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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy, you want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State is that woo woo? And Dan

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is Ty hilden Brand. Joining me is always over

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Speaker 2: there in beautiful Chicago, the one and only Dan Rubinstein. Sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm a lot more sore than I

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Speaker 1: was yesterday, just because we've done the Washed show and

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Speaker 1: I have explained how much bodies start to break down.

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, other than the fact that I had a

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Speaker 1: giant ice pack like Kevin ape Here strapped, I don't

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Speaker 1: know Kevin Apier had or Wilson Alvarez. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why I associate it with like nineteen ninety three pictures.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Wilson Alvarez through enough or through

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Speaker 2: hard enough. Excuse me, whoa I'd call Jimmy Key?

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Speaker 1: Did he throw hard?

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Speaker 2: Now he had that big looping curveball. Wasn't a flame thrower,

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Speaker 2: Chuck Finley, Uh litter ifire call? So you have to

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Speaker 2: throw hard to have this we'll go Chuck Finley.

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Speaker 1: Sure, well, okay, Nolan Ryan, just that giant bulging ice

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Speaker 1: wrap around shoulder and arm because I played tennis this

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Speaker 1: morning and all of my muscles are not built for

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Speaker 1: that anymore. I'm alright, Ty, all things considered with what

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Speaker 1: is happening in the universe, I'm all right, and I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Given the number of road teams playing in

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Speaker 1: high leverage situations potentially that they just can't lose. They're

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Speaker 1: tiptoeing on that tightrope. Suitcase Saturday, Suitcase Saturday is not bad.

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Speaker 1: I had stopped.

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Speaker 2: I had stopped the spread Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing double ontonge with uh?

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a double call double meaning there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I like Suitcase Saturday because I had the

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Speaker 2: same takeaway and looking at the slate of games before

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Speaker 2: us on this week eleven? Can you believe it? In

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Speaker 1: Review before we get into everything preview wise, the following

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Speaker 1: teams are on the road. This is why we're referencing this.

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Speaker 1: We should actually talk about college football more than Kevin

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Speaker 1: ap Or. I guess number nine, Miami number ten, Indiana

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin number twenty three, Northwestern number eleven, Oregon All suitcase Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Ty? Where should we start packing our suitcases? Too? Well?

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Speaker 2: Why don't we? First?

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Speaker 1: We should talk news?

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Speaker 2: I guess we should first pack our suitcases to the

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Speaker 2: tune of some breaking news. Still not going to do

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Speaker 2: getting there. Don't worry, may I, may I please? Breaking news?

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Speaker 2: It was a little cartoony, but it'll suffice Dan, Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you. We've got all sorts of news related to

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Speaker 1: Right, and your team's not playing in a certain window yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and your team's not playing like, maybe you just

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Speaker 2: It, though I think you could make the case that

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Speaker 2: If I am forced to just pick one window in particular,

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Speaker 1: Oh in three Penn State Georgia Miszoo. Georgia just with

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Speaker 2: Half of early. Speaking of which, I got a lot

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's brutal.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking rake. Would we have a leaf blower?

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Speaker 2: It, I've got the leaf blow, I've got the rake,

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Speaker 2: What I did last year was I took the lawnmower

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Speaker 1: Okay. Is that recommended? Do a lot of people do that?

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Speaker 1: Okay. I look forward to the feedback or possible blowback

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Speaker 1: that you are polluting something various. I don't know. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to start with Miami Virginia Tech?

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Speaker 2: I do. I'm glad you brought this game up. It's

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Speaker 2: at high noon, It's number nine, Miami on the road

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Speaker 2: we don't draw because Miami's a top ten team. Tech

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Speaker 2: is four and three, lost to Liberty, as you said,

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Speaker 2: hundred years old. Yeah, I can honestly say that this game,

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Speaker 2: our friend does the spplus for ESPN dot com, does

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Speaker 2: a marvelous job. You know that. I like his second

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Speaker 2: order wins statistic He says that Virginia Tech is one

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Speaker 2: win better than the record, Miami is one win worse.

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Speaker 2: For all the pomp and circumstance dan around the Eric King,

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Speaker 2: they're really inefficient offensively only mostly efficient, but booied a

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Speaker 2: little bit by Khalil Herbert and Hendon Hooker in that

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Speaker 2: not blowing the doors off any of those teams. They're

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Speaker 2: away from this one. Like, if Vegas is trying to

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Speaker 2: give me free advice, who am I? Far be it

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Speaker 2: from me to turn that down. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say Tech wins thirty one twenty seven

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Speaker 1: The last time we saw Miami play football, they gave

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Speaker 1: And Virginia, of course loses to Liberty. We think a

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Speaker 1: take a look at who Miami has beaten and how

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Speaker 1: they beat them. It was, what a five point win

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Tech at home. I'm gonna take Tech

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Speaker 1: forty one thirty seven and they cover. Yes, we agree.

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Speaker 2: Staying in that noon block number ten, Indiana minus seven

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Speaker 2: for what it's worth, Dan, Yeah, it might not be

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Speaker 2: is projected to lose all five of its remaining games

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Speaker 1: I love every year and I try to search them

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Speaker 1: Michigan State loses to Rutgers and then beats Michigan kind

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Speaker 1: Indiana here. I don't really care if it's a letdown

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Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question if there was any

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Speaker 2: Now going on the road to East Lansing, the thing

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Speaker 1: They just might be like, this is not a first

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Speaker 2: There's that. It also wasn't a dramatic win like it

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Speaker 2: would totally buy it. Thirty six thirty five dramatic overtime thriller,

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Speaker 2: the leap by Michael Pennix to hit the pylon or

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Speaker 2: maybe sort of hit the pylon. I get it. This

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Speaker 2: they got it out of their system in the second half. Now,

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the better question. You're talking about the national

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think my main hesitation here is again that trustee

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Speaker 2: second order win stat that I like to use. Indiana

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Speaker 2: The hallmark of a team playing worse than its record,

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Speaker 2: and that doesn't invalidate any of the wins. It's just

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Speaker 2: solid roll. True, potentially a candidate at some point along

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Speaker 2: the way for one of your lro games when the

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Speaker 2: luck just runs out.

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Speaker 1: Except not lucky against Well Rutgers was actually kind of

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Speaker 2: I would like to see more out of Stevie Scott.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see more out of the front seven

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Speaker 2: think they could get there. It's a weird year. I

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him here. I think they are going

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Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, weirdly enough, Indiana has a little bit of

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Michigan State is that team to take

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Speaker 1: too many big plays, But it makes for entertaining football,

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Speaker 1: and Indiana football has been entertaining this year, so something

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to moving forward. Another road matchup next

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Speaker 1: week against Ohio State, for sure, but watch Indiana football.

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Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, it's entertaining.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Georgia minus eleven and a

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Speaker 2: half at missoo Son Guzman Ti.

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Speaker 1: There's enough one on Guzman. That's a good one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: In theory, Georgia should destroy the last four teams on

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Speaker 1: Right why why? Why? Why?

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Speaker 2: Because it's Missou, Mississippi State, South Carolina and Vandy. Ten

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Speaker 2: and two, ten and two should be a foegone conclusion.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're not playing twelve games. But continue, What do

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Speaker 2: Ten and two, eight and two? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Two losses?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Maybe something goes sideways, maybe maybe you know, Florida gifts

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Speaker 2: good deal in a COVID infuse season. I do have

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Speaker 2: a Kaka Mami theory though, that I want to bounce

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Speaker 2: off you.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: I love Kakamemy, I happen to think that we are

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Speaker 2: at an elevated risk of mail ins this year. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we for sure are not Ballot's not not ballot. It's

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Speaker 2: not going there with it. But right, big games out

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Speaker 2: a stupid road game a week after losing to your

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Speaker 2: biggest rival. Am I hearing a literal home dog right now?

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Speaker 2: You are hearing a home dog barking in the background.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna pick Miszoo here? Ah, same, There is

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Speaker 2: virtually no reason to go Missouri here. The offense is

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Speaker 2: it's it's like burning coal. Okay, it is very inefficient.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't even break ten points against Georgia in this defense.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna test out my theory, Dan, and We're

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Speaker 2: not going to be held accountable for these picks anyway.

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Speaker 2: So give me Miszoo plus eleven and a half. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what George has got to play for. I

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Speaker 2: Drinkwitz is going to have his boys fired up. So

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Speaker 2: Georgia wins, but Miszoo covers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you here, Missoo is my home dog

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Speaker 1: of the week, and I already regret it, but they are,

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Speaker 1: so you can play the sound.

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Speaker 2: The Yokos Home Dog of the week a literal and

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Speaker 2: figurative home Dog of the week. Den George's most impressive

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Speaker 2: win is what tennessee is that they're Kentucky winning fourteen

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Speaker 2: to three and looking pretty ugly on offense. What is

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00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: the actual reason right now they're beat up on defense?

436
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett is at best a limited quarterback. He hard

437
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: himself last week against Florida. Dwan Mathis obviously has limitations,

438
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: and maybe it's just because he's quite young and a

439
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: very good story should also always be mentioned. But if

440
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 2: Georgia doesn't have above average quarterback play and are injured

441
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: on defense and couldn't really separate themselves, now, Kentucky is

442
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: a much better defense, I believe than Maszoo. But Miszoo

443
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: did beat Kentucky, so.

444
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: We are we're just going on this perceived I mean

445
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: they are. George is extremely talented, but this perceived talent

446
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: translating to production. In twenty twenty, you brought up an

447
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: interesting point, the sort of the mail ins or whatever. Yeah,

448
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Bud Elliott of twenty four to seven, twenty four to seven.

449
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: Our old pal has mentioned a theory of his where like,

450
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: if a team is no longer in it for whatever,

451
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: they believe that their ceiling was, and they're operating with

452
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: such you know, strict restrictions for COVID reasons, are things

453
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: getting a little bit more lax when that carrot is

454
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: not in front of them, that competitive carrot is not

455
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: in front of them, like it may have been a

456
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: few weeks earlier.

457
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Speaker 2: Sort of the same thing. I didn't see that Bud

458
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 2: said that, but it's yeah, it's not too different.

459
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not saying more guys are catching COVID and

460
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: testing positive. I'm just saying, you know, maybe there is

461
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: a stray positive, but it's going to affect contact tracing

462
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: and quarantining and personnel available. I don't I don't at

463
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: all believe. Let's be clear, I don't at all believe

464
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: in analyzing games based on who is and who is

465
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Speaker 1: not playing because of COVID, unless it's somebody crazy important

466
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence or something like that, just because there's

467
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: so many variables and you don't know what to expect

468
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: from backups. But in terms of motivation to adhere to

469
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: strict restrictions that I think becomes interesting with Georgia now

470
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: all but out of the SEC East and probably not

471
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Speaker 1: all that confident in the quarterback position leading them. I mean,

472
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: it's miss Zoomissippy State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, so it's all relative,

473
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: but just in terms of covering spreads, just in terms

474
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: of maximizing ability, Georgia seems like they are one of

475
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: those teams who are like, well, they're going to get

476
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: up for these four teams now all of a sudden,

477
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: when nothing seems to be on the line unless Florida

478
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: tanks somehow. It's interesting to think about motivations in this

479
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: very different world we're living in.

480
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Speaker 2: We usually apply it during bowl season, for sure, and

481
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Speaker 2: I just I think maybe we can apply it a

482
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: little earlier here. George is a good team. The defense

483
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: I don't think is necessarily taking weeks off. But eleven

484
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: and a half on the road's a big number, especially

485
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Speaker 2: a week after losing to Arrival.

486
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Speaker 1: A double digit favorite on the road against a team

487
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: that at least flirts with competence tells me A that

488
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: team that favorite is excellent. B. The home team is

489
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: missing somebody very clearly, or somebody is very clearly important,

490
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: or that home team really isn't flirting with competence and

491
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: they're just terrible. Otherwise I feel comfortable taking the points.

492
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Speaker 2: Speaking of mail ins Dan, I have no idea what

493
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: to make of Penn State Nebraska. Penn State is a

494
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: three and a half point road favorite. I think there's

495
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Speaker 2: a chance Penn State's just done. I think there's a

496
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: chance they're packing it in. Last week's game against Maryland

497
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: was a joke. There was no reason for that. They

498
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: can't run with anybody outside of Sean Clifford. The defense

499
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: has been a huge disappointment. Obviously, they're zero and three.

500
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. The kicker is that Nebraska stinks too.

501
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't know, well, what do we

502
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: know in the Big Ten? What do we know?

503
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Northwestern might be really good. Other than that, I think

504
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: it's okay if you want to opt out of Penn

505
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: State football for the rest of the year.

506
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Speaker 2: I hate this game. I love it and I hate

507
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: it because, like I said, Nebraska's not From what we've

508
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: seen of Nebraska, they haven't been great either. They haven't

509
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: thrown a touchdown pass. The passing game has been non existent.

510
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: They're only running it with Adrian Martinez and Luke McCaffrey. Defense,

511
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: maybe a little better. I think Penn State's got more

512
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: ways to win, but I'm not willing to lay points here.

513
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: If you're looking to get creative with your plays this week,

514
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: Nebraska as a home dog is interesting to me. I

515
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: would probably go plus three and a half.

516
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: This is who Penn State finishes with. It's at Nebraska, Iowa,

517
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: at Michigan, and then it seems a drop off, though

518
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: I guess you could include Michigan has the drop off

519
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: depending on your vantage point Rutgers of Michigan State. Penn

520
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: State has to win at some point, right, They're not

521
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: going over. They're not going over and going oh to eight.

522
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: So I Nebraska has had their season interrupted losing the

523
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Wisconsin game in week two, so rhythmically they're off, speaking

524
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: as an expert of rhythmically off, they're off. So there's

525
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: a reason to believe that Nebraska is just almost in

526
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: the same boat as Penn State. I think I like

527
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Penn State here. I think there is more to potentially

528
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: like about Penn State. I don't love Shan Clifford. We've

529
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: been over this, you know. I receivers were open against Maryland.

530
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: This is it was something similar to what Georgia had

531
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: going against Florida. Receivers were open, Shan Clifford was missing them.

532
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: I think Penn State is able to get it done

533
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: against Nebraska on the road. I think getting out of

534
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: State College treating it like a new season. I just

535
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: I have too many questions still about this Nebraska offense.

536
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: So it's a war of attrition. I guess in a

537
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: certain way, give me, give me the nets.

538
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I guess I haven't written down on my note sheet

539
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: that penns State has more ways to win. So I'm

540
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: going to lay the points, but I'm changing my mind.

541
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm frustrated here.

542
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Quote me November tenth. Penn State can't go over, can they?

543
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: When they do? When they do?

544
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Let me rattle off some other quick games in that

545
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: early block. We've got Illinois against Rutgers. We've got Wake

546
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: against North Carolina, Hecu a three point dog on the

547
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: road against West Virginia, Vandy against Kentucky Coastal Carolina on

548
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: the road against Troy Middle Tennessee on the road against

549
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: number sixteen Marshall and Western Carolina against number twenty two Liberty.

550
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Any of those games interesting too.

551
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: I like Rutgers here. Illinois is a deep, deep mess.

552
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: I like Wake to cover this game, and if I

553
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: saw our friend Chip Patterson took the over in this one,

554
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: just because it seems wild. Wake is actually led by

555
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: their defense, and of course North Carolina their offense. I

556
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: like Wake to rip off a couple of big runs

557
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: and keep it close. North Carolina is this is a

558
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: what's it called a letdown or an open face let down?

559
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Look ahead? I guess after beating a rival and having

560
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: a buy and then Notre Dame Miami, so I think, wait,

561
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: keeps it close. I think they're aggressively competent, so I'm

562
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna roll with them. I like West Virginia at home.

563
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: Good defense at home against a TCU team that can't

564
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: throw the ball and still gives up too many big plays.

565
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Even with West Virginia's loss and sort of ugly loss,

566
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: not really looking all that good on offense against Texas,

567
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Kentucky Vandy. I just it's a very difficult duo of

568
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: teams to talk about. I like Troy here. I think

569
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: it's too many points. I think it's a look ahead

570
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: spot for the Shans. Tie app State next week. That

571
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: does that make sense to you? I think I think

572
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: Coastal will win.

573
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: I think Coastal has overperformed the Vegas number all year,

574
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: so I would I would be inclined to go Coastal.

575
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: They have I think they they've hit the they've won

576
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: their spread. The winning percentage against the spread for Coastal

577
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: I think is one hundred percent.

578
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

579
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. They won one hundred percent of the

580
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: games against Las Vegas. No real thoughts about Middle Tennessee Marshall.

581
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: I think Marshall is really good. They just have had

582
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: their season interrupted. Liberty in a letdown spot. I don't

583
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: think Western Carolina is good enough to take advantage. Those

584
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: are my early thoughts.

585
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Let's move to the afternoon. In late afternoon, let's start

586
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: with Alabama number one, Alabama minus twenty eight on the

587
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: road at LSU. So first things first, they may not

588
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: play this game, yeah, Alice, you as a yeah, tricky situation.

589
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: LSU has a small outbreak. They had four positives at

590
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: least the last I checked. They've got more players in

591
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: quarantine down to one scholarship quarterback TJ. Finley. They have

592
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: no tight ends or long snappers, so clearly not an

593
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: ideal situation for the Tigers if they do play this one.

594
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: I think we have to go Bama minus anything. Yeah,

595
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: I know it's a rivalry. I know that there is

596
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: a storied past of this game in the not so

597
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: distant past. I thought LSU stabilized its defense. They didn't

598
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: stabilize or.

599
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Are you talking South Carolina.

600
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: I thought that LSU stabilized things. It could have just

601
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: been that South Carolina is the nightmare that I mentioned

602
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: in a preseason.

603
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina is the one who gets knocked upon.

604
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot find a reason to go against Bama

605
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: at this point. I will I will lay the points.

606
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, but I'll go minus twenty eight.

607
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

608
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the points. If you would like a reason, Tye,

609
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: look ahead spot to Kentucky. Sorry I had to a Yeah.

610
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: I hope everything is all right in Baton Rouge. Obviously

611
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: very tricky in a lot of places within the SEC.

612
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: This week, Alabama minus the points.

613
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: We've also got at three point thirty number five A

614
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: and M on the road against Tennessee and AM in

615
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: another school with COVID issues. We mentioned it at the

616
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: top they paused the workouts yesterday due to positive test results.

617
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: You kind of, I guess contrast that compared to that

618
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: with what's going on at Tennessee. Tennessee could be another

619
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: one of those mail in schools Dan where I'm sure

620
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: really wondering what's left for them to really go out

621
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: there and grind for It has kind of been a

622
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: messy season. Schedule hasn't been great. It never is in

623
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: the SEC. But I just wonder where is where is

624
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: the fight coming from at this point. I also didn't

625
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: see a line on this game because obviously there are

626
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: some COVID issues that contend with And.

627
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I saw thirteen and a half early on, so that's it.

628
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: And thirteen and a half well, lots of road game stuff.

629
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Oh God, give me A and M. I would love

630
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: to take A and M.

631
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, this is my Tennessee. Is

632
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: my Tracy Chapman team of the week. I just need

633
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: a good reason. Are they always the Tracy Chapman team? Unclear? Yeah?

634
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: I like A and M. Here if this game happens,

635
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: and I like them. Buy a considerable number for what

636
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: you laid out.

637
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Three point thirty number two note tre Dame minus two

638
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: touchdowns on the road against Boston College. Oh god, I'm nervous.

639
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: It scares me. I am very very nervous. Dan.

640
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I like BC here just because they feel wrenschy this year.

641
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: I'd a had that magic tip. They do feel wrenchy,

642
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: should also mention it. I don't know if BC has

643
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: a crowd, so this it does change the calculus a bit.

644
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: This is the red Bandana game. If you don't understand

645
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: that reference, look up Boston College, red Bandana and I

646
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: guess nine to eleven. It's well's Crowther and be prepared

647
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: to sob Yeah. One of the most like touching inspirational

648
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: stories you will come across. Former athlete at Boston College. Anyway,

649
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: just go watch it if you haven't. Is it Rinaldi?

650
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Did he do that?

651
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: I think so.

652
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I think I believe Tom Rinaldi. So if you want

653
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: background on the Red Bandana game, an annual fundraiser for

654
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: Boston College, Uh yeah, I like BC here. They just

655
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: they feel wrenchy. I think Notre Dame wins this by

656
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: probably single digits. And BC's actually a decent enough matchup,

657
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: especially against the past. Maybe force Ian Book into a

658
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: couple of mistakes. Take some shots against Notre Dame as

659
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: the Irish have a I think an understandable letdown about

660
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: them after a huge double overtime win against what Clemson?

661
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Is that who they played last night? Was?

662
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: It was the Clemson Tigers. Yeah, so the Clemson Tigers.

663
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: The breakthrough of Notre Dame winning a regular season a

664
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: game against Clemson's backup quarterback. So I am going to

665
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go b c here and then Notre Dame finishes.

666
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: They've got a bye week after, so it could be

667
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: that that open face let down, look ahead and at

668
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: North Carolina before probably cruising with seriacusan wake. One does

669
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: not simply walk into the jerk store, the check store

670
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: like a week after the biggest win in a decade.

671
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: And this is a plucky Boston college team, Dan, They

672
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: almost beat Clemson a week before Notre Dame, renshee, So

673
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be up for this one.

674
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: And I am telling you, Dan, I'm telling you for ballers,

675
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: please do not bet Notre Dame in this game. Do

676
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: not do that to yourself because BC will be competitive.

677
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Take it to the bank. They will be competitive.

678
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

679
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame wins. But I think it's like

680
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty. If if Boston College had some

681
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: kind of complimentary ground attack, they could probably win the game.

682
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: But as it stands, it's all filled your Kovic, and

683
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: he's having a great year. Don't get me wrong. I

684
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: don't think it's enough in the end to push them

685
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: over the finish line. But twenty seven me thirteen and

686
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: a half fourteen seems like too much. It's not a

687
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: not a great situation for Notre Dame.

688
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Interesting defense and especially good against explosive pass plays, and

689
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's offense typically also very good against explosive pass

690
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: plays in that they prevent it from themselves. But they

691
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: took a nice step forward last week against Clemson. A

692
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: little disappointed tie when you said, I am telling you

693
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: twice that you didn't go into the dreamgirl song. Ah,

694
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson, No no, no, no, no, no no no.

695
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

696
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Don't do it, Okay, I was. I really would have

697
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: liked it. Sorry.

698
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: Some other afternoon games here that I'll rattle off quickly.

699
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: Number three Ohio State minus twenty five and a half

700
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: on the road at Maryland. We've got number twenty usc

701
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: minus fourteen on the road against Arizona. We've got Louisville

702
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: on the road, a three point dog against the Who's

703
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: of Virginia. We've got Colorado a six and a half

704
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: point dog on the road at Stanford. We've got Texas

705
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: Tech a point and a half home favorite over the

706
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Baylor Bears, and uh, Louisiana the Raging cagents haven't talked

707
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: about them in a while, A fifteen point home favorite

708
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: a two pm kickoff against the Jaguars. I believe of

709
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: South Alabama.

710
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: South Alabama is indeed the Jags.

711
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, any thoughts on any of those games.

712
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: South Alabama not so good at football this year, so

713
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you know we'll raging Cagen's there. I like Baylor against

714
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Really won enough matchup. Baylor has now a

715
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: couple of times put together interesting stretches of offense, and

716
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: they have a good defense. Now, I am not saying

717
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Baylor is a good team. Baylor is deeply flawed with

718
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: a new staff and Charlie Brewer's limitations and the injuries

719
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: and losses from last year. Whatever, But Baylor show up.

720
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean what they pick off brock Purty three times

721
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: in the first half last week they lose to Iowa

722
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: State by three are excuse me, by a touchdown in

723
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: ames That's something they lost by six to West Virginia

724
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: earlier on in the season. Now they've had their own

725
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: interruptions and rhythm altered. But Texas Tech is not all

726
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: that good. So I like Baylor on the road there.

727
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: I love Stanford. I love Stanford. I think this normally

728
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: would be like a nine and a half ten point spread.

729
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: Stanford a lot healthier on offense than they were last year.

730
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: And yes, I know backup quarterback are quarterbacks. With Davis

731
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Mills out last week, I don't know his status. But

732
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: Colorado I think is another one of those teams that

733
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: might be a bit overinflated playing against a very mistake

734
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: prone UCLA team. Colorado interesting long term. Maybe I don't

735
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: know if those guys on offenser are pretty decent, but

736
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: Stanford is not going to They're not that team that

737
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: makes those mistakes. They didn't turn the ball over against Oregon.

738
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I think they're ten points better. They're developing dudes on offense,

739
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: they're healthier on offense. I like Louisville against Virginia. I

740
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: think it's a really nice matchup. The Louisville offense against

741
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: the Virginia defense that has given up too much in

742
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: the way of big plays. Arizona playing Game one against

743
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: USC who yes, needed everything, needed the kitchen sink to

744
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: come back against ASU. But I like a team in

745
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: week two going against team in week one diagnosing fixing,

746
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: getting to know personnel better after week one. I like

747
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: Maryland maybe a backdoor cover situation because of this offense

748
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. Yeah, absolutely, Well, I don't know about that.

749
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: This this feels like it's fifty two to twenty four

750
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: written all over it.

751
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what twenty eight and that's that's covering by

752
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: two and a half points.

753
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: We're not talking about fifty eight, fifty two twenty four. Finally, okay,

754
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: well that's barely covering against Maryland. I think Maryland can

755
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: barely cover themselves.

756
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what that. That's sounded very strange the

757
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: way I praise that. So I'm going turps here. I'm

758
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: going terps with an explosive offense against not so good

759
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: teams like Penn State being able to move the ball

760
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: some sort of like we saw Nebraska do early on.

761
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: They're moving the ball some, they can run the ball

762
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: to Lea Tongovailoa has a heartbeat. He has I mean,

763
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: ra Kim Jarrett could have played anywhere in the country

764
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: he wanted to. And obviously he's playing for Maryland like

765
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: it was it. Dante Dimas took a nice step forward,

766
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: a bigger receiver from Maryland. Maryland's not keeping this game close.

767
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: They're keeping it close enough, especially late.

768
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: And Okay, let's move on. Let's go to the nightcap here.

769
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: Wisconsin minus three and a half on the road at Michigan.

770
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: This is a.

771
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Game that, no doubt looked a lot bigger. Mark Langston,

772
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: that's my new bt ty. Just every so often, every

773
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: nineteen minutes, I'm giving you an early nineties above average pitcher.

774
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: Wisconsin is number thirteen. They are three and a half

775
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: point road favorite. They have not played in three weeks. Dan.

776
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: They had that huge game against Illinois, that coming out

777
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: party for Graham Mertz, five touchdowns, missed one pass, then

778
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: they got shut down for a while. We still don't

779
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: know Mertz's status for this game.

780
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Paul crests status.

781
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, It sounds like Mertz will be ready soon,

782
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's going to be soon.

783
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: Enough for this Michigan game. So it begs the question here,

784
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: given what we maybe sort of quasi know about Michigan

785
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: and what we don't know about Wisconsin, how on God's

786
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: green Earth can either of us or any of us

787
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: for that matter, have confidence in the way this game

788
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: shakes out? Dan, do you have a lean here?

789
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: No? My lean is I hope it happens, and I

790
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: hope there is more high quality football than not, because

791
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: even if the timing works out for Graham Mertz and

792
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: he's able to play, he hasn't been practicing in any

793
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: sort of meaningful way these past few weeks. And you know,

794
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what his symptoms have been like. But

795
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: when you're held out and you're not getting those reps

796
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: and you're not getting into that rhythm, you're not gonna

797
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: be as good. I don't I mean, Michigan isn't that good.

798
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: But I know I don't have a lean. There are

799
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: far too many mysterious variables here. So under normal circumstances,

800
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: if everything happens to be fine and dandy for Wisconsin

801
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: and Michigan is some sort of aggregate of what they've

802
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: shown so far, so occasionally interesting on offense, and woefully

803
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: disappointing on defense. Yeah, I like Wisconsin here, but not

804
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: with any degree of you know, I have no concept

805
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: for what who's actually going to be on the field

806
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: if this game happens.

807
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: That's my issue. I don't think that much of Michigan,

808
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I think I like Wisconsin

809
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: minus the points, even if they're without some of their

810
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: key contributors. I wonder if there is a mail in

811
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: effect for Michigan as well. I know there are a

812
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: lot of new faces, and I presume there are a

813
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: number of players out there who are still going at

814
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: it pretty hard to try and prove their spot on

815
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: the real totem pole. But anytime you get off to

816
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: such a I don't know, Rocky start here, even in

817
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: a normal season.

818
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Now down Aiden Hutchinson.

819
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in a normal season, it begs the question

820
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: is their head? Is there heart going to be in it?

821
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: Especially given circumstances, cases rising, just NonStop questions about or

822
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: are we not going to play?

823
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And a huge spotlight team right so now, Yeah, Michigan

824
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: is getting all sorts of attention for is Jim Harbough

825
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: looking at NFL jobs? Is Jim Harbaugh really the answer

826
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: is what Luke Fickle consider wearing Mason blue? Why can't

827
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh figure it out? In ann Arbor? What's wrong

828
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: with this year's team? Is? Is Don Brown on his

829
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: way out? Jim Harbaugh said no, No, I have full

830
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: faith in Don Brown. Like there is more attention on

831
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Michigan football, rightfully or not, than most programs across the country.

832
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: And so now you're just sick of the attention. If

833
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: you're not winning, the attention's awful.

834
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Give me Wisconsin here, Dan minus three and a half.

835
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that we know Illinois excellent, that win means

836
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: so much more.

837
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: Also, at seven point thirty, number twenty three, your Northwestern Wildcats,

838
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: that's true. Three point favorite on the road at Purdue

839
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: Perdue has been a pleasant surprise to me this year.

840
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, is this the headline Big Ten West matchup

841
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: of the year? I always took a nice step forwards.

842
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Let's concede that last week.

843
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: But it's not not the headline match correct, Correct? Northwestern

844
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: and Purdue have both been pretty good stories here in

845
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: the early going. Now, I know you're always talking you

846
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: want to do just a podcast dedicated to Wildcat football.

847
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: You're always begging me for more time.

848
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me.

849
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: Talk about the Cats, and let's talk about Pat Fitzgerald

850
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: and really his life story where he's come from.

851
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I want to add Roger Sherman as a permanent third

852
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: co host. Yeah that's me.

853
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: I want to give you that opportunity now to just

854
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: wax poetic about your beloved Cats now your hometown team.

855
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: I kind of like Purdue here plus the points at home.

856
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: What's Rondel Moore's status? Have you seen anything about his

857
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: his name? I haven't heard it. You know, he missed

858
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: time early on for Purdue and I just haven't heard

859
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: his name. With regard to his status, I think you

860
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: can look into it. I guess as I preview this game,

861
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: but I think I like Purdue here. I think I

862
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: like Purdue. I think Purdue is taking nice steps forward,

863
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: as is Northwestern, but a road favorite Northwestern at this

864
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: point given the depths they were last year, and I

865
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: know it's been a very positive start this year. I'm

866
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: not fully bought in where I believe. I think more

867
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: in Purdue explosion potential with Xander Horvath and at least

868
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: David Bell, if not David Bell and Rondel Moore.

869
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go Purdue. Purdue has pleasantly

870
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: surprised me in the early going here, and even without

871
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: the talent of Rondale More, they still found a way

872
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: to win games. And so let's just steer into that.

873
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 2: Their home dog here, I'll take the points at home.

874
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: I agree. And Perdue won this game last year close,

875
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: which worries me because Northwestern was garbage and Northwestern won

876
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: the previous five matchups, so there is I mean, they

877
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: generally generally play close games. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm

878
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna roll with the explosion once again.

879
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: That brings us to the nightcap.

880
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: There are ty, I have actual breaking news. Not to

881
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: abuse your your bell, your ding, We.

882
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 2: Have breaking news.

883
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Boo boo. Can you hear me?

884
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: Ty?

885
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, Alabama LSU and Texas A and M Tennessee

886
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: have been postponed. Wow, it's good we didn't lock either

887
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: of those up, per Bruce Feldman of the Athletic Damn.

888
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: And it's due to it. I'll read you the full news.

889
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Have been postponed due to a combination of positive test

890
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: contact tracing and subsequent quarantining of individuals within the LSU

891
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: and Texas A and M football program. So what does

892
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: this mean for CBS. There's just no game on the

893
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: CBS this weekend, which that's a bummer if you're at

894
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: CBS and that AD revenue is important. But yeah, SEC football,

895
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: So no now, no A and M. Tennessee, Bama, LSU,

896
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Auburn.

897
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay for here, let's go to a seven pm

898
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: game that I believe is on as of now.

899
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: So do we want to leave our Bama LSU preview

900
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: and our Tennessee A and M preview because we didn't

901
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: really feel like it was happening. I say we leave

902
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: it in there and give people the full ride and

903
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: experience of finding out if there was breaking news in

904
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: the miss show.

905
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: Listen, it's very rare in this on demand universe that

906
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: we actually get the break news during the show. So

907
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: we're leading that in. I don't care.

908
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, great, people make it.

909
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: This far, then they can realize that we came away

910
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: more informed at the very end.

911
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

912
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: It was a journey number eleven Oregon minus only nine points,

913
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: Dan Wow on the road at Wazoo. Nine points that

914
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: feel low to you? Nine points?

915
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: I love Washington State here?

916
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Really?

917
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: Why? Yeah? What the polose, it's cold. Oregon traditionally does

918
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: not play very well at Washington State. I know it's

919
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: a first year coach and a freshman quarterback and a

920
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: new offense, like everything's new about Wazoo. They looked pretty

921
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: competent last week against Oregon State, granted just the Beavers,

922
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: but I just I have shed too much emotion over Oregon,

923
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Washington State Wazoo over the years. It was close last

924
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: year when Oregon looked to be a lot better than

925
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: the Cougars. And there's just Oregon doesn't really have much

926
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: tape on what Washington State's doing. This is not an

927
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: air raid team anymore. There's more balanced. Dean McIntosh had

928
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: a really nice first game. So I think Oregon wins

929
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: this game. But I think it's close and weird and cold,

930
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, give me, give me Wazoo to cover at home.

931
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: Give me one reason why I shouldn't take Utah minus

932
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: three over UCLA as my lock of the week.

933
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Week one to week two. UCLA is going to be inconsistent,

934
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: and so as soon as you think they are a nightmare,

935
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: they're pretty good. As soon as you think they're pretty good,

936
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: they look awful. Utah hasn't played a game yet because

937
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: of a COVID cancelation last week against Arizona. It's at UCLA.

938
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Those are a few. Utah has a ton of new names,

939
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: especially on offense.

940
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: All Right, all right, I still like Utah to win,

941
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to lock that one up.

942
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: I I like Utah as well. I like Utah.

943
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: It's but not playing, you know how I feel about that.

944
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: I'm always inclined to take points. I am not here,

945
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to lock it up. We've also

946
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: got late late game ten thirty Cal on the road

947
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: at ASU. ASU is a four point home favorite. Does

948
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: this line surprise you at all?

949
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: No, because of ASU now having that week two element

950
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: where they're able to diagnose and go back and fix,

951
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: whereas Cal, you know, start and stop. It looks like

952
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: they look like they were going to play against Washington,

953
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: of course, and that game got canceled relatively late, and

954
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: so now Cal. Even though the thing I do like

955
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: about Cal here, aside from even just liking Cal, which

956
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I do, is the fact that Justin Wilcox teams in

957
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: Berkeley have started really, really well. I don't think he's

958
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: lost a non conference game, so they've played early on

959
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: very well in their seasons. It's a different year, but

960
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Asu here.

961
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to go cal as you know, Google for

962
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: Garber's sure also lately game in the PAC twelve Oregon

963
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: State on the road at Washington. Washington's a thirteen point

964
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: favorite here. This game is kicking at eleven pm Eastern.

965
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: I will be asleep in all likelihood. This feels high

966
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: to me. This feels high to me. Again, if we're

967
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: operating under the premise that teams playing their first game

968
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: of the year generally are a little bit sloppy, I

969
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: gotta go Oregon State. Washington hasn't played yet. They were

970
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: supposed to play cow All week ago and it didn't happen.

971
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: A lot new to Washington and double digit favorites. I

972
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: mean I mentioned double digit favorite on the road. What

973
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: that means to me? But I am going to go

974
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: Oregon State here. Oregon State has that week to advantage.

975
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I still believe in that. We'll see what it means

976
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,479
Speaker 1: by Washington, new quarterback, a lot of new faces, opt

977
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: outs upfront on defense. I'm going to Washington to win here,

978
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: but Oregon State keeps it close back and forth.

979
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: Some other games here they're earlier, but they are also

980
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: at night. We talked about Sam Pittman testing positive for Arkansas.

981
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: He's not going to be able to make the road

982
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: trip to Florida. The Gators are a seventeen and a

983
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: half point home favorite. This is a spot here, you know,

984
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: under normal circumstances, coming off that big win against Georgia,

985
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 2: who cares about Arkansas, Like, no disrespect to the Hogs,

986
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: but playing Arkansas is not playing Georgia. I would be

987
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: inclined to go points here if I knew that Sam

988
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: Pittman were on the sidelines. I don't know to what

989
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: degree Vegas is going to value a head coach missing

990
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: because of COVID, So I'm kind of on the fence.

991
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: My initial lean was Arkansas, but because Pittman's not going

992
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: to be there, I think I go Florida.

993
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: They lost to A and M by eleven, who beat

994
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: Florida for whatever transitive reasoning you believe in. So just

995
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: because it is a letdown spot and Florida looks like

996
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what Kyle Pitts's status is at the moment,

997
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: but he got his bell wrong and he left that

998
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: game in the second quarter. It didn't affect things. Kyle

999
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Trask was able to brilliantly spread the ball around. I

1000
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: think Florida's just going to be a lot more cautious.

1001
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: They're going to be happy to sit on a lead

1002
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: and not do too much, keep protecting players. I'm going

1003
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: to take Arkansas on the points, but it's never really

1004
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: that close.

1005
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, South Carolina on the road at Ole miss

1006
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: Ole Miss an eleven point favorite here, Dan, I'm inclined

1007
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: to go Ole miss here minus the points, just because

1008
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: I do kind of feel like South Carolina might be

1009
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: reverting back to that spot that I thought they might

1010
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: be in when I did my preseason preview of the game. Cocks.

1011
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me all, miss I'm right there with you.

1012
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: We've also got pit minus six and a half on

1013
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: the road against Georgia Tech. We've got Florida State on

1014
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: the road a seven point dog against NC State. We've

1015
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: got ECU plus twenty seven on the road at Cincinnati.

1016
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: And then if we travel back in time but beta

1017
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: do to Friday, We've got Iowa minus three on the

1018
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: road at Minnesota. You know what, I really love Iowa

1019
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: minus those three points, Dan, I think I'm gonna lock that.

1020
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Up of the week.

1021
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm going anti Minnesota since they've burnt me twice. This

1022
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: is the week they're gonna win out right, mind you,

1023
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: but I'm willing to press my walk and go Iowa

1024
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 2: minus the three.

1025
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Certainly, the Hawks looked a lot better against Michigan State

1026
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: than they looked those first couple of weeks. But you

1027
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: know what, maybe pretty a Northwestern pretty good, so I

1028
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: understand the pick. I like Iowa there as well, just

1029
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: because Minnesota is as flawed as Iowa has looked at time.

1030
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: At times, Minnesota is sort of across the board on defense.

1031
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: Florida State n C State, I don't have a lot

1032
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: of thoughts there, but uh, I'm gonna take Florida State.

1033
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: With n C State perhaps in a letdown spot after

1034
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: keeping it close and maybe should have beaten Miami. Cincinnati

1035
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: is actually my lock of the week, luck of the

1036
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: week because ECU has a terrible defense, So I think

1037
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's going to score a whole butt ton of points,

1038
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm hopeful that Pitt is able to keep

1039
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: moving the ball like they did last week against Florida State,

1040
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: especially on the ground. Against Georgia Techa an improving but

1041
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: still team with the ways to go. So I'm gonna

1042
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: go with Pitt. It was it Vinnie Davis that that's

1043
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: one of the guys. Yeah, Vinchinzo, I'm gonna go with

1044
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: Pitt here to win by you know, ten or thirteen

1045
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: points against Georgia Tech. Did you, by the way, did

1046
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: you have thoughts about paton Ardoozy's Notre Dame comments.

1047
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. He so his comment was basically play

1048
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: with us or don't I think.

1049
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: Right, like, if you're going to join the conference, we

1050
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: get why you did it this year, but it's been

1051
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: great having you. You should be here because it makes

1052
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: our conference better, but to just sort of hop along

1053
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: when it's convenient like we should. And it was basically

1054
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: the point too. It's like the ACC shouldn't do Notre

1055
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Dame's bidding if they're if we're just gonna be half

1056
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: pregnant or something like that.

1057
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, you know where I stand on this.

1058
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: I said for a long time now that I would

1059
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: love if Notre Dame joined it conference. I always thought

1060
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: the Big ten made more sense. Obviously, Notre Dame is

1061
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: in the ACC and other sports, so they've made that

1062
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: calculation that for other sports it makes sense to be

1063
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: in that conference. I will maintain what I've said all

1064
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: along that I hope one of the takeaways from this

1065
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: interim ACC membership is that it works for them and

1066
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: they decide it's a good decision for the football program

1067
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: moving forward. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that

1068
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's, at least football identity is pretty tightly interwoven

1069
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: with the notion of independence. It means a lot to them.

1070
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: It's not just kind of a hollow thing. If you

1071
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: know anything about Notre Dame, you know that they really

1072
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: truly value that. They feel like it gives them a

1073
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: leg up. So look, I don't necessarily see that changing

1074
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: through one interim stint with the ACC. I would personally

1075
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: like it, but I don't see it changing. I also

1076
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: understand where Nardoozi is coming from, right, He's not necessarily

1077
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: slamming Notre Dame. He's saying, I hope they well, I

1078
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: hope they join.

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00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 1: But he's more advising the ACC to do what's best

1080
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: for them more than what is best for Notre Dame.

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00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So I get it on all sides. You

1082
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: know where I stand on the matter. I don't think

1083
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: anything changes in the short term. But we'll see, Dan,

1084
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: We'll see, won't we What happens if Notre Dame goes

1085
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: to an ACC championship game and if that propels them

1086
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: into a playoff berth, if it gets them a higher

1087
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: seed in a potential playoff. I don't know if that's

1088
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: even possible at this point, but look, it's an interesting

1089
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: conversation to have after the fact.

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Speaker 1: My only thing with Notre Dame at this point with

1091
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: regard to conferences and independence and TV deals and whatever,

1092
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: is I really like watching Notre Dame Clemson games. I

1093
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: don't feel like Clemson during this these last few years

1094
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: has had a natural rival and Notre Dame makes too

1095
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: much sense. These feel like two programs even no matter

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: who's coaching them. At least for the time being, they're

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01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: going to be successful enough. They're going to pour resources

1098
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: into football enough and make good hiring decisions. I believe

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: that it'd be fantastic to have Notre Dame with year

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01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: in and a year in and year out group of rivals,

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01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: and when you look at the teams they play in

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01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: what basketball and just having you know, Notre Dame pit

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01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame Boston College just feels like there's a

1104
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of crossover there, especially when those two teams are

1105
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: are pretty decent. And yeah, you want to play USC

1106
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: every year, Sure, that's your one in the way that

1107
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, Clemson plays South Carolina, Florida State plays Florida,

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: there's your headline. And just like that, the haphazard element

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01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame just sort of existing without interest, like

1110
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: we could if Notre Dame Clemson played again next year,

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea when the next time they're playing.

1112
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: Is like we have this recent emotional history to piggyback,

1113
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the greatest things about

1114
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: college football, are like, well this happened last year, so

1115
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: are they out for revenge? L Ah bah, there's bad

1116
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: blah blah. That's great, and I just I don't feel

1117
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: it with Notre Dame and that many other schools. And

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to have that develop with Notre Dame. As

1119
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: much as I like to make fun of the Irish

1120
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: because it's ridiculous, I want that for college football, for

1121
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame to have those geographic, those ideological, those competitive rivals.

1122
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: That is it. Michigan is it, Michigan State, is it,

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01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Stanford is a USC Just those teams in Notre Dame

1124
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: have not moved the needle for me in quite some time.

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Speaker 2: They do play Clemson again in twenty twenty two and

1126
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two years three. Yeah, so they've got a

1127
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: home and home that starts up again in two years.

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01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: And it looks like, you know, they're on a semi

1129
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: regular rotation now because they do play a number of

1130
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: games against an ACC slate every season given their affiliation

1131
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: with the with the conference.

1132
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: But think of the history Notre Dame, Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami,

1133
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: Like there is there is, there's juice there, ty, and

1134
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: that's what There's z azz there to me.

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, you know where I stand on

1136
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: the matter. Yeah, I'm not always one to just jump

1137
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: aboard whatever patent Ardoozy has to say, But.

1138
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: No, we are strictly a show that every morning we

1139
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: emailed pat in Ardoozy and we said, what are we

1140
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: doing today, Bud? Yeah, what's going on? Okay?

1141
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: I think he's got a point. All right, any other

1142
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: thoughts here, Dan, you said you wanted to break down

1143
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: Colonial League receiver. So I just I'm just going to

1144
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: turn the floor to you by you Dan. The number

1145
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: eight team, by the way, is off. This week, we

1146
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: got a message from a Patreon subscriber whose wife was

1147
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: apparently dismayed. Ashley was dismayed that she felt we weren't

1148
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: giving BYU their due for ripping off the arms and

1149
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: legs of nearly everyone they faced. I believe I said

1150
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: something like that, Ashley, So apologies if I do not

1151
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: convey how I feel about the Coops, but if at

1152
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: a really good year, we love their quarterback situation. They're

1153
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: number eight in the nation, and I saw according to

1154
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: ESPN's latest run of projections, they're giving them like a

1155
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: twenty three percent chance to make the playoff. So things

1156
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: really go sideways. Who the hell knows.

1157
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: We did not preview for obvious logistical time reasons. Tuesday

1158
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Action because it begins in three hours. Akron, Ohio, Kent

1159
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: State Bowling, Green Miami Buffalo is what is starting soon?

1160
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan ball State. I'm in. I'm going to watch

1161
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: some Toledo Western Michigan tomorrow. I'm going to watch them

1162
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: stang in some Rocket football tomorrow. Central Michigan the Chips

1163
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: against Northern Illinois Colorado State, Boise State. I don't have

1164
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts because I don't know who's playing

1165
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: quarterback for Boise State. After Jack Sears went down early.

1166
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Fau FIU always bloody, I guess would be a word

1167
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: to describe that pseudo rivalry or that full on rivalry.

1168
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: Army Tulane felt like a while since we've discussed army results.

1169
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Tulane can run the hell out of the ball,

1170
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: I believe if I'm remembering the green Wave correctly, and

1171
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: the greatest logo in college football, the Angry Wave. Georgia

1172
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: State app State doesn't do too much for me. Utah

1173
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: State now moving on without Gary Anderson hosting Fresno State,

1174
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: a team that I think I'm perennially interested in. Otherwise,

1175
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: as I scroll through, I think we hit I mean,

1176
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: I've mentioned Chavon Cordero worth watching. San Diego State maybe

1177
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: not that good, but Hawaii is traveling to San Diego,

1178
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: which ideal in terms of travel, my ideal in terms

1179
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: of travel. This is as good as it's going to

1180
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: get SMU Tulsa Tulsa b UCF. That's a little come on, ty,

1181
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: a little saucy. Not bad Tulsa's RENCHI give Tulsa WRENCHI

1182
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Temple's bad, and UCF should put up a lot on them.

1183
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: UNLV is probably bad in San Jose State. One of

1184
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: the better stories Nick Starkle, though Nick Darkle got hurt

1185
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: last week. But they're three to zer under Brent Brennan,

1186
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: who I think could be in line for an interesting

1187
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: job soon here. And I think that's it. I think

1188
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: that's all I have the care in me to talk about.

1189
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: So on that note, I already mentioned cal Eldred Damn

1190
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: all right, that's all I have.

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: David Wells, David Wells definitely did not are the ice. Oh,

1192
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: David Wells held up his end of the icing bargain

1193
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: for sure. Look, if you're out and about this weekend,

1194
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: if you're not able to PLoP yourself in front of

1195
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: a TV, go to channel eighty four on your series

1196
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: some dial, look up college sports now on Tune in

1197
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: to catch the college football Blitz. Our friends over at

1198
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: lear Field IMG College do a really good job all

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: throughout the day, fifty six minutes of live play by

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: play coverage for every hour they're on again, literally all day.

1201
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: In some cases, you get both sides of the broadcast

1202
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: both local feeds because they've got so many rights to

1203
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: all these games out there. Do an awesome job. It's

1204
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: sort of the secret weapon for me when I'm out

1205
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: amongst the people. Dan just making sure that I'm up

1206
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: to speed what's going on in college football. It's like

1207
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: red zone on your audio dial. Do an awesome, awesome job.

1208
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: Can't recommend that enough. We will be back this weekend

1209
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: to recap all of this action. Don't forget as you're

1210
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: listening to Dial four weight verbal one four eight, eight,

1211
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: three seven two two five one if you want to

1212
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: leave a reverb, we'll cut those up and play them

1213
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday. And oh, by the way, we do have

1214
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: another show that we call the UFO Show, which will

1215
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: drop on early Friday morning talk some big picture subjects.

1216
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: We've had two interviews the last two weeks. We'll see

1217
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: where the orbit goes this Friday.

1218
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: Can you line up a an A list actor, movie star?

1219
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: Can I?

1220
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had McConaughey. I'm looking up notable people from

1221
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Allentown right now. Porn star actress on Bones, Tim Heidaker,

1222
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: who he's not a list, Tim Heidaker of like Tim

1223
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: and Eric show, awesome job. He's on a new Showtime

1224
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: show with Fred Armison and John c Riley Leiah Cooca. Okay,

1225
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: Allentown is not bringing may not be available. Ed McCaffrey,

1226
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: m can you we can't get to Ed McCaffrey. I

1227
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: bet we could get to Ed. Ed.

1228
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: We could get to Ed McCaffrey.

1229
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: Christine Taylor Melody on, Hey dude, we could get to

1230
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: Amanda Sea Freed. Amanda Seyfried has a connection to Allentown.

1231
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: This is true.

1232
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: That that is true?

1233
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: You know about that? I do?

1234
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1235
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: What high school did she go to? Just from Allentown?

1236
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up right now, Early Life. She may

1237
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: have gone to William Allen Hine two thousand and three.

1238
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: Also think we can get Amanda safered on this show.

1239
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough enough on short notice.

1240
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: She's interested.

1241
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: I will also close with this to bring it all

1242
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: full circle. How the hell did Kevin Apier not win

1243
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: Cy Young in nineteen ninety three, Jack McDowell, They just

1244
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: went with wins. Kevin Apier's war is off the charts

1245
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: for his nineteen ninety three season.

1246
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: What was his career?

1247
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: Eer? Okay, Apier, that were your guess? Says three and

1248
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: A half three point five zho yeah, three point seven four.

1249
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: That feels about right.

1250
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, his nineteen ninety two, nineteen ninety three, and

1251
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety all look to be pretty steale.

1252
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: The Royals weren't very good though.

1253
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: That was part of it, I know, and that's the

1254
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: thing they held that against him. So justice for a

1255
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: beer unless he's a bad dude. I have no idea.

1256
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: This took a weird turn, but we hope you enjoy

1257
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: your suitcase Saturday. We'll be back on Friday. In the

1258
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: meantime for that go over there my good friend Dan

1259
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: Rubisdeed for myself, Ty Hildebrandt, we will talk to y'all

1260
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Meantimes, they saw him peace