WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Big & Nasty Draft Picks? 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.640 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:13.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.800 player's label, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:24.200 the Star. No. Your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:32.479 NEWI scrugs. Hey, the gang's all back, the game back together, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.000 we're back. Would you call us now the traces the 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:42.040 trades negroes? Yeah, you found Danny's running off the back. Wait, 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.599 that's so, y'all know, Barry New they suspended me? All right, 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.320 that's all. So now I'm back. Now you back from 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.680 me suspicion. I'm back from suspensions. So thank y'all for 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:57.000 allowing me to come back. He probably expect for pdle nervous. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.920 I was gonna be right about the office of tackle round. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.480 So yeah, I was like, we've not letting him come 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.760 back until after the draft, right, So I get it. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.880 He's back. He's back. Danny mccraie is back. So um uh, 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.000 later on down the road, we'll discuss the adventures that 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.080 you've been on. But until let's get into the draft. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.840 He is buried. Just lead on rocket. He's been here 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.720 for carrying holding it down, it down, carrying d D 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.360 on your shoulders and trib is on the Yes. Yes, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.880 did you play your dude to lead rock at talking 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:35.040 about long negotiate? Okay, you know I got not negotiating, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:43.160 trying to bring the price down. The LSC national champion 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.840 Danny mccrai has found his way back. Hold. Yeah, he's back. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:48.800 You know I was on what they called it, what 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.200 you called it the last time on the signs on 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.720 a signments. The Missilemans is getting long. The Ms Simmons 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.400 is getting long. Sometimes when you're good, they give you 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:05.280 several signments. Yeah, he's booked. Yes sir, Yes, sir. Let's 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.400 let's just get into the draft from this standpoint. I'm 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.880 gonna ask everybody, including our producer Crispy, who was your 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.280 favorite draft pick. I'll start with your church favorite draft pick. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.919 This was definitely a roller coaster of picks for me. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.640 But I'm gonna have to say the second rounder, um 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.760 to me, he flashed potential and he might be the 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.480 best out of all of them once it's all set 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.760 and done it. And I'm talking about the DN from 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.239 Old miss I think his name is Sam Williams. Sam 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.680 Williams he's more of a he's a project, all right. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.640 I mean he was all sec all that good stuff. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.280 He can get after the quarterback. My thing is can 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:41.880 he hold it down in the run game as well. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.960 That's that's the you know, because we saw what happened 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.079 in that playoff game last year against the forty nine 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.680 ers the trenches we got bullied in. So we're bringing 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.120 a guy like this who has explosive potential off the 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.360 edge as far as getting after the quarterback. But the 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.280 only thing I'm concerned about is does he have enough 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.400 bricks in his pocket to hold down that edge and 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.040 make sure we can get this run stop because we 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.600 don't want to get bullied like he did against San 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.440 Francisco last year. That's the only thing. But I know 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.240 he has the potential to get after the quarterback and 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.400 he could be one of those dynamic pieces as far 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.519 as the pass rush is concerned. But overall, that was 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.400 my favorite pick from the The cop was just uh 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.280 this past draft, Yeah, yeah, ye want my answer, Yeah 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.280 we want y'all. Y'all don't know it and two points 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:25.359 you got two choicest Listen the fact that we got 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.480 to that's what that's what that's what it is. Yah, man, listen, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.720 I'm listen. I'm not as excited about the offensive tackle 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.560 pick in the first round, but but I think the 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.240 guy has some potential. I think you get the right 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.280 coaching around him. I think this guy could be great. Also, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.400 I had no idea that my man Collins was out 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.400 of the building. I've been on the signment, man, You've 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:49.480 been out there, so so now I know we need 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.640 So we got Terence Still. We got a guy who's 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.880 probably gonna play half the season on at the left tackle. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.920 So my man Toy Smith is going to get some reps, right, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.440 He's gonna gonna get some play. I'm excited to see 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:05.080 the new the ushering of the new Datlas Cowboys offensive line. Okay, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.080 first rounder offensive tackle should have done it last year, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.080 but we got it this year. I'm excited to see 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.840 what he can do. They're gonna put him inside. He probably, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.080 you know, I'm not sure. It depends on what type 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.760 of training camp he had. And I know knew he winning. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.520 He told us that Terren still had that amazing training 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.760 camp last season and we all saw it, you know, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.680 come to fruition when he got into the game. So 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.000 maybe this guy comes in, he gets the right coaching 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.640 around him, and all of a sudden, he starts to 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.840 look like a stud. Remember what Tyren Smith looked like 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.039 his rookie year when we was out there in training 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.279 camp with him just mauling. That dude was a prototypical. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.039 So you got a big guy. You know, he got 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.719 some work to do, but I think, I think, I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.360 think he'll be all right. My favorite pick was um 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.080 Jalen Tolbert, the wide receiver out of South Alabama, just 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.520 reminded me so much of what they got in Michael 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.760 Gallop when they took Michael Gallop in the third round 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.400 out of Colorado State. Michael was an All American receiver 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.039 and was up there for the Politic Off Award. No 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.800 receiver had caught more passing yards against Alabama that year 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.520 he came out. So the guy went down there, played 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.240 against where we know, premier, premier defensive, premier players and 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.640 was able to put up some numbers. Jalen Tilbert Conference 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.040 Player of the Year out of the Sun Belt, the 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:23.200 guy from the tape I've seen looks polished and I 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.000 think he could have a small impact. And when I 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.599 say small impact from the standpoint that if Ceedee Lamb 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.680 is getting the ball the way we believe he's getting 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.080 the ball, and if James Washington does what he's supposed 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.760 to do with his second chance, there won't be many opportunities, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.240 especially because you're expecting Gallot to probably miss maybe the 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.560 first three games of the year, so his contribution would 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.719 probably be small as a receiver. But I think he 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.800 can have one and we know what seventeen games dudes 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.560 are gonna get hurt. Were talking about this receiver room. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.240 Do you think we've done enough? Because if we look 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.320 at it, I mean, look, we think, you know, Ceedee 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.000 Lamb is gonna get that number one targets and he's 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.120 gonna get all all the catches and stuff. But you've 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.520 seen how Kelly Moore system does the number one receivers. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.839 And then we got you know, Michael Galla coming off 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.479 of a CCA. He'll probably start the season on PUB 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.880 so he probably won't be there, you know for the 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.719 first five six weeks. Do we have enough over there 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.320 with Ceedee Lamb, James Washington and then you're the rookie 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.160 Tolbert to do some damage. I mean, we play the 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.320 first place schedule too. It's a system. Okay, until Kelly 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.599 Moore shows that he draws up plays four number one receivers, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.039 then yeah, we got enough, right, because what you're gonna 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.760 He's gonna draw a place for guys to get open, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.599 and Deck's gonna have to make the right read to 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.479 get the right guy the ball. We know that in 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.599 third and five whatever, it's not going to be the 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 Ceedee Lamb show. It's going to be whoever we can 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.640 get open, it's going to get the ball. That's why 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.840 you see guys like Noah around last year getting these 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.039 catches in these situations where you're like Ceedee Lamb and 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.960 the Mark Cooper are out there, Why these dudes touching 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.360 the ball? So yes, if Keller Moore is the same offense, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.320 I think I think we're who's gonna have to step 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.200 but up. It's gonna be Sholtz. Yeah have to Yeah, no, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.119 no doubt, no doubt. Staying on your point about Kellen Moore. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:05.120 And also with Tolbert here um Dak Prescott called Tolbur 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:10.560 before the draft, before he was started doing that, so 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.200 the cat already knew that Q called. They got Dak 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.960 up in the room. Yeah, say, how do you get 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:21.720 us no, Dak, who do him? So I'm going in 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.920 the draft was like getting I'm getting there. During the 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.080 press conner, they said that they gave him a handful 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.640 of guys to call before the draft just to feel 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.560 him out. Like I said, Hill was leta tall something 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.600 that called me and I don't get picked. We were fighting. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.600 I got my home state, we got we got an 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.680 issue because you got I'm calling my mom and nomo 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.520 a man. Dad called me. Okay, so I'm going to 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.200 be back. He said, we're gonna do you know what 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.520 if I'm Dak. I played like the missistant coaches and 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.280 I told him to keep you about my pay grind. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:56.760 Hell no, they I told him to draft you. Okay, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:01.760 you you my top three? Listen right, you do it 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.840 number one Matt. Imagine Dak called you and you're like 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.600 this guy from South Alabama and is like, hey man, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:14.560 this Dak president. I was like, man, quit playing right now. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:19.560 Patrick mahomes so love Tolber. I want to go back 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.560 to Tyler Smith, the first round pick out of told 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.440 so who went to high school North Crowley. So he's 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.920 from Fort Warts. He's right here in town. I know 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.520 his agent and I told his agent I said, you 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.480 need to do two things for him. Number one, get 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.520 him around Tyrant Smith as soon as you can. He's young, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.880 like Tyrant, Tyrant came in the League of twenty Smith 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:42.280 just turned twenty one. Smith very very mature and a 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.440 very you know, serious guy. I said, he and Tyrand 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.760 Smith will they will have camaraderie there. And then I said, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:55.360 you need to get him with DeMarcus Ware because everyone 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.880 knows he's got some work to do. Smith is this okay, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.640 Smith has upside, but right now he's a project. He's 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.000 got some issues. Um most penalized officive lineman in college 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.720 football last year, their their issues there. One of the 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.840 things that I was told, he's got to learn how 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.440 to use his hands and work with his hands better. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.400 And that's why I told his any you didn't called 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.560 the marks ware, I said, what where did you guys? 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.880 Remember what he did when Tyron Smith was here? They 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.440 put they put They immediately had Tyrn working with DeMarcus Ware. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.120 You know on pass rush, you know how to attack it, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.160 and you know, just just dealing with this is how 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.520 I'm gonna come at you. And we saw what happened. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.480 Tyrn took to the took to the coaching from the 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.600 player and the coaches, ends up rocketed, right. I mean, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.120 he's he's got a Hall of Fame resume. So put 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.160 Tyler Smith with him, put him with where, because where 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.000 can help you out? And also what where did for 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.080 von Miller when he went to Denver in terms of 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.280 showing it, this is what you need to do, this 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.200 is where you need to go. And I just think 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.280 if they do that with that young man and he's, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.599 by the way, it's a finance major Tulsa. I was 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.640 still working on his degree during the draft, so he 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.400 was still going to classes because his mama said, you 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.040 need to get that degree. So I think the Cowboys 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.000 picked a guy who wants to be good. He understands 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.520 the history of football. Agent Jobey was telling me, he said, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.560 hey man, he knows who Larry ellis. He says he 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.839 wants to be nasty and play like Larry saying that 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.959 was that was that was a pro or picking the guy. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.040 What do we need? We need nasty, physical, we need that. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.360 Like when Leo Collins for whatever he want, when he 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.920 came around that corner, he was like this dude, he coming, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.719 he bringing it with him. He was a bouncer. When 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.160 you watch guys like Trent Williams come around corners and 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.199 get on guys to block the parts, it's nasty. It's nasty. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.800 And listen, the coaching that he got at Tulsa is 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.120 going to be way different than the coaching he's gonna 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.920 get here, all right. So when you talk about a 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.320 young guy who is playing that will with that with 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.320 that level coach in the no offense to Tosa. But 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.720 it's not like you go on to Bama or Ella 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.600 as you or something like that. When you get around 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.440 a guy or a guy, some players and some coaches 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.760 that can really hone in on what you need to 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.120 work on to be great, I think you're gonna see 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.559 some upside like when Band Queen got here. Plus, if 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.840 you went on the outside, we know that the tackle 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.600 position on the outside, you're dealing with a lot of 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.439 speed and guys, you know, doing a lot of moves. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.559 So there contends to be if your technique is not there, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.040 they're just gonna tend to be a little beholding, a 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.719 little bit of grasping. But they pick him inside. Let's 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.559 just say Tyrant's planning to started the season on the 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.640 left tackle and they kick him inside. I think that'll 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.280 take away a lot of his holding penalties and a 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.320 lot of like you know, self self made mistakes like that, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.640 because we'll have two guys on the on his one 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:24.920 side of the center and we'll have to tackle on 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.440 the other side. And I think he has the bricks 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.240 in his pocket. I think he has the strength to 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.280 be able to yeah, to be able to hold it 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.720 down in there. So I think it will have a solid, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.640 very solid Tell me this though, Okay, so you draft 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.840 your offensive tackle in the first round, do you want 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:44.200 to start off by moving him in to guard versus 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.200 letting him get everything he can at the tackle position, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.040 learning that throughout the entire season instead of going into 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.480 guard and having to learn how to play that position. Now. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.559 But we know, we know as first round, is he 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.600 gonna see the field, he gonna see he gonna see it, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.640 and is we know what he gonna see it he 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.400 gonna have to be guard? No, No No, he's gonna see 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:08.000 it eventually. Tie. You know, we task gonna miss a 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.320 couple of games, so we'll eventually slide out there. But 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.520 to start it off, if he's gonna play, I mean, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.360 we don't have a guard, right now, so we gotta 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.840 put him somewhere along that offensive line. I don't see that. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.800 Wait wait, wait, wait, you know, let's not disrespect Connor McGovern. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:29.520 I mean he's still okay. You guys are both undroll. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.160 You guys are both undrafted free agents, and you saw 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.200 them try to you know, bringing people many a time 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.120 and get you know, to get your spot. You would 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.920 hope that Connor McGovern sees what happened and says, I'm 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.960 a veteran. Let me go out here, win this spot. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.559 Let me do all that I can do. Because he 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.160 got a winning spot. Because he did. He wasn't playing 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.080 last year, right right, He got bench cheap. He was 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.600 on the bench for Williams. And then they gave the 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.360 spot of Williams and after a few games they went 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.720 back to Williams. So so I'm just saying for Connor McGovern, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.679 you you would hope this guy sees this the last 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.120 stop the desert for you man, this is it. Sometimes 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.520 it don't work like that. I'm gonna be really. I 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.400 remember got like Doug free he wanted to play better, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.640 but he just he just couldn't. Sometimes it just don't 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.240 work out for you man. You said he don't have 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.840 enough bricks in his pocket. He ain't get enough more bricks. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.600 You don't just grow bricks like you either got the 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.440 anchor or you don't. Don't you don't. Let's be really, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.880 the guy's a first round pick. Yeah, and they put 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.720 him in there. I mean, look, look and and okay, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.320 I'd like to think of the government fight at least 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.439 go fight, go out there and fight for you. I 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.120 don't say, that's what I'm saying. I'll tell you, let 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.640 a fight. They gonna have that man mc governed in 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.200 there on the first line. They're gonna be black Tie 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.160 stand right behind him, and he gonna stand behind him 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.439 for the first couple couple of little ota thing and 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:47.839 the next thing, you know, they're gonna be like, hey, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.760 let switch it up a little bit, you know, and 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.079 that's the end of it. That's just gonna go. But 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.240 but you're okay with that, right, Yeah, I'd rather have 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.760 him in there than the government. Well, I'm just saying, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.920 I mean, I would at least like to see to 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.080 do start there me. You know, she showed me some fight, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.720 because that's been a problem around here. There's not there's 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.960 not been enough fight. I think that's evident in what 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.920 they tried to draft and the guys they were drafting 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.000 in this class, and also that forty nine ers. I 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.480 just cannot take that forty nine er thing out of mind. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.679 Was out of my mind. The dude's walking out with 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.640 a boombox and taking you feel and in the first 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.520 year the offensive Linan did that. Remember that? Now, okay, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.080 let them about that. Trenches and the trenches. You know, 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.200 they beat beat up the offins first three plays. Then 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.920 the defense got out there and defense wanted there and 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:39.880 then and boys getting stiff on you. But it's true, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.800 and I feel I feel like they took that to 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.640 art like, hey man, this this wasn't good enough. We 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.120 need to get some nasty. We need to get some 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.040 people up here. Want to put somebody in the mouth. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.920 It's so so good, so Tyler Smith, at least it 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.760 is fitting some of that there. The word I kept 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.240 getting here was was um. I kept hearing project overall 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.320 about the draft an upside, which means the coaching has 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.920 to happen. I know Joe Philbin has taken some heat 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.560 from fans and media. There's some people out there who 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.360 don't even think Joe Philbin is a very good offensive 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.760 line coach. But I keep pointing out, look at what 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.760 they did with Terrence Steele. Guy came out of Texas Tech. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.640 All they do is throw the ball. He got tore 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.200 up his rookie year. And well I gave him in 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.600 the past because he came out to Big twelve and 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.040 by the second straight year, nobody in the Big twelve 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.240 in the first round. So you came out to Big twelve. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.440 The guy spent a year in the weight room, and 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.960 remember it was COVID. The guy had proved when he 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.640 got to training. So I will give Joe Philbin the 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.560 benefit of the doubt that he can work with Tyler Smith. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.480 And maybe it's year two, year three before you see it. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.720 But the guy is worthy of a first round pick. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.120 That's what a lot of people like. He shouldn't be 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.240 a first round I'm a third round, no, bro, That 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.360 guy was going in the first round. Tennessee. One of 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.920 them offensive tackles were at a premium. We saw the 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.680 best three going up high, and after that you see 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.720 some of them guards go early too. That we was 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.480 talking about, well, I never bear. I never thought they 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:11.960 were going to get the parts. That was why I 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.160 was talking about the other other let's go for right. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.520 They were plus they telegraphed just like they did with 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.040 the cat with the with the corners, telling everybody what 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.120 you like? Yeah, everybody right, I mean at that point 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:29.600 in time, if you know, okay, I love things. The 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.600 boy said, I was gonna be the first corner of 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.760 the cat from US Cincinnati. But let me ask you 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.560 this newly. The guy we picked Testament two point zero Tulsa. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.600 But the center was available to the cat from was available. Yes, yes, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.840 Chris Beams, see if you've got the Jerry audio on that. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.160 So okay. Linda Baum out of out of Iowa one 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.600 of the highest rated centers in the draft. The last 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.040 couple of years, Um played at Iowa with Tristan Worths 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.280 ended up beating him as high school wrestler. Now worst 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:02.840 used to wear him out, but he ended up beating 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.960 him once time. One time, what time? You know? One time? 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.080 One time I got you and I moved on the 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.640 state championships. But Um, they basically say it was too light. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.760 The center was the short. I know he had short 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.000 arms according to how they look at guys, but but 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.000 felt he was too light. And I know you hate 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.520 to hear this because we heard it about Slater didn't 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.879 fit them, didn't fit them, so they they you know, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.440 didn't fit them, later went out here, became a pro, 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.120 all pro. We got pro bowler, all pro. So that 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.880 was and Jerry spoke about that. But basically because people 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.680 asked like, hey, man, the guy's right here on the board, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.200 and I think he went either one or two picks late. Yeah, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.360 he went two picks later, two picks later. But their 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.840 feeling was he wasn't big enough for them, and they 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.080 wanted a guy who could be a center and a guard. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.120 But that was if you read through the whole lane, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.479 you say, man, do too light for us. He's two light, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.679 he's got short, short arms. We didn't want to do that. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.560 We wanted a bigger guy. And they took Sam Williams 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.840 in the second round. So Tyler Smith they had. They 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.679 took Tyler Smith the office of tackle. Who's got what 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.040 they want right now? They want they want guard tackle 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:21.560 flexibility because as you said, Tyrant Smith, don't write down 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.159 seventeen games for him. Don't don't do it. So realization 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.439 it did. If you start him at guard and you 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.359 eventually moved him out to tackle. I think that's that's 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.879 would be their best hope. I'm not calling him Jonathan Ogden. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.639 I'm just merely pointing out the fact when John Ogden 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.080 came out of UCLA as a top four pick, he 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.280 started at guard because the Ravens still had big zeus 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.760 Um Orlando Brown, and then eventually Octon went out to 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.919 left tackle, won a Super Bowl, got a Hall of 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.840 Fame career. Like I said, I'm not saying that, but 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.639 I'm just saying that's kind of the thought process. We 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.960 could put him here for now and then put him there. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.480 Mike McCarthy said at the press conference they will work 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.760 him at both spots at training camp. So they got 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.840 faith in beyondest him. Yeah, they want him to hold 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.480 that thing down. And Jerry kind of basically said, already 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.440 he's beyondest. I already got that. It's kind of what 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.720 man now. Now, Look, I think I think the kid 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.560 is gonna go out and have a really good career. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.679 But if they feel these two light, then that means 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.000 there's certain systems that you put them in, you know, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.800 where you can so and we've seen look, we've seen 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.920 them miss on guys that they say didn't fit their system. Yeah, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.720 I knew, you know, is what it is. It is 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.479 what it is. But but this is the league. Man. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.960 Everybody's drafting traits that they want. Dan Quinn has a 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.080 type of corner that he wants and we saw them 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.000 take that corner and um dron Bland six two one 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:57.080 ninety seven. So they've got they've got a thing. Can 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.119 Cowboy fans at least give the club this when it 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.000 comes to taking offensive linemen in the first round, they're 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.560