1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: All right, third hour play and Buck kicks off now, 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: thanks for being here with us. Got the big breaking 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: news of the day that O. J. Simpson has died 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: after his fight with cancer. He is spurring a lot 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: of remembrance, not in a good way, but remembrance of 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: the OJ trial and uh and the verdict and and 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: what happened what he did in his life as a 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: as a heinous and awful wife of using, a murdering, 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: thieving Really it's just an absolutely grotesque human being. And 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: he's just died. And I know that usually we don't 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: speak ill of the dead, but when the when the 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: dead really deserve it, I think sometimes you got to 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: break the guideline. It's not an ironclad rule. He's a 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: really bad person. And to Clay's point, he's never he 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: never took any responsibility really for anything that he did 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: and and kind of lived his final I don't know, 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: twenty years or so, just in some golf and hedonism 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: lifestyle down in Las Vegas, right, I Mean that's basically 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: where he moved to and would still pose for, you know, 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: photos with random people. And it was kind of enjoying 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: some degree of celebrity, which I don't know a lot 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: of things about American celebrity culture that bothered me. But 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: anybody thinking that taking a photo with OJ is something 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: that I don't know, be proud over celebrate it seems 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: very bizarre to me. 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't play. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll kind of put it to you, man, 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we're always passing the ball here back and forth. 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: Do you want to do you want to dive back 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: into the OJ thing or do you want to talk 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: about inflation prices? Gavin Newsom doesn't want to pay the 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: twenty dollars minimum wage in his own restaurant. 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: You see that. 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised because twenty dollars minimum way, he's going 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: to put a lot of fast food restaurants out of business. 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I think the real legacy of OJ is I think 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: most people this is my concern. I'm curious how you 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: would analyze this. In nineteen ninety five, most people thought 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: OJ was guilty and were disgusted by the outcome of 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: that trial. That was the massive consensus opinion, and nobody 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: really tried to justify OJ's innocence by anything other than well, 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Like I 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: don't think there were very many people who thought that 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: oj was innocent. I think they thought that maybe the 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: prosecution had not proved his guilt beyond a reasonable. 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: You really think that. I thought I always thought that 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: it was that this was a payback. It was Rodney 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: King payback. 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: Right. 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: The jurors have said, we actually even have a I 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: think we got a clip. Yeah, yeah, I we'll see 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: if we have have this centered into the system. The 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: jurors even said, no, it's payback for Rodney King. And 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: this I just want to know for anybody who says 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: it's payback again it's a racist system. How many defenseless 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: white people should have their heads almost cut off by 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: a maniac in order to make up for the sin 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: of racism in the system. 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, you know, there. 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: Was two would would ten be? Would ten be? You 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: know if we had ten people that were killed with that? 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: Is it like a once a year thing? Is this 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: is this like a like human sacrifice like what the 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: Aztecs had. This line of argument is an abomination, and 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: somehow we're supposed to accept, Oh, this was a rejection 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: of the system. Well, okay, it was two people that 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: were brutally murdered, Why only two? My system has been 70 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: around for it's still around. The system was around for 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: hundreds of years. It's bad system. 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: My concern is more people would explicitly say today that 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: because of racism in the past, there should be injustice today. 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Like I think the identity politics and woke culture has 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: become more explicit even than it was back then. 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: We do have. 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: My concern is that OJ today would actually be far 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: nastier and far more people would be saying OJ shouldn't 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: even stand trial because America is such a racist country. 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: He has no culpability here. I think more people would 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: say that today than said it in nineteen ninety four. 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, I mean, there would be people 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: who would make that argument. I agree that. I don't 84 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: think more people would say that now. I think that 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: would be tough. 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: I also think the fact that he killed a woman, 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: you know, there's be a little bit to justify. 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: Well. 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: I just think that the you know, the meets you 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: era and all the all the abuse. I mean, he 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: was a wife beater. We all know this. This was 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: well established, so he's a wife beater who killed his wife. 93 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's that gets to be a 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: tough thing for a lot of Look, there are democrats. 95 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: There are democrats who then in now are like he 96 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: was totally guilty, he's awful, and the verdict was a 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: you know, a shame. But that did exist then, I 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: think there were then I think there would be fewer 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: like that. What I'm saying is like the Joe Biden Democrat, 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: the Bill Clinton Democrat of nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: five wanted to lock up criminals and throw away the key. 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: That Joe Biden, Bill Clinton Democrat today would say America 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: is a racist. 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: I would also say. 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: On the scale white woman ranks below black men on 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: the identity politics matimization's course, so me too. I don't 107 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: think would really apply on the same level. Got it 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: of a white guy did to a black woman what 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: oj was accused of, then it would be like unacceptable. 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: As you know, the U and this is this is 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: there's evidence of this that you can see very clearly 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: in the usage of the term racism, white nationalists, white supremacy. 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: The really President Obama, who we were led to believe 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: what would heal the racial device. Post racial president made 115 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: it far worse and intentionally did so, did so as 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: a tool of Democrat politics and Democrat power. And that's 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: obvious from the first of all, the first version of 118 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: BLM BLM one point zero, which started under Obama, which 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people forget if you have 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 2: the first black president and you're going to have riots 121 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: and cities across America because a cop shot a black 122 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: guy who had just done a strong arm robbery and was, 123 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: according to black eye witnesses, trying to rush the officer, 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: like trying to tackle him to the ground. He was 125 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: much larger than the police officer was. Eric Holders own 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: Justice depart and found that that was that was what 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: the evidence actually suggested, what the eyewitnesses suggested. But BLM 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: one point zero was like this explosion of race rage 129 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: on the streets of American cities that happened under Obama. 130 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Obama made all this worse, and I think that's one 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: part of his legacy that is unfortunately one of the 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: most enduring in that you still have, I think a 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: much more challenging environment for race in this country now 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 2: than you would have had in the early two thousands 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: for example. 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Ninety four. 137 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: That's my concern that we're in a worse place with 138 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: race relations today based on many of our public figures 139 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: and what they would say than we were ninety four 140 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: to ninety five. 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: But listen, we want to play this cut. This is 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: one of the. 143 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: OJ jurors saying, we all knew that he was guilty, basically, 144 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: but this was about revenge or retribution. 145 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: Listen, do you think that they're members of the jury 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: that voted to a quotoj because of Rodney King? 147 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: Yes? 148 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: You do. How many of you think felt that way? 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: Did you feel that way? 151 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 152 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: That was payback. 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: I just was again, I'm sorry, I thought I thought 154 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: the clip was over there, but she said, yes, it 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: was payback. Uh why why was just that? Why not 156 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: just no convictions of any any black murderer in that 157 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: year who would kill the white person. 158 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: No convictions. We're just every jury. 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: Should say, no, you know this very arbitrary and self justifying. 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: This was payback? Thing is insane. 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't This was a and I know 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: it was the dominant theme and the jurors believed it. 163 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: And this is the complete perversion of a justice system 164 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: and of basic morality. 165 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: Also, remember, and somebody can look this up and confirm it. 166 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: They moved the trial to city as opposed to West LA. 167 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: And I don't remember exactly what the reason was, but 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the murder occurred in Brentwood, which is a super rich, 169 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: frankly at that time and still I think, super white 170 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: area of LA. So you would have if they had 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: tried this case in West LA, you would have gotten 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: a completely different jury. It would have been a jury 173 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: that was more likely to be in Brentwood, probably Nicole 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Brown Simpson right. Instead, they went to the city court system, 175 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: and I can't remember the exactly legal rationale by which 176 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: they did that, but you ended up with a far 177 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: more diverse jury pool, such that the people on that 178 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: jury were open to the Johnny Cockran style argument, which 179 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: probably would have blown up in his face if he 180 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: had tried it at the time in West LA. 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: It would have been certainly different. I would just say, uh, 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, one of the formative moments in American jurisprudence, 183 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: and we all know, we all learned about it in 184 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: school was the John Adams defense of the British of 185 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: the British soldiers in Boston, and they were hated at 186 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: that time, but John Adams took the approach of these 187 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: are human beings who were acting as human beings do 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: in a situation where we are judging them based on 189 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: the laws and their actions. Only it's not do we 190 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: like King George. It's not it's did these people break 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: the law. And that's why I think it's such a 192 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: powerful moment, because that's the really the single the singular 193 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: focus or singular truth of what the American justice system 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: is supposed to be. When someone is on trial, that person, 195 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: what did they do, what can be proven? What are 196 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: their actions not I don't like what someone else did 197 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: five years ago or fifty years ago, and this person 198 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: has the same skin color, or as the same nationality 199 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: or anything else, right, And what we saw with the 200 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: oj Simpson verdict was with one hundred million people watching 201 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: the verdict as it happened, that principle was abandoned in 202 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: that incredibly high profile case, and it was this is 203 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: a makeup for some perceived racial injustice. That argument, I think, 204 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: legitimately on a stage against anyone in America, I could 205 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: make that argument look like the moral the immoral atrocity 206 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: that it is because it's completely arbitrary, and it's just 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: based on emotion and resentment and wim and you know, 208 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: I think that's why so many people were to play 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: just groached out by the whole thing and found it 210 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: just so grotesque. And there is that I gave and 211 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: Cold the credit for it. She was writing about at 212 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: the time and still says it to this day. That 213 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: was a turning point because early nineties there were such 214 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: high crime in American people said, you know what, We're 215 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: just going to lock up the criminals. We're not going 216 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: to sit around and worry about disparate impact. We're just 217 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: going to lock up the criminals. And there was a change, 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: a change in the sense of the criminal justice system 219 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: that occurred. 220 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: And my concern, I hate I'm gonna be negative for 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: two days in a row. My concern is, I think 222 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: race relations are worse today than they were in nineteen 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: ninety four nineteen ninety five, and they were bad then, 224 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: I think they got better, and then I think in 225 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: the second half of the Obama administration, certainly things got 226 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: way worse. And I think we're in a worse place 227 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: today than we were in nineteen ninety four, nineteen ninety five. 228 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: Well, this is a much broader conversation. 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: But I think that you know, the most secure, like 230 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: the most loyal, secured, loyal vote of any group in 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: the country is of lack American voters the Democrat Party. 232 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: And I think it just take a just take an 233 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: arbitrary period of time. The last twenty years, the Democrat 234 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: Party has, based on all of its promises, all of 235 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: its policies, has consistently failed Black American voter correct fails them, yeah, 236 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: over and over again, puts them in worse circumstances. But 237 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: now they're living because of Democrat policies, Black Americans live 238 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: in predominantly in cities, higher crime areas than they would otherwise. 239 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: They're competing with illegals, not just for jobs, but for 240 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: the resources of the state. You know, black Americans are Americans. 241 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: These people who are showing up from you know, wherever, 242 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: they're not even supposed to be here, but the resources 243 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: that are going I mean, you start to see this 244 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: play out play and this is why, unfortunately, it creates 245 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: the spiral of just more destruction because the Democrat Party, 246 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, Chuck Schumer's not going to say, yeah, we failed, 247 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: your policies are idiotic. And are bad for Black Americans, 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: are bad for black families. They're going to say, Oh, 249 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: it's just it's racism is the problem, and it's just 250 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: the racism of the other side that's the problem. 251 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Yet, which is why this is a stat that I 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: think is hard to overcome. Nineteen sixty, seventy five percent 253 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: of black kids are born in two parent households, seventy 254 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: five percent, twenty twenty twenty percent. I'm not I'm pretty 255 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: confident racism was worse in nineteen sixty than it is today. 256 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: How is it that the government has gotten more involved 257 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: in black family life and black families have collapsed? Just 258 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: think about that stat is hard to explain. If you 259 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: wanted to cite racism in nineteen sixty, I'd be more likely. 260 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: How has the black family collapsed in a less racist society. 261 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: It's because the government got involved in the black family 262 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: and destroyed it. That's what the data reflects. Cyber criminals 263 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: love this time of year, tax returned deadline time. They 264 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: prey on the uninformed, sending emails, text messages, making phone calls, 265 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: all to get your personal Infotes' important to know, I 266 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: know because I'm getting audited right now. 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Find it 290 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 291 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 292 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you. 293 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I actually think the OJ identity politics era and what 294 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: it unleashed is still We're still dealing with the echoes 295 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: and reverberations of that. 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: And if you think. 297 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: That BLM is gone, they will show back up. They're 298 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: already trying in an election year. They vanished for like 299 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: four years. Everybody suddenly says, oh, BLM, George Floyd's maybe 300 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: not a hero anymore. Oh they we're going to find 301 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: somebody new. And they tried to make Dexter read the 302 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: new George Floyd. He's in Chicago. He was shot and 303 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: killed by police. Here's what his mom said yesterday. 304 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I know. 305 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: Before we get to the mom, cause I just did 306 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: you see the Washington Post headline on this? 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: No, I haven't even seen it. 308 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: This is the Washington Post headline. Everyone, police fire ninety 309 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: six shots in forty one seconds, killing black man during 310 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: traffic stop. There is clear body camera footage. 311 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: Everyone. 312 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: He refused commands, pulled a gun and shot at point 313 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: blank range at the officers eleven times. Yes, he literally 314 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: pulled a gun and started shooting at cops right next 315 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: to him. And the Washington Post says black man killed 316 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: a traffic stop. 317 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Many bullets fired by cops. 318 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he shot at them eleven times. Listened to his 319 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: mob yesterday in a press conference. This has cut twenty seven. 320 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 6: They just bumped his new car three days before there 321 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 6: and he was just ring them round in his car. 322 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 6: He said, Mom, rat and they killed him. 323 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: They killed him, and then she finates. 324 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: It looks like a Dave Chappelle's skit, and they had 325 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: to catch her. They're suing Chicago. 326 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: Hold on a second, I mean, right, like, no matter 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: who you are and what your child, I mean, I 328 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: don't have a kid, Clay, you can speak to this. 329 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: We're working on it. 330 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: But no matter who you are, if you lose a child, 331 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: you're going to be absolutely devastated. 332 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: And and that's just. 333 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: Of course, but the media coverage of the mom here 334 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: to create this emotional pull of the story her son 335 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: tried to kill police officers. It could not be more 336 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: apparent her son tried to murder people. Because he did. 337 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: We don't know why he did not want to comply. 338 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: It's all on video. You could see it as clear 339 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: as day. 340 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we know what they're trying to do here. Yeah, Well, 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm a parent. 342 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say like they he was just 343 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: driving around and didn't do anything. If my son fired 344 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: eleven shots. I know, But of course you'd be very. 345 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, you're very. You're allowed to grieve as a 346 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: parent no matter what your child did, is what I'm 347 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to say. 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I suppose whereas he upstairs or downstairs? 374 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: If you catch them adrift, I would not want to 375 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: be Oja facing my creator. I can tell you that 376 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: we're going to take some of your calls on that one. Also, 377 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: we just discussed this play that that Washington Post headline 378 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: that is that is recklessly dishonest. 379 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: It's vicious. Yes, these cops. 380 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: Are going to be targeted now by lunatics and they're 381 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: going to be getting death threats to their families and 382 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: all this stuff in part because they are presenting this 383 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: case of the shooting in Chicago. This was a lawful 384 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: shoot in any context. 385 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: They didn't. 386 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if there are cops or not. If 387 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: someone starts shooting at you, you have a god given right, 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: a god given right to defend yourself. No person is 389 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: required under any circumstances. Oh well, you know there's a 390 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: history of injustice, so you know you can kill me now. 391 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, And the Washington go ahead. 392 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: It's not just a Washington Post. I was gonna build 393 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: on what you're saying. 394 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking it up because I did see this the 395 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Associated Press, who was supposed to be the least biased 396 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: news organization out there, their headline on this buck is 397 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: deadly Chicago traffic stop where police fired ninety six shots 398 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: raises serious questions about use of force with a picture 399 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: of the guy who was shot from his high school 400 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: graduation eight years ago. 401 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Was the graduation photo. This is the old Mike Brown 402 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: thing too. Whatever they want to uh foment a narrative 403 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: and get people worked up and create rage out there 404 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: from those who are unfortunately easily misled. They use the 405 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: in a case of a black individual killed by police, 406 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: they always use a graduation photo. They did this with 407 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: Mike Brown, with the Mike Brown gred They didn't use 408 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: as much the still shots of him physically assaulting and 409 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: robbing somebody right before his encounter with the officer in 410 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. But they also did this with with Trayvon Martin. 411 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: If I recall, I remember that the photo they kept 412 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 2: showing of Trayvon Martin. 413 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: Glad you remember this. He's about twelve. 414 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: The Trayvon Martin who actually got into a fight with 415 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: George Zimmerman and tried to bash his head into the 416 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: concrete was eighteen years old and weighed one hundred and 417 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: seventy pounds or one hundred and sixty pounds, give or take. 418 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: But the photo that they were presenting everybody was of 419 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: a twelve year old, you know, an angelic looking twelve 420 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: year old. This stuff is this is Soviet in its propaganda. 421 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: The Washington Post should be ashamed. It's a disgrace as 422 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: an organization. They are defaming by their actions, these officers 423 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: creating the perception that there was some racist intent or 424 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: racist motive here. I'm gonna be at the gun range, well, 425 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: not tomorrow, this weekend, and I can tell you you know, 426 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: when you are under stress, under pressure, first of all, 427 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna fire a lot more rounds than you think 428 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: you will. And of course I haven't been in a 429 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: lethal shootout like this, but even just in training, if 430 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to go at speed, you can fire a 431 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: lot more rounds you think when you're when you're endorphins 432 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: are up, it's very easy to rattle off fifteen rounds 433 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: from a you know, a glock nineteen or any number 434 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: of different side arms that you can carry in a 435 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: matter of seconds and clay you're moving to avoid getting 436 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: shot while you're shooting, right. Yeah, So this this idea 437 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: they love to do, this thing of oh, all the 438 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: bullets that were fired. How many bullets are you supposed 439 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: to fire when someone's trying to kill you? As many 440 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: as you have to do to stop the threat, is 441 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: the only acceptable answer. 442 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again he fired eleven shot. 443 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: And this is one where I would say body camera 444 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: is important, because think about this if the body camera 445 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: didn't exist, they would have stop lives that they fired first, 446 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: and they would try to put them in What is 447 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: it that would be the case. Instead, you can watch 448 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: for yourself. You can go see the video of this. 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: You can see him refuse to comply. This is something 450 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: that is really important. Officers deserve a service medal, that's 451 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: the truth. They deserve a commendation for bravery on the job. 452 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Someone tried to kill them and they return fire. That 453 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: is the reality of how law enforcement works, and that's 454 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: how they But instead we're getting oh, you know, the 455 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: too many rounds fired and he was just out for 456 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: a drive. This is what I want every parent and 457 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: every grandparent out there to listen closely on, because we 458 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: hear none of this publicly. I've never heard anybody else 459 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: with a substantial audience argue it. I set down with 460 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: my kids, and I would encourage you to sit down 461 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: with your kids, or your grandkids, or your nieces or 462 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: your nephew's cousins, whoever is close to you, regardless of 463 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: their race, comply with the demands of police office. I'm 464 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer. If somebody does an unreasonable search of your kid, 465 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: or if somebody does something that is inappropriate under the law. 466 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: You can challenge that in the future, all of these incidents, 467 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: all of them. If when you get pulled over, if 468 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: you put your hands on the steering wheel and you 469 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: do exactly what the officer says, none of this would 470 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: have ever happened. So if you are out there and 471 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: you've got a sixteen year old like I do, who 472 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: has just started to drive, just listen to police officers. 473 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but everybody, everybody who's listening to you knows that 474 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. This is This isn't like maybe, 475 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: this isn't like somebody got a little scared play. This 476 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: isn't like somebody got a little scared and they hit 477 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: the accelerator and they tried to get away or something. 478 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: Someone drew down and tried to murder a cop. Right, 479 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: But reason you can tell them to comply as much 480 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: as you want. Someone who's willing to shoot at cops 481 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: doesn't care about. 482 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: Do you see. I bet I bet this. 483 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: I bet this mom never told her son if you 484 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: ever get pulled over by a police officer, comply with 485 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: every single thing that an officer says. 486 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: I bet you did. 487 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's a little bit like telling a 488 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: you know, a mass murderer, like, hey, don't buy that 489 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: gun illegally before you go and shoot everybody. 490 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you, we're way beyond. We're way beyond. 491 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: The problem is we've got a culture that believes you 492 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: shouldn't believe what a police officer says, and it's making 493 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: dangerous situations for police officers and for the people they 494 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: pull over way worse. And I don't remember that existing. 495 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I don't remember that saying. 496 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: It to me. Clay. 497 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: This is that's that's a it's a compelling point or 498 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's important people to hear that. In an 499 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: excessive use of force situation where cops are like wrestling 500 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: someone to the ground and you know that's a compliance, 501 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: this guy pulled the gun out and tried to kill 502 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: the officers. You know what I'm saying, that's not something 503 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: you do before. But if you watch the video, all 504 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: he had to do. 505 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, in other words, yes, he accelerated this, but 506 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: they gave him time to just unlock the car door, 507 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: get out if your driver's license right, Like he was 508 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: the accelerant here, almost always refusing to comply with the 509 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: initial comment of a police officer is the accelerant that 510 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: leads to violence. 511 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: Right, All you have to do is comply. 512 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: And I don't hear anybody ever say, if you get 513 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: pulled over by a police officer, just comply. 514 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: I've never heard an athlete say everybody. 515 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: Wants grabbing your gun and trying to kill the cop 516 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: because they said roll down your window. 517 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: That's like a world. 518 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Away from just complied, you know what I mean, Like 519 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: that's that you're in a whole other stratosphere. 520 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: Correct. 521 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: And the story of why this guy wants to shoot 522 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: at police officers is its whole another story. 523 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll never get the honest truth. 524 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: Most people who get pulled over don't think I'm going 525 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: to get my gun and shoot police officers, right. But 526 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, but a lot of these accelerates happened because 527 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody just doesn't listen to the commands of a police officer, 528 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: including this one. 529 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy just rolls down his window, gets 530 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: out a car. Everything's fine, of. 531 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: Course, And and you know this is the compliance would 532 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: make almost all of these law enforcement involved shootings not 533 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: happen across the board, not just with a black either 534 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 2: perpetrator or Victie binding on the situation anybody, because because 535 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: this is one thing that's true about cops and we 536 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: have you know, we're very honored we have such a 537 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: large law enforcement audience. Live of the off lives of 538 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: the officers forever change, careers, altered, lives altered, they're gonna lose, uh, 539 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: even in a completely lawful shoot. I mean, look, go 540 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: go talk to anybody who's had to use lethal force, 541 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: even in the military. This stuff is hard to process, 542 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: hard to handle. Nobody wants to go out as a 543 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: law enforcement officer and kill somebody just because I mean, 544 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: if they do, they're a psychopath and they belong in 545 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: prison for the rest of their lives. That's incredibly, incredibly rare. 546 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: It's rare than it is in the general population. And uh, 547 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: these officers don't want to be involved in something like 548 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: this at all. But I just think it's interesting that, 549 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: you know, absent this narrative. You know, generally speaking, if 550 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: an officer defends himself, defends the other officers there on 551 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: this se against a lethal threat, it's a it's a 552 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: point of commendation. And instead we're having this conversation now 553 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: about whether it's excessive force and based on what if 554 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: this is excessive force? Clay, we expect law enforcement officers 555 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: to get killed on the job and do nothing about it. 556 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: We might as well disarm all cops and let the 557 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: criminal element in our society kill cops at will, because 558 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: we are saying they're not allowed to defend themselves. This 559 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: could not have been This is like in that same category. 560 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: Remember with the officer who shot the young black woman 561 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: who was trying to stab the other young black Cleveland, Yeah, 562 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, and Lebron was like your next or whatever 563 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: about this thing. You know, it was a horrible he 564 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: saved someone's life. The cop clearly saved the other young 565 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: woman's life, and the same voices, oh police brutality. It's 566 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: just this reflexive and and just idiotic anti police sentiment 567 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: that now, unfortunately is a real commonplace in our society. 568 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: And if you were trying to be honest as a journalist, 569 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: how could you have a headline that doesn't include the 570 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: fact that they were returning fire if you were just 571 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, like, look, people screw up headlines. I run 572 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: a media company. Sometimes people screw up headlines. The idea 573 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: that you would say officers who were shot at by 574 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: eleven times, and I think it's like three or four 575 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: officers returning fire. 576 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: The guys try to kill police officers. 577 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: What would the appropriate number of times you could shoot 578 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: back at someone trying to kill you? 579 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: Be right? 580 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you were just making an error, this 581 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: is not the headline that the error would be. 582 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: Trying to rip open racial psychological wounds because they are 583 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: zealots and they want to divide America in the Washington Post, 584 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: the New York Times along racial lines and they think 585 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: that makes for a better country. And as we know 586 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: from whether it's the OJ verdict or this, dividing us 587 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: along racial lines is poison. It is a poison in 588 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: our society. It always is and it always will be. 589 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: And this is one of the fundamental premises. I think 590 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: that the left will just continue to get wrong. I mean, 591 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: they're kind of addicted to racial grievance for the reasons 592 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: of power, but also because of the vanity that allows people. 593 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I care so much about BLM. I put 594 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: a BLM square up on my Instagram. I care about 595 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: racial justice, Clay. 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Appreciate all 636 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 637 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: through the Thursday edition of the program reacting to OJ 638 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Simpson news the chaos in Arizona as a result of 639 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court decision. There, we talked with this Wisconsin 640 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Senate candidate Eric Hovdy, who is running for the Republican 641 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: nomination there. Uh, and a lot of discussion also about 642 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: spiraling out of the OJ case, but the attempt to 643 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: make a police shooting in Chicago into the new BLM focus. 644 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: They're going to do it. I think all of you out. 645 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: There just have to presume BLM, much derided, hasn't paid 646 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: attention to it for a couple of years. They're going 647 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: to find a cause, celeb They're going to find a 648 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: situation that they believe epitomizes racism in America, and they're 649 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: going to use all of their allies in the media 650 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: to turn it into one of the top stories in 651 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: the country in advance of the twenty twenty four election. 652 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: It's inevitable. 653 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Michael in Florida, what you got for us? 654 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: And my father was in law enforcement, and he sat 655 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: down and gave me the talk, and he said, son, 656 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: whenever anybody in a position of authority gives you a 657 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: life awful command, whether you like it or don't like it, 658 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: or whether you believe it or don't believe it, you 659 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: obey it. If you think it's wrong, you follow your 660 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: grievance later, Yes, but that doesn't give you the right 661 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: to disobey or ignore the command you were given. When 662 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: Obama became president, he said to the nation, I gave 663 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 4: my children the talk. Well, my father's white and I'm white, 664 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 4: and my father gave me the talk. Yes, obey a 665 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: lawful command, and if something's not right, report it to 666 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: their superiors. You don't argue it, you don't fight it, 667 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: you don't disobey his commands. And if people obeyed the 668 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 4: commands they're given, they won't be getting shot like they are. 669 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: I agree with all this, this idea that only black 670 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: parents have talks with their kids about how to interact 671 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: with police. First of all, if that's true, they need 672 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: to have longer talks because obviously the message is not 673 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: getting through. But I said, down my own kids. I've 674 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: got a sixteen year old driving. Now there's this idea. Look, 675 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm not saying police are perfect. Police are human. They 676 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: are imperfect, as all of us are imperfect every single 677 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: day in their jobs. But if they are imperfect and 678 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: violate the law in some way and they illegally search 679 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: a car, or if they illegally stop your son or 680 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: daughter and they shouldn't be stopped, I'm telling you, as 681 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: a lawyer, you can challenge that later. What you can't 682 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: challenge is an accelerant that turns into a violent act 683 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: that takes someone's life. And I know you said that 684 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: you feel like those conversations obviously are oftentimes not taking place, 685 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: or it wouldn't have applied in this case. I think 686 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: lots of parents aren't having this conversation. I think lots 687 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: of grandparents aren't having this conversation. I think lots of 688 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: aunts and uncles, cousins. If you have kids in your 689 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: life that you care about, you need to sit down 690 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: and have that conversation. 691 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: There's another conversation, unfortunately, that I think is being heard 692 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: much more in a lot of these communities where there's 693 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: high crome, and it is that the cops are racist 694 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: and want to murder you. And this is when you 695 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: look at this Washington Post headline police fire ninety six 696 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: shots in forty one seconds killing black man during traffic stop. 697 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: That is intended to incite for violence, mayhem, disobedience of 698 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: law enforcement, all of the above. That is the intent 699 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: of the Washington Post newsroom. That is the intent of 700 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: the Democrat anti police left. And so you know, there's 701 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: another narrative rights. There's a narrative you're talking about, which 702 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: is comply with police. They will be held to account. 703 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: There is a process for this. That's the right narrative. 704 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: The left is telling people, Yeah, cops are racist murderers. Well, 705 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: if you really believe that, you're going to panic in 706 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: some cases when law enforcement pulls you over, and that 707 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: can lead to horrific consequences. We'll get more onto this 708 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: team tomorrow. Obviously important stuff will continue to follow it.