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Speaker 1: Being a mechanic has taught me a lot about life too.

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Speaker 1: Life is a piece of machinery, and we're all parts

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Speaker 1: of it. Some of us are cog wheels, some of

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Speaker 1: us are spark plugs, and some of us are just nuts.

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Speaker 1: The number five most expensive car to repair in this

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Speaker 1: survey Volkswagen Pasade. What does that say about Volkswagen. Volkswagen

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Speaker 1: cost more to repair than a BMW in the Mercedes.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that counts for the toe truck. Now

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Speaker 1: that I'm a mechanic, I do things that really help people. White,

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Speaker 1: I ground your valves and I scraped your carbon. If

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I can eat anything. That Car Doctor, there's

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Speaker 1: something that's gonna talk about, but I'll be darned if

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Speaker 1: because I've learned sound on radio is very important when

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Speaker 1: we keep talking. Welcome to the radio home of Ron

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Speaker 1: So keep in mind if you want to talk to

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Speaker 1: us zeros the phone number. Do you ever wonder add

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a stumble, that little bit of

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Speaker 1: a hesitation, He who hesitates is lost. Well, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: lose a whole lot more than just being lost. Two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven, Geep Liberty came into the shop at our

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Speaker 1: Automotive about three weeks ago, had a misfire on cylinder

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Speaker 1: three P zero three oh three, but it was intermittent,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't fair all the time. When I spoke to

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Speaker 1: doing it for a while, but it wasn't a hard failure.

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Speaker 1: And then it finally turned the light on and I

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Speaker 1: got the cylinder. Yeah it was. It was a P

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Speaker 1: zero three oh three misfire on cylinder three. And then

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Speaker 1: as fast as the problem was there, it went away

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't duplicate it again. And I looked at

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. I scope, it's a few things

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Speaker 1: you something that you don't feel. It will show you

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Speaker 1: the impending failure. Didn't say it, swap the ignition coils

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Speaker 1: from cylinder three with cylinder one and sent it on

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Speaker 1: its way. A few days later the phone rang it

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Speaker 1: me when he could. Sometimes when you could, you're better

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Speaker 1: off being earlier rather than later. Two weeks goes by

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Speaker 1: a misfire on cylinder one. I've got a misfire on

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Speaker 1: cylinder three which has got interesting and i'll tell you

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Speaker 1: multiple misfire P zero three. So I know the coil

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Speaker 1: on number three, which is now number one, is clearly

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Speaker 1: bad because you know, I've I've got a fault code

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Speaker 1: Started to look at a couple of things, pulled out

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Speaker 1: thousand's they were all close to sixty. They were almost

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Speaker 1: the mess goes downhill from there. It definitely doesn't go up.

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Speaker 1: So bottom line, yeah, you need a tune up. We're

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Speaker 1: it's a funny system. They've got three coils down the

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Speaker 1: left side of the motor and then three wires that

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Speaker 1: feed the right bank of the motor. So cylinder one

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Speaker 1: Cylinder five feed cylinder UM uh two right now U

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Speaker 1: is that um, actually three and six are together, five

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Speaker 1: and I gonna get this right. Three and six are together,

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Speaker 1: five and four are together, and one and one and

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Speaker 1: yeah are together. Bottom line. It created multiple misfires on

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it happened. It was an immediate

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Speaker 1: see the right bank downstream O too shut off. It

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Speaker 1: just went and flatlined. It died. Brought it back to

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Speaker 1: Pulled that downstream O two cents around and it was

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Speaker 1: that had just fallen over. Put it put two centser

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Speaker 1: could see the heat blister. That cat had been running hot,

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Speaker 1: real hot, and that's why the O two centser melted

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Speaker 1: or partially limped out. The O two centsor made no difference.

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Speaker 1: It got a it had a signal. Now it was reacting,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't wrecked. The two censors showed high voltage

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Speaker 1: O two censor. No understand how a NO two center works.

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Speaker 1: No two center produces a voltage if it's lower lean.

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Speaker 1: If it's a lean fuel condition, meaning extra oxygen, it

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Speaker 1: means there's a lack of oxygen. And what it was

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Speaker 1: happening was the catalytic converter on the right bank had melted,

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Speaker 1: was being polluted and diluted with exhaust. The exhaust couldn't

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Speaker 1: choking the engine down. Pulled the O two centsor back out,

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Speaker 1: see how the cat was broken up and starting to crumble.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line, don't ignore misfire. Ignoring misfires are kind of

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Speaker 1: like ignoring that thumping sensation you get in your chest

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Speaker 1: when you say, man, it's okay, it's just heartburn. Get

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Speaker 1: it checked out. It's not worth the risk, because in

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Speaker 1: the case of this jeep, it needed a catalytic converter.

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Speaker 1: The right bank cat had melted down and it was

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Speaker 1: once we got it apart, we would see that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the customer made the decision that they had enough. They

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Speaker 1: had some other problems with the vehicle, uh, some recalls,

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Speaker 1: some software problems, airbag. As he put it, it really

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Speaker 1: line becomes that misfires, Yeah, it's something to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to in those funny noises and sensation. Yeah, it's something

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Speaker 1: I'm aware of which, by the way, it's it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting conversation. We were talking, uh a little bit ago.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about renovating the shop, and you know how

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to clean up some scan tools and you know,

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Speaker 1: just deal with the things that are more current and modern.

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Speaker 1: Get my scan tool list down to wards. You know,

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Speaker 1: I want to work on eight to ten model years

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Speaker 1: because those older cars nobody's gonna work on. I knew

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Speaker 1: found the scan tool for the because all those hundays

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Speaker 1: point is it's hard to convince people sometimes to put

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Speaker 1: want to get rid of it. What makes me think

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna want to fix a twenty two year

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Speaker 1: old vehicle. It's just not gonna happen. So sometimes tools

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Speaker 1: have to go. Anyway. Just my two cents and just

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Speaker 1: but I get it because sometimes you gotta ride it out.

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Speaker 1: Eight zero nine zero. I'll mar any of the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome back, run

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Speaker 1: in any of the car doctor rolling along a zero

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's get over and talk to Dennis

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Speaker 1: in fair Law, New Jersey, right up the street from

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Speaker 1: the cookie factory. Um, are you down wind or up window?

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Speaker 1: Nibisco their dens so you know when they're making oreos?

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Speaker 1: Do they make oreos? They're still anymore? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes it's smell very cookie cookie ish. Uh yeah, whenever.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's the thing about if you're if you

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Speaker 1: live in North Jersey and a North Jersey and knows this,

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Speaker 1: if you're on a diet, you somehow find yourself wandering

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Speaker 1: out onto Route two oh eight just to drive up

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Speaker 1: and down, windows down so you can get the smell.

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Speaker 1: And at least you get the smell of cookie, much

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Speaker 1: less not eat one. So but that's that's the big

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Speaker 1: deal there. I'm gonna help you today, kiddo. I've got

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Speaker 1: a two thousand at six SI two miles, just broken in,

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Speaker 1: just broken in, and I want to keep it forever.

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Speaker 1: Now forever is a long time, Dennis. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: careful now. I would have replaced this car three times

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Speaker 1: if they still made it. Now it sounds like somebody

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Speaker 1: dumped some marbles into the crank case. It seems the

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Speaker 1: noise seems to be coming from upper passenger side to

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Speaker 1: the engine. It's not the uh A C clutch, and

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Speaker 1: it's not the water pump. I suspect it's a timing chain.

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Speaker 1: Now is there a simple fix for this? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. All right. Let's let me just back

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Speaker 1: up a second. So I'm going to assume that you've

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Speaker 1: pulled the belts off the front of the motor and

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Speaker 1: you've started it, and you still have the noise. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is internal in the engine. Yes, let's let's

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Speaker 1: for conversations sake, say it's it's in the timing chain.

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Speaker 1: so figure out, figure out what's setting of the battery

424
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: charger makes it? I don't know. Pick a number, fourteen two,

425
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: fourteen five, all right, put fourteen point five vaults across

426
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: the battery. Turn the headlights on. Are the headlights still dim?

427
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: If the headlights? If the headlights are still dim. Now

428
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: we know that it's got nothing to do with the engine.

429
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: You've got a bad ground somewhere in the circuit. Yeah,

430
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: that's what um. But you don't think the battery could

431
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: have been aren't so heavily on that impact? That's what

432
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: happened to impact. Well, that's what the load test will

433
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: tell us, right, Okay, you don't know, right, Well, that's

434
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: what the load test will tell us. You know, if

435
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's if we do a load test. Listen,

436
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: you're in the emergency room, okay, and you're complaining the

437
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: chest pain. You know they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna

438
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: check your heart and they're gonna check it. Six ways

439
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: to Sunday, check that battery, six ways to Sunday, every

440
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: which way you can, and you gotta go buy the numbers.

441
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: All right. I think you're right. I think it's absolutely

442
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: probably the problem is a battery, all right, well, I'm

443
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: not saying it is the battery. I'm just saying, but

444
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: you gotta test it. You have to test. Look, you

445
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: know what the problem is with diagnosis. I can. I

446
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: can tell it to You're real simple. You know what

447
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake people making diagnosis? They test looking to

448
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: find the wrong thing right away. All right, That's what

449
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I was doing. I test looking to find out what's

450
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: good so I can figure out what's bad. You can.

451
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't make any determinations in my head.

452
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll sit there and I'll go I want to check

453
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: these four things. Maybe one of these four is bad,

454
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: but I want to get them off the table. They're quick, simple, easy,

455
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: move on next, all right? If you if if you

456
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: load test that battery and it passes, and it's a

457
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: battery that takes water, and you can go sell by

458
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: cell and check each selling specific gravity that battery is

459
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: good forget it. Move on the alternator output. If it's good,

460
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: move on. If you do what I said with the

461
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: battery charger and and and check voltage output and check

462
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: headlight illumination and it doesn't improve, you're an electrician. Follow

463
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: the electrons right. If it it's got them coming in.

464
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: It can't get them going out. There's a bottleneckt somewhere,

465
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: the traffics on the highway. It's it's put an extra

466
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: ground on the headlights. For that matter, put an extra

467
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: ground on the headlights and does the headlight illumination go up?

468
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: And does the problem with the shutting off go away? Yeah?

469
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: All right, So I got a couple of things for

470
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: you to do. You'll do that. You'll call me back

471
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: next week, Jimmy, I'll do it, all right, sir. Good

472
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: luck to you, and thanks for me. You're very welcome.

473
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: Take good care. Five Listen, it's it's basics, man. You

474
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: know you can't. I mean, sometimes you get you're in

475
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: the bay and you're in it, and you know, you're

476
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: up to your eyeballs and it's Friday, it's three o'clock

477
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: and they're coming for the car, and you're just you're

478
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: that close and it's still sticking in your craw But

479
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: you've got a diagnose. You gotta find what's good so

480
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you can figure out what's bad. One of the mantras

481
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I live by in the last couple of years is

482
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the model of the

483
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: big red one the Infantry Division. Stay calm and return fire.

484
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: When you're in the middle of a diagnosis, stay calm

485
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: and return fire, because that's how you're gonna win the game.

486
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: Zero nine zero zero. I'm run on ating in the car. Doctor.

487
00:26:46,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. A welcome back run

488
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: any of the card doctor, zero nine zero zero. Let's

489
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: get over and talk to Greg and Iowa oh to

490
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Ford Ranger, pick him up truck, Greg, Welcome to the car, doctors, sir,

491
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: how can I help hi? Thank you. I've got a

492
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: two thousand to Ford Rangers, got about a hundred and

493
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: three thousand miles on. It's got that four point oh six.

494
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: I went out a couple of weeks ago too, and

495
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: just it's it's garaged. I always take care of my

496
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: service when it needs service. Went out to start it

497
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: and it just it started, but it sounded like it

498
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: was running on four cylinders, just belched black smoke and

499
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: and just would hardly run. And I goose in a

500
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: little bit and as if you got the RPMs up

501
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: that would clear up a little bit. But there was

502
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: obviously something wrong, so I shut it off open the hood.

503
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Although I'm not a mechanic I didn't know what I

504
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: was looking at, you know, and just check to make

505
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: sure the plug wires and things were there and stuff,

506
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: and waited about five minutes, started again, started fine, And

507
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: every since time I'm afraid to take it out because

508
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to get caught out somewhere and have

509
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: that problem again. I even took it to a mechanic

510
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: at one of the service stations in my small town.

511
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: But like you say, if it's not broke, you can't

512
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: fix it, you know, he couldn't find any idea of

513
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: what that might be. Well, one of the things I

514
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: would look for is that I'd love to see what

515
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: fuel pressure is like on this truck. Did anybody check

516
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: fuel pressure during the course of this? So I think

517
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: if anything, it was getting too much gas? Well, that's right,

518
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: but it's also there's also a couple of things fuel

519
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: pressure is gonna tell us. I mean there there, there's

520
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways to approach this. Number One,

521
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: when was the last time the fuel filter was replaced? Uh,

522
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you in the last six or seven months

523
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: I had. I had the UH fuel pumper place at

524
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: that time. And you know what a job the fuel is,

525
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: so I just you know what, if I'm dealing with

526
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: something in the area of a of a fuel system,

527
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I want to know when the filter was changed last.

528
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I've I've seen a lot of funny things happen from

529
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: restricted fuel filters. I don't think that's the case here,

530
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to make a point that maintenance

531
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: does help solve problems. So if it hasn't had a

532
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: fuel filter in a while, let's put it that. Let's

533
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: pull it down, blow through it, whether it's clean or dirty.

534
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: Let's just change it and get that over With that

535
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: being said, all right, they put a fuel pump in it,

536
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: all right, I still want to know what's sitting rest

537
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: fuel pressure, what is running fuel pressure? And how long

538
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: does residual fuel pressure last? All right? If fuel pressure

539
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: bleeds off within thirty seconds of turning the key off,

540
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: we got a problem. It's got to hold pressure. And

541
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: is the problem going to be is it in the

542
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: regulator or is it in the injector itself? Something's causing

543
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: or something caused this to run? Rich Right, Okay, Now,

544
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: as you said, right, you may not duplicate it again,

545
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: because but I can tell you this. Letting it sit

546
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: in the garage is only gonna make it worse. You'll

547
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: never find that, you'll never drive the vehicle that will

548
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: rot away. Yeah, so I thought, I'm probably gonna have

549
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: to take it to the dealer or something. And maybe

550
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: they had somebody said maybe it was they had all

551
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: these you know, cars are a lot different than they

552
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: were back when I was in the business, and they

553
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: have sensors and things like that that that I think

554
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: can can affect that. But that's way past well, you know, Greg,

555
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: it could, but for a censor to let's let's talk

556
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: about this. Let's say it was a cool intempt censor,

557
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: all right. And you know, back in the days you

558
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: said you were in the business, you were you in

559
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: the business in the days of carburetors and choke flaps.

560
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: So in the days of carburetors and choke flaps, if

561
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the choke flaps stuck on, that thing would run dead rich,

562
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: all right, and it would blackstood on the driveway and

563
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: foul the plugs and so on and so forth. Okay,

564
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: In computerized fuel injection vehicles, they're looking at a cool

565
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: intemp sensor. So, you know, can we duplicate it? What

566
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: does the cool intempt sensor look like, is there any

567
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: history in the system of appending code? Is it? You know?

568
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Do we if we look at cool intemp censor and

569
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: intake air temp sensor without even starting the car one day,

570
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: are they within ten degrees of each other? So there's

571
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: some testing there they can do. But even so, a

572
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: cool intemp censor, boy, you didn't have to be minus

573
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: forty on a twenty degree day. I can't say that

574
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I've seen it where it would actually physically kill two cylinders.

575
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: When you start losing cylinders, it's usually an injection issue

576
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: in that cylinder, whether it's high pressure, low pressure, no pressure,

577
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: stuck open injector p and fuel something like that. All right,

578
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to drive it. Somebody's gonna have

579
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: to start to diagnose it, hook a few things up

580
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: to it, and start to attack it from there. Um,

581
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I would I would be looking at sensors, I would

582
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: be looking at pending codes. I would monitor fuel pressure

583
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: and ask them And this is how you'll know if

584
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. Ask them if they can

585
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: look at mode six test data, modes SI Mode six

586
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: all right, Mode six test data. Did you ever wonder

587
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: how a computer knows when it has a problem. Well,

588
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: when you were a little kid, if you didn't clean

589
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: your room, how did your mother? How did your mother

590
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: find out? She went up and looked at it, right,

591
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: and then you got the beaten right? So right or

592
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: you got right. So the way the computer knows whether

593
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: or not you cleaned your room is it asks it

594
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: for the car to do something, and it looks for

595
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a response, and it tests that in an area of

596
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: the computer software called mode six. So you know, you

597
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: go to mode six. If you can read mode six,

598
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: You'll see how it tested the cooling circuit. You'll see

599
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: how it tested for engine misfires. You'll see how it

600
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: tested airflow sensor response. You'll see those tests. And even

601
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: though maybe it's not bad enough to get a spanking

602
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: turn on the check engine light, it might be bad

603
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: enough to tell you, hey, this is on the fuzzy

604
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: edge of something about to happen. And that's why. That's

605
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: what that's another thing. I forgot to tell you that

606
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: right when this happened, that the testing the check engine

607
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: light didn't come on. But as I say, for for

608
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: days I've been starting it, pulling it out, letting it

609
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: warm up, and then turn it off. Then later in

610
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: the days starting it basically back in the back, and

611
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: sometime during that time that the check engine light did

612
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: come on. There you go, you got a spanking. It's

613
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: time to go. It's time to go see mom, kiddo.

614
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: And um, you know it's time to go see mom

615
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: and get a spanking because something turned that check engine

616
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: light on. Let him take a look at it and

617
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: give me called next week. I'm sorry, I gotta go

618
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: him up against the clock, grego zero. The car doctors

619
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: come and back right after this. You know it pays

620
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: if I put my headphones on. Look at that hot Tom.

621
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm already now, Hey, Ronny in the car doctor, I'm

622
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: looking around. My years were cold, I'm saying, way and

623
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm missing something. Um, gotta put the headphones on. I'm here, folks, honest,

624
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Much to Tony Chagrin, quick piece

625
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: of email, ron thanks for your show. I'm thinking about

626
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: buying a Toyota Highlander hybrid which has a CBT trans

627
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: which just please spend a minute talking about their transmissions,

628
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: their reliability and problems. Also, if you could adjust hybrid technology,

629
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: it's level of technology integration problems you've seen et cetera.

630
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for all your help on this lance out in California.

631
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Lance and tell you what I reached out to a

632
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: personal friend. We go out to dinner three or four

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Speaker 1: times a year and spend more time than I probably

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Speaker 1: could imagine talking by emailing on the phone about cars

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Speaker 1: and Toyotas and everything in general. He's a service manager

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Speaker 1: of a Toyota dealer here in the area, so he answered.

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Speaker 1: I'll answer, CVTs have been pretty much bulletproof. For example

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Speaker 1: here we've never replaced one. As for maintenance on the transmission,

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Speaker 1: there is none. As for hybrid technology, none better than

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Speaker 1: Toyota period. Just ask those drive Toyotas just as those

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Speaker 1: drive Toyotas. For the tires and a Lexus version. Oh,

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Speaker 1: because the comment was also about how Lexus is wear

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Speaker 1: out tires faster. As for the tires and a Lexus versions,

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Speaker 1: all I have to say is bridget On tires were

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Speaker 1: out quickly. On the Toyota side. You see michel entires. Interesting, Okay. Disclaimer,

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Speaker 1: I own a Prius. This is the service manager of

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Speaker 1: a local Toyota dealer and Highland or hybrid for three

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Speaker 1: years and Brian. One of the texts owns a Prius.

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Speaker 1: He's their head tech up there, and one additional master

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Speaker 1: tech in two additional Toyota Master text both own prius

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Speaker 1: is and you know, take it from this. The shoemaker

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Speaker 1: doesn't have time to fix his shoes if they're driving them.

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Speaker 1: They must to work. So best dance where I could

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Speaker 1: give you, and I would have to back. I would

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Speaker 1: have to verify that up. You know, we don't fix

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Speaker 1: c vts in the shop, and the reason is they

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Speaker 1: don't break. We don't see the technology having a failure,

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Speaker 1: and if the dealer doesn't see it, the independents aren't

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Speaker 1: going to see it, and that sort of tells you

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Speaker 1: how good they are. Now here's here's the downside to it.

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Speaker 1: You're buying a house with a copper roof. As long

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Speaker 1: as you're prepared to have the guy that understands the

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Speaker 1: copper roof service and repair it whatever service and repair

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Speaker 1: it might need, that's okay. But if you think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a CVT with hybrid technology down the Bob's

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Speaker 1: corner garage, and Bob's better be up to the task.

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Speaker 1: So just talking my talk. Hey, I'm running any of

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Speaker 1: the card occer. It's been an absolute pleasure to be

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Speaker 1: with you these past two hours until the next time.

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Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you