WEBVTT - #1112: January 25, 2026

0:00:00.900 --> 0:00:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Now it's fire.

0:00:16.060 --> 0:00:19.270
<v Speaker 2>Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.910
<v Speaker 3>KnowledgeFight.com. It's time to pray. I have great respect for

0:00:23.070 --> 0:00:24.950
<v Speaker 3>Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight.

0:00:25.270 --> 0:00:26.990
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good

0:00:27.030 --> 0:00:28.910
<v Speaker 2>guys saying we are the bad guys.

0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Knowledge Fight.

0:00:30.060 --> 0:00:31.060
<v Speaker 4>Dan and Jordan.

0:00:31.180 --> 0:00:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Knowledge Fight.

0:00:32.260 --> 0:00:32.860
<v Speaker 4>Need money.

0:00:39.510 --> 0:00:43.790
<v Speaker 3>Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Stop it. Andy in Kansas.

0:00:43.830 --> 0:00:45.570
<v Speaker 3>Andy in Kansas.

0:00:45.630 --> 0:00:45.970
<v Speaker 4>Andy.

0:00:46.070 --> 0:00:48.589
<v Speaker 3>It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air.

0:00:48.610 --> 0:00:49.090
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for holding.

0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:50.050
<v Speaker 2>Hello, Alex.

0:00:50.170 --> 0:00:51.099
<v Speaker 4>I'm a first-time caller.

0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.660
<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.020
<v Speaker 2>Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com.

0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.350
<v Speaker 1>I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

0:01:01.390 --> 0:01:01.690
<v Speaker 1>I'm Dan.

0:01:01.830 --> 0:01:02.270
<v Speaker 4>I'm Jordan.

0:01:02.390 --> 0:01:04.430
<v Speaker 1>We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, worship at

0:01:04.450 --> 0:01:06.330
<v Speaker 1>the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about

0:01:06.670 --> 0:01:07.030
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones.

0:01:07.330 --> 0:01:08.590
<v Speaker 4>Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

0:01:08.650 --> 0:01:08.890
<v Speaker 1>Jordan.

0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:09.170
<v Speaker 2>Dan.

0:01:09.300 --> 0:01:09.619
<v Speaker 1>Jordan.

0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.389
<v Speaker 4>Quick question for you.

0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.470
<v Speaker 1>What's up? My bright spot today is that my wife

0:01:13.490 --> 0:01:15.530
<v Speaker 1>purchased for me the greatest pair of sweatpants that I

0:01:15.530 --> 0:01:16.370
<v Speaker 1>have ever owned. Drawstring?

0:01:34.910 --> 0:01:36.790
<v Speaker 4>Uh, you could spill a whole bottle of wine on

0:01:36.830 --> 0:01:38.390
<v Speaker 4>these things. Nobody would ever know.

0:01:38.410 --> 0:01:40.810
<v Speaker 1>It's like a car that doesn't show dirt. Absolutely.

0:01:40.830 --> 0:01:44.509
<v Speaker 4>They got patches on the knees, reinforced patches, not going

0:01:44.530 --> 0:01:46.339
<v Speaker 4>to kick right through them. Not going to do it.

0:01:46.830 --> 0:01:50.060
<v Speaker 4>They are also the most warm thing. Like, I don't

0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.740
<v Speaker 4>know if they're going to be good whenever it's more

0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.880
<v Speaker 4>than zero degrees outside, but for a negative 20 degree

0:01:56.940 --> 0:01:59.720
<v Speaker 4>week in Chicago, this is the greatest.

0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:01.740
<v Speaker 4>They are the greatest. They're awesome.

0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.910
<v Speaker 1>What did you say there were on the knees? Patches?

0:02:05.270 --> 0:02:09.970
<v Speaker 1>I'm depending on your son to pull the family through. Yeah.

0:02:10.010 --> 0:02:10.410
<v Speaker 1>Was it that?

0:02:10.650 --> 0:02:11.110
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

0:02:11.290 --> 0:02:11.510
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:02:11.730 --> 0:02:12.510
<v Speaker 4>I think it was.

0:02:13.169 --> 0:02:15.780
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's great. I have yet to really find a

0:02:15.790 --> 0:02:19.800
<v Speaker 1>pair of sweatpants that I can bond with. I know that.

0:02:19.820 --> 0:02:20.900
<v Speaker 1>I found some bad ones.

0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.220
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.340
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.740
<v Speaker 4>I like a good sweatpant. I find sweatpants to be

0:02:25.780 --> 0:02:27.310
<v Speaker 4>the most satisfying of clothes.

0:02:28.060 --> 0:02:30.139
<v Speaker 1>I love them. I love the idea. I just haven't

0:02:30.180 --> 0:02:33.060
<v Speaker 1>found a good one. That's all. I hold out hope

0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.100
<v Speaker 1>that one day I will be in your position.

0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:41.140
<v Speaker 4>I've got some Star Wars sweatpants. Here's the problem. No

0:02:41.180 --> 0:02:43.260
<v Speaker 4>patches on the knee. Now they've got a hole in

0:02:43.300 --> 0:02:46.990
<v Speaker 4>the knee. See what I'm saying? These new sweatpants? Patches

0:02:47.090 --> 0:02:47.810
<v Speaker 4>on the knee!

0:02:48.330 --> 0:02:48.670
<v Speaker 2>I wish.

0:02:48.950 --> 0:02:49.730
<v Speaker 4>I wish I had known.

0:02:49.750 --> 0:02:50.829
<v Speaker 1>Were you trying to get me to sing again?

0:02:51.510 --> 0:02:52.190
<v Speaker 4>Ah, goddammit.

0:02:53.150 --> 0:02:56.870
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. My son, it's

0:02:57.030 --> 0:02:59.970
<v Speaker 1>up to you to do the rest.

0:03:00.230 --> 0:03:00.650
<v Speaker 3>There you go.

0:03:00.770 --> 0:03:03.490
<v Speaker 1>My daddy was a big old man. I can see

0:03:03.530 --> 0:03:04.880
<v Speaker 1>him with the shovel in his hands.

0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:05.250
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:06.840
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:03:07.419 --> 0:03:07.660
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.940
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's January.

0:03:11.700 --> 0:03:12.060
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.040
<v Speaker 1>And this tradition in January, I'm doing the Haribo.

0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:16.740
<v Speaker 3>Still going.

0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.700
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And look, it's the 28th. There's only 24 days

0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.019
<v Speaker 1>on Advent calendar. So we're done.

0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:23.720
<v Speaker 4>That's a good point.

0:03:23.820 --> 0:03:26.130
<v Speaker 1>But I looked at the 24th, and it is actually

0:03:26.210 --> 0:03:29.990
<v Speaker 1>my favorite of Haribo's offerings. Oh, really? And that is

0:03:30.030 --> 0:03:31.109
<v Speaker 1>the Haribo Roulette.

0:03:32.260 --> 0:03:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, those are like the Lifesavers gummies.

0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.940
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little discs. Those are good, yeah. I like them

0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.700
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, so I'm not even going to try

0:03:38.740 --> 0:03:42.010
<v Speaker 1>them because that would take me a while to eat.

0:03:42.210 --> 0:03:42.990
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:03:43.190 --> 0:03:46.830
<v Speaker 1>So thumbs up. You ended strong, Haribo. That's great.

0:03:46.890 --> 0:03:47.250
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:03:47.350 --> 0:03:49.990
<v Speaker 1>Jordan, you don't need to vamp.

0:03:50.010 --> 0:03:52.210
<v Speaker 4>I was ready. I had a whole thing.

0:03:53.290 --> 0:03:56.590
<v Speaker 1>So here's my bright spot instead. Yeah. I watched an

0:03:56.630 --> 0:04:00.300
<v Speaker 1>episode of MacGyver once. two weeks ago okay that i've

0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.060
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about it no oh i've been meaning to

0:04:03.100 --> 0:04:05.180
<v Speaker 1>bring it up because we've been talking about you know

0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.440
<v Speaker 1>all my macgyver adventures i'm gonna see if i remember

0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.690
<v Speaker 1>the plot okay all right all right so macgyver yes

0:04:13.030 --> 0:04:16.500
<v Speaker 1>is out on the docks and he's he sees a

0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.270
<v Speaker 1>young girl all right he's trying to fish okay and

0:04:19.310 --> 0:04:21.070
<v Speaker 1>he's like ah you gotta do this you gotta he

0:04:21.110 --> 0:04:23.870
<v Speaker 1>fixes her reel and she catches a big fish it's

0:04:23.910 --> 0:04:27.919
<v Speaker 1>great all right turns out she's homeless Oh, okay. She's

0:04:27.940 --> 0:04:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a street kid. All right. Doesn't have a home. Is

0:04:30.820 --> 0:04:32.240
<v Speaker 1>squatting in an abandoned building.

0:04:32.300 --> 0:04:33.940
<v Speaker 4>So MacGyver has taught her how to eat for a

0:04:33.980 --> 0:04:35.350
<v Speaker 4>lifetime is what we're talking about.

0:04:35.380 --> 0:04:35.750
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:04:35.870 --> 0:04:36.290
<v Speaker 4>First off.

0:04:36.330 --> 0:04:41.380
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Good news. So that's going on. Then MacGyver gets

0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.659
<v Speaker 1>kidnapped by somebody. I don't remember exactly how this happens.

0:04:45.740 --> 0:04:45.980
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.530
<v Speaker 1>But they give him a poison. They poison MacGyver.

0:04:50.650 --> 0:04:53.410
<v Speaker 4>Knowing it's MacGyver, they kidnapped him or they just kidnapped

0:04:53.470 --> 0:04:55.030
<v Speaker 4>a person and then are poisoning him?

0:04:55.410 --> 0:04:59.630
<v Speaker 1>See, this is where I don't remember. Okay. But it's

0:04:59.670 --> 0:05:01.750
<v Speaker 1>a poison that will kill him in 48 hours.

0:05:01.790 --> 0:05:04.330
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's a terrible poison. Nobody should ever make that poison.

0:05:04.370 --> 0:05:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Right. So the bad guys are like, you're fine. Because

0:05:07.060 --> 0:05:08.380
<v Speaker 1>you're never going to get this antidote.

0:05:08.500 --> 0:05:08.820
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:05:09.140 --> 0:05:11.150
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I bet you he will.

0:05:11.330 --> 0:05:15.350
<v Speaker 1>So he goes and escapes and is wandering around the streets.

0:05:15.550 --> 0:05:17.990
<v Speaker 1>And he seems like he's a drunk because he's like

0:05:18.010 --> 0:05:18.330
<v Speaker 1>walking around.

0:05:18.350 --> 0:05:19.650
<v Speaker 4>Because he's all poisoned, yeah.

0:05:19.790 --> 0:05:23.220
<v Speaker 1>And that same kid who he had helped fish is like,

0:05:23.339 --> 0:05:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I got to help this guy.

0:05:24.300 --> 0:05:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Of course.

0:05:24.700 --> 0:05:27.680
<v Speaker 1>So she takes him to her abandoned building squat that

0:05:27.700 --> 0:05:31.800
<v Speaker 1>she lives in. Somehow they end up getting the antidote.

0:05:32.339 --> 0:05:35.380
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Look, here's the point. I don't remember,

0:05:35.550 --> 0:05:36.290
<v Speaker 1>but it was great.

0:05:36.570 --> 0:05:36.830
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:05:37.330 --> 0:05:40.150
<v Speaker 1>And at the end, he implies that he's going to

0:05:40.190 --> 0:05:41.370
<v Speaker 1>get this kid back in school.

0:05:47.390 --> 0:05:50.900
<v Speaker 4>I would appreciate one situation at the end where it

0:05:50.980 --> 0:05:53.560
<v Speaker 4>is like, hey, kid, I hate to do this for you,

0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.200
<v Speaker 4>but the systemic and structural problems are something that I

0:05:56.260 --> 0:05:59.940
<v Speaker 4>really can't alter whatsoever. So here's a 20. All right.

0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.680
<v Speaker 4>You have a good one.

0:06:00.700 --> 0:06:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm out of here.

0:06:01.060 --> 0:06:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Here's a fish. I just remembered how it happened. Okay.

0:06:04.260 --> 0:06:09.550
<v Speaker 1>So MacGyver is like bringing something back to the United States.

0:06:09.730 --> 0:06:10.380
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:06:10.490 --> 0:06:13.589
<v Speaker 1>It's like a list of agents who are undercover or

0:06:13.650 --> 0:06:16.969
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So he's with a handler and they

0:06:16.990 --> 0:06:19.650
<v Speaker 1>get attacked. He hides the database.

0:06:19.890 --> 0:06:20.230
<v Speaker 4>Of course.

0:06:20.750 --> 0:06:21.890
<v Speaker 1>In like a lamp post.

0:06:22.770 --> 0:06:23.130
<v Speaker 3>Brilliant.

0:06:23.150 --> 0:06:25.270
<v Speaker 1>And so these people give him the poison because they're

0:06:25.310 --> 0:06:28.190
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him to reveal where he hid the

0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:29.480
<v Speaker 1>list of spies.

0:06:29.620 --> 0:06:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, okay.

0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.539
<v Speaker 1>So that's why he ends up in that situation.

0:06:32.580 --> 0:06:32.740
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:06:33.339 --> 0:06:33.500
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.600
<v Speaker 4>So that's, so, okay. Here's what I'm thinking, right? If

0:06:37.660 --> 0:06:41.800
<v Speaker 4>you've got a 48-hour poison... Do you also have a

0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.360
<v Speaker 4>24-hour poison? Do you have a six-hour poison? Do you

0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.090
<v Speaker 4>have a series of poisons for the circumstances that you need,

0:06:48.190 --> 0:06:50.810
<v Speaker 4>or do you only have the 48-hour poison?

0:06:51.210 --> 0:06:55.690
<v Speaker 1>I think in this case, they were not choosing the number.

0:06:55.850 --> 0:06:56.390
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:06:56.510 --> 0:06:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just like, hey, that's how it works.

0:06:58.580 --> 0:07:00.800
<v Speaker 1>All right. This poison, that's just, we were on the

0:07:00.820 --> 0:07:01.500
<v Speaker 1>poison's time.

0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.660
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, because it seems it's useful for like a,

0:07:05.620 --> 0:07:09.050
<v Speaker 4>you know, forcing the for like a crank situation, you know,

0:07:09.060 --> 0:07:10.730
<v Speaker 4>where it's like you got a clock. You got to

0:07:10.750 --> 0:07:12.430
<v Speaker 4>get us the stuff we need or you're dead.

0:07:12.450 --> 0:07:12.910
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:07:12.930 --> 0:07:15.810
<v Speaker 4>That makes sense. But, you know, 48 is a long time.

0:07:15.830 --> 0:07:16.150
<v Speaker 1>It's too much.

0:07:16.250 --> 0:07:17.330
<v Speaker 4>It's a long time.

0:07:17.350 --> 0:07:17.510
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:07:17.910 --> 0:07:19.490
<v Speaker 4>You can figure out a lot of ways to get

0:07:19.510 --> 0:07:22.150
<v Speaker 4>around a 48-hour poison in 48 hours.

0:07:22.270 --> 0:07:22.500
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.080
<v Speaker 1>What kind of amusement are you going to get out

0:07:25.100 --> 0:07:27.460
<v Speaker 1>of this person trying to avoid death? You've got to

0:07:27.500 --> 0:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>go to bed in the middle of this.

0:07:28.820 --> 0:07:29.580
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:07:29.620 --> 0:07:31.540
<v Speaker 4>You can't stay up the whole time.

0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:32.180
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, please.

0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:32.680
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

0:07:32.780 --> 0:07:34.320
<v Speaker 4>And then while you're sleeping, what, are they going to

0:07:34.340 --> 0:07:34.780
<v Speaker 4>kill you?

0:07:35.020 --> 0:07:35.380
<v Speaker 1>They might.

0:07:35.540 --> 0:07:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

0:07:36.260 --> 0:07:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter because they don't have the antidote.

0:07:38.660 --> 0:07:38.720
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:07:38.860 --> 0:07:41.380
<v Speaker 4>I'd say 12-hour poison max.

0:07:41.740 --> 0:07:44.460
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly how it happens, but the poison

0:07:44.700 --> 0:07:47.910
<v Speaker 1>antidote pill... Ends up down a sewer grate.

0:07:48.370 --> 0:07:49.030
<v Speaker 4>Of course it does.

0:07:49.110 --> 0:07:52.260
<v Speaker 1>And MacGyver and the girl have to use their fishing skills.

0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Of course they will.

0:07:53.100 --> 0:07:55.520
<v Speaker 1>In order to get the pill out and save MacGyver's life.

0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, guys, for establishing in the early part of the

0:07:57.900 --> 0:07:59.960
<v Speaker 4>episode what skills we're going to need in the later

0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.320
<v Speaker 4>part of the episode. Fantastic.

0:08:01.380 --> 0:08:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you that this show is the best. I

0:08:05.500 --> 0:08:07.350
<v Speaker 1>love it, even though I only half remember the episode. Yeah,

0:08:07.370 --> 0:08:09.690
<v Speaker 1>it's great. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to

0:08:09.730 --> 0:08:10.010
<v Speaker 1>go over.

0:08:10.030 --> 0:08:10.230
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:08:10.700 --> 0:08:13.600
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be talking about January 25th, 2026.

0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:14.580
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that wasn't a good day.

0:08:14.700 --> 0:08:19.510
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't. So on the 24th, there was another shooting. Sure.

0:08:19.910 --> 0:08:23.990
<v Speaker 1>ICE federal agents killed another person. Yep, they murdered him.

0:08:24.790 --> 0:08:27.570
<v Speaker 1>And that was on a Saturday. And that's Alex's day off.

0:08:27.650 --> 0:08:27.870
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:08:28.030 --> 0:08:32.570
<v Speaker 1>So we will be taking a look at Sunday. What

0:08:32.590 --> 0:08:35.179
<v Speaker 1>happened when he decided to show back up and check in.

0:08:35.170 --> 0:08:37.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm excited. I think he's going to do great. Yeah,

0:08:37.260 --> 0:08:38.359
<v Speaker 4>you're going to love this. I think he's got it.

0:08:38.870 --> 0:08:40.770
<v Speaker 1>So before we get to this, though, let's take a

0:08:40.770 --> 0:08:42.070
<v Speaker 1>little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

0:08:42.130 --> 0:08:42.950
<v Speaker 4>Ooh, that's a great idea.

0:08:43.110 --> 0:08:46.790
<v Speaker 1>So first, my wife, Dr. Emma Langman-Marr, turns 50 on

0:08:46.890 --> 0:08:51.790
<v Speaker 1>February 2nd, Groundhog Day, which feels cosmically significant. She's Neo,

0:08:51.830 --> 0:08:54.590
<v Speaker 1>she's Leo, she's DCX Clark, she is the Mysterious Professor,

0:08:54.650 --> 0:08:57.429
<v Speaker 1>she's a longtime wonk, and you're her second, maybe third

0:08:57.450 --> 0:09:01.620
<v Speaker 1>favorite podcast? Hmm. She loves it when dad shouts, oh,

0:09:01.650 --> 0:09:04.260
<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. So if that happens, history will

0:09:04.300 --> 0:09:06.920
<v Speaker 1>be made. She's an incredible wife, an amazing mom, and

0:09:06.940 --> 0:09:11.220
<v Speaker 1>deeply loved. From Phil, Carl, Jacob, Dexter, Grace, Faye, and Ava.

0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:12.620
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

0:09:13.059 --> 0:09:13.939
<v Speaker 3>I'm a policy wonk.

0:09:13.980 --> 0:09:14.559
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

0:09:14.580 --> 0:09:18.770
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Happy birthday. Also, happy birthday, Daniel Day-Lewis. Not

0:09:18.830 --> 0:09:21.270
<v Speaker 1>the actor, but you know who you are. Love you,

0:09:21.350 --> 0:09:25.130
<v Speaker 1>Raptor Princess. Because of you, I've listened to 150,000 hours

0:09:25.170 --> 0:09:27.860
<v Speaker 1>of this show before realizing... I didn't know what Alex

0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Jones looked like. Thank you so much. You're now a

0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:30.179
<v Speaker 1>policy wonk.

0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:31.380
<v Speaker 3>I'm a policy wonk.

0:09:31.420 --> 0:09:32.070
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

0:09:32.130 --> 0:09:32.510
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:09:32.929 --> 0:09:35.750
<v Speaker 1>And hey, babe. Hey, baby girl. Poot on your butt.

0:09:35.870 --> 0:09:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:38.420
<v Speaker 3>I'm a policy wonk.

0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

0:09:40.350 --> 0:09:41.850
<v Speaker 1>We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank

0:09:41.870 --> 0:09:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you so much, too. I'm out of bail bond funds,

0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.720
<v Speaker 1>so you're going to have to take my money now, CDG.

0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

0:09:48.620 --> 0:09:49.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm a policy wonk.

0:09:49.700 --> 0:09:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Four stars.

0:09:50.580 --> 0:09:54.179
<v Speaker 3>Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, Sodomite,

0:09:54.210 --> 0:09:55.089
<v Speaker 3>sent me a bucket of poop.

0:09:55.460 --> 0:10:02.260
<v Speaker 2>Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a

0:10:02.380 --> 0:10:04.700
<v Speaker 2>loser little titty baby.

0:10:05.110 --> 0:10:08.230
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

0:10:08.450 --> 0:10:08.850
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

0:10:08.890 --> 0:10:09.830
<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you very much.

0:10:10.350 --> 0:10:13.790
<v Speaker 1>So Jordan, on Saturday, federal agents killed another citizen in Minneapolis.

0:10:14.490 --> 0:10:17.200
<v Speaker 1>The previous incident involved a person driving a car who

0:10:17.220 --> 0:10:21.260
<v Speaker 1>had been presumably blocking traffic before being confronted by agents.

0:10:21.820 --> 0:10:24.280
<v Speaker 1>It was an awful shooting, but the surrounding details of

0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.180
<v Speaker 1>it allowed just enough wiggle room for state media surrogates

0:10:27.230 --> 0:10:29.690
<v Speaker 1>like Alex to pretend that the agent was in fear

0:10:29.730 --> 0:10:33.260
<v Speaker 1>for his life and the killing was justified. People whose

0:10:33.300 --> 0:10:36.520
<v Speaker 1>careers rely on them pretending to be opposed to police brutality,

0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>like Alex, were able to continue their charade, taking up

0:10:39.620 --> 0:10:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the position that the police shouldn't kill people, but what

0:10:42.700 --> 0:10:44.860
<v Speaker 1>do you expect when someone's driving a car at you?

0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.679
<v Speaker 4>It is what it is.

0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Through their arguments, they were insincere and they were based

0:10:50.020 --> 0:10:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in lies, but they were still able to keep that

0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.980
<v Speaker 1>illusion going throughout this coverage of that shooting. But Saturday's

0:10:57.020 --> 0:11:00.060
<v Speaker 1>shooting was entirely different. I don't think it's a stretch

0:11:00.100 --> 0:11:02.910
<v Speaker 1>that people online have called it an execution. The victim

0:11:02.970 --> 0:11:06.650
<v Speaker 1>was legally recording law enforcement, got assaulted by federal agents,

0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.160
<v Speaker 1>then was taken to the ground and disarmed, after which

0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.580
<v Speaker 1>point he was shot repeatedly. You can make out 10

0:11:12.580 --> 0:11:14.660
<v Speaker 1>shots fired in the video of the murder, and none

0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.780
<v Speaker 1>of it can be justified. The best argument someone can

0:11:17.820 --> 0:11:21.140
<v Speaker 1>really make is that one of the officers misunderstood the

0:11:21.179 --> 0:11:24.770
<v Speaker 1>victim's gun being confiscated as the gun being wielded, but

0:11:24.990 --> 0:11:29.099
<v Speaker 1>even this argument fails. It's the most generous interpretation of

0:11:29.140 --> 0:11:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the event possible, and if that is the case, then

0:11:31.940 --> 0:11:34.780
<v Speaker 1>the agents who fired need to be fired and possibly

0:11:34.820 --> 0:11:37.460
<v Speaker 1>charged with crimes. The chain of command has to be

0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.880
<v Speaker 1>examined because this level of undisciplined violence is at least

0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.980
<v Speaker 1>partially the product of bad leadership, and pretending otherwise is

0:11:45.020 --> 0:11:48.520
<v Speaker 1>just not possible. Again, like the last time, I'm not

0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.120
<v Speaker 1>interested in arguing about this, and I don't take anyone

0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.330
<v Speaker 1>who would support this seriously. They're not sincere participants in

0:11:54.350 --> 0:11:57.740
<v Speaker 1>a debate, They're malicious or misguided agents of state power.

0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Full stop. What makes this murder different from the last

0:12:01.620 --> 0:12:04.040
<v Speaker 1>one is that the only way that the right-wing media

0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.940
<v Speaker 1>has been able to justify the shooting this time involves

0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.790
<v Speaker 1>the victim legally carrying a gun at the protest. Whether

0:12:10.850 --> 0:12:13.030
<v Speaker 1>or not you can drive a car somewhere isn't a

0:12:13.070 --> 0:12:15.990
<v Speaker 1>central issue for one political party, but whether or not

0:12:16.030 --> 0:12:17.590
<v Speaker 1>you should be able to have a gun at all

0:12:17.630 --> 0:12:21.160
<v Speaker 1>times is. The Second Amendment is central for the modern

0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.569
<v Speaker 1>right wing, and a part of it is a full

0:12:23.650 --> 0:12:27.410
<v Speaker 1>destigmatization of carrying a gun. Not only is it okay

0:12:27.450 --> 0:12:29.630
<v Speaker 1>for you to carry a gun at a protest, it's

0:12:29.850 --> 0:12:32.829
<v Speaker 1>wrong for anyone to act as if it's not. If

0:12:32.910 --> 0:12:36.010
<v Speaker 1>you feel weird about me carrying a gun, that's your problem.

0:12:36.910 --> 0:12:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Brandishing a gun and threatening someone with one is an

0:12:39.670 --> 0:12:41.979
<v Speaker 1>act that could lead to you getting shot, but it's

0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.280
<v Speaker 1>been a critical part of the right wing project to

0:12:44.300 --> 0:12:48.120
<v Speaker 1>stress the difference between carrying a gun and brandishing a gun.

0:12:49.030 --> 0:12:51.670
<v Speaker 1>But now, the only way to justify this shooting in

0:12:51.910 --> 0:12:54.309
<v Speaker 1>any way is to stress that the victim had a gun.

0:12:55.070 --> 0:12:58.830
<v Speaker 1>We've often asked ourselves how sincere Alex's Second Amendment beliefs are,

0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and I guess we're going to find out. I think

0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.080
<v Speaker 1>this is going to test that a little bit. Hmm.

0:13:05.740 --> 0:13:06.900
<v Speaker 4>I have my doubts.

0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.100
<v Speaker 1>Do you? Yep, yep, yep.

0:13:09.980 --> 0:13:12.540
<v Speaker 4>I think it's probably going to be totally fine.

0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's going to navigate these choppy waters well?

0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.720
<v Speaker 4>I think eventually you just go, well, he's our enemy,

0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.740
<v Speaker 4>and we don't care if you murder the enemy. That's

0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.040
<v Speaker 4>about as good as we're going to get out of him,

0:13:24.100 --> 0:13:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I bet.

0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.300
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I mean, we still have an episode

0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.380
<v Speaker 1>to do, but you're not far off.

0:13:29.420 --> 0:13:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Fair enough.

0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.839
<v Speaker 1>So we start off here, and Alex is doing a

0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.300
<v Speaker 1>special report in his car on Sunday before he comes

0:13:35.370 --> 0:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>into studio.

0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm reporting from Austin, Texas on this Sunday.

0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.859
<v Speaker 2>About 1130 Central. I will be live from the M4

0:13:45.059 --> 0:13:50.859
<v Speaker 2>studios tonight. Report 8 p.m. Got about three inches, four

0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.920
<v Speaker 2>inches of ice sheet. So the roads are basically empty.

0:13:54.940 --> 0:13:58.780
<v Speaker 2>I see a few cars that didn't make it off

0:13:58.820 --> 0:14:04.400
<v Speaker 2>on the sides. Again, really a 100-year storm. Lengthening much

0:14:04.420 --> 0:14:10.030
<v Speaker 2>of the United States. A lot of power lines down

0:14:10.050 --> 0:14:12.770
<v Speaker 2>north where I'm at in Austin, but not too many

0:14:12.809 --> 0:14:15.390
<v Speaker 2>power outages here. That's a good feel for all the

0:14:15.410 --> 0:14:19.530
<v Speaker 2>folks around the country. We also, of course, had the

0:14:20.980 --> 0:14:23.820
<v Speaker 2>second fatal ice shooting in just two or three weeks

0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:29.240
<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis, Minnesota, which was easy to predict, unfortunately. That's

0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.950
<v Speaker 2>why the Podesta plan from August 2020, the Democrats said,

0:14:35.730 --> 0:14:38.050
<v Speaker 2>we will block normal ice enforcement that's been going on

0:14:38.150 --> 0:14:42.810
<v Speaker 2>since ICE was set up in 2002. Remember, Obama had

0:14:42.890 --> 0:14:46.130
<v Speaker 2>four times the deportations Trump ever did. People say, well,

0:14:46.150 --> 0:14:48.330
<v Speaker 2>then why is this violence? Because nobody ever came out

0:14:49.070 --> 0:14:52.940
<v Speaker 2>and attacked them like that before. And that's the Democrat plan.

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.820
<v Speaker 1>So Alex's acting like this turn of events was easy

0:14:55.860 --> 0:14:58.260
<v Speaker 1>to predict, but he's not been saying that ICE was

0:14:58.300 --> 0:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>going to kill another citizen. He's been saying that riots

0:15:01.100 --> 0:15:02.980
<v Speaker 1>were going to break out because of the last murder

0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.260
<v Speaker 1>and that the federal agents would be the ones being killed.

0:15:05.580 --> 0:15:08.160
<v Speaker 1>there'd be a huge false flag in order to blame

0:15:08.380 --> 0:15:11.960
<v Speaker 1>ice or, uh, uh, Trump what's happening in the real world.

0:15:12.020 --> 0:15:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't match his fantasy storylines, but it doesn't really matter

0:15:15.300 --> 0:15:18.300
<v Speaker 1>because it all kind of feels the same. The Podesta

0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.550
<v Speaker 1>plan is everything and nothing at the same time. And

0:15:20.710 --> 0:15:22.670
<v Speaker 1>Alex is the only expert on it because he's making

0:15:22.710 --> 0:15:24.890
<v Speaker 1>it all up. And as long as there's chaos, it

0:15:24.930 --> 0:15:28.070
<v Speaker 1>feels like he's kind of right. He has an energy

0:15:28.110 --> 0:15:30.430
<v Speaker 1>that he feels like he doesn't want to cover this shooting.

0:15:30.650 --> 0:15:32.670
<v Speaker 1>Like he knows it's going to be embarrassing for him.

0:15:33.050 --> 0:15:34.350
<v Speaker 1>And I think he he's right.

0:15:34.790 --> 0:15:41.020
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Yeah, yeah. You are, if you are Alex Jones,

0:15:42.180 --> 0:15:48.730
<v Speaker 4>if you watch the government disarm and then execute a

0:15:48.770 --> 0:15:53.270
<v Speaker 4>man in broad daylight, you have a responsibility to be

0:15:53.670 --> 0:15:55.090
<v Speaker 4>one person or the other.

0:15:55.410 --> 0:15:57.330
<v Speaker 1>You know what I think would be interesting? If Alex

0:15:57.370 --> 0:15:59.610
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to litigate the last shot.

0:16:00.820 --> 0:16:02.660
<v Speaker 4>I was the first nine shots.

0:16:02.820 --> 0:16:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, totally justified. But that last one.

0:16:05.260 --> 0:16:07.960
<v Speaker 4>The first thing, the first thing I was thinking was like, well,

0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.780
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the seventh shot was justified. Eight, nine, 10.

0:16:11.780 --> 0:16:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. One through six.

0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Real bad.

0:16:13.620 --> 0:16:16.110
<v Speaker 4>But seven, you had to do seven. Once you get

0:16:16.170 --> 0:16:18.550
<v Speaker 4>to six, you got to do seven. That's just the math.

0:16:18.910 --> 0:16:19.130
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:16:19.270 --> 0:16:22.870
<v Speaker 1>Right. Seven is a lucky number. Yeah, that's.

0:16:23.630 --> 0:16:29.250
<v Speaker 4>Boy, it's tough. It's tough to not say that when.

0:16:30.430 --> 0:16:35.220
<v Speaker 4>There is a blatant disregard for the concept of law.

0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.440
<v Speaker 4>The idea of following law seems absurd.

0:16:40.020 --> 0:16:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yep. So, Alex, he's fine with

0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:46.620
<v Speaker 1>the last killing.

0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:46.859
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.680
<v Speaker 1>The last one, that lady in the car, that was fine.

0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.580
<v Speaker 1>This one seems a little bit iffy, but it's also

0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.330
<v Speaker 1>probably okay. Iffy? It's probably all right. All right. They

0:16:58.350 --> 0:16:58.750
<v Speaker 1>meant well.

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Then this woman supposedly was just leaving her house, and

0:17:01.850 --> 0:17:04.190
<v Speaker 2>of course that wasn't true. She traveled five hours or

0:17:04.210 --> 0:17:08.510
<v Speaker 2>whatever to come there with her wife and confront everybody,

0:17:08.530 --> 0:17:12.710
<v Speaker 2>block cars, and then ran the agent. That was completely justified.

0:17:13.630 --> 0:17:15.250
<v Speaker 2>In this one, I don't think it was on purpose,

0:17:15.270 --> 0:17:19.110
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it's a homicide, because the man

0:17:19.170 --> 0:17:21.010
<v Speaker 2>did have a gun on him. Now that we've gotten

0:17:21.050 --> 0:17:24.780
<v Speaker 2>better HD shots of it than we had yesterday, people

0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.140
<v Speaker 2>turned over to CNN footage that they got really close.

0:17:27.990 --> 0:17:29.190
<v Speaker 2>You can see the other shots, a woman that was

0:17:29.210 --> 0:17:31.060
<v Speaker 2>only like 20 feet away with a cell phone.

0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.660
<v Speaker 3>Well, now that footage has come out. It's on CNN's website.

0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll be playing it.

0:17:35.500 --> 0:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Tonight on my show. It's very crisp, very clear. I

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:39.740
<v Speaker 2>was able to slow it down, and you can see

0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that they're all wrestling around. One agent sees that he

0:17:43.540 --> 0:17:47.460
<v Speaker 2>has a gun in his waistband, you know, the small

0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.909
<v Speaker 2>of his back, and says, gun.

0:17:50.690 --> 0:17:51.310
<v Speaker 3>He grabs it.

0:17:51.970 --> 0:17:54.210
<v Speaker 1>Alex is trying to come off a little bit more

0:17:54.310 --> 0:17:57.770
<v Speaker 1>moderate in his response here. The last murder was totally cool,

0:17:57.790 --> 0:18:00.889
<v Speaker 1>but this one probably wasn't intentional. There's some stuff that

0:18:00.950 --> 0:18:03.409
<v Speaker 1>looks bad, but ultimately the audience is just going to

0:18:03.450 --> 0:18:06.409
<v Speaker 1>have to accept it. Alex is saying that it wasn't

0:18:06.470 --> 0:18:09.570
<v Speaker 1>homicide by the agents because the victim had a gun.

0:18:10.290 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Really let that soak in. Like, I'm going to play

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 1>this again. Just bathe in this.

0:18:14.460 --> 0:18:17.020
<v Speaker 2>In this one, I don't think it was on purpose.

0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.699
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a homicide because, you know, the

0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 2>man did have a gun on him.

0:18:22.210 --> 0:18:25.550
<v Speaker 1>You cannot have a philosophical belief in the individual right

0:18:25.570 --> 0:18:27.770
<v Speaker 1>to own and bear arms and say something like that.

0:18:28.330 --> 0:18:30.369
<v Speaker 1>The fact that Alex can engage with a story like

0:18:30.410 --> 0:18:33.169
<v Speaker 1>this reveals that even his belief in the second amendment

0:18:33.230 --> 0:18:36.970
<v Speaker 1>is bullshit. The issue that this highlights is that fundamentally

0:18:37.150 --> 0:18:40.420
<v Speaker 1>Alex's beliefs have always been surface level shit. His dad

0:18:40.500 --> 0:18:42.700
<v Speaker 1>fucked his head up with all this John Birch society

0:18:42.740 --> 0:18:44.540
<v Speaker 1>stuff when he was a kid. And he's gone on

0:18:44.580 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to base most of his life around one of the

0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.260
<v Speaker 1>stupidest books ever written. None dare call it conspiracy.

0:18:49.300 --> 0:18:49.460
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.260
<v Speaker 1>As his career has progressed, he's just been used by

0:18:53.300 --> 0:18:58.050
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of attention-seeking dipshit opportunists, and a lot of

0:18:58.090 --> 0:19:01.990
<v Speaker 1>those old standard anti-communist right-wing beliefs have gotten eroded by

0:19:02.270 --> 0:19:05.570
<v Speaker 1>hot internet trends and dumb bullshit he sees on social media.

0:19:06.090 --> 0:19:09.270
<v Speaker 1>But none of it really matters to him. He didn't

0:19:09.310 --> 0:19:12.260
<v Speaker 1>understand or care about the principle of gun ownership and

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.820
<v Speaker 1>what it means to believe strongly in a right to carry.

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.950
<v Speaker 1>He just knew all the language. He memorized the catchphrases

0:19:19.010 --> 0:19:21.250
<v Speaker 1>and talking points of the extreme right, and he hung

0:19:21.290 --> 0:19:24.629
<v Speaker 1>out with fanatics like Larry Pratt, and that was good enough.

0:19:25.330 --> 0:19:27.969
<v Speaker 1>He was a Second Amendment guy because he acted like one,

0:19:28.090 --> 0:19:31.250
<v Speaker 1>and that's all that mattered. In the present day, Alex

0:19:31.310 --> 0:19:34.230
<v Speaker 1>is doing what he's doing partly because he's been entirely

0:19:34.290 --> 0:19:36.850
<v Speaker 1>seduced and captured by feeling like he's close to actual

0:19:36.890 --> 0:19:40.409
<v Speaker 1>state power, but also partly because he doesn't understand the

0:19:40.490 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 1>ideas he talks about on his show in any depth.

0:19:43.900 --> 0:19:46.350
<v Speaker 1>He can say the words and do the performance about

0:19:46.390 --> 0:19:48.609
<v Speaker 1>how gun rights are sacred when there's a mass shooting,

0:19:48.890 --> 0:19:51.500
<v Speaker 1>and he needs to argue against it. gun registration, but

0:19:51.540 --> 0:19:53.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care about this shit as much as he

0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>pretends to, and it's obvious in a moment like this.

0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.020
<v Speaker 1>You can't say that this isn't a homicide because the

0:19:59.060 --> 0:20:03.350
<v Speaker 1>guy had a gun. You're Alex Jones. Nope. The fuck, man. Nope.

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.850
<v Speaker 4>Now, you have to defend fucking OKC. You have to

0:20:08.910 --> 0:20:12.410
<v Speaker 4>defend OKC because if the government drives a tank... under

0:20:12.430 --> 0:20:14.409
<v Speaker 4>your land, I don't care what you're doing. If the

0:20:14.450 --> 0:20:17.110
<v Speaker 4>government drives a tank onto the land of somebody who's

0:20:17.290 --> 0:20:22.410
<v Speaker 4>actively selling weapons, I don't care. The government can't do that,

0:20:22.450 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 4>and so there must be retribution. You can't say, well,

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean, sure, the government murdered him, but they were

0:20:29.100 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 4>selling guns. That's what other people would say. That's why

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.140
<v Speaker 4>people said Alex Jones was crazy, is because he said,

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 4>oh no, you can't murder all those people just for

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:39.840
<v Speaker 4>having guns.

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:41.220
<v Speaker 1>But this guy had a gun.

0:20:41.300 --> 0:20:42.220
<v Speaker 4>But this guy had a gun.

0:20:42.380 --> 0:20:44.350
<v Speaker 1>This guy had a gun. He was at a protest.

0:20:44.550 --> 0:20:46.889
<v Speaker 4>I mean, hey, if one guy has a gun at

0:20:47.210 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 4>a protest, then sure, the government should be allowed to

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.220
<v Speaker 4>detain them, disarm them, and then murder them.

0:20:52.660 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And look, we're not all going to be thrilled about it,

0:20:54.859 --> 0:20:55.550
<v Speaker 1>but let's not get mad.

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.340
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the government seems fairly thrilled about it. I

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 4>do appreciate the idea that people are acting as though

0:21:03.859 --> 0:21:05.580
<v Speaker 4>this wasn't the goal.

0:21:06.619 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.510
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, this is a side effect. No, come on.

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>It can be both.

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.920
<v Speaker 4>Come on. You're literally terrorized right now? Surprise. Who could

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.740
<v Speaker 4>have guessed that you would be terrorized by this terrorist organization?

0:21:20.060 --> 0:21:21.740
<v Speaker 1>So look, this shit's not good.

0:21:21.940 --> 0:21:22.100
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:23.419
<v Speaker 1>The guy was probably innocent.

0:21:23.500 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:21:24.180 --> 0:21:27.860
<v Speaker 1>But come on. Stressful situation out there on those streets.

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:28.419
<v Speaker 3>What are you going to do?

0:21:28.690 --> 0:21:31.050
<v Speaker 2>Now that CNN got footage from a lady that I

0:21:31.070 --> 0:21:33.250
<v Speaker 2>guess didn't post it online, but gave it to CNN

0:21:34.450 --> 0:21:38.050
<v Speaker 2>this morning, it's HD, and you can see it all happen.

0:21:38.490 --> 0:21:43.630
<v Speaker 3>So they're all hustling around with him, dogpiling him, doesn't

0:21:43.650 --> 0:21:44.580
<v Speaker 3>look like he's resisting some.

0:21:48.140 --> 0:21:51.619
<v Speaker 2>And then you see the officer behind him saying, gun,

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.540
<v Speaker 2>and grabs the gun out from the small of his back,

0:21:54.740 --> 0:21:59.379
<v Speaker 2>there between his belt, the small of his back. And

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.140
<v Speaker 2>then when you watch the footage, you can see that

0:22:03.100 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 2>what looks like a tear gas, not tear gas, pepper spray,

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 2>big bottle falls from one of the scuffling ICE officers.

0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:15.330
<v Speaker 2>The man's cell phone and a clip bounces out. In fact,

0:22:15.350 --> 0:22:17.750
<v Speaker 2>the clip had already bounced out about.

0:22:17.070 --> 0:22:17.729
<v Speaker 3>Two seconds before.

0:22:18.490 --> 0:22:20.730
<v Speaker 2>And so they think that's a gun because they already

0:22:20.750 --> 0:22:23.330
<v Speaker 2>heard gun. And when they hear gun, which means a gun,

0:22:23.369 --> 0:22:24.810
<v Speaker 2>that means even if they've gotten the gun, which they

0:22:24.850 --> 0:22:27.369
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, they heard gun, it means he can have

0:22:27.410 --> 0:22:30.330
<v Speaker 2>another gun. So they draw, they all draw, they all

0:22:30.350 --> 0:22:33.450
<v Speaker 2>back up and draw, and then that stuff starts bouncing around,

0:22:33.510 --> 0:22:36.850
<v Speaker 2>and they think it's a gun because the guy starts

0:22:37.090 --> 0:22:39.490
<v Speaker 2>getting up on his knees as all that stuff bounces out,

0:22:39.630 --> 0:22:41.109
<v Speaker 2>and in the stress of the moment, they killed him.

0:22:41.390 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think the guy was innocent. I'm sorry that

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:50.939
<v Speaker 2>he's dead. But those are those really high-stakes situations where

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:51.580
<v Speaker 2>they're carrying out.

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 4>What were the stakes?

0:22:53.140 --> 0:22:56.140
<v Speaker 2>With their administrative warrants, with their court orders, out there

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.050
<v Speaker 2>doing that, And everybody's really on edge.

0:22:58.670 --> 0:23:01.510
<v Speaker 1>Alex is in really choppy water here because he's trying

0:23:01.550 --> 0:23:04.669
<v Speaker 1>to slow play this. He knows his career and audience

0:23:04.730 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>are based in gun rights absolutism, so they aren't going

0:23:07.780 --> 0:23:09.820
<v Speaker 1>to love the argument that this guy deserved to be

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>killed because he had a gun that he was carrying legally. Simultaneously,

0:23:14.020 --> 0:23:16.260
<v Speaker 1>all of the people that Alex likes in government are

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.619
<v Speaker 1>tripping over their own feet to smear the victim as

0:23:18.660 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a terrorist. Stephen Miller posted this to describe the situation. Quote,

0:23:23.500 --> 0:23:28.050
<v Speaker 1>a would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement. Assistant

0:23:28.090 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security Secretariat Tricia McLaughlin used the fact that the

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.980
<v Speaker 1>victim had a gun to assert, quote, this looks like

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.220
<v Speaker 1>a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:43.260
<v Speaker 1>and massacre law enforcement. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said, quote,

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.780
<v Speaker 1>fearing for his life and the lives of his fellow

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots. This looks

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene

0:23:52.420 --> 0:23:56.070
<v Speaker 1>to inflict maximum damage on individuals and kill law enforcement.

0:23:56.830 --> 0:24:01.250
<v Speaker 1>Alex's own employee and dipshit friend Nick Sortor incorrectly identified

0:24:01.290 --> 0:24:04.170
<v Speaker 1>the victim as an illegal alien and said he was, quote,

0:24:04.390 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 1>armed with a gun and attempted to pull it on

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>agents as he was being apprehended. This is an information war,

0:24:11.859 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and Alex's side has made it very clear what their

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.980
<v Speaker 1>narrative is supposed to be here. It's now his choice

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.030
<v Speaker 1>to eat this shit like his job requires or have

0:24:21.070 --> 0:24:23.770
<v Speaker 1>a backbone and call the government and his own employee

0:24:23.830 --> 0:24:26.669
<v Speaker 1>gun grabbers. Those are the only two options.

0:24:26.790 --> 0:24:26.930
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:24:27.530 --> 0:24:29.550
<v Speaker 1>And he's trying to slow play somewhere in the middle,

0:24:29.590 --> 0:24:30.690
<v Speaker 1>and it looks stupid.

0:24:31.070 --> 0:24:31.370
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:24:31.590 --> 0:24:32.409
<v Speaker 1>Seems like an asshole.

0:24:32.590 --> 0:24:36.780
<v Speaker 4>This is forced to everybody's hand. Either ignore it or don't,

0:24:36.820 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 4>but there's no not choosing a side, you know? You

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 4>can ignore it, which, what you gonna do? But if

0:24:46.260 --> 0:24:47.379
<v Speaker 4>you see it, you gotta choose.

0:24:47.460 --> 0:24:52.850
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that, I don't wanna paint that

0:24:52.910 --> 0:24:55.190
<v Speaker 1>on everybody, but I do wanna paint that on Alex.

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.780
<v Speaker 1>I want to double down on that in terms of Alex.

0:24:59.310 --> 0:25:00.869
<v Speaker 1>This is a moment he cannot ignore.

0:25:01.350 --> 0:25:05.700
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah. He should actually be out there like, hey,

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.700
<v Speaker 4>We need to find out where the fucking ICE keeps

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 4>their weapons and burn that depot.

0:25:12.010 --> 0:25:12.609
<v Speaker 1>To the ground.

0:25:12.660 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.669
<v Speaker 4>If you don't want to get shot, then we got

0:25:15.690 --> 0:25:17.850
<v Speaker 4>to get rid of their guns. We have to take

0:25:17.990 --> 0:25:20.369
<v Speaker 4>their guns. And since we can't carry them, we have

0:25:20.390 --> 0:25:22.310
<v Speaker 4>to burn that place to the fucking ground.

0:25:22.369 --> 0:25:25.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He should be like trying to lure Bovino in

0:25:25.810 --> 0:25:27.970
<v Speaker 1>for an interview and then hold him in a cell

0:25:28.060 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>or something. Citizens arrest.

0:25:29.340 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think we should probably burn those depots

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 4>to the ground.

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.060
<v Speaker 1>Look, there's a lot of people who are saying a

0:25:34.100 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting things. And one of them is Alex.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.340
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, hey, man, just don't carry guns. It's

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:42.420
<v Speaker 1>too dangerous.

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 3>You've already had all these ice agents shot up and

0:25:44.820 --> 0:25:45.470
<v Speaker 3>all the rest of it.

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:51.270
<v Speaker 2>It is extremely crazy and extremely dangerous to be armed

0:25:51.330 --> 0:25:53.369
<v Speaker 2>out there. I'm all for the Second Amendment. You guys

0:25:53.390 --> 0:25:55.050
<v Speaker 2>got rights to be out there with your guns. OK,

0:25:55.690 --> 0:25:57.449
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it's going to happen. I go to

0:25:57.470 --> 0:26:00.730
<v Speaker 2>demonstrations and stuff. I don't take guns just because it

0:26:00.910 --> 0:26:05.090
<v Speaker 2>makes me more of a target. So Alex has given

0:26:05.170 --> 0:26:07.030
<v Speaker 2>in to fear and now no longer believes that citizens

0:26:07.050 --> 0:26:10.670
<v Speaker 2>should express their God-given right to carry a gun because

0:26:11.430 --> 0:26:15.190
<v Speaker 2>it's too likely to make federal agents see you as

0:26:15.260 --> 0:26:16.469
<v Speaker 2>a target and they'll probably kill you.

0:26:27.890 --> 0:26:30.690
<v Speaker 1>If federal agents think you're a target because you're exercising

0:26:30.710 --> 0:26:33.340
<v Speaker 1>your rights, then your rights are under attack, and Alex

0:26:33.540 --> 0:26:36.820
<v Speaker 1>fucking knows that. His career is based on seeing a

0:26:36.859 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>situation like this and saying that people should walk around

0:26:39.619 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>with more guns. His beliefs are based on not changing

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.070
<v Speaker 1>how you exercise your rights because the state tells you to.

0:26:47.570 --> 0:26:49.830
<v Speaker 1>When there's a conflict between your rights and what the

0:26:49.869 --> 0:26:53.170
<v Speaker 1>state asks of you, you're in a tyranny. I think

0:26:53.190 --> 0:26:55.900
<v Speaker 1>it's also important to stress that Alex understands that what

0:26:55.940 --> 0:26:58.380
<v Speaker 1>he's saying is a betrayal of his gun rights position.

0:26:58.700 --> 0:27:00.620
<v Speaker 1>And that's why he's doing this so softly.

0:27:00.700 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:01.020 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to mask the point of what he's saying

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>behind this facade of empathy. And like, oh, my God,

0:27:08.540 --> 0:27:10.650
<v Speaker 1>isn't this such a shock, such a tragedy?

0:27:11.090 --> 0:27:13.710
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the funny part about it, the the irony

0:27:13.790 --> 0:27:16.590
<v Speaker 4>of it is hearing it out of his mouth makes

0:27:16.650 --> 0:27:19.449
<v Speaker 4>it so clear that everybody who's ever been like, I'm

0:27:19.530 --> 0:27:21.570
<v Speaker 4>all for the Second Amendment is full of shit.

0:27:22.350 --> 0:27:22.629
<v Speaker 3>You're not.

0:27:23.260 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 4>You're not because it's fucking crazy.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:26.420
<v Speaker 1>You just don't want your side.

0:27:26.619 --> 0:27:27.060
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

0:27:27.100 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 4>You don't want to be like, hey, I'm all for

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 4>the Second Amendment, but fuck off. It's ridiculous.

0:27:32.420 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:32.619 --> 0:27:33.030
<v Speaker 4>Stop it.

0:27:33.580 --> 0:27:33.820
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:27:34.260 --> 0:27:38.310
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's it's pretty ludicrous for Alex to just

0:27:38.970 --> 0:27:44.530
<v Speaker 1>have this position of like. It's too dangerous. Shouldn't keep guns.

0:27:44.690 --> 0:27:48.189
<v Speaker 1>The state might treat you badly if you have guns.

0:27:48.540 --> 0:27:51.340
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, it is like this guy has set

0:27:51.380 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>himself up, has talked such a big game to find

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:00.050
<v Speaker 4>his moment where he is probably positioned to lead a

0:28:00.650 --> 0:28:04.150
<v Speaker 4>lot of people with a lot of dangerous ideas into uh,

0:28:04.210 --> 0:28:07.630
<v Speaker 4>to do some good. And yet somehow here we are

0:28:07.710 --> 0:28:10.150
<v Speaker 4>with him supporting the fucking Nazis.

0:28:10.340 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the truth. Uh, the tree of Liberty needs

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.940
<v Speaker 1>to be watered with the blood of Patriots and tyrants,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.899
<v Speaker 1>not cowards. Well, Alex is free from watering duty.

0:28:21.300 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.890
<v Speaker 1>Don't think he has to worry about, uh, ever running

0:28:24.950 --> 0:28:25.590
<v Speaker 1>into that tree.

0:28:26.070 --> 0:28:27.010
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised.

0:28:27.890 --> 0:28:31.149
<v Speaker 1>So I think that Alex is like, hey, man, no

0:28:31.290 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>one's going to try these cops. They're fine. Everything's cool.

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.340
<v Speaker 1>Feels bad, though. I mean, it looks bad. It seems

0:28:38.380 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like shit.

0:28:38.940 --> 0:28:39.420
<v Speaker 4>It looks bad.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.020
<v Speaker 2>They will try to have Soros judges indict this ICE agent.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't see that going anywhere. Looks like three of

0:28:47.980 --> 0:28:51.380
<v Speaker 2>them fired into the man once they heard gun, gun

0:28:51.420 --> 0:28:51.820
<v Speaker 2>and all that.

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>And it's just a tragic situation.

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.420
<v Speaker 2>And it can happen to anybody that goes out and

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>gets the middle of the stuff.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:03.660
<v Speaker 3>So I'm sad for the man. And I'm sad for

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:04.220
<v Speaker 3>his family.

0:29:04.300 --> 0:29:07.610
<v Speaker 2>But all the tens of thousands killed by illegal aliens, murdered, raped,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.950
<v Speaker 2>millions dead from fentanyl, the left never humanizes that.

0:29:10.970 --> 0:29:11.830
<v Speaker 3>They never talk about that.

0:29:12.370 --> 0:29:15.110
<v Speaker 1>I think that Alex believes that he seems empathetic when

0:29:15.150 --> 0:29:16.850
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to do this I feel bad for the

0:29:16.890 --> 0:29:19.770
<v Speaker 1>victim's family stuff, but it makes him come off worse.

0:29:20.670 --> 0:29:24.870
<v Speaker 1>Gun rights is a cold-hearted business for Alex. Defending your

0:29:24.890 --> 0:29:27.010
<v Speaker 1>right to defend yourself has meant that he's had to

0:29:27.090 --> 0:29:30.820
<v Speaker 1>do some horrible shit in public and re-victimize a ton

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of grieving people. He's had to defame and disparage people

0:29:34.300 --> 0:29:37.730
<v Speaker 1>who were just living their lives before tragedy struck, and sure,

0:29:37.930 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it comes off bad to treat people like that. but

0:29:40.500 --> 0:29:42.700
<v Speaker 1>it was what Alex had to do to make sure

0:29:42.740 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that the gun grabbers didn't grab your guns if Soros

0:29:46.820 --> 0:29:48.940
<v Speaker 1>lawyers and judges are the only ones who are going

0:29:48.980 --> 0:29:51.310
<v Speaker 1>to try to indict these agents for murdering a citizen

0:29:51.350 --> 0:29:53.290
<v Speaker 1>just because he had a gun and that's not going

0:29:53.310 --> 0:29:55.810
<v Speaker 1>to work then doesn't it kind of seem like federal

0:29:55.870 --> 0:29:58.270
<v Speaker 1>agents could just kill anyone they see with a gun

0:29:59.150 --> 0:30:01.570
<v Speaker 1>If what Alex is saying is taken seriously, then you

0:30:01.610 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have a right to carry a gun. Your God-given

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.020
<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment rights are conditional, and you can only exercise

0:30:08.060 --> 0:30:10.580
<v Speaker 1>them when the government tells you that you can. And

0:30:10.620 --> 0:30:12.420
<v Speaker 1>they don't even need to tell you you can or can't.

0:30:12.460 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>They will just kill you.

0:30:13.740 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 4>That is a good way of telling you that you can.

0:30:15.780 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty final.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:17.340
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>The empathy is not real. It's an instinctual performance Alex

0:30:21.780 --> 0:30:23.830
<v Speaker 1>is putting on to mask the fact that he's condoning

0:30:23.870 --> 0:30:27.050
<v Speaker 1>state murder. Feeling empathy for the victim is a normal

0:30:27.110 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and relatable thing to express... So he's hoping that distracts

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.940
<v Speaker 1>from the blatant bootlicking that he's doing and make people

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.060
<v Speaker 1>not realize, like, who are you?

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:38.130 --> 0:30:41.570
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I get the bloodthirsty people. They make

0:30:41.630 --> 0:30:43.850
<v Speaker 4>sense to me. You know, I get when Stephen Miller's like,

0:30:43.890 --> 0:30:46.070
<v Speaker 4>that guy's a terrorist, murder him. Yeah, you want to

0:30:46.090 --> 0:30:46.590
<v Speaker 4>murder people.

0:30:46.630 --> 0:30:47.270
<v Speaker 3>You're a murderer.

0:30:47.390 --> 0:30:48.970
<v Speaker 4>That's fine. I get that.

0:30:49.070 --> 0:30:50.540
<v Speaker 1>There's character consistency there.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:55.460
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is just, this is pathetic. That is the thing.

0:30:55.500 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 4>It's not even that it's like wrong or bad or anything.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.780
<v Speaker 4>It is like a worm thing. It is like watching

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.780
<v Speaker 4>a fucking snail try and run. This is disgusting.

0:31:07.980 --> 0:31:08.239
<v Speaker 3>It is.

0:31:08.460 --> 0:31:09.580
<v Speaker 4>It is fucking sad.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.810
<v Speaker 1>Well, and the thing that it sucks about watching a

0:31:12.850 --> 0:31:17.570
<v Speaker 1>snail run is that like you realize that like, ah,

0:31:18.170 --> 0:31:19.590
<v Speaker 1>this has always been the case.

0:31:19.810 --> 0:31:20.070
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:20.430 --> 0:31:24.450
<v Speaker 1>Like he would have been willing to give up Second

0:31:24.470 --> 0:31:26.970
<v Speaker 1>Amendment shit. Yeah. At any point.

0:31:27.190 --> 0:31:27.410
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:27.510 --> 0:31:30.270
<v Speaker 1>If the more important things to him were catered to,

0:31:30.310 --> 0:31:34.940
<v Speaker 1>which are. His feelings of white identity, his want and

0:31:34.980 --> 0:31:39.510
<v Speaker 1>desire to oppress the LGBTQ community, kicking out immigrants. Like

0:31:39.610 --> 0:31:42.090
<v Speaker 1>if those things were catered to, he never would have

0:31:42.150 --> 0:31:44.900
<v Speaker 1>felt the need to protect himself from an oppressive government.

0:31:45.100 --> 0:31:45.219
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:46.260 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 4>No, the honest thing is the honest truth of Alex

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 4>right now is that if he had any integrity, whenever

0:31:52.420 --> 0:31:54.620
<v Speaker 4>he realized this is the government's line, he should have

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 4>fucking lit himself on fire outside of his studio. Like

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 4>that is that's the level of protest. He should be

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.550
<v Speaker 4>killing himself right now. Like that is what should be

0:32:04.590 --> 0:32:08.410
<v Speaker 4>happening because two, that's your choice. Your choice is either

0:32:08.470 --> 0:32:10.810
<v Speaker 4>to die in one way or die in another. I

0:32:10.850 --> 0:32:13.410
<v Speaker 4>can die in real life and not have to fucking, uh,

0:32:14.750 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 4>suck the feet of goddamn Donald Trump anymore. Or I

0:32:18.580 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 4>can kill myself in another way and say, this is fine.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:23.660
<v Speaker 4>Both of them are death.

0:32:24.140 --> 0:32:26.260
<v Speaker 1>Sure. I mean, I think he'll probably choose the one

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:26.900
<v Speaker 1>that pays better.

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Probably every time.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>So, um, Hey, look, man, uh, So Oscar buzz going around,

0:32:35.700 --> 0:32:38.620
<v Speaker 1>you know? Love it. We got Sinners, got a bunch

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:39.020
<v Speaker 1>of noms.

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be great.

0:32:40.100 --> 0:32:43.380
<v Speaker 1>One battle and after another. And I think that Alex

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.850
<v Speaker 1>saw the Oscar noms.

0:32:45.010 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:45.460 --> 0:32:46.890
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, maybe I should get around to

0:32:46.950 --> 0:32:48.630
<v Speaker 1>seeing that movie that I keep talking about.

0:32:48.850 --> 0:32:49.010
<v Speaker 2>Odd.

0:32:49.130 --> 0:32:52.270
<v Speaker 1>So the night before, Alex finally watched one battle after another.

0:32:52.290 --> 0:32:53.650
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought he watched Wicked for good.

0:32:53.790 --> 0:32:54.290
<v Speaker 1>Nope. Nope.

0:32:54.790 --> 0:32:57.070
<v Speaker 2>Do we capitulate and just abandon all these blue cities?

0:32:57.170 --> 0:33:00.420
<v Speaker 2>Because that's the plan. Start with not working with ice.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.209
<v Speaker 2>big sanctuary cities, blocking feds getting any illegal aliens, including

0:33:05.250 --> 0:33:08.510
<v Speaker 2>hard criminals, making all these Hollywood movies where they're all innocent,

0:33:08.530 --> 0:33:11.310
<v Speaker 2>they're all angels, like one bad lad for another, and

0:33:11.330 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 2>all the ice people are secretly white supremacists, you know,

0:33:13.630 --> 0:33:14.060
<v Speaker 2>in the St.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:21.540
<v Speaker 3>Nick, uh, uh, society or whatever, it's made up, total crap, um,

0:33:22.820 --> 0:33:24.580
<v Speaker 3>the St. Nick Adventurers Society and.

0:33:24.540 --> 0:33:28.209
<v Speaker 2>All this stuff, it's just like the same people that

0:33:28.250 --> 0:33:31.670
<v Speaker 2>put out machete kills where Don Johnson's shooting pregnant Hispanic

0:33:31.690 --> 0:33:34.590
<v Speaker 2>women at the border. Where are the gringos killing Hispanics

0:33:34.610 --> 0:33:36.250
<v Speaker 2>at the border? No, it's all 80% of the women

0:33:36.270 --> 0:33:39.350
<v Speaker 2>get raped by the coyotes on the Mexican side. But

0:33:39.390 --> 0:33:46.250
<v Speaker 2>you don't see machete kills and Richard Rodriguez put that out.

0:33:46.270 --> 0:33:49.670
<v Speaker 2>And Obama was involved getting those done. It's all just

0:33:49.710 --> 0:33:52.670
<v Speaker 2>the same shit. And I finally watched, because I'd read

0:33:52.710 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the transcript, I'd read the script of it, but I

0:33:54.670 --> 0:33:57.150
<v Speaker 2>hadn't watched one battle after another, and I watched it

0:33:57.190 --> 0:34:00.130
<v Speaker 2>last night, and it was just like, all scripted for

0:34:00.170 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>this timing, all ready, just like Civil War last year,

0:34:02.300 --> 0:34:04.900
<v Speaker 2>the election, and it's all their wet dream, it's all.

0:34:04.860 --> 0:34:06.100
<v Speaker 3>What they want, it's in the Podesta plan.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.820
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Alex read the script. Sure.

0:34:09.660 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Dumb dick.

0:34:10.380 --> 0:34:11.100
<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.700
<v Speaker 1>That clip is fucking damning. Alex straight up said that

0:34:14.739 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>until the night before this, January 24th, he hadn't even

0:34:18.460 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>seen one battle after another. All the shit that he's

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.180
<v Speaker 1>made up about it and how it's a Podesta plan,

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>all of that came from a guy who'd only seen

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.780
<v Speaker 1>the trailer and heard his racist friends on Twitter complain

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>about the trailer.

0:34:30.540 --> 0:34:30.660
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.029
<v Speaker 1>His story, without having seen the movie, is that it

0:34:34.070 --> 0:34:38.310
<v Speaker 1>glamorizes Antifa-style violence against ICE facilities, and now that he's

0:34:38.350 --> 0:34:41.690
<v Speaker 1>seen it, he can't possibly hold the same position because

0:34:41.790 --> 0:34:43.950
<v Speaker 1>But he also can't change his talking points.

0:34:43.969 --> 0:34:44.670
<v Speaker 3>That's a problem.

0:34:45.010 --> 0:34:48.930
<v Speaker 1>He's trapped in his previewing review, which is kind of funny,

0:34:49.310 --> 0:34:52.969
<v Speaker 1>but also pathetic. Yeah. I can't really stress how embarrassing

0:34:53.010 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>this should be for someone to say. He's been on

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.259
<v Speaker 1>air yelling about how this movie is part of the

0:34:57.300 --> 0:35:00.419
<v Speaker 1>globalist plot to foment domestic terrorism as a plot against

0:35:00.460 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the white man. And he didn't even bother to watch

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it before preaching that shit. He used his feelings about

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:10.049
<v Speaker 1>the movie to justify the killing of U.S. citizens, and

0:35:10.090 --> 0:35:15.190
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't even seen it. That's crazy. It's embarrassing to

0:35:15.250 --> 0:35:18.910
<v Speaker 1>imagine someone watching him and hearing something like that and

0:35:18.930 --> 0:35:21.850
<v Speaker 1>being like, this guy is good. He does his work.

0:35:21.930 --> 0:35:24.190
<v Speaker 1>He's a good source of information.

0:35:24.510 --> 0:35:26.509
<v Speaker 4>I would feel pretty embarrassed, too, if somebody was like,

0:35:26.550 --> 0:35:28.609
<v Speaker 4>the Sick Nick Club? That's not even real.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:29.910
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:31.339
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, buddy.

0:35:31.820 --> 0:35:34.950
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man. You're almost there. You're going to get it.

0:35:35.020 --> 0:35:36.739
<v Speaker 4>You're going to get there one day. You're going to

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.620
<v Speaker 4>get that none of it was real. The whole thing,

0:35:39.660 --> 0:35:40.470
<v Speaker 4>it's a make-em-up.

0:35:40.860 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 3>What? Yep.

0:35:41.930 --> 0:35:43.110
<v Speaker 4>It's a big old make-em-ups.

0:35:43.410 --> 0:35:45.930
<v Speaker 1>Not in the script. I read the script.

0:35:46.730 --> 0:35:49.109
<v Speaker 4>Where did you get the script? I was listening to that,

0:35:49.370 --> 0:35:54.589
<v Speaker 4>and I realized something. I don't need another side to exist. Like,

0:35:54.630 --> 0:36:00.500
<v Speaker 4>I don't need people to exist to, like, change my

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 4>opinion on things. Like, that's a murder. I don't care

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 4>who exists. I don't care if any Democrats or Republicans,

0:36:08.100 --> 0:36:10.460
<v Speaker 4>you can all go get fucked. That's a murder. All

0:36:10.500 --> 0:36:12.470
<v Speaker 4>of you can go get fucked. I don't need anybody else.

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:18.870
<v Speaker 4>For him, though, he needs Democrats. He needs Obama. Please

0:36:18.989 --> 0:36:22.649
<v Speaker 4>absolve me of responsibility. Make it so I never have

0:36:22.690 --> 0:36:24.310
<v Speaker 4>to eat my fucking principles.

0:36:24.489 --> 0:36:27.930
<v Speaker 1>It's disgusting. I think that's something that we've identified over

0:36:27.969 --> 0:36:30.630
<v Speaker 1>and over again, is that Alex exists in a petulant

0:36:30.750 --> 0:36:35.830
<v Speaker 1>state of oppositional defiance. He can only be understood and

0:36:35.930 --> 0:36:40.010
<v Speaker 1>understand himself through what he is to his imagined enemy

0:36:40.090 --> 0:36:44.870
<v Speaker 1>yeah and like that's kind of sad and when it's

0:36:44.930 --> 0:36:48.390
<v Speaker 1>like the enemy is revealing their plans to me through

0:36:48.450 --> 0:36:51.310
<v Speaker 1>movies now and you don't even watch the movies you

0:36:51.350 --> 0:36:54.870
<v Speaker 1>don't even take your own psychosis seriously nah it's pathetic.

0:36:54.570 --> 0:36:58.190
<v Speaker 4>It's lazy psychosis yes it's boring yeah yeah it's the

0:36:58.250 --> 0:37:03.220
<v Speaker 4>mark of somebody who's like I think maybe.

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Not as crazy as they want to look. Maybe one

0:37:08.580 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of the only ways he can seem interesting.

0:37:11.140 --> 0:37:15.460
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if the Joker just had a sustainable theft model

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 4>of mid-tier banks from city to city, never staying anywhere

0:37:19.500 --> 0:37:23.900
<v Speaker 4>too long, not really causing chaos so much as living fine.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Alex is kind of like the Joker if he was like,

0:37:26.940 --> 0:37:28.959
<v Speaker 1>What if I burned a big pile of money? Think

0:37:29.100 --> 0:37:30.299
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.050
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't that be crazy? Wouldn't that be crazy?

0:37:32.070 --> 0:37:33.090
<v Speaker 1>And then never got around to it.

0:37:33.090 --> 0:37:35.870
<v Speaker 4>But me changing things by saying that is what this

0:37:35.930 --> 0:37:37.770
<v Speaker 4>is really about. I'm going to take my pile of money.

0:37:37.810 --> 0:37:39.129
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will take that money.

0:37:39.150 --> 0:37:39.950
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to burn that money.

0:37:40.050 --> 0:37:40.610
<v Speaker 4>I will take that money.

0:37:40.630 --> 0:37:41.070
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:37:41.130 --> 0:37:42.190
<v Speaker 4>That is ridiculous.

0:37:42.550 --> 0:37:44.529
<v Speaker 1>So look, ICE didn't want to do it. They didn't

0:37:44.550 --> 0:37:45.410
<v Speaker 1>want to do this. They did.

0:37:45.530 --> 0:37:46.350
<v Speaker 4>They really did.

0:37:46.410 --> 0:37:47.370
<v Speaker 1>No, because you got to think about it.

0:37:47.370 --> 0:37:50.550
<v Speaker 4>No, they murdered that guy out of desire.

0:37:50.730 --> 0:37:53.150
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're not taking into account the paperwork.

0:37:54.250 --> 0:37:56.830
<v Speaker 2>But, again, my prayers go out to ICE, the American people,

0:37:56.910 --> 0:38:01.250
<v Speaker 2>and to this fellow's family. And with the left saying,

0:38:01.270 --> 0:38:04.270
<v Speaker 2>go out there with guns. And the stuff started happening

0:38:04.310 --> 0:38:06.890
<v Speaker 2>in confusion. Clearly, they didn't want to kill him. They

0:38:06.910 --> 0:38:08.509
<v Speaker 2>don't want the paperwork or to go to prison or

0:38:08.530 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 2>to face all this. But they're going to do what

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 2>they're doing. And they are sworn law enforcement, and they

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>are trained. Most of them are former cops or military

0:38:16.660 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>or both. And, again, I'm surprised at how professional they've

0:38:20.140 --> 0:38:23.180
<v Speaker 2>been so far because these are dangerous situations they're in

0:38:23.219 --> 0:38:25.850
<v Speaker 2>with I mean, even before this guy got killed, they

0:38:25.870 --> 0:38:28.489
<v Speaker 2>were throwing giant chunks of ice at him and bricks

0:38:28.590 --> 0:38:32.500
<v Speaker 2>at him and, you know, just everything else.

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Because they just scream, Nazi, if you die, die, die.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like, and they lied about that kid,

0:38:39.020 --> 0:38:42.580
<v Speaker 2>you know, that five-year-old at the school. The dad runs,

0:38:43.060 --> 0:38:45.779
<v Speaker 2>little kid standing there. So they just say, well, here,

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.529
<v Speaker 2>let's lead you inside. And then that's the truth. But

0:38:48.550 --> 0:38:52.330
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. It's always just some new... Hyped up hysteria,

0:38:52.370 --> 0:38:53.910
<v Speaker 2>some new craziness. At the end of the day, they're

0:38:53.930 --> 0:38:55.670
<v Speaker 2>the ones that created the crisis. They're the ones that

0:38:55.690 --> 0:38:56.230
<v Speaker 2>told the illegals to.

0:38:56.210 --> 0:38:57.610
<v Speaker 3>Come up here. They're the ones that gave them all

0:38:57.630 --> 0:38:59.310
<v Speaker 3>the freebies. They're the ones that did all this.

0:38:59.750 --> 0:39:01.750
<v Speaker 1>I get that Alex is peddling around a lot of

0:39:01.790 --> 0:39:04.410
<v Speaker 1>bullshit about how everything is the globalists' fault, but let's

0:39:04.450 --> 0:39:07.220
<v Speaker 1>just cut through all of that. Because the globalists have

0:39:07.260 --> 0:39:09.379
<v Speaker 1>done all the things that they've done over the last

0:39:09.420 --> 0:39:11.700
<v Speaker 1>few decades, Alex does not believe that you have a

0:39:11.739 --> 0:39:15.430
<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment right anymore. Because he likes what ICE is

0:39:15.469 --> 0:39:17.860
<v Speaker 1>doing and because he feels like they hurt the right people,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.620
<v Speaker 1>they should have no punishment for killing you because you're

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.060
<v Speaker 1>legally carrying a gun in public. All the shit that

0:39:24.100 --> 0:39:27.750
<v Speaker 1>he's doing, all of these touch points he's trying to make,

0:39:28.210 --> 0:39:30.580
<v Speaker 1>all of it is a distraction from the main point

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.919
<v Speaker 1>of this video, which is that the state can kill

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.950
<v Speaker 1>you for having a gun now. Attempts to punish federal

0:39:36.030 --> 0:39:38.390
<v Speaker 1>agents for killing someone for having a gun, that's just

0:39:38.469 --> 0:39:41.890
<v Speaker 1>Soros judges trying to meddle with Trump's agenda for success.

0:39:42.700 --> 0:39:44.980
<v Speaker 1>That's where he's at. Yeah. That's what he's saying.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.299
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, we should seriously be sitting here with

0:39:49.340 --> 0:39:52.010
<v Speaker 4>him going like, if that guy had killed all of

0:39:52.070 --> 0:39:55.190
<v Speaker 4>those ICE officers, I would defend him. He should have.

0:39:55.450 --> 0:39:58.089
<v Speaker 4>They all had guns and they were trying to take

0:39:58.130 --> 0:39:59.910
<v Speaker 4>his gun away. He should have been able to murder

0:40:00.070 --> 0:40:01.890
<v Speaker 4>all of those people. He should have been able to

0:40:01.930 --> 0:40:03.230
<v Speaker 4>shoot them all in the fucking head.

0:40:03.350 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>If he was there protesting vaccine mandates, Alex probably would.

0:40:08.940 --> 0:40:09.700
<v Speaker 1>Have that position.

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.790
<v Speaker 4>These motherfuckers bombed an abortion clinic. Fuck off. Fuck all

0:40:13.810 --> 0:40:15.570
<v Speaker 4>of these fuckers. I don't give a shit.

0:40:16.489 --> 0:40:19.370
<v Speaker 1>So this is the end of the first Twitter video

0:40:19.410 --> 0:40:20.149
<v Speaker 1>that Alex made.

0:40:20.270 --> 0:40:21.150
<v Speaker 4>Oh, there's more than one.

0:40:21.250 --> 0:40:22.260
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a second video.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.340
<v Speaker 4>And then he did his show.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:23.700
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:23.860 --> 0:40:24.259
<v Speaker 4>Oh, fuck.

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to listen to all of it because

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it does get tiresome. I believe that. But here is

0:40:30.380 --> 0:40:33.900
<v Speaker 1>Alex talking. I guess he decided like. Why not shoot

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 1>another video? Come on, I'm in the car.

0:40:35.420 --> 0:40:36.219
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're in the car.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 3>So you've seen the angles. You've seen the facts. They're

0:40:38.460 --> 0:40:39.580
<v Speaker 3>totally surprised. They jump.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.819
<v Speaker 2>They run. They believe they obviously see a gun. Two

0:40:42.860 --> 0:40:45.580
<v Speaker 2>of them shoot in to the man on the ground,

0:40:46.020 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Alex Peretti, who's now dead. And we're sad for him

0:40:48.780 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and his family. So that's the reality of what's happened here.

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.460
<v Speaker 2>But when you say that there's no borders, when you

0:40:56.500 --> 0:40:59.029
<v Speaker 2>say get out of the city, these are sanctuary cities,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:03.250
<v Speaker 2>even for hardened criminals, It creates a constitutional crisis, and

0:41:03.390 --> 0:41:04.310
<v Speaker 2>Trump is not going to back down.

0:41:04.850 --> 0:41:07.710
<v Speaker 3>So they've created this crisis. They cooperate with ICE.

0:41:07.770 --> 0:41:09.290
<v Speaker 2>But, no, they want illegals to be part of the

0:41:09.330 --> 0:41:12.310
<v Speaker 2>new census, 18 new seats for the Democrats already. They

0:41:12.330 --> 0:41:14.190
<v Speaker 2>want them to vote in elections. They admit all that now.

0:41:14.590 --> 0:41:17.390
<v Speaker 2>And this is about breaking the country. If the Democrats

0:41:17.430 --> 0:41:19.549
<v Speaker 2>can hold the city's hostages they control almost every one

0:41:19.610 --> 0:41:22.950
<v Speaker 2>of through election fraud, and that's the Podesta plan, it's

0:41:22.969 --> 0:41:25.830
<v Speaker 2>a Civil War movie, that's one battle after another, then

0:41:26.030 --> 0:41:27.089
<v Speaker 2>they've conquered this country.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.100
<v Speaker 1>So to translate that, if Alex has seen a couple

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.299
<v Speaker 1>of movies he doesn't understand and he feels like some

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.779
<v Speaker 1>protesters are yelling some stuff he doesn't like, then the

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.859
<v Speaker 1>Bill of Rights doesn't exist anymore. I think it may

0:41:37.910 --> 0:41:41.210
<v Speaker 1>be an overly simple way of putting things, but Alex

0:41:41.250 --> 0:41:44.770
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't believe in universal rights. He may believe that

0:41:44.870 --> 0:41:47.350
<v Speaker 1>rights are endowed by the creator, but he doesn't think

0:41:47.390 --> 0:41:50.270
<v Speaker 1>that everyone was created equal with the same freedom to

0:41:50.310 --> 0:41:54.069
<v Speaker 1>pursue happiness. And until he gets real about that, this

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:55.010
<v Speaker 1>shit is stupid.

0:41:55.219 --> 0:41:55.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.100
<v Speaker 1>Like, he doesn't think that some people have rights.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>He can act like he's a Second Amendment guy, but

0:42:03.980 --> 0:42:06.060
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, some people don't have that right.

0:42:06.300 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean.

0:42:07.219 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>It's universal, except that.

0:42:08.900 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 4>I find it.

0:42:11.430 --> 0:42:14.390
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like a degree for me. Like, every

0:42:14.469 --> 0:42:20.980
<v Speaker 4>headline that I saw that was like, ICE... Shoots and

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 4>kills U.S. citizen are such like I don't even know

0:42:26.300 --> 0:42:28.900
<v Speaker 4>if they realize that they're implying that it would be

0:42:28.940 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 4>totally fine if they'd killed a non-U.S. citizen or a

0:42:32.140 --> 0:42:34.830
<v Speaker 4>person who was illegal or a person who is not

0:42:34.910 --> 0:42:39.670
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be there or blankety blank. That implies that

0:42:39.690 --> 0:42:43.029
<v Speaker 4>it would have been different. As opposed to, hey, ice

0:42:43.110 --> 0:42:46.610
<v Speaker 4>can't kill anybody. Ice cannot kill anybody. You can't kill anybody.

0:42:46.930 --> 0:42:48.150
<v Speaker 4>You can't kill anybody.

0:42:48.370 --> 0:42:48.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:49.300 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and my language is even, you know, like, guilty

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of that a little bit. And I don't mean it

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.020
<v Speaker 1>to be, like, if this person wasn't a citizen, it

0:42:57.060 --> 0:42:57.700
<v Speaker 1>would be fine.

0:42:57.940 --> 0:42:58.140
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.049
<v Speaker 1>And I realize that part of the reason, for me

0:43:02.110 --> 0:43:04.770
<v Speaker 1>at least, in the framing of how I'm talking about this,

0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:09.509
<v Speaker 1>is because I meet Alec's at least partially where he is.

0:43:09.570 --> 0:43:09.750
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:43:10.170 --> 0:43:12.390
<v Speaker 1>So for him, the fact that this is a citizen

0:43:12.810 --> 0:43:14.070
<v Speaker 1>matters a lot.

0:43:14.110 --> 0:43:14.910
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely.

0:43:14.969 --> 0:43:18.130
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I, I, that's why my language is,

0:43:18.610 --> 0:43:20.609
<v Speaker 1>is intentionally pointing that out.

0:43:20.780 --> 0:43:20.930
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:43:21.070 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>But your point, your point is right too. Like it's,

0:43:24.100 --> 0:43:27.689
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't, it, It doesn't make it any different than

0:43:27.710 --> 0:43:28.870
<v Speaker 1>had they have killed anybody.

0:43:28.930 --> 0:43:33.180
<v Speaker 4>The context within which we are discussing this is far

0:43:33.260 --> 0:43:38.740
<v Speaker 4>different than anything that fucking ABC News or whoever, whatever

0:43:38.780 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 4>fucking morning show is saying. But it's still good to

0:43:41.180 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 4>call yourself out about it a little bit. But yeah,

0:43:44.430 --> 0:43:48.790
<v Speaker 4>it is very much like... The addition of that detail

0:43:49.270 --> 0:43:53.930
<v Speaker 4>is meant to assuage, like, well, I mean, now that

0:43:53.969 --> 0:43:56.330
<v Speaker 4>we've added this accuracy, we don't have to then go

0:43:56.430 --> 0:44:00.100
<v Speaker 4>retroactively say, let's go look and see how many people

0:44:00.260 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Ice is murdering.

0:44:00.980 --> 0:44:01.219
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

0:44:01.580 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 4>How many people is ICE murdering? Why don't we know

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.620
<v Speaker 4>how many people ICE is murdering? Because if we have

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 4>to acknowledge that one of them is a U.S. citizen,

0:44:09.860 --> 0:44:11.820
<v Speaker 4>doesn't that imply that there's a bunch that I haven't

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.390
<v Speaker 4>heard about who weren't U.S.

0:44:13.430 --> 0:44:16.330
<v Speaker 1>Citizens? It implies that as a possibility. And I think

0:44:16.390 --> 0:44:21.770
<v Speaker 1>that the uncomfortable reality is probably if we open that

0:44:21.969 --> 0:44:24.330
<v Speaker 1>door too wide, we might find out that we don't

0:44:24.350 --> 0:44:25.350
<v Speaker 1>really know any numbers.

0:44:25.930 --> 0:44:26.630
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I mean.

0:44:26.650 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Someone might not even really be keeping track of.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Here's what fucks me up, because here's what I see

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.740
<v Speaker 4>in that video that I am not hearing from other people,

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 4>and it bothers me. It is professionalism.

0:44:39.630 --> 0:44:40.009
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:44:40.610 --> 0:44:44.370
<v Speaker 4>That is not something that was their first go-round. They

0:44:44.410 --> 0:44:47.790
<v Speaker 4>have executed plenty of people very similarly.

0:44:47.910 --> 0:44:49.010
<v Speaker 1>Let me push back on that.

0:44:49.110 --> 0:44:49.340
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:54.100
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would say professionalism. I'm feeling

0:44:54.260 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>similar things to what you're saying, but professionalism to me

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is like James Bond. Sure. Precision. Sure.

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Fair enough.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.069
<v Speaker 1>They seem brazen. Yes.

0:45:04.670 --> 0:45:05.220
<v Speaker 3>That's what I see.

0:45:05.230 --> 0:45:09.030
<v Speaker 4>They seem brazen and practiced. This is not their first

0:45:09.130 --> 0:45:10.050
<v Speaker 4>disarm and murder.

0:45:11.090 --> 0:45:13.189
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also so imprecise.

0:45:14.180 --> 0:45:15.739
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you have to be that precise whenever

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.580
<v Speaker 4>you've got 10 shots in your back pocket.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.180
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess that's true.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.660
<v Speaker 4>They're not snipers. They don't need sniper behaviors.

0:45:22.300 --> 0:45:22.540
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.779
<v Speaker 4>They got plenty of bullets. It seems like they're not

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.180
<v Speaker 4>running low. Nobody's like, hey, we're not going to replace

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.669
<v Speaker 4>that clip that you just shot into that human being.

0:45:30.930 --> 0:45:33.009
<v Speaker 4>Now you don't get bullets. They're going to give them

0:45:33.050 --> 0:45:33.649
<v Speaker 4>another clip.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I just bucked a little bit, I guess, because, like,

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.580
<v Speaker 1>for me, professionalism has the feeling of, like, choreographed.

0:45:39.700 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 4>I get what you're saying. You know what I mean?

0:45:40.860 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no.

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I get what you're saying.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And I see sloppy.

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:44.089
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.009
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, like, not really all that

0:45:47.110 --> 0:45:50.550
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with doing the thing that they're doing, which is murder.

0:45:50.610 --> 0:45:50.750
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:51.570 --> 0:45:53.550
<v Speaker 1>And, yeah, that's not cool.

0:45:53.770 --> 0:45:54.090
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:45:54.410 --> 0:45:55.310
<v Speaker 1>No. It doesn't.

0:45:55.570 --> 0:45:55.750
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:56.270 --> 0:45:59.740
<v Speaker 1>And I agree with you that, like. We can't know

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:05.020
<v Speaker 1>right now, with the information available, what else is unknown.

0:46:06.100 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Who else has been hurt? We don't know that, but

0:46:10.940 --> 0:46:14.390
<v Speaker 1>they do. it doesn't strike confidence that this was like a,

0:46:14.489 --> 0:46:17.069
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, what the fuck kind of situation when

0:46:17.230 --> 0:46:19.550
<v Speaker 1>the behavior is, is like you're describing.

0:46:19.610 --> 0:46:19.850
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:19.989 --> 0:46:22.330
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it would be, it would be different. It

0:46:22.370 --> 0:46:25.730
<v Speaker 4>would be very different if like immediately after in that video,

0:46:25.810 --> 0:46:27.890
<v Speaker 4>the guy was like, Oh my God, what the fuck

0:46:27.910 --> 0:46:28.609
<v Speaker 4>did I just do?

0:46:28.790 --> 0:46:29.549
<v Speaker 1>None of that.

0:46:30.050 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 4>None of that. It was like, Hey, here's our next steps.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And the previous shooting was even, you know,

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like calling the person a bitch and not allowing emergency

0:46:43.060 --> 0:46:47.910
<v Speaker 1>aid to check on her. Like those are not actions

0:46:48.070 --> 0:46:50.989
<v Speaker 1>of someone who made a sincere error in the heat

0:46:51.010 --> 0:46:51.550
<v Speaker 1>of the moment.

0:46:51.610 --> 0:46:51.750
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:46:52.050 --> 0:46:54.830
<v Speaker 1>And that I agree with you. That is an incredibly

0:46:54.870 --> 0:46:58.219
<v Speaker 1>scary element of this. So anyway, it's all about the

0:46:58.260 --> 0:46:59.340
<v Speaker 1>Podesta plan.

0:46:59.540 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it is.

0:47:00.500 --> 0:47:00.739
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

0:47:01.850 --> 0:47:04.430
<v Speaker 2>One other key point in the Podesta plan that they're following,

0:47:04.950 --> 0:47:07.140
<v Speaker 2>they want to build public support for the blue cities

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.820
<v Speaker 2>and states to break away and have a secession and

0:47:09.860 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>literally lead local police and governments against the federal forces.

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.380
<v Speaker 3>That's in the Podesta plan. It's in the Civil War movie.

0:47:16.420 --> 0:47:19.380
<v Speaker 2>And that's now what the police chief, the mayor Fry,

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.259
<v Speaker 2>the governor are talking about by saying what ISIS is

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 2>doing is illegal, which it's not in its main actions.

0:47:25.180 --> 0:47:27.540
<v Speaker 2>It delegitimizes them in the eyes of much of the

0:47:27.580 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>public that are ignorant. And that creates the schism as

0:47:30.340 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 2>the pretext.

0:47:34.030 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So let's say that the Podesta plan does involve trying

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to delegitimize ICE. According to the way Alex is applying

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.460
<v Speaker 1>that piece of information, that means that no criticism of

0:47:43.580 --> 0:47:46.569
<v Speaker 1>ICE can ever be taken as valid, because to accept

0:47:46.650 --> 0:47:50.189
<v Speaker 1>that some delegitimizing piece of information about ICE is true

0:47:50.489 --> 0:47:53.730
<v Speaker 1>would be in effect part of the Podesta plan working.

0:47:54.500 --> 0:47:57.859
<v Speaker 1>If the Podesta Plan requires the delegitimization of ICE, then

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.660
<v Speaker 1>the best way to fight it involves supporting ICE at

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:05.550
<v Speaker 1>all costs. Everything that ICE does will be justifiable this way,

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.530
<v Speaker 1>and God forbid there ever end up being a mass

0:48:08.570 --> 0:48:11.969
<v Speaker 1>casualty event surrounding ICE. Alex could just pivot to saying

0:48:12.030 --> 0:48:14.190
<v Speaker 1>it was a false flag being done by the globalists

0:48:14.210 --> 0:48:18.350
<v Speaker 1>to make ICE look bad. It's all perfect. He has

0:48:18.390 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a system in place where no state atrocity can be

0:48:20.580 --> 0:48:23.299
<v Speaker 1>taken seriously and where the Trump administration can get away

0:48:23.340 --> 0:48:27.580
<v Speaker 1>with anything. There is nothing he cannot lick. No boot

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:28.859
<v Speaker 1>is too big to lick.

0:48:29.210 --> 0:48:33.500
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's like... Even the Kent State guys,

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.390
<v Speaker 4>they had to go to trial. You know, at the

0:48:36.450 --> 0:48:39.649
<v Speaker 4>very least, we had a trial. Sure, they all got

0:48:39.690 --> 0:48:42.330
<v Speaker 4>fucking off. Sure, they were all like, ah, you're fine.

0:48:42.730 --> 0:48:46.250
<v Speaker 4>But at least it looked like they were going through

0:48:46.270 --> 0:48:50.180
<v Speaker 4>the motions of giving a fuck. This is not that. No.

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 4>This is not that. This is cheerfully cheering an atrocity.

0:48:54.420 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So we get to the actual show, Alex's actual show.

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.839
<v Speaker 1>And what do you know? More yapping. More blah, blah,

0:49:01.860 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>blah about the Podesta plan.

0:49:03.860 --> 0:49:06.299
<v Speaker 3>Amazing. I know exactly what's going on.

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.410
<v Speaker 2>And if you're a longtime listener of the show and

0:49:08.430 --> 0:49:10.489
<v Speaker 2>check out what I was playing, you know what's going on.

0:49:13.010 --> 0:49:15.970
<v Speaker 2>The Democrat Party has an official plan called the Podesta plan.

0:49:17.590 --> 0:49:18.190
<v Speaker 3>That is.

0:49:19.770 --> 0:49:19.930
<v Speaker 1>Bill.

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Around if Trump ever got back in office and deployed

0:49:25.660 --> 0:49:33.410
<v Speaker 2>ICE like presidents have done in the 23-year history of ICE,

0:49:37.510 --> 0:49:41.549
<v Speaker 2>then they will have their mobs attack ICE And that

0:49:41.570 --> 0:49:43.970
<v Speaker 2>when ICE then defends themselves, at some point, there's going

0:49:43.989 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to be some dead people on both sides. And then

0:49:47.020 --> 0:49:49.860
<v Speaker 2>they build Trump as a dictator and use that as

0:49:49.900 --> 0:49:51.460
<v Speaker 2>a pretext to have the blue states go into open

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:57.140
<v Speaker 2>rebellion and start seceding. Now, that's an official Democrat Party plan.

0:49:57.180 --> 0:49:59.810
<v Speaker 2>I made a big deal about it since they first

0:49:59.950 --> 0:50:02.170
<v Speaker 2>said in August of 2020, if he wins, if we

0:50:02.190 --> 0:50:04.230
<v Speaker 2>can't steal it, we're going to do that.

0:50:04.590 --> 0:50:08.989
<v Speaker 1>Man, he's struggling. That voice is shot. So, yeah, it's

0:50:09.430 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>all the best plan.

0:50:10.630 --> 0:50:11.730
<v Speaker 4>It's all the Podesta pad.

0:50:12.010 --> 0:50:12.310
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:50:13.090 --> 0:50:17.510
<v Speaker 4>I'm reflecting on myself and the journey that I've taken

0:50:17.550 --> 0:50:20.170
<v Speaker 4>through life. And this has given me a moment of

0:50:20.210 --> 0:50:23.350
<v Speaker 4>gratitude because I've realized something. I've done a lot of

0:50:23.430 --> 0:50:26.430
<v Speaker 4>drinking in a lot of public places. And it is

0:50:26.570 --> 0:50:29.089
<v Speaker 4>by the grace of God that I did not run

0:50:29.150 --> 0:50:31.750
<v Speaker 4>into somebody saying shit like this at the wrong time.

0:50:32.219 --> 0:50:36.780
<v Speaker 4>You know, like I have not been to jail. That's crazy.

0:50:36.940 --> 0:50:39.339
<v Speaker 4>Because if at any point in time I was less

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 4>in control and there was somebody saying shit like this

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.299
<v Speaker 4>after God knows how many atrocities we've lived through.

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like, you know. Yeah, I guess the circumstances

0:50:48.230 --> 0:50:51.970
<v Speaker 1>are always going to be hard to recreate at different

0:50:52.010 --> 0:50:54.930
<v Speaker 1>times in the past. Sure, sure. How many times did

0:50:54.969 --> 0:50:57.830
<v Speaker 1>somebody probably say something to you that like, you might

0:50:57.870 --> 0:50:59.810
<v Speaker 1>want to swing at them, but you just didn't know

0:50:59.890 --> 0:51:00.910
<v Speaker 1>what the words meant.

0:51:00.989 --> 0:51:01.529
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

0:51:01.570 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't, if I didn't do this, I don't

0:51:04.380 --> 0:51:06.779
<v Speaker 1>know if I'd know what the fucking Podesta plan meant.

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:07.140
<v Speaker 3>Nope.

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Nope. These are, this is inside language. Yep. And if

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.339
<v Speaker 1>I encountered that at a bar, you might like have

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:13.739
<v Speaker 1>no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 4>Or I'd be like, Oh, that's their way of dealing

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.029
<v Speaker 4>with it. Not, Oh, this is their way of protecting

0:51:19.070 --> 0:51:21.310
<v Speaker 4>the people from consequences for murder.

0:51:21.550 --> 0:51:27.149
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the globalists, they want you looking at the details, right?

0:51:27.190 --> 0:51:29.410
<v Speaker 1>They don't want you to see the bigger picture.

0:51:30.510 --> 0:51:34.110
<v Speaker 2>My job is really easy because we have the enemies

0:51:34.190 --> 0:51:39.870
<v Speaker 2>on plans. But it's also hard because I've been hammering

0:51:39.910 --> 0:51:42.890
<v Speaker 2>this and hammering this. And we're just now seeing the

0:51:42.910 --> 0:51:44.790
<v Speaker 2>White House and people get it and talk about it.

0:51:46.330 --> 0:51:48.850
<v Speaker 2>But if you just look at the tragedies that happened

0:51:48.890 --> 0:51:53.379
<v Speaker 2>here and there. that are caused by them triggering all this.

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:59.069
<v Speaker 2>And if you only focus on those and debate individual events,

0:51:59.130 --> 0:52:01.190
<v Speaker 2>you're down on their level, where they want you to be.

0:52:02.469 --> 0:52:05.430
<v Speaker 2>Instead of going, look, they said they would do this,

0:52:06.180 --> 0:52:07.279
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones fomenting it.

0:52:09.300 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 3>So you have this latest.

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.980
<v Speaker 2>Guy shot, and we now have the details on that,

0:52:13.020 --> 0:52:15.570
<v Speaker 2>what really happened, we'll be getting into it. This better

0:52:15.610 --> 0:52:21.609
<v Speaker 2>up close footage has been released. But when you pull

0:52:21.650 --> 0:52:24.270
<v Speaker 2>back from it, this is exactly what they want.

0:52:24.890 --> 0:52:28.190
<v Speaker 1>Alex says a pretty solid strategy to distract people from

0:52:28.230 --> 0:52:31.350
<v Speaker 1>situations that are really bad for his narrative, which involves

0:52:31.489 --> 0:52:35.660
<v Speaker 1>fluctuating between whether or not specific details matter. In a

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.940
<v Speaker 1>case like this, where the situation is indefensible, Alex knows

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.180
<v Speaker 1>he's going to lose an argument trying to say that

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the federal agents were right to shoot the guy and

0:52:43.910 --> 0:52:46.509
<v Speaker 1>that it would look bad, even if he tried to

0:52:46.570 --> 0:52:47.610
<v Speaker 1>mount that argument.

0:52:47.730 --> 0:52:47.890
<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

0:52:48.380 --> 0:52:51.660
<v Speaker 1>That's the conclusion he's supposed to get his listeners to accept,

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.470
<v Speaker 1>and his job is to pacify them in situations like this,

0:52:54.830 --> 0:52:57.410
<v Speaker 1>but the approach of looking at the details of the

0:52:57.450 --> 0:53:01.370
<v Speaker 1>shooting and defending them is a bad way to do it. Instead,

0:53:01.469 --> 0:53:03.330
<v Speaker 1>he's able to lead them down the path of not

0:53:03.370 --> 0:53:05.930
<v Speaker 1>caring about the shooting by demanding that they zoom out

0:53:05.969 --> 0:53:08.750
<v Speaker 1>and see the big picture. Sure, if you focus on

0:53:08.770 --> 0:53:11.170
<v Speaker 1>the specific incident, you're going to get mad at ICE,

0:53:11.270 --> 0:53:13.509
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to see it's a police state kind

0:53:13.550 --> 0:53:15.810
<v Speaker 1>of shit that's completely out of control, but that's what

0:53:15.850 --> 0:53:19.009
<v Speaker 1>the globalists want you to do. They've brought in all

0:53:19.050 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>these immigrants and had their paid provocateurs yell mean things

0:53:22.219 --> 0:53:24.540
<v Speaker 1>at ICE so it would lead to a moment with

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>optics like this, all so they could trick you into

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.020
<v Speaker 1>being mad at ICE because you were so set on

0:53:30.060 --> 0:53:33.990
<v Speaker 1>missing the forest for the trees, you fool. If you

0:53:34.010 --> 0:53:35.850
<v Speaker 1>watch enough of his show, you'll notice that this is

0:53:35.890 --> 0:53:39.410
<v Speaker 1>a strategy that works both directions. When the big picture

0:53:39.450 --> 0:53:42.290
<v Speaker 1>of something looks really bad for Alex, he demands that

0:53:42.330 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing is focusing on really minute details. Take,

0:53:46.700 --> 0:53:50.020
<v Speaker 1>for example, the whole Sandy Hook thing. His arguments were

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.660
<v Speaker 1>incredibly stupid there, but he was able to keep the

0:53:52.739 --> 0:53:55.489
<v Speaker 1>audience from recognizing that by insisting that they need to

0:53:55.510 --> 0:53:58.709
<v Speaker 1>just focus on these anomalies that he got from people

0:53:58.750 --> 0:54:02.750
<v Speaker 1>like Wolfgang Haubig and Jim Fetzer. In that case, you

0:54:02.770 --> 0:54:05.430
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be as lost in the weeds as

0:54:05.510 --> 0:54:09.170
<v Speaker 1>possible because Alex knew that you would lose the big

0:54:09.230 --> 0:54:09.890
<v Speaker 1>picture game.

0:54:10.090 --> 0:54:10.250
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:54:10.469 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>The big picture was that gun proliferation in the United

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.460
<v Speaker 1>States had gotten to the point where children might not

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>be safe going to school. And that was the result

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.740
<v Speaker 1>of policy choices that we had made and could choose

0:54:20.780 --> 0:54:24.530
<v Speaker 1>differently about. This was the argument Alex needed to avoid,

0:54:24.590 --> 0:54:26.770
<v Speaker 1>so instead of demanding that the audience see the big

0:54:26.830 --> 0:54:30.859
<v Speaker 1>picture about this, it all got very granular. And this

0:54:30.900 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>is a rhetorical tactic that manipulative liars use, and it's

0:54:34.460 --> 0:54:35.299
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. Yeah.

0:54:36.030 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 4>And it shouldn't even work because the big picture is worse.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 4>The big picture is this fucking ice guy. This is

0:54:42.620 --> 0:54:45.320
<v Speaker 4>a job. This guy was, could have been selling cars

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 4>20 years ago. And if he'd sold 10 more cars

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 4>in a month, maybe he'd still be selling cars. This

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.900
<v Speaker 4>was an organization created by people to lead to these outcomes.

0:54:55.180 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:54:55.820 --> 0:54:57.779
<v Speaker 1>No, that, that is a big picture, you know?

0:54:57.940 --> 0:54:58.180
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:54:58.780 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>But when you have, when you have an incident, that's bad.

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:03.940
<v Speaker 1>you can write your own big picture.

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 4>That's definitely true.

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 1>You could have that be your big picture about what

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.910
<v Speaker 1>people are missing out on by focusing on the details,

0:55:10.550 --> 0:55:13.609
<v Speaker 1>or you could do what Alex does. It's his way

0:55:13.650 --> 0:55:16.609
<v Speaker 1>of keeping things off balance a little bit. When you're

0:55:16.630 --> 0:55:18.370
<v Speaker 1>looking over here, you're supposed to be looking over there.

0:55:18.390 --> 0:55:19.989
<v Speaker 1>When you're looking over there, you're supposed to be over here.

0:55:20.110 --> 0:55:23.029
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, tactically, it is the move. Go where

0:55:23.070 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 4>they ain't, you know? So I suppose tip of the

0:55:27.620 --> 0:55:29.340
<v Speaker 4>cap to horror.

0:55:29.540 --> 0:55:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So Alex is a little bit mad that everyone

0:55:32.820 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is saying that Trump is going to try and get

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 1>a fourth term in office. Yeah, he's mad about that.

0:55:39.340 --> 0:55:41.860
<v Speaker 2>Then you have Senator Chris Murphy, one of the most

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:46.290
<v Speaker 2>evil senators in Congress out of Connecticut, and others saying

0:55:47.110 --> 0:55:49.989
<v Speaker 2>Trump is planning to cancel the 2026 election.

0:55:50.010 --> 0:55:55.470
<v Speaker 3>You're not even speculating. It's a fact. If he wins,

0:55:55.770 --> 0:55:58.330
<v Speaker 3>he's stolen it. Well, he says.

0:55:59.620 --> 0:56:01.469
<v Speaker 2>And last week he said he's going to cancel them.

0:56:02.530 --> 0:56:05.750
<v Speaker 2>Now he says he's going to steal them. Now, remember,

0:56:05.770 --> 0:56:08.750
<v Speaker 2>they indicted Trump for saying that 2020 was stolen from him,

0:56:09.450 --> 0:56:12.750
<v Speaker 2>but he had evidence. And Jack Smith just testified to

0:56:12.790 --> 0:56:17.210
<v Speaker 2>Congress about that this week. So it's just wild, folks.

0:56:17.770 --> 0:56:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Alex is leaving out an important detail here. He's saying

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that all these folks like Chris Murphy are saying that

0:56:22.860 --> 0:56:25.100
<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to try to have another term as president.

0:56:25.180 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And Alex is acting like this is an accusation that's

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.390
<v Speaker 1>coming out of thin air. These folks were only discussing

0:56:30.430 --> 0:56:33.259
<v Speaker 1>the idea of Trump running again and violating the Constitution

0:56:33.300 --> 0:56:36.990
<v Speaker 1>because Trump tweeted, quote, this is all caps, record numbers

0:56:37.130 --> 0:56:39.649
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Should I try for a fourth term?

0:56:40.739 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of Alex's show can be deconstructed like this.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Step one, Trump does or says something completely insane and inflammatory.

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.469
<v Speaker 1>Step two, someone else responds to Trump's inflammatory shit by

0:56:51.530 --> 0:56:55.230
<v Speaker 1>saying something like he shouldn't do this. Step three, Alex

0:56:55.290 --> 0:56:57.690
<v Speaker 1>reports on the response without ever actually dealing with the

0:56:57.730 --> 0:57:00.810
<v Speaker 1>inflammatory thing Trump did that started it. And he's pretending

0:57:00.850 --> 0:57:02.410
<v Speaker 1>that all of this is coming out of nowhere.

0:57:02.570 --> 0:57:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:06.089
<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking stupid game. And, uh, Come on.

0:57:06.290 --> 0:57:06.529
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:06.690 --> 0:57:07.670
<v Speaker 1>Come on now. Yeah.

0:57:07.810 --> 0:57:13.069
<v Speaker 4>And also, like, realistically, yeah, he's going to get that.

0:57:13.270 --> 0:57:15.310
<v Speaker 4>What are you talking about? Is anybody to stop him?

0:57:15.430 --> 0:57:16.870
<v Speaker 4>Nobody's going to stop him. Of course he's going to

0:57:16.890 --> 0:57:17.170
<v Speaker 4>do that.

0:57:17.410 --> 0:57:20.430
<v Speaker 1>I think it would take something large to stop. Yeah. Yeah.

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:25.260
<v Speaker 4>Maybe if the Democrats win the midterms and then immediately

0:57:25.540 --> 0:57:29.580
<v Speaker 4>25th Amendment him with like, cops and shit, arresting him

0:57:29.820 --> 0:57:32.380
<v Speaker 4>and like putting him on a boat that goes into

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 4>the middle of the Atlantic ocean. And then nobody can

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 4>ever find it again. And I'm sorry. You can be president.

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 4>If you get back, you can be president. If you

0:57:39.890 --> 0:57:41.890
<v Speaker 4>get back, but you start in the middle of the ocean.

0:57:41.970 --> 0:57:44.390
<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to Thunderbolt Ross? I think that's what

0:57:44.410 --> 0:57:45.430
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing.

0:57:45.590 --> 0:57:47.510
<v Speaker 4>I think that should be how it works.

0:57:48.610 --> 0:57:49.470
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's going to work.

0:57:49.830 --> 0:57:50.810
<v Speaker 4>Here's what we do next.

0:57:50.810 --> 0:57:51.430
<v Speaker 3>2020, uh, 2028 election.

0:57:51.510 --> 0:57:52.150
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:57:55.410 --> 0:57:58.130
<v Speaker 4>We put all of our presidential candidates in the center

0:57:58.150 --> 0:58:00.090
<v Speaker 4>of the Atlantic. Whoever gets back is president.

0:58:00.650 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we just want a seafaring president.

0:58:05.260 --> 0:58:09.780
<v Speaker 4>Exactly. The best leaders have always come from the sea.

0:58:10.740 --> 0:58:14.090
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with that now. I don't care. Dolphin for president.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.790
<v Speaker 4>Maoris are the best presidents. Everybody knows that.

0:58:16.830 --> 0:58:17.110
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:58:17.270 --> 0:58:17.350
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:58:17.790 --> 0:58:21.230
<v Speaker 1>So Alex has some big news that's broken on Twitter,

0:58:21.590 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's about left-wing anti-ICE signal groups being infiltrated.

0:58:26.940 --> 0:58:27.260
<v Speaker 3>Uh-oh.

0:58:28.060 --> 0:58:30.380
<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into it right now.

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:37.320
<v Speaker 2>We have incredible discoveries that I spent hours today researching.

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:39.420
<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable.

0:58:40.460 --> 0:58:45.820
<v Speaker 2>Journalists were able to infiltrate the signal chat app used

0:58:45.870 --> 0:58:51.260
<v Speaker 2>by the Democrats... In Minnesota and via that into California, Illinois,

0:58:51.300 --> 0:58:51.740
<v Speaker 2>you name it.

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.820
<v Speaker 3>And it is state senators, state.

0:58:55.580 --> 0:59:01.830
<v Speaker 2>Reps, high-level staffers of walls commanding people to harass and

0:59:01.870 --> 0:59:06.310
<v Speaker 2>attack ICE and stalk them and dox them and foment

0:59:06.350 --> 0:59:08.910
<v Speaker 2>all this. Now, we already knew that was going on,

0:59:08.950 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 2>but here is confirmation. unbelievable and in the signal chat

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:23.210
<v Speaker 2>apps feeds are hundreds of videos of while I can

0:59:23.230 --> 0:59:28.310
<v Speaker 2>call them as communists running these operations so there's your

0:59:28.330 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>racketeering It's one thing to say we're not going to

0:59:31.820 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>aid federal agents following the Constitution with court orders and warrants.

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 3>That's just obstruction of justice.

0:59:40.950 --> 0:59:44.610
<v Speaker 2>But when you're out there quarterbacking, working with thousands of people,

0:59:45.790 --> 0:59:48.070
<v Speaker 2>and working with NGOs, it is a conspiracy.

0:59:48.130 --> 0:59:51.250
<v Speaker 3>It is racketeering. So I could do the whole four

0:59:51.290 --> 0:59:52.250
<v Speaker 3>hours tonight on that.

0:59:53.370 --> 0:59:53.590
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:59:54.550 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Just that. Incredible. Incredible.

0:59:57.090 --> 0:59:59.470
<v Speaker 2>Because they upload videos of themselves doing it and the

0:59:59.890 --> 1:00:03.460
<v Speaker 2>meetings they have and in the field and stalking and

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:08.220
<v Speaker 2>harassing innocent people. Demanding citizens' papers. I mean, it's everything

1:00:08.260 --> 1:00:10.900
<v Speaker 2>they claim ICE is doing, they're doing it. With no

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:11.540
<v Speaker 2>legal authority.

1:00:11.980 --> 1:00:13.940
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty shitty that Alex is teeing off on

1:00:13.980 --> 1:00:16.990
<v Speaker 1>this story and he's not crediting online dipshit Cam Higby

1:00:17.050 --> 1:00:19.150
<v Speaker 1>for doing the legwork of hanging out in a bunch

1:00:19.190 --> 1:00:22.650
<v Speaker 1>of signal chats and taking screenshots. Alex is making up

1:00:22.770 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a ton of new details and embellishing this story out,

1:00:25.340 --> 1:00:28.540
<v Speaker 1>but he's basing all of this on the supposed investigation

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.260
<v Speaker 1>someone else carried out, and Cam should get some credit

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:31.480
<v Speaker 1>for that.

1:00:31.500 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's smart.

1:00:32.660 --> 1:00:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I read through Cam's tweets on this, and honestly, it

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 1>seems like activists organizing. There was one tweet where he

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.570
<v Speaker 1>had a screenshot of someone saying something like they were, quote,

1:00:41.670 --> 1:00:45.130
<v Speaker 1>expected at home base, and Cam commented that he'd been

1:00:45.230 --> 1:00:48.290
<v Speaker 1>unable to locate where this home base was, but that

1:00:48.310 --> 1:00:50.770
<v Speaker 1>this was proof that the protesters had a headquarters. Hmm.

1:00:51.350 --> 1:00:53.270
<v Speaker 1>Seems to me like this person could have easily been

1:00:53.310 --> 1:00:57.590
<v Speaker 1>talking about going home. They're expected by their spouse at

1:00:57.650 --> 1:00:58.670
<v Speaker 1>home or something.

1:00:58.710 --> 1:01:01.470
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes there's a colloquial language.

1:01:01.530 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This is an almost perfect InfoWars primary source. It's

1:01:05.820 --> 1:01:08.180
<v Speaker 1>not really all that scandalous, and no one's going to

1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.340
<v Speaker 1>read the stuff that was posted, but the fact that

1:01:10.380 --> 1:01:12.820
<v Speaker 1>it exists is enough to use as a base upon

1:01:12.860 --> 1:01:16.689
<v Speaker 1>which you can build whatever you want. Protest signal groups

1:01:16.710 --> 1:01:19.390
<v Speaker 1>were infiltrated by a social media dipshit, so now because

1:01:19.470 --> 1:01:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that premise is true, you can do whatever the fuck

1:01:21.700 --> 1:01:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you want with it. Make up whatever you want. Soros

1:01:24.220 --> 1:01:25.740
<v Speaker 1>is in there. Who cares? Absolutely.

1:01:25.820 --> 1:01:27.500
<v Speaker 4>Are you going to go check through all of the

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:29.860
<v Speaker 4>screenshots to see if what Alex is making up is true?

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Alex spent hours researching this.

1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:32.240
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

1:01:32.260 --> 1:01:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He read the script to one battle after another.

1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.580
<v Speaker 4>Or at the very least, he got a couple of

1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.080
<v Speaker 4>them that'll back him up, right?

1:01:38.100 --> 1:01:40.220
<v Speaker 1>Saw some of Cam's tweets. Yep, yep.

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Man, I do like how this is like, not only

1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:50.410
<v Speaker 4>am I going to ignore the thing that is basically

1:01:50.470 --> 1:01:53.310
<v Speaker 4>the death knell of any concept of principles, but I'm

1:01:53.350 --> 1:01:56.170
<v Speaker 4>also going to talk about this extremely low stakes dumbness.

1:01:57.070 --> 1:01:59.630
<v Speaker 4>And that is going to, I could do hours on that.

1:01:59.690 --> 1:02:00.150
<v Speaker 3>Hours.

1:02:00.330 --> 1:02:02.750
<v Speaker 4>Hours on that. Man, that just sucks.

1:02:02.790 --> 1:02:04.910
<v Speaker 1>He should do some hours about the signal groups that

1:02:04.930 --> 1:02:06.950
<v Speaker 1>his friends were in where they were planning on overthrowing

1:02:06.970 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the government on January 6th. Oh, fake news.

1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, here's the thing about that. Here's

1:02:12.380 --> 1:02:15.450
<v Speaker 4>a good lesson. It's illegal until you win. And if

1:02:15.470 --> 1:02:16.710
<v Speaker 4>you win, it's not illegal.

1:02:17.510 --> 1:02:17.630
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1:02:17.950 --> 1:02:19.670
<v Speaker 4>So legality is kind of a.

1:02:19.790 --> 1:02:21.730
<v Speaker 1>Legality is an interesting concept.

1:02:22.110 --> 1:02:24.750
<v Speaker 4>It's a Schrodinger's cat, in a way.

1:02:25.190 --> 1:02:27.890
<v Speaker 1>So Alex gets back to what you would describe as

1:02:27.910 --> 1:02:29.850
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing for him to be talking about,

1:02:29.910 --> 1:02:31.410
<v Speaker 1>which is, of course, this murder.

1:02:31.470 --> 1:02:32.290
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:02:32.610 --> 1:02:34.350
<v Speaker 1>And I think his take on it is bad.

1:02:35.330 --> 1:02:37.110
<v Speaker 2>And when you spend all day showing the new video

1:02:37.170 --> 1:02:39.930
<v Speaker 2>of the guy getting shot yesterday and We now have

1:02:39.970 --> 1:02:43.970
<v Speaker 2>the HD of it, and it's clear that they thought

1:02:44.010 --> 1:02:45.870
<v Speaker 2>he had another gun, and a bunch of stuff fell

1:02:45.890 --> 1:02:47.890
<v Speaker 2>on the ground, and they got scared and said, gun, gun,

1:02:47.910 --> 1:02:50.940
<v Speaker 2>when they got his other gun and shot him. But

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:52.100
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to go to jail for it because

1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:53.920
<v Speaker 2>they do it on purpose. They thought they were in danger,

1:02:53.940 --> 1:02:57.420
<v Speaker 2>and he came with a gun and stuck himself in

1:02:57.440 --> 1:03:02.510
<v Speaker 2>the middle of a riot. That's like, I have 35

1:03:02.510 --> 1:03:05.330
<v Speaker 2>a few miles from here. People are driving 85 miles

1:03:05.350 --> 1:03:07.680
<v Speaker 2>an hour on it. And if I just stood on

1:03:07.700 --> 1:03:09.100
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road, just ran out in front

1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:16.830
<v Speaker 2>of cars, somebody hits me, it's not their fault. And

1:03:16.870 --> 1:03:19.030
<v Speaker 2>it turns out this nurse seems like a nice guy

1:03:19.050 --> 1:03:22.810
<v Speaker 2>who got killed. His family, with the message to the public,

1:03:23.310 --> 1:03:26.090
<v Speaker 2>told him, don't do this, don't do this, be smart.

1:03:26.110 --> 1:03:29.390
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would not get anywhere near that.

1:03:29.830 --> 1:03:31.990
<v Speaker 1>So the victim didn't bring a gun and decide to

1:03:32.030 --> 1:03:34.250
<v Speaker 1>get involved in a riot. He went to a protest

1:03:34.310 --> 1:03:37.190
<v Speaker 1>and legally carried a weapon, something Alex believes is him

1:03:37.310 --> 1:03:41.810
<v Speaker 1>exercising his First and Second Amendment rights. Understood correctly, Alex

1:03:41.870 --> 1:03:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is trying to argue that it's too dangerous and tantamount

1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:47.980
<v Speaker 1>to suicide to exercise your rights if you're opposing Trump's government.

1:03:48.580 --> 1:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They will kill you if they feel threatened, and no

1:03:51.420 --> 1:03:54.910
<v Speaker 1>courts are going to do anything about it. Alex believing

1:03:54.950 --> 1:03:58.630
<v Speaker 1>that militarized police were willing to kill protesters and dissenters

1:03:58.910 --> 1:04:01.990
<v Speaker 1>That's nothing new. That's been a feature of his content forever,

1:04:02.450 --> 1:04:04.710
<v Speaker 1>but it's important to recognize that he's not on the

1:04:04.750 --> 1:04:08.590
<v Speaker 1>people's side anymore. If federal agents kill you because they

1:04:08.630 --> 1:04:10.990
<v Speaker 1>were scared of how you were exercising your rights, well,

1:04:11.010 --> 1:04:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a shame and you seem like a nice guy,

1:04:12.860 --> 1:04:13.980
<v Speaker 1>but what do you expect to happen?

1:04:14.140 --> 1:04:14.380
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:15.940
<v Speaker 1>Fuck this.

1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:04:16.940 --> 1:04:19.140
<v Speaker 4>And I mean the, but the other side of that

1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:22.940
<v Speaker 4>is like, okay, so then if you are bringing a

1:04:22.980 --> 1:04:25.200
<v Speaker 4>gun to a protest, you should be ready to murder

1:04:25.220 --> 1:04:25.810
<v Speaker 4>people with it.

1:04:26.800 --> 1:04:31.380
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know about that. No, in terms

1:04:31.420 --> 1:04:33.660
<v Speaker 1>of Alex. Well, yes, if you're Alex, yeah.

1:04:33.720 --> 1:04:36.320
<v Speaker 4>If you're saying like, hey, if the government, if you

1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.270
<v Speaker 4>bring a gun to a protest and it's fine for

1:04:38.290 --> 1:04:42.110
<v Speaker 4>the government to murder you, then you're saying don't bring

1:04:42.150 --> 1:04:44.430
<v Speaker 4>a gun to a protest. Or if you are bringing

1:04:44.470 --> 1:04:46.870
<v Speaker 4>a gun to a protest, be aware that it is

1:04:46.910 --> 1:04:47.780
<v Speaker 4>now a firefight.

1:04:48.620 --> 1:04:52.410
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't understand how he can like where

1:04:52.430 --> 1:04:54.130
<v Speaker 1>the line is for any of that.

1:04:54.210 --> 1:04:54.390
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:04:54.710 --> 1:04:57.330
<v Speaker 1>His messaging makes no sense whatsoever.

1:04:57.350 --> 1:04:57.790
<v Speaker 3>Nope.

1:04:58.010 --> 1:05:02.130
<v Speaker 1>And it's all in service of that old boot that

1:05:02.170 --> 1:05:03.310
<v Speaker 1>he loves so much.

1:05:04.030 --> 1:05:07.390
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you got it. You got to be paid way more.

1:05:07.610 --> 1:05:09.270
<v Speaker 4>You got to be paid a lot more. I just

1:05:09.290 --> 1:05:10.950
<v Speaker 4>feel like you got to be paid a lot more

1:05:11.130 --> 1:05:12.970
<v Speaker 4>period to do shit like this.

1:05:13.140 --> 1:05:16.540
<v Speaker 1>Right. And that's kind of, you know, why I think.

1:05:17.180 --> 1:05:19.300
<v Speaker 1>There's two things that I think. I think it doesn't

1:05:19.340 --> 1:05:21.780
<v Speaker 1>come down to money. I think there's something else.

1:05:21.900 --> 1:05:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

1:05:22.300 --> 1:05:25.820
<v Speaker 1>But then secondarily, I think that this isn't really a

1:05:25.860 --> 1:05:27.790
<v Speaker 1>betrayal of all the things that he's.

1:05:27.850 --> 1:05:28.710
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no.

1:05:28.770 --> 1:05:32.150
<v Speaker 1>He was lying then. I agree. Like this is as

1:05:32.270 --> 1:05:34.030
<v Speaker 1>true as he can ever be to himself.

1:05:34.250 --> 1:05:34.390
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1:05:34.430 --> 1:05:36.810
<v Speaker 1>He does not give a fuck if you get shot

1:05:36.850 --> 1:05:37.290
<v Speaker 1>with a gun.

1:05:37.450 --> 1:05:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1:05:37.660 --> 1:05:40.020
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't care about you like having a right to

1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:43.740
<v Speaker 1>have a gun. He just doesn't want his white. Christian

1:05:44.180 --> 1:05:46.690
<v Speaker 1>extremist friends didn't have guns. Agreed.

1:05:46.990 --> 1:05:47.229
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:05:47.370 --> 1:05:49.730
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you. I'm just saying that if you've built

1:05:49.830 --> 1:05:52.830
<v Speaker 4>up this brand of being the guy who does this stuff,

1:05:53.510 --> 1:05:57.910
<v Speaker 4>that's leverage. That's a higher paycheck. You're not using it

1:05:57.970 --> 1:06:00.890
<v Speaker 4>appropriately if you're not extorting money from the government.

1:06:00.910 --> 1:06:03.890
<v Speaker 1>No, that's true. And I think he should rightly be

1:06:03.950 --> 1:06:07.100
<v Speaker 1>recognizing the amount of danger that he poses. is putting himself.

1:06:07.220 --> 1:06:07.980
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:12.419
<v Speaker 1>The gun rights absolutists, uh, like are real. I wouldn't

1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:15.030
<v Speaker 1>betray them. Yeah. I think a lot of those right

1:06:15.070 --> 1:06:20.130
<v Speaker 1>wing audiences that, uh, have been radicalized by his actions

1:06:20.250 --> 1:06:22.350
<v Speaker 1>and his people like his actions.

1:06:22.490 --> 1:06:22.709
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:06:23.090 --> 1:06:24.850
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of them would see this kind

1:06:24.890 --> 1:06:28.820
<v Speaker 1>of behavior as like, all right, man, you are a betrayer. Yeah. Like,

1:06:29.460 --> 1:06:31.940
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It strikes me as something they would

1:06:31.980 --> 1:06:34.000
<v Speaker 1>not like. I would be worried if I were him.

1:06:34.020 --> 1:06:38.220
<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine any sort of unintended consequences coming from

1:06:38.260 --> 1:06:42.220
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of shit-talking lunatics radicalizing a bunch of gun-toting

1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:44.860
<v Speaker 4>lunatics as well. Yeah.

1:06:45.020 --> 1:06:47.460
<v Speaker 1>Probably going to be fine. So Alex earlier brought up

1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:51.390
<v Speaker 1>a story about Ice taking a kid, and he gets

1:06:51.450 --> 1:06:52.040
<v Speaker 1>back to that.

1:06:51.930 --> 1:06:52.280
<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

1:06:52.290 --> 1:06:52.510
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1:06:53.190 --> 1:06:55.910
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've experienced the crime wave of this. So

1:06:55.950 --> 1:06:56.270
<v Speaker 3>have you.

1:06:57.490 --> 1:07:01.450
<v Speaker 2>And so nobody humanizes that, though. You know the name

1:07:01.470 --> 1:07:03.470
<v Speaker 2>of the Border Patrol agents shot and killed last year?

1:07:03.490 --> 1:07:05.350
<v Speaker 2>Do you know the names of the ICE agents shot?

1:07:05.950 --> 1:07:08.590
<v Speaker 2>You got to look them up. But you know the

1:07:08.630 --> 1:07:13.940
<v Speaker 2>names of the few people that ICE has killed. And

1:07:13.980 --> 1:07:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they go, oh, this five-year-old boy outside of school, they

1:07:17.200 --> 1:07:20.100
<v Speaker 2>grabbed him as bait. No, his dad ran off. Illegal

1:07:20.140 --> 1:07:23.260
<v Speaker 2>alien with a big rap sheet. They just took him

1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:27.050
<v Speaker 2>into the school. They admit now that wasn't true, but

1:07:27.070 --> 1:07:29.750
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. Oh, they're me, the little boy with

1:07:29.790 --> 1:07:31.210
<v Speaker 2>his blue octopus hat on.

1:07:34.430 --> 1:07:37.090
<v Speaker 3>So all they have is this emotion and manipulation.

1:07:37.470 --> 1:07:39.260
<v Speaker 1>All that stuff Alex is saying in that clip is

1:07:39.300 --> 1:07:42.940
<v Speaker 1>a lie. Five-year-old Liam Ramos was taken by ICE and

1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:45.020
<v Speaker 1>the Border Patrol in the front yard of his home.

1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.540
<v Speaker 1>Witnesses on the scene have said that it was clear

1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that they were trying to hold this child to lure

1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:52.370
<v Speaker 1>his mother out of her home so they could snatch

1:07:52.390 --> 1:07:54.320
<v Speaker 1>her up too because they didn't have the ability to

1:07:54.390 --> 1:07:57.360
<v Speaker 1>enter the house. The mother refused to come outside, so

1:07:57.380 --> 1:07:59.660
<v Speaker 1>her child was taken and brought to a detention center

1:07:59.920 --> 1:08:03.020
<v Speaker 1>where his father was already being held. His father was

1:08:03.060 --> 1:08:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a legal resident of the United States, having applied for

1:08:05.400 --> 1:08:09.450
<v Speaker 1>asylum in 2024 after leaving Ecuador and following the steps

1:08:09.470 --> 1:08:12.370
<v Speaker 1>that are required to go through for that process. He

1:08:12.410 --> 1:08:14.810
<v Speaker 1>does not have a long criminal rap sheet, and in fact,

1:08:14.870 --> 1:08:17.410
<v Speaker 1>CNN was unable to find any criminal record for the

1:08:17.450 --> 1:08:21.180
<v Speaker 1>father either in the United States or in Ecuador. Alex

1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:28.799
<v Speaker 1>is lying about this case because it's indefensible. And yeah, that's.

1:08:32.350 --> 1:08:32.650
<v Speaker 3>It. Yep.

1:08:33.090 --> 1:08:36.570
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it is like, oh, those people are real.

1:08:37.229 --> 1:08:40.770
<v Speaker 4>How about that? How about that? How about monsters? Monsters

1:08:40.810 --> 1:08:41.290
<v Speaker 4>are real.

1:08:41.550 --> 1:08:44.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the best thing you can probably do is

1:08:44.189 --> 1:08:46.099
<v Speaker 1>just lie about them to make everyone feel better for

1:08:46.140 --> 1:08:47.099
<v Speaker 1>supporting those monsters.

1:08:47.200 --> 1:08:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:08:48.060 --> 1:08:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So look, they're targeted as hell. Right. They know what

1:08:52.060 --> 1:08:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they're doing.

1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:52.939
<v Speaker 4>Not enough.

1:08:53.060 --> 1:08:56.250
<v Speaker 1>They're out there. They got warrants and they're just like

1:08:56.370 --> 1:08:58.090
<v Speaker 1>they're taking care of business. TCB.

1:08:58.470 --> 1:08:59.450
<v Speaker 4>Who's giving them warrants?

1:09:00.220 --> 1:09:03.140
<v Speaker 1>But that's not important. But look, here's the thing. They

1:09:03.180 --> 1:09:05.939
<v Speaker 1>don't just go around picking up anybody. But then sometimes

1:09:05.979 --> 1:09:07.479
<v Speaker 1>they do. And that's fine, too.

1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh, OK.

1:09:08.140 --> 1:09:10.160
<v Speaker 1>But also they're really targeted. All right. Fair enough.

1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:12.620
<v Speaker 2>They say in the Podesta plan that we put articles up,

1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:14.660
<v Speaker 2>write a report on it. New York Times. It's got

1:09:14.700 --> 1:09:16.599
<v Speaker 2>a link to it. You know, they call it what

1:09:16.620 --> 1:09:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to do if Trump wins the election. That's the battle

1:09:19.420 --> 1:09:25.520
<v Speaker 2>plan's actual name. And it says when they go out

1:09:25.540 --> 1:09:29.320
<v Speaker 2>to do regular ICE enforcement, which is just the Interior

1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:35.059
<v Speaker 2>Border Patrol, Immigration Customs Enforcement, they also, when people are

1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:39.210
<v Speaker 2>making fake NFL jerseys or whenever they go raid the

1:09:39.250 --> 1:09:46.190
<v Speaker 2>swap meets, it's their job. And They just act like

1:09:46.270 --> 1:09:47.530
<v Speaker 2>they're not police.

1:09:47.610 --> 1:09:52.519
<v Speaker 3>It's all illegal. There's no warrants. That's not true. And on, on, on.

1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.500
<v Speaker 3>It's court orders, administrative warrants, and regular warrants.

1:09:56.660 --> 1:09:59.100
<v Speaker 2>They always have one. That's why they broke in a

1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:01.260
<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago in the FBI manager's car.

1:10:01.970 --> 1:10:02.889
<v Speaker 3>They're like, look at all this.

1:10:02.910 --> 1:10:04.690
<v Speaker 2>They know where these people live and that they're not

1:10:04.729 --> 1:10:06.810
<v Speaker 2>citizens and what they do and everything.

1:10:06.850 --> 1:10:10.590
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah. And look, they got arrest warrants here for them.

1:10:11.010 --> 1:10:11.570
<v Speaker 3>They got court.

1:10:11.590 --> 1:10:11.690
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:10:11.710 --> 1:10:12.410
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:16.460
<v Speaker 2>Did they just show up somewhere randomly looking for somebody?

1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.340
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've done some stuff like go to Home Depot.

1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:26.010
<v Speaker 2>We've got like 20 illegals out front every hour. They've

1:10:26.070 --> 1:10:30.050
<v Speaker 2>scooped them up too because Trump did. They say they did,

1:10:30.090 --> 1:10:33.590
<v Speaker 2>but I've confirmed they have. They've got quotas, which I

1:10:33.610 --> 1:10:35.670
<v Speaker 2>don't think is a good idea. I said day one,

1:10:35.710 --> 1:10:37.650
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of did this, but kind of didn't.

1:10:37.670 --> 1:10:40.170
<v Speaker 2>I said just focus on the people with huge criminal records.

1:10:41.220 --> 1:10:43.000
<v Speaker 3>But ICE is like, well, OK, well, when we're out

1:10:43.020 --> 1:10:44.480
<v Speaker 3>doing this, we run other people that are here illegally.

1:10:44.500 --> 1:10:46.770
<v Speaker 3>And once you get them.

1:10:47.240 --> 1:10:49.590
<v Speaker 1>So you can't have it both ways. Either ICE is

1:10:49.650 --> 1:10:52.929
<v Speaker 1>disciplined and they're actually out hunting down super criminal targets

1:10:53.090 --> 1:10:55.590
<v Speaker 1>or they're randomly picking up people they suspect might be

1:10:55.610 --> 1:10:58.750
<v Speaker 1>in the country illegally in a big dragnet. If they're

1:10:58.790 --> 1:11:01.470
<v Speaker 1>rounding up large groups from the Home Depot, then their

1:11:01.530 --> 1:11:05.070
<v Speaker 1>operations are not targeted. Alex understands the difference and he

1:11:05.090 --> 1:11:05.510
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care.

1:11:06.490 --> 1:11:11.790
<v Speaker 4>This is bullshit. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. When trying

1:11:11.850 --> 1:11:15.180
<v Speaker 4>to defend them, you only make it more obvious that

1:11:15.200 --> 1:11:17.180
<v Speaker 4>they're a state-backed terrorist organization. Yeah.

1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1:11:18.020 --> 1:11:19.660
<v Speaker 1>And they have quotas and are lying about it.

1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:22.870
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, that's the craziest thing. Oh, so they're

1:11:22.890 --> 1:11:26.750
<v Speaker 4>a state-backed terrorist organization that has no law or oversight whatsoever.

1:11:27.470 --> 1:11:29.990
<v Speaker 4>And if you're giving them a warrant, I guess you're

1:11:30.050 --> 1:11:33.769
<v Speaker 4>part of it. Yeah. Hey, judge, judge, go fuck yourself.

1:11:33.790 --> 1:11:35.810
<v Speaker 4>Who thinks that you're not a bad guy? You're in

1:11:35.939 --> 1:11:36.380
<v Speaker 4>ice now.

1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.740
<v Speaker 1>It's shocking how much they're just going after their targets

1:11:39.760 --> 1:11:42.860
<v Speaker 1>who are horrible criminals. And also sometimes they just. Pick

1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.680
<v Speaker 1>up a bunch of people. Yeah, just randomly and see

1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:47.400
<v Speaker 1>if any of them are criminals because it's fun.

1:11:47.580 --> 1:11:52.140
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they went after all the horrible criminals on week one.

1:11:52.400 --> 1:11:55.099
<v Speaker 4>There were about eight. And then they were like, well,

1:11:55.260 --> 1:11:57.520
<v Speaker 4>it turns out maybe all of our propaganda is bullshit.

1:11:57.560 --> 1:11:59.479
<v Speaker 4>So instead, let's just grab random people.

1:12:00.010 --> 1:12:01.990
<v Speaker 1>I honestly think that's generous of you. I know.

1:12:02.670 --> 1:12:02.950
<v Speaker 2>I know.

1:12:03.430 --> 1:12:06.990
<v Speaker 1>So Alex gets back to the guy who got shot. Sure.

1:12:07.250 --> 1:12:11.349
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he seems to have decided to go with

1:12:11.370 --> 1:12:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the metaphor of like, it's playing in traffic. This guy

1:12:14.900 --> 1:12:16.060
<v Speaker 1>was playing in traffic.

1:12:16.820 --> 1:12:16.969
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:12:16.979 --> 1:12:19.230
<v Speaker 2>They had a million people protesting up there this weekend

1:12:19.670 --> 1:12:22.270
<v Speaker 2>and one guy with a gun and he gets tackled

1:12:22.830 --> 1:12:26.150
<v Speaker 2>and then there's stuff flying around and things falling out

1:12:26.210 --> 1:12:28.929
<v Speaker 2>and clips on the ground and gun, gun, gun.

1:12:28.950 --> 1:12:30.270
<v Speaker 3>And in the hysteria, he is shot.

1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:32.100
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Don't play in traffic.

1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:35.220
<v Speaker 1>Sad.

1:12:35.240 --> 1:12:37.880
<v Speaker 3>He's dead. But the point is they created the.

1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.660
<v Speaker 2>Chaos and said, they're going to create the chaos to

1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:41.320
<v Speaker 2>get this done.

1:12:43.100 --> 1:12:46.620
<v Speaker 3>So they started it. It's their plan to do this.

1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:54.490
<v Speaker 2>They're the bad guys. Again, ISIS, 10,000 enforcers on the

1:12:54.510 --> 1:12:57.950
<v Speaker 2>enforcement side against 40 million illegals. I'm surprised under the

1:12:57.970 --> 1:13:01.750
<v Speaker 2>incredible pressure they're in that they haven't had more mistakes,

1:13:01.790 --> 1:13:05.450
<v Speaker 2>you could say. But it wasn't intentional. And he came

1:13:05.470 --> 1:13:08.650
<v Speaker 2>to that event and he was armed. And that's what happened.

1:13:08.770 --> 1:13:11.640
<v Speaker 2>So they will not be convicted. Believe me, they're not

1:13:11.680 --> 1:13:13.730
<v Speaker 2>happy about that. They're going to have to get lawyers.

1:13:13.770 --> 1:13:15.550
<v Speaker 3>They're going to get sued. They're going to get docs.

1:13:15.590 --> 1:13:17.910
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to not do that. But they're like, gun, gun, gun.

1:13:17.930 --> 1:13:19.750
<v Speaker 3>He had a gun. Bunch of stuff falls out on

1:13:19.770 --> 1:13:20.050
<v Speaker 3>the ground.

1:13:20.090 --> 1:13:23.150
<v Speaker 2>They think it's a gun. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

1:13:23.170 --> 1:13:26.889
<v Speaker 2>They're highly trained, folks. These are almost all former police

1:13:26.930 --> 1:13:30.150
<v Speaker 2>and military. They're not hiring wimps, as you can see.

1:13:30.180 --> 1:13:33.040
<v Speaker 2>But they're also not playing around, folks. They're out there

1:13:33.060 --> 1:13:36.180
<v Speaker 2>being screamed at and attacked all day long, surrounded. And

1:13:36.200 --> 1:13:37.900
<v Speaker 2>then you want to go insert yourself in the middle

1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:43.600
<v Speaker 2>of it. You're asking for it, folks. It'd be like

1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:45.160
<v Speaker 2>if there was a 50 mile an hour, 100 mile

1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:48.890
<v Speaker 2>an hour windstorm and I went up to Mount Bonnell

1:13:48.910 --> 1:13:50.549
<v Speaker 2>in Austin, the highest point, and stood.

1:13:50.390 --> 1:13:51.050
<v Speaker 3>On the edge of a cliff.

1:13:51.550 --> 1:13:53.270
<v Speaker 2>And then I get blown off the cliff and I'm like, oh,

1:13:53.290 --> 1:13:56.760
<v Speaker 2>my God, I'm going to die. Yeah, I mean, you

1:13:56.840 --> 1:13:58.580
<v Speaker 2>don't get in high wind and stay on the edge

1:13:58.600 --> 1:13:59.280
<v Speaker 2>of a freaking cliff.

1:13:59.540 --> 1:14:00.420
<v Speaker 3>Don't play in traffic.

1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:04.260
<v Speaker 1>So it's important to understand the conceptual framework Alex is

1:14:04.340 --> 1:14:08.040
<v Speaker 1>operating in here. This guy who federal agents killed has

1:14:08.080 --> 1:14:10.540
<v Speaker 1>to be blamed for his own death, because every other

1:14:10.590 --> 1:14:13.810
<v Speaker 1>conclusion requires you to re-examine whether or not ICE should

1:14:13.830 --> 1:14:17.099
<v Speaker 1>be operating how they do, And Alex, if he teases

1:14:17.140 --> 1:14:19.460
<v Speaker 1>that threat out, has to become an enemy of the state.

1:14:19.479 --> 1:14:21.500
<v Speaker 4>There's no other direction to go with it.

1:14:21.660 --> 1:14:24.080
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that makes his death in any way

1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:26.180
<v Speaker 1>debatable is the fact that he had a gun on him.

1:14:26.740 --> 1:14:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make the shooting justified, but it's the big

1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:32.300
<v Speaker 1>what about that the Trump media has chosen to latch

1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:35.059
<v Speaker 1>on to, as seen by so many members of the

1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:38.860
<v Speaker 1>administration and other media figures. It's the variable that makes

1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this an unfortunate accident instead of a murder. So a

1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:44.439
<v Speaker 1>guy with a gun at a protest is to blame

1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:46.940
<v Speaker 1>for their own death if the feds kill him. That's

1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the standard that we're starting with. But right off the bat,

1:14:50.470 --> 1:14:54.590
<v Speaker 1>it's clear that Alex wouldn't defend that. He's loved gun-toting

1:14:54.630 --> 1:14:57.950
<v Speaker 1>protesters in the past, and multiple times he's had guests

1:14:58.050 --> 1:15:01.250
<v Speaker 1>on his show only because they were on local TV

1:15:01.290 --> 1:15:05.550
<v Speaker 1>carrying big guns at protests against Obama. From that, we

1:15:05.610 --> 1:15:07.929
<v Speaker 1>learn that it can't just be the act of carrying

1:15:07.990 --> 1:15:10.050
<v Speaker 1>a gun at a protest that Alex feels is like

1:15:10.110 --> 1:15:12.470
<v Speaker 1>playing in traffic. where if you do it, you're to

1:15:12.510 --> 1:15:15.070
<v Speaker 1>blame for your own death. That means we need to

1:15:15.140 --> 1:15:18.719
<v Speaker 1>figure out what the variables are here that make it okay.

1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It seems like the next meaningful factor Alex goes into

1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:24.960
<v Speaker 1>is that the Democrats and globalists have raised the temperature

1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:28.860
<v Speaker 1>and created a dangerous environment. So if one side is

1:15:28.979 --> 1:15:32.390
<v Speaker 1>escalating and creating social unrest, then it's okay for the

1:15:32.430 --> 1:15:34.650
<v Speaker 1>feds to kill you if you're at a protest with

1:15:34.689 --> 1:15:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a gun. But this can't be Alex's position either. because

1:15:38.350 --> 1:15:41.370
<v Speaker 1>he was very aggressive about supporting the heavily armed trucker

1:15:41.430 --> 1:15:46.510
<v Speaker 1>protests during COVID. They were creating a very heightened dangerous environment,

1:15:46.630 --> 1:15:50.930
<v Speaker 1>and tons of them were openly carrying guns. Certainly, Alex

1:15:51.010 --> 1:15:53.309
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't just shake his head and say, oh, what a shame,

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:56.340
<v Speaker 1>if one of those protesters, one of those people was

1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:59.700
<v Speaker 1>killed because the feds got scared. The next thing Alex

1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:01.719
<v Speaker 1>seems to bring up is that there were people yelling

1:16:01.820 --> 1:16:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and this guy got killed. He put himself in the

1:16:04.700 --> 1:16:08.220
<v Speaker 1>center of things. This one is the easiest variable to

1:16:08.260 --> 1:16:11.800
<v Speaker 1>dismiss because that's just a guy exercising his First Amendment rights.

1:16:12.360 --> 1:16:15.740
<v Speaker 1>So Alex can't possibly think that that's what justifies his death.

1:16:16.570 --> 1:16:19.450
<v Speaker 1>So after we take in the rationalizations that Alex has

1:16:19.490 --> 1:16:22.270
<v Speaker 1>to offer, we don't really come away with any clarity.

1:16:22.900 --> 1:16:25.380
<v Speaker 1>We hope for some kind of actual explanation for why

1:16:25.420 --> 1:16:28.200
<v Speaker 1>this situation is different, why this is an instance of

1:16:28.220 --> 1:16:31.140
<v Speaker 1>the feds killing a citizen that's okay for Alex, whereas

1:16:31.160 --> 1:16:33.229
<v Speaker 1>in the past that would have marked the beginning of

1:16:33.229 --> 1:16:37.670
<v Speaker 1>1776 Part 2. And the unfortunate truth that you have

1:16:37.710 --> 1:16:39.809
<v Speaker 1>to come to is that the joke is on us

1:16:40.010 --> 1:16:42.290
<v Speaker 1>for imagining that there's a depth to the question at all.

1:16:42.770 --> 1:16:48.570
<v Speaker 1>We demand a depth because... the clown made us think that,

1:16:49.450 --> 1:16:51.800
<v Speaker 1>but the truth is Alex just doesn't believe that people

1:16:51.810 --> 1:16:53.219
<v Speaker 1>who disagree with him deserve rights.

1:16:53.350 --> 1:16:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:16:54.600 --> 1:16:55.340
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Yep.

1:16:55.500 --> 1:16:56.639
<v Speaker 4>On a rolling basis.

1:16:56.800 --> 1:16:57.020
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:16:57.320 --> 1:17:00.280
<v Speaker 4>On a, on a day to day. But I mean,

1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:03.000
<v Speaker 4>that is, that is kind of the, the truth of

1:17:03.060 --> 1:17:05.840
<v Speaker 4>the malignant narcissist psychopath.

1:17:06.000 --> 1:17:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:17:06.820 --> 1:17:10.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't really believe anybody else is real. So there's that.

1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:12.849
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I, I'm hip to that. And I think

1:17:12.860 --> 1:17:15.830
<v Speaker 1>that's great. No, I don't think it's great, but, It

1:17:15.890 --> 1:17:16.890
<v Speaker 1>can't be policy.

1:17:17.510 --> 1:17:17.750
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1:17:18.050 --> 1:17:18.970
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, it is.

1:17:19.070 --> 1:17:21.700
<v Speaker 1>We can't live in a world where that kind of

1:17:21.740 --> 1:17:24.160
<v Speaker 1>capriciousness dictates rights.

1:17:24.300 --> 1:17:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I know the, like, who determines who's a malignant narcissist

1:17:28.900 --> 1:17:31.170
<v Speaker 4>and who gets to determine who gets to do what

1:17:31.250 --> 1:17:35.189
<v Speaker 4>and what not, but... If, again, I feel like we

1:17:35.250 --> 1:17:38.750
<v Speaker 4>have created something of a Mendoza line in Alex. If

1:17:38.790 --> 1:17:40.389
<v Speaker 4>you do Alex shit, no.

1:17:41.210 --> 1:17:41.530
<v Speaker 3>No.

1:17:41.910 --> 1:17:45.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't even care. I don't even need to know details. No.

1:17:45.800 --> 1:17:47.540
<v Speaker 4>If you're doing Alex shit, no.

1:17:48.979 --> 1:17:49.420
<v Speaker 3>The end.

1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't argue with that.

1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:54.220
<v Speaker 1>I think it needs to be fleshed out, but no

1:17:54.260 --> 1:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>is a good response.

1:17:55.780 --> 1:18:00.170
<v Speaker 4>If Alex's never again law, anything that Alex does is

1:18:00.189 --> 1:18:00.750
<v Speaker 4>illegal now.

1:18:02.450 --> 1:18:04.940
<v Speaker 1>No one can drink water again. Look at me.

1:18:04.979 --> 1:18:05.559
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:07.840
<v Speaker 4>You're not going to drink water anymore. And then the

1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:08.820
<v Speaker 4>problem will solve itself.

1:18:08.860 --> 1:18:12.700
<v Speaker 1>Joke's on you. I drink Diet Dr. Pepper. Anyway, we

1:18:12.740 --> 1:18:17.950
<v Speaker 1>got one last clip. And it's just I think I

1:18:17.990 --> 1:18:20.769
<v Speaker 1>can't stand listening to this shot voice.

1:18:20.970 --> 1:18:21.650
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:18:21.790 --> 1:18:23.490
<v Speaker 1>And he's already made all the points that he needs

1:18:23.530 --> 1:18:23.870
<v Speaker 1>to make.

1:18:23.890 --> 1:18:23.970
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:18:24.520 --> 1:18:27.460
<v Speaker 2>This is an invasion to break our country. Cloward and Piven,

1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:31.040
<v Speaker 2>replacement migration on record. The Podesta plan is to use

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:32.360
<v Speaker 2>this to trigger a civil war.

1:18:32.680 --> 1:18:33.300
<v Speaker 3>We have them.

1:18:33.820 --> 1:18:37.800
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, I'll individually get on ice when somebody makes

1:18:37.820 --> 1:18:40.150
<v Speaker 2>a mistake or does something wrong, but they are responding

1:18:40.189 --> 1:18:40.850
<v Speaker 2>to the takeover.

1:18:41.130 --> 1:18:46.250
<v Speaker 3>They are the literal front line in the attempt to

1:18:46.290 --> 1:18:47.130
<v Speaker 3>take down this country.

1:18:48.950 --> 1:18:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Look at the thankless job the david versus goliath job

1:18:52.020 --> 1:19:00.420
<v Speaker 2>look at the attacks yeah they're warriors they're heroes And

1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:02.259
<v Speaker 2>some listeners want to say, oh, my God, you're sucking

1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the weenie of the police state.

1:19:03.220 --> 1:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not.

1:19:03.840 --> 1:19:06.840
<v Speaker 2>The police state is the Democrats and the left and

1:19:06.860 --> 1:19:08.940
<v Speaker 2>them wanting to take our kids and brainwashes and take

1:19:08.979 --> 1:19:11.309
<v Speaker 2>our speech. When you have illegal aliens run by the

1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:14.769
<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party committing mass crimes and the left telling their

1:19:14.790 --> 1:19:17.090
<v Speaker 2>people go out and riot, and we've still got men

1:19:17.170 --> 1:19:22.570
<v Speaker 2>and women willing to go out there and face this

1:19:22.750 --> 1:19:26.709
<v Speaker 2>attack to do their job, to get child molesters, arsonists, murderers,

1:19:26.810 --> 1:19:28.790
<v Speaker 2>bank robbers, carjackers on the streets.

1:19:29.530 --> 1:19:33.809
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you. I wouldn't take ICE's job because

1:19:33.850 --> 1:19:34.650
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you right now.

1:19:35.770 --> 1:19:37.850
<v Speaker 2>Somebody starts spitting in my face, hits me in the

1:19:37.870 --> 1:19:40.350
<v Speaker 2>head with a big old piece of ice, I go crazy.

1:19:41.430 --> 1:19:43.350
<v Speaker 3>Somebody rams my car, I wouldn't be as controlled as

1:19:43.370 --> 1:19:43.610
<v Speaker 3>they are.

1:19:43.870 --> 1:19:45.710
<v Speaker 1>Oh, good. You wouldn't be as controlled as the people

1:19:45.729 --> 1:19:46.830
<v Speaker 1>who just killed a guy.

1:19:47.030 --> 1:19:47.269
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:19:47.760 --> 1:19:49.860
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can be less controlled, but whatever.

1:19:50.540 --> 1:19:53.979
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is pathetic.

1:19:54.380 --> 1:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:19:55.810 --> 1:19:58.630
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I imagine this is exactly what it must have

1:19:58.650 --> 1:20:01.630
<v Speaker 4>been like to listen to a member of the Klan

1:20:01.689 --> 1:20:05.050
<v Speaker 4>talk shortly after they had just lynched an innocent dude.

1:20:06.010 --> 1:20:09.240
<v Speaker 4>Just like, yeah, well, they're all criminals and shit. And

1:20:09.260 --> 1:20:10.480
<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know they're not.

1:20:10.860 --> 1:20:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You know you're a murderer. You know what it's like?

1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:18.620
<v Speaker 1>It's like watching somebody who is too much of a

1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:22.110
<v Speaker 1>coward to admit that he's part of the Klan justifying

1:20:22.130 --> 1:20:23.849
<v Speaker 1>a lynching after it's happened.

1:20:23.870 --> 1:20:23.939
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:28.929
<v Speaker 1>Totally. Like, oh, they were under threat. You're right. Because

1:20:29.370 --> 1:20:31.750
<v Speaker 1>Alex is too much of a fucking coward to put

1:20:31.830 --> 1:20:32.349
<v Speaker 1>on the hood.

1:20:32.450 --> 1:20:32.630
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1:20:32.850 --> 1:20:35.990
<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm not saying, hey, there's some dignity in being

1:20:36.030 --> 1:20:38.140
<v Speaker 1>a member of the Klan or anything like that.

1:20:38.740 --> 1:20:40.640
<v Speaker 4>If that's the lesson you take away from this show,

1:20:40.900 --> 1:20:41.960
<v Speaker 4>good fucking luck to you.

1:20:42.020 --> 1:20:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no.

1:20:42.420 --> 1:20:46.010
<v Speaker 1>So Alex won't even own up to the fact that

1:20:46.050 --> 1:20:47.410
<v Speaker 1>that's where his heart is.

1:20:47.410 --> 1:20:49.850
<v Speaker 4>No, he'll say that the Klan doesn't even exist. You're

1:20:49.870 --> 1:20:52.010
<v Speaker 4>the one making it up. In fact, it's everybody else.

1:20:52.030 --> 1:20:53.490
<v Speaker 1>The Klan is the civil rights movement.

1:20:53.530 --> 1:20:56.100
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, the Klan is the Modesta people. And then they're

1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.400
<v Speaker 4>just trying to... Yeah, no, it is like.

1:20:59.880 --> 1:21:04.900
<v Speaker 4>If you are this, then not only... Do I not

1:21:04.979 --> 1:21:07.860
<v Speaker 4>think that you can make it back? I will also

1:21:07.900 --> 1:21:09.060
<v Speaker 4>not allow you to make it back.

1:21:09.240 --> 1:21:09.780
<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely.

1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:11.660
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, and not even like, I don't even

1:21:11.700 --> 1:21:15.010
<v Speaker 4>mean like become a better person. Fuck off. You are

1:21:15.050 --> 1:21:17.170
<v Speaker 4>a piece of shit. If you try and turn your

1:21:17.210 --> 1:21:19.310
<v Speaker 4>life around, I will come to your house and make

1:21:19.350 --> 1:21:21.380
<v Speaker 4>you feel like a piece of shit more.

1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:24.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, like you should for the rest of your

1:21:24.460 --> 1:21:26.000
<v Speaker 4>life be hounded.

1:21:26.780 --> 1:21:27.720
<v Speaker 3>And miserable.

1:21:28.100 --> 1:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, whether or not hounded and miserable is true, because

1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people need to be stopped and harassed.

1:21:36.189 --> 1:21:38.410
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm not going to hire somebody to do it.

1:21:38.470 --> 1:21:42.110
<v Speaker 1>Right. Here's where I want to agree with you.

1:21:42.210 --> 1:21:42.390
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:21:43.170 --> 1:21:44.110
<v Speaker 1>There isn't a road back.

1:21:44.470 --> 1:21:45.330
<v Speaker 4>No, there can't be.

1:21:45.570 --> 1:21:48.689
<v Speaker 1>There is no like this will be to the rest

1:21:48.810 --> 1:21:54.170
<v Speaker 1>of Alex's life for his legacy. I want to get

1:21:54.229 --> 1:21:57.070
<v Speaker 1>to the point where eventually he tries to change his brand.

1:21:57.130 --> 1:21:58.090
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:21:58.430 --> 1:22:02.050
<v Speaker 1>Because you can't. Yeah. And I think I just I

1:22:02.130 --> 1:22:03.290
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know.

1:22:03.590 --> 1:22:04.410
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:22:04.450 --> 1:22:06.910
<v Speaker 1>This can't possibly. I mean, it's obviously not the first

1:22:06.950 --> 1:22:10.670
<v Speaker 1>time that Alex is. had positions that were strongly counter

1:22:10.770 --> 1:22:13.290
<v Speaker 1>to his gun rights beliefs. Sure, sure, sure, sure. But again,

1:22:13.630 --> 1:22:19.300
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking flagrant. It's brazen. And as we're seeing, because

1:22:19.340 --> 1:22:23.340
<v Speaker 1>we're recording this on the 27th, the tide's shifting a

1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:27.500
<v Speaker 1>little bit. The Trump administration is starting to feel the

1:22:27.540 --> 1:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>heat a little bit about this one not being good.

1:22:31.280 --> 1:22:31.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll see.

1:22:32.270 --> 1:22:33.790
<v Speaker 1>So what does Alex do then?

1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:38.110
<v Speaker 4>Says that it's also smart for them to, here's what

1:22:38.150 --> 1:22:41.030
<v Speaker 4>you do. You say that it's smart to pretend to

1:22:41.070 --> 1:22:43.890
<v Speaker 4>take responsibility for this just to give them one and

1:22:43.910 --> 1:22:46.269
<v Speaker 4>then you can make them go away and yada, yada, yada.

1:22:46.350 --> 1:22:46.970
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're probably right.

1:22:46.990 --> 1:22:50.070
<v Speaker 4>This is a tactical move. It's a strategic move. It

1:22:50.110 --> 1:22:53.250
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean they're admitting guilt because they'll never admit guilt

1:22:53.290 --> 1:22:57.070
<v Speaker 4>for anything. And that guy should have been killed. But strategically,

1:22:57.360 --> 1:22:59.760
<v Speaker 4>the smart move is to give one to the mob.

1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:02.680
<v Speaker 1>We're going to find out if that is his take

1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:08.130
<v Speaker 1>on our next episode. But until then, fuck this shit.

1:23:08.250 --> 1:23:09.229
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:23:09.270 --> 1:23:09.950
<v Speaker 1>We have a website.

1:23:10.030 --> 1:23:11.549
<v Speaker 4>Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.

1:23:11.650 --> 1:23:14.030
<v Speaker 1>Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo.

1:23:14.060 --> 1:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm DZX Clark. I am the Mysterious Professor.

1:23:16.420 --> 1:23:17.660
<v Speaker 4>Woo! Yeah!

1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:18.860
<v Speaker 3>Woo! Yeah!

1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:21.700
<v Speaker 4>Woo! And now here comes the sex robots.

1:23:21.939 --> 1:23:23.780
<v Speaker 3>Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

1:23:25.900 --> 1:23:26.439
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Alex.

1:23:26.550 --> 1:23:27.370
<v Speaker 2>I'm a first-time caller.

1:23:27.410 --> 1:23:28.190
<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge fan.

1:23:28.270 --> 1:23:29.010
<v Speaker 4>I love your work.

1:23:29.170 --> 1:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I love you.