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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Thursday, March twelfth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we've decided

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Speaker 1: not to throw at our Pro Day. It's me and

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Speaker 1: your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by Michael at Florio

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Speaker 1: and Lakwan Jones. I saw Pro Day stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they've been going on for a while. I've

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Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, maybe it's nothing I should say out loud,

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Speaker 1: kind of like not avoided it, but haven't really locked

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Speaker 1: into Pro Day's ky Lemon. I saw you run four.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, no, I'm still leaning Jordan Tyson if

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Speaker 2: I'm a Rams fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, that's here's the thing, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine, right, I think. And I've so we had

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Speaker 1: the whole you know, there's that whole kerfuffle at the

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Speaker 1: combine about you know, somebody who might have run a

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Speaker 1: four or five three versus a four, four eight or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: arguing over hundredths of a second is one of the

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Speaker 1: dumber things we do. Now.

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Speaker 3: I try to purposely avoid, like I understand that it's

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Speaker 3: going to impact draft capital, and that's where I think

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Speaker 3: it matters for us, because draft capital does lead to

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Speaker 3: more opportunity and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: But I in the last.

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Speaker 3: Couple of years, I've tried to really block it out

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Speaker 3: and just watch them play football and make my opinions

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Speaker 3: based off that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we as a group, as a

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Speaker 1: people are getting smarter about this. That if you watch

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Speaker 1: a guy on tape, and everything on his tape says

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Speaker 1: he has the tools to be successful, like he was

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Speaker 1: able to succeed at the college level against all levels

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Speaker 1: of competition, blah blah blah. I'm running at four or

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Speaker 1: five three, shouldn't change your mind about that. So I

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Speaker 1: hope we're getting smarter, that's all sure. Nonetheless, Makayla and

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Speaker 1: Roar ran a four or five to three, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's going to be a topic of conversation for

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Speaker 1: like the next three days. Thankfully the weeknd's coming anyway, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we are still talking about the free agency frenzy, which

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Speaker 1: side notes all that the league year actually opened yesterday

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Speaker 1: and there was really nothing to report because everything had

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Speaker 1: already happened like forty eight hours before that.

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Speaker 2: We had kicker news and punters getting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of kicker and punter news. Trade Say what

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Speaker 1: a lot of kicker news, a lot of punter news.

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Speaker 1: This free agency cycle did not have that. On my

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Speaker 1: Bengal card Ram picked up a long snapper.

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Speaker 2: He's good, he's signed. So special team. Shout out to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to y'all. Let the listeners know we're not

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about any of that on the

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Speaker 1: show today should be that's gonna be the end of

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Speaker 1: kicker punter talk.

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Speaker 2: I think we're an anti kicker defense.

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Speaker 1: Two thirds of us are two thirds of us are okay,

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Speaker 1: one of us pro kickers. I'm pro kicker.

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Speaker 4: It was up to Marcus, we'd be talking kickers all day.

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Speaker 3: My home league.

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Speaker 2: I know you're listening. One of you are listening. We

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Speaker 2: need to vote this out, like I need kickers and

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Speaker 2: defense out.

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Speaker 1: I am just look, I'm I'm on pins and needles

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Speaker 1: over the Brandon Aubrey situation. You know, are the.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys gonna get this stuck?

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Speaker 2: Defens is getting blown out because they're riddled with injuries.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Lions gave me negative points.

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Speaker 1: It's come on, sports man. If it's in the game,

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Speaker 1: it's in the game. I mean, let's do this, like

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Speaker 1: you know, it's still part of the game. I want

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Speaker 1: another flex, that's all. I just want one more flex.

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Speaker 3: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You can do that and keep kickers. Like my whole

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Speaker 1: argument is, like, nobody ever gives me an argument against kickers. Besides,

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Speaker 1: I can't project them somewhat, suck it up.

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Speaker 2: My kickers on a buy, I need to hit the waiver.

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Speaker 3: Why I have to use priority for that?

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Speaker 1: No, replace replace kicker with quarterback. My quarterback's on a buy.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a new one, all right, that's life, man,

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Speaker 1: time for everybody.

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Speaker 3: I became permanently anti kicker when in the playoffs one

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Speaker 3: year my lineup outscored my opponents by like fifteen, but

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Speaker 3: his kicker outscored mine by like eighteen, and I lost

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Speaker 4: So man, it was the breaks. I yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 4: I never want to do this again, but.

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Speaker 1: It'sact I mean again. If that's the argument that we

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Speaker 1: should get rid of PPR for all those Wan Dale Robinson,

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman seventeen point days when they didn't do anything,

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Speaker 1: but you got to give zwandew.

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Speaker 3: I've mentioned it on here, but I want to meet

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Speaker 3: with the web designers or app designers or the overlords

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Speaker 3: of fantasy football, and I just want to make it

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Speaker 3: where it is PPR based on air yards, right, So

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Speaker 3: like if it's a dump off, you get no points.

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Speaker 3: If it's like a five yard airyard pass, you get

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Speaker 3: like zero point twenty five or point five, and then

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Speaker 3: it gets it, it increases.

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Speaker 2: Boom, No lead PPR alone, don't touch it.

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Speaker 1: Just let it be.

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Speaker 2: Let it be its thing. It's the cool standard.

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Speaker 3: Not all catches are equal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so why he caught the bomb rewarding? Man?

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Speaker 1: No, man, that's that's garbage.

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Speaker 4: This is because Lakwan loves small slot receivers and that's

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Speaker 4: their bread and butter.

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Speaker 2: He we love small slot wise.

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Speaker 1: Receivers because he wants because he wants to keep drafting

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Speaker 1: the two two at Wells and Greg Dortch's of the world.

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Speaker 2: That's why Greg Dortch was a thing to two at

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Speaker 2: Well did not work out well last season for weeks.

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Speaker 2: It was more than three weeks in totality of when

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Speaker 2: he flashed in the Fantasy realm. Okay, when DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 2: Marquis Hollywood Brown was hurt, who would they go to?

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Speaker 2: Who was the most reliable target out of that wide

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Speaker 2: receiver group. It was Greg dortsch ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this was that. Again, this was not how the

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Speaker 1: show was supposed to start.

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Speaker 4: But here we are when all the other guys weren't there.

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Speaker 3: He was the guy right.

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Speaker 1: Exactly when everybody else got fanos.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey hey, Drew Petchen used to use him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he refused to use him because they didn't run the

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Speaker 2: three wide receiver sets as often.

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Speaker 1: It's fine when Shadow struck ant Man became the Greatest Avenger, like,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're doing here, all right, don't do that?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that news that has happened since we last talked

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Speaker 1: to you will also kind of catch up on some

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Speaker 1: things that's got to hit late in the show last

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Speaker 1: plus some of our favorite moves, least favorite moves, and

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Speaker 1: some kind of early winners and losers. Obviously subject to change.

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Speaker 1: This first thing Doon had immediate fantasy impact, but it

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Speaker 1: was kind of the biggest news of the day when

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Speaker 1: it happened, that being the Ravens deciding, nah, we're good

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Speaker 1: on giving you two first round picks for Max Crosby. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, friendship ended with Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson now

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Speaker 1: my best friend. He signs with the Baltimore Ravens, leaving

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. The Raiders end up losing about thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollar in cap space, plus they lose those two

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Speaker 1: first round draft picks that they got. This is Florida

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Speaker 1: sort of changes kind of how free agency goes, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Raiders went out, they spent big on defense.

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Speaker 1: They obviously still have the number one pick, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna have some ripple effects,

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Speaker 1: not just on the Baltimore in Vegas side, but you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe who else gets targeted. Right, Trey Hendrickson might not

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Speaker 1: have gone to Baltimore, Well, would not have gone to

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Speaker 1: Baltimore if this had happened. This is sort of impactful.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, it sounded like.

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Speaker 3: He was going to be a cult and then who

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Speaker 3: knows that the Colts give all that money to you know,

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Speaker 3: like it was a ripple effect here. But it also

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Speaker 3: it might not be over with because yes, the Raiders

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Speaker 3: lose thirty million, and I know Max Crosby is tweeting

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Speaker 3: like an I'm back and like I'm a Raider for

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Speaker 3: life or something like that. But I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 3: if they continue to try to shop him. The issue though,

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Speaker 3: is now that like a lot of teams that were interested,

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Speaker 3: like I know, the bills came out and they were like,

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Speaker 3: we were interested, but are situation isn't what it was

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Speaker 3: when we were interested two weeks ago. Like a lot

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Speaker 3: of these teams that had an interest in Max Crosby

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Speaker 3: were like, well, we missed out on him. We got

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Speaker 3: to spend that money somewhere else. And I put this

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Speaker 3: it on there. I don't have sources. I'm not talking

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Speaker 3: to people in the Ravens organization or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: but just as someone who reads the Tea leaves and

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Speaker 3: were like, we could have had Trey Hendrickson for Max

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Speaker 3: Crosby money without giving up our two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: And then they were like, we don't like the way

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Speaker 3: his knee looks. And then they spun because there was

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Speaker 3: no word about we wanted both of these guys until

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Speaker 3: after it all happened, you know, And like if I

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Speaker 3: what why don't we just tell them we were in

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Speaker 3: on both like that and we're upset we our plans

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Speaker 3: got ruined. Like that's what it felt like to me.

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy though, Like we've seen an example

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Speaker 2: of a player getting a physical and it's not being great, right,

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Speaker 2: and like you would think the player gets shipped back,

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Speaker 2: But look at Brett Faarr when he got traded from

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Speaker 2: a very serious one, but first year GM ron Wolf

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Speaker 2: was like, no, pass them and they got him. And

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Speaker 2: that truly showed that you believe in the player and

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Speaker 2: you actually wanted the player. And I think the Ravens

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Speaker 2: poll on this is exactly what Florio said. They were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we can keep our picks and then get Trey Henickerson.

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Speaker 1: It's also it was also common knowledge that that Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby had just had offseason surgery, but all reports for

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Speaker 1: that he was on that he was on track, that

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Speaker 1: he was on track to be ready to go for

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it like can you imagine Max just sitting

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Speaker 2: in a room and they all huddled up together like

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Speaker 2: we're going to do Plan B, Like that's that's what

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Speaker 2: it just looked like. It felt like I give I'm

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Speaker 3: A shot out to our boy, Ian Rappaport because when

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Speaker 3: it happened and they were like, oh, well, we didn't

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Speaker 3: know the knee was this bad. He posted he was

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Speaker 3: like from Super Bowl Sunday, my article saying that Max

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Speaker 3: Crosby had a meniscus cleanup and not you know, a

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Speaker 3: small procedure or whatever. And then everything that I've read

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Speaker 3: and heard and watched was like, yeah, there's no way

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Speaker 3: he was going to pass a physical because his knee

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Speaker 3: is not intact right now and you knew that when

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Speaker 3: you traded for him, and like this is the third

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Speaker 3: time in the last eight years that the Ravens have

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Speaker 3: done this. I know. I had a lot of Ravens

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Speaker 3: fans in my mentions being like stick to what you know,

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Speaker 3: and like you weren't there and what are they supposed

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Speaker 3: to just accept his medical and like this this feels

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Speaker 3: like a U problem.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not happening to other teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it. Just it feels a little bit wonky.

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Speaker 3: Poor Max was in Baltimore, Yeah, man for days. Yo.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the Instagram post like he was happy?

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Speaker 1: You know, well, I hope you enjoyed the Inner Harbor.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were in too deep to get out of this.

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Speaker 2: I know, there's an actual Manchester Ny fan right now.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Lakwan's gonna dye his hair blonde and

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no stop. We might ever get to

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Speaker 1: get that into elsewhere. Kyler Murray has been released. All

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Speaker 2: You're not crazy. I mean like when we think about

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm trying to get myself

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Speaker 3: What you guys are saying is in the realms of possibility, right,

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Speaker 3: I just trust Koc more than Drew Petsing the last

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Speaker 4: It's just like.

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Speaker 3: KOC has elevated quarterbacks not named JJ McCarthy before. But

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Speaker 3: Kyler only played five games this past year, seventeen games

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Speaker 3: And if you remember that year, that was when everyone

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Speaker 3: never going to view Kyler as we did a few

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Speaker 3: years ago, right where like I'm taking him top five,

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Speaker 4: Of that, but I don't think it's going to cost

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Speaker 3: So if he's costing me a low end QB one

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Speaker 3: it's easy for me to get excited. Because we've never

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be. I think he's going

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Speaker 4: I'll take him there, especially with those weapons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like all everything you say is fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with any of it. I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I will have my quarterback or quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: before I am looking at Kyler Murray I get. I think.

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Speaker 1: I just think I'm just burned out.

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Speaker 3: I just I think Kyler fatigued though, because he's never

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Speaker 3: didn't think was going to be what he was with

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Speaker 1: True, we also want drafting. It just happened a couple

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Speaker 1: other notes before we had a break, Brandon, you can

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Speaker 1: expected to be released. Welcome to the commanders. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the commanders. I mean that's kind of all I got

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Speaker 1: I think they want to get something for him. I

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Speaker 1: think there's still something there with Brandon. I you like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's still a talented player, just you know,

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Speaker 1: I think his problems are all from the neck up.

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Speaker 1: I think that's mostly what it is.

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Speaker 4: So does he play more than half a season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be with his buddy Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: The drafting him if he is a commander, that is the.

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Speaker 1: Real question where he had some question of where does if.

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Speaker 3: I'm drafting him as a starter, absolutely not. But if

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Speaker 3: I could draft him in the reserve rounds, absolutely yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean yeah, everything has a price, Okay, cheap

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Speaker 2: is cheap, Cheap is free. Okay. I look at it

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Speaker 2: How I'm looking at it, because again, this seems like

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Speaker 2: we were looking at him like, Yo, are you going

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Speaker 3: Are you good?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be able to be the wide

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Speaker 2: played football in a very long time. What level of

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Speaker 2: What is he getting off the street?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's fair, But I also think

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Speaker 2: The less than five people believe in him.

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Speaker 3: Even when they signed him, he was like, I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent in is. I can't forget that

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Speaker 2: What was the motivation?

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Speaker 3: You think he's going to go to where he finally

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Speaker 1: I mean it could happen, or he could I'm.

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Speaker 3: It would have to be absolutely I guess one of

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Not a couple of backup running backs sign that

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Speaker 3: of a world where Amaron Hampton is gonna get used

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00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: in the passing game a lot, and he's going to

437
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: be more than likely a top ten, top twelve running

438
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 3: back for me in my rankings.

439
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, all right, I like that deversation.

440
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: That's a conversation. It's kind of spicy, but I like it.

441
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed the other thing. Jaguars signed Chris Rodriguez

442
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: formally exactly why is that bad news for bacial twit?

443
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: And more importantly, is that worst news for Laquin Allen.

444
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: First of all, magic brung a vl Q. But at

445
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: the end of the day, right, I know, the immediate

446
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: reaction is like, Okay, Liam Cohen gets back with his boy,

447
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: you know, in a running back that he you know,

448
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: coaching Kentucky. Like yeah, cool, great, I mean he had

449
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred yards in that season. But I look at

450
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: this as like, now Liam Cohen's starting to get his

451
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: running back picture formed. Okay, so he's starting to get

452
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: that one two punch in his vision like traves E

453
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: ten was already there as the workhorse. Like we knew

454
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Tuton had talent. Touton

455
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: has the ability to be explosive at times. We saw

456
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: him used in the goal line area a ton and

457
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: he had a lot of success. So I think that

458
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez will have his role in soul will Tuton,

459
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: Like we'll have that twenty twenty four type season where

460
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: we had a Bucky Airman and Rashad White both fantasy relevant,

461
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: both top twenty four running backs that season. So I'm

462
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: looking more so of like, have your expectations for Touton

463
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: as like he'll have some strong RB two weeks because

464
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: of the scoring opportunities that he gets.

465
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: John Shipley, who does a great job covering the Jaguars,

466
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: sort of made the point that he thinks it could

467
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: be kind of a three headed attack where you know,

468
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: you've got Rodriguez and Touton sort of taking the bulk

469
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: of it, but Allen kind of getting in there potentially

470
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: as kind of a grinder as well. Basically, his takeaway was,

471
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really good for football. Fantasy

472
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: is probably gonna hat so that is, you know, kind

473
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: of something to keep in mind for that go ahead.

474
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: Now I was gonna say, I mean, yeah, fantasy is

475
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: gonna hate it because it's not too and getting max workload,

476
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: that's what most people want from these running backs. Where

477
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: it's like we're ignoring the I would say the trend

478
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: of these backfields are being a one to two punch

479
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: and we're seeing it done on a successful level, So

480
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: why can't this not be a product of that When

481
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: we have the successor in Liam wu who's calling the shot.

482
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a one two punch.

483
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: I think my fear is it's going to be a

484
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: three headed monster. And that's the thing we have not

485
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: figured out that's the thing that we do not like

486
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: a one two punch. Yeah, we can figure that out.

487
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: That's fine. The question is, is Leaquinn Allen still going

488
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: to be a part of this And if it's a

489
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: three headed backfield, then I'm out, that's.

490
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 4: A team two in here.

491
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all rooting for Tuton. I'm fine rooting

492
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: for Tuton. I just need to know it's just gonna

493
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: be him and And the thing is.

494
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: You won't have to pay a premium price for Tuton,

495
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: like last year we were paying what tank Bigsby two

496
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: and in Traves, ETN Close and ADB, Like that's probably

497
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: what it'll end up being with Chris Rodriguez in too,

498
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna have to pay these premium prices

499
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: for them to get I thought we would have.

500
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: To pay a premium to get to and after et

501
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: and left and then I saw the reaction with the

502
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: Chris Rodriguez.

503
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 4: Signing and I was like, cool, let me take him

504
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: for cheaper.

505
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of what it is.

506
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: I just hope that it's enough for two, that it's

507
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: still worthwhile, and that again, like Lequin Allen is potentially

508
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: the fly in the ointment here, like if you don't

509
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: have to be great, he just has to get enough

510
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: to make us angry. And I'm worried that that's what's

511
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: going to happen. So we'll see play more to talk

512
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: about take quick break, come back, and kind of catch

513
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: up on some few things that we didn't really get

514
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: to in depth at the end of the last show.

515
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, a few

516
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: things that hit lates in our most recent show. Wanted

517
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: to kind of circle back and talk about him a

518
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: little bit. One the Colts and Daniel Jones analyzing a

519
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: two year deal worth eighty eight million dollars could be

520
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: worth I think with incentives up to one hundred million potentially,

521
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: which I know that Jones said he wanted to get

522
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: fifty million per so he has the potential to do

523
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: that if he hit some of those incentives. Lakwandas that

524
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: means your Riley Leonard dream is dead. Correct, it's over?

525
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: No, No, why do you think it's over? Why would

526
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: it be over.

527
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Because you're not playing Riley Leonard over a healthy Daniel Jones.

528
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: Not with that.

529
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: Investment and the way the contract looks, it looks like

530
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: they gave him a nice forty four million dollars signing

531
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: bonusing thank you for your services last year. But you're

532
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: not hitting or killing a book.

533
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's it.

534
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that they're going

535
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: to ship them. I'm just saying there's no rushback for

536
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: him to get back on the field. It's an achilles injury, folks.

537
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: They have what they're looking for in house, and Riley

538
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: Leonard like, we really need to start mapping this out. Okay,

539
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: he's twenty nine years old coming back from an injury.

540
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: We just saw Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins not really

541
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: perform at a high level to be able to be

542
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: a fifty.

543
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: Million at much more advanced age.

544
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: He's twenty nine. Is he going to be mobile? Is

545
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: he going to be as mobile? Because even last year

546
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Dan Jones wasn't running as much. And if you were

547
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: trying to run an offense where you can attack down

548
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: field and have some mobility, Riley Lennard is your quarterback,

549
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: You give him a give him an opportunity.

550
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: No, this has been before that.

551
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: This has been the belief because again, what they're looking

552
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: for is literally in Riley Leonard. There's nothing you could

553
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: tell me different from what you can say an achilles

554
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: returning injury from a quarterback that is semi mobile who

555
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: wasn't even mobile last year. He didn't run as much

556
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: to somebody that is more dangerous in open space as

557
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: a runner that has some Josh Allen attitude to him.

558
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: If you turn on the tape and watch him run,

559
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: like he's able to be that quarterback they want him

560
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: to be.

561
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Speaker 3: If they if they had paid Daniel Jones like last

562
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 3: year and then he tore his achilles, maybe.

563
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: There'd be some legs to this.

564
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: But they they've he's torn it already and they gave

565
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: gave him almost one hundred million for two years like

566
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 3: these their god the next two years.

567
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: But they haven't out in twenty seven. No, they haven't

568
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: out in twenty seven to where they can save thirty

569
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: eight and cut them the roster.

570
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: But they have this to sit.

571
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: But it's a huge dead cap number.

572
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: Listen, we've seen people eat dead cap these last couple

573
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: of days where it's like, hey, oh, well look at you.

574
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: That was a nuclear option, man, I mean, when you've

575
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: seen it done so okay, the Rams were in cap

576
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: hell and dead cap when we had Clayton Matthews, Todd B.

577
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: Gurley still in the books, the Jared golf train, like

578
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: these things have all happened. These teams want to navigate

579
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: through cap.

580
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: You paid Todd Gurley and then he had the knee

581
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: issue and then that like the Colts knew what they

582
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: were getting themselves into before giving him this deal.

583
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: A twenty nine year old quarterback that is reliant on

584
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: having the mobility is now gone and an Achilles engine.

585
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: I am not a Daniel Jones fan. I've made that clear.

586
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I was last year, but I'm just changing the tune.

587
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: I think they overpaid him. I thought last year he

588
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: started hot and then I was like, I don't believe

589
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: this at all, and he became the Daniel Jones that

590
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: we know and love. I get all of that, but

591
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: they're not going to give someone fifty million dollars to

592
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: play for them this year and then be like, we're

593
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: gonna sit you for a guy that we've already watched

594
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: practice for a whole year.

595
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: So let's say this.

596
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: If Daniel Jones right, he comes in and he's not

597
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: playing up the part. He turns it to the pumpkin

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: that we've saw last season right on the back end. Right,

599
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: he's not playing well. He's not as mobile. He doesn't

600
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: have the mobility in the pocket to extend the plays.

601
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: You're telling me they won't bench him and play Riley

602
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: Leonard being somebody that is healthy, a twenty three year

603
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: old guy his last year Notre Dame. Oh, let me

604
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: let me backtrack. Okay, in the last ten years of

605
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: college football, how many quarterbacks you think threw the ball

606
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: four hundred times and ran nine hundred yards in a

607
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: single season. Sew many?

608
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Three? Four many?

609
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: It's only two, Okay, Lamar Jackson who did it twice

610
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: in Riley Leonard.

611
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: We're not We're not gonna sit here and compare lot

612
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Yes Jackson.

613
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: All right, Lamar Jackson.

614
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Jackson ran more in those seasons.

615
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: We're not doing that.

616
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: You put a little bit more air on the ball

617
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred yards in both seasons he did it.

618
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: But Riley Leonard threw the ball four hundred times. So

619
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: that shows that he has the ability to get out

620
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: of the pocket with the nine hundred yards and get

621
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: the yardage and be a threat in the red zone

622
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: with his legs as well. By the way, seventeen rushing touchdowns.

623
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: You're telling me, there's just not Look, I know that's

624
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: your guy. There's not a word they're telling me about

625
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna get.

626
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna pay this guy franchise quarterback money, and we're

627
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: gonna You paid him up front.

628
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: You gave him forty four million. It's in his pocket.

629
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for what you did last year, But you

630
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: were a fourteen million dollar NFL year.

631
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: NFL teams don't pay you for past performance. They pay

632
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: you for future expectations. Like, that's just not how things work, man.

633
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: There was no world where they were like, thank you

634
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: for last year. Here's forty million.

635
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't get a chunk of that money, that that

636
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: base salary until twenty seven. He is not healthy right now.

637
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Why are we going to have him killed the cap

638
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: this year expecting him week one to be what we

639
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: saw in the first ten.

640
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: He might not be ready week one, but when when

641
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: he is ready and able, there is no world where

642
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: they are playing Riley Leonard over him.

643
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: All I'm doing is opening the door that in this

644
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: timeframe of today until week one, Riley Leonard has a

645
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: chance to make noise in camp and actually take that

646
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: job from Daniel Jones and they haven't out in twenty seven.

647
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: He's not taking the job from Daniel Jones. Okay, he's

648
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: not taking the you think Riley Leonard is going to.

649
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: He's a six round pick man.

650
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Look at the Houston game against starters. Daniel Humler won

651
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: in that one game he came in. No, he came

652
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: in for injured Daniel Jones against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Right, Yeah,

653
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: he made mistakes in that game, but he did not.

654
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: I would tell you stay up the place. There was hope,

655
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: there was belief, and again I know how that Houston

656
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: game ended. It ended nasty, like we're not going to

657
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: talk about you know, yeah, to talk about it. But

658
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the date, he still had two

659
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: of those touchdowns. Right, two of those touchdowns came against

660
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: the starting big bat of the South Texans. That defense

661
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: still had it, Derek Stingley, because that second touchdown that

662
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Kyrie putt in the highlights you know last show was

663
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: against a starter.

664
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: Didn't the Texans already have everything clinched up that game?

665
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: Listen, they had came back in that game, and listen,

666
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: they put up thirty points in that game. That is

667
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: the most points the coach put up since Week ten

668
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: with a healthy Daniel Jones, So again the door is open.

669
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

670
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: So they didn't do it with Philip Rivers because they

671
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 2: wanted immediate production. I understand why you go out and

672
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: call familiar face, somebody who used to be a cult Yes,

673
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: because you think he's going to come in and be

674
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: able to bring that fire, because he already has it

675
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: between in the eyes. They were not gonna be willing

676
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: to let the rest of the back end of that

677
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: season with playoff contentions look to a rookie that but

678
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: here's not fully ready.

679
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Why did they If that forty million was a thank

680
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: you for last season.

681
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they just let him walk?

682
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: They didn't.

683
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: They didn't have to give him a cent as we

684
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: see the market?

685
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: Did we see the market? And they're still no.

686
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: But if they have Riley Leonard, their future.

687
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Government is lear is that dude?

688
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: Why are you They don't know that yet? It's all

689
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: opportunity right now. If you look at what he's flash

690
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: and what's on his utility belt, they better pay attention.

691
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money on a guess.

692
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: We're saying they don't know yet. They know him better

693
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: than we do. They are with him every single day,

694
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: they are watching him play every single day. And they

695
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: made this decision.

696
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: Because who else where they going to get? Who else

697
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: who was.

698
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: Going to be out there for them? Kyler Murray for

699
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: a million dollars or if Riley Leonard's your started, bring

700
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: in Kirk Cousins a lot.

701
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: Of money on a guess that's a lot. I didn't

702
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: really think we're gonna spend this long on Riley Leonard.

703
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: I had no yes tools.

704
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't play. I'm saying there's not

705
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: a world where they're gonna play him over Daniel Jones

706
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: after giving Daniel Jones this contract.

707
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: If Dan Jones isn't healthy, is Dane Jones is stinking

708
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: out the place at his week six? You're telling me

709
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: they're not gonna pull the plug for Riley Leonard or

710
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna call Philip Rivers again. What do you think

711
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: is the better scenario that will possibly But even in.

712
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: That scenario, that doesn't mean Riley Leonard won the job.

713
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: That means Daniel Jones lost it. That's what that means.

714
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: That's what it means, or what I'm saying is that

715
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: the window is open now. He has opportunity to make

716
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: as much noise as possible in camp because listen, if

717
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: they go on and sign another quarterback, sayd they signed

718
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy g Say they signed like a Kirk Carson Wentz right,

719
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: then I'll be like, okay, we're in trouble. But that

720
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: has not happened yet. They paid Daniel Jones. They are

721
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: looking at Riley Leonard as their backup because I know

722
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: somebody in that building. Yes, it has the eyes and

723
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: look at the utility belt knowing he's.

724
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Doing that's fine. Is their backup?

725
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

726
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with That's their backup if something. If

727
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: something goes wrong with Daniel Jones, then Riley Leonard plays.

728
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: That is how backups work from the legendary Joe Hendry.

729
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Don't tell me it's not possible, because anything is possible

730
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: when you believe. Okay, Riley Leonard has opportunity to be

731
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: a starter.

732
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're

733
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: fast asleep. Yeah, man, I watched Disney movies too. Just okay. Anyway, Patriots,

734
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: they signed Romeo Dobbs to a four year contract. I

735
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: know when a first happened, we were all like, oh, yeah,

736
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: this party was like, is Romeo Dobbs really just another

737
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver two? Like, are they just collecting wide receiver twos?

738
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Are they just collecting wide receiver twos? Is he okay? Yeah,

739
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe he's an upgrade. Maybe he's an upgrade. Oh for

740
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you know Mario Douglas, Kayshaun body. But is he a

741
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: significant upgrade over those guys?

742
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean by the amount of snaps he's put in

743
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: over there in Green Bay, like he was treated as

744
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: the wide receiver one. He was the only one that

745
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: wasn't coming off the field.

746
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: So it's because Matt Lafleur refused to acknowledge that they

747
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: had one.

748
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they all got whispered in their ear they're

749
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: a wide receiver one, because we've all seen them crash

750
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: out in some sort of fashion that wait, I'm the

751
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: wide receiver one, Like all right, but I think him

752
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: going to New England, Yes, that puts him as a

753
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: wide receiver one in that room. Because again, we like

754
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: mac Hollins, who like Kyshan Boody, we love Pop Douglas,

755
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: but like they needed somebody to have that actual presence

756
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: and experience as an actual one on a team. So

757
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: I think this is really good for Romeo Dobs to be,

758
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, at least in the consideration to have a

759
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: high end wide receiver. Two tag on him.

760
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still am excited by this move.

761
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: I like it.

762
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: Some people don't like it, but he could be. You

763
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: can't really hate it. Though I don't hate it.

764
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I just wonder if we're getting ourselves a little too

765
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: gassed up about it.

766
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: Gashed up to what price?

767
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Though?

768
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: Like, what are you seeing we're hearing? Like what do

769
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: you feel like?

770
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but everybody's just like you need it

771
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: because we have been so envious, not envious, wishful, hopeful

772
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: of the Patriots signing a wide receiver and they finally

773
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: did it. I mean sort of like the way and

774
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: maybe this is an extreme example, but sort of like

775
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: we were like, hey man, the Packers spent a first

776
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: round pick on a wide receiver, but it was Matthew

777
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Golden and it turned out to at least in year one,

778
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: be nothing like is this that?

779
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the expectations you have for Dobbs,

780
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: But I do think Dobbs could put up like it

781
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me at all if he has a career

782
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: year this next season, because too, like, yes, he never

783
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: left a field in Green Bay, but they always had

784
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: a very crowded room there right, Like they had Tucker

785
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Kraft and then there's Watson and all these other receivers.

786
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: And on top of that, they were like a bottom

787
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: three pass play team the last couple of years.

788
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: So like, they run the ball at such a high.

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: Rate that I think it it made his numbers not

790
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 3: look great. But on like a PERD target basis and stuff,

791
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: he's a quality receiver, I think, and I think he

792
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: he could be the possession guy for them, but he

793
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: could like Matt Collins is a field stretcher, Keishambouti is

794
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: a field stretcher, Bob Douglass is a slot guy. Like

795
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: we know that at this point, I think Dobbs comes

796
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: in as their best true X. But I also would

797
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 3: not be surprised at all if they use a premium

798
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: pick in the draft.

799
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: On a receiver.

800
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I just saw this as you guys were talking. The

801
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: Colts have put out a tweet basically basically saying Daniel

802
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: Jones is their QB one.

803
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, him looking like the rock, he said I'll be

804
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: ready for week one.

805
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, right, he's doing the US can you smell

806
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: what the rock is cooking? Whole things like.

807
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: If Riley Leonard starts week one because Daniel Jones can't play,

808
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: it's very different.

809
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: Don't bring it back. Don't bring it back because we

810
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: will spend it. We will spend another We don't have

811
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: ten minutes on this, don't you really don't have time.

812
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: I will go back in the bag.

813
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Stop. If if Matthew Stafford's and Cinson Bennett plays week one,

814
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: he's he's the starter, he's better.

815
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: We've lost the play. He's walked away. I don't know

816
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: suer qb ones or former qb ones. The Raiders did

817
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: send Geno Smith to the New York Jetropolitans. I'm pete.

818
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Carrol came out and says he takes the blame for

819
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Geno Smith struggling, which is very diplomatic of him. I mean,

820
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: he very easily could have just thron Chip Kelly under

821
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: the bus because that offense was terrible. Yeah, I know,

822
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Geno's excited about it. He says he's gonna, you know,

823
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: sort of re establish his relationship with the New York

824
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: fans because that ended really badly because you know didn't

825
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: play well. Loyle. You you have you know friends who

826
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: are Jets fans. I mean, I don't know what the

827
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: pulse is of Jets Nation. And my question is to

828
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: you is is Gino was last year just a bad

829
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: situation or is it the Geno's kind of washed? Now?

830
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 3: My friend Jet fan friends are happy with this move

831
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: because they think it's better than the alternatives, and I agree.

832
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: I think Geno was the best possible realistic scenario for

833
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: the Jets.

834
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: Is he truly washed?

835
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't think we have a full answer on that,

836
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: because yes, he didn't look great at all last year.

837
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: He led the league in turnover, in interceptions and stuff,

838
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: but the O line was all time bad. They fired

839
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: their oc mid season, brock Bauers was out a whole

840
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: bunch of time, which left Trey Tucker as their one.

841
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: Like it, there is a world where I could see

842
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: Geno Smith playing not again, He's not gonna set the

843
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: world on fire, but could he play like how he

844
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: did is Tots the end of his Seattle tenure in

845
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: New York?

846
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: I think so.

847
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: I also think if you're just putting a fantasy spin

848
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: on this for the Jets. He was significantly better last

849
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: year on passes out wide and downfield than either Tyrod Taylor.

850
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: Or Justin Field.

851
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: So if you're Garrett Wilson or if you're invested in

852
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, I.

853
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: Think that is a good thing for him.

854
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: And he was also dumping the ball off at an

855
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: extremely high rate, which if they continue to do that

856
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: could mean a lot more dump offs for Breese Hall.

857
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: So while I don't want anything to do with Geno

858
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: Smith for fantasy, I do think the situation improved. Like

859
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: and I'm probably not gonna I'll tell you today, I'm

860
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: probably not gonna be in on Wilson or Breese Hall

861
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: at costs, but I do think if you are, this

862
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: is better for them than what they.

863
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: Had last season.

864
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where it ends up, right, It's

865
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: better what they had last season, for whatever that's worth.

866
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it last year where they went

867
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor, Brett cook Tyron Breese Hall

868
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: through a touchdown pass.

869
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about Beddy cook Man.

870
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: I mean my mind just warped that out.

871
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: There's there was not much reason for you to really.

872
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: Because Wilson, But you know, who played better though, and

873
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: like me, at the gap, Riley Leonard, he put the

874
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: gap between him. JJ McCarthy. I think Riley Leonard was

875
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: probably one of the best quarterback rookies to play in there,

876
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: you know, debuts a starter.

877
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, one of the best quarterback rookies. I mean,

878
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: how many rookie quarterbacks. I mean, look, we had a couple.

879
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Cam war was in there, Shador got in there, Dylan

880
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: Gabriel got in there.

881
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: I think Riley looked better just saying.

882
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: Game and a half.

883
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Look, oh my god, you are all people.

884
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: Floria.

885
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: I would think you will be on the Riley train.

886
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: I thought you will be a big believer.

887
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: It's nothing that I think you're hyping him up to

888
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: a level that is.

889
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Just too far right now, nah man, I mean I've

890
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: done this before. I've stood on this stage and there's

891
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: nobody in the audience listening of what I'm talking. And

892
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: then I end up writing, who was listening in February

893
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: about Harri fan and Junior to be a top five

894
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: tight end? And here we are fact So we didn't.

895
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Argue with you about that. We were just like, all right,

896
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: I like, I really liked Fanning as a prospect.

897
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: No, there were plenty of people. Go to the thread,

898
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: there was plenty of people and he didn't even have

899
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: a team yet. Like, come on, by the way, for

900
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: just keeping it a buck.

901
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: Quinn yours had more passing yards and fewer games than

902
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard. O. Here you go.

903
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: You went digging.

904
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: You went digging. I mean you just you're gonna throw

905
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: things out there, like we got to back it up

906
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: with factuals.

907
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just came in against Houston, the big

908
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: bat at the South put up two seventy and three touchdowns.

909
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Stop stop.

910
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: It was a good game. That was also the same

911
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that was the same logic that we tried to use

912
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: to like pretend that Jared Stidham could make it a

913
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: game against the Patriots in the AFC Championship.

914
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: There was a stretch where Temmy DeVito looked like a

915
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: future QB one.

916
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: A Tommy Cutlers.

917
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: My guy got a deal, he got paid.

918
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Riley Leonard can be a quality backup for the Colts,

919
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: but he's going to be the backup, you know, eventually,

920
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: starter period, end of story. Like that's it, and he's

921
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: the starter. When something happens to Daniel Jones or Daniel

922
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Jones leaves via free agency and he's still there. But no,

923
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: he's not just gonna anyway. That's I work done with that.

924
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: I'm more curious where Anthony Richardson ends up.

925
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it'll take a break. We'll come Minnesota. We'll

926
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: talk about some winners, losers, things we like, things we

927
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: don't like. That's all coming up next on the NFL

928
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. I was gonna say like winners and losers.

929
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: I think I did say that before we went to break.

930
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: It's really hard to say winners, and it's hard to

931
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: say winners and losers at this point. Right things are

932
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: still gonna happen, There'll still be a few more signings,

933
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: got the draft coming. But maybe this is like what

934
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: does this mean for certain guys who are in certain

935
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: spots already? And part of what inspired this was Florida.

936
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned that our text chat that you were on

937
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: the Insiders and you were saying that you really don't

938
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: like what Malik Willis means for Devon eighth chance. So

939
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your your read I have

940
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: no feeling about it one way or another. I just

941
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: want to hear your reasoning for it.

942
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Devon Hchan is someone that the last two years

943
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: I've been enamored with and I think he's an awesome player.

944
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: I probably will not draft him this much this summer

945
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: because I still think he's gonna cost what running back price,

946
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: and I think, on one hand, losing Mike McDaniel is huge.

947
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel had a very good run scheme. He had

948
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: drewn up a lot of design pass plays for Devon

949
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: h Chan, and the pass plays are what really worried me,

950
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: because over the last two years, two through twenty percent

951
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: of his passes to the backfield, second highest rate in

952
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: the NFL in that same side sample size. I know

953
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: he didn't play as much as Tua, but Willis through

954
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: eight percent of his passes to running backs that was

955
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: the lowest amount in the NFL.

956
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: And over the last two years.

957
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: No running back has more catches than Devon h Chan

958
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: and only Beijon and Gibbs have more receiving yards. So

959
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: I think it's possible that there's just gonna be more

960
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: design stuff for him because he's so good. So willis

961
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: Is percent could go up, It's never gonna be anywhere

962
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: near twenty percent. He's gonna be one of those quarterbacks

963
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: in my opinion that if he feels pressure instead of Tua,

964
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: who would be like, where's a Chan? Let me get

965
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: rid of it. He's gonna use his legs and extend

966
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: the play. And on top of that, a Chan had

967
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: one goal line. Look last year, you gotta worry about

968
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: the touch push now coming. But if he's catches goes down? Right, Like,

969
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: there's two ways I think of having success as a

970
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: running back in fantasy, Like like top five success, you

971
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: got to either catch a lot of passes or score

972
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: a lot of touchdowns. And if the passes are gonna

973
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: go down, I'm not certain the touchdowns are going to

974
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: be there.

975
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 4: Like it to It just adds a whole lot of risk.

976
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: And I look, if everyone else feels the same way

977
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: I do in his price drops, then I'll reassess. But

978
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: I'm still viewing him as if he's gonna be one

979
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: of the premium running backs going off the board, and

980
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: I just think there's too much risk there right now

981
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: for me.

982
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: So I think it's funny because when we first talked

983
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: about to you know, getting released and then going to

984
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the thing that we all said was man's

985
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna get so many targets, all right, And so this

986
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: is sort of I guess the reverse side. It's the

987
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: flip side of that coin that now you have a

988
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: quarterback who is mobile, who is probably likely instead of

989
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: having panic targets going toward the von H. And when

990
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: Leak Wilson is like, you know it, I'll just take

991
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it myself. You know's like either I can run for

992
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: these five yards or I can dump it off to

993
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: the von H.

994
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: You know what I think happens though, Like I think

995
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: Chen gets dropped to that tier wherever Kyra Williams is

996
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: right because like he is gonna lose catches and understand,

997
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: like the Dolphins when they got in the striking distance,

998
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: they like to throw the ball to their running backs.

999
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: And if he's gonna lose that aspect of his game too,

1000
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: it's like he wasn't that great or had that many opportunities.

1001
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: And you know, in striking distance within the five yard line,

1002
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: and they have Oli Gordon there as well, who's a

1003
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: bigger body back who I think can handle that duty

1004
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: as well. So if we're gonna have to deal with

1005
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: a version of a Toush push when Malik like what

1006
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: do we call that? Like, I don't know, Like, I

1007
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: don't know.

1008
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: Do you think they do that one? Just it feels

1009
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: like that is a fad that's sort of passing a

1010
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: little bit.

1011
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: But also but it's not going away, so it gives

1012
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: it more time the master.

1013
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: But also Malik Willis is not the biggest guy.

1014
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: No, he is not a toush push, but I could

1015
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: see design runs near the goal line for him exactly.

1016
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: I think there's obviously a plan for him to keep

1017
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: him safe, you know. But at the end of the day,

1018
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: I think Devon Hchan, I'm more so excited for what

1019
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: it's going to look like happen to worry about him

1020
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: Milake Willis and then a Chan in a run game,

1021
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: Like I still think a Chan has that home run ability.

1022
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Obviously he's still gonna have those type of games where

1023
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna have like one hundred plus on the ground

1024
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: and maybe a touchdown or two that he ran back

1025
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: or caught back. Like I feel at the end of

1026
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: the day he should drop down to that late second

1027
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: round because if he's going as one of these top

1028
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: five running backs, then you're taking them over James Cook.

1029
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: You're taking them over at Derrick Henry, like Jonathan Taylor

1030
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: is still in conversation and is the top five back,

1031
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Like I think at the end of the day, like

1032
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: he may be cheap enough to where I'm still automatically

1033
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: and I don't think I'm gonna like fade him if

1034
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: he falls to me in that you know, right, as long.

1035
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: As you fade him. But it is a matter of

1036
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: like where like are you taking would you be taking

1037
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: him if he was still going you know, mid to

1038
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: late first round?

1039
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: No, I don't, Like, I don't think we could put

1040
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: him there because you got s m C gives Beijon.

1041
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: That's three running backs there, and then you have Johnathon

1042
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: Taylor or James Cook that I think that's my top five.

1043
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: In early I pulled up the Fantasy pros early rankings,

1044
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: he's the RB five over like Cook Overcook, Yeah, over

1045
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: gen C Hampton, and then Kyrin is RB seventeen.

1046
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna fall that far.

1047
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: All Wow, that's yeah, Why why are you excited? You

1048
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: don't even like Kyra Williams here. You don't even like

1049
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like you're gonna be hyping up whoever

1050
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: the rams taking out in the sixth round.

1051
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: Has not drop the ball. That was the main focus

1052
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: he took this off season to put the work in

1053
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: to hold onto the ball. He has been forgiven stop

1054
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: all right?

1055
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Cool? Uh A quick up, they guys, Trey Hendrickson has

1056
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: past his physical so raven right now, they didn't have one.

1057
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Just Michael Pittman is now in Pittsburgh. Uh what what

1058
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: do you feel like that means for him? Has anything

1059
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: really changed? Does it get better? Worse? How you feeling?

1060
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: It's yeah, okay, Let's let's see how it works with

1061
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: a DK Metcalf, because I think when we look at

1062
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: this move, it's like, Okay, now Rogers has a actual,

1063
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 2: you know, second option in an offense he can rely

1064
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: on in the wide receiver room. Like I know Calvin

1065
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: Austin was cool, Ben Skronic was great as a run blocker,

1066
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they need somebody

1067
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: to operate as a possession receiver for him, like as

1068
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: a number two to a DK Metcalf, where he still

1069
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: has that explosive if he can make the big plays

1070
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: like he will have those spike weeks. But at the

1071
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm not excited for Pittman himself,

1072
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: because it's not like he's about to get wide receiver

1073
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: one target share. He's about to get wide receiver two

1074
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 2: target share a lot what we saw last year because

1075
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: of Warren, because of you know, Alec Pierce. So like

1076
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: he's just going to be just ugh, he's my wide

1077
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: receiver three. I hope I can throw him in a

1078
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: flex and he puts up more than ten fantasy points.

1079
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I I think he can get wide receiver one target

1080
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: share in any context of the Steelers offense, Like I

1081
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: think I think Metcalf and Pittman can kind of be

1082
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: a on a one B. It's just that within the

1083
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: context of that offense, it's gonna be really unsatisfying, right,

1084
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: Like if they're both somewhere around ninety targets each right,

1085
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: like I see them, No, I fully you on it, right,

1086
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: but like they're aund each round ninety targets. I can

1087
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: see them with you know, somewhere between eight hundred nine

1088
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: hundred yards, Like it's just gonna be They're both gonna

1089
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: be guys that awful, but they're both they're both gonna

1090
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: be guys that are not They're gonna be those those

1091
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: sort of purgatory players, right, they're not good enough that

1092
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: you feel great with them in your lineup, but they're

1093
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: not bad enough that you're dropping.

1094
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: Them, which is why I want absolutely no part of them.

1095
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: And then why are we drafting them?

1096
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: And then when you try to put them in a trade,

1097
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be like, no, you're gonna have to

1098
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: come better than that, right. It's just like they're gonna

1099
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: be the sweetness to the deal. It's like, hey, like, hey,

1100
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: let's go with this guy for that guy, I'll give

1101
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: you dk me Jaff.

1102
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: You'd be like, I'm okay.

1103
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm not taking any Steeler. I've I've pretty much

1104
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: already decided.

1105
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: That I'm taking Rico. I'm on the Rica right now.

1106
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: If I was to think one, it would probably be him.

1107
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's going to be cheaper than Warren. Warren

1108
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: still has this Oh you think so, I don't think so.

1109
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I think Warren goes before him in drafts. Yeah, because

1110
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: of the PPR aspect of it. Was just going to

1111
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 2: have that passing games.

1112
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: Because I've drafted Jalen Warre in the last couple of

1113
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: years and been underwhelmed that I'm like, eh.

1114
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I can't do it again. No, I think

1115
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: Warren goes before Rico, but I'm in on Rico.

1116
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean if we if if Rico's going later, then sure, yeah, absolutely,

1117
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean I guess probably, but especially if he's going later,

1118
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: probably definitely a couple.

1119
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Of picks around. But as soon as Warren goes off

1120
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: the board, I already know, like, okay, I can get it. U.

1121
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: Wandell Robinson going to Tennessee. Lawan, you're you're the one

1122
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: that you always mentioned Calvin Ridley. I know you're. I

1123
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: think you're whole wishing that he comes back to fantasy relevance.

1124
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: Uh does this help or hurt having Wandell there?

1125
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Wanda is in the signing that's

1126
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna like like completely shut the door in Calvin Ridley,

1127
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like he's going to be

1128
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: a wide receiver too, in a sense that the Titians

1129
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: can hit the draft. I mean, they could figure out

1130
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: something with Calvin Ridley if he's staying as the one

1131
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: like I think he's more so of like they need

1132
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: somebody that can catch the ball, create yards after the catch,

1133
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: be a reliable target for our young quarterback that's developing.

1134
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 2: Because all we want is for campboard to complete the ball.

1135
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: So I think Wandell gives him the best opportunity of that.

1136
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: But like, I don't see him being like, hey, we

1137
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: got Wandell, let's get rid of Calvin Ridley. I think again,

1138
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: you could still figure out a way to use Ridley

1139
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: because he's still quick, he's still great in his route running.

1140
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: Like it's just that the chemistry and up and down

1141
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: roller coaster, the injury. It just was a bad season

1142
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: for Ridley.

1143
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, except we're starting to compile bads seasons now for Colvin,

1144
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: but starting to accumulated.

1145
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: As a fellow, huge Ridley believer. I think Wandell was

1146
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: like best case like because he's gonna be in the

1147
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: slot most of the time. They do different things, you know,

1148
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: Like Ridley is more of a field stretcher than he

1149
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: is a move that chained kind of guy. But I

1150
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: think the Titans, because most of their moves this offseason

1151
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: so far have gone to the defensive side. I think

1152
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: they're going to add a lot defensively in free agency

1153
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: and then a lot offensively in the draft. So I

1154
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: don't think he's out the clear by any means.

1155
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it obviously is him getting healthy just

1156
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: played seven games last year and.

1157
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: You really are Brandon Nyuk.

1158
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: If it's you, Commander, No, we're talking right now with

1159
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. Are Uk he play?

1160
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Is he actually gonna suit up and be on the field,

1161
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: like if he's on the Yes. The assumption in your

1162
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: question is that they are both playing and healthy or

1163
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: is it yes? It's high Uk all day, Like what

1164
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: are we? What are we talking about?

1165
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: Both for a mystery man. We'll see last one.

1166
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: This is going to be really really long. But Florida

1167
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: what he marks? Is it kind of rip with David

1168
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Montgomery and Houston?

1169
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want no.

1170
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Part of it.

1171
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: I think he'll still be like the past, catching back

1172
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: because that's not Monty's strength. But look, they replaced Titus

1173
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: Howard with the worst version of him.

1174
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 4: I just I don't want anything to do with Houston.

1175
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: Obviously, Nico Collins is someone that I'm interested in because

1176
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: he's Nico Collins, like Jayden Higgins Noel. I see the

1177
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: upside there with them, but it's hard for me to

1178
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: look past the last two years with c. J. Stroud

1179
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 3: and the declining O line play and the fact that

1180
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 3: I think they're going to run the ball more this

1181
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: year than they did last year because they have a

1182
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 3: better running back now on the roster. Maybe the draft

1183
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: will lead me to change my opinion, but as of today,

1184
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm like the Texans. I think are going to be

1185
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: what they were last year, a team that wants to

1186
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: play low scoring games, let their defense win, and they

1187
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: asked the offense to do just enough to win and

1188
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: not mess.

1189
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: It up for them. Yeah, playoffs, playoffs, They're still year.

1190
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean. Their defense is amazing, right,

1191
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean they are one of the top three four

1192
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL. Their offense is just good enough

1193
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: for them to win games, and so they think.

1194
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: It very easily. Oh my god, is that Riley Leonards music?

1195
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: Okay's face, I don't know that it was well done.

1196
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here. Look on your favorite

1197
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: and or a least favorite.

1198
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: Moves of a free agency so far, chick A conco

1199
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: to the Commanders. I honestly they that was such a

1200
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: great move. And and no, no, listen, I have not

1201
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: come down to who will be crowned the blonde banded

1202
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: this year?

1203
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: For me?

1204
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: Okay, top five and blonde I do so.

1205
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: I have questions and I know we're kind of getting

1206
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: a little long, but I have so I have questions,

1207
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: my first one being do you just want to be

1208
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: do you like dyeing your hair blonde? Like is this

1209
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: the thing you want to do? Like that's why I

1210
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: saw you choose, Like that's fine.

1211
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: I have come to the idea that yes, I want

1212
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: to do it because it shows like, hey, I hit

1213
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: on John Newt go blonde. Hey look at me. I

1214
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: did this to myself because I went blonde, because I

1215
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: was right on this call to do it back to

1216
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: back years with the Haro fan and JR. Then yes,

1217
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: I have to make this a spectacle. I have to

1218
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: make this like hey, why is this guy's blonde hair blonde?

1219
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: But because he projected a top five tight and outside

1220
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: the echo chamber?

1221
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but so like then. But that's my next

1222
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: question though, is like the way you frame it, like

1223
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: you frame it as though the blonde is a punishment like.

1224
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: It was at first.

1225
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it the first time with

1226
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: John new but Fanning, I wear it with pride Now

1227
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: It's it's going to be one of the things that

1228
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: I do every year where I have to find the

1229
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: tight end that nobody believes in that nobody's talking about.

1230
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: And they smash and the be the blonde hair. And

1231
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: it's only going to be for a couple of weeks

1232
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: to have it blonde. This is not going to be

1233
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: the permanent you know it overlaps and keep my hair blonde.

1234
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: No, it's I guess, I'm just I guess.

1235
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: I definitely think he's wanted to have blonde hair for

1236
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: a bit.

1237
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, if you just want to go blonde, I mean,

1238
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you gotta work that out obviously

1239
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: with your lovely wife.

1240
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: And you guys, it originated from Joe Burrow going blind

1241
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: like it was just you.

1242
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: Know what it is his lovely wife doesn't want him

1243
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: to have blonde hair. And now we can blame as

1244
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: to be like, well, it's not me.

1245
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: I said it on the podcast. I gotta do it now, babe,

1246
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: blinde Like, I just think, you know, if you want

1247
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: to go blonde, scoopelond, like, there's nothing wrong with that.

1248
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: It's fine.

1249
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: Chigg has upside though, let's be honest. I mean with

1250
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, we saw what zach Ertz was able to

1251
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: do in twenty four and again the touchdown opportunities like

1252
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: his ability after to catch is cut from the John

1253
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: New DNA, Like it's one of the things where it's

1254
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: like you're giving him opportunity to score touchdowns. Now, Yeah,

1255
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be bought into the talent into the situation.

1256
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: Like I understand that a lot of folks out there

1257
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: think about Ben Sennett or Ben Sinnatt. I know that's

1258
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: pretty much done now because this shows like a three

1259
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: year contract. Chiggs is very athletic type of tight end. Yeah,

1260
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have fun. So this means you're

1261
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: breaking up with Ronde Gainston.

1262
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: Is that it?

1263
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 2: I don't know yet. It's between Look this might sound crazy, dude,

1264
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 2: This this third one that because of the Chigs move,

1265
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: Gunner helm Man Gunner Helm Gunner Helm Chigs and Rondez

1266
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: Gaskins are in the pot right now for top five

1267
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: and blonde.

1268
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: Interesting all right, Floyo favorite or least favorite move so

1269
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: far a free agency.

1270
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 4: I really like Mike Evans going to the forty nine ers.

1271
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: It happened before it though, and I'm gonna take a

1272
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: different angle than you would think the DJ More trade.

1273
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: But I'm so excited for Luther Burden, like I can't

1274
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: wait to watch him be set free and just get

1275
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: to be used all over. Like, I think he is

1276
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: just a tool, like a like a piece that you

1277
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: want to generate as many touches for downfield ball in

1278
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: his hands after the catch, Like, I wouldn't be surprised

1279
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: if he ends up leading the Bears and receiving yards

1280
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: this year. That, Like, I know, that's a big bull

1281
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: take to throw out there right now, it's March. I'm

1282
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: not like standing on it, but I think that is

1283
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: in the range of his outcome.

1284
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm mins TRAVESTYTN going to New Orleans. I think that's

1285
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna be your favorite. That is my favorite. Yeah, that's

1286
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: my favorite so far. Because these Saints are you know,

1287
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're a playoff team, but they're

1288
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna be in enough contention. I think they're gonna be

1289
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: in games enough. Because what you want. You want those

1290
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: running backs obviously that get a heavy workload, but also

1291
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: those running backs that are on the field in the

1292
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: two minute drill that can catch the football. Because man,

1293
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like prime Austin Eckler at the end of

1294
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: hals or games, he could go from having like eight

1295
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: points to like seventeen points because he just got a

1296
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: couple of quick dump offs in the two minute drill.

1297
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: And I feel like traves Yatam can do that for

1298
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: an offense that again, maybe they win six games, seven games,

1299
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: but they're in, they're in enough games and they're close

1300
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Speaker 1: enough that he's getting those opportunities and racking up those

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Speaker 1: cheap points. I mean, I guess since we're living in

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Speaker 1: a world where one catch equals ten yards whatever, if

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Speaker 1: we're going to live in that world, then you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish society could be a little bit better, But

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Speaker 1: you participate in society. I am very smart, Like that's

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing right here with the with shravsyteam.

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Speaker 1: So uh there it is all right? Anything else to

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Speaker 1: add those before we right? I should have seen that coming.

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Speaker 1: Should that coming? Next week, I'm gonna have some we're

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Speaker 1: efforting some some special guests, some some things that are

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit out of the ordinary. Can talk

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Speaker 1: some a little bit more analytics, especially kind of off

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Speaker 1: the beaten path, about maybe some strategies that teams are

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Speaker 1: employing in their offenses and how you might be able

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Speaker 1: to employ that, uh in your fantasy life as well.

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Speaker 1: So the stick around for that next week coming up

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Speaker 1: on the show. In the meantime, that's we'll do it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,

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Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again on Tuesday. Wow.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell help, I'll tell help.

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Speaker 1: Yah,