WEBVTT - Big Stories of 2023: X - The ex-Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and how the

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<v Speaker 1>tech are You. We are talking about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest stories in tech over the last year, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking back at a huge train wreck of a

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<v Speaker 1>story that of how the platform formerly known as Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>currently known as a disgrace. I'm sorry as X has

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<v Speaker 1>navigated the year. And before I get into it, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a huge shout out to the folks

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<v Speaker 1>over at the Verge. They have a collection of stories

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<v Speaker 1>gathered under the banner the Year Twitter Died. So seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be hitting some highlights of what has gone on

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of actually the last two years, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do some background on this, but to

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<v Speaker 1>really get into the muck, I recommend checking out the

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<v Speaker 1>articles that are part of the Year Twitter Died over

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<v Speaker 1>at the Verge. They're really good and they go into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more analysis and even opinion, So check those out.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's set the scene, all right. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, folks began to notice that Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk was appearing to accumulate a significant amount of Twitter stock,

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<v Speaker 1>like around nine percent of all outstanding shares by early spring,

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<v Speaker 1>the rumor mill was a buzz that Musk might be

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<v Speaker 1>making a move to purchase Twitter, which is a or

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<v Speaker 1>at the time was a publicly traded company now. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point, Musk actually received an offer for a seat

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<v Speaker 1>on the board of directors, and he considered taking it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>taking that position would mean that Musk would have to

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<v Speaker 1>agree to not buy more than fourteen point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the company stock, he would not be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>own any more than that, and it would also mean

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<v Speaker 1>he would actually have to agree to be more careful

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<v Speaker 1>about what he said publicly about Twitter. Well, neither of

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<v Speaker 1>those things really suited Musk, and he declined the offer. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk made an unsolicited bid for the company itself. He

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<v Speaker 1>offered up a deal that would see shareholders receive fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four dollars twenty cents per share. Now, at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter stock was trading at around forty five dollars per share,

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<v Speaker 1>so this would be a significant bump in investments. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're an investor and you own, you know, one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>shares in Twitter and it's going from forty five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty four. That's great. That's like a nine thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars profit from what you had already held. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So Musk's offer was kind of flirting at the edge

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<v Speaker 1>of a hostel takeover attempt, and he also announced when

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<v Speaker 1>he had secured fun from various partners who would contribute

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<v Speaker 1>to his purchase of this. Because while Musk is, or

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<v Speaker 1>at times has been, the most wealthy person in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>that wealth is tied into other assets. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he has a Scrooge make Duck vault full of gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins that he goes swimming in. Most of his money

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<v Speaker 1>is tied up in stocks in other companies, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that he can just like take forty four

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars out of the bank and slap it down

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<v Speaker 1>on the table and buy Twitter. So the board of

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<v Speaker 1>director said they would consider the offer. They also prepared

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<v Speaker 1>a measure to protect Twitter should Musk actually pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>hostile takeover, in a type of protection called a poison pill.

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<v Speaker 1>To get into that would take a little too much time,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just say that they were kind of hedging

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<v Speaker 1>their bets anyway. From that point things went bonkers. The

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<v Speaker 1>board agreed to Musk's offer, whereupon Musk appeared to suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>develop second thoughts. By mid May, so like a month

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<v Speaker 1>after this had really gotten started, Musk was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the deal he had proposed, and he

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<v Speaker 1>cited all sorts of concerns, saying that things at Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>weren't as peachy keen as he had been led to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>that the platform was absolutely riddled with bots, and that

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<v Speaker 1>this had driven up Twitter's value to a level that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't realistic. But the problem was Musk's agreement had ceded

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<v Speaker 1>his rights to due diligence, like he had agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>just skip due diligence, so he was kind of stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like agreeing site unseen that you're going to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a house and you sign a contract. Then you show

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<v Speaker 1>up and you find out the houses in shambles, but

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<v Speaker 1>we've already signed the contract. You gave up your rights

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<v Speaker 1>in the agreement. Well Over the following months, Musk repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>made statements saying things at Twitter were really not good,

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<v Speaker 1>the company was garbage, that he didn't want to buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>and meanwhile the board of directors were taking legal action

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<v Speaker 1>to force Musk to follow through on the deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know their point was, Hey, you said you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to buy this. Even if you're not gonna buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna owe us a billion dollars because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the agreement says. If you back out, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>pay a billion for that privilege. And you are sabotaging

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<v Speaker 1>the company, right, you are saying all these terrible things

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<v Speaker 1>about the company in an effort to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>this deal. We're going to make you follow through. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk did follow through on the deal, but only after

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear there was no way for him to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the hole he himself had dug. Once

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<v Speaker 1>he realized, oh no, the consequences of my own actions

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<v Speaker 1>are inevitable, he kind of accepted it and went ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and purchased the company. So in October twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk acquired Twitter, and it didn't take long at

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<v Speaker 1>all before he started making huge moves. He cleared house,

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<v Speaker 1>He fired essentially the board of directors in the executive

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<v Speaker 1>team over at Twitter. He also fired about half of

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter's workforce right out of the gate, and made demands

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<v Speaker 1>that led to thousands of other employees resigning because they

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<v Speaker 1>refused to work under the circumstances that he was demanding,

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<v Speaker 1>and Musk reigned over a significantly damaged Twitter. This kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sets the scene for twenty twenty three. Now, even

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<v Speaker 1>before twenty twenty three got started, Twitter was already facing

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge when it came to revenue. The company has

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<v Speaker 1>always struggled with revenue and profitability. Even when Twitter was

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<v Speaker 1>going gangbusters, it wasn't really a profitable company. But according

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<v Speaker 1>to Musk himself, Twitter was losing around four million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per day back in November of twenty twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers were starting to show signs of caution upon Musk's

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<v Speaker 1>acquisition of the company, And this, as it would turn out,

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<v Speaker 1>would be a tiny preview of what was to come

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three. So in January twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter had around two thousand, three hundred employees. Before Musk

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<v Speaker 1>took the company over, it had seven four hundred folks

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<v Speaker 1>working there. So now they were down to less than

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<v Speaker 1>half of their workforce from just a few months earlier. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk had these huge dreams he wanted implemented. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to transform Twitter into something that had been on

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<v Speaker 1>his mind for years, a sort of everything app, similar

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<v Speaker 1>to China's we Chat app, where you could communicate, you

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<v Speaker 1>could conduct commerce, you could do all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>His version of the app had its roots way back

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<v Speaker 1>in his early days as one of the co founders

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<v Speaker 1>of the company that would eventually become PayPal. His version

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<v Speaker 1>back then was to be called x, But Musk wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it come to fruition because some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>folks at the company that would become PayPal decided that

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<v Speaker 1>Dusk was a bit much and they muscled him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the company. Apparently Musk had been determined to prove

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<v Speaker 1>them wrong ever since. Anyway, Musk wanted to transform Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>into something beyond what it already was. But that is

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to do, even if you haven't just gone

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and reduced your workforce by more than half. Just

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<v Speaker 1>keeping Twitter running was a challenge, let alone building the

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<v Speaker 1>elements that would turn it into an everything app. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>this drive took too much attention and led to situations

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<v Speaker 1>that if Musk had been a little more attentive, could

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<v Speaker 1>have been avoided. But seeing as how Musk typically reacts

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<v Speaker 1>poorly to pretty much every situation he's ever put in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced. In March twenty twenty three, Musk stated

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<v Speaker 1>that he figured Twitter at that point was worth around

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<v Speaker 1>twenty billion dollars. That had to be a blow, because, again,

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty four dollars twenty cents per share, the price

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<v Speaker 1>that Musk paid when he bought company, it brought the

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<v Speaker 1>company up to around forty four billion, So, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the workforce, Twitter's value was reduced by more than half

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<v Speaker 1>since Musk's takeover. Worse yet, Fidelity gave an even more

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<v Speaker 1>drastic estimate, valuing the company down to fourteen point four

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<v Speaker 1>one billion, so like a third of what Musk had

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<v Speaker 1>paid for it. Beyond the monetary value, some users were

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<v Speaker 1>questioning the practical value of Twitter. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>owners of Note could have their accounts verified by Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and they would receive a little blue check mark, and

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<v Speaker 1>this mark alerted other users on Twitter that that account

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately represented who or what it claimed to, whether that

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<v Speaker 1>was a celebrity or a news organization or a politician,

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<v Speaker 1>a government agency, what have you. But Musk changed that

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<v Speaker 1>and in twenty twenty two he introduced a paid for

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<v Speaker 1>check system and for eight a month, initially twenty bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a month, but he walked that back because people freaked

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<v Speaker 1>out about it. Anyone could get a check mark. Suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>the verification element of check marks was out the window,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, several mischief makers took the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>create new accounts that impersonated famous people or brands or

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<v Speaker 1>government agencies. They paid for the check mark so it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like they were the verified account representing that entity,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they started posting all sorts of stuff, including

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<v Speaker 1>really awful stuff. This damaged Twinter's reputation, particularly among brands

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<v Speaker 1>which weren't keen on some Yahoo on the site pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to represent them. It was one of many questionable decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that would lead us to where we are today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about some of those questionable decisions, but right

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<v Speaker 1>now we have a decision that's not questionable, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is to thank our sponsors. We're back. So one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Musk has also done repeatedly is kind of position

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<v Speaker 1>himself as a champion of free speech. You might find

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<v Speaker 1>that his parameters of what constitutes free speech are somewhat subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate speech seemed to increase and flourish on the platform

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<v Speaker 1>a matter that led more than one organization to accuse

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter of failing to prevent or mitigate the problem. Musk's

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<v Speaker 1>response typically is to threaten lawsuits against organizations complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>hate speech on the platform. Meanwhile, more advertisers were rethinking

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship with Twitter, with several pausing spending on any

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<v Speaker 1>advertising money for Twitter campaigns. The situation got bad enough

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<v Speaker 1>that Musk was convinced he needed to find a new CEO,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly to help bring advertisers back to the platform. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk had said his plan was only to act as

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<v Speaker 1>interim CEO from the very beginning. He said that Susie

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<v Speaker 1>found a suitable replacement, that person would be put in

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<v Speaker 1>charge and he would step away. This was something that

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<v Speaker 1>was necessary because shareholders and other companies like Tesla were

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<v Speaker 1>becoming frustrated that Musk's attention was on this social platform

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<v Speaker 1>instead of say, his car company, and that their investments

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<v Speaker 1>in the car company were suffering as a result because

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<v Speaker 1>the company wasn't really going in any good direction. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was this pressure on Elon Musk to name a

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<v Speaker 1>successor over at Twitter, and he did sort of. He

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<v Speaker 1>named Linda Yakarino, a former executive with NBC Universal, who

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<v Speaker 1>was known for having strong relationships with advertisers, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>She worked with advertisers and brands in a high profile

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<v Speaker 1>media company, so she seemed like an ideal choice at

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<v Speaker 1>least as far as repairing Twitter's relationship with brands and

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<v Speaker 1>ad companies would go. But Yakarino has found herself somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>hampered by the fact that Elon has stick on with Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and by some accounts at least essentially is still running

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<v Speaker 1>the show over there. So in other words, the common

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<v Speaker 1>perception is that Yakarino is over there to try and

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<v Speaker 1>smooth things out with advertisers and brands, but not to

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<v Speaker 1>actually run the company. That would be Musk's purview. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's a reflection of what is actually happening over at X,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is the common perception anyway, whether she's calling

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<v Speaker 1>the shots or not. She hasn't really been able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the migration of advertisers from the company. Occasionally you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear about one tentatively coming back, but more frequently you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about them leaving now. Back in the spring, Musk

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<v Speaker 1>also rebranded Twitter as X Corp. The platform was still

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<v Speaker 1>called Twitter at this point. That would change over the

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<v Speaker 1>summer when Twitter shed its old name and adopted X

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<v Speaker 1>as it's new name, and it also got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>all the Twitter branding and the logos and everything that

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<v Speaker 1>had defined Twitter for more than a decade. This move

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<v Speaker 1>confused a lot of people. It's generally believed that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea to toss aside a widely recognizable brand

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<v Speaker 1>and to start from scratch. It certainly led to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>using the phrase X formerly known as Twitter. I still

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<v Speaker 1>hear that, and it's been six months since the change. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of value that's built up in a brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of the reason people say X formerly

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<v Speaker 1>known as Twitter is that they missed the old Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of them indicating like, the thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about now is not the same as the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I enjoyed using, you know, two years ago. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided, for whatever reason to throw all that value out,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly because Elon Musk has some level of obsession over

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<v Speaker 1>the brand X. The changes kept coming. In August, tweet Deck,

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<v Speaker 1>which had started off as a third party Twitter client,

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<v Speaker 1>and then later Twitter acquired tweet deck went from being

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<v Speaker 1>freely available to anyone to being locked behind a paywall

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<v Speaker 1>so only X subscribers can access the tweet deck tool.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a huge hassle to folks who managed multiple

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<v Speaker 1>accounts on X, myself included. I had my own account,

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<v Speaker 1>I had tech Stuff's account, I had a few others,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really easy to manage from a single

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<v Speaker 1>view in tweet deck, but putting it behind a Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>subscription was a drag. Part of the reason it was

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<v Speaker 1>a drag is that by this point, the Twitter or

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<v Speaker 1>rather X check mark was no longer looked at as

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<v Speaker 1>verification or even a social badge of honor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>quite the opposite. Actually, people started to look at that

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<v Speaker 1>check mark as a sign that you were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a stooge. At least that was the general perception among

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<v Speaker 1>a subset of Twitter's population or X's population. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some accounts that retained the check mark because they just

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<v Speaker 1>had so many followers that musk allowed them to continue

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<v Speaker 1>having the check mark. They would proclaim, Hey, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>my choice. I didn't subscribe to X. They just gave

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<v Speaker 1>me the check mark, and I have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. So it became the opposite social status than

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<v Speaker 1>what it had used to be this past summer, Musk

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<v Speaker 1>also announced that non subscribers would have limits to the

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<v Speaker 1>number of posts they would be able to see in

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<v Speaker 1>a day. Now. The official story for this is that

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<v Speaker 1>they would cut down on data scriping across the platform,

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<v Speaker 1>though skeptics figured it was an effort to drive more subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Musk also introduced a revenue sharing plan for certain Twitter users.

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<v Speaker 1>You again would need to be subscribed to Twitter to

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<v Speaker 1>qualify for this. Musk also generously indicated that he would

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<v Speaker 1>put any money his own account earned back into the pool,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously, Musk has the most followed account on the platform. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that investigations indicated that a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>musks followers appear to either be inactive or potentially bots.

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<v Speaker 1>Most have fewer than a dozen posts credited to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them have no followers of their own. They

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be passive accounts and arguably serve no value

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<v Speaker 1>other than to inflate Musk's own follower numbers. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what else. X also changed its API, its application programmer interface.

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<v Speaker 1>It got rid of all the free options replaced it

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<v Speaker 1>with tiers of paid service. The top tier for enterprises

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<v Speaker 1>costs a blistering forty two thousand dollars a month. This

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<v Speaker 1>led to several developers saying they would have to call

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<v Speaker 1>it quits on their Twitter related apps or they would

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<v Speaker 1>just go bankrupt trying to run them. Musk also welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>back folks who had previously been banned on the platform,

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a space for that free speech he values

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Again, your mileage may vary with Musk's dedication

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<v Speaker 1>to free speech. If you criticize Musk, you might find

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that free anyway. These questionable decisions would include

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<v Speaker 1>reinstating the account of Alex Jones, which was a decision

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<v Speaker 1>that was so shocking I'm sure it convinced advertisers that

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<v Speaker 1>had been on the fence about leaving to just pick

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<v Speaker 1>up their bags and go. At that point. The company's

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<v Speaker 1>financial situation, i think it's safe to say, is in shambles.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the year, there were stories of the company failing

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<v Speaker 1>or refusing to pay bills for stuff like office space,

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<v Speaker 1>which led to evictions and lawsuits. X employees have brought

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<v Speaker 1>legal action against the company too, saying they've been denied

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<v Speaker 1>their guaranteed severance The National Music Publishers Association has sued

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<v Speaker 1>X for two hundred and fifty million dollars, alleging multiple

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<v Speaker 1>incidents of copyright infringement. The EU has launched an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into the company to determine if X is failing to

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<v Speaker 1>follow EU law with regard to policing hate speech. The

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<v Speaker 1>companies on track to post much lower recaps new numbers

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<v Speaker 1>this year than from last year, which in turn was

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<v Speaker 1>already a drop from the year before. Pretty Much every

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<v Speaker 1>story coming out of X right now is negative, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Vegas is going to start taking bets on if,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe even when the company will collapse. So can

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<v Speaker 1>X make it through twenty twenty four and out the

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<v Speaker 1>other side? I personally believe it would be much easier

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve that if someone convinced Musk to just step

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<v Speaker 1>back from the company entirely, But I'd be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>he actually does it. I don't know. The company does

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of staying power. I mean, it stuck

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<v Speaker 1>around for years without making any sort of profit, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just I don't know. The perception seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>that X now is just a toxic environment and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's destroying itself from within, so we'll see. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty sad, especially for all the people who lost

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs in the wake of Musk taking over. But

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, maybe it will transform itself again. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to see what happens in twenty twenty four. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope all of you are well, and I'll talk

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