1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones, and welcome to a Tuesday edition of 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys here at the Star in Frisco inside the 7 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. Okay, we introduced Mickey, and we introduced Rob, 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: and we introduced Bill, and we've got a special guest 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: in studio as well. We got Cobby in studio. Also, 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Everson Walls joins us, how you doing? Ever said you're 11 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: doing good? Man. I was on a tour self got 12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: of tour and I found myself in here. Man, I'll 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: see you guys. I decided, you know, I was going 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: through people's draws and stuff. You know, what a great 15 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: week to have Everson Walls in here because he played 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick once upon a time. It's good timing't 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that? Yes, yes, yeah, he's a 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: different Belichick now. Oh yeah, yeah he's not the same. Different. 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: He's like power hungry, scary. He wasn't that scary back 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: in back in New York. I mean he when you 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: got there, he just got started, right. He was part 22 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: of the eighty six Super Bowl. Yeah, okay, so he 23 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: was that. I'm pretty sure he was a coordinator, yes, 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: for that team, young coordinator. Yeah, and you know back then, 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have a great hair. You know, 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: he just looked a little younger, like you know what. 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: He even interviews too. I remember going there in eighty 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: five or eighty six to do a story on the Giants. 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I was in the locker room. He came walking by 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, Bill, can I ask you a couple 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: of questions? And kind of looked at Parcels. And that's 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the most amazing part of it. Parcels let him do 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: and he actually answered a couple of questions that really well, 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: he couldn't wait, and I was naive. I didn't know, 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: you know that, No, that he didn't talk or Parcels 36 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: didn't let guys talk, you know. So, Yeah, he's had 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: a crazy path. Jerry talked about him on the radio 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: this morning on the fan of this pretty funny story. 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Found him in a ski lodge that ran into him. 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: He was he just got off the slopes and he 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: at the time he was looking for a job because 42 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: he got let go by Cleveland, and he said, Jerry 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: can keep me in mind. Only let go, I mean, 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: but he was the head coach there at Cleveland. Let go, 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and it's worked out well for you. Well, when you 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: say let go, I mean the whole team like that, 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: you say let go, I mean you know, at least 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: he didn't disintegrate with the Browns. Jerry said he was 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: in line to rent skis for his grandkids and he goes, 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: guy behind me, it's got all his stuff on, and 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: he goes, hey, I'm Bill Belichicks. You don't you know 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: what job he found shortly thereafter that, you know, with 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Patriots. Yeah, with the Patriots in fact, 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: not just back with the Patriots, he was That was 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: his first time with the Page ninety six. He became 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: the assistant head coach and defensive backs coach, and then 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the next year the Jets for three years, and then 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: head coach starting in two thousand. Yeah, that's that's when 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: he and plus Sells had their little because he was 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: supposed to take over for pers Sales vouched for him. Yes, 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm the gem. Yeah, I got this in. 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I got this, guys, don't worry about it. I got 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: this in my back pocket. And Belichick's like, na, I 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: don't think else. I think he was worried about the 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: sale of the team. He wasn't really good. It wasn't 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: really He had gone through this whole team disintegration thing 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: with the Browns. If I'm not mistaken, his kids were 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: being threatened in he had they had to have you know, 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: arm security guards. Wow. Yeah, picking the kids up from school, 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: taking the school pick them up from school. He didn't 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: want to go to that crap again. Yeah, Brown's fans 72 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: a crazy man, historically crazy Youngstown, Ohio, and you know 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: talking to Yeah, you know we're talking about gangsters and 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: not not just the crazy ones that are dressed up 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: like dogs and the dog. So, how was Belichick today? 76 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: He went on for twenty minutes. You know, for a 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: guy that's known is not very effusive. He talked a lot. 78 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: But everybody he did conference call today, he did look 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: at local media here eight in the morning, didn't you were? 80 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: I was up, but I wasn't found that conference off. 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: We should be getting the transcript of it. But everybody's 82 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: a problem on this Cowboys offense and defense. Dack's a problem, 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the running backs, the tight ends, the defense. He was 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: very complimentary of every phase of this Cowboys team, as 85 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: you would expect him to be. And if you go 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: back and listen to less weeks or read last week's 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: transcript when they played the Eagles, everyone of the Eagles 88 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: was a problem. The Jets before that, yeahs everyone's a problem, 89 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: and the Ravens and Lamar Jackson you turned out to 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: be a problem. Only one team has been a real 91 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: problem for him and that was a couple of weeks ago, 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and that was the raven to put up thirty seven 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: points on this number one defense in the league. Yes 94 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: they did, and they ran on them too, but that's 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: really how they did it. The quarterback, I think it's 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: really that was like the first game who I've seen 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: Belichick it out coach, he wasn't. It's like he wasn't 98 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: expecting that. That's because he was saving it for what 99 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: the postseason. He does that. He does that, yeah, but 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: but you know he didn't save it for the Jets. 101 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: But I didn't he save it for the Jets. I mean, 102 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: he could have easily let them kind of and stay close. 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: But I guess the Cowboys made them nervous. So what 104 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: was like playing for him? Oh? It was? It was? 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: It was How can I say it? It was eye 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: opening only because I've been around smart coaches before, amazing coaches. 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, everybody knows my coaching resume, coach vibe. Then 108 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Tom land you want the smartest coaches in the history 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: of the NFL. He comes up with, You're on defense, 110 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, to stop a particular player, and it resonated 111 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: for decades. And now you've got Belichick, who is the 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: most How can I put it? Tom Landry did everything himself. 113 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, he just hey, I'll study this. I'll just 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: give you the information. Okay, trust me, this is good. 115 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: These kind of things that Tom did because he's just 116 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: you know, Michael managed. Belichick was different, even though he 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: does Michael manage in his own way. He would designate 118 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: different players for certain tasks. So you know, you're gonna 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: take a look at the quarterback every time he comes 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: up and before a play action pass, Let's see what 121 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: his mannerisms are. So there's a tell he's looking for. 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Tells you lick your fingers. I don't care what it is, 123 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe not lick your fingers. You know, he's 124 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna hand it off. We found it about Buffalo, you 125 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: know the only time it was very key for us 126 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 1: and keep playing the game. Just simple things. We found 127 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: out in the Super Bowl that the only time Jim 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Kelly went on the center is when he's gonna hand 129 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: the ball off. They never did play action. Never unless 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: he's in the shotgun, he's gonna throw it. Maybe handed off, 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: but when he's under center, run and we had we 132 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: had a third and one and we stopped him and 133 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: he would have signed players, Oh yes to that. But 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: I bring him the apple every day now. It was mine. 135 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: Was the mannerism, the tills of the quarterback just depended 136 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: on the game itself. I was always a wide receivers 137 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: in split sky, you know splits. To me, that was 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: always my best friend. Depending on where you lined up 139 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, specially if you're the outside receiver, 140 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna tell me something. I'm gonna get a key 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: off of that. So mine, where I was really good 142 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: at was alignments of the wide receivers and then that 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: would tell what route, you know, what routes we can 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: look for so that's you know, just little things like 145 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: that to where Okay, I didn't do this for you, 146 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you did it, so now you know it. Now you 147 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: know it, now you know it, and now we're like, 148 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're all coaches. So when he's not on 149 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the field, we got this in the huddle because I 150 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: got called Banks, mister, mister smart ass, my buddy, my buddy. Um. 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: You know, you had guys like Pepper Johnson. The linebackers 152 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: were very key. They were the guys that really they 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: were the heart of our team that get Lawrence any 154 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: of those responsibilities. Yeah, it was good. Was good. You know, 155 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: he's very instinctive as a player, and when it's all 156 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: said and done, he's kind of like Randy White, like, oh, 157 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: to hell with it. Just you know, I just got 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: to do it myself. You know. They were like that, 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you're getting some serious situations, but you 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: know when things are going well, no they are. You know, 161 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: he was on track. Uh. He and Banks and the 162 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: linebackers were always in sync. So sometimes in the back 163 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do as a safety, I 164 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: had nothing to do. They called me in one time 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you're not doing anything. I said, I 166 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: got nothing to do. I'm back here with shutting down Marino. 167 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: We shut them out. Barry Sanders was afraid. I've never 168 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: seen Barry Sanders look scared. He didn't want to play 169 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: against us. So these you know, when you're up there 170 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: seeing all of that, you do kind of get lazy 171 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: back then I got a little lazier. So you were 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: playing safety then well it was on third down, okay, 173 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: so that was appropriate. All you had to do is me, yeah, 174 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: make safe, look look for a fumble to pop out. 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: You know sometimes helputs were popping and he was a 176 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: head coach, then yes, the same thing, No doubt. You 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: think he's still doing it. Of course he is, Yeah, 178 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: of course he is. Yeah, that's why that team is 179 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: always in sync. When you look at the defense, is 180 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: as good as this one, you know, as bad as 181 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: good as the one in ninety You're looking at a 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: team that you know, no one's out of place. Now 183 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: you might make a play on me one on one 184 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: doing a matchup, but no one's out of place. No 185 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: one's no missed assignments. You know. One of the traits 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: that you can tell that Bill Belichick looks for in 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: a player because he studies the draft like nobody nobody's business, 188 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: and he remembers those players from four or five years ago, 189 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: and he'll pick eventually pick them up. When Kyle van 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Noy is let go by the Lions for some reason, 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: here's a second round draft pick, let go, he snaps 192 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: him up and he's a primary player on the defense. 193 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: And one of the big reasons is because he's got 194 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: it upstairs. He's smart. Everything Walls is like that. It's 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the whole Doyer job thing. Was that his thing back 196 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: then too? Yeah, I mean that the level of tolerance 197 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: these days some coaches is amazing to me. I've seen 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: dbs just wilf on the on the play, you know, 199 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: big running backs coming, they make that business decision. We 200 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: wan't allowed to make those business decisions back in the 201 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: nineties and eighties. It you won't allowed either you throw 202 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: your body in there or you're coming off the field. 203 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: You know how Tom was. They didn't play that crap. Yeah, 204 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get you know, you get beat. That's 205 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: one thing. But if you just if you're if you 206 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: showed that you're hesitant, you know that you're not willing 207 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: to go all in. Yeah, it showed on the on 208 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: the on the film, and then they run it back 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: for everybody to see, back and forth, back and forth, 210 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: back and forth. That's kind of embarrassing. So they would 211 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: shame you if into making plays. They know, they just 212 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: don't do that these days, like the play on Jarwin's 213 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: touchdown against the Giants a couple of weeks ago, when 214 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: Generis Jenkins gave him the old lady about no part 215 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: of me. And you're talking about a guy, Jenkins, I mean, 216 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: this is a this is a good player. Yeah. You 217 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: you're supposed to You're supposed to handle yourself better than that. 218 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Show me. You got to show the younger players on 219 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the team that you know, I'm all in. I don't 220 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: care what the score is. And these are the times 221 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: when coaches like Belichick and Tom Langie would judge you. 222 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm judging you now when we're beat We're getting beat 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: thirty five to thirteen. How are you playing now? And 224 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: they would that that's when you better show me that 225 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: you are ashamed of where we are right now and 226 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: that at least you have the pride to do something 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: about it. You better showed me that on film. And 228 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: they are looking back in the day they would look 229 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: for that's it wasn't those nice moments they have these days. 230 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: We were adversaries, Matt management and players. Yeah, we were adversaries. 231 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: We were not friends. We were not friends. You didn't 232 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: go out to dinner with none of that. And somebody, 233 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: if they invite you off in to dinner, then you 234 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: better take a lookout with you because they're gonna stabbing 235 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: the back. Oh that's funny. So you played for Belichick 236 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: with the Giants, and then when he became the head 237 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: coach of the Browns, he snapped you up. Yeah he did. 238 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Uh I was. I was. Actually it was like two 239 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: lovers meeting in the in the in the in the 240 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: night or something, because I was. I was like, get 241 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: me out in New York. You got your Super Bowl 242 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and gotten ugly, and that gotten ugly, plus sales had 243 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: gotten as angel PLASTI. He left, Belichick left and here 244 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: comes lay Handley. George Young said he had everything under control, 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and there was the worst. Al grow was our defensive coordinator. 246 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: It just then they brought in. Uh, they came in 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: with this old coach from New England. Oh he was 248 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: so old. He was so old, and he came up 249 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: with We confused him on cover too, that's what we run. 250 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: How do you get confused on something that that's our staple. 251 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: It was just horrible. It wasn't not a good sign. 252 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: It was horrible. So I don't know why this name came. 253 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't Earnhardt, was it. No, that was I believe 254 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: that was the offensive quar Yeah, he was offensive. Yeah, 255 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: Handley had to make one decision who was going to 256 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: be the quarterback? And he can sims right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 257 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: that was that was It was almost like going back 258 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: to the quarterback controversy. It was Dallas. Yeah, they had 259 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: the same feel. You know, we were just floundering. We 260 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: were just we were like fish out of water. So 261 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: do you think that to this day? He because it 262 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of his defensive coordinators get hired 263 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: like Matt Patricia, it's hired in Detroit. Did he allow 264 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: them to be the defensive coordinator? Was he the defensive coordinator? 265 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: And he told them what to do? Well? With he 266 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: and Nick Saban, Yeah, they were both together still still 267 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: very young guys, very young coaches, and and he and 268 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: Nick they were together. They were a great tandem. So 269 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: they thought the like and as you can tell what 270 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: went down the college level. He would have gone from 271 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: there to Michigan State and then Miami and then right 272 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: I actually uh, and then the Dolphins. Yeah. I had 273 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: to call him after after he won the championship with 274 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and I had to apologize because, you know, 275 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: when they let me go in Cleveland, I was a 276 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: little upset. And then I'm going home on the plane 277 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: just so happened. He's on the plane with his family. 278 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, and yeah, and you know, so I'm still 279 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, my my lip is down on the ground. 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: It was dragging on the ground. And here comes up 281 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: this this short dude. He comes up with a big 282 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: smile on his face. I'm like, I recognize this guy, 283 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like Nick Saban because he's smiling. 284 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen him smile. You had his vacation time, 285 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: he was offseason, he was a different guy. He said, Man, 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: my family's in the back. Why don't you come meet 287 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: my family? And you know, I was like, I was 288 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of still mad. I wanted to be mad at him. 289 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't his fault, but you know, I was still 290 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: feeling that that release. You know, I still felt the 291 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: blade from getting cut and and you know, I wasn't 292 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: as as cordial as I should have been. And I 293 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: remember after he won the championship by calling back and 294 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: congratulating and also apologize, you know, for that last meeting 295 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: because he was genuinely happy to see me. And I'm 296 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm almost I'm you know, it's not me. I'm I'm 297 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: I almost brushed him off, But yeah, I had to 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: call back in the polgast So that would have been 299 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: his first championship. That was his first, that's correct. Yeah, 300 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: and he's only one five percent? Then now how many 301 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: in the one? Yeah? And then went to the Dolphins 302 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: and then at Alabama. It's been nine, eleven, twelve, fifteen, 303 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and seventeen, but it doesn't look like they're going to 304 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: do it this year. Well, Everson Walls is our special 305 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: guest here on Talking Cowboys, and we will continue in 306 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: a moment and get his impressions of this current Cowboys team. 307 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: What do you say? Making that feel good? All right? 308 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: We're talking Cowboys continues in a moment. 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By the way, we should take this 360 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: show outside. Nick, you're gonna put your headset on. You 361 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: join us here? Hows is gonna let you go on? Okay? 362 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: If you want to get a picture by the Christmas tree, 363 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I know that you're planning it. Yes, you're you're planning 364 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: your picture with Santa Clan Santa in his lap? Yeah yeah? 365 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: And whose laugh? Everson Walls is with us here. Today's 366 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: we get you set for Cowboys and Patriots on Sunday. 367 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: And let's address Brian's situation. As you know on Twitter, 368 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: Brian brought us. Tweeted out yesterday that as of yesterday, 369 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: he is no longer an employee of the Cowboys. He 370 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: wants to thank the Jones family for an incredible opportunity. 371 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: They put me on the world stage, and I'll always 372 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: be grateful. I'm looking forward with anticipation to my next 373 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: challenge here very soon. I'll say I thoroughly enjoyed working 374 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: with Brian, and in fact, when he first made the 375 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: transition into broadcasting, I helped him a little bit. We 376 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: did some draft preview stuff. I can't remember how many 377 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: years ago it's been now, it's not that long ago. 378 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: But as Derek Eagleton pointed out in his tweet later 379 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: in the day, he's the type of person that anything 380 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: you ask him to do, he'll do it for you, 381 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: and I wish him well. I have not had an 382 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk with Brian. I decided, like many others, 383 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: just as this was going on, that you know, if 384 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: he wants to reach out to me, great, but but 385 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I just it seemed like a private thing, and so 386 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him. But I want to publicly 387 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: say not much of pleasure it's been for me to 388 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: work with him. We actually had we actually had two 389 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: tours of duty because he was a scout when I 390 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: first started working on the Cowboys website and then came 391 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: back and worked with us. Yeah. Yeah, pretty good trip. Yeah. 392 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I just want to thank him for everything he's done 393 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: for me. I feel like I learned something every time 394 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: we were in studio with him. And you know, I 395 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of fans and listeners have been asking 396 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: us about him the last couple of weeks, and we 397 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: just we really wanted him to have the opportunity to 398 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: express that, and he did so yesterday. So yeah, absolutely 399 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: wish him well going forward. No, I enjoy working with him. 400 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: I like his angle. It comes from the management angle. 401 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes as a player, you know, all you think about 402 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: is how the effects the players. I like his aspects 403 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: and where it comes from, and very informative. Every show 404 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: he tells me something that I had no idea. I 405 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't think of even coming from that angle. 406 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: That's that's the way he was and you were doing 407 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: the pregame show. Oh yeah, that's right. He took over. 408 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: He took Big Boys. I'm like, man, this guy's intimidating. 409 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Man listening to him, he must know what he's talking about. Well, 410 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: that's that's the key. The way I look at it. 411 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: I speak with authority on whatever I talk about, whether 412 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about or not. If you 413 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: say it with authority talking about scaring everybody else away, 414 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: that's exactly right, all right? Um? I want to get 415 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: ever since impressions on what he's seeing with this Cowboys 416 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: team right now and specifically this Dallas defense. What are 417 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: you seeing right now from this man? That defense? Oh? 418 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: My goodness, that's so inconsistent. It just just how did 419 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: jeans tall us say? Jeans? It chaps my ass. Inconsistent 420 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: they are. And you know, for a team that I 421 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: was hoping for, a unit that I was hoping, would 422 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: you know they would be the ignited of every game? 423 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, we can't wait on them every game too. Okay, 424 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: now we're fired up. It reminds me of the eighty 425 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: one team. I'm sorry, what am I going? It reminds 426 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: me of the twenty sixteen team that when DA and 427 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: when that Dak and six rookie year. This is the 428 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: team where offensively we were clicking I mean every week, 429 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: and defensively they played off of the offense. And that's 430 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing now. I do not like that. I 431 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: think you know, you've seen other teams that are good, 432 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: that are consistent, and those teams are are good and 433 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: consistent and at the top of their division. Defensively, they 434 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: are playmakers, Okay, they don't make they don't miss tackles 435 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: in open space, fundamental things that they're looking for the ball. 436 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: They're looking for opportunities for turnovers. And I'm always you know, 437 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: the thing about the interceptions, but any type of turnover, strip, sacks, fumbles, 438 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: when it's on the ground, be ready to jump on it. 439 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Expect for plays to happen, for the new edition of 440 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: Christian Shaw to come in and to bring that culture, 441 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: and for him to say that, hey, the plan is good. 442 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, the plan is good. I've got to set 443 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: up for an interception for every pass play, but then 444 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: we don't have any, so the plan is good. Hey, 445 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. All we gotta do is look 446 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: across the field at the new England Patriots. Someday team 447 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: that takes the football away on defense by far number 448 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: one takeaways just over halfway through. Yeah, and when you 449 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: look at something like that as a coach, as a player, 450 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, you have the talent. It's not like I'm 451 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys eighty seventeam where we were, you know, 452 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: dwindling in talent aged age. We're going up in age 453 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. And okay, you you're asking 454 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: teams to summon something that they don't have anymore. This 455 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: team has it. They are young. Okay, they are talented, 456 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and so it's just not being uh focused in harnessed 457 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: in the right direction. I've said it many times. Turnovers 458 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: are contagious. If one person gets a few of them, 459 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: then that next person next to him or it plays 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: his position or plays on the on the linebacker position. 461 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna say, I need some I've known that since 462 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: high school. I got a few interception in high school. 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Next thing, I know, this guy wants in inception. I 464 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: got some interceptions in college. I watched this guy get picks. 465 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta do that. That's how I 466 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: keep my scholarship. That's how i'm I'm How can I 467 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: say that's how I'm I'm invaluable to the team. What 468 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: is my value to the team. I want to increase 469 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: my value to that team. You know. That was Jerry's 470 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: tech this morning. On his radio segment talking about the 471 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: defense and pointing out that when it came to yards 472 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: per game, they were seventh in the league, or our 473 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: seventh in the league. But he said, the thing that's 474 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: separating us from being that next step defense is takeaways. 475 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: And if you look at what they've done, and these 476 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: last two games I think are somewhat troubling because they've 477 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: given up twenty seven and twenty eight points in back 478 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: to back games, and twenty seven to a backup quarterback, right, 479 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: so that averages out to twenty seven and a half 480 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: points over those two. Over the first eight games, they 481 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: were only given up seventeen points seven points a game 482 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and really only had the one bad game and that 483 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: was the Packers, and the takeaways really helped out the 484 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Packers score that many points, so they had been okay, 485 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: still didn't have enough takeaways. But these last two games 486 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: somewhat troubling. And the troubling thing that I think has 487 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: been consistent is allowing quarterbacks to run the football. If 488 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, the Lions had one hundred and twenty 489 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: one yards rushing and fifty one of those was the quarterback. 490 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: So you can deal with seventy yards rushing, but you 491 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: can't let the quarterback get away when you knew going 492 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: into the game that the quarterback was athletic and we 493 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: got to make sure we keep He was their leading 494 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: rush of the week before Chicago. Yeah, with the four 495 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: four speed Jeff Driscoll. Yeah, and Everson mentioned the tackling 496 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: on a second. The quarterback's not gonna run this week, Okay, 497 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: where he's not going to stop that quarterback from running 498 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: this week. He's a lot the priority, awkward looking figure 499 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: while running down the field with his number one. But yeah, 500 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: he will run. But it's been a watch out for 501 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, watch out that philling special two quarterback 502 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: sneak's yard. You know, well, Everson mentioned the tackling, Jerry 503 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: mentioned it. We mentioned it yesterday. That has not been 504 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: a consistent part of their defense this year in the 505 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: run game. Make you mentioned with mobile quarterbacks, they're not 506 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: as consistent tackling as they would like to be. And 507 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: that's the that's the big thing I see in the 508 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: games that they've lost or that they've struggled in. And 509 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: that's coaching, man. Yeah, that's coaching, man. Yeah, I mean 510 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: that's all it is. You put emphasis on I'm tackling. 511 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a football player, you're a football player. I 512 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: know Cook is a great running back, but I'm a 513 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: hell of a defensive back. I'm a hell of a linebacker. 514 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm a hell of a defensive lineman. Yea, I can 515 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: bring this guy down. Everybody knew he ran hard when 516 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: he came into the game. That was nothing new. And 517 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: it's one other thing that that concerns me. And I've 518 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: always said this about turnovers. I was on Drew Pierson's 519 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: show the other day and he talked about you know 520 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: they you know how they bragged on him when you're 521 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: on the show and talked about how those interceptions he said, 522 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: he said, he says, he said, man, when when you 523 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: would get the interceptions when our team, because we led 524 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: the league, when we were getting an interception, the offense 525 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: loved it because most times, all these guys do come 526 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: in and do a couple of running running plays and 527 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're on the twenty yard line 528 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and Drew Pierson's got touchdown a quick slant. You know, 529 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: you beat a guy on the faith. That's easy work. 530 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: That's a four play drive. Have you seen how many 531 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: plays we have to run doing a game. Lately, we 532 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: always start off inside the twenty five. At least we run. 533 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: We use every play in the playbook to get a score. 534 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: The only game they didn't was the Philadelphia game, and 535 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that was the first time all season they went six 536 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: games without starting an offensive driving the opponents into the 537 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: field until that game. That's a lot of pressure on 538 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: your offense. That's just way too much press. I don't 539 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: care how good you are. Eventually we're gonna figure this out. Slay, 540 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: we were attacking Slay with Cooper. Well, eventually Slays like, 541 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: hold up, man, I'm just gonna take a shot here. 542 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Maybe he might run a curl. I'm gonna jump it 543 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: and see those things. Good teams will make that play. 544 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: He should have made the player I believe. I believe 545 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: that was Slay. That missed was right, and good teams 546 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: are gonna make that play. And now all of a sudden, 547 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: you're down two scores or maybe three scores, and this 548 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: is a better team. Now you're talking to the the Patriots, 549 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: you might be talking. We saw glean Bay. We cannot 550 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: take this for granted. We cannot come out like we've 551 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: been coming out offensively. That's a whole another story. But 552 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: to me, defensively, anytime you have a good team and 553 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: you have a good quarterback, that quarterback gets extra opportunities 554 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: to make up for any mistake because his defense is 555 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: going to give him another chance. I'm glad you brought 556 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: that up, because I looked up all the every game 557 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: this year from the past and counted it up the 558 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: number of times they've started offensively inside upon his territory 559 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: or the fifty yard line. What do you say the 560 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys have one? Well, there was the first time comes 561 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia game. Yeah, yeah, twenty four. Twenty four 562 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: times Tom Brady's had the ball at midfield or inside 563 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: upon his territory. That Eagles game had four times that 564 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: they did. They got the ball four times every time 565 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: it was in the Eagles end of the field in 566 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: one game. And I mean that's and Brady's not happy 567 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: with the offense. But when when you got the ball 568 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: and you're not having to go that long and drive, 569 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: I think the go can can get in there a 570 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: couple of times. So you probably can't comprehend us. The 571 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: opponents have thrown three hundred and forty seven passes so 572 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: far and the Cowboys have four interceptions they got four four. Man, 573 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: I never said had eleven his rookie season. Man, the 574 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: host is supposed to do this eleven season seven and 575 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: eighty two, which was a strike shortened season nine games seven. Okay, 576 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: so there's eighteen picks in twenty five games right there. 577 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: All right, you fell off in before it was started. 578 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: Five nine interceptions fifty seven in his career. So there 579 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: you go. Not bad. And I gotta say, guys, I 580 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: love the accolades, but uh and I love the love. 581 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: But as a team, we were monsters. Man. I mean, 582 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: Mick was there. We dude, we picked him off all 583 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: the time. It was the norm. We gave We gave 584 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: up some plays, but man, we made so many plays. Guys. 585 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: You never even heard of him making interceptions. And that's 586 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. The culture was there, Victor Scott. 587 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: Who knows who the hill? Victor Scott got some damn interceptions. 588 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you that much. Who who knows who 589 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: Ricky easily is? I know who is because he got 590 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: some interceptions with us. No one knows who he is. Okay, 591 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't even find any right now on Facebook. Problem. 592 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: But that guy got the pick because he joined the culture, 593 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: and the culture needs to be established here some kind 594 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: of way. That guy even Bill Bates got Bill Bates 595 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: got picks. Come on, man, come on, Steve Wilson got 596 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: two picks. I took his job and he comes back 597 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: against two picks. Come on, Cowboys, your rookie year. The 598 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys had thirty seven interceptions. Of course Everson had twenty 599 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: of them. No, he had eleven, Dennis Thurman had twenty. 600 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Together Thurman had nine. Ever, soon, how come he got 601 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: the nickname and you didn't? I mean, look up the 602 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: eighty five season. Okay, well, I'm gonna look up the 603 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: eighty five season and we'll get to that when we 604 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: come back in just a moment. And Everson, you gotta 605 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: hear Mickey's red coming up next. Since eighteen sixty five, 606 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Stetson hats are American maid with pride right here in Texas, 607 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: and Stetson is proud to be on the field with 608 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: America's team. Want to show your Texas and team pride too, 609 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: You can by purchasing your own stetson. You can look 610 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: just like how the flag guys do on field at 611 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: every home game. 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I old twenty three Doctor Pepper stack 628 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: from top to bottom as far as the eye can see. 629 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: The phrase two good to be true comes to mind. 630 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: Yet there it is a rich, delicious Doctor Pepper Paradise. 631 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: Wait did did that. Can doctor Pepper just open itself 632 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: for you? They all are as if to say, it's 633 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: so nice to treat you. And even though it feels 634 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: weird to talk to we, can you pick one up 635 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: and say, it's so nice to be treated Doctor Pepper, 636 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: so nice to treat you? Back to talking Cowboys. Hey, 637 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: is Winner cracking you up? Then? If it is, you 638 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: need to go to Jack Black dot com. Nile's the 639 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: time to prep against dry chap winter skin free winter Warriors. 640 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: With your sixty five plus dollar perchase, you get nourishing 641 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: oil along with dry erase ultra calming face cream. Go 642 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: to get Jack Black dot com, use the code Winner 643 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: and shop now. Yay, Mickey, that was good. You stepped 644 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: up your dames ever ever sing in the building. You 645 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: stepped up your day when you're talking about winter stuff, 646 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: man Black folks kid as I was all listened to 647 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: everything you said on that one Jack Black, all right, 648 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out. I pride myself having 649 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: grown up in Irving. I went to MacArthur, you went 650 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: to Berkener over in Richard, Okay. And I pride myself 651 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: having pretty much known every Cowboys player that came through okay. 652 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: And then you mentioned this Ricky Easily Eastman. Yeah, And 653 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I've never heard of Ricky Easily. Okay. 654 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: I've never heard of Ricky Eastman either, Okay, okay. And 655 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: I looked him up and sure enough, not a Ricky Easily, 656 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 1: but a Ricky Eastman. Month that's right. Nineteen eighty five. 657 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Good dude. Lee was the skinniest guy you ever want 658 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: to meet, but one of those skinny, strong guys that 659 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: he hit way harder than I did. I wouldn't throw 660 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: him out by the end like he did. He was 661 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: a good kid. I don't know that he got an interception? 662 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: Did you get a pick? So that? Okay, Mickey, you 663 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: asked about nineteen eighty five, yes, okay, And I looked 664 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: up thirty They had thirty seven picks in eighty one. 665 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm still wrapping my head around five. The Cowboys had 666 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: thirty three interceptions. I bet we have to go back 667 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: and everything three four years for the team to total 668 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: that many. You know who got an interception in nineteen 669 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: eighty five and scored a touchdown? Was that? He would 670 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: have been about a third year player? Was me? It 671 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: wasn't me. A defensive lineman a defense, Jim. Jeff God, 672 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: that was the sixty five yard Giants may have been. 673 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm yeah that was. I remember the dance he tried 674 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 1: to dance in the unit zone. Jeff God, I can't 675 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: see that now. I probably watched well. They started the 676 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: season off that year with five in the opener against 677 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: Eisman on his birthday. Oh yeah, I was a day, Yeah, birthday. 678 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: I hope the whole class, ain't it that? That was 679 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: classic moment? That yeah, classic, Never forget that forty four 680 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: to fourteen. And Victor Scott had a twenty six yard 681 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: pick six he in that game. That Dennis Thurman also 682 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: had a pick six in that game. Yeah, so there 683 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: you go. And then they went to Saint Louis and 684 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: bought their hats. Yeah, oh yeah, we were feeling us 685 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: for the games. Ye took the picture. Now just think 686 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: about that. We bought some hats, gangster hats and see 687 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: see see the narrative they why can't they just be 688 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: for doors those on the road trips where I grew up. 689 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: Every week we grow my hats. What are they doing hats? 690 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna lose this game and the 691 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: seasons over. And they did a game. Of course TV interview, 692 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: Hanson was having fun and of all people that missed 693 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: the interview, I missed the interview. Oh no, I never 694 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: went on the early bus. They went the early bus, 695 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: so they'll call them and like cute little interview. Everybody 696 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: is upset over hats beat. They weren't prepared to play. 697 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: We weren't prepared to play because we bought hats. Come on, man, 698 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: you give me a break. That was the culture from 699 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: from the eighties. That's typical of the culture from the eighties. 700 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: The whole defensive line got mad at us because he 701 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: bought hats. Then they had to go and do a 702 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: poster later with some big cowboy hats on because how 703 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: don't even think about getting gangster hats? Tall hats. That's 704 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: what we got here. That was just crazy. Man. That 705 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: was a twenty one to ten lost to the Cardinals. 706 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the worst Cowboys Monday Night football lost 707 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: to the Saint Louis Cardinals. What happened then? That would 708 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: have been nineteen seventy when Dandy Don Meredith was in 709 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: the broadcast before at the Cotton Bowl, before the team 710 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: even moved into Texas Stadium. My daddy took me to 711 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: that game, and the Cowboys lost thirty eight to nothing 712 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals play St. Louis. No. It was middle 713 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: of the season, and towards the end of that game, 714 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboy crowd turned towards the broadcast girth and started channing, 715 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: we want Dandy, We want Dandy. Dandy was the best. 716 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: That was the best. Monday Night crew. Oh my good, 717 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: never mind, you can say right now they were far 718 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: back Comedian. All right, um, Cowboys off We haven't got 719 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: your your thoughts on the Cowboys offense right now. These 720 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: receivers pretty good, aren't They are good? They are good. 721 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: And I like how you know Dak's picking out you 722 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: know who's whoever's on the menu today. You know Coop's 723 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: not doing well, that's okay. You know, we'll go to 724 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: young kids see how he does. And Cobb, I've always 725 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: said it from day one. Um, I love me some 726 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: hot sauce, Love me some hot sauce. But Cobb is 727 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: the man. I mean, Cobb is is premier slot receiver. 728 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: He always was. I don't know what happened in in 729 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but having him here and if, if, if 730 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: that keeps showing the way he's showing how he can 731 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: connect with every receiver. To me, Cob besides, Cooper is 732 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: going to be the most important player on the team 733 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: this year. Wow. Well, and it's thing that's really holding sorry, 734 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: that's truly held him back. Like you mentioned green Bay 735 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: was his health. You know, he had the hamstring thing, 736 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: but I mean he was he was a go to 737 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: guy for Rogers for all those years. Yeah, and that's 738 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: what happened in green Bay last year whenever they soured 739 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: on him and all he's getting old. He had a 740 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, then he had a concussion, and if you 741 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: looked at what he was doing up to that point, 742 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: he was awfully productive. And even the previous year when 743 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went out basically for the season prior to 744 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: his injury, he was on pace for like an eighty 745 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: catch season. And then you got a rookie quarterback who 746 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: was in over his head and say so, his numbers 747 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: aren't going to be the same as when he's got 748 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Think about it. Where do rookie quarterbacks have problems. 749 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: They have problems down the middle of the field where 750 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: slot receiver is in the tight end, too much congestion right, correct, 751 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: and so yeah, but boy, all I know is every 752 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: time he played the Cowboys, he punished him. Every time 753 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: he played everybody, he punished. Yeah. Yeah, this is this 754 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: is a guy that this was probably the steal for 755 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: us of the season. And I think he will do 756 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: as much for our team as Coop did when he 757 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: came last year. I think I think this guy, you 758 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: saw it, you know, he complimented Uh uh, why can't 759 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: I think of the other receivers named gallup very well, 760 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: complimenting very well. Uh, you can see that this team offensively, 761 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: they can I can see why they get a little 762 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: cocky every once in a while, you know, you get 763 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: full of themselves because sometimes it just looks like it's 764 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: just picking cherries. Man. Yeah, they just wild open all 765 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: the time. So all of a sudden, now you get 766 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: a team stay with New Orleans, Well, you got some 767 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: receiver the dbs they wanted to get into receivers faces, 768 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: no free release of the off the your line make 769 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more uncomfortable for them. But now they're 770 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: adjusting to that as well. So right now I see 771 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: them being challenged more with better teams of course coming up. 772 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: But I look for them. I look forward to them 773 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: really settling in. You asked me about what I think 774 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: about this team. I think that when their backs against 775 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: the wall, unfortunately they that's when they play. That's when 776 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: the coaches become more focused. Now the surprise is I 777 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: thought that that would come against the Vikings. I thought 778 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: that was going to be the beginning of our march. 779 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: But still, if you're looking at what go or f