1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I always knew it was an extreme religious order because 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: it was a place where you could really give yourself completely. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: That was part of the attraction and part of the culdishness. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: I suppose. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: From a cocoa punch and iHeartMedia. This is the turning 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: the sisters who left. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: I was a senior in high school and I saw 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: a cover of Time magazine and there was this face 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: of this wrinkled nun with a white veil with blue stripes, 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: and she's had these eyes. And I read about this 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: not in Calcutta, who was doing these fantastic things with 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: taking in dying people and caring for them. 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: I heard about Mother Teresa growing up. I knew about 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: her work with the poor, her Nobel Peace Prize, her sainthood, 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: but I didn't know who she was, her personality, her toughness, 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: her resilience, her inner suffering. After talking to the women 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: who worked alongside her, I feel like I'm starting. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: To When I saw her, something struck me. There was 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: something about her. There was a force, a power, a presence. 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: She would look right into your soul, into the depths 21 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: of your soul. 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm also learning what it was actually like to be 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: in her fiercely private religious order, one that sees suffering 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: is the path to Jesus. For some of the women 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: who left, this life was not what they'd imagined. The 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: order was wired that you had very little time to think. 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: You're only getting input from one soulce you osco lighted 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: from everyone else. That's what I mean by Brian washing the. 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: Voice of God for you. That's all they keep saying. 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Under your valve obedience right, no matter what it is, 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: and they use God as the weapon. 32 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: I wanted to go home, and I'm a little bit 33 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: surprised looking back that I didn't just go and I 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: regret that now. But I must have been controlled from 35 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: the inside of it. 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: You could not have a friend. This was specifically prohibited 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: if you got too close to somebody. It was really 38 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: you were playing with fire. 39 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: If you make a lifelong vow, what does it mean 40 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: to break it? 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: By this time, she was quite old, and she came 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: and she found me, and she brought me to her room, 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and she says, what is this mother hears about you? 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: And at a certain point she says, mother could believe 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: this about anyone, but she cannot believe it about you. 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: America Lance. And this is the Turning The Sisters who left. 47 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: A new podcast from ro Cocoa Punch and iHeartMedia. Listen 48 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 49 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: your podcasts.