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Speaker 1: back to another episode of the Mets the Podcast. Episode

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Speaker 1: number ninety five, presented by the seven Line, just wrapped

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Speaker 1: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 1: the Podcast. Episode number ninety five, presented by the seven Line,

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Speaker 1: just wrapped up a disappointing What is Up Mets fans,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Metsu Podcast. Episode

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Speaker 1: number ninety five, presented by the Seven Line, just wrapped

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Speaker 1: Without further ado, the boys are together. Here's James.

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Speaker 2: Here's James very good. Also Mark de Metro.

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Speaker 3: We have a prospect report at the end of this

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Speaker 3: episode two first one about two weeks, so that for

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Speaker 2: But just I don't know, mildly.

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Speaker 3: Disappointing series in the Bay Area against the Giants. You

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Speaker 3: He shouldn't have won that. Series three one felt like

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Speaker 2: The Giants are a good team. We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: the Giants a lot. The fact we got these games

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Speaker 3: Definitely, just the fact that we don't have to go

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Speaker 1: I think no belts, Yeah, no belt. Belt's a big

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Speaker 1: And especially when Jock Peterson, as we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: Because of that conversation that Jock and Bonds had, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Jock said that Bonds bestowed like hitting

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Speaker 1: And if you told him it was anything else, if

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Speaker 1: What He's pounded the strike zone like he was, because

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, when we're previewing this Phillies and we're not

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna talk bad by any Phillies.

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Speaker 1: I will not. Man, that's so tough.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how I feel by the end of this episode.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I said Brandon Crawford was not playing well,

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Speaker 1: just like Jack Peterson wasn't playing well. These are statements

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Speaker 1: Becoming six innings in modern baseball is massive. Yeah, five

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Speaker 3: And he was also incomplete control the entire night, especially

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Speaker 3: He had eight whiffs on it from Monday on, sixteen swings,

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Speaker 3: he got Evan Longoria with a few of them, a

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Speaker 1: Along with the fastball command it it makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: It makes a difference. And again mentioned the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Think like, clearly someone saw something at some point David Peterson.

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Speaker 2: He didn't look like a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: But if he's pitching like this, whatever Jeremy Heffner is

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Speaker 3: I've had some choice warris for Peterson two in the past,

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Speaker 3: That's a guy who will get to the major leagues

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Speaker 3: But this heckler told Jeff McNeil he has no legs

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Speaker 1: But that's what you get when you watch a guy

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's that's how you win. They knocked

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Speaker 3: He is basically unluckiest pitcher in baseball right now. No

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Speaker 3: friend Drew shout out not the expert on YouTube. He

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Speaker 3: was like, Wow, that pitch is unbelievably straight. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is unbelievably straight. That's like a very enviable fastball

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Speaker 3: in the game, and the ghost, like I want to say,

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Speaker 3: almost kind of catalyzed the rally that the Mets would

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Speaker 3: have soon after.

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Speaker 2: He just he didn't make it any worse.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty dominant now four strike guys in two

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Speaker 3: thirds innings. He gave up a few hits and a

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Speaker 3: walk I think or two, but nowhere runs. It was

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Speaker 3: just he kept the game in a spot where you

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Speaker 3: thought it was possible something could happened, just basically because

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Speaker 3: of the Mets magic so far this year, and just

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Speaker 3: didn't like it out of hand and maybe even did

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Speaker 3: show us something that he could be a factor in

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Speaker 3: this bullpen or even as a long man, as a

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Speaker 3: spot starther as a piggybacker during this next month that we'll.

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Speaker 1: Be trying, all right, James, I got a trivia for you, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Who was Steven Negosik traded for Boston Red Sox. He

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Speaker 1: came from the Red Sox who the Mets trade to

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox or Stephen to Gosick Addison Reid Addison Reid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd never thought I'd hear that name again. He was

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Speaker 1: also just to talk about him for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He was so good when he was with the Mets.

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Speaker 3: He was sick, unhelded reliever of his time. He had

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Speaker 3: good stuff those two years of the Mets twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, he helped really push the Mets towards two major,

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Speaker 3: major postseason runs.

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Speaker 1: I'll just never forget. If you guys are watching on

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Speaker 1: the YouTube video, after he was done, he would always

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Speaker 1: take his hat and like barely wear it on his hat, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just like walk off like he just like ran

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Speaker 1: a marathon, like he was exhausted. The dude gave it

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Speaker 1: his all and he was pretty lights out, which was

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Speaker 1: nice to see, and especially.

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Speaker 2: The twenty sixteen run.

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Speaker 3: He was actually one of the best relievers in baseball

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Speaker 3: over the second half of that year.

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Speaker 2: Never forget Adison.

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Speaker 1: Reid Aison Reed for sure, and hey, thanks for Steven

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Speaker 1: to ghost because we might have found another bullpen arm here,

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Speaker 1: which is something that if you go on Mets Twitter

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Speaker 1: you would hear we have no bullpen, We got no arms.

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Speaker 1: The sky is falling.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do

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Speaker 2: with this bullpen?

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. We're finding little little pieces here, like Stephen Negosik,

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Speaker 1: little Colin Holderman, by no means that they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: our high leverage guys.

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Speaker 3: Will Jake Reed, Little Jake Reed, love a little Jake Ree,

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Speaker 3: Well Dons Medina, Little Donsmi Litt.

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Speaker 2: Joe Eli Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: We I know these guys aren't going to be the

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Speaker 1: high leverage dudes, but that's what ends up making a

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Speaker 1: really good bullpen is when the fifth sixth inning guys

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Speaker 1: or the sixth seventh best reliever is actually still a

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Speaker 1: good reliever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Guess guys, out believers are a persecuted class in the

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Speaker 3: baseball world and someone has to stick up for them

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Speaker 3: and defend them. And a guy like Stephen and a

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Speaker 3: Goosik in this game, when you're down eight to two

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Speaker 3: and your starting pitcher only gave you not just your

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Speaker 3: starting pitcher you're currently best starting pitcher, your actual ace

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Speaker 3: right now only gave you four and thirds innings and

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Speaker 3: you give eight earned to go two and two thirds

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Speaker 3: and drag this game to the seventh inning on his back.

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Speaker 3: That's monumentaling port and I'm sure it did spark this team.

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Speaker 1: What other podcast would just go off about Steven Dagosik

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Speaker 1: being a valuable piece. I don't see no other podcast,

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Speaker 1: And like you said, he kind of sparked this comeback

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Speaker 1: because it felt like this team was done. It was

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Speaker 1: eight to two. They chipped back a little bit here

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Speaker 1: and there got it to eight to four.

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Speaker 3: Well that was after Franciscal Lindor to run Homer. But

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Speaker 3: there's also like a nonsense game before that, Like Keith

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Speaker 3: and Gary were doing the thing late night. They were

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Speaker 3: just talking about nonsense. I think Keith's brother popped into

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Speaker 3: the booth for a half a second.

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Speaker 1: I missed that.

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Speaker 2: If he did, it was somebody who was I think

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Speaker 2: was in the family.

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Speaker 3: I was on Discord and I was writing some notes

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Speaker 3: for first Pitch podcast I was doing. But there was

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Speaker 3: somebody in the booth who was silent, who was with Keith,

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Speaker 3: and he was wearing Mets stuff and the woman with

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Speaker 3: him was wearing Giant stuff.

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Speaker 2: I know Keith's family. I believe Dust live INDR in

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Speaker 2: California there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But it was just one of those games with

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Speaker 3: these guys, you know, Gary Keith getting little wacky late

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Speaker 3: at night and in blowouts. But Francisco Lindor, like I

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Speaker 3: just said, hit to run home run the seventh to

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Speaker 3: make it eight to four, and Gary said out loud, huh,

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Speaker 3: I remember another game where a Francisco Lindor home run

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Speaker 3: that scened benign led to something, And this fucking guy

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Speaker 3: was right.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't have hit the nail on the head any better,

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Speaker 1: because that's exactly what seemed to push the Mets forward.

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Speaker 1: So when things went crazy all of a sudden, McNeil

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Speaker 1: escobar kana hits, I mean, everything was sneaking through.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy that we found a way to talk about

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Speaker 3: this game for almost ten full minutes before it even

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Speaker 3: really theoretically started.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the game of the year, even though

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Speaker 1: we lose this game, This is the game of the

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Speaker 1: year Major League Ball, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen runs scoring the final three innings year fifteen runs,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna tell you about them right now.

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Speaker 1: It felt very much like that World Series game between

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Speaker 1: the Astros and the Dodgers, where it's just like back

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Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Granted it

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Speaker 1: wasn't back and forth to the last few winnings.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: This team doesn't die. This team does not give up.

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Speaker 1: You even saw it a little bit in Game three.

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Speaker 1: They were still playing hard guys, running out ground balls

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Speaker 1: and down nine to one, Jeff McNeil crashing into the walls.

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Speaker 3: Travis Shankski a diving catch, yeah, dives calling door and

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Speaker 3: dribbler back to the mat. We're talking about game three

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Speaker 3: because we're not really going to talk about that much

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Speaker 3: at all. But he busted his ass out of the

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Speaker 3: batter's box and a dribbler back.

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Speaker 2: To the pitcher.

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Speaker 1: He literally said to you outlauds ye man. He really

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Speaker 1: busted on a ball that just he could if he jogged,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said a word. I wouldn't have cared.

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Speaker 1: But that's the things that you notice, and it's definitely

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Speaker 1: on Buck. That's definitely a Buck Showalter thing. It's definitely

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Speaker 1: these guys want to win games. They're not giving up.

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Speaker 1: And you saw it literally come through fruition again in

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Speaker 1: game two with just they kind of willed this one.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a little bit every single player chipped in.

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Speaker 3: You can't need every single player chip in when you

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Speaker 3: get said, I thing twelve or thirteen meant to battan

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Speaker 3: inning like the Mets did. But Jeff mcneild, one of the

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Speaker 3: West guare Markanna all hit singles put Dom Smith up

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Speaker 3: as the tying run in a big spot for a

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Speaker 3: guy who has really needed to show his worth to

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe the stick on this roster for a little longer.

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Speaker 3: And he hit a squeaker up the middle, wounds up,

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Speaker 3: scoring two. Now he had first and third, none out.

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Speaker 3: Luis Yurmey his soft ground ball the first, which turned

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Speaker 3: out to be kind of the most disappointing player of

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Speaker 3: the end, where Marcanna got caught like kind of dancing

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Speaker 3: off third. It was a play where with nobody out

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Speaker 3: and there's a ground ball hit to the right side,

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Speaker 3: you're like, all right, I'm busting on contact, but because

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Speaker 3: it's Luis Kyormy, they're playing in Yeah, and it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like you said that, like no man's land, where

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's such a hard you either have

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Speaker 3: to go on contact or you have to go back.

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Speaker 2: And he did a little bit of both.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he danced a little bit and he kind of

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Speaker 3: just shuffled off the base like you took a nice

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Speaker 3: secondary lead, but he got caught kind of like dirty

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Speaker 3: feet away from home and just kind of froze like

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Speaker 3: a deer in the headlights, and even staying in the

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Speaker 3: rundown long enough to get more men's scoring position, so

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Speaker 3: were very rare mental mistake from usually a very good

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Speaker 3: fundamental player Markanaha.

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Speaker 2: But then it didn't even matter.

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Speaker 1: That's what's the crazy part is I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: ever again, there's a lot of people that are in

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Speaker 1: panic mode. This is like so opposite of what all

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Speaker 1: old Mets teams have done in the past. Like you

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Speaker 1: watch this game and you I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: could get in panic mode watching this game, because to me,

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Speaker 1: this is everything of going guys, this team is really good.

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Speaker 1: This proves this team is really good. The fact you're

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Speaker 1: able to come back from this. This isn't the first

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Speaker 1: time of the year, of the year either, Cardinals, Phillies,

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Speaker 1: Like this is something that the Mets are almost never

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Speaker 1: out of a game.

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Speaker 3: Really good and really confident and just seemed to really

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Speaker 3: believe in themselves. Like even the situation like we had

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Speaker 3: this rally and it was nice, but someone made a

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Speaker 3: mental error and you're down two runs with men on

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Speaker 3: first and second and went out. That's not a situation

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Speaker 3: where you'd really expect your team to come storming back,

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Speaker 3: especially against a team like a Giant who has a

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Speaker 3: good bullpen, who has a lead and who has a

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Speaker 3: reliever on the mountain, Tyler Rogers, you haven't really been

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Speaker 3: able to.

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Speaker 2: Get to you in two years.

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Speaker 1: No, but it feels like the Mets, I mean they

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Speaker 1: didn't really hit him well for a little bit of

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Speaker 1: obvious hits where kinks and doinks. Oh wow, we finally

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Speaker 1: got some of those, which was nice to see. But

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Speaker 1: you know, Neimo infield single Martee smoked one off of

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Speaker 1: Kevin Padlow, another hard ground ball rough off the chest,

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Speaker 1: because again the Giants don't really prioritize corner defense even

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Speaker 1: in the infield.

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Speaker 2: It's also it's also the hockey playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Padlow made nice, nice day, say with the pads

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Speaker 3: there and also Evan Longory was out of this game

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Speaker 3: with a jam shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a little bit more of a short hand

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Speaker 2: at their base.

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Speaker 3: With Kevin Padlow, who hits the ball pretty hard, game,

637
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Speaker 3: hits the ball hard, He's gonna be that sneaky giant

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Speaker 3: this year. You're gonna look at him in August be like,

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Speaker 3: how's Kevin Padlow Fourteen home runs and two eighty bad average?

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Speaker 2: What's gonna happen? It's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But that was a big play, awesome hometown scoring, gave

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Speaker 3: Starling Marte hit on that non ax they really yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well because if you look at the startling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Keith was talking about it too, that he actually

645
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Speaker 3: did support that call because you're playing on a corner

646
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Speaker 3: like that and you get that really awkward in between hop.

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Speaker 3: Basically I don't remember the second hop of the first top,

648
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Speaker 3: but it was basically an unmakable play unless your Matchameranolan Arnado,

649
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Speaker 3: even them, I think will struggle with it because the

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Speaker 3: hop came like four feet in front of him and

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Speaker 3: just carramed completely off his chest, and he did a

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Speaker 3: good job and actually putting his body in front of

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Speaker 3: it like a lot of weaker willed men would have

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Speaker 3: let that ball.

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Speaker 2: Who yeah, over the shoulder. That's a scary ball.

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Speaker 3: And that keeping that ball in the infield only allowed

657
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Speaker 3: the Message score one run there and now we had

658
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Speaker 3: eight to seven, still won out in the basis load

659
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Speaker 3: for Francisco Lindor, who isn't.

660
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Speaker 1: Good right, No, he's he's really bad at Carvil baseball.

661
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: Bad baseball, but not worth it for the team. Not

662
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: worth it makes it team worse. I think you got

663
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Speaker 1: probably yeah right, yeah, no, of course we don't think that,

664
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Speaker 1: because we're not fucking idiots. Sorry, if you do think that,

665
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: you just this is the barometer of knowing baseball. I

666
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: know this is mean to say, but if you think

667
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Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor is bad, I don't know what else we

668
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: can tell you. He had a huge series and he

669
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: had one of his bigger met moments as well in

670
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Speaker 1: this game where he hits the triple down the line,

671
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Speaker 1: Jack Peterson.

672
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Speaker 2: Who God, I don't even like mentioning his name right now.

673
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: He falls basical clearing triple and like all of a sudden,

674
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: like ten dight, Yeah, we're winning ten date Francisco Lindoor

675
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: huge for the Lindor legacy.

676
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: Fourth, fifth, and sixth RBIs this game of Francisco Indoor.

677
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: And it was also kind of funny that at this point,

678
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 3: if things would have held, Jack Peterson would have been

679
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: like he would have undid all the goodness year or

680
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: had already done this game, he would do significantly more later.

681
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: But a guy hits two home runs but then makes

682
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: a catastrophic misplay in the outfield too allout three runs

683
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: to score, and but the man still on third base

684
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Speaker 3: with less than two outs.

685
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Speaker 2: He would have been a.

686
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: Guy who probably looked himself in the mirrorsk the game

687
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: be like I fucked up. I mean like this is

688
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: something I'm disappointed in myself, and did kind of feel

689
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: like that for a little while because even after this,

690
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: Pete hit an absolute rope off. I think this was

691
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: now Camille Deavall in the game after Tyler Rodgers had

692
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: given up seven earned runs and the third of the

693
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Speaker 3: ven inning, which that felt really.

694
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Speaker 1: Good to do that Tyler Rodgery, because that guy's thrown

695
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: seventy five miles an hour forever and we finally hit

696
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: him one time, which is nice.

697
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: But whoever was in the center field I think it

698
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: was Louis Gonzales for them made actually a very nice

699
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: snag on a ball that I thought was going down

700
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Speaker 3: for extra bases as well.

701
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Speaker 2: Keep this rally going.

702
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: We had eleven to eight game and we've still got

703
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: two more hits after this, and there were two outs

704
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: nobody on. McNeil and Eskomark each got their second hits

705
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: to the inning.

706
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Speaker 1: YEP, and we were feeling great. We were like, wow, yeah,

707
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: talk about two great comebacks. You're like, how do you

708
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: have losing three?

709
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? How do you?

710
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: How do you lose this in May. That's how we

711
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: kind of felt now, is we can't lose this one.

712
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: And Drew Smith got two quick outs, yeah, and then

713
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a little single by Mike Yu Stremsky,

714
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: a bad walk to Darren Ruff.

715
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Speaker 2: With two outs.

716
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: Second time, Darren Ruff drew a two out walk in

717
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: this game that led to a Jack Peterson home run.

718
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be probably the biggest discourse that we have,

719
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: the biggest discussion it's gonna be about Buck Showalter's handling

720
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: of the sitting, because I think he was one hundred

721
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: percent right. Drew Smith's our guy right now. Drew Smith's

722
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: been in money all year, and while he has gotten

723
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: given up the long ball a little bit recently, there

724
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: is literally no reason that he should be facing Jock

725
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Peterson zero.

726
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't care.

727
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: If Rew Smith is clicking on all cylinders. He's not

728
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: in Diaz one, he's not, and even then Edwin Diaz,

729
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It depends the situation.

730
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: Especially if he just gave up a hit and walked

731
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: the guy. You probably still need to go to Joellie there,

732
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: because that's why we haven't been especially with Brandon Crawford

733
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: up next. I don't know how Joelie is not the guy,

734
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: and I know Buck after the game said, Drew Smith's

735
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: our guy who's been good. I wanted to go with

736
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: who we thought was best in that situation where or

737
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: who we think is the better pitcher, but the matchup's

738
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: just wrong.

739
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: Didn't you also say something like I wanted him to

740
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: get through it?

741
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's kind of like that is back to

742
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: this old baseball adage where like, we gotta make sure

743
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: our guy feels like the glory of getting out of

744
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: this inning. But why you even make a trade at

745
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: the end of the offseason then to get an extra

746
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: lefty on this roster when you're not gonna put him

747
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: in a situation where you have a fearsome lefty hither

748
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: at the plate who's already has two home runs in

749
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: the game, and your pitcher on the mound just giving

750
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: up two base runners. And also on top of that,

751
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: Buck did mention that he didn't want to bring in

752
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: Joelli for Jock because then the Giants with a pinch

753
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: hit Evan Longoria next.

754
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: But with that, there are two outs in the inning.

755
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: If you're thinking you get if you get the hitter out,

756
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: who's at the plate. That's not even an issue at all,

757
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: and you have to assume if you're making a pitching

758
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: change or going to do it to get the hitter

759
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: at the plate out. And even more, on top of that,

760
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: Evan Longory didn't start this game, so there wasn't and

761
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: it was reporting he had a shoulder and they were

762
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: actually considering an il stin for him, so that turned

763
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: out to be patently false.

764
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: He had the two home runs in Game three, but as

765
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: much information as the Mets had, you almost would have

766
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: been surprised if that happened.

767
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: And just and this, it's.

768
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Speaker 2: It's also a thirty five year old Evan Longoria.

769
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: Again. I know he hit the two runs the next

770
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: game against a lefty, but Joeli, we know, doesn't really

771
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: give up that much hard contact either.

772
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: I just to me, you gotta get Jock Peterson.

773
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: You gotta give him. You can't give him an advantage,

774
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: because that's what they did. The Mets, instead of choosing

775
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: to give Evan Longoria an advantage, chose to give Jock

776
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Peterson an advantage. And to me, that's backwards, especially because

777
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Brendon Crawford's next, So it doesn't why not give him

778
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: that extra guy to pitch to you. I don't get it.

779
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: Also, I even think you're going into his a little

780
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: too deeply, like probably yeah, because one of the hitters

781
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: is at the plate and one of them is in

782
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: the dugout.

783
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Yes, So the only one you should care about at all.

784
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 3: Guess the exact moment is the guy hitting who already

785
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: has two home runs and represents the tying runs like.

786
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Trying to play chess when you should be playing checkers.

787
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: Like theoretically, he Buck hilariously kind of underthought it while

788
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: overthought it at the exact same time, Bucks underred job

789
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: of the team. This team has made a lot of

790
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: advancements this season. I think you have to attribute a

791
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: lot and Buck Showalter. But this bullpen stuff with Buck

792
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: is something that we were worried about previously and has

793
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: shown to still be an issue this year and something

794
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: that I hope gets figure out. Yeah, because there's just

795
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 3: no reason that you're left handed. I'm not gonna him

796
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: left handed specials because he gets right he's out. Yeah,

797
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: But you're I would say, best left handed reliever who

798
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: has been hot, who's brought in for these exact scenarios.

799
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: This exact thing like if this was one. So though,

800
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: don't you think they would have brought Joellian You have to, right.

801
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: But but but the way that he was describing it,

802
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: it seemed like it didn't matter who was up to

803
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: the plate.

804
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: And this is also like the Smith.

805
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: It was also the exact situation where this was one.

806
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: So like three weeks ago, and they did bring Joellian

807
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: in a there was a man on first and that's

808
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: winning a boy either two or one run in the

809
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: seventh or eighth inning of a game against the Nationals,

810
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: and they brought him in with two outs just to

811
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: get one.

812
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: So when he got it out and handed the ball

813
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: right to Edward Diaz.

814
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: It was not good baseball from a process standpoint. We're

815
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna bring back process here, Yeah, it was.

816
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: It was a bad process. I want to see Drew

817
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: Smith get through. I want to see Drew Smith get

818
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: through it too. Drew Smith is one of our favorite

819
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: players the Messed Up Podcast, even through his struggles so

820
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: far with the home run ball. But it's just who

821
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: gives you the best chance to get this out in

822
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: the situation, especially especially.

823
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: With Jock is scolding hot on that you've seen him

824
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: hit two home runs already off days, off righties with ease.

825
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I just there's no world where it makes sense to me.

826
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't, I can't, it doesn't compute. I don't understand it.

827
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: And I really really hope this isn't the trend, because

828
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: that's a bad trend.

829
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

830
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: Also because right after this home run, Joelle did come

831
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: in the game, yeah, which almost at that point seemed

832
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: like what why, And then he did get into trouble,

833
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: almost in no fault of his own, because Joelle just

834
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: seems like maybe he has an armslot to get squeezed.

835
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: He was throwing strikes left and right, and hopefully umpire

836
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: brother Artis, who had an awful game. Yeah, one of

837
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: the worst games of an umpire the season, especially not

838
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: in terms of actual miscalls, but in terms of the

839
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: expected run value he gave to another team and used

840
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: to the umpire report.

841
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: No I didn't see it was like plus one point

842
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: seven to the Giants.

843
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, geez.

844
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: But he three men immediately got on base with a

845
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: walk and a couple of soft singles if I remember

846
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: correct play.

847
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: Adam Alavino had to get a big strikeout to end.

848
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: The inning, so that also changed the course of what

849
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: wound up happening in the next inning, which we'll talk

850
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: about a few minutes to where now this top of

851
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: the Giants order is going to come up again?

852
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Did? I literally tweeted it out when I saw Jock

853
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: come up to the plate in the ninth I go,

854
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: how is he up again? How was he at the

855
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: plate again?

856
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: This?

857
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: This shouldn't have happened.

858
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at this point the Mets dig it out

859
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: of the ending in a high game and Tom Smith,

860
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: who had a very good game, probably his best game

861
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: of the whole year, even better than that four hit

862
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: game against the Phillix. This was I think another four

863
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: hit game, at least a three hit game, four hard

864
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: hit balls for Dom. Best one of the night was

865
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: a triple that he laced deep into the San Francisco

866
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Night to Triples Alley to put himself on third base

867
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: with nobody out. Patamska Hillo Dunker tried the playbook of

868
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Didn't work out this time, but Brandon

869
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: Nimo clutched up with two strike pitch had a nice

870
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: sacrifice fly where Jack Peterson made a real throw, herculean throw,

871
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: really on a ball that he didn't even seem to

872
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: have a great handle of and he didn't really do

873
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: the proper like get behind the crow hop thing.

874
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: He put the ball on a line to the catcher.

875
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Speaker 1: You want to He just hit his fucking third home

876
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: run of the night. It was hi high off adrenaline.

877
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just sit your third home run

878
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: other night, you could probably throw the ball at far.

879
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Too probably three home runs, ef, I could proably throw

880
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: the ball like that.

881
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: But now we're a situation where you have another lead

882
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: after Drew Smith just gave it up and you got

883
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: into more trouble and felt like you weren't even going

884
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: to escape that eighth for the chance to win the game.

885
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: You had it again, and all you needed was Edwin

886
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Diaz to pitch like he has all year and get

887
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: out of an inning.

888
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: And Wilmer jumped on that first pitch fastball, smoked it

889
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: up the middle. But then we got a sick, sick

890
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: double play in the whole from Jeff McNeil turns it

891
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: with Lindor. I got out Tommy Lastella. I believe, who's

892
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: just not running insanely slow. He's a slow human being.

893
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: He has an Achilles thing right now, so he's capable

894
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: of hitting and moving laterally against a little bit playing

895
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: defense somewhat regularly, but he can't really run at full speed.

896
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Okay, that makes sense.

897
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: He's crushing the ball.

898
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: He is crushing the ball. Yes, that's time, New Jersey

899
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: guy shout out to New Jersey. But yeah, nice double play. Yeah,

900
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: and even edwin at the hit time. I think we

901
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: probably both felt as one oh the games.

902
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: In the bag that just got turned said after the game,

903
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: Y's what felt like it was over?

904
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think that might have been why you saw

905
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lapse there. Yeah, because there's

906
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: a two outwalk to Yas. It's kind of something that

907
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: we talked about to remember when we're like the wind

908
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: kind of gets sucked out of him at times. And

909
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: I've even said this going back now, Diaz needs those trumpets.

910
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: He needs to be in that World Baseball Classic mode

911
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: where he's empty, because it seems like if there's ever

912
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: a time where there's maybe not maybe not as much pressure.

913
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the terminology is.

914
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: It's almost like an analogy that people use for hithers

915
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: more often, where it's like you can't think about anything.

916
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to clear your minds and just get

917
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: out of it, Edwin.

918
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: It seems like he does clear his mind when the

919
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: pressure is hot and when it's really on.

920
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: But now that he.

921
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Gave himself a second to breathe, he almost like thought

922
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 3: too much and he's just stopping able to place his fastball.

923
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I bet you probably go back and probably see

924
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: him go like this, and it's almost like that deep

925
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: breath is what made him lose focus, like because he

926
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: should hold his breath. Yeah, he should not be allowed

927
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: to take a breath until he gets the final out

928
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: of the game.

929
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: But we're not, like I say, not allowed because that's

930
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: becoming like his torture territory.

931
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Vande Shaul.

932
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: At least like make sure itself stays hot because he

933
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: gave out a two outwalk to he has which you

934
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: hate to give it team in two out walk when

935
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: you have him dead and buried, Darren ruff Hill a

936
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: little single right through the hole, right through the hole,

937
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: and now you have Jack Peterson back to the play.

938
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: The Man on Fire hit his sixth hard hit ball

939
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: of the game, only the fourth player ever to do

940
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: that in the stackcast era, the first to do it

941
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: this season. Hit went right back up the box base

942
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: hit tied the game, and then immediately immediately Brandon Crawford

943
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: put one through the hole and the game was over.

944
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was over. Of course, Brandon Crawford coming back,

945
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: both of them coming back to haunt us badly in

946
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: this game too. There was some talk about maybe intentionally

947
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: walking Jock, which.

948
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: I definitely don't agree with that because in the situation

949
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: where you're winning by one run and their runners on

950
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: first and.

951
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Second, I want to move a guy thirty sixty or

952
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: ninety feet closer.

953
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: Also, you just can't put the winning run scoring position,

954
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: because it's still If Brandon Crawford.

955
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Hit that single, you still would have lost. Same thing

956
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: would have happened.

957
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean there was some talk there about

958
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: should you have walked him, should you have done a shift, like,

959
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: should you have just played straight up?

960
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: Whatever it was.

961
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I think I think the game really does come down

962
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: to that Joelli decision, which sucks because I hate making

963
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: small decisions. Because there were other things that happened. We

964
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: did get the lead and we did blow it again.

965
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: Comes out down to that Jowelle decision, but also comes

966
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: down to three two out walks given up by Mets pitchers,

967
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: between Chris Bassett before the second Jack Pierson home run,

968
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: Drew Smith before this single that ended up leading to

969
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: the third Jack piers and home run, and then Edwin

970
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 3: Diaz giving the Giants life when they were dead and buried. Yeah,

971
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: three two out walks that all led to Giants fronts.

972
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: Even those last two rallies by the Giants and the

973
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: eighth and nine thing were all started with two outs

974
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: and nobody on base.

975
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: And it's still crazy about this.

976
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: We almost won this game twice. We almost won this game.

977
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Imagine going into a game and saying, Chris Bassett's going

978
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: to get shelled, Drew Smith's gonna get shelled, and Edwin

979
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: Diaz is going to get shelled, and you almost win.

980
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: I also think that if this game did go to

981
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: extra innings, we still had Seth Lugo in the wings

982
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: and the Giants had already burned Rogers and Camille Davalla.

983
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: I think they still had dominic Leone though.

984
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I think so because they pitched Brebia I think in

985
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: the ninth. Yeah, but I'll take that Lugo over dominic Leoni. Yeah,

986
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: all day, all day.

987
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: It sucks.

988
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: That game was disappointing, painful, but I wasn't mad by

989
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: any means because they turned the game that they should

990
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: have gotten, you know, the doors being off of them,

991
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: into a game that they almost won.

992
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't mad at all. I was just kind

993
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: of like tired after it. Like that was an intense

994
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: baseball game. To be a part of it, it was like, damn,

995
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: I say up till two am for this? Yeah, literally,

996
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: like you just stay up that late on Tuesdays anyway,

997
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: because I record the First Pitch podcast. But I was

998
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: just like, how can I even talk about other baseball

999
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: games right now?

1000
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it was.

1001
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: It was very, very tiring, and then you could kind

1002
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: of almost see that it maybe played into Game three

1003
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: a little bit too quick turnaround next day came out

1004
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: a little bit flat. But it also didn't help that

1005
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: Thomas the Pucky just got shelled. I mean it was

1006
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: a poop fest, which we're saying poop fest a little

1007
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: bit too much for my liking.

1008
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: Now want a serious Yeah, once happens, once a serious.

1009
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: People are using it on Twitter, which I love. Really Yeah,

1010
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: I got a couple of poop fest dms and mentions

1011
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: to the hell yeah poos a poop fest, poop fest

1012
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: it was z A Pucky probably just a reliever really,

1013
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: if we're gonna be honest, if nothing else, I mean,

1014
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: maybe it's just the team, like the Giants, especially during

1015
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: the day when it's hot and the wind is blowing out,

1016
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: it's not the best for guy like Thomas A.

1017
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Pucky. His fastball did look okay though, when he hit

1018
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: ninety seven right ninety seven. The slider looks like it

1019
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: moves plenty like curveball. That's his big pitch.

1020
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people, though, who honestly myself

1021
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: was included, who thought that he probably wouldn't even make

1022
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 3: it through the forty man roster crunch of the offseason.

1023
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: The fact that he did mean is they.

1024
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: Probably have something, and the results in Triple A this

1025
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: year were objectively good. Maybe next week against the Nationals,

1026
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: we're gonna see Thomas A. Pucky actually get guys out

1027
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: and pitched more than two winnings.

1028
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: That'd be the perfect scenario for ye pitch against a

1029
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: lineup that's not horrendous, and their best lader' is a

1030
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: lefty yes, and their best layer is a lefty. Oh man,

1031
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: I still just don't want to see one. So to

1032
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: hit against Thomas a puckey, but like I feel bad

1033
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: for the guy. He's made two appearances for the Mets

1034
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: and he's gotten shelled.

1035
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: Fifteen ear and runs total in less than four innings.

1036
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just wasn't good it right from

1037
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the jump. I mean, the Mets were down in a

1038
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: massive hole again and I can't blame them for not

1039
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: getting this one back.

1040
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: No, for sure, And also because we faced Jake Junish

1041
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: I told you guys about last week, who is just

1042
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: becoming one of the most annoying pitchers to face and

1043
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: all of baseball.

1044
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: He almost, like I said, through the Mets no fastballs.

1045
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: Throws yesterday he throws absolute junk and it worked.

1046
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: It worked. No, And you know what else he does.

1047
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: He keeps ball on the ground.

1048
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: And the day when the wind was blowing out and

1049
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: it seemed like they had one of those jumpy baseballs

1050
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: in play here at least the humidor made it that way.

1051
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Possibly Mets couldn't even lift the ball off of.

1052
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Him some positives though Lindor still Good, still Good got

1053
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: another home run in this one, so end of double Yeah,

1054
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: all the Lindorks will probably tell you well the game,

1055
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: it was out of reach. The game didn't matter like

1056
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: enough enough. The stats at the end of the year

1057
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: are the stats at the end of the year for

1058
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: a reason. You're gonna go through every at bat and

1059
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: talk about the severity or importance of every single swing

1060
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the guy takes. Like, give me a break, it's baseball, guys.

1061
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 3: Francisco Lindor hopefully is gonna have at least six hundred

1062
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: of these played appearances by the time it was all said

1063
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: and done. And like I mentioned before with Escobar, you

1064
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: see guys end of year stats and you'll look up

1065
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: his Baseball Reference or his fangraft page when you acquire them,

1066
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, this is what I will expect.

1067
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: But you don't watch these guys day in and day out.

1068
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: You don't know who's streaking who isn't. You don't know

1069
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: if Francisco Lindor had a month in twenty eighteen and

1070
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: he was an MVP candidate where he hit one to eighty,

1071
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: you don't know.

1072
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: It's just impossible to tell. We don't watch these guys

1073
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: as intently when there are other teams as we do

1074
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: with the Mets, as obviously as we could say it.

1075
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: And now I did the last episode. I'm gonna do

1076
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: it again.

1077
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: Since Francisco Lindor struck out with two men on against

1078
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Juvonni Diegos to lose a game in the second game

1079
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: of a double heather last week, he has a three

1080
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: fifty five four to thirty five five ninety slash. Pretty good,

1081
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: pretty good, bad sample, but I mean, hey, over a

1082
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: week three fifty five batting average.

1083
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: While the batting average has out there.

1084
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: The lind Dorks will give you bad samples all the time,

1085
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: so will play the same game as them.

1086
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: Good sample back.

1087
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: Two home runs, two doubles, a triple one ninety WRC

1088
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: plus all of those stats are that's an incredible week

1089
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: by any standard. As a baseball player effort, that's all

1090
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: you do that for your whole career, a Hall of famer.

1091
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: What are the stats up two on the year?

1092
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: Now up to the year, Francisco Lindor is now a

1093
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: two to fifty hither with seven to eighty ops, which

1094
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: are each significantly higher than the league average. I'm sure

1095
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: some people even still see that two to fifty batting

1096
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: average and think gets two thousand and seven.

1097
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: That's not good.

1098
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: But for sure, the league WIE batting average is like

1099
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: two thirty three right now. So physical indoor is getting

1100
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: more base hits than the average hit and baseball. Sure,

1101
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: that's not a barometer because prinsical door makes thirty four

1102
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: million dollars and you want to get more base hits

1103
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: significantly more than the average heather of baseball. But for

1104
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: physical endor, the play is right now. I don't think

1105
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: of two fifty average is nothing to sneeze at. And

1106
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: he's a good baseball player. It's crazy that people are

1107
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: trying to still tear this guy down because he makes money. Yeah,

1108
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: I think that's the big reason why jealousy. Yeah, I

1109
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: guess so, and Andresy Meenez and Amedrosario sich world beaters in Cleveland. Yeah,

1110
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: he means is having a very good year. But you

1111
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: can't even compare the impact that these guys have.

1112
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Amenas having a good year.

1113
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: How many games of amenez as have we watched? The

1114
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: same thing.

1115
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: It's the same conversations before, as you were saying, like,

1116
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: if you tell me that you've watched more than honestly

1117
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: ten Cleveland Guardian games in your life, not counting the postseason,

1118
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: you're a liar.

1119
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: You're a liar, or you're a Cleveland Guardians fan, or

1120
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: you have multiple TVs and you play a lot of

1121
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: fancy baseball.

1122
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then, I just don't think they're probably

1123
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: your number one go to late night game and we

1124
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: see what the Cleveland Guardians are up to.

1125
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: Hey Central just not really not that much of exciting baseball. No,

1126
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: And this game, like we said, it was a poop fest.

1127
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: Not gonna talk too much more about it. That's pretty much.

1128
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: It disappointing to lose the series, especially when we could

1129
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: have won it the night before. Yeah, and then to

1130
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: kind of just get sheld. All the games were weirdly

1131
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: like not close, except for Game two, which was again

1132
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: game of the year.

1133
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: Probably, And we also objectively were that pitching disadvantage in

1134
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: all three of these games and the fact that we

1135
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: even won one convincing it should have won too.

1136
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: Like that. I'm not gonna say I'm like happy about.

1137
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: That, because he still lost a series, but the fact

1138
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: that the Mets were able to battle against a team

1139
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: who is good and who had a better pitcher on

1140
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: the mound in all three games like that is something.

1141
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: There's no reason to panic right out this Mets team.

1142
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that there's a chance that Juvene gets ugly.

1143
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: It could Thomas the Buckey's gonna pitch start more games

1144
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: and know a lot of people on Twitter we're completely

1145
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: dumb with him after the game. Maybe some of you

1146
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: guys are right in saying that. But this team's gonna

1147
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: keep grinding. At least at worst case scenario, you have

1148
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: a very good lineup and a team that does not quit.

1149
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: I think the best way to sum up where the

1150
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: Mets are at right now is that there are problems

1151
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: with this team and problems with this roster, but they're

1152
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: not something that we should exactly be worried about, yea,

1153
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: because it's not really anything that we hope is actually

1154
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: long term. Just the fact that this Mets team is

1155
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: missing pitchers right now is rearing its ugly head and

1156
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: turning a lot of these games into ones that should

1157
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: be closer into some that will get away from you.

1158
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: And that's just a function if we used to be

1159
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: a fan of a bad Mets team. When you have

1160
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: a bad team, you're not gonna have good pictures. You're

1161
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: throwing two or three guys out there a week, or

1162
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: you're like.

1163
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: I hope something good happens.

1164
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's kind of it. And also On the

1165
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: other side of that, Tyler McGill starts throwing. The other

1166
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: day he played catch. He felt, well, he's doing for

1167
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: a bullpen session soon, and Jacob de Grom shout out

1168
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: Jesse Finver Westfild High School graduate.

1169
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: He was taking a stadium tour.

1170
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he saw a lanky right hander in the

1171
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: outfield playing catch, smiling and with Jacob de Gram he

1172
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: was throwing. So maybe we could even have a bullpen

1173
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: session for him soon after his next round of imaging.

1174
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: The pitching's coming. The pitching's coming. It's about getting through

1175
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: this time right now and just kind of I don't

1176
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: want to say staying afloat, because that's that's I think,

1177
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: too low of expectations. But continue to play good baseball. Grinding, grinding,

1178
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: keep ging. Oh yeah, I like grinding. That's a good one.

1179
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: He's got a grind.

1180
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: God, grind it out. Bill Belichick says the best no

1181
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: days off, No days off. Sorry, Jet fans, I'm sure

1182
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: you absolutely hate that. James included fu Bill Belichick grace

1183
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: coach of all time.

1184
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: He's a grace coach of all time. But I just

1185
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: hate him.

1186
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1187
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: As a as a Commanders fan, there is no animosity

1188
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: to Bill Belichick.

1189
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, but I do know for sure Bill Belichick

1190
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: does not like comedies, definitely does not like big fan

1191
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: of the United States history War buff all Right, we

1192
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: got off topic clips, I mean a little bit. But

1193
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: ye know this, this, this we gotta do right now.

1194
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: This Mets team has to grind. They gotta stick with

1195
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: it every single Guys who do their part every single day,

1196
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 3: Guys like Stephen Dugostik are gonna have to pull the

1197
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: outings out of their as We're gonna see Donothandina have

1198
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: do crazy things. David Pearson has to continue to be

1199
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: the league average. We need like from Taiwan, We need

1200
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 3: like from Chris Bassu, we need like from Carls Carrasco.

1201
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: Everybody has to play a little bit better right now

1202
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: and band together and wait for the reinforcements to come back.

1203
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Just remember this time last year we were playing with

1204
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: a double a team.

1205
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: Literally, who was the three hitter a year ago?

1206
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: You guys know who's hitting third this time last year,

1207
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: this day, I'll give you a hundred guesses, the day

1208
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: at the time of recording, not the day you guys

1209
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: are listening, which would be May twenty fifth, Brandon Drury,

1210
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: who's having a great year out in Cincinnati for you know, he's.

1211
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: Pretty cold last few weeks, okay, which means he's gonna

1212
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: get really hot for the next few weeks.

1213
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: I just said he's cold.

1214
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. But Brandon Drew was hitting third, Jonathan

1215
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: vr was leading off, you know, hit fourth this game.

1216
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: James McCann, what position did he play first?

1217
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're looking at it right now while

1218
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: we're talking you.

1219
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: So I literally didn't see that. I played first, Thomas

1220
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: and it was in sixth. We just named Dominic Smith

1221
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: was in left field.

1222
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just named our guaranteed nine hitters hitting fourth

1223
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: and sixth in the same line up. Like this team

1224
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: has been in way way worse. Serious, this team is

1225
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: way better than we've seen the past. Everyone needs to

1226
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, relax. We weren't gonna win every

1227
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: series every single year. You know what I will tell you.

1228
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: We beat the Giants in a season series. That right

1229
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: there is a huge barometer for the Mets success. That's

1230
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: a w We got one game up on the Giants,

1231
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: which is huge, a team that we could be competing

1232
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: for with the playoff spot at the end of the year.

1233
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: This was a team that surprised everyone last year and

1234
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: won the National League West in pretty dominant fashion. They

1235
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: won what like one hundred and six games.

1236
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: Or whatever it was.

1237
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: He also won division by one game, I know, but

1238
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: still winning one hundred and six games.

1239
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: No, that's not dominant fashion. You're only one game by

1240
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: in the team in second you.

1241
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: Won one hundred and sixty dominant. I don't care.

1242
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were dominant team. They weren't dominant in

1243
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: the division.

1244
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1245
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I guess for a podcast, I should probably be better.

1246
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: On the September win that division again, but like furiously

1247
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: charging Dodgers.

1248
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: For us to take a season series from them as

1249
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: a whole spin zone, I don't care. I'm happy.

1250
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: I'm okay, especially when you have to face the team

1251
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: this series. I'll say it again, three games a row,

1252
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: you're out of pitching disadvantage. Yep, three games and they

1253
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: really really should have won two of them for sure.

1254
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Now, we haven't done prospect report in a few weeks.

1255
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do it.

1256
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: We do it every week, week and a half week,

1257
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Let's go ahead and h kind of

1258
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: give you guys a little prospect report here. Starting off

1259
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: with Mark Viento's triple A might be the closest hitter.

1260
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: We have to maybe having an impact at the major

1261
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: league lever only the closer that we have is making

1262
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: an impact.

1263
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: And while he started the year off slow, he's called

1264
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: it hot right now.

1265
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark Viano's pointed out by Christopher so Though on

1266
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: Twitter at so Though C eighth three, he I think

1267
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 3: it's just a member of metch Twitter. He just seems

1268
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: like a very very thoughtful, engage and knowledgeable fan. He

1269
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: pointed out that Mark Vento's has notoriously been a slow

1270
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: star there in every minor league season he's ever been in.

1271
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, he had two to fifty eight average

1272
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 3: in April and seven to sixty two ops twenty nineteen,

1273
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: two twenty seven average six seventeen ops twenty twenty one

1274
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: last year, when he went bilistically hot two thirty one

1275
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: average six eighty nine ops. This year two and twenty

1276
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: two in April won sixty four average five sixty nine ops,

1277
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: which is by far the worst than that list, but

1278
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: also against by far the best competition Vento's ever played against,

1279
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: and now he has spun it around again in May

1280
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: to be very hot. He has a two ninety four hundred,

1281
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: six hundred slash so far this month with an ending

1282
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: next week, a one seventy WRC plus and five home

1283
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: runs as of recording of this bearely hit one today,

1284
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: so only might hit another one.

1285
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might, he might hit another one. He's still

1286
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: striking out a bit. Yeah, But that's that's Mark Vento's

1287
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: that's the player he's going to be. But the fact

1288
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: that he's been able to turn around offensively is huge

1289
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, he's a guy I would like

1290
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: to see at some point, maybe in Queens this year's

1291
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: a good chance to do.

1292
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

1293
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: Mark Viento's, though, is just still extraneous to JD Davis

1294
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: as a guy who hits but just doesn't have a

1295
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 3: defensive home Like. There were a couple of Mets fans

1296
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: who were talking on Twitter. Someone mentioned me personally who said,

1297
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: could Mark Ventto's wind up taking Dom Smid spot in

1298
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: the ross or now he don't even.

1299
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Think that's possible.

1300
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: No, it would be JD. He'd be taking j D

1301
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: spot on.

1302
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: JD is just better hitter right now than Mark Vanto says,

1303
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: because if you lose, then you have two guys in

1304
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: your bench who just can't play any positions.

1305
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: We're back to the Canoe dom Smith thing again.

1306
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: You might as just altays bring up Daniel Paka at

1307
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: this point because he's probably a better I think he

1308
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: has ten home runs already.

1309
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: Dude smoking the ball, yeah, as he always does.

1310
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: Also, just sticking with the triple A roster for a

1311
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: second before we keep diving in. The Mets traded for

1312
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Daniel Johnson of the Guardians yesterday. Johnson is a bit

1313
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: of an interesting one of those quadruple players. He's very

1314
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: good athlete, he has good play discipline. He has like

1315
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: a little bit of power. It's not much, but it's

1316
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: also not none. He's someone who I think could wind

1317
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: up being good depth of this team as the summer

1318
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: goes along.

1319
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: We've always talked about, hey, let's let's get some players,

1320
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: and Daniel Johnson feels like he could be. Now the

1321
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: big names you guys want to hear about, Batty Alvarez,

1322
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: double A A not playing.

1323
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: They're they're young. I mean, well Baty's not, but for.

1324
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: Twenty two I think so Baby is still objectively young

1325
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: ish for the level or a bad average for it.

1326
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: Alva is definitely young overs twenty years old.

1327
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: He's very young for the level, but neither of them

1328
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: are really hitting the ball well right now. But also

1329
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: we have to remember that development is not linear. There's

1330
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: not something that's going to be like you know, will

1331
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: be the show where you just see Overalls go up

1332
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: and up and up and up and just oh now

1333
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: he's a ninety We made it. That's not how it

1334
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: works in real baseball. Brett Bailey has been struggling more

1335
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: so in made in April. He's a thirty percent strikeout

1336
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: race as a month began just two home runs. He

1337
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: is walking sixteen percent of the time, though, and has

1338
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: WRC plus over one hundred, so even when he's not

1339
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: performing in the conventional way, he's still finding ways to

1340
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: help his team at the plate, which I think is

1341
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: meaningful for development. Alvarez just has one hundred WRC plus

1342
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: in the season, so as one of the youngest players

1343
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 3: at the level, he is league average exactly and twenty

1344
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: eight percent strikeout rate, which we said before there was

1345
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: a chance that he could have gotten nuclear this year

1346
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: and made it to the show.

1347
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: It's just not happening. But that just means that he

1348
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: is a regular really good prospect instead of a generational one,

1349
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: which is okay, that's fine, it's really okay, and there's.

1350
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: Not that main generational prospect doesn't happen that often. That's

1351
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: why you use the term generational.

1352
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And again generational too, doesn't mean it can't be

1353
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: an All star, doesn't mean he can't be one of

1354
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: the best hitting catchers in the league.

1355
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: Hundred he can also still could develop in generational way

1356
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: after this bad two months that it's only been two months.

1357
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: Say, he's still so young, he's still so talented. We've

1358
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: seen him in person.

1359
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: He's an absolute freak. One of the youngest players at

1360
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: the level.

1361
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: It's not the youngest, yeah, whatever it is now, no

1362
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: worries about either of these guys, but just figured me

1363
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: time we touch base for you. And then of course

1364
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Rodney Mauricio, the other big name prospect. Still hitting for power, yeah,

1365
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: but still doing the Ronny Maurisio thing, striking out a lot,

1366
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: not walking, Nope, six.

1367
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: Home runs already in the minor league season. But he's

1368
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: running almost thirty percent strikeout rate and less than a

1369
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: five percent walk grate, which that was always the book

1370
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: with Mauricio. So that Gil still has not developed, has

1371
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: still kind of been the exact same player that he.

1372
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Has been for the last few years.

1373
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: And then we got some promotions, right, a couple of

1374
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: guys from Loway to Hie out in Brooklyn, so we

1375
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: could maybe go take a look at them in person.

1376
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably should soon. Honestly, I'd like to get a

1377
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Coney Island brew. Yeah right, it was fun days last year.

1378
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: But two pitchers who the Mets drafted each of them

1379
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: last year? Correct, Yeah, I believe so. Mike Vasal definitely was.

1380
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I seymore.

1381
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: Mike Vassal was an eighth round pick by the Mets

1382
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: last year. He had given up just one earned run

1383
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: his last twenty four innings for Saint Lucy, with twenty

1384
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: seven strikeouts and six walks to boot. Guy has a

1385
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: very big fastball. One of those late round pitchers that

1386
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: the Mets got last year with the their eyes set

1387
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: on proximity.

1388
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: He was a college guy, correct.

1389
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, college guy out of Virginia. One of the better

1390
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: pictures in the country, I think.

1391
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, he had like a big freshman

1392
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: year and then lauld after.

1393
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, believe he was an older draft pick. That's also

1394
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: why he fell a little bit and like none of

1395
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: his stuff was like ninety eight miles an hour.

1396
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: I think his fastball has like very good like specs,

1397
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: like it could's been very good extension stuff like that,

1398
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: which is.

1399
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: Again why we talk about the Mets being smart. Now

1400
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: we're starting to get smart. Point seventy two all about that.

1401
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: But these are things that hopefully the Mets can continue

1402
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: to capitalize on making an eighth round pick have values huge.

1403
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: The next we have Carson Seymour, who was a met

1404
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: six round pick last year. So two college pitchers who

1405
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: were taken after the rounds that you really expect relatively

1406
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 3: fast risers in the LMB draft both jumped the level

1407
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: in less than two months. Carson Seymour's name on Twitter,

1408
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: I want to mention chee Chuck. Thought that was kind

1409
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: of funny.

1410
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: I like that.

1411
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 3: So that's like a little double entendre because I feel

1412
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: like a nickname for Carson could be Chuck and also

1413
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: Chuck throws chat He's got big fastball as well, also

1414
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: that nice high release point.

1415
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: It seems like the Mets are covering now the twenty

1416
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: two percent.

1417
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: Strike rate in Low A and they'll only giving up

1418
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: four earned in thir of the innings. He's another guy

1419
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: again mentioned before College Experience.

1420
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: For fact about Carson Seymore Do start off at Dartmouth

1421
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: and then went to k State, which is a super

1422
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: super big.

1423
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: Change, very different IVY League the KY State. I don't

1424
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: know if we got an ky State fans Orky State

1425
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: alumni had in Kansas the first a coom plays to hang

1426
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: out though. Really yeah, firs of on campus.

1427
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I just there's probably a zero percent chance of ever

1428
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: in Kansas.

1429
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Good football environment too good, good bart Well,

1430
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City barbecue.

1431
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: But what side is it on?

1432
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't think. Man, I don't know.

1433
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: I've been to Kansas once. I just simply drove through

1434
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 3: it as fast as I could.

1435
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

1436
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: I probably went.

1437
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: I'll probably never be in Kansas. But these guys, like

1438
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: you said, have been performing well. Glad to see they

1439
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: got promotion. Mets promoted a couple other guys cut some

1440
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: dudes like I saw. One name was Antoine do plant

1441
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: This who have been hanging around the Brooklyn Cyclones the

1442
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: last few years, ended up getting cut. Just the way

1443
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: the land. It's kind of how it goes if you

1444
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: don't perform, you get on the chopping block. Sad to see,

1445
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: but there are some guys in this Mets farm system

1446
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: that are getting promoted.

1447
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 2: We like that and also very nice.

1448
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: Had the Mets draft last year that a lot of

1449
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: people harped on because they lost their first round picture.

1450
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: They now seem like they've had four pitchers drafted after

1451
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: the first round who all look.

1452
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: Like they have a shot to make it.

1453
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Which is nice, really nice. Siegler and Hammill especially look

1454
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: really really good.

1455
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: Zegler looks like he could be a potential star.

1456
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: A little younger than these guys and smaller, Yeah, a

1457
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: litt less experienced, so he's gonna take a little more

1458
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: time down there in the Florida State League.

1459
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: But encouraging to see it.

1460
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: The Mets have found, like, you have four of these

1461
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: guys moving, one of them gets there, you won.

1462
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, one huge win. Yeah, huge win. And now let's

1463
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: wrap it up here talk about the Phillies preview. We

1464
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: got a three game series, including a Sunday night baseball game,

1465
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: which I will be at. I don't know about you,

1466
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think.

1467
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: I'll be there. Maybe Saturday. I'm thinking about it, but.

1468
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: I got I got a cousin's wedding shots. My cousin Anna,

1469
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: who's getting married. We'll give her a little shot on

1470
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: the podcast. Big Greek Name, Big Greek name. Yeah, it's

1471
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: spelled like ghana, but it's pronounced on of.

1472
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: Course, I know, I know.

1473
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: One and the Phillies have been playing some interesting baseball.

1474
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: They do this thing now where the bullpen's I mean

1475
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: really really bad.

1476
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: The bullpen has struggle, bussing hard and mismanaged for sure.

1477
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean Joe Girardi, by no means, is

1478
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: the smartest manager bas Port.

1479
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: Can evel pitch the ninth inning for the Phillies on

1480
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: Monday against the Braves. They were either winning six to

1481
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 3: one or six to two, so non safe situation, very

1482
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: clean ninth inning. And on Tuesday night, Joe Girardi tried

1483
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: to stretch out Nick Nelson for a six out save.

1484
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: For some reason, I don't know why you ever wone

1485
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: Nack Nelson get six out, especially when those six outs

1486
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: are coming in the eighth and ninth innings against the

1487
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: division rival with a good lineup. Of course, fell apart

1488
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: right in his face. But well, mismagem darre, We're happy

1489
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: to still be able to count that from Girardy.

1490
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Harper's back now after getting the injection. He's

1491
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: not paying the lineup.

1492
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: He still don't play the outfield in the full month,

1493
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: but he's still swinging and he's still sick. He's one

1494
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: of the best hitters in baseball.

1495
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: I I want to ask Met fans this series something

1496
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm very passionate about. Please don't chant that Bryce Harper

1497
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: is overrated, because if anything else, Bryce Harper, I would

1498
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: say significantly underrated in the baseball landscape. He's literally one

1499
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: of the best players this generation. Almost at this point,

1500
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure fire Hall of Famer if he continues at

1501
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: least at eighty percent of his pace the next five years,

1502
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: even the length of this Phillies contract. He is so

1503
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: good and he seems to really feed off that negative energy.

1504
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: So please, Mets fans, if you listen to Messed Up podcast,

1505
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: do not chant overrated that Bryce Harper.

1506
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: Booze boos are cool, booz are fine, great, You saw

1507
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: no chance, no chance, you can't go overrated. There's too

1508
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: many times that we've seeing clips on Twitter where Bryce

1509
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: Arper's being called overrated and the next that bat hits

1510
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: a nuke, and I don't want that. We want Bryce

1511
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: Arper to hit no nukes, we want no home runs

1512
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: from Bryce Arper. It's really really good. It's gonna be

1513
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: tough anyway, but don't give him extra fuel for the fire.

1514
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: No. And also, it seems like he has really taken

1515
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: to this dh roll because he is very good at

1516
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 3: hitting there like a goes he always has been. It's

1517
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: just a shame that the rest of this Phillies roster

1518
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: is just not equipped to handle him.

1519
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: There.

1520
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: Imagine giving one of the best hitters in baseball saying, hey,

1521
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: just just worry about hitting now, you don't even have

1522
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: to play the field, just hit. Imagine how much better

1523
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: he gets, I.

1524
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: Mean, especially a disciplined Morman.

1525
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: I know he's great.

1526
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always focusing on baseball right now. Amazing.

1527
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: But we're the pitching matchups.

1528
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: Pitching matchups Friday night.

1529
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: We got Carlos carrasco versus Zach Eflyn Saturday Night, three

1530
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: night games. This series all seven o'clock starts, which good

1531
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: and bad I guess. And I think we only have

1532
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: one on s and Y, which is Friday night. I

1533
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: think Saturday Night is.

1534
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: Fox Fox, and then ESPN.

1535
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Friday Night, carrasco versus e Flyn Saturday Walker

1536
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: and Zach Wheeler, which Zack Wheeler, if you guys haven't

1537
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: paying attention, is back to being Zach Wheeler.

1538
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: Is he throat unless he starts to be really good.

1539
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: That's what he got hitden Atlanta.

1540
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: No, I pitched dominant ten strikeouts, I think like eight

1541
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: base hits, but ten strikeouts, like no walks in seven innings.

1542
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: The singles, right, that's why singles.

1543
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, single have Zack Whilliers and Crab the Bulls.

1544
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: We're going to deal with that and then someday we

1545
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: don't have a pitcher listed right now, that is I

1546
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: guess Chris Bassett's day or Peterson Peterson. Yeah, yeah, I

1547
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: guess they'll be Peterson. He's not on the ESPN website,

1548
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: but I'm assuming that's going to be David Peterson against

1549
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Gibson.

1550
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: Which if David Peterson pitched like he has, that's fine.

1551
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be the third time Phillies have

1552
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: seen him this year, though, correct, Yeah, I believe so, yes.

1553
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: That's a little bit. Warrias and Phillies also have left

1554
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: handed heavy lineup.

1555
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean the Phillies have been hot and

1556
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: cold I think this year. I think that's the best

1557
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: way to describe them.

1558
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: That's kind of the way they even built this roster

1559
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: to begin with. And there's not that much we can

1560
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: actually eve break down about the Phillies because this will

1561
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: be the tenth, eleventh, and twelve times we've seen them

1562
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: already this year before June's first, which is shocking. And

1563
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: as they're getting hot pretty great for US Mets fans,

1564
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: we're not them August twelfth, yeah, which we're going more

1565
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: than two months now without playing the Philadelphia Phillies, which

1566
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: is hysterical, and.

1567
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: It would be so sick if we could end this

1568
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: little streak of playing them with a nice series win. Yeah,

1569
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: I want to get crazy. I want to sweep. I

1570
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: really would. A sweep would make me feel just oodles

1571
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: and noodles of great.

1572
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: If Tom and Walker could beat Zach Wheeler, anything's on

1573
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: the table. Yes, we're talking World Series.

1574
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: And we also know the Phillies bullpen. Anything's on the

1575
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: table exactly.

1576
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Just get Zach at the game.

1577
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: After the sixth inning, see a lot of pitches early,

1578
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: put the ball in play consistently.

1579
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: You might have a shot here. But M's have been

1580
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: swinging the that well. I know, I know Game three

1581
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: didn't score a lot, but those expect well.

1582
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: The Phillies mentioned last week, I don't know if they

1583
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 3: were right wrong about this, but that there's different balls

1584
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: in the East Coast versus the West Coast, which is

1585
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 3: kind of funny. I really think it's just the different

1586
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: way the balls are reacting to the humid doors, because

1587
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: the West Coast is a little bit warmer so far

1588
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: in the East Coast and San Francisco is a little

1589
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 3: bit more wet. I'm also not a scientist or like

1590
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: a researer. I guess I technically am a research analyst.

1591
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Send it to the aerospace person whatever it is. Yeah,

1592
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: Marilyn Wallace, Meredith, Meredith. But also it see getting hot anyway.

1593
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: It seems like the ball's gonna start flying more.

1594
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: It should be.

1595
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be like a great moral of the weekend,

1596
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: but we're doing weather now in the Messed Up podcast.

1597
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: It would be at least decent.

1598
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Should be decent, and hopefully the metsican win the series.

1599
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: They should. Mets are about the team.

1600
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: I hope. So the Phillis are playing well. I have

1601
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: a good lineup and the some pitching in the.

1602
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: Series, the Yin and Yang. You give the Phillies a

1603
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: lot more credit, probably deserve, and I give them molmost

1604
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: zero credit.

1605
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: Also, they're doing a new thing that reys Hoskins leads off,

1606
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: which is pretty funny.

1607
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: That's like smart.

1608
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: It is objectively smart as good on base percentage. Guy,

1609
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: they go Hoskins bom Harper.

1610
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: It's pretty decent. One, two, three, it's pretty good.

1611
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: And also it's good against the Mets because they keep

1612
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: Gene Sigura and kyleege Warber lower in the lineups unless

1613
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: that bats the series.

1614
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: That is great.

1615
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: Casiositt now fourth, Yeah.

1616
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: I think behind Harper and they they dropped Real Muta

1617
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: down in like six or seven most days. No comment, none,

1618
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: no comment about I'm just I'm just telling you where

1619
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: guys hit.

1620
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no I have no opinion on jac

1621
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Rob Mutzo.

1622
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: I said, I like the fact that they move Jean

1623
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: Cigara and Kylee Shwarber, too notorious Mets killers down the

1624
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: lineup because based on math, they're going to probably get

1625
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: less at bats.

1626
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that's good.

1627
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not making any distinctions or clarifications

1628
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: about any of these players.

1629
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: No, obviously not No. The only thing we will say

1630
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: is that we are playing the Phillies and these are

1631
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: the players that are on the Phillies.

1632
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and I will say if I could jinx anything.

1633
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler again has n't pitching really.

1634
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, lights out, He's been untouchable.

1635
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: Idle.

1636
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah for the one time last year that Patrick Mazeka

1637
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: can't hit a home run off that guy.

1638
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: No chance you need to, Patrick Luino. What's the other

1639
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: kid gonna be? Mozika Luino.

1640
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: It's a pretty name for a girl.

1641
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: If Patrick Mazika hits a home runoff of Zach Wheeler,

1642
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that again, not doing that. That worth it?

1643
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 2: Mosika Luino? Are you kidding?

1644
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: It's a horrible name that doesn't roll off the tongue.

1645
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: Or we could just do Patrick Mozeka Luino one one kid.

1646
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get okay. I'll throw Misica as the middle name. Perfect,

1647
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Mizzique will be the middle name. Almost Greek close it

1648
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: could you could, you could twist it Greekish. We're getting

1649
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: crazy though, Yeah, yeah, we hit the appal hit the aurthing,

1650
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: we start to get wild. It's eight thirty on Wednesday night.

1651
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: It's pretty normal, so normal, so normal, It's so normal.

1652
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up here, episode number ninety five.

1653
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: The mets of the podcast thank you as for listening

1654
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: and watching follo us on all our social media app

1655
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: met stuff, Follow James at Jeter had no range, follow

1656
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: me at your raftneck mark, and if you're listening to

1657
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, whatever it is, make

1658
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: sure you're following, subscribing, rating, reviewing, do it all.

1659
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: Also allegedly had some trouble with the last episode on

1660
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: Google podcast. If that happens again, yeah, A couple of

1661
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: people tweeted me that really they couldn't listen to an

1662
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: on Google. People listen to it on Google, a few people.

1663
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: We're not chastising our Google listeners out there. We're not

1664
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: trying to you know, you know, shun anybody here. But

1665
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: if that does happen again, let us know and I'll rain.

1666
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: Hell down upon Google.

1667
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: Also, hand up my bad miss. The YouTube video got

1668
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: lazy marks fault. That's my fault, So tweet at me

1669
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: you son of a bitch or something. I don't know

1670
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: what it is.

1671
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: I was sweating in the audio to get out from

1672
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: Monday morning at two o'clock in the morning in my hot,

1673
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: broken apartment and Mark.

1674
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: Mark is relaxing in the air conditioning watching television.

1675
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. I think I got too comfortable.

1676
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: You sure did. Also, before we go, just heads up

1677
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: on the next episode.

1678
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: Some weird timing going on, so it might be out

1679
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: a little bit later than normal. We don't have an

1680
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: exact time, but it's more likely than not that it

1681
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: will not be available for like the six am time

1682
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: slot on Monday morning, just because we have the late

1683
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: night game against the Phillies.

1684
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: And also just because it's Memorial Day and we both

1685
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: have stuff going on. So sorry about that, but it's

1686
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: also is Memorial Day. No matter what happens on Tuesday morning,

1687
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: you will have a messed up podcast to listen to.

1688
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that at the absolute worst Tuesday morning.

1689
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: And we're not saying it won't be out Monday.

1690
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: No, Tuesday morning you good chance. Monday afternoon you have

1691
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: one too, But spend the moor all day, we know,

1692
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: hanging out.

1693
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 1: And Tuesday morning when you're going back to work. Yeah, sure, listen,

1694
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: that's the podcast.

1695
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Crack a cold one, enjoy yourself, have some fun.

1696
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoy the weekend guys, thanks for listening. We'll catch

1697
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: you on the next episode. Peace Out, peace out. See

1698
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: you guys next time.