WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Everson Walls Edition 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.360 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:16.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:21.520 Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:33.120 the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.159 and Bill Jones, and welcome to a Tuesday edition of 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.800 Talking Cowboys here at the Star in Frisco inside the 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:46.559 SWBC Mortgage Studios. Okay, we introduced Mickey, and we introduced Rob, 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.480 and we introduced Bill, and we've got a special guest 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.240 in studio as well. We got Cobby in studio. Also, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.840 Everson Walls joins us, how you doing? Ever said you're 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.560 doing good? Man. I was on a tour self got 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.760 of tour and I found myself in here. Man, I'll 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.600 see you guys. I decided, you know, I was going 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:10.400 through people's draws and stuff. You know, what a great 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.040 week to have Everson Walls in here because he played 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.280 for Bill Belichick once upon a time. It's good timing't 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.720 I didn't think about that? Yes, yes, yeah, he's a 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.440 different Belichick now. Oh yeah, yeah he's not the same. Different. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:29.600 He's like power hungry, scary. He wasn't that scary back 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.880 in back in New York. I mean he when you 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:37.160 got there, he just got started, right. He was part 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.560 of the eighty six Super Bowl. Yeah, okay, so he 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.920 was that. I'm pretty sure he was a coordinator, yes, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.520 for that team, young coordinator. Yeah, and you know back then, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.720 you know, he didn't have a great hair. You know, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.640 he just looked a little younger, like you know what. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.240 He even interviews too. I remember going there in eighty 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.000 five or eighty six to do a story on the Giants. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.480 I was in the locker room. He came walking by 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.080 and it's like, Bill, can I ask you a couple 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.800 of questions? And kind of looked at Parcels. And that's 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.880 the most amazing part of it. Parcels let him do 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.640 and he actually answered a couple of questions that really well, 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.440 he couldn't wait, and I was naive. I didn't know, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.240 you know that, No, that he didn't talk or Parcels 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.640 didn't let guys talk, you know. So, Yeah, he's had 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.120 a crazy path. Jerry talked about him on the radio 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.359 this morning on the fan of this pretty funny story. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.240 Found him in a ski lodge that ran into him. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.040 He was he just got off the slopes and he 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.880 at the time he was looking for a job because 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.640 he got let go by Cleveland, and he said, Jerry 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.760 can keep me in mind. Only let go, I mean, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.920 but he was the head coach there at Cleveland. Let go, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.880 and it's worked out well for you. Well, when you 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.560 say let go, I mean the whole team like that, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.600 you say let go, I mean you know, at least 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.320 he didn't disintegrate with the Browns. Jerry said he was 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.560 in line to rent skis for his grandkids and he goes, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.160 guy behind me, it's got all his stuff on, and 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.520 he goes, hey, I'm Bill Belichicks. You don't you know 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.680 what job he found shortly thereafter that, you know, with 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.079 the New England Patriots. Patriots. Yeah, with the Patriots in fact, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.000 not just back with the Patriots, he was That was 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.720 his first time with the Page ninety six. He became 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.280 the assistant head coach and defensive backs coach, and then 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.160 the next year the Jets for three years, and then 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.120 head coach starting in two thousand. Yeah, that's that's when 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.520 he and plus Sells had their little because he was 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.079 supposed to take over for pers Sales vouched for him. Yes, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.400 you know, like I'm the gem. Yeah, I got this in. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.240 I got this, guys, don't worry about it. I got 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.600 this in my back pocket. And Belichick's like, na, I 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.000 don't think else. I think he was worried about the 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.680 sale of the team. He wasn't really good. It wasn't 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.800 really He had gone through this whole team disintegration thing 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.240 with the Browns. If I'm not mistaken, his kids were 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.040 being threatened in he had they had to have you know, 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.320 arm security guards. Wow. Yeah, picking the kids up from school, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.000 taking the school pick them up from school. He didn't 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.520 want to go to that crap again. Yeah, Brown's fans 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:15.280 a crazy man, historically crazy Youngstown, Ohio, and you know 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.920 talking to Yeah, you know we're talking about gangsters and 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.240 not not just the crazy ones that are dressed up 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:28.920 like dogs and the dog. So, how was Belichick today? 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.800 He went on for twenty minutes. You know, for a 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.159 guy that's known is not very effusive. He talked a lot. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.000 But everybody he did conference call today, he did look 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.400 at local media here eight in the morning, didn't you were? 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.680 I was up, but I wasn't found that conference off. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.560 We should be getting the transcript of it. But everybody's 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.440 a problem on this Cowboys offense and defense. Dack's a problem, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.960 the running backs, the tight ends, the defense. He was 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.839 very complimentary of every phase of this Cowboys team, as 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.760 you would expect him to be. And if you go 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.120 back and listen to less weeks or read last week's 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.640 transcript when they played the Eagles, everyone of the Eagles 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.159 was a problem. The Jets before that, yeahs everyone's a problem, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.359 and the Ravens and Lamar Jackson you turned out to 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.320 be a problem. Only one team has been a real 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.200 problem for him and that was a couple of weeks ago, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.400 and that was the raven to put up thirty seven 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.159 points on this number one defense in the league. Yes 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:25.120 they did, and they ran on them too, but that's 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.560 really how they did it. The quarterback, I think it's 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.360 really that was like the first game who I've seen 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.919 Belichick it out coach, he wasn't. It's like he wasn't 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.039 expecting that. That's because he was saving it for what 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.480 the postseason. He does that. He does that, yeah, but 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.440 but you know he didn't save it for the Jets. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.479 But I didn't he save it for the Jets. I mean, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.760 he could have easily let them kind of and stay close. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.680 But I guess the Cowboys made them nervous. So what 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.240 was like playing for him? Oh? It was? It was? 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.800 It was How can I say it? It was eye 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.800 opening only because I've been around smart coaches before, amazing coaches. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.560 You know, everybody knows my coaching resume, coach vibe. Then 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.520 Tom land you want the smartest coaches in the history 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.680 of the NFL. He comes up with, You're on defense, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.440 you know, to stop a particular player, and it resonated 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.080 for decades. And now you've got Belichick, who is the 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.680 most How can I put it? Tom Landry did everything himself. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.840 You know, he just hey, I'll study this. I'll just 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.160 give you the information. Okay, trust me, this is good. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.680 These kind of things that Tom did because he's just 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:39.479 you know, Michael managed. Belichick was different, even though he 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.680 does Michael manage in his own way. He would designate 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:49.880 different players for certain tasks. So you know, you're gonna 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.400 take a look at the quarterback every time he comes 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.000 up and before a play action pass, Let's see what 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.200 his mannerisms are. So there's a tell he's looking for. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.680 Tells you lick your fingers. I don't care what it is, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.160 you know, maybe not lick your fingers. You know, he's 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.800 gonna hand it off. We found it about Buffalo, you 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.680 know the only time it was very key for us 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.119 and keep playing the game. Just simple things. We found 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.400 out in the Super Bowl that the only time Jim 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.120 Kelly went on the center is when he's gonna hand 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.440 the ball off. They never did play action. Never unless 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.480 he's in the shotgun, he's gonna throw it. Maybe handed off, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.000 but when he's under center, run and we had we 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.080 had a third and one and we stopped him and 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.880 he would have signed players, Oh yes to that. But 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:41.240 I bring him the apple every day now. It was mine. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.000 Was the mannerism, the tills of the quarterback just depended 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.400 on the game itself. I was always a wide receivers 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.920 in split sky, you know splits. To me, that was 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.480 always my best friend. Depending on where you lined up 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.600 as a wide receiver, specially if you're the outside receiver, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.360 it's gonna tell me something. I'm gonna get a key 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.880 off of that. So mine, where I was really good 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.360 at was alignments of the wide receivers and then that 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.240 would tell what route, you know, what routes we can 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.640 look for so that's you know, just little things like 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.680 that to where Okay, I didn't do this for you, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.440 you did it, so now you know it. Now you 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.480 know it, now you know it, and now we're like, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.920 you know, we're all coaches. So when he's not on 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.600 the field, we got this in the huddle because I 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:29.600 got called Banks, mister, mister smart ass, my buddy, my buddy. Um. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.319 You know, you had guys like Pepper Johnson. The linebackers 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.760 were very key. They were the guys that really they 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.080 were the heart of our team that get Lawrence any 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.120 of those responsibilities. Yeah, it was good. Was good. You know, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.040 he's very instinctive as a player, and when it's all 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.440 said and done, he's kind of like Randy White, like, oh, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.120 to hell with it. Just you know, I just got 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.160 to do it myself. You know. They were like that, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.760 you know, when you're getting some serious situations, but you 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.800 know when things are going well, no they are. You know, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.720 he was on track. Uh. He and Banks and the 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.760 linebackers were always in sync. So sometimes in the back 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.520 I don't have anything to do as a safety, I 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.880 had nothing to do. They called me in one time 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.440 and say, hey, you're not doing anything. I said, I 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.920 got nothing to do. I'm back here with shutting down Marino. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.560 We shut them out. Barry Sanders was afraid. I've never 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.240 seen Barry Sanders look scared. He didn't want to play 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.280 against us. So these you know, when you're up there 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.920 seeing all of that, you do kind of get lazy 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.400 back then I got a little lazier. So you were 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.880 playing safety then well it was on third down, okay, 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.440 so that was appropriate. All you had to do is me, yeah, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.280 make safe, look look for a fumble to pop out. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.600 You know sometimes helputs were popping and he was a 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 head coach, then yes, the same thing, No doubt. You 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.440 think he's still doing it. Of course he is, Yeah, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.439 of course he is. Yeah, that's why that team is 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.520 always in sync. When you look at the defense, is 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.600 as good as this one, you know, as bad as 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.800 good as the one in ninety You're looking at a 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.400 team that you know, no one's out of place. Now 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.560 you might make a play on me one on one 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.120 doing a matchup, but no one's out of place. No 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.400 one's no missed assignments. You know. One of the traits 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.319 that you can tell that Bill Belichick looks for in 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.040 a player because he studies the draft like nobody nobody's business, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.000 and he remembers those players from four or five years ago, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.719 and he'll pick eventually pick them up. When Kyle van 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.120 Noy is let go by the Lions for some reason, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.920 here's a second round draft pick, let go, he snaps 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.319 him up and he's a primary player on the defense. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.400 And one of the big reasons is because he's got 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.400 it upstairs. He's smart. Everything Walls is like that. It's 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.120 the whole Doyer job thing. Was that his thing back 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:36.559 then too? Yeah, I mean that the level of tolerance 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.200 these days some coaches is amazing to me. I've seen 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.360 dbs just wilf on the on the play, you know, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.040 big running backs coming, they make that business decision. We 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.320 wan't allowed to make those business decisions back in the 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.280 nineties and eighties. It you won't allowed either you throw 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.839 your body in there or you're coming off the field. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.160 You know how Tom was. They didn't play that crap. Yeah, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.520 you're not gonna get you know, you get beat. That's 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.840 one thing. But if you just if you're if you 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.400 showed that you're hesitant, you know that you're not willing 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.240 to go all in. Yeah, it showed on the on 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.960 the on the film, and then they run it back 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.240 for everybody to see, back and forth, back and forth, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.760 back and forth. That's kind of embarrassing. So they would 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.720 shame you if into making plays. They know, they just 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.160 don't do that these days, like the play on Jarwin's 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.720 touchdown against the Giants a couple of weeks ago, when 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.560 Generis Jenkins gave him the old lady about no part 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.160 of me. And you're talking about a guy, Jenkins, I mean, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.520 this is a this is a good player. Yeah. You 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.520 you're supposed to You're supposed to handle yourself better than that. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.160 Show me. You got to show the younger players on 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.800 the team that you know, I'm all in. I don't 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.560 care what the score is. And these are the times 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.960 when coaches like Belichick and Tom Langie would judge you. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.880 I'm judging you now when we're beat We're getting beat 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:54.079 thirty five to thirteen. How are you playing now? And 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.960 they would that that's when you better show me that 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.600 you are ashamed of where we are right now and 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.600 that at least you have the pride to do something 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.480 about it. You better showed me that on film. And 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.679 they are looking back in the day they would look 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.880 for that's it wasn't those nice moments they have these days. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:14.160 We were adversaries, Matt management and players. Yeah, we were adversaries. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.680 We were not friends. We were not friends. You didn't 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.400 go out to dinner with none of that. And somebody, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.439 if they invite you off in to dinner, then you 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.760 better take a lookout with you because they're gonna stabbing 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:31.920 the back. Oh that's funny. So you played for Belichick 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.360 with the Giants, and then when he became the head 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.200 coach of the Browns, he snapped you up. Yeah he did. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.720 Uh I was. I was. Actually it was like two 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.559 lovers meeting in the in the in the in the 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.000 night or something, because I was. I was like, get 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.360 me out in New York. You got your Super Bowl 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.160 and gotten ugly, and that gotten ugly, plus sales had 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.679 gotten as angel PLASTI. He left, Belichick left and here 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.560 comes lay Handley. George Young said he had everything under control, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.640 and there was the worst. Al grow was our defensive coordinator. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.840 It just then they brought in. Uh, they came in 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.080 with this old coach from New England. Oh he was 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.080 so old. He was so old, and he came up 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.959 with We confused him on cover too, that's what we run. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.320 How do you get confused on something that that's our staple. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.240 It was just horrible. It wasn't not a good sign. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.040 It was horrible. So I don't know why this name came. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:31.040 It wasn't Earnhardt, was it. No, that was I believe 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.720 that was the offensive quar Yeah, he was offensive. Yeah, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.679 Handley had to make one decision who was going to 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.400 be the quarterback? And he can sims right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.480 that was that was It was almost like going back 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.080 to the quarterback controversy. It was Dallas. Yeah, they had 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.079 the same feel. You know, we were just floundering. We 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.800 were just we were like fish out of water. So 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.120 do you think that to this day? He because it 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.320 seems like a lot of his defensive coordinators get hired 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.120 like Matt Patricia, it's hired in Detroit. Did he allow 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.440 them to be the defensive coordinator? Was he the defensive coordinator? 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.200 And he told them what to do? Well? With he 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.560 and Nick Saban, Yeah, they were both together still still 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.360 very young guys, very young coaches, and and he and 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.240 Nick they were together. They were a great tandem. So 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.960 they thought the like and as you can tell what 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:31.400 went down the college level. He would have gone from 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.000 there to Michigan State and then Miami and then right 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.320 I actually uh, and then the Dolphins. Yeah. I had 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.200 to call him after after he won the championship with 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.480 the Dolphins, and I had to apologize because, you know, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:48.880 when they let me go in Cleveland, I was a 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.440 little upset. And then I'm going home on the plane 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.640 just so happened. He's on the plane with his family. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.480 Oh no, and yeah, and you know, so I'm still 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.840 you know, my my lip is down on the ground. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.880 It was dragging on the ground. And here comes up 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.520 this this short dude. He comes up with a big 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.000 smile on his face. I'm like, I recognize this guy, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.720 but it doesn't look like Nick Saban because he's smiling. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.000 I've never seen him smile. You had his vacation time, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.720 he was offseason, he was a different guy. He said, Man, 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.920 my family's in the back. Why don't you come meet 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.800 my family? And you know, I was like, I was 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.640 kind of still mad. I wanted to be mad at him. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.280 It wasn't his fault, but you know, I was still 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.000 feeling that that release. You know, I still felt the 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:34.640 blade from getting cut and and you know, I wasn't 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.160 as as cordial as I should have been. And I 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.840 remember after he won the championship by calling back and 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.760 congratulating and also apologize, you know, for that last meeting 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.520 because he was genuinely happy to see me. And I'm 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.240 I'm almost I'm you know, it's not me. I'm I'm 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.160 I almost brushed him off, But yeah, I had to 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:54.800 call back in the polgast So that would have been 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.520 his first championship. That was his first, that's correct. Yeah, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.120 and he's only one five percent? Then now how many 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:06.480 in the one? Yeah? And then went to the Dolphins 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.960 and then at Alabama. It's been nine, eleven, twelve, fifteen, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.040 and seventeen, but it doesn't look like they're going to 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.720 do it this year. 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Nick, you're gonna put your headset on. You 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.800 join us here? Hows is gonna let you go on? Okay? 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.120 If you want to get a picture by the Christmas tree, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.840 I know that you're planning it. Yes, you're you're planning 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.520 your picture with Santa Clan Santa in his lap? Yeah yeah? 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:58.520 And whose laugh? Everson Walls is with us here. Today's 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.000 we get you set for Cowboys and Patriots on Sunday. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:08.359 And let's address Brian's situation. As you know on Twitter, 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.399 Brian brought us. Tweeted out yesterday that as of yesterday, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:14.919 he is no longer an employee of the Cowboys. He 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.920 wants to thank the Jones family for an incredible opportunity. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.520 They put me on the world stage, and I'll always 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.760 be grateful. I'm looking forward with anticipation to my next 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:28.560 challenge here very soon. I'll say I thoroughly enjoyed working 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.720 with Brian, and in fact, when he first made the 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.760 transition into broadcasting, I helped him a little bit. We 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.480 did some draft preview stuff. I can't remember how many 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.560 years ago it's been now, it's not that long ago. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:46.440 But as Derek Eagleton pointed out in his tweet later 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.159 in the day, he's the type of person that anything 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.720 you ask him to do, he'll do it for you, 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.760 and I wish him well. I have not had an 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.520 opportunity to talk with Brian. I decided, like many others, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.359 just as this was going on, that you know, if 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.520 he wants to reach out to me, great, but but 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.200 I just it seemed like a private thing, and so 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.080 I haven't talked to him. But I want to publicly 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.159 say not much of pleasure it's been for me to 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.240 work with him. We actually had we actually had two 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.000 tours of duty because he was a scout when I 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:24.840 first started working on the Cowboys website and then came 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.840 back and worked with us. Yeah. Yeah, pretty good trip. Yeah. 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.520 I just want to thank him for everything he's done 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.320 for me. I feel like I learned something every time 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.359 we were in studio with him. And you know, I 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.320 know a lot of fans and listeners have been asking 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.000 us about him the last couple of weeks, and we 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.199 just we really wanted him to have the opportunity to 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.320 express that, and he did so yesterday. So yeah, absolutely 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.960 wish him well going forward. No, I enjoy working with him. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.160 I like his angle. It comes from the management angle. 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.240