WEBVTT - Live from Vegas with All-Pro Steven Jackson 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.559 From the King of Sports Books comes the key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.000 podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:29.400 Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome to Unleashed from bet MGM, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.920 the King of Sports Books. You know, weird stuff is 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.159 happening in college football and the NFL. Heck even in tennis. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.080 The Joker got upset. That was crazy. A lot to 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.000 get to in this episode. But Janice has your sugar hangover. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.320 Wear it off. From our nice dacree day in Vegas. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.919 It was just nice to feel twenty two again. We 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:56.840 drank diabetes level alcohol. It was, that's what it was called. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.920 We just said, give us two diabetes shooters. It was 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.279 fun though. No. I was glad we could finally hang out. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.760 We we took Vegas by storm and would say, yeah, 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.360 it was. It was nice to finally meet in person, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.520 which was interesting. You're you're a tall You're a tall 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.679 drink of water. I was just gonna say, that's one 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.040 of those times you say you don't look anything like 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.840 you do online. No, you do, you know, I just 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.000 feel like the heels you were in like two in jails. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.280 I felt that was like a little unnecessary because you're 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.920 ready tall enough. And if we when we do our 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.520 next live event, I just I'm gonna have to wear pumps. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.560 I'm gonna have to wear Sylve's just a lone heels 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.119 in order to still feel like a guy around you. Well, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.840 because it was so much fun and we said it 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.600 on your Instagram story, can we have one more time 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:52.000 of yelling our favorite thing to say here in Vegas? Yeah? Sure, okay, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:02:01.920 one to three king Yes, but that sounded good. They'll 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.560 stake that up nice. That's actually sounded like a pack 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.080 of hyenas who would be here like on a bachelortte party. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:11.360 So that wasn't bad. Yes, yes, and good animal analogy 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 because it's a matriarchy. And I'll tell you as we 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.560 got closer to Monday, as Rader fans started really pouring in, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.160 I mean it just got electric in Vegas. It is 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.080 so much fun to go there. I am glad to 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.400 be home. But overall, great weekend. You know who didn't 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.400 have as good of a weekend as us? The Giants, Yeah, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.880 and the Packers. But no, Luke NOACKI he is our 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:39.080 bad beat of the week. The week he placed an 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.520 alternate bet on the Browns at chief Sunday. I would 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.160 have taken this to my man put two grand on it. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.600 The line was five and a half, but he did 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.360 four and a half. He brought it down. I would 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.399 have thought that's so safe. I put money on five 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.760 and a half, so it would have hit if the 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.560 Chiefs had kicked an extra point. Instead they went for two. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.520 They were unsuccessful and they win by for his payout 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:08.160 would have been one. Instead, he lost two grand. Oh 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.480 that's so close yet so far, But you know, I 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.880 would be encouraged by that and be like, you know, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.240 because with with luck, it means he's got a big 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.360 one coming. Yeah. I would love to catch up with 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.160 our man Luke and see if he put any money 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.800 on the Raiders Ravens game. Maybe he was a little 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.760 bit more successful, but he already's asking for Andy Reid 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.160 to reimburse him. I don't know if that's going to happen, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.920 but bet MGM will because he's our bad beat of 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.840 the Week winner. So bet MGM gives him a hundred 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.960 dollars in credit to use on his next bet. So 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.760 it's a small consolation prize after he lost two grand. Yeah, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.760 but you know what he may turn that into something, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.480 So there you go. It could all be for a reason. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.000 Good luck to you, sir. I saw another bet MGM 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:56.080 customer put five hundred bucks on a ten game soccer 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:01.160 parlay and they won fifty thousand ten. I mean, how 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.600 do you know that much about soccer? I didn't even know. Yeah, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.760 what the what the was that American soccer or Venezuelan 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.760 It was solely Venezuelan intramural league. Yeah. Well, the only 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.799 time I've ever done a parlay on soccer was for 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.160 girls middle school, and I was told that's illegal. You 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.000 can't bet on girls middle Yeah. Did they kick you 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.840 out after? And you already can't go within a couple 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.920 of feet of a playground Anyways, I'm surprised you got 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.760 that close. I know, well I got that close and 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.000 then uh yeah, I was just squirted off. You know, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.840 you losing me up a lot, Jannis. In general, like 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.640 I I say things I never thought I would say 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.360 on the air. But you know who was loose with us? 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:49.640 Um Maddie. You know our producer, Maddie. He keeps it 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.800 pretty straight. He keeps, oh, you're talking about our man, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.520 our new best friend, Stephen Jackson. Yes, our new best 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.120 friend Steven Jackson. He's the interview that plays in just 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.120 a little bit. He met us at the Mandalaid Bay 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.960 Beach and we did our interview pool side more or less, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.000 and oh my gosh, was it fun. You two were wild. Yeah, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.640 we got some really fun scoops. He was very candid 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.800 with us. You know, he's retired from the NFL, so 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.039 he doesn't have to worry about you know, uh Goodell 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.400 breathing down his back. And he was very honest looking 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.000 back in retrospect, especially about his relationship with Marshall Falk, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.080 which was very interesting. I'm really glad you asked him 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.440 that question. That was really good. He also talked about 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.960 conference realignment in college football. He went to Oregon State 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.400 and he now serves on the board for the athletic department. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.920 So they're in the Pact twelve obviously, as we've talked 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.200 about on this show, trying to figure out the next 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.680 direction for the conferences that aren't getting as much love 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.200 right now as SEC. So that's a really interesting conversation 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.200 that's coming up. But for those of you who don't 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.760 know Steven Jackson, he's top twenty in NFL history rushing yards. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.560 He's the RAMS all time leading rusher and he's a 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.600 very proud Vegas native. We talked all about that. He 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.880 was incredible. You guys are gonna like this. Some of 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.240 y'all probably sell it on Twitter Live. Did you end 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.640 up seeing that you honest? I did see it, and 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.680 it was just as fun watching it as it was 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.960 doing it. I mean, he was absolutely so much fun. Yep. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.560 So that's coming up. And then at the end of 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.280 the show, as always, we have betting expert Peter Andrew 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.880 joining us to help navigate week two. Make sure you're 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.599 taking notes. Remember last week we started punishment Picks. Yannie 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.920 and I pick a winner on three games at Peter 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.240 Picks All NFL. Whoever comes out on top gets to 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.359 write the outro for the loser to read. I'm already 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.200 blushing at what your sick brain came up for me 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.920 this week because your Steelers one, because you just were 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.360 so confident, Ben Roethlisberger, I don't know, I feel fooled. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.080 That's what made the difference. Hey, listen, it's always age 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.559 over beauty, remember that he will. That's why I always 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:56.480 let you go first. Exactly well, speaking of age before beauty, honest, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.440 I'm gonna let you go first on this one. It's 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.160 a new segment we have that is our namesake of 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.800 the show Unleashed. Every week, you and I are just 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.400 going to unleashed on what we want to talk about 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.160 that happened that week, and we both have a topic 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.040 and I think it's really good for context. I want 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.400 to play back this tape. It's a reporter in Georgia. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.360 She's at the Georgia Clemson game doing a postgame report 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.880 in the concourse as fans are filing out. Let's go 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:36.280 ahead and play your tape and then let's both unleash. Hello, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:44.600 how long a times my witness? Please go? It's time 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.920 to unleashed. Yeah, I don't know how you watch that 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.320 clip and blame her. You know those are drunk fans. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.640 I think they should make alcohol legal at the stadium 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.840 and it should only be marijuana. That would change the 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:01.000 vibe quite a bit. Then we have Matt Wall who's 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.520 a big Twitter personality, who tweeted that there should be 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:08.800 no more female reporters uh in football, which really piste 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.160 me off because my co host is a female reporter 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.880 and I got your back. I mean, how horrible a 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.760 take is that we don't want less women watching football. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.560 We want more. That's the dream. And why why should 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.520 a woman not be allowed to report on football? What's 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.320 your reason? He has no good reason. It's the dream 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.480 for you and your girl to watch football together. It's 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.160 relationship goals. Well, look, I dug into this a little bit. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.040 And so the reporter's names Lindsay Goff. She's twenty eight, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.000 she's my age. She is a very accomplished reporter. She's 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.640 the sports director at her station, by the way, so 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.160 they sent her from Savannah, Georgia to go cover this 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.600 game in Charlotte. She has no cameraman, no audio tech, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.440 no light, no anything. It's a one man band. I've 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.240 done that before in local news. It is brutal. But 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.959 I didn't in in Bay, Wisconsin covering things like cheese festivals, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.640 so I didn't have to deal with like drunken people 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.840 bothering me. But when I was working for the Atlanta Hawks, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.800 I would do postgame reports with security, two camera guys, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.120 lighting guy. You know, a full staff around me more 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.320 or less. Who are my friends. We work together all 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.160 season and they truly are like boxing out drunk fifty 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.679 year old men trying to All they're trying to do 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.520 really is getting the shot, and it's so stupid. And 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.040 I don't understand this as someone who works in TV. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:35.720 Why they think that's appealing, funny, good whatever. That being said, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.360 the reasons she's doing that live hit in the concourse 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.640 is to capture the fan excitement in Vegas last weekend. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.960 I did a lot of reports on the sports book floor, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.880 a lot of people drinking, having fun, excited about the game. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:51.920 That's why we did it there, That's why we're not 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.640 in a studio. But that being said, I've always had 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:59.720 this feeling like whatever these men's job are. If their 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.040 t jers, if their businessmen, if they're accountants, bankers, I 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.280 don't know what they all do. But can you imagine 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.520 someone drunken lee getting in their face, touching them, being 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.959 so obnoxious while they're at a critical point of their 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.600 work day, like they're giving a big presentation and someone 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.679 just like, hey, they're getting all in their face. That 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:24.079 drives me crazy. And it's double edged sword. There's on 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.800 one hand, you can say you're taking it too far. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.040 What did you expect. It's the end of a game, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.720 end of a great game, you know, that's what it is. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.480 But in general, no one should put their hands on 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.840 each other, and no one should put their hands on 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.240 a woman. Um, they were touching her camera, they were 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.240 touching her. It was so inappropriate. But the Matt Walsh 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.920 aspect of it is asinine, and I truly don't believe 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.440 he feels that way. I think he's trying to get clicks. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.319 So I kind of roll my eyes at that one 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.280 pretty much. Yeah, And if it was a guy reported, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.760 the same thing would have happened. So I have no 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.160 idea that she was a woman had anything to do 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.360 with it, except that he wanted clicks because he's a troll. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.400 And uh yeah, and just one more thing with men 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.600 questioning women's place in sports, I would always feel this way, like, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.080 do you know how many games I've been on a 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.280 sideline at, how many practices, closed media practices I've been at. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.079 I've been at packer training camp since I was biting ankles. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.680 I've grown up in this sport and that's just me. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.240 Every person in this industry who's accomplished anything has a 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:26.320 story similar. Everyone has a background, a resume, and it 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.440 doesn't matter your gender. So if anyone's questioning women in sports. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.200 It's like, bro, I know you, you know, went to 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.400 Texas and you're a big Texas fan and you win 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.720 every home game when you were in college, and that's wonderful. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.400 Like you don't know sports the way people who cover 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.280 it do. That's all say on that. Yeah, And I'll 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.520 just say, listen, Matt, I think the NFL and college 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.680 knows a little bit better than you what guys want 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.320 to look at. And I mean not to not to 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.040 be too superficial, but I'll just be honest. I'd rather 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.760 look at you than named Garoffalo. That's a throwback to 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.719 another the episode, than Goose, than the Goose. So it's like, 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.400 there's nothing hotter than a woman who knows football. Those 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.240 are two of guys favorite things, So stop trying to 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.640 eliminate it. But Yann, it's also you're not helping my 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.000 case because my case is that it's not about looks. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.440 But also, here's the thing that makes it even harder 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.840 for a woman to be in sports is before I 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.880 go live on air, as I'm trying to get my 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.120 thoughts set, make sure all my numbers are checked, still 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:26.839 looking over my shoulder to see if a player is 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.920 going to run on the field still try to figure 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.160 out everything. I also have to make sure my lip 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.600 glasses touched up and I don't have flyaway hairs and 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.920 I empowdered up. It's because if I'm not if I 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.520 don't look good on TV, you better believe that's the 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.320 only thing my Twitter timeline is gonna say. So you 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.280 know here, I am boy. I really am going unleashed 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.959 on this first one. But it's exhausting. It's like the 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.839 thing where they say, uh, Ginger Rogers did everything Freda 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.720 Stair did, but backwards and in heels. It's true, but 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.079 also it works the other way too, when I say looks, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.040 it's not just women. I mean, let's be honest. Sam 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.760 Cassell is never gonna be a reporter. You know, he's 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.320 never gonna be on air talent calling basketball games. There's 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.240 a reason why Joe Bucks on there. He's got a 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.719 cute face. There's a reason why Kevin Harland, he's a 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.920 he's my favorite announce She's great announcer, but he's also 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:19.160 a cute kid. I mean, you know, to be on air, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.880 there's a certain thing you gotta have a face for. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.000 Some people have a face for for TV, and some 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.480 people got a voice for radio. Let's be honest. I mean, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.320 there's the reason why I'm hiding here. I'm handsome. If 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.040 I wasn't handsome, they wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, when 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.880 we were looking for co host, I said, I don't know, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.599 just give me a good face. That's it. That's what 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.240 you're at the fact that was the only requirement. And 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.280 you know, for a while I felt objectified, but then 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.760 I said, you know what, she's got good taste. She's 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.080 going for the closest thing to John stay where she 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.040 can find my closest. I mean far were you really 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.120 concerned when we set you a ben mg M bikini 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.200 to wear during taping? I was concerned. I was concerned 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.360 about that. Yeah, that was uh, that was yeah that 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.760 I had to contact my lawyn'side. Will not do that 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.360 because you mean, you will not do that without a 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.680 spray tan. I will not do that without a spray 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.400 tan exactly. That was the problem. The problem was I'm 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.640 too pale right now. Okay, Well, that felt really good 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.600 to unleash on that. Thank you very much for indulging me. Honest, Hey, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.640 let's get to our interview with Steven Jackson. He was incredible. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.480 He's your new best friend. RAMS all time leading rusher. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.040 It was last weekend in Vegas. We had too much fun. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:40.000 Let's roll it back. Okay, Well, this is such a treat. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.520 We are live in Las Vegas at the Mandalaid Bay Pool, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.160 joined by Steven Jackson. He's the eighteenth all time in 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.000 NFL rushing yards rams, all time leading rusher, three time 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.640 Pro Bowl selection, eight straight seasons with over a thousand 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.280 rushing yards, a part of the ten thousand yards rushing Club. YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.360 You're also funny, got a great personality. We've met you 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.760 for ten minutes and we're already in love. Stephen, thanks 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.480 for joining us. Thank you. How you guys doing. We're good. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.360 He's not getting to you, guys. He is getting to 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.240 be right now. I'm sweating so bad. I'm gonna sit 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.080 like this. You can't see the sweat stage. I don't 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.680 think that's all that's getting to Honest. He had a 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.320 large dacri before you made me. Yeah, I just had 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.160 a spring break cancoon dack. Yeah, but you used to 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.600 probably meeting drunk people because they come to Vegas. Yeah. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.520 But when you say spring breaking, its fall, it is 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.000 kind of off putting. But is it full? Yeah? Is 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.560 it technically? I think it's still summer technically, So we 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:38.920 both have to take a shot. Now. We came on prepared, Stephen. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.080 We were just asking you about that. When you live here, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.200 it must be annoying people coming in all the time, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.120 trying to hit you up, go on the strip. What's 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.480 it like living in Las Vegas? You know, my first 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.480 like one one, two years in the NFL, I wanted 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.360 to be the greatest house the veterans coming town. I 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.280 want to show him everything. Then, you know, and then 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.200 like year two, year three, you learned a kind of 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.120 started fibbing like no, I'm not in town. And then 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.000 about year four or five, you just file a lie. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.800 You're like, no, I could enough to get back if 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.440 they see you like I'm not here. You got to 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.560 make sure not to post on social media when you 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.240 lie like that, because they can look at your stories 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.880 and be like he's in town to down the fourth 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.440 Twitter was brand new, No like no video, No, yeah, 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.440 it's every good. I have to worry about that. You 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.160 are actually credited as being the guy who made the 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.680 NFL start paying attention to Las Vegas for football players. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.920 Because you don't think of football players. We think in 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.440 Las Vegas because of the heat, Like, how do you 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:40.800 play that game in this heat without like needing water 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.000 attached to your body? It's hot. The commitment it has 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.720 to be there, like for one, it has to be 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.160 there to June, July, August summer. Training has to happen 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:55.000 like five am or like after sunset. There's no like 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.280 one pm we're gonna work out, Like no, that doesn't 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.040 happen here, right, So I would say prioritizing your time. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.920 I was. I was a film study like nut like, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.159 so I would go watch film all day and a 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:11.399 c right yeah, but then afternoon, I mean like sunset wise, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.240 after go work out. I'm on the field. I'm just there. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.360 I'm working out. And the thing about it is, um, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.040 the game of football is challenging. A lot of people 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.360 don't know quite the how to measure the talent you're 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.840 going up against. But if you see a guy's passionate heart, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:28.800 I mean you got to take a shot on that 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.000 right at least right, And I think that's what happened 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.879 for me. People saw how committed I was to the game, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.439 and then it just took off from there. Yeah, do 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.720 you think if you go, if a person lives in 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.680 Vegas and then they go to Hell, do you think 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.800 they're just going that bad? No? So Funny Funny said, So, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.760 I just I was smoking a cigar with my wife 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.399 the other night. I was on about No she just 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.679 kind of like takes in the smoke and hates it. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:18:01.040 But yeah, I don't want my hair to smell politics 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:08.920 not casting already, but seriously, I was just smoking to 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.960 the Garden of the Night on the balcony and like, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.480 literally I'm watching the torch go up. How like, damn, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.000 I don't want to go to hill. So it doesn't 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:22.879 make it any better, you know, I'll be like, no, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.760 what this says? So bad? What is this one oh six? 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.800 That's like that's like August and Vegas. What is the 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:35.560 best month here? May even late September, right late September now, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.720 right now it's still hanging on. Good lord. Okay, so 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.919 that is true. Janna said that you did put the 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.960 Vegas area on the map for scouters at the college level. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.160 Two You went to Oregon State and we were just talking. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.240 It was the Pact ten then now it's obviously the 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.439 Pact twelve. There's so much talk about realignment and what 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.320 the other conferences are going to do with the departure 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.720 of Texas and know you from the Big twelve and 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.960 teams like like the Organs, the u c l A, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.760 and USCS and no offense, but like the big ticket 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.639 names in the PAC twelve are trying to schedule games 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.240 that can keep their ratings high from television perspective. Jannest, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:12.760 we were talking about that a couple of weeks ago. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.879 I know you're on the board with Oregon State. What 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.160 do you guys talk about that would be the best, 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.040 most advantageous thing for the PAC twelve to stay as 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.840 relevant as they can. I think it's important. I just 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.159 used my example for instance, the early two thousand's, My 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:32.000 primetime games are either like late night Coast is already sleep, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.760 or they're like Thursday, you know, trying to get like 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.000 a pop game on Thursday night, and that just wasn't 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.280 turning over the eyeballs wasn't there. So I think it's 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.080 really smart that the PAC twelve was going in the 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.840 direction of trying to have an alliance with the Big 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.640 ten in the A c C. The conversation that we're 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.679 having is is making sure that even the smaller schools 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.240 in those conferences still get the notoriety. Right, So U S, C, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.760 U C l A, Ohio State, those schools, clems in 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.639 those schools will get their attention. These are ly but 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.920 the smaller schools Oregon State, Washington State, those kind of schools. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.840 It's supporting that you still get markuee matchups so you 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.680 can recruit other kids like myself. Sure you might get look, 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:11.960 you might get peeked over and not get recruited for 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.480 whatever reason, but you can still go on those conferences 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:15.840 and know, you guys, you have a big game on 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.359 the on the schedule, and if you win your division, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.000 you still have a big game at the end of 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.399 the year. Why is it important for you to still 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.680 serve on the board. Why do college athletics still stay 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.879 in your daily life? Now? You know, I think what 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.080 college athletics. I think it's it's honestly, the athletes still 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.760 care about the sport. For sure. I'm not going to 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.520 say a professional jone, but it's a difference. So collegiately, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.919 I want to see those young those young people be 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:41.919 able to do what they love and even if it 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.119 runs out after four years, they maximize that. I think 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.000 a lot of times as you get older, you progress 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.240 through life, we as adults, we look back and like, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:50.760 I wish I did this, I wish I did that 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.080 to me being a board memory, just making sure that 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.719 those young people get to maximize whatever it supposure they 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.159 have then and I have to look back like, damn, 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.359 I wish that's really special. Because we talked to so 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.639 many athletes on this show and of every sport, and 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.879 I always usually asked that is, even though you had 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.720 all this professional success, I bet you didn't love playing 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.479 on a team as much as you did in college. 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.360 Is that true for you? That is true? Yeah? Yeah, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.199 end of the week, it's like something about it like 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.560 you calling your friends like what we're doing tonight, and 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.200 a college town like Corvallis, Oregon, you can't duplicate that 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.119 and allows you to grow up and mature where you 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.560