1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to The Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show our two And like I said 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: in the last hour, Claire and I are both really 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: curious if you are a Republican mid term voter who 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: split the ticket, because we have a lot of day 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: to go, but that has been sifted through and analyze 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: at this point that shows if you don't have Republican 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: ticket splitters in Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania, Republicans take 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the Senate, the red wave happens. Republicans also take the 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Arizona and Pennsylvania governor's races. This is just by the 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: numbers of people who voted. So if anyone wants to 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: share out there with us, are very curious to hear 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: from people that felt that was the right move for 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: them under the circumstances. We also have of after the 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Trump Superhero NFT situation, but we see Henry Cavill will 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: no longer be the actual movie Superman anymore. I did 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: see that that was trending. People were pretty mad about that. Yeah, 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: what did you think about his performance as Superman that's 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: not He's just not I think he looks the part obviously, 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: but not good Superhan Superman movies made with Henry Cavill. 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it, they were not very good. 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: The Christopher Reeves original Superman movies are way better, way 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: better movies. A Superman one, Superman two other Christopher Reeves 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: was a great Superman. But anyway, so Trump had these 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: NFTs out, but he actually has also put out some 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: Remember what was I saying the last hour, focus on 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the focus on the platform, the message, getting it done 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: and winning. And I already got some mess of people saying, 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: oh but Peter, who are you? Well that's actually what 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Trump has now decided in the last hour He's going 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: to start doing today. I don't know if he's listening 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: to the show, but we have some policy stuff to discuss. 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Now what I ask for I said, hey, maybe Trump 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: to do some policy things today. And guess what, he 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: just did put out some policy So see, we're coaching 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: our side as best we can. Here here is Trump 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: announcing his free speech platform for twenty twenty four executive 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: orders that he will sign. He just put out this 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: video on truth Social play twenty seven within hours of 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: my inauguration, I will sign an executive order banning any 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: federal department or agency from colluding with any organization, business, 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: a person to censor, limit, categorize, or impede the lawful 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: speech of American citizens. I will then ban federal money 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: from being used to label domestic speech as miss or disinformation, 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: and I will begin the process of identifying and fire 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: ring every federal bureaucrat who has engaged in domestic censorship. Second, 48 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I will order the Department of Justice to investigate all 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: parties involved in the new unlined censorship regime, which is 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: absolutely destructive and terrible, and to aggressively prosecute any and 51 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: all crimes identify. I think, Clay, this is This is 52 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Trump recognizing that without free speech, you can't have free elections. 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Absent true, meaningful free speech, we don't live in a 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: free society. The biggest threat to democracy is not what 55 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: a relative handful of people did on January sixth. It's 56 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: what big tech, big media, and their Democrat allies did 57 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: to censor debate in our country. Here's my issue. He's 58 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right on all this. Buck who's advising Trump? 59 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Most people are not going to see what we just 60 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: played you. Today, Trump put out a six or seven 61 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: minute statement nailing this issue of First Amendment restriction of 62 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: the unholy alliance between big tech, big media and the 63 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. He did it on the same exact day, 64 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: within a couple of hours of releasing these superhero NFTs. 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: So your point, I think was an astute one. In 66 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: the first hour, the media cycle is all going to 67 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: be focused on the relative paucity of seriousness of these NFTs, right, 68 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: whatever you think about them, and they're going to miss 69 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: this the steak, right, the sizzle gets the attention instead 70 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: of the stake. Now here's the thing. What Trump did 71 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: so well in twenty sixteen and a lot of times 72 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: very well in twenty twenty two buck twenty twenty as well, 73 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: was he was able to give some substantive like this 74 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: First Amendment policy, but he also had some sizzle on 75 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: top of it to draw in everybody to pay attention 76 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: to what he was doing. That's showmanship element here. He's 77 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: diluting his policy perspective on the First Amendment, which is 78 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right with the sizzle that has nothing 79 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: to do with it, which is him standing around in 80 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: these artificial NFTs. Basically, how would you even describe this 81 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: like photoshopped imagery that they're selling for ninety nine dollars? 82 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Why release these things on the same day? In other words, 83 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: it just seems like a huge mess. So I will 84 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: just say this. We were talking last hour about who's 85 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: advising him right now, and I would take this as 86 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: a moment to show you and I come on here 87 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: and we say we're Trump voters who like the guy 88 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: and think that he's done amazing things for the country, 89 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and think that he was a very good president. But 90 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: dropping these NFTs and saying it's a big announcement was 91 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: not a was not a strategically sound move. Okay, it's 92 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: just not correct. So people can get mad and say, oh, 93 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: but why are you playing into their hands? Because an 94 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: hour later he does exactly what we're saying Trump should 95 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: be focused on. That is an admission from inside the 96 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Trump camp. Oh okay, we shouldn't have done the NFT 97 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: thing today. We should have done the speech executive orders 98 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: thing today. That is why they are doing this. So 99 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I just I just want ever to be clear. You know, 100 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: we can all sort of sit around and look at 101 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: everything that Trump does in this process of winning the 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: Republican nomination and just say all of it is great, 103 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: or we can say, hold on a second. Trump's got 104 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: great things to say on free speech, Let's get him 105 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: on that issue NFTs another day. I know this is 106 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: just I think being fair minded about what we're seeing 107 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: unfold in this campaign. Also, Buck, it may be indicative 108 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: of two different divergent groups advising him. And let me 109 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: explain what I mean by this. Commerce aka, hey, let's 110 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: make money is certainly a big part of Trump. I 111 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: get it. I'm a businessperson too much less successful than Trump, 112 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: but I get the entrepreneurial aspects. I get the goal 113 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: to continue to be able to build businesses that matter. 114 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: That may be one side of the conversation that's going on, 115 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: and that's the NFT, that's like, let's put out these 116 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Trump these Trump NFTs non fungible tokens, basically baseball card 117 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: like digital events. And then on the other side, you 118 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: have the policy team and they're saying, hey, now is 119 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the time for you to put out your First Amendment 120 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: policies and what you will do if you are in office. 121 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: They may not be talking to each other, and so 122 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you end up canceling each other out because on the 123 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: same day you're putting out two contradictory messages. One is commerce, 124 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Let's have fun, haha, look at Trump dressed up like 125 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: a superhero. The other one is very concrete First Amendment. 126 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is the best Trump is when 127 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: the sizzle meets the steak. Here we have the sizzle 128 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: colliding with the steak. Nobody's going to notice this First 129 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Amendment discussion. It's going to get almost no attention in 130 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: the mainstream press. Well, everybody's going to be trying to NFT. 131 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: We will. We're trying to give some attention right now 132 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: because I think it media is not covered. Oh no, 133 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: of course, but I'm saying, you know this, so this 134 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: is why I think it's incumbent upon us. So here 135 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: he is again from the statement that Trump just put 136 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: out in the last hour on right now Twitter. As 137 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: we all know, this is massively important. Want to talk 138 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: about winning elections, having a free speech platform, a social 139 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: media platform that allows for issues ideas candidate Remember, candidates 140 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: were being shadow banned, my friends. Candidates for office were 141 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: being uh surreptitiously blacklisted. Essentially, it was almost like a 142 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: covert action program against some of these candidates. Of course 143 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: they're all Republicans. This stuff really matters. Here's Trump saying again, 144 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: just re lease in the last hour that you should 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: need a court order to take down some of this 146 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: online content that's been shadow band play twenty eight. The 147 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: time has finally come for Congress to pass a digital 148 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Bill of rights. This should include a right to digital 149 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: due process. In other words, government officials should need a 150 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: court order to take down online content, not send information 151 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: requests such as the FBI was sending to Twitter. Furthermore, 152 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: when users of big online platforms have their content or 153 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: accounts remove, throttled, shadow band, or otherwise restricted, no matter 154 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: what name they use, they should have the right to 155 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: be informed that it's happening, the right to a specific 156 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: explanation of the reason why, and the right to a 157 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: timely appeal. When I am president, this whole rotten system 158 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: of censorship and information control will be ripped out of 159 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: the system at large. There won't be anything left. By 160 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: restoring free speech, we'll begin to reclaim our democracy and 161 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: save our nation. One hundred percent right, Bucky, He's one 162 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent right, and this should be the story of 163 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the day, not him standing in ridiculous outfits that he's selling. Right, Well, 164 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I just want to sense why isn't you know, because 165 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say that I 166 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: don't think that there are people advising Trump that listen 167 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to the show, because you and I both know there are. 168 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Every week from now until it's official that you know 169 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: he's the Republican nominee, or at some date in the future, 170 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: there should be one. There should at least be one 171 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Trump video five minutes long where he's just like, these 172 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: are the key issues, this is what I see going on, 173 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: and really get into it, really provide that context, and 174 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: you know, do it on truth social if you're not 175 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: going to do it on Twitter, but show people the 176 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: seriousness and the dedication to not just winning, which is 177 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: obviously critical, but to fixing the country Again. What was 178 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: it all about in twenty sixteen, fixing the problems and 179 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: speaking for the forgotten men and women of America. Get 180 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: back to that, and this thing is gonna the rocket 181 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: ship starts to take off. When that happens. Yeah, it's 182 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: about discipline and about planning. I mean, he's one hundred 183 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: percent right on all of this. None you guys are 184 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: hearing it because we're gonna share it with you. None 185 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: of the media that needs to hear this, none of 186 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the independent voters that need to hear this, none of 187 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: the squishy Trump Republicans that need to hear this, by 188 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: and large, are going to ever know that he put 189 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: this out because right now the number one trending topic 190 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: is the NFTs these kind of silly digital photos of Trump. 191 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, his announcement has a good sense 192 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: of humor. It's clearly designed to be fun and funny, 193 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and he gets it. But why would you conflate these 194 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: two things, the serious and the funny almost simultaneously at 195 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: the exact same time, this thing breathing on its own. 196 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Trump really kind of laying out a policy that he's 197 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right on as it pertains to digital 198 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: freedom and the ability of people to share their opinions 199 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: and not be banned for them. And what's the number 200 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: one thing that I've said I'd like to see from 201 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: Elon Musk. I think that every time the government buck 202 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: makes a request to censor an account or to pull 203 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: down what someone has said online that should be public, 204 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: some of it's justified. Some of it's true, but we 205 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: should know as citizens what is the United States government 206 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: attempting to keep us from seeing? Because I think that 207 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: will mean that they are far fewer censorship requests. Trump's 208 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: rite about this, it's going to get drowned out by 209 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: all this craziness associated with with the NFTs. Yeah, and 210 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: in the meantime, I'd like to see the people in 211 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: this Biden white House owned their mistakes. Even this week, 212 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it. With the news on inflation, they 213 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: make a big deal that inflations gone down from seven 214 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: point seven to seven point one percent, not acknowledging that 215 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: it was seven point one last November or one point 216 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: two the year before that. But it actually takes some 217 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: guts to make an admission about failure. 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If we move on quickly, 242 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: it's not because we're not interested in your opinion. It's 243 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: because we're trying to get as many different opinions as 244 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: we can. Let's go first to Travis down in Valdosta, Georgia, 245 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: down on the border close to Florida. For those of 246 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: you who don't know Valdosta, you were in the state 247 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: of Georgia. What did you see, Travis? All Right? First off, 248 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Georgian Republicans are hard Georgian Republicans. There's no Georgia Republican light. 249 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: We go back decades in decades, and we love herschel Walker. 250 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: We all know that we have fallen shore of the 251 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: glory of God. Everybody makes mistakes, but we as a body, 252 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I believe saw through the Democratic talking points in the 253 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: mud slinging, and I think you would be hard pressed 254 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: to find a Republican in Georgia, irregardless of the Democratic 255 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: talking points and the pundits who said we split tickets, 256 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: I think you would. Okay, let me let me just 257 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: tell you though, Travis. I appreciate, I appreciate the call, 258 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. I don't know if anybody in 259 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: media who worked harder to get herschel Walker elected than me. Right, 260 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I was with the Georgia Republicans. 261 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: The data reflects though, Travis seven out of eight statewide 262 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Republicans one and they won big. Brian Kemp won by 263 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: almost eight points over Stacy Abrahams. That wasn't a close election. 264 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: Brad Ravensburger, the Secretary of State in Georgia, one by 265 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: almost ten. These guys won up and down the ballot 266 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: by big margins. The data reflects that many people did split. 267 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: Now you can say those aren't diehard Republicans, and we 268 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: can have a conversation about that. But my suggestion to 269 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: you would be if you vote seven Republicans and you 270 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: flip and vote one Democrat, that's an interesting decision. And 271 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: that's what the data reflected. That's why Herschel lost. So 272 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: why is that and how do we get Because there's 273 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of focus buck and you know this on 274 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: oh those independents or those Democrats. What I'm saying is 275 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: if you look at the data from twenty two, you 276 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: look at the data from twenty two, if Republicans had 277 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: just been consistent on their ballots. I'm not talking about independence, 278 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Democrats. Republicans would have won every 279 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: race that was tight. And so that also goes to 280 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: when people say, well, you guys thought there was gonna 281 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: be a red wave. Why wasn't there a red wave? 282 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: That's probably the single bit that the two reasons you 283 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: can point you why there was not the red wave 284 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: that we had hoped for, Because there were the red 285 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: votes necessary for a red wave three point popular vote 286 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: majority for Republicans in twenty twenty two. What happened, Republicans 287 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: in key places split their tickets and Republicans outperformed in 288 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: a handful of states that didn't actually result in victories 289 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: because places like for example, New York, they did well, 290 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: but the votes weren't in the right places, in the 291 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: right states to get the victories that we needed. But 292 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: the ticket splitting issue was massive in Arizona, in Pennsylvania, 293 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: and in Georgia. Massive. I mean, if you look at Congression, 294 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: if congressional Republicans could translate their votes at the same 295 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: percentage to the governor and Senate races. Senate race there 296 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: we would have Oz would have won, even Mastriana would 297 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: have won. Monstriano didn't come close to winning. No, it's 298 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: a big discussion point. We'll continue to take your calls 299 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: roll through this Thursday edition of the program. Appreciate all 300 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: your patient want to tell you business owners are scoring 301 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: a win with the irs. Refund program are available to 302 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: small businesses. 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People really want to talk to us about 320 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: the topics of the day, and that obviously includes the 321 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: recent statement put out by former President Trump on free 322 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: speech and social media online, so we will get into that. 323 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Also interesting that we're seeing now a lot more movement 324 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: toward banning TikTok, I mean, banning TikTok, a social media 325 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: platform that you would not be that has millions and 326 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: millions of users in this country, that would have the 327 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: government just saying not allowed anymore. I mean, essentially kick 328 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: it out of America. That's a that's a strong move. 329 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: So we may want to get back into a conversation 330 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: on that a little bit. But that's just been breaking. 331 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: In the last couple of days. More and more state 332 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: governments are banning the use of TikTok or the downloading 333 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: of the app on their device. Know how that would work? Buck, Like, 334 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: how do you can you think of anything that has 335 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: been banned on the Internet that actually is able to 336 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: maintain that band? I mean, it's not there's nothing inherently 337 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: illegal about TikTok, right, This isn't TikTok isn't being used 338 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: as part of a conspiracy to sell people legal drugs 339 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: or something. It's you know, it's not like the Silk 340 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: Road or whatever. That dark website was, right, it's it's 341 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: this isn't interesting. I mean, I'm not as as quick 342 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, well, the Chinese are able to 343 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: spy on everything. Everybody's doing it? Well, really, like, how exactly? 344 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm just saying I 345 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: want to know how that is, because, Hey, everybody, if 346 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: the government can just shut down a social media platform 347 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: because they say it's like really bad for you know, 348 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: reasons that are unspecified, what else can the government just 349 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: shut down for unspecified reasons that are just really bad. 350 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: Think about the precedent. It's a literally I'm here a 351 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans, Oh, it's China is gonna spy on you. 352 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: He's China spying on us. Is this stuff kept on 353 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: US servers? Can we monitor if it's kept on US 354 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: servers or if it's transferred any other sort? You know, 355 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: I just want more information. I see it's a lot 356 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: of people are oh, TikTok to Chinese spying up. Okay, maybe, 357 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: but everybody should know why because the government just saying 358 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: this app no longer exists in America when millions of 359 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: people are using it, I think we should have a 360 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: more robust conversation about this, because I do look at 361 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: the slippery slope and I do realize that it is slippery. Also, 362 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: it's weird, buck because at OutKick we got a video 363 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: band that was talking about what we discussed on this show. 364 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, the Frisbee Golf Association has banned transgender athletes, 365 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: that is, men who identify as women. So we had 366 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: one of our employees doing a TikTok video discussing that, 367 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: and TikTok bandit, which is a super woke decision to 368 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: make because they said it was threatening transgender people or something, 369 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: just discussing that news here. By the way, this is 370 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: where we have this actually representative Gallagher saying that TikTok 371 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: is like digital fence a nul Let's play clip six. 372 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: It is time that we do something to stop TikTok 373 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: from becoming the most powerful media company in America because 374 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: the fundamental problem is that TikTok is owned by Byte Dance, 375 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and Byte Dance is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. 376 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: That's why FCC Commissioner Brandon Carr has called it digital fentanyl. 377 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: Is highly addictive, and ultimately you can trace it back 378 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: to the CCP. The issue is not just that the 379 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: CCP via byte Dance via TikTok can track your location, 380 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: contract your keystrokes, can compile a dossier on you. The 381 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: issue increasingly is that a lot of young Americans get 382 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: their news from TikTok, which will allow TikTok to censor 383 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: news according to the dictates of the Chinese Communist Party. Okay, 384 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: so one thing is clay if they do ban it, 385 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know some people, I know some people. 386 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Can we clone the TikTok app, call it something else 387 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: based in America? Because this is going to be the 388 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: most popular social media app. I mean Twitter for a conversation, 389 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: but I mean TikTok. It is addictive. By the way, 390 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: they said the same things about Facebook and Instagram years ago. 391 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: This is not anything that's new. I think it's there's 392 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: a lot going on. Who's banning it? How is it 393 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: being banned under under what PreTect? So could we just 394 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: create a TikTok competitor in America that's US based and 395 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't run into this problem? Or is the problem that 396 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: it's so addictive because people also said that about TV 397 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: in the fifties, Like I want to know what the 398 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: lines are here. I know my kids and many kids 399 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: out there use TikTok now like it's Google, So it 400 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: is by far the most popular. If you've got kids 401 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: who are let's say, between the ages of you know, 402 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and twenty, they're on TikTok more than anything. Buck. 403 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: My one question that I would have for lawmakers, because 404 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: I do think it's intriguing the Chinese aspect here, how 405 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: about a policy. And I'm just tossing this out there 406 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: that if China bands American tech companies from being able 407 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: to exist in their country, I don't I believe I'm correct. 408 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: I know Twitter is not allowed in China, and I 409 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: believe Google is not allowed in China. Correct. I think 410 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm correct in that right. Yes, I was in China 411 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: and had to leave my cell phone behind because of 412 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: all this. Yeah, okay, So if China can ban American 413 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: owned tech companies in their country, why not just say, hey, 414 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: our general proposition is we're not going to allow Chinese 415 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: based tech companies access to our audience when you don't 416 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: allow American companies access to yours. Because our big tech 417 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: companies read a lot of checks to politicians in America 418 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and the big tech companies want access to the Chinese 419 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: market in whatever way they can get it. As we know. 420 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: I get that, but I'm just saying if if Google 421 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: and Twitter are not allowed, Yeah, I agree with your premise. 422 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the reason that that's not happening, 423 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: and that hasn't happened yet, and I think it'd be challenging, 424 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: is because you got to you gotta follow the money 425 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: on this. Anyway, the TikTok thing I find interesting just 426 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: because I feel like people are going along with this 427 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, we us need to ban this app. 428 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well under what authority? What are the 429 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: reasons could we reconstitute a competitor to TikTok? Because this 430 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: is obviously right. Imagine a Facebook was the fastest Imagine 431 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: we go back to like circa two thousand and five, 432 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. Facebook is revolutionizing social media, and 433 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: they say, well this is banned. Wouldn't you want to 434 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: build the next thing? You know what I mean, Let's 435 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: build a version of a Right about the business opportunity, 436 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: I also just don't know about how would it work. 437 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there are lots of TikTok influencers making millions 438 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: of dollars right American based kids, you know, college kids 439 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: and a little bit older. So how do you ban 440 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: a site like this? Like, I just don't know, Like 441 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: I can't. Kids are smarter with technology buy and large 442 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: than most adults are. I feel like they would find 443 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: a way to get on TikTok. And then what are 444 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: you gonna do if someone continues to use the app? 445 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Are you going to arrest them? Like I feel like 446 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of thought about what this. I 447 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: think your precedent point is oppression one. And I also 448 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: feel like it's almost impossible to ban something that is 449 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: super popular. Well, I just want to know for example, 450 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: and this is what comes up in in my mind 451 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: right away. And maybe this is going too far. We 452 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: will get your calls, by the way, if you're in 453 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a hold that I know, we've got everyone a lot 454 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: of people fired up about what's going on right now. 455 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: But I just say this on TikTok. If the premise 456 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: is this is dangerous because we say so, why can't 457 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: a Democrat administration say truth Social is way too involved 458 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: in insurrectionist talk and you know, YadA YadA, YadA, truth 459 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Social is gone now I'm just wondering Twitter, why if 460 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: they don't take the way that Evon is running Twitter, 461 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: why could they not say this is a misinformation source. Now, 462 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's because it's American owned and that's the difference. 463 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that's their argument, but it is a slippery slope 464 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: to set the precedent of we think this could be dangerous, 465 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: so we're going to ban it. I mean, and if, 466 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: by the way it's at TikTok will allow the Chinese 467 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Communist Party to get through Apple security to implant you know, 468 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: surveillance software or whatever, well we should know about that. 469 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if China's that good at what they're doing 470 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: right now that they can get through all the all 471 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: the different security procedures, and imagine what happened if if 472 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: we expose that, if we find out that that's actually 473 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing, we should know that too, right. So 474 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I just I feel like everyone's just going, oh, yeah, 475 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: it's Chinese Communist Party. First of all, the bigger danger 476 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: to your freedom everybody is Google hate to break it 477 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: to everyone. The much bigger threat to your actual free 478 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: speech and daily freedom rights is a US based company 479 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: out of Palo Alto called Google. It is actually we 480 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: know what has already been rigging elections in favor of 481 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Democrats as opposed to the potential danger that could come 482 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: from the Chinese. By the way, let me go to 483 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I want to get one call in here, Buck before 484 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: we go to break Louise and suffer County New York 485 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: out on Long Island. Louise, what you got for us? Well? 486 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I am at the Ultra Maga store 487 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: located in Ronkonkoma at the America's warehouse. And UM, I 488 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: have kind of a bone to pick with the two 489 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: of you. Um. Do you feel that the conservative media 490 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: had something to do with the loss of the recent election, 491 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: because all you guys kept saying was, Oh, there's gonna 492 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: be a red wave, There's gonna be a red wave. 493 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: And I know you two are part of that. Um. 494 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: And I think if you would call the Algore syndrome 495 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: where Democrats stayed at home and they didn't vote for 496 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: al Gore, Um, do you think that that had something 497 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: a part to play in why we lost? Yeah, so 498 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I understand that argument. Louise. What I would say is, 499 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: if you go back and look every time we talked 500 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: about what the poll. First of all, the polls were 501 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: very close. Right, we won fifty one forty eight statewide, 502 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean nationwide popular vote. That is, Republic Wilkins won 503 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: fifty one to forty eight nationwide the popular vote for 504 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two overall elections. Right. Second part of that, 505 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to us every time 506 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: we talked about that, we wanted a red wave, I 507 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: wanted a read tsunami. We didn't get it. I'm super disappointed. 508 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I said, make sure that all of you vote, because 509 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: this could come down and is likely to come down 510 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: to a few thousand votes in many of these competitive elections. 511 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: I think said that dozens of times saying this is 512 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: good key races will come down to hundreds, perhaps thousands, 513 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: but perhaps even hundreds of votes. We can go back 514 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: and pull times where I said there are more people 515 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: listening right now on stations, on small stations and parts 516 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: of these states, then will be the difference in victory 517 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: or defeat. And that was the truth. So I help it. 518 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I certainly am. I understand that people can be upset, 519 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: and I it's like I told you, Buck, it's like 520 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: a sporting event. When a team loses, everybody wants to 521 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: find somebody to blame for why things didn't go as 522 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: they wanted it to. I don't know, because I thought 523 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: about this a lot. I don't know how we could 524 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: have used our platform to have been more helpful in 525 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty The number of candidates we had on 526 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: who were in close races. Everyone in a close race 527 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be on the show as often as they 528 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: could possibly be on the show. That's right. We couldn't 529 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: even schedule them enough on the show. They wanted to 530 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: be on the show out all the time. And look 531 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: you the one that we won. Ron Johnson won by 532 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: twenty six thousand votes. I think you can say this 533 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: audience in particular helped to get Ron Johnson across. I 534 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: wish we had been able to win more close races, 535 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think we could have done more. 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We get closer and closer to Christmas. 564 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you go subscribe to the Clay Travis buck 565 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Can search out my name Clay Travis. You 566 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: can search out buck Sexton also as Elon Musk allows 567 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: us to actually say what we think on Twitter. Encourage 568 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: you to go follow at Clay Travis, at buck Sexton 569 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: and at Clay and Buck because I think you'll find 570 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: it a lot more enjoyable. Oh, the conservative media landscape, 571 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: the renaissance of social media for us that's going on 572 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: right now is a great thing. And look at you 573 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: don't have to tweet for everybody out there. It's a 574 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: really Once you get in the habit of it, you 575 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: follow some people, it's a really easy way to catch up, 576 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: see some thoughts, stay stay in the news cycle, and 577 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: like anything, you want balance. You want to be scrolling 578 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: through Twitter for hours and hours at a time, but 579 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: if you have five minutes you just want to sort 580 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: of catch up and see what's going on. It's way better, 581 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: way more efficient and more interesting than you know. Turn 582 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: it on a local news broadcast for five minutes. I'll 583 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean, it's just you know, 584 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: it's just a whole different, different category. Clay, I got 585 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: something I gotta blow your mind with right now. By 586 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: the way, Oh, what's up? You know how yesterday we 587 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: talked about how the New York Times said that John 588 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: Fetterman is a fashion icon. Yes, did you know that 589 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: John Fetterman is a movie star? This is real. This 590 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: is recently in a movie. John Fetterman, before he was 591 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: running four Senate, was in a it's actually I believe 592 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: a series, but a big budget Netflix series starring Christian Bale. 593 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. It actually looks pretty good, 594 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I know, speaking role, Like what is his role in 595 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: this is not clear quite yet, but Christian, it's a 596 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: movie set and I think the mid nineteen or no 597 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: the like late nineteenth century, like eighteen seventies at West Point, 598 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: eighteen seventies, eighteen eighties. I think it's about a murder. 599 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: But he thought that Fetterman's physique and face I am 600 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: not kidding, really spoke to the tone and feel of 601 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: this movie in this period. So John Fetterman before this 602 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: is before the hoodies in the Senate run when he 603 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: was mayor of Braddock. They were filming something there and 604 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Christian Bale got to know him from when he was 605 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: the mayor and then invited him. It's called The Pale 606 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Blue Eye. I'm going to tell you this. Carrie like 607 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: mentioned something to me and I kind of looked at it. 608 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, honey, like are you tired, Like 609 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: you're talking crazy talk here. She's like look it up, 610 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: and I did. And The Pale Blue Eye, which comes 611 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: out in January on Netflix. It's gonna be in theaters too. 612 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a movie. Then it's I don't think 613 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: it's a series. It's a movie. Has John Fetterman in 614 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: like a somewhat prominent role playing a guy in a tavern. 615 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, man, it's a crazy world we 616 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: live in. I think Christian Bale is one of the 617 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: finest living actors. By the way, he's incredible. I could 618 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: see Fetterman, honestly, with that ridiculous goatee in the shaved head, 619 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: like if they put him in eighteen seventies or eighteen 620 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: eighties attire, like he would look like somebody who could 621 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: live in that era. That doesn't he doesn't look like 622 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: a guy who would be like, you know, at a 623 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: forge hammering the hot you know, medal or something. You know, 624 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: he could you could see it. Have you ever been Blacksmith? 625 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: There you go. Have you ever acted in any kind 626 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: of production? Uh? Not since? Not since Grammar Squan. I 627 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: played myself about a decade ago in the Blue Mountain 628 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: State Um Show, which is like kind of a comedy 629 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: around college football, and we did skits sometimes back in 630 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: the day for our sports gambling show that was on 631 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: FS one. I say this, in all truthfulness, I may 632 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: be the worst actor on the planet. I'm good if 633 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: it's just natural, like, hey, you're just gonna be you. 634 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: But as soon as you tell me that I have 635 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: to memorize lines, I deliver them so inauthentically that I 636 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm not good off a script. But 637 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: I was curious if he's speaking Fetterman, because we know 638 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: Fetterman can barely speak now, like I. Actually, this is 639 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: also before just to be this is before the stroke, 640 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: so long time ago. So this is a couple of 641 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: years ago. I think they tape this and yeah, John 642 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: Fetterman is in a big budget movie with a real 643 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: role and Christian Vale is on the record saying that 644 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: he thinks Fetterman is perfect for it. So Fetterman is 645 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: a senator, a fashion icon, and a movie star. Clay, 646 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, what the world is a crazy place. 647 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: He actually has not one, not two, but three jobs, 648 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: three more than he ever had before