1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Here we are on off the Edge with me, your 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: host Cam Jordan, and I'm just overly blessed, overly happy 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: to be here in Las Vegas at the annual Sack Summit, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: which has become a thing now you know me, Von Miller, 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, first collaboration. We're gonna take off from here. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here with my guy, Josh Allen. When 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: I say paid is an understatement. We're not gonna put 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: numbers out there, but he just got paid this offseason. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: We are so excited for him to join the show. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: When I say pro bowler, we're talking about Josh Allen. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: When I say, you know a guy who had seventeen 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: and a half sacks this past season, a threshold that 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: is hard to get to. You know, there's been a 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of seasons you can put together, have ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Once you get beyond that fifteen, you get in a real, 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: real rare air and you hit seventeen a half marks 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and seventeen half sacks for the mark this is past season. 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say congratulations on your congratulations on getting paid, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything you've done at this point, and I 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: know there's so much more, but I appreciate you tapping 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: in on the. 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: Show Man to be here with your big bro. Yeah. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed you've been to Saxon before, right, I have 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: ten years ago, I'll say I was one of them years. 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, all these all these sex I'm start 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: to blend together. I was like, you've definitely been here, 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: and was it three years ago? And now you're coming 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: back you know where where it's bigger and better than ever. 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to? 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Uh? Communication? Uh, blending with the guys, learning, growing and 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: also spreading my knowledge and wealth things that I you know, 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: learned throughout these years that I could pass on the 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: other guys, spreading wealth. 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Can I get a dollar wealth, the well wealth of 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: of knowledge? Got excited? 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: I can help you make some money, you know, Okay, 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt. 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Uh speaking of you, you know, just the the 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: success that you've had, have you have? You had a 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: big spurs yet I know you got a fami. I 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: know you got kids beyond moms, and I know you 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: took care of the fam. I know you got a wife. 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: He probably got a nice purse out of it. 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: What did you get you I got a new car. Oh, 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: we'll say double r Oh. I had to get it. 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Oh big big, big big dog. Okay, I'm saving that. 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: What a driver? 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh does it come with the driver? But does a 49 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: double art come with the driver? You gotta sell it separately. 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: It's easy. You gotta get it separately. But it's easy 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: to get one, especially in jackson A lot of people. 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville really small baby. Oh your boy. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: When I first got to Jacksonville, my my big homie 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Tyson Lululu was drafted. Was that twenty ten first time 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: I ever got through Jacksonville, was like, there's nothing here. 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: Nope, that's why it's easy to make people people connections. 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Fourteen years later, it actually looks like it's like a 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: solid city now. 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's growing. It's definitely grown. With the new stadium 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: being built to I think that's gonna bring a lot 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: more revenue, a lot more a lot more money in 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: the city. Uh, and then bringing the four seasons into 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: our owner bringing the four seasons in and y'all got 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: a four seasons in Jacksonville, were making one. Yeah, so 68 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: we're doing something. Man, and you know, hopefully that just 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: keeps growing and growing for us. 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Right right, You got my you got my former d 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: line coach Ryan Nilsen as your decordinator. Now you've had 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, a little off season with them. How do 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: you like him so far? 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, so far, so good? You know for me, 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, he called the first time. The first thing 76 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: he talked about when I talked on the phone with 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: him was you going forward. That's all I need to hear. Now, 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: put the ball in my court. Let me beat me 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: and we can do that. And I think the conversations 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: that we had he kind of lets you, you know, 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: take a chow because I think in his defense, you know, 82 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: the ends need to be need to be elite, you know, 83 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: needs to be those guys. And where I'm at and 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: where my trajectory is going in my career, I can 85 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: only see myself going up. So if you allow me 86 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 2: to go right, trust me that I'm gonna go. And 87 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: but now this year, man, I did that last year 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: by myself. Now it's trying to spread that well to 89 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: the others. You know. Uh, got Trey who's coming up. 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Got Eric that's new, and we got a lot of 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: younger guys that I can kind of like, let's let's 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: do this movie like this. You know, you got a 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: monster in the middle, and I'm already knowing. Man, I'm happy. 94 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm happy kid in the store the show. 95 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, you know, it seems like you guys 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: got a strong collective. You know, a couple of years 97 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: ago they paid the wide receiver Kirk. You know, they 98 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: they kept They're starting to keep their own you. You know, 99 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, how does how does it make you feel 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: that organization, you know, wants to love the players, wants 101 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: to you know, pay their loyalty towards players like you 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: and Trevor. 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it means a lot. Uh. It means we're 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: going in the right direction. You know, things that haven't 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: been done in a very long time. You know. For 106 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: me to be the first you know, one hundred million 107 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: dollar player in organization, like in the whole organization, Uh, 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy, but it's a it's a humble experience, 109 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm thankful for that. But we're in 110 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: the right directions. We're keeping our top players, our best players, 111 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: and our core players as well, so we can continue 112 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: to keep building on that, keep bringing the younger guys up. 113 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: That's why we put these guys in these roles to 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you played for the Saints, you had none 115 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: but young guys and build them up and now you 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: see them go here, go there. But they helped that 117 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: organization build as well. That's all I want to do. 118 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: Put my name on the map and never be forgotten 119 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville history, right right, But I mean, just. 120 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Keep your core guys in there. Keeps your locker room 121 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: integrity good too, like the vibes, the ability for you know, 122 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: in the season, you're going to have adversity, you're going 123 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: to have those wins by twenty points, some losses by 124 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: threes that hurt way more than a blowout loss. But 125 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: that core locker room keeps it going. Like, tell me 126 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: about that. Tell me about your locker room. How does 127 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: it feel? Because you know every locker room is different, 128 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: so I'm always intrigued to know, like what is your 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: locker room feel like? Is there is you know, I 130 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: don't see any dancing or or like you know, now, 131 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: we got. 132 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: A cool locked room. We got a lot of young guys. 133 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: This is one of two things that we I think 134 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: we need to implement this year moving forward to build 135 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: that team chemistry. I think right now, we too were 136 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: too blocked off, you know where we got one one 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: one group of like D line in one area, old 138 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: line another area. I think we need to mix that up. 139 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Uh and just just know you know your teammates and 140 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: I think that kind of bang. I think that would 141 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: bring a lot more chemistry with each other offense and defensively. 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: But other than that, we got a young locker room. 143 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: We'd like to have fun. 144 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 1: Who gets control of the ox? 145 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: You know, I keep boom box, you know, so I 146 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: usually but I like the old schools and so if 147 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm on it, you know, I'm usually playing cards with 148 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: the guys and I'm playing you know, my jams and stuff. 149 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: It's old school for you, sir. 150 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: You were born in. 151 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: The oh So I like you know, I like a 152 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: little Luther, you know, I like a little I like 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: a little music soul child. You know, I like the 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 2: viz bro. I like to keep it cause we all 155 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 2: we go out on the field. We listened in that rap. 156 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: We go in the weight room, were listening in the rap. 157 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: You know, all this stops rolling around kind of need 158 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: it in the locker room. Just keep a nice chill vibe. 159 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Everybody talking vibbing out. Like I said, we're playing cards. 160 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: We got a basketball hoop. You know, we got a 161 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: nice little you know. 162 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Game room. 163 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: Guys go chilling. We do jack. You mean, like like 164 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: I said, we got it's like a little lounge, a 165 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: little LOUNGEO. We got pers fours, golf simulator, pink pong table. Yeah, 166 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: come on, man, we're doing it. 167 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Man, Okay, I love it. I love it. I mean, uh, 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: we know obviously you're you're you're a leader on the team. 169 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: You lead by example. What's it like to have you know, 170 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawren's former number one overall pick from Clemson. Uh, 171 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: what is he like as a quarterback? I mean when 172 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I when I came to the league, I had Drew 173 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Brees and like so the epitome of a leader. I 174 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: know exactly what that looked like. You know, for you 175 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you come in and then you get you get Trevor Lawrence, 176 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: and he clearly is a clear cut got to be 177 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: a leader. The way he plays, the way he you know, 178 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: implements his style to the game. What is he like 179 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: as a leader. 180 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: One thing that I can say about Trevor man is 181 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: the consistency that he has with the routine. You know, 182 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: I think the more older I get is you know, 183 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: you have to have a routine, but you can't be 184 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: a robot to that routine. But you have to have 185 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: a routine. And I remember, you know, his second year 186 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: and he just wasn't playing as good every morning because 187 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: we're like early birds. So I come in there, he 188 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: right there. So it's like seeing that every single day 189 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: from now, from then to now, it's consistent. You know, 190 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: He's always had the same demeanor of like, we gonna 191 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: get it. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna command this, 192 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: We're gonna take control, you know, but we just have 193 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: to keep seasoning the moments. And but so for me, 194 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: just to see him stay disciplined, to see him stay 195 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: locked in Lilliam State, trusted in his craft, and for him, 196 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, I like to see that. And uh, he's 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: been doing that ever since. And I know it's gonna 198 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: pay off. You know. I think he's gonna have a 199 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, breakout year this year, and I think he's 200 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: gonna lead us the right way and lead us to 201 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: you know a lot of victories. 202 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean, yeah, that the AFCU out there 203 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: scrapping ya ya y'all y'a heavy sacks with backs, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 204 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: It's it's uh, it's the D line, you know how 205 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: I'll say the d lin Ley. 206 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, the Battle of Trench is really gonna play 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: a part. And I think I think the investments y'all 208 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: made the last time y'all had success into into the 209 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: playoffs was you know, back when it was Saxonville. Yes, sir, 210 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: So like what y'all what y'all creative? With the addition 211 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: of Eric Armstead, y'all have potential to get back get 212 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: back to it, you know. Like it's like I said 213 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: in the intro, you had seventeen seventeen and a half 214 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: sacks this past season. Uh, how do you talk this 215 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: last season in terms of production? 216 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think last year, man, last 217 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: year was a difficulty. It wasn't. It was difficult for me, 218 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: you know because I feel like I couldn't rely on 219 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: anybody else mentally. So it's like two people, three people communication, 220 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: no communication. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna meet the 221 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: band in front of me. I studied this dude since, 222 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: uh since since July, since June. You know, I know 223 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: my matchup and I'm gonna work this dude in front 224 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: of me. And I think, you know, that gave me 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: a lot of success individually, but I think it kind 226 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: of I could where I could have spreaded that wealth 227 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: all over the line and build this person and build 228 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: that person up. I think it was just like I 229 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: did it by myself. Now let me see if I 230 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: can do this, but added add the value to everybody else, 231 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 2: you know, and bring them to my level. Don't I 232 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: won't go to nobody else's level. I don't want to 233 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: bring everybody up to my level. And obviously adding Eric, 234 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: a guy that's been played at the high level for 235 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: so long, played with guys that played at the high level, 236 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: play with Nick defensive play of the Year, so he 237 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: knows what that work ethic is and he knows what 238 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: that competitive is. So it's like, if I can bring 239 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: that to my other guys and take more control right 240 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: there the CEFI, we go as a whole D line now. 241 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I say, like AFC South young quarterbacks, 242 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: you know, we got guys really throwing that ball there, 243 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: and who's gonna win up front? And if you look 244 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: at every super Bowl. You know who who's taking over. 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: You know the heats and you see which one's gonna win. 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: And I told him, was that right? I want to 247 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: be the best one. We're gonna be the best D 248 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: line and we're gonna be the best D line. But 249 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: I want to be the best one. So you know 250 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: that's my that's my challenge for them, and you know 251 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: they accept. They know that. They know they accept that 252 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: for me, and I accept that for them as well. 253 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Like Trey, Me and Trey talk all the time. It's 254 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: like my little brother, and like he know and I 255 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: know he knows, I'm gonna be the top dog Tree. 256 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: You gotta come give me well, he said, Josh, I'm 257 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: gonna be top doll. We're gonna work. You know what 258 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's that competitive edge man. We need to compete. 259 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: You know. I want to be the best. You want 260 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: to be the best. We want to be the best together, 261 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: and we keep we got to keep proving it right. 262 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Everybody can do it one time, everybody, look do it 263 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: two times, three times. 264 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: That's where I got to get to the world. The 265 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: world tries to crown people king over one year. If 266 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: you've been in this Lee long enough. I'm like, yeah, 267 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: but show me three four years. You can do it 268 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: three four years. I believe in the height. If you 269 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: do it for one year, anybody can catch a lick. Anybody, 270 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: anybody can roll the dice and be amazing off one roll. 271 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Show me if you can continue, you know, and then 272 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: you got to keep it like that that building like 273 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: and and the greatest thing about you just said is 274 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, like i'ma be topped doll, but I want 275 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: you to come get me. It's like I used to 276 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: tell the d Lion. I'm telling d Lion all the time. 277 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: I like, Yo, if y'all can shine as bright as 278 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: y'all can, Like if y'all bring in everything y'all do, 279 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: y'all be amazing as you can think about how much 280 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: more amazing I'm gonna look too, Because like if you say, bro, 281 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a sword and you're your sword 282 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: and your sword everybody is what is these gleaming swords 283 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: call me Excalibur, Like I'm gonna be like I'm a 284 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: king slayer, you know what I'm saying. Like, and you 285 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: have to have that mentality in this game. So when 286 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: you come to it, like I want to make Brian 287 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Bezi the best he can be. I want to be uh, 288 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I want to I want to make Carl Grant's and 289 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: the best that he can be because by doing that, 290 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: that base their play, which is gonna push myself to 291 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: work even harder. 292 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: Sir. 293 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I just want to say, like, what 294 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: did you what did you do this differently? You know, 295 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: for years previous to this break, this huge monster's here. 296 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: You just had uh staying locked in. 297 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: You know. 298 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: I did a lot more reading this past year, my 299 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: audio books. Uh, lots more. 300 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Audio books, like books protecting. 301 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: Football or just mental mental mindset brooks, you know, being 302 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: able to stay locked in, uh, being able to control, 303 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, control what you could control. So for me 304 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: game days, man, I didn't listen to any music. You know. 305 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: I was really big on, you know, if anything was 306 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: to happen, I didn't want music to be the reason 307 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: why I didn't perform, you know, or it didn't I 308 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: didn't play my song. I didn't do this, just like 309 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: little things. So it was really big on how mentally 310 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: can I be in the game, Like I'm mentally confident. 311 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: I know. I studied this dude for so long. I 312 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: studied his offense. For so long there was no music. 313 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: How did you keep your cane. 314 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: A lot there? I'm just breathing, watching the whole time. No, 315 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: I get in a dark room. So my first thing, 316 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: my people find me a dark room. I get a 317 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: dark room. I go in there. I just chill out, 318 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: control my thoughts in the stadium, in the stadium, in 319 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: the locker room. 320 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Once you once you get to the stadium. 321 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: I find you know, my people give me a dark room. 322 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: I go in there, and you know, I take a 323 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: little nap. I read my book. First of all. I 324 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: read my book so I can like get off of football, 325 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: get off of you know, any feeling that I'm about 326 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: to feel, and just have like a you know, I 327 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: got better off of reading, you know, and I'm reading 328 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: things that's that can apply to me in this game. 329 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: So I'm reading these books. I'm taking naps. I listen 330 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: to a little jazz here. And I got that from Lebron. Uh, 331 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: I got that from Brin. I definitely take that from Bro. 332 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: And you stay on the first page I read, Okay, 333 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: I read I've been reading this uh Relentlessness by Tim Grover, 334 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: and you know he talks about three areas of people. 335 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: You got a cooler, cleaner, you got a cool you 336 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: got a cleaner, and you got a closer. I'm a cleaner. 337 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: You know, look. 338 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Cleaner, cleaner. What's the cleaner? 339 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: Guy that do it right? You know a guy that 340 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: do it right half the time, and you got to 341 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: cooler that guy that's just out there. You know, I 342 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: don't want to. You know they talking about clutch people. 343 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: You know, clutch people come come in clutch moments. I 344 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: want't be a player that come in at all moments. 345 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: And so if I can continue to have that mindset, 346 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: continue to challenge myself, continue to push myself in practice, 347 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: first one on the field, last one to leave. Really 348 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: doing things that's applying myself to get better during practice. 349 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: You know, I do things pre practice to get better 350 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: during practice, and then I do the things that after 351 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: practice that I didn't do right in practice. So every 352 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: day I just feel like I'm getting better. You know, 353 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm eating right. You know, my family, My family is situated. 354 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: I make sure that my wife is you know, stable 355 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: enough that if I'm not in a house we're covering 356 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: my body or sleeping in this hyperbarrick, that everything's okay 357 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: and make sure I spend time with my kids and 358 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: obviously tell them, let them know why I'm doing what 359 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing. And also I take them with me sometimes, 360 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: so you know, making sure everything in my life is 361 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: is what it's supposed to be so I can play. 362 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: That's why kids like we had to chill out on 363 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: the kids. 364 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, three three is a plenty. 365 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: There is a lot. 366 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: It gets to be a lot, especially in season. You know, wife, 367 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you need a date night, we. 368 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: Can do day night, Tuesday night. We day nights Tuesday, Tuesday, 369 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: today night. 370 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: You guys do like a defensive line dinner defense. 371 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: So again, so you know, un fortunate. We've been building 372 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: our house for three years and it just got finished 373 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: right before I signed my contract. You know, so prior 374 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: to that, I was like what, I don't know what 375 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna do, you know, like we're gonna sell it, 376 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna move here, we gotta do this. And then 377 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: we get our house done, and then a couple days 378 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: ago we signed our contract. So it's like this is 379 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: our future. We built it for our family and so like, 380 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: and now we got built to where we can entertain, 381 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: like we have spaces for the kids. And then we 382 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: have people now we can have people over, So I 383 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: kind of want to That's where he said, take more 384 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: control and take more lead, come over. You know we 385 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: did dinners. Yeah, but I want to do more of 386 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: like a chill like come to the crib. Maybe we'll 387 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: watch the game, maybe watch some tape. You know, I 388 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: got a good setup to where I can entertain a 389 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: lot more people, and I want to take more control 390 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: in that. And you know, this is my team. They 391 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: pay me to be that guy. Yeah, you know, so 392 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: it's time to take over. 393 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, act accordingly. Look on our defense. We do defense 394 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: every defense, dinners every other Thursday, and like it just 395 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: goes from like the pecking order, ogill pay the you 396 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: know the so it's now it's me the oldest guy 397 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: in the room. Pay the next time that it just goes, 398 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, from whoever on and then every other week 399 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: the d line will go eat you know. So then 400 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: so it's always just like camaraderie. It's always like trying 401 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to figure out how like what motivates my teammates off 402 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: the field, on the field, whatever it is, so I 403 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: can be just have that relatable moment like in game 404 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: if things get huge, it's like all right, bro, Like, 405 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I just need you to lock in with me, like 406 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: we've gone through enough. I know enough about you, like 407 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I know how to lock you in, you know, like 408 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I feel like those off the 409 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: field moments creates that trust and that camaraderie that you 410 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: sort of need to achieve success in the season. Yes, sir, 411 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: for you to have folks up to the house. Man, 412 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I ain't no way with the kids. It ain't no 413 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: way only because I know I'm not helping clean nothing. 414 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Hey, that's why you hire help. 415 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Facts. At the end of the day, my wife gonna 416 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: look at me like are you helping? And I'm gonna 417 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: look at her like these hands is broke. 418 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: I gotta take I can take the trash help, you know. 419 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: I do a little dishes, you know. That's why you 420 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: got to have the paper plates, and you throw a 421 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: lot of stuff away, you know. So we we kind 422 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: of we kind of been planning on this from minute now. 423 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: I got you to take out the trash and that's 424 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: where I take the trash out quick and we got 425 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: it right to. 426 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: It opening doors right there. Hey, I'm big on take 427 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: off the trash. That's where it stops. Though, this has 428 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: been here for a while, you're talking to me. I 429 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: love you. I load the dishwashing. 430 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope unloaded, unloaded. I don't know. I 431 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: just feel like I'm like, why it takes so long? 432 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: But loading the dishwasher. Dishwasher? 433 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I said while we was dating, 434 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: I said that precedents very Hey, hey, I can take 435 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: the trash out. I ain't got nothing for you after this, 436 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: so I'm stay consistent. 437 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, stay tuned. 438 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So you're being at the sack summit, right, 439 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: How does this? How's this fitting to your goals of improving? 440 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: Man? Just I like to learn, I like to see 441 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: see my already came. I already got questions that I 442 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: want to ask certain people, and you're one of the 443 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: people I wanted to definitely chop it up with on 444 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: just you know how you I know how I break 445 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: down film, But like, what other tendencies do you look 446 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: at when you you know, when you're looking at a tackle, 447 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: you're looking at an offensive scheme? Like what is what 448 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: is telltale signs that you can see on film? You know? 449 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: Like that's really what I want to get to, you know, 450 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: I'm not big social outside. You know this that you know, 451 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: if I catch you, I catch you. Just like when 452 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: we played, y'all, you know, it was my moment. We 453 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: had a little time. I'm gonna go say what's up? 454 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: Told you you know what I'm saying, like, show my 455 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: respect Clays. And I was with Clays and one thing 456 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: he told me, Man, if you really love his game, 457 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: you gotta respect it. You got to respect the people 458 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: who paid it for you. So for me, it was like, 459 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: I've always you know, and I loved the game. I 460 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: always loved the game. So for him to say that 461 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: to me, so it's like when I do play against 462 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: another guy, I have to you know, I respect you know, 463 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: I respect the game. I respect what you've done. Not 464 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: a lot of people have done what you've done. So 465 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: it was a moment for me to show, you know, 466 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: show show, show show. My value to you is that 467 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm coming to get you, bro, and I respect what 468 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: you do and I love it because I want to 469 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: be there one day. 470 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: And that club it's a club for a reason. Come 471 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: join me. I gotta get push. I'm gonna push this 472 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: bard over for twenty five thirty sacks and come on 473 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying that just like it, 474 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: and you all got goals. 475 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Because because Ryan, he's been showing me a lot of 476 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: your tape man, and so I've definitely been tapped in 477 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 2: a lot more so, you know, and I like what 478 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, I appreciate that, but I can't do 479 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 2: what you do. 480 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, there's a lot of boods that 481 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: you do that. I'm like, ah, I'm not, but I 482 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: know me got a lot of masks to him. 483 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 484 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Nilson came in probably like year six or seven. 485 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: For me, it was like hey, man, mask kicks, I 486 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: need you big. And I was like, well, say lest 487 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm your guy from beginn But I mean it's crazy 488 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that you now you got Ryan Nielsen. He's different as 489 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: a decordinator than it was his D line coach. You 490 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: get like the relaxed Ryan Nielsen Ryan Nilson DL coach 491 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: hands on twenty four to seven. I believe he like 492 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: like he feeling the need to fire you up at 493 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: every moment. You're like, just take a breath, let me 494 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: talk to you over here. Let me let me talk 495 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: to you over here. So we don't have to we 496 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: don't have to have this, you know, because like you know, 497 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: when a new coach comes in, you know, it's like 498 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: he's he pays the way. It's like, hey, my way 499 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: to the highway, and I'm like, come to this highway 500 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: real quick. We're gonna make it our way. 501 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know. And that's that's real that 502 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 2: you said that, because you know, I know what I 503 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: do best, you know, and what I do best kind 504 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: of doesn't it's not it's not like what he's was 505 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: like teaches to do. So to have that conversation that 506 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: sitting down with him, to have that conversation, he coach, 507 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: this is what I do best, right, and but I 508 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: do like what he did help me out. He said 509 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: to to He said three different things. Rush angles, you know, 510 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: speed rush, got to change the power angle rush. And 511 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: he made me simplified. He made me like made it 512 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: so simple. Give him power and he's gonna stop his feet. 513 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: What you got office a linement are dumb? 514 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: So like it that the same going It was half 515 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: of the linement, like they're literally cattle. 516 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what you do last? 517 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: Like which way did you go? 518 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: George? 519 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: That's the top of the lineman in general, and like 520 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: there's smarter ones I'm sure that can count the three, 521 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: but like, you know, for real, it's like it's like 522 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: if you kill him with the speed, move one one one, 523 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: put one down, like you can literally just be like 524 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: all right, now here's my counter. Like all they remember 525 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: is the last. 526 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: Now that's it, and it's yeah, he told me. He 527 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: told me those things, and I was like, I want 528 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 2: to go train on my own. I'm like, he just 529 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: made it a lot easier for me. So when I 530 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: want to study, it's like, you know, when I watch 531 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: your tape, what angle is he rushing at? Especially if 532 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: we're playing against a guy that we're about to see 533 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: this year, Like he worshed with his speed, and what 534 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: did his feet do? His feet kept going, his feet stopped? 535 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: So this is my counter. So it's like, you know, 536 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: putting moves that a lot of people do, But what 537 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: move can I do? You know, I'm a cross chop. Absolutely, 538 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: side saisions is not my thing, right, but cross chop? 539 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 2: How can I threaten you to get the same reaction 540 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: that you just got to put him in this position? 541 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: You know? So there's just things things I think I. 542 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: Stole my side swipe from like Alex okafort I becoming 543 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: like whatever it is. As I'm watching film, like, you know, 544 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: my my arm over I've been doing forever, but I 545 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: took I took that. I took that power move from 546 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: from Klay's campbell. I'm like, oh that was like after 547 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: I was like to catch my arm over. I can 548 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: try and work and work back inside with this. I'm 549 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: never going to be a hump guy, but I. 550 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: Like I can throw that thing. 551 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: I can, I can try to throw it, like I 552 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: still I still like different angles from all different rushers. 553 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: I look at Danil Hunter and I'm like, oh, that 554 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: long arm crazy and that like he has that that's 555 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: like his chop is just like vertically down. I'm feeling 556 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: moves at every like as much film as I watched. 557 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: I stopped watching film on officeive linemen and started watching 558 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: film on concepts, schemes and other defensive ends because I 559 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: love I love the way you know we rush or 560 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: how you rush or how Trayvon rushes. 561 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: When did you get when'd you When did you get 562 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: out of that? When did you get out of that? Realm? 563 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: Probably like year three, I was like so focused on like, oh, 564 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: what's he doing? What's he doing? I could care less 565 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: what he's doing because it's like he has to work 566 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: in work within the scheme. He has to work in 567 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: like if they're a pulling team or motion team, whatever 568 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: it is, he has to work in his confinements. And 569 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: then again, offensive linemen like if they were if they 570 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: were actually athletes, they would have played on the defensive side. 571 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: And that's like you'd be like, oh, man, he used 572 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: to be you know, he was a basketball player and 573 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: now he's fat, so he's an offensive lineman. Or like 574 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: oh he was a de tackle and he was a tackle, 575 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: but then he got fat and now he's a guard. 576 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: You know, like if you were twitchy, you would be 577 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: on this side. If you you know, if you were 578 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: as fast as they say, you be on on this side. 579 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: So I look at them as just you know, they're like, 580 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: oh he has great obstacles, Like his one job is 581 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: to hold dear life for three seconds. 582 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: Do you know it's crazy that you say that, because 583 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: I look at these dudes, that's how can I get 584 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: them to this arm slab? So when I was here 585 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 2: to when I was here for the last summer and 586 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: they had me up there speaking, but I was so 587 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: in shock. I'm like, I'm here breaking out my tape. 588 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh. And I was talking to uh uh 589 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: justin Houston, and he was like, Bro, you gotta work 590 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: on you gotta work on the arm, you know, on 591 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: the arm sleds. You better be on there every single day, 592 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: every single day. You gotta know what you do. You 593 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: gotta trust what you do, because right now I don't 594 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: like your trusting what you're doing. You gotta go into 595 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: the trust real. And I'm telling I got you every 596 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: day I've been to this day, still do I even 597 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: one at the crib. I got my kids, I got 598 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: my kids. I'm trying to tell you. I tell my kids. 599 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: I say, hey, boys, what daddy do for living sack quarterbacks? 600 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: What y'all do for living sack quarterbacks? So let's do it. 601 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like training. I get it. Come on, we work, 602 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: let's work this cross shot. I get my oldest, I 603 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: gotta work with the eyes closed. I switch it up 604 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: on my poset and I get back on and got 605 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 2: my second boy. He getting quicker on it now, six 606 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: years old. 607 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Out there work. 608 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it because I feel like if I 609 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: can train them to do it, then I'm always keeping 610 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: it on my mind. You know what I mean, so 611 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: I think it kind of that's what I do. So 612 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: it's like if I can do what I do just 613 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: without thinking, then it's like who can stop me? In 614 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: my mind? Because if you if I can't cross chopping, 615 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run down your face and start that. And 616 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: now you're thinking about me running out your face. 617 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: And that I cross I'm thinking at it. 618 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: So it's you know, everything got a plan in my mind. 619 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: But you know right now to eighty five Oh me too, 620 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: eighty five dollars system, Yeah, come. 621 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: On in mass kicks ass more power, Okay, And I've 622 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: been liking it. 623 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I've been liking it. 624 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Look you say that until you like fifty snaps in 625 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: in that back. 626 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: That back. They told me, they, Josh, I know you 627 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: like to play, well, we're gonna have to rotate you 628 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: a little bit. 629 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 630 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I gotta fill it out, coach. And we 631 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: argued about that for a little bit. But I'm starting 632 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: to understand the reason and of the madness. But I 633 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: like to play, right. I got that from Kalayis. Kalays 634 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: he never want to get out the game. I used 635 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: to hate playing behind class, but Clays, I got you 636 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: it's it's ten players in class. I'm good, man, I'm good. 637 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm good. 638 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm about the game. Bro Come on, man, let me 639 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: get it up. But uh, but I feel like the 640 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: longer I can get into a. 641 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Groove, you feel, you feel the flow, and you feel like. 642 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm seeing I ain't see this. Look at this hill 643 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: he leaning on he rockets, you know. It's like, you know, 644 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: those are things I get when I'm in the when 645 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm in the game. If i'm watching, I'm not I'm 646 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: watching this day, I'm looking at the ball, rust a 647 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: run or it's I'm not you. 648 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, that flowed the game. 649 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: It's serious, it's real. 650 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 651 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 2: Now. 652 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Tell me about this. You like, you've had You've had rushers, 653 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: but now you've got Trayvon Walker on the other side. Uh, 654 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: what if you've given him so his game is like 655 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: you become a counterpart to him, you know, so they 656 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: have to worry about you and him, you know, they 657 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: double team you. They got to work about Trayvon or 658 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, whatever whatever he's doing. You know, if you 659 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: guys switch sides, it's like, what are you looking looking 660 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: at his moves or is he looking at you? Or 661 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: it's like, how are you guys rushing the corrala quarterback? 662 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a trust. I always tell him to 663 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: trust himself. You know you didn't. You didn't get here 664 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: for no reason. You know, and trust your process and 665 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: trust your moves. You know what I'm saying, Like I 666 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: just told you, I know what moves. I know I 667 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: can win on. I've trained it, I've trusted it. I've 668 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: instilled it in my mind and body that I can 669 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: work these moves and you and now I can do it. Trey, 670 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: you have to do the same thing. You have to 671 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: mold your body. What do you do best? His get off? 672 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: His get off is insane, Like getting to point A 673 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: to point B is probably the best I've ever seen 674 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: in person. You know, he's strong, he's long. So it's 675 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: just like, okay, you're fighting this dude. Your get off 676 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: is five yards, ten yards and two steps? Right now? 677 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: You on them because you just naturally like that, Well, 678 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: how are you gonna beat him? Now? Like when you 679 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: get on them, what are you gonna do? What's your plan? 680 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: You know? 681 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Run down? Well, okay, well if he started that, then 682 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 2: what's your next plan? Now? It's angles? So now if 683 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: you keep running with this, you know, you power angle them, 684 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: but you get him sized scissors? Right, How is that working? 685 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: How are you making it? 686 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So you gotta really you know, 687 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: And there's been games where Bro just consistently just whipping dudes, 688 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: you know, because he knows what he's doing, you know 689 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I think just consistently like being 690 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: on top of him and helping him out because you know, 691 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: I always felt like, you know, I'm just do this 692 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: by myself, but also be accountable for everybody else. But 693 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: now it's like trade. But we've also had times with Trade, 694 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, right, we know that they running a time 695 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: or not inside. All right, I'm gonna go. 696 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You go hard quarterback flush and you 697 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: know you really feed if you step up, it's me 698 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: if he if he flushed around, it's got to be you. 699 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's one thing with Tray two is like 700 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: having that trust with each other because it was it 701 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: all changed for me. We played Miami in the preseason 702 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: and we did a flush game and like in practice, 703 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: we did it and Tray stopped, like he didn't finish 704 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: the flush. He just stopped and the quarterback just flushed out, 705 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: and so it was like, bro, you gotta do it. 706 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: And then in the game we did it, did the 707 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: same thing. He stopped at the quarterback flushed out. So 708 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: it was like it was like that moment where it 709 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: was like, no more, everything that we do, everything that 710 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: we trained for in practice is going to happen. So 711 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: let's not train bad habits in practice and walk through 712 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: and all the things that we do. Let's make sure 713 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: we're excellent and everything we do so when we get 714 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: into the game, is it's even better or it's better, 715 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like at least have that 716 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: habit of doing it. So you know, that's one thing 717 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: that we just talk about all the time, like in practice, 718 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: Like you know, when we communicate, we communicate it ain't 719 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: know like yeah, yeah, I hear you. Nah. If you 720 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: tell me you want to work something, you want to 721 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: work something, I trust you. I trust what you see. 722 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. And it goes vice versas, but 723 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: not only us, but the interior as well. Hey hey, 724 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: I got an exit right here. I've been watching on 725 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: tape second and long. He likes to just tag like 726 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: a kickset, so boo, and that's gonna give you a 727 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: lot Hey texted, texted, or goose it or you know 728 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, hit that ads because he's coming out 729 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: to me, or we can run a quick exit because 730 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: he's bailing. So it's just like having that trust, and 731 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: that's where I want to get to. It's like having 732 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: that trust between the line that you know, when me 733 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: and Clay's rushed it said one thing. We said one 734 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: or two things to each other and it was like 735 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: sack because we trusted each other. He said something, Hey, 736 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: Jo's run a text. 737 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: You're all right, cool, gotta run it. Boom, I'm hitting it. 738 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Text sack. 739 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Clay's exit, exit, got you your fellow but booom 740 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: exit Sack. You know what I'm saying. So, but we 741 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: had that trust, and that was the thing that we 742 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: was hanging out outside the building as well. So it's 743 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: like we had like I want to bring that officially 744 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: to Jacksonville, you know, and I think we got a 745 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: lot of we got a good core now that's been there. Yeah, 746 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: So it's like I know what we're getting into and 747 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: I know what we can be. 748 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: Think about this when you're setting up moves right on 749 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the edge to understand angles. It's a lot like hooping, right, 750 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: It's about getting your man off centered. So like in 751 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: my mind, if I'm on the edge and I'm like yo, 752 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: and like you know, when you're really teeing off you 753 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: have two three sacks or you're just killing your dude, 754 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: he go to the sideline. I'm like, I'm hooping right now. 755 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm in my bag. I heard you. I heard you 756 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: hoop back in the gap, right, got a little little 757 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: basketball to you. Does that Do you think that helps 758 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: you out to play football? Uh? 759 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely care But you don't want to have 760 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: that mindset, that basketball mindset playing for nobody. I said, 761 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: that's what I said. 762 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the ability to isol the ability 763 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: to shift your weight to shift angles, like you know 764 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: when you exactly that band for sure. 765 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely when I look at uh, when 766 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: I watched Vron, you know back in because I told 767 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: you I've been on the Super Bowl journey, right, So 768 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: when I watched back to the fifteen when he went 769 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: on that little run, he was the best player in 770 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: the playoffs whole every game. And the way for him 771 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: to work that bending keep going full speed is just 772 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: how do you do that? How do you work that? 773 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: How do you get to that angle? Like what was 774 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: your mindset? What was your what was your thought process? 775 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 2: Like what what did you do to get yourself in 776 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: that position at all times? If that was the that 777 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: was because he was just power rushing and as soon 778 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: as he stopped his feet just running around him. So 779 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: it's like that's the that's like you're about to cross. 780 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: So I can see it all relate. Obviously. I come 781 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: from a basketball family as well. Right If you know 782 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: my sister in w n B A, So I watch 783 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: her a lot, and she a big post player, and 784 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: I love seeing her get in the post because the 785 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: idea get a post, everybody back on the sheet work 786 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: in that spere. So I think body position all matters. 787 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: You having a power angle, I'm rushing you, I just 788 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: ran down your face. I might know I might not 789 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: a one, but you felt me run on your face. 790 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: So now when I give you that same illusion, just 791 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: like you said, they don't get that same illusion, you're 792 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: gonna stop your feet getting ready. 793 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: To catch it. 794 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: Now you can't recover. So I think it, dude, got 795 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: a good you know, I think it does matter. 796 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: Foundation where it transfers over absolutely, now do you agree with? 797 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, was that a month ago, a month and 798 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: a half ago when Austin Rivers hit everybody with the 799 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: there's more NBA players that could transfer over to the NFL, 800 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, the NBA, And I was like, that don't 801 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: make sense, Like we're talking about height differential. And even then, 802 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: who like Austin Rivers. I'm like, I'm saying, who would like? 803 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: Who would who could? Who could play? Who could have 804 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: a successful career from the NBA to NFL? 805 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: Right? Them dudes is huge, They're tall, bro Polo. I 806 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: went to the Magic playoff game man and I took 807 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: a picture. But I'm big, right, you know. I took 808 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: a picture about this dude. This dude is mass tall. 809 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: How do you play? 810 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Like? 811 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: What do you play? Would you play? You play tight end? 812 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: You're dying, You're you're getting her, You're dying. You can't 813 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: you can't run over the middle. But it's over. It's 814 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: over anything six seven and above you at tight end, 815 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: you're just a red zone threat or your your career 816 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: is over. 817 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: Them boys not playing receiver, right, the boys not playing running? 818 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: But who playing running back? 819 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: Look? I see I see basketball players like like run 820 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: routes and they look like Buddy off of off of 821 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: American whatever, bro, And I'm like, like, it's it's just 822 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: be upset, like, man, I really got it like that. 823 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: But guys can really hoop like we got hooping. We 824 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: got there's some people in the in the NFL that 825 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: can really holp like and we the same size as them, 826 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 2: something somewhat to threes. You know what I'm saying. 827 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: We got a lot of fire one two threes for sure. 828 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: Translatable for I'm not gonna lie to you. There's not 829 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: twenty guys that are six eight and above. 830 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: And Trayvon shout out to Trey. Trey's a dog. He's 831 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: a whole. Yes, Travon Walker, He's a dog like dog 832 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: in the post. Yeah, you know, I used to be 833 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: trying to hate because like but then I'm really watching 834 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: like damn, I got it, damn like big body like 835 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: and it looked good too, bro, real smooth, okayes. 836 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the h last? What I have for 837 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: you is is who's the best dresser on your team? 838 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: Best dressed game? They fits in and out, not just 839 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: not just oh he was killing them one week consistency. 840 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: We got a couple of guys. We had a couple 841 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: of guys. Can I put myself in it? You can 842 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 2: if you think if you can definitely put myself on there. 843 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm more of a classical you know, if 844 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, you know type of dude, you know, but 845 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: looking really clean. We got Roy who wears like a 846 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: lot of colorful, you know, suits and who can really 847 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: put it together. Big Roy, Big Roy. And you got 848 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: got Cisco, Roy Robinson, Robinson Harris, Yeah, you got him. 849 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: And then you got Andre Cisco, who's more of the 850 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: you know, the the uh retro or more up to 851 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: date fashion trends. He come out with some stuff I like, uh, Kurt. 852 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: Kurt Kirk is like five. Now that's what I'm saying. 853 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: I'll be good one hundred ten pounds Okay. He used 854 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: to fit everything, thank you. Okay, Just like I say 855 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: that with shoe sizes, like, dude, man, you can't cut 856 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: to me on the you wear thirteen, dude, I can't 857 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: wear those dudes. 858 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: I gotta see. 859 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: I gotta win my Zenians dogs just to wear black sneakers. 860 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I got the Gucci, I 861 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: got I got I got wear Zena shoes, right, But 862 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: it's all for the big guys. 863 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: Bro, Like, it gets hard, it gets hard to drip, 864 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: and yet we find the way. You don't say drip, 865 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: don't drown. 866 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: No, what's the hair do this year? Bro? 867 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: Man, I'm just too stranding up, bro, I'm just just 868 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: saying light. I've been I've been playoff list for for 869 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: like three years. I'm focused in. I might even chop 870 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: it all off, just like I could kill all maintenance work. 871 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm focused in. I'm locked in. We're gonna 872 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: make it real simple. I was gonna have fun with it. 873 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, like three years of no playoffs, 874 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: you don't get to have fun. I need to win 875 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, like I've got. I got two years 876 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: left in this thing. You know, congratulations too, they just 877 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: get paid. 878 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: No, that's just an extension, bro, Like yeah, congratulations though. 879 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like, give me a Year fifteen. Man, we 880 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: just slide in. 881 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: Congratulations on that too, but put the same franchise. It's tough, 882 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: you know. I'm trying to be right behind. 883 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Year fourteen coming in doing a super Bowl. I said, 884 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you there, yescause I'm being that thing, yes, sir, 885 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: but appreciate you jumping on the pod. Shout out to 886 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: everybody who has made you the man that you are today, 887 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: because clearly you got your head on the right way. 888 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: And I just want to say thank you for stopping 889 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: by off the edge with me and your host Cam 890 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: j Hey, I just like looking back at him to 891 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: look back at you, to look back at him. 892 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate you bro always brother, Appreciate you having me on