1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: I was just going to ask if you overlapped with 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Lambias and all in Maryland. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: I did. 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I did. 5 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: And for the young guys that that didn't hear the 6 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: story or if all they've heard of the stories, all 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: I can tell you is they were true and and 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: it hurts to this day. Man Leonard was kind of 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: like a Lebron before Lebron just physically gifted, physically looked different, and. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: He was. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: He was unbelievable. I have a picture of my basement. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: It's a black and white photo of him like three 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: and three four four maybe pushing it, but at least 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: three feet off the ground, straight up in the air, 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: with Jordan with his hand in his face. And there's 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: a there's an old, grainy YouTube video that you can 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: find of a game where it was Jordan and Carolina 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: and Leonard and Maryland. And it's an old game, it's 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: not the modern game. So there's ten dudes in the paint. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of a mess. But when you watch it, 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: the guy in the blue jersey no one can stop 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: is obvious. That's Michael, and the guy in the light jersey, 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: no one can stops obvious, and that's Leonard and I mean, 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: he was going to go to the Celtics when they 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: had Bird and all all that, like that whole group 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: Michale Parish, dj Age, et cetera. And I've wondered forever 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: if he went there, would that have changed the whole thing? 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: Because the Pistons, the Celtics delayed the Pistons. The Pistons 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: delayed the Bulls. Right, what if Leonard goes to the 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: Celtics and then nothing, none of it happens because he's there. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he was that kind of talent. And 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: obviously what happened happened. And knowing Leonard, the thing I 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: always make a point to say is he died of 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: a drug overdose. He was not a drug fiend. He 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: died because he didn't know what he was doing. And 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: it's a cautionary tale. You know, it was a different time, 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: it was the eighties, but what happened was a tragedy, 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: and it was a tragedy magnified by the fact that 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: that was not who he was. And so yeah, I 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: mean he was he was larger than life, you know, 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean you guys at Nova like larger than life 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: stars at a small school, being who you were I'm 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: sure it was a big deal, but like Leonard was 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: like a comic book character. Man, he just was so 45 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: physically different and so obviously different in games in the 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: ACC which was so loaded back in the day. So yeah, 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: it's just being on campus and being like a bunch 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: of my really good friends were on the team, and 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean, to this day, you still just shake your 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: head and you wonder. It's one of the greatest what 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: ifs of all time in my opinion, in the NBA. 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: On that note, what was what was the hardest story 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: you ever had to cover? 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: I remember being in the studio the night DeMar Hamlin 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: on a Monday night game took that shot and hit 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: the ground, and immediately I knew something was wrong because 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know the way the medical personnel move 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: if there's if there's someone's in distress, right, and that 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: was obvious he was in distress. And we came on 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: the air that night and I didn't know if he 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: was if I was going to report that this young 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: man had literally died on a field in front of us, 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: and we had no script, We had no information really, 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: and the Monday Night crew like Joe Buck and troyk 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: whan we've done it forever. There's only so much they 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: can do, and so the game is canceled. They throw 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: it to our studio and I have no idea, right, 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: and I end up basically sitting with Ryan Clark and 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: the two of us just all but prayed on the 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: air because it was all we knew what to do, 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: that this somehow that this young man was going to survive. 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: And that was in real time, trying to be calm, 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: trying to be measured, sharing what I knew, but not speculating, 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: because you know anymore the way if you got a 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: phone in your hand. I mean, we see with these 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: stories that happen, people just they've already come to the 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: conclusion of what hap and why it happened. It's like, 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: you don't you don't know, and I didn't know, So 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: what I refuse to do is guess. But I'm on 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: the air. I want to say, we were on the 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: air for like an hour and a half without a commercial, 82 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: and that's a long time to be talking about something 83 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: this heavy. 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: So that was difficult. 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: Anytime there's something that's that's tragic, that's really challenging. But 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: in the same way I talk about you guys being 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: human beings. Like that's what I always try to remember 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: and keep at the forefront when whenever you're covering anything, 89 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: whether it's a tragic accident or an injury, or an 90 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: athlete does make some mistake, it's going to cost him something, Right, 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: you try to put at the forefront of my mind 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: that these are human beings. And if I was proud 93 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: of what we did that night, but moments like that 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: are really heavy because it's it's this great reminder that 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: all this is is entertaining and fun as it is. 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: Is that and then this is a guy who we 97 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: didn't know if he was going to make it, and 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: thankfully you know he did and he's still very much 99 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: with us and still playing in the lead and all that. 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: But that was that was a heavy night, being in 101 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: the middle of the coronavirus like woj broke it live 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: that Utah, like go Bear, they were an okay, see, 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: that was a wild night. That was another circumstance where 104 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: you're like, you're the one sharing it with the audience, 105 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: and I think, and I hope that the audience trusts 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: that I'll be reasonable in those moments. But those are 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: the kind of nights when the real world comes crashing 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 3: in on the fun that we typically have. That again, 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: I just try to lean into be calm, be measured, 110 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: say what you know, don't guess what you don't, and 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: your audience hopefully can be informed by you rather than 112 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: have the you fan the flames by guessing about shit. 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 114 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 115 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? 116 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: All right? The season is given, real playoffs is going 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: to be here before we know it, and Dordash is 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: basically the third member of this friendship. Sorry, Matt, hit 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: that door, dash up, and stay in your back early 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: because Josh definitely won't share. 121 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: So that's crazy, real crazy. But also I gotta say 122 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: it's true players got their bags, but fans that got 123 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: theirs too, and Desk keeps in mind, Elite snacks out 124 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: in shout out to Mic and Nikes drinks ready gear 125 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: fresh enough that I look like I'm wearing in a 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: tunnel fit. Even when I'm walking into Jalen's. 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: House, bro shows up like it's a runway and he's 128 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: just here to watch film. Just kidding. Josh doesn't even 129 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: watch film. Meanwhile, if my team drops a close one, 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: DoorDash already knows I need dessert immediately my group, Jack 131 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: goes silent, Josh included, but DoorDash always pulls through. 132 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: That's because I'm busy rewatching. The highlights are like twelve third. 133 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: You don't watch highlights well. 134 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: You know it goes, you're up late, you need chips 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: or like something random. 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