

1483
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 5: wide receiver. I think the fact that people can look

1484
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 5: down at a roster and think that Jalen Cokers your

1485
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 5: wide receiver four, but I have all these awesome quarterbacks,

1486
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 5: and running backs is not the way to play. People

1487
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 5: are overdrafting quarterback early. They're even taking potentially too many

1488
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 5: running backs if you hit on the mid the ambiguous

1489
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 5: round running backs, Like every single year there is Washington, Minnesota,

1490
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: Tennessee a bunch of different ambiguous running back rooms this season,

1491
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 5: to where you can just take your anchor early, maybe

1492
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: double anchor if you want, and then wait a little bit.

1493
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 5: That is the way to play. Even Broncos. Now, the

1494
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 5: first Broncos running back goes off round eight. That's an

1495
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 5: awesome running back room. So there's that, and I would

1496
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: just say get your strong wide receivers early. They do matter.

1497
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 5: When you are looking down at a team in week fifteen,

1498
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 5: Week sixteen, you don't want to see Jalen Cokers, your

1499
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 5: wide receiver four that you need a big game out

1500
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 5: of that week when you have to beat one in

1501
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 5: fifteen people in the pot or whatever you want to.

1502
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 5: You want to look down and see like, okay, sick,

1503
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 5: maybe this team barely advanced at a heart of time,

1504
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 5: but now I'm looking down at Jamar Chase Nico Collins, Rice,

1505
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 5: and my running backs are still good enough to where

1506
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 5: they can they're they're obviously good enough because this team

1507
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 5: advanced kind of thing.

1508
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's what I that's what I would say.

1509
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I also think that, like this is a really good

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Speaker 4: year to mix up your structural drafting and like don't

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Speaker 4: be super rigid with like just doing the same thing

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,480
Speaker 4: over Not only have I learned through doing this that

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Speaker 4: that's just a really easy way to like get your

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01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: exposure in a good place right by not just doing

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: the same thing over and over again. Because if you're

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Speaker 4: just drafting running backs early over and over again, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have zero AJ Brown. You're gonna have zero Drake London.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna you're just not gonna have these guys who

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Speaker 4: we know objectively are real. Like I even look at

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01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 4: my portfolio sometimes I'm like, oh crap, I don't have

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Speaker 4: nearly enough Drake London right now, even though I don't

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Speaker 4: like love London this year in a situation compared to

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Speaker 4: other guys, but I'm like, I understand that he has

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Speaker 4: that outcome of just destroying in a playoff week because

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Speaker 4: it's Drake freaking London, right, especially in a full PPR platform,

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just really it's a great call out.

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Speaker 4: Like it's very easy to listen to shows like this

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Speaker 4: and be like, all right, it's optimal to go running back,

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Speaker 4: running back and then to you know, do whatever you

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: want with these middle round quarterbacks and stuff. But like

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Speaker 4: you you can't let wide receiver fall aside because it

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01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 4: is still a very very important position.

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Speaker 6: Exactly. Yep, that's that's really about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then back to the earlier point is like

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Speaker 5: you know, put put Drake London on a gent team.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you have to start wide receiver, wide receiver,

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 5: take an anchor running back, and then pound wide receiver

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 5: like have have your wide receiver five or six or sorry,

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 5: wide receiver five be something really fun, like maybe it's

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 5: a Makai Lemon in the eighth round. Yeah, so you're

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 5: looking down down the stretches, getting more targets than than

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01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 5: Smith or whatever, like in you you're advancing that team

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 5: that could be that could be a really fun squad

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Speaker 5: for you.

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: So yeah, love that call out, BBG man. Let everyone

1548
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: know where they can find you and and what you

1549
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: guys are doing. Over the Toxic Tower. What you're doing

1550
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 4: on your YouTube channel, just just shout it all out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you JJ, thanks for having me. It's been great.

1552
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 5: We are live on the Best Ball Guy YouTube channel.

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01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 5: Just type in best Ball Guy and you'll find it.

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 5: I go live twice a week where I do three

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Speaker 5: hours plus of live best ball drafting. I'm also on

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 5: a show that is I don't really know how to

1557
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: even describe toalksower. Maybe JJ can do a better version

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01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 5: than me, but it's like a comedy show yet analytical show.

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Speaker 6: For Best Ball as well, called the Toxic Tower. It is.

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Speaker 5: It is a fantastic time. We do that show, one

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Speaker 5: public show a week and then also one member's only

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Speaker 5: show a week for five dollars. You can become a

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Speaker 5: member over there, So go check it out, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: if you search Toxic Tower on YouTube or Best Ball

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Speaker 5: Guy on YouTube, you should come across that.

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Speaker 4: I think that Toxic Tower is great because in the

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: fantasy football space, you don't find a lot of shows

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: where people are just like openly disagreeing with one another.

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Speaker 1: And you guys are all.

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Speaker 4: Buddies and like, you can you can do that openly

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 4: and not trash.

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: But just say like, you know, you're not being smart

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Speaker 1: with this.

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Speaker 4: Take whatever, and you guys can can you know, give

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01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 4: each other crap for it, but it allows the from

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 4: a user perspective and a watcher perspective, it's very entertaining.

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: But also like we need more of that, just general debate.

1578
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: I think, like I'm guilty of it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I have people on the show all the time where

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: they say something and I might disagree with it, and

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 4: I try to push back a little bit. But it's

1583
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 4: not always the easiest thing to do. But when you're

1584
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: comfortable with that person and those people, it's a lot

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 4: easier to do it and have fun with it. So

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Speaker 4: I would definitely check out the Toxic Tower. All great guy,

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Speaker 4: PPR Tyler, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Still kind of iffy.

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 6: We're still coming around to him.

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: As always, guys, make sure you check out Late Round

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01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 4: dot com. The Late Round Draft Guide will be out

1593
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: on Friday, actually probably Thursday night, so if you go

1594
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: pre order that now, you will get it. There's weekly updates,

1595
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 4: you get rankings and tiers, there's tons of game theory stuff.

1596
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 4: I'm finished writing it. We're in sort of the editing

1597
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 4: phase right now. And it's going to be about three

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Speaker 4: hundred pages long. It is a is a very very

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Speaker 4: beastly guy. It's the longest and most in depth that

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Speaker 4: I've done, so check it all out lateround dot com. Otherwise, everyone,

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Speaker 4: thanks for tuning in.