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Speaker 1: Under Hoops Tonight, all right, let's talk some basketball. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start with Lakers Grizzlies. There is a formula

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Speaker 1: that we are seeing kind of take shape with this

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis surrounded by a ton of offensive skill. This

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Speaker 1: is where the value of rim pressure comes in. When

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Speaker 1: you have guys that just relentlessly, through size and strength

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Speaker 1: and athleticism and skill, push the ball closer and closer

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Speaker 1: to the rim, it collapses things around them, requires multiple

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Speaker 1: leads to all sorts of advantage opportunities off the ball.

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Speaker 1: And you saw that tonight specifically with a core of

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Speaker 1: and Ruey Hotchimura, and they all kind of did it

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Speaker 1: in their own way. I thought D'Angelo Russell had a

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Speaker 1: It was a little rough early on in that game,

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Speaker 1: kind of forcing things a little bit, but he did

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Speaker 1: monumentally important spot up jump shot. Austin Reeves again, like,

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Speaker 1: how much of a luxury is it that you can

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Speaker 1: with Lebron James and Anthony Davis on your team, run

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Speaker 1: your late game offense through Austin Reeves, and this is

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Speaker 1: where having multiple offensive threats can gift you with better

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Speaker 1: matchup opportunities. Right, Because Dylan Brooks, as he was expected

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Speaker 1: when Lebron's a little out of shape, still kind of

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Speaker 1: feeling things out, he had some success guarding Lebron, giving

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Speaker 1: make a lot of money this summer. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, for three point shooting, you kind of take

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