Speaker 1: Look mare, oh, I see you am I own and
Speaker 1: look over there is that culture Yes, goodness, wow lost
Speaker 1: cult dingda last culturistas calling.
Speaker 2: What we were saying before we got on was that
Speaker 2: I went to the movie theaters.
Speaker 1: You went to the movie theaters. But it depends on
Speaker 1: which one you went to, doesn't It depends on the brand.
Speaker 2: I had a worse experience because I didn't go to
Speaker 2: an AMC and see Nicole first.
Speaker 1: At what point will we say, ah, God, there's no
Speaker 1: way that I asked this question without sounding awful.
Speaker 2: But you know that no matter how you sound, I
Speaker 2: will understand.
Speaker 1: I know you do. I can't say that for them.
Speaker 1: Please understand me when I ask this, Have compassion. Have
Speaker 1: compassion for me for whatever he sounds like. In the
Speaker 1: next second or two, just have compassion. And in the
Speaker 1: seconds beyond, I think, when will it not be a
Speaker 1: sort of security blanket kind of thing. Are you coming
Speaker 1: for me? I'm not coming for you, I'm coming for like.
Speaker 2: At some point we're gonna have to free Nicole from this,
Speaker 2: I understand. And here's what I'm actually gonna come out
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, this is actually really crazy to even
Speaker 2: go here because our guest today is actually the Nicole authority,
Speaker 2: one of the Nicole girls.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Naomi Darling may one of the things that's
Speaker 1: happening in culture is the Nicole kidman amc thing.
Speaker 2: We're getting diminishing returns. The cheers are starting to get less.
Speaker 2: And I've been to the cinema and it felt like
Speaker 2: last year like everyone was like screaming or gagging for Nicole,
Speaker 2: and now it's kind of like, I think what we
Speaker 2: need is a.
Speaker 1: Two point zero version of it. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: there's no way the two point zero lives up to
Speaker 1: the one. Oh, I would agree, And this is why
Speaker 1: you go out while you're on top. And oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: and I think we've like we've lost that threat. And
Speaker 1: I please have compassion for me as I say this,
Speaker 1: And it makes you get all self conscious to go
Speaker 1: to a regal. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: You just notice when it's not there, and to the
Speaker 2: point where I'm like, oh, is it now? Put of
Speaker 2: the movie go experience, which is a testament to her
Speaker 2: Stark quall. Absolutely, you know what I mean. But like
Speaker 2: here's what I'll say. I really don't want to see
Speaker 2: I don't want to see any Nicole Kidman amc gay
Speaker 2: Halloween costumes come October. I want to see two things,
Speaker 2: Barbie and Ariano Maddox at the vander.
Speaker 1: Pump reunion and the revenge dress. And the revenge dress.
Speaker 2: I want to see all my gay guys trying to
Speaker 2: get into that garment, which, by the way, is not
Speaker 2: a practical garment for a reunion, because but.
Speaker 1: She looked amazing sitting She looked incredible. She really pulled
Speaker 1: it off, didn't she. She really did. And I want
Speaker 1: to see my General Allions is out there.
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be really good at Genallion's costumes.
Speaker 1: With what she calls the landing strip. Yeah, not exactly
Speaker 1: what she thinks it means, no, not, But you know,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: That we both could be General Lions.
Speaker 1: I mean yes, both of us, you and I. We
Speaker 1: would both represent different parts of General Lions. What part
Speaker 1: would you That would be General Lions pre Veneers and
Speaker 1: you would be General Lions the binary the binary pre
Speaker 1: even years, and you would be gena lines posts nos job,
Speaker 1: which I only say that because it's all genetic condition
Speaker 1: and like, I actually think this is an amazing case study,
Speaker 1: and like get the work done. It's all gender affirming
Speaker 1: care do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, speaking on this, did you know that right now
Speaker 2: there was a news article that says that Hollywood actresses
Speaker 2: are in mass getting work done right now during the strike.
Speaker 2: So they're going to their doctors, and there is actually
Speaker 2: a huge movement amongst Hollywood A listers and B listers. Oh,
Speaker 2: don't forget the B. It's actually real culture number forty nine.
Speaker 2: Don't forget the B listeners. They're all moving to get
Speaker 2: their work done now right because the strike is going
Speaker 2: to go on for a while. So we're going to
Speaker 2: be seeing all the girls with the new faces, knees,
Speaker 2: shoulders toester, full headed transplants.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I say, get them, get them. Should
Speaker 1: we get some I might get a little little third eye,
Speaker 1: little trip third eye. I want a third eye. Speaking
Speaker 1: of the third eye, I think this is a perfect transition.
Speaker 2: There is some cards on the table and cards on
Speaker 2: the table. There's some cards on the table. Thank you,
Speaker 2: we have Can I just see what the deck is?
Speaker 1: Here we go. We've brought our system. Ask your guides
Speaker 1: or oracle cards. We need to get into these.
Speaker 2: We're going to get into these. I don't trust anyone
Speaker 2: to tell me my fortune like my girl. And this
Speaker 2: actually is a moment in Lost Colt history because I
Speaker 2: think probably the number one most referenced person on the
Speaker 2: podcast is probably Suitimh. But that's only because we've known
Speaker 2: her much longer, right, We've been known Sudy for decades.
Speaker 1: But there was a before and after the movement on
Speaker 1: a moment to movement on a moment of one day,
Speaker 1: my sister shows up and goes I was talking to House,
Speaker 1: and I was like who, And then I didn't even
Speaker 1: have to ask it out loud because I was like,
Speaker 1: there's that guy. He felt threatened. I did not feel threatened.
Speaker 1: I was actually so overjoyed. Why are you shaking your leg?
Speaker 1: I was not. No. My sister moves out to La.
Speaker 1: I miss her terribly, and then I see this person
Speaker 1: come into her life and I say, it's all gonna
Speaker 1: be okay, and I said I had to bring her
Speaker 1: into your life. And then it was kind of a
Speaker 1: beautiful moment. I'll never forget. I love House so much.
Speaker 1: I love House as in the unit House and the
Speaker 1: individuals that COMPRISEE House.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the big episode for the readers
Speaker 2: because they get to meet House and what I'm pointing
Speaker 2: to on the table cards on the table are these
Speaker 2: astral guides orcle cards, And he said he was going
Speaker 2: to bring these to the podcast recording, and I sort
Speaker 2: of just in the back of my mind was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think he even really does that. And then
Speaker 2: you came in and asked do you do this? And
Speaker 2: he said no, oh no. It was actually the lovely
Speaker 2: woman we just met.
Speaker 1: It was Enid who asked do you do this? And
Speaker 1: he said no, but I can do it, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is a perfect way to answer.
Speaker 2: That's actually something that everyone out there needs to know
Speaker 2: about astrology. Even if you can't do it, you can
Speaker 2: do it because like, watch this. So I've pulled out
Speaker 2: this card. This is intuition and in her child. So
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing for you not a terror card, by
Speaker 2: the way. What I'm saying for you is that you
Speaker 2: need to honor yourself. And if you don't start honoring
Speaker 2: yourself now, you never will bowen. And if you're not
Speaker 2: laughing and smiling and playing with the inner child every day,
Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1: I am literally on a reparenting journey. And how could
Speaker 1: you have drawn that card were it not for the cosmos?
Speaker 1: I have the gift, and so does our guests, and
Speaker 1: so does Sonia Choquette cat choke cat. Oh, I got
Speaker 1: me in the bedroom. They called me a chokeet. I'll
Speaker 1: be Oh, so you're you're the choke curb. I actually
Speaker 1: hate choking sexually. Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like when people because people also get crazy
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: It's hard to regulate. Well, yeah, because you can't breathe listen.
Speaker 1: If you like choking, I bet you're a damn Republican
Speaker 1: because you hate the regulation. Okay, Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so shook. I know. I think we need to cut
Speaker 1: straight to this and our guests, and wouldn't you say, ladies.
Speaker 2: And gentlemen and non binary friends, please welcome into your
Speaker 2: ears house aka Patrick Rogers.
Speaker 1: And now they get to hear your iconic like Midwestern
Speaker 1: voice finally say the word house India. Yeah, Indiana born,
Speaker 1: corn fed, Midwest best. Oh. And I bet that people
Speaker 1: when they knew they would come on the podcast, when
Speaker 1: they went on today, they thought that you would have
Speaker 1: a voice sort of like us, like sort of a
Speaker 1: faggy voice. Yes. And then you sort of come.
Speaker 2: In and you have sort of this like authoritative yes,
Speaker 2: what would you say?
Speaker 1: How would you sort of a choker voice? Oh? Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, choke if they like it? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Bottom's choice.
Speaker 2: Bottom's choice is what I say, a title of that?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: I was thinking the title of that would be house,
Speaker 2: but already it's bottoms choice.
Speaker 1: Bottom. Now, can we go back to something you could
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman? Yes? Because I feel like yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think one thing we have to say is anything that
Speaker 1: is that iconic and prolific needs to end at some point,
Speaker 1: because it's like in Christopher Nolan's Batman. You become the
Speaker 1: enemy story. That's what's what they say. That's what they
Speaker 1: say in the movie. You become the enemy of the story.
Speaker 1: If you're not, we can't keep doing the same mad
Speaker 1: and a sequel, honey, come on, there's never going to
Speaker 1: be anything better than the original. But didn't they say
Speaker 1: that she was filming a sequel. They said that they
Speaker 1: were writing it. They've been writing it for two years.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's not been And I don't blame them, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course for not approving, and for right for taking
Speaker 1: us on a right but I will say, you go,
Speaker 1: you set in your AMC. You've got your slushyet, oh know,
Speaker 1: you got your popcorn? Nicole comes on and whether the
Speaker 1: movie is bad, whether the movie is good, you're you're
Speaker 1: in your entertainment church. She is the pastor saying, come
Speaker 1: on in, baby Girl and just relax and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: And it's nice to be led into that. I think
Speaker 1: that's a really nice way to start a film. So
Speaker 1: the murder you stand on this, then should it and
Speaker 1: or should it be a pastor? It could never It
Speaker 1: can never be again. It can never be again with her,
Speaker 1: But my god, they should try something else. Maybe darling
Speaker 1: Ney could do something. Darling Ney could do something, well,
Speaker 1: then that would that really does come off as like
Speaker 1: Nicole didn't want to do it. Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 1: It should be like Anya Taylor Joy, I thought, you're
Speaker 1: about to say enya and yeah into the and you
Speaker 1: should be back and you should should be back. Did
Speaker 1: you ever act? She can say music that's usually number eighty?
Speaker 1: Did Anya ever act? Who can say? And yeah? At
Speaker 1: the Oscars? May it be Lord of the Rings of
Speaker 1: the Ring. I was saying, this woman is a performer, insane, insane,
Speaker 1: it is. It's a disservice that she's in Ireland in
Speaker 1: her castle with her ca and she will not leave.
Speaker 1: She will not leave, She will not see us anymore.
Speaker 1: She doesn't care, she doesn't care. Do you think she
Speaker 1: has a recording studio in the cast she does? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know this. Yes, there's an article, famous article from
Speaker 1: five years ago where they're like, Enya's this trope reclose
Speaker 1: they go, they talk to people around her. There's all
Speaker 1: this stuff about her cast, soule, her studio and there
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's fascinating. It's Irish Bure. It's very Irish bureky,
Speaker 1: very Kate Bush. You know, are weird girls who we love.
Speaker 1: I love it. You know when they were saying that
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish is the new Kate Bush and we all laughed,
Speaker 1: and now I get it. I cried and I cried,
Speaker 1: but I get what they're saying, like young prodigy, kind
Speaker 1: of like doing something different. Yes, anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to put that out. No, I think it's an interesting comparison.
Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting that than when people say,
Speaker 1: like Karen kolicheck Karin, which I don't think is necessarily
Speaker 1: a similar We love her, we love her, God, my God,
Speaker 1: we stand, we stand. I don't think that that's really
Speaker 1: two of the same things.
Speaker 2: I just watched that they were just released again. You
Speaker 2: know how Billy Irish says the same interview yes every year,
Speaker 2: every year, so this is the sixth one, and I
Speaker 2: think it is a thing of like Nicole, it might
Speaker 2: be needing to end, because it's getting to the point
Speaker 2: now where she is like watching herself from six years
Speaker 2: past and she's kind of just like yeah, man, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like it feel like the loop has closed
Speaker 2: on it. Whereas it's like, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: longer she'll do it. But Billie Eilish as of late
Speaker 2: seems like a very adult person, whereas like, I think
Speaker 2: what's been fun about those Billie Eilish interviews is it's
Speaker 2: like watching it out like how she goes, like look
Speaker 2: how she changes, and now she's just sitting there and
Speaker 2: she's just like, Wow, I can't believe I've done this
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 1: I really was young.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing else being offered in the vein of
Speaker 2: why we're interviewing her. It's just like it's been a thing.
Speaker 1: I like the concept. It doesn't have to be like
Speaker 1: Richard Linkleader like I do like her more and more. Oh, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know that little Barbie song, the Barbie's song, Oh
Speaker 1: my well in the film too perfect moment in there.
Speaker 1: I saw it again last night and I almost cried. Wow.
Speaker 2: I've had more emotional reaction the second time seeing it
Speaker 2: than I did the first. The first I was kind
Speaker 2: of just like overwhelmed and like I can't believe this movie,
Speaker 2: Like wow. And then the second time, I think I
Speaker 2: was ready to receive the messages a little bit more
Speaker 2: and I was really really moved by it. And that
Speaker 2: part is like when they show all the images and
Speaker 2: cuts of different like women and girls throughout their life.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is pretty special. I was moved.
Speaker 1: I was moved. I was teary eyed. I laughed, I
Speaker 1: got teary eyed. I had full, you know, emotional story.
Speaker 1: Even on lexapro and especially you can do it. You
Speaker 1: can do it, you can do it. Should we confess
Speaker 1: something you and I our experience with another movie? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think we should. I think we should.
Speaker 2: I think everyone, here's what we're gonna say.
Speaker 1: And you know this is special, Ops, Lioness, is this
Speaker 1: what we're talking about?
Speaker 2: No, we didn't make it through Oppenhamer.
Speaker 1: We saw it in a theater, movie theater neither nor regal,
Speaker 1: tough village East by Angelica, huge theater of many happy memories.
Speaker 1: In that theater, I've seen the room there from plastic
Speaker 1: spoons at the screen there. I have seen a classic
Speaker 1: New York theater, classic theater. Stop Bridesmaid's there the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, I will always remember this moment, you know,
Speaker 1: I will always remember this moment of open him because
Speaker 1: one the concessions line was too long, down the block,
Speaker 1: down the block, in a manner of speaking, And then
Speaker 1: the movie itself, our main thing was is Filip Hugh
Speaker 1: gonna have tits out. Every scene she's in, she deserves
Speaker 1: better than this. Is Emily Blunt going to be an
Speaker 1: alcoholic nag, And every scene Che's in, she deserves better
Speaker 1: than this. And then that's like.
Speaker 2: The theme of Christopher Nolan's filmography is that the women
Speaker 2: in them deserved much better than that. But like, I
Speaker 2: mean literally, like my thing with it was with my
Speaker 2: one precious life. No more three hour movies.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna keep coming. Well yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: show no signs of stopping.
Speaker 2: But my thing is like, by the time Barbie is over,
Speaker 2: the bomb has an even gone off.
Speaker 1: And right, right right, and the bomb was going off
Speaker 1: in little ways up until the hour and a half
Speaker 1: mark for us anyway, where Matt was truly jumping out
Speaker 1: of his seat and we were like, this is not
Speaker 1: did you see this? I haven't? Yeah, right, And if
Speaker 1: you enjoy it, please, If anyone enjoys this movie, I celebrate.
Speaker 1: But for us in that moment on a Monday night,
Speaker 1: after the weekend we had, when did we do that weekend?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think we just like hung out a big week
Speaker 1: a big weekend of hanging out. But you were so
Speaker 1: relaxed from that and then to go into Oppenheimer get
Speaker 1: jilted around.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is what I wanted to say about the
Speaker 2: Angelica of it all.
Speaker 1: You feel it. And this is not a drag on them.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a drag on the movie because I
Speaker 2: realize I've had this problem with Christopher.
Speaker 1: Nolan's movies a lot. I can't hear them, like when
Speaker 1: I saw an Interstellar in what I thought was a
Speaker 1: great movie theater years ago, like I've given that movie
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, and I tend to give
Speaker 1: his movies the benefit of the doubt. Actually I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of his.
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear this movie, and I could not hear Interstellar,
Speaker 2: to the point where I was just like.
Speaker 1: What is it like? Is it just that everything is
Speaker 1: so The score was so it just.
Speaker 2: Covered the whole movie in a way that his scores do,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, girl, I can't.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the film yet, and I'm a big
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan fan, so I'm excited to going back, Yes,
Speaker 1: going way back. I just mentioned Batman. You know who
Speaker 1: else has heard of that film? No, but I will
Speaker 1: say I saw Tenet when it was out around the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and that film was so confusing. Yeah, I felt like
Speaker 1: my grandmother trying to watch Matrix. Yeah. I kept turning
Speaker 1: to my friend being like, what what is going on?
Speaker 1: I went to college, you know, I'm not educated. I
Speaker 1: know some stuff. I couldn't figure out who was what.
Speaker 1: And poor Elizabeth the bickie legs in the air. She
Speaker 1: looked eight feet taller than everybody. He didn't know how
Speaker 1: to shoot her, and you know, a six foot three man.
Speaker 1: I respect these tall girls. Yes, I respect these tall girls.
Speaker 1: And I don't like when men don't know how to
Speaker 1: film the Yeah, they got her in an suv, legs
Speaker 1: out in the air, she's looking like good for the
Speaker 1: big red dog. Yeah, it's just it's a sick way
Speaker 1: to treat a woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I would agree. And you know the
Speaker 2: thing is in this film, How'm told do you think
Speaker 2: Emily Blunt is five nine?
Speaker 1: She looked five eleven? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: It's he's filming them from up, try to get up
Speaker 1: their skirt. Why are they looking? So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Why would literally to go back to the Florence feel
Speaker 2: of it all? She really was nude the entire movie.
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna not be able to handle it.
Speaker 2: And there's and that's my girl.
Speaker 1: I know. We love flow. The reason is that, like
Speaker 1: there's secks, no problem, we love heard of it, heard
Speaker 1: of it. But then like that character, that person in
Speaker 1: real life, like sad little ending there. Then where's Killian's cock? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like if why is the woman nude
Speaker 1: the whole time? Yeah, you get flow tits, you get
Speaker 1: Killian cock. That's the equation. That's the equation for a film.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: Because on paper, every project looks like it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Sligh yes, right, so you can see why she would
Speaker 1: want to do something like this. Christopher Nolan is one
Speaker 1: of our current O Tours of Cinema. I think any
Speaker 1: actor actress would kill to have a role. Of course,
Speaker 1: I think she saw the role. At least it wasn't
Speaker 1: the housewife. You know. I'm sure she thought there was
Speaker 1: something interesting there. She's never done sex like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Lady Macbeth was there that much. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Right when Harry styles ate her out and
Speaker 1: don't worry darling, and.
Speaker 2: Then she was pissed about it. Remember she was like,
Speaker 2: stop producing this movie to just the sex. Because then
Speaker 2: Olivia Wilde was out there being like in my movie
Speaker 2: only the women come. Remember that narrative, Olivia Wilde and
Speaker 2: my movie only the Women Come. And then you find
Speaker 2: out at the end, like all the women are being brutalized.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, they come to grips.
Speaker 2: They come to grips with the fact that they're oppressor.
Speaker 2: Oh god, but flow, you know what flow? I think?
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, Emily probably looked at the
Speaker 1: scripts said I'm the now wife. But at least I'm
Speaker 1: on a horse and they can shoot me tall. Fun
Speaker 1: to be on a horse, I'll say that, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's actually not fun, not fun to be a horse,
Speaker 1: run horse for camera. Guess what this crew and I
Speaker 1: love his crew, but this crew decided to have a
Speaker 1: drone and of course the horse don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck that is. And then I almost died. Almost. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell you this almost died, And I wasn't a
Speaker 1: narrative that you came back with. Well, there were the
Speaker 1: other Marion from island was that I had a piece
Speaker 1: of use toilet paper, my own used toilet paper, stuck
Speaker 1: to my shoe. And then everybody on set saw and
Speaker 1: walking around set with a shitty with from his with
Speaker 1: a big groun on my pants, the big old brown.
Speaker 1: But the other a ic, the other rats was riding
Speaker 1: on horses and once you know the drone, even hundreds
Speaker 1: of yards away. These horses can clock. They were spoke, Yes,
Speaker 1: they were spooking. Then I almost a horse can clock.
Speaker 1: A horse could clock, horse could clock famous famous. So
Speaker 1: you almost got booked. I almost got bucked. And there
Speaker 1: was part of me though that I was like, this
Speaker 1: is a good way to.
Speaker 2: Go, chic way to die. And Yang was on set
Speaker 2: in Iceland. He was thrown from a horse and passed.
Speaker 1: Now I remember the narrative you loved Iceland because I
Speaker 1: just got back from Ice. Tell us about your Iceland experience.
Speaker 1: Iceland is one of the most magical places I've ever been.
Speaker 1: The people are so funny, a deeply funny people. I've
Speaker 1: never seen you so happy that when you came back
Speaker 1: it was one of the best vacations I've ever taken
Speaker 1: in my life. First of all with Josh and Aaron,
Speaker 1: who the readers know, and they're just the easiest people
Speaker 1: to travel with. I mean, you know, we've done Fire
Speaker 1: Island with them. They're very easy people to be around,
Speaker 1: and they know people from their improv days. Big improv
Speaker 1: scene in Iceland, big huge improv scene. You'd never who
Speaker 1: would guess I wouldn't guess that. And so their friends
Speaker 1: from improv have a summer house. Take us to the
Speaker 1: summerhouse in the south of Iceland. Waterfalls everywhere. We're going
Speaker 1: to Foss Goga Fos, which is their backyard Foss. We're
Speaker 1: seeing puffins and manatees eat. They eat the puffin there.
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not partake not great puff
Speaker 1: a gorgeous little bird, the sport not off, not off,
Speaker 1: not often. It's like an old Icelandic tradition, but they
Speaker 1: don't really keep it up with it anymore. They eat puffins,
Speaker 1: don't They don't. But no, it was just like the
Speaker 1: people were amazing. Raichvic's so darn cute and charming. They're
Speaker 1: obsessed with water. I house knows this house and I
Speaker 1: used to go every Sunday to we Spaw in La
Speaker 1: when we both lived there. It's just one of the
Speaker 1: great institutions. And I was saying, we're going to need
Speaker 1: to do that soon. It looks amazing. It's amazing, Jersey.
Speaker 1: It was what I was going to do before. Beyond
Speaker 1: five floors. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: We you also need to join us at the when
Speaker 2: we went to the Governor's the Governor's Island SPA.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a truck, but so is Jersey.
Speaker 1: I'll go, I'll go. It's a trek, but you take
Speaker 1: the ferry right there. They like have their own fais
Speaker 1: so you know it's spot fair. But anyway, they're obsessed
Speaker 1: with spot culture. Where did you go? Do you go
Speaker 1: to Winter Blue? Did you go to sky Lagoon? I
Speaker 1: think so. I can't remember the other name. It's outside Rykovic,
Speaker 1: but I think it's sky. But you're on the water
Speaker 1: and you're in like these rocks and you're in the
Speaker 1: water in a hoot lagoon. It's insane. Now can I
Speaker 1: ask when they say hot lagoon? Just how hot? A
Speaker 1: perfect ninety two? And you walk up and they with
Speaker 1: all of these they've walk up bars and you have
Speaker 1: your like wrists things to your clock. Let me get
Speaker 1: an apperall sprits clock. Let me get a da da
Speaker 1: da clock. Let me get some wine as I'm tipsy
Speaker 1: as hell. Look at you would love this is so
Speaker 1: looking at the stunning ocean, the clouds are passing by.
Speaker 1: It's in summer. It's a nice sixty degrees like it was.
Speaker 1: Just that was the part of it. And then I said,
Speaker 1: let's go for New Year's Eve. And then they said,
Speaker 1: well that's when there's only three and a half hours
Speaker 1: or sunlight or whatever. Yeah, and no one's going out.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. Highest density of puffin of puffin
Speaker 1: of in the highest sensity of people who write novels
Speaker 1: per population. Isn't that beautiful? This novelists per capita. Yes.
Speaker 1: Fascinating fact about Iceland. This is the thing about Iceland
Speaker 1: and the Icelandic people. There is no original sin. The
Speaker 1: Vikings just got there. No one was there. Let's build
Speaker 1: a town. They didn't have to kill anybody. Nope, didn't
Speaker 1: have to like make anybody feel crazy or they don't
Speaker 1: have the guilt, they don't have the shame. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what's one cool. Other thing is that there's
Speaker 1: only one real gay bar because gay queer people are
Speaker 1: so integrated into the culture that they don't need for
Speaker 1: their own safe little space. They don't really need it.
Speaker 1: They're out at all the straight bars with everybody else
Speaker 1: chilling hanging out. I was like, this is so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it was very very special. And the actors there, oh,
Speaker 1: I just say the people who played my family. I
Speaker 1: probably talked about this already on nor from Queens. It
Speaker 1: was like the Meryl Streep of Iceland, and it was
Speaker 1: like the like leading character actor of Iceland, and they've
Speaker 1: known each for thirty years, like, hey, how are you?
Speaker 1: And then they like they're like, we love doing comedy
Speaker 1: because they're like all we do here are like Nordic
Speaker 1: noirs and it's so depressing. Everyone's getting raped and killed
Speaker 1: on our shows, it's always girl with the dragon tattoo.
Speaker 1: And then they're like this is this is fun. They're like,
Speaker 1: we want more comedies.
Speaker 2: So you go there, it's like this incredible community spirit.
Speaker 2: And then the reason why you were there was.
Speaker 1: To see York. Let's talk about this. So basically what
Speaker 1: happened was New York was supposed to do her concert.
Speaker 1: There she's doing like a flute or castral moment. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: I saw she couldn't make get the flutes to Iceland
Speaker 1: because of some it was. It was it was a supply, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so she was like, shoot, well, anyone who is
Speaker 1: outside of Iceland and bought flights, I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: DJ set for you. Said shoot, she said darn it.
Speaker 1: She said darn it. And so she said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a fabulous little DJ set for you.
Speaker 2: And so, so the way it always explained to me
Speaker 2: was there was supposed to be a big concerent in Iceland,
Speaker 2: and then she said, I'm canceling it if you are
Speaker 2: from Iceland.
Speaker 1: Sorry, girl.
Speaker 2: Obvious international ticket holders got special dejas, Yet.
Speaker 1: How could they tell based on like where you purchased? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure your credit card you understand, you understand. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we go there. She holds it. It her friend's art gallery.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred people, that's it, and she it's we're scheduled.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be like two and a half hours,
Speaker 1: and we're like, is she going to do a full
Speaker 1: two and a half hour DJ set? So we get there.
Speaker 1: She's in her garb, she dressed up. The girl is
Speaker 1: fully in a green wig and like there's some fun
Speaker 1: guys outside out out of her and like she's wearing
Speaker 1: like a gown and like a cape and the full thing.
Speaker 1: And she's just up top, like five feet above us,
Speaker 1: just like a little bit above us, and like saying hi.
Speaker 1: And then she does a two and a half hour set.
Speaker 1: She starts with forty minutes of classical remixes that she
Speaker 1: does herself into tropical beats, into hardcore wrap into like
Speaker 1: indie remix. It is the most insane DJ set I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life. And she's just like fully
Speaker 1: like jumping with the audience, like getting her life, sweating
Speaker 1: her tits off. It was unreal, one of like the
Speaker 1: most sacred experiences I've had. She was amazing, this woman.
Speaker 1: Did you ever listen to the podcasts. Yeah album. Yes,
Speaker 1: this woman knows music in a way that you would
Speaker 1: never believe. It knows everything about everything. It's crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean even sugar Cubes. I mean she was like eleven
Speaker 1: writing insane music. I mean she is a prodigy in
Speaker 1: like the truest sense and continue used to evolve, which
Speaker 1: is exciting to like have an artist you've loved since
Speaker 1: you were a kid and they keep doing new things.
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't always happen, doesn't always happen. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's really interesting when you have someone who has
Speaker 1: that stamina. Yes, because that they don't all because some
Speaker 1: of them are holl up in their Irish castles with
Speaker 1: their cats and their cats and won't say hi to me.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of flop though? I mean, are we
Speaker 1: let's let's take any of the task because come on,
Speaker 1: come on, we need it. We give it to us.
Speaker 2: What is the other end your song that's really good?
Speaker 2: It's only time.
Speaker 1: Sail Away? That is a fucking gorgeous song. What was
Speaker 1: the CD that was like Pure Moods that would come
Speaker 1: on your Celtic Moods Celtic and that song was always
Speaker 1: blasting on the TV. They're selling that CD in that
Speaker 1: Celtic moods. Celtic moods speaking of people who like continue
Speaker 1: to evolve and stuff. We did just see Beyonce this week.
Speaker 1: I mean the East Rutherford show.
Speaker 2: And I love when I love Whenever anyone plays MetLife
Speaker 2: and they go New.
Speaker 1: Jersey, contractually, I think they can't say New York. You
Speaker 1: know what I would do if I was one of
Speaker 1: the girls, and I'm gonna act it out if I
Speaker 1: was taking And this is you have to understand. When
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is on stage at MetLife, she's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, unless it's the Evermore or Folklore's She's only.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift when it's Evere and when she does the
Speaker 1: surprise songs go.
Speaker 2: And also you could argue that Taylor Swift makes an
Speaker 2: appearance sometimes in the Fearless section. So this is my
Speaker 2: impression of what I would do as Taylor Swift if
Speaker 2: I'm on stage at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey,
Speaker 2: be cheering for me.
Speaker 1: Woo yes, thank you everyone, It's so fun to be
Speaker 1: in New Jersey tonight. Hi, New York. Then I would go.
Speaker 1: But you know what she did in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I think I have a pretty solid memory of this,
Speaker 1: and it's been you know, documented recorded. I think she went,
Speaker 1: it's nice to be in Jersey. Some people came in
Speaker 1: from New York and even Connecticut. You saw Taylor. It
Speaker 1: sucks Clay blank space. I think my girl. I think
Speaker 1: she felt like she had the responsibility to do the
Speaker 1: entire tri state, you know what I mean. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was like some fishermen from May. Yeah, Rhode Island, Queens.
Speaker 1: Stand up. All of a sudden, she becomes like Road Island, Queen,
Speaker 1: Roe Island, Queens.
Speaker 2: What So this is a Taylor Swift community right here.
Speaker 2: What do you think? And I'm really already willing to
Speaker 2: jump ahead? What do you think is the next era
Speaker 2: of Taylor?
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's August first, So let's say
Speaker 1: salt are August prayer, and that's August prayer. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad we got to that. Yeah, you know, because let's
Speaker 1: break down all the Okay, next Sarah Swift. Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: was very much Taylor Swift, like I'm country girl. Then
Speaker 1: Fearless was country superstar, country superstar. Let me dip into
Speaker 1: faith Hill esthetic let me dip into Yeah, the Golden Girl,
Speaker 1: Golden Girl from the Country. Then we speak now was
Speaker 1: Disney Disney Princess. Yes, Red was pop crossover country super star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a woman. I'm a woman.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm a woman, and I've actually been through things, Jake,
Speaker 2: So now we're ready to talk.
Speaker 1: Where's the scarf?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the scarf and that's like the color of the imagery.
Speaker 2: That was the first like sort of really, Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: really started to come out.
Speaker 1: She crept out, she jumped out, and then she jumped
Speaker 1: back in. And but nineteen eighty nine was Imperial Face
Speaker 1: pop superstar in New York. Bitch first, Imperial Face. Some
Speaker 1: might argue, yeah, girlfriends first. Every night is a girl's night, Yes, Barby,
Speaker 1: very very Barby Harby. Yeah, girls night only, no boys allowed.
Speaker 2: They just can if Margot Robbie was around at the time,
Speaker 2: like she would have been in the squad like et cetera.
Speaker 1: And she wasn't around at the time. Can you believe
Speaker 1: we got every single stop she had she was introducing
Speaker 1: someone to come out on stage. We got Bird, we
Speaker 1: got Wow from in Treatments, from from in treatment.
Speaker 2: It was so funny because it was literally like I
Speaker 2: think there was like six models came out and then
Speaker 2: she literally goes and now.
Speaker 1: You know her from Orders the New Black and.
Speaker 2: Everyone was like and then she was like, oh so
Speaker 2: Onduba and comes out and stomps everyone screaming.
Speaker 1: Where she did she was ready. First of all, she
Speaker 1: doesn't not serve. She doesn't not serve. I did do
Speaker 1: something last year at the Emmys Night before party where
Speaker 1: I was very excited to see her, the only person
Speaker 1: I was excited to see, and I did go up
Speaker 1: here and say I'm a huge fan. She goes, thanks,
Speaker 1: you're calling her out. I'm calling her out a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed, and now I know that
Speaker 1: sometimes I should try to avoid that energy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean what it just.
Speaker 2: Makes the circulation and it gets back too Aduba and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, no, I know who he was. I
Speaker 2: don't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I don't like that. I don't
Speaker 1: like that God, I don't liked that's the guy from SNL.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. Comes out.
Speaker 2: I hated Fire Island. She thought as politics were wrong.
Speaker 1: She disagrees. You know, this is like when I went
Speaker 1: to the SAG Awards and I ran into Robert Mairo
Speaker 1: and I said, thank god we finally met. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is really that's a good line for Robert and he laughed, God,
Speaker 1: that's really funny. I was drunk as a skunk. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Lewis was fussy, fussy, I was getting my life. Wasn't
Speaker 1: there someone else you went up to? God? Am I
Speaker 1: going to say? Zoe Kravitz? I went up to Zoey
Speaker 1: Kravitz and I held her hand and I said, maybe
Speaker 1: you can say faggot. He's not giving me from our credit.
Speaker 1: He said, Baby, in that dress, you can say faggot.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she could, and I think she can be
Speaker 1: said thank you maybe in that thank you stay faggot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was having fun, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did we meet anyone? Every time I've been with
Speaker 2: you to the Emmys?
Speaker 1: That was sort of like pre well, Michelle Williams and
Speaker 1: Busy Phillips was that that was an iconic first meeting.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bizzy Phillips was coming back from the bathroom right
Speaker 2: behind us with Michelle Williams, and she looked at us
Speaker 2: and she goes, you guys are doing it right with
Speaker 2: those drinks through double fisting cocktails of course.
Speaker 1: And then did she reveal that she knew who you were.
Speaker 1: She did not reveal, But then when she came on
Speaker 1: the podcast, she said that she did know at the time,
Speaker 1: which I don't busy. I don't think I believe you.
Speaker 2: No, I think she did. I actually think that you
Speaker 2: are well known.
Speaker 1: It is known who Bowen is not it is it
Speaker 1: is known, it is known. But uzzo oh, I was
Speaker 1: going through Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So what I was saying was that then there was
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, which was Imperial phase pop star like Nah.
Speaker 1: Then of course there was the.
Speaker 2: Great fall in the media reputation, and then that was
Speaker 2: the great album reputation, the.
Speaker 1: Greatest, one of the greatest albums of all time. It
Speaker 1: is so important that we speak that because some of
Speaker 1: these girls, I think they don't know there. There was
Speaker 1: a narrative and it got put on that album and
Speaker 1: it was it was false. There were many lies spread.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the one of the lies that Taylor
Speaker 2: told herself was that that album was a failure. Because
Speaker 2: in the Miss Americana documentary, she she on camera doesn't
Speaker 2: get the Grammy nominations and she's like, Okay, well, I
Speaker 2: just have to make a better album and I almost
Speaker 2: had to stand up and scream at the TV because
Speaker 2: I was like, no, this was the album.
Speaker 1: This was the you need to say that direct to camera.
Speaker 1: Reputation was the album, and we've actually said it many
Speaker 1: times because it actually won Album of the Year again
Speaker 1: this year. Did the culture No, no, it didn't. It
Speaker 1: didn't won Best Era. It won the Eras Award for
Speaker 1: Best another great award, equally equally esteem. So then after
Speaker 1: that was of course Lover, which was Queer Rights, which
Speaker 1: was of course I love his love, his love is love.
Speaker 1: It was the color of rainbow.
Speaker 2: It was giving purple clouds, pink clouds, the Lisa Frank,
Speaker 2: Lisa Frank, and then we of course had her doing
Speaker 2: interviews again because reputation was there will be no explanation,
Speaker 2: there is only reputation. I am not speaking to you
Speaker 2: because you did me wrong. But if you listen to
Speaker 2: the music, I'm actually happy, happier than.
Speaker 1: Not. That's not Taylor, No, that's Billy, but keep going.
Speaker 2: Then was followed by Folklore, which was of course pandemic
Speaker 2: like country Girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a folklore gal. I was just talking to
Speaker 1: someone about this too over the weekends. The album that
Speaker 1: turned them onto Taylor. The album that turned Patty Lapone
Speaker 1: onto Taylor was folk It was Spoke, Remember she tweeted,
Speaker 1: She was like, Yeah, I just went for a drive
Speaker 1: with my daughter. We put on the new Taylor Swift album.
Speaker 1: She's a Poet's better late than Ever, Patty, Yeah, Patty,
Speaker 1: And you know who Patty likes? Sun Times time writers. Yes,
Speaker 1: people who know that know that.
Speaker 2: Then after Folklore was of course the superior album of
Speaker 2: the pandemic, which was ever More.
Speaker 1: This. But House and I are together on this. It
Speaker 1: is such a powerful state Winter Girls, Winter Girls. There's
Speaker 1: nothing quite like it. No one's ever written anything quite
Speaker 1: like it. Which it really takes you back home to
Speaker 1: your hometown in a way that it's a place. It
Speaker 1: really puts you there in a way that I think
Speaker 1: is so specific. And I am still trying to figure
Speaker 1: the album out. And that's how you know it's still solving.
Speaker 2: During the Evermore era of the Aerostore.
Speaker 1: You hear tis the demn season and that's about the hometown, baby,
Speaker 1: amen Amen.
Speaker 2: Then Midnights Darkness, it's the theme is of course being
Speaker 2: up late.
Speaker 1: Yes, the theme is anxiety. Anxiety, The theme is adedive
Speaker 1: and yet the theme is best. Believe I'm still bejeweled.
Speaker 1: When I walk in the room.
Speaker 2: I can make the whole place. What is the next era?
Speaker 1: The next well, you know, there are reports that Max
Speaker 1: Martin and Shellback are back in the studio with her. Yes,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? It means imperial pop. It means
Speaker 1: like undeniable pop hooks are coming back. Not that Midnights
Speaker 1: didn't have the but Midnights was. I think Midnight was
Speaker 1: less sort of it's a little low fi. It's a
Speaker 1: little low fight. It's a little bit like vibes, a
Speaker 1: little bit like it's a little vibes. Yeah, exactly, it's
Speaker 1: a vibe album.
Speaker 2: It was actually I think exactly what I predicted it
Speaker 2: would be, which is what did I say? It was
Speaker 2: like like early two thousands, like yeah, like deaf cat
Speaker 2: death cab vibes, like I thought that the indie pop era, Yes,
Speaker 2: indie pop era, Like what's that called that? Such great heights? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sort of situation, like yeah, post service like that.
Speaker 2: That type of thing is the closest we've gotten from her.
Speaker 1: Jack anton Off is deaf and very immersed in that
Speaker 1: world and very interested in that world. And I think
Speaker 1: as a consumer of Taylor. I'd be very I'm very
Speaker 1: interested to see post Jack a little bit more, a
Speaker 1: little more coke, a little less, Kay you understand? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get her back on her feet. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Okay without Jack, I don't think we need Jack for
Speaker 1: a minute. I I like what he's done, big fan
Speaker 1: of that guy. But I just think that artists need
Speaker 1: to work with new producers and expand themselves. And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you get into these relationships and these patterns,
Speaker 1: you can be creating similar things for a number of Well,
Speaker 1: I was, do you think, so? How do you feel
Speaker 1: about what Jack did to Lord with the Yellow album?
Speaker 1: The yellow album Yellow Album with Sunset with what's it
Speaker 1: called called Solar Power?
Speaker 2: Solar Power, which is famously an album that Jack Anzanof
Speaker 2: did to Lord.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, I think so. I think that Lord
Speaker 1: has been a darling of critics for a very long time.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes having a miss makes you even greater.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes in your early career, having a
Speaker 1: miss like that can make you hungrier and ready for
Speaker 1: in a new way, for an era that's more exciting.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that the lesson is, you know, Jack flopped.
Speaker 1: Now I fly, I hope, I hope, God, I hope.
Speaker 2: So I fucking love Lord.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, there.
Speaker 2: Was not a bone in my body that could get
Speaker 2: into that album Melodrama.
Speaker 1: That is one of one of the perfect albums of
Speaker 1: our generation. It's a perfect album, and to go from
Speaker 1: that to Yellow album, it's shocking shock.
Speaker 2: Maybe there was just like there was this thing and
Speaker 2: I think there's this thing with Lord where it's like
Speaker 2: she took a really she took a much bigger swing
Speaker 2: than I think she thought she. Yeah, yes, because there
Speaker 2: wasn't anything to latch onto with that album, like even
Speaker 2: the first single, Like people seemed excited about it for like.
Speaker 1: I was excited for exactly twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say forty eight yea yeah, but like
Speaker 2: and then it kind of went away and I was
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, there needs to be something else. Also,
Speaker 2: maybe it didn't feel as fresh and new as she
Speaker 2: thought that was gonna sound, because like Harry Styles was
Speaker 2: kind of doing a similar type thing, leastothetically Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I felt like really pop and a lot to latch onto.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah? Bad? No, No, No, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Ultimately, that which is a house saying. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think that the production wouldn't have stopped it if
Speaker 1: the writing were better. I do think that that album
Speaker 1: was not written as well as Melodrama, and I think
Speaker 1: that the production exacer baited that. Yeah, and I do
Speaker 1: think that having an album flop like that could very
Speaker 1: well be great for her. I think there's many lessons
Speaker 1: in failure, and as many lessons in failure more so
Speaker 1: probably than in success. And so hopefully, you know, she
Speaker 1: takes that and makes a really strong, beautifully written album
Speaker 1: because Melodrama is so well written.
Speaker 2: I mean, actually, with all knowledge of the fact that
Speaker 2: Melodrama is her greatest work to date, I still prefer
Speaker 2: Pure Heroin because of where it takes me back to.
Speaker 1: Which is like right after college.
Speaker 2: Right after college, I remember I was like, this is
Speaker 2: so lame, but I was like very much in like
Speaker 2: a place I was like experimenting with weed a lot,
Speaker 2: like smoking a lot of we for the first time,
Speaker 2: and like listening to like four hundred Lucks and being
Speaker 2: a little stone and like walking around New York. I
Speaker 2: felt thought I was like killing it. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just love.
Speaker 1: Pure Heroin so so, so so much.
Speaker 2: And then melodrama I can fully respect, is like probably
Speaker 2: one of the greater albums of.
Speaker 1: The past, like ten years. Who's to say that Solar
Speaker 1: Power there in like two albums from now is going
Speaker 1: to be like her reputation, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because there really was a stench on that on reputation
Speaker 1: for a long time. I don't think there was from
Speaker 1: the media. From the media, I think there definitely was.
Speaker 1: She wasn't talking about I think that the audience loved reputation. Well,
Speaker 1: I just remember the day that reputation leaked. I remember
Speaker 1: this day one person in particular, I won't say his name.
Speaker 1: It was like, ugh, do you want me to send
Speaker 1: you Taylor Swift's disgusting bad album? And I already listened
Speaker 1: to it at that point. I want to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it, was not it. Here's what I'll say.
Speaker 2: I will cup to this when look what you made
Speaker 2: me do it first came out, I was like, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: I will go on record as saying yeah, which, by
Speaker 2: the way, it's now. First of all, when she does
Speaker 2: it in the concerts, so you're living and screaming, and
Speaker 2: now I love it and I get it. When it
Speaker 2: first came out. I think I didn't like the whole
Speaker 2: angle of like I'm antagonizing the media back after like
Speaker 2: all this stuff and if you, if you really think
Speaker 2: about it, like that was such a difference from what
Speaker 2: she had done that I was just like I did
Speaker 2: not get it, did not like it, did not.
Speaker 1: Like the video.
Speaker 2: Whereas now I want to go back and I want
Speaker 2: to like lightly just slap myself in the face a
Speaker 2: little bit and say you, shame on you.
Speaker 1: But also with Taylor, there's always typically besides anti hero,
Speaker 1: there's backlash from every lead single. I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: part of being a Tailor fan is you're always a
Speaker 1: little off put by the lead single.
Speaker 2: She's made the wrong choice, I think a couple times,
Speaker 2: for many times, in spite being you know, this master
Speaker 2: riddler of sorts, the lead.
Speaker 1: Single she gets wrong a lot. It's it's an achilles
Speaker 1: heel of hers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't ever get the lead single wrong?
Speaker 1: Beyonce. Yeah, Beyonce's lead single is never wrong. Break my
Speaker 1: soul formation, break.
Speaker 2: My soul was, and you hear it in the concert
Speaker 2: when you when you're out, break my soul goes off
Speaker 2: so hard and talk about a little bit of renaissance.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm being stupid, I'm being no, but I that
Speaker 1: was wrong. Well no, no, but I can kill that instinct,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But what if you hadn't
Speaker 1: said something, then I would have been out here saying
Speaker 1: we would have the Reputation World Tour and said, break
Speaker 1: my soul.
Speaker 2: People would have me we're not fighting, we're kind of
Speaker 2: back together.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2: When we would have fought is if he had let
Speaker 2: me be out here looking like a fucking dumb ass.
Speaker 1: Like I would have. Yeah, I like you would have
Speaker 1: out here saying we went to the Beyonce show, Reputation, Reputation.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, I would like to see
Speaker 1: Beyonce's cover of Reputation please she would rip it up.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Renaissance Part two. Any cover I wish Renaissance
Speaker 1: Part two is just reputation. Renaissance is just Beyonce recording reputation.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any theories on when AT two
Speaker 1: will be or what it will be?
Speaker 2: Every one of my theories has been wrong and exhausted,
Speaker 2: like the fact that there's not been any videos at
Speaker 2: this point. I think it's iconic never give it to us,
Speaker 2: don't ever give it to us. Also, you know what
Speaker 2: I've withholding. I love the withholding. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I've rediscovered. Just besides that for a second, and I
Speaker 2: do want to talk about this, but I have been
Speaker 2: all over Tina Knows Lawson's Instagram. That woman makes me
Speaker 2: laugh so much funny when she joke, she goes, Hi, everybody,
Speaker 2: it's time for a corny joke. And she'll just tell
Speaker 2: the worst joke you've ever heard, and she'll and she'll
Speaker 2: and everyone would being like, you know, that's funny. Like
Speaker 2: and also she acts sometimes like there's one wait, I
Speaker 2: have to play it's an actor.
Speaker 1: She's been in movie. There's one she has been in
Speaker 1: a movie. She was in that movie with she is,
Speaker 1: I will say, like one of the most charming social
Speaker 1: media presences. I like social media with older people, like
Speaker 1: there's less it should be for parents. It's such a
Speaker 1: it's more enjoyable. I don't like when people are too
Speaker 1: curated on social media, Like it's fun to just have
Speaker 1: Beyonce's mom telling Corney jokes and shopping at Costco. You know,
Speaker 1: this was my favorite video I watched yesterday, actually showed
Speaker 1: it to my mom. I said, mom, you need to
Speaker 1: be more like her. It was just on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: She's eating. It was on the sidewalk, and this is
Speaker 1: what she said. She's sitting with sol That is that
Speaker 1: Angie Bean's It's okay. So it's Tina Knowls giving direct
Speaker 1: to camera. This is what happens. Hi, We're at a
Speaker 1: little side watch that fe in Perry not really just
Speaker 1: New York City. And it's not sex in the City.
Speaker 1: It's like nuch in the city. Good. We look camera
Speaker 1: to Angie and Solange and they wave, just eating lunch
Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. We are about to get our so
Speaker 1: we're about to get our girl, We're about to get
Speaker 1: our grub on. I love it. I love it. It's
Speaker 1: not sex and the City. It's more like lunch in
Speaker 1: the city. I said, absolutely, so true, so true. Perfect.
Speaker 1: The simplest joke structure I would say, which is we're
Speaker 1: out side on the little cafe and Perry, not really,
Speaker 1: we're in New York City. That's Tana Knowles. She really
Speaker 1: has it. I will say. In that family, you don't
Speaker 1: get a ton of comedy. No, you really don't consense
Speaker 1: gold member, and it's nice to have one of them
Speaker 1: be a comedy girl, you know, my god, and you realize, like, oh,
Speaker 1: so she's the comedy girl, you know, because you got
Speaker 1: the serious daughter, the indie daughter, right, and then you
Speaker 1: got the mom who's the comedy queen. She's more wacky,
Speaker 1: Like I might do more jokes, I will say. I
Speaker 1: wanted to say about the concert. What I appreciated was
Speaker 1: when America has a problem, when she's in her b
Speaker 1: uniform comedy, it's campy and really silly, and it's the
Speaker 1: most campy I've seen her in years. It's really fun,
Speaker 1: Like I just love seeing her with that little wiggle
Speaker 1: in her bee costume. It's so silly. There was comedy
Speaker 1: in the show when she goes to sleep, Yes, cozy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's comedy. And you know what, it's not comedy, but
Speaker 1: you can tell she's like because formation I would say
Speaker 1: it was like her like I do stadiums down and
Speaker 1: it was severe and.
Speaker 2: It was it was very like we're here on a mission, galvinized.
Speaker 1: And that album is very is incredibly like personally like heavy,
Speaker 1: politically heavy. All of that renaissance is the first time
Speaker 1: we've seen her in years. Be like the key changes
Speaker 1: during Love on Top. Like the look she's getting, she's like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: she's like she's just having fun. She was, she was.
Speaker 2: I think she even said she's like, it's about enjoying life.
Speaker 1: She said it. During the concert, she gave a Wendy Williams, Oh.
Speaker 2: I don't think she expected as many key changes as
Speaker 2: she literally cut us off key changes.
Speaker 1: She said, okay, give yourselves around applause, and it was
Speaker 1: a little bit like good job, but it was a
Speaker 1: little bit like okay, stop she told She told London
Speaker 1: to shut up too. We were people were going crazy
Speaker 1: in London. And then I remember her being like, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, it's embarrassing that we're the audience that
Speaker 1: couldn't go on mute. Though I was on you the
Speaker 1: closer we were on mute. We were on me the
Speaker 1: whole time, the audience that's done the best so far
Speaker 1: as Nashville, and so I think, whatever the stop she
Speaker 1: has left, please everybody mute, go on mute. So tell
Speaker 1: people what this is. Though it's during energy when she
Speaker 1: goes big wave in the room, everybody the crowd goall move,
Speaker 1: look around, everybody on mute.
Speaker 2: And then you're all supposed to stop for four times,
Speaker 2: for four counts. And the worst is when you look
Speaker 2: around and everyone gets it, and then you have two
Speaker 2: people that are.
Speaker 1: Like whoa, and I'm just like, no, what you understand
Speaker 1: about mute? What? Yeah? What don't you understand? Speak to
Speaker 1: them a person, you know what they're not doing talking, screaming, singing,
Speaker 1: they're mute. So it's a command from Beyonce. I would
Speaker 1: advise that you listen, you know, and the song here
Speaker 1: in exactly That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: What if she had said I want to do a
Speaker 2: special song tonight, I wouldn't have been out.
Speaker 1: I would have been out of fallen out. Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? One of my favorite vocals of hers. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's such a good song, too beautiful song. I am
Speaker 1: alone out speak speaking of this. He just jumped out
Speaker 1: of his skin. Didn't expect. You need to get dream
Speaker 1: Girls back on Broadway. It's been to your right and
Speaker 1: London Weston got it and they added listen to it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. They do it, they want they did
Speaker 1: it is do it. I don't care. America Broadway needs
Speaker 1: to get dream Girls back on stage.
Speaker 2: America has a problem. No dream your number ninety nine.
Speaker 1: America has a problem. No dream Girls on Broadway. Amber
Speaker 1: Riley was ready to come over here and win the
Speaker 1: Tony and a heartbeat. It would have been five four,
Speaker 1: three two one that easy.
Speaker 2: It's actually important that we say this out loud on
Speaker 2: this actual particular podcast, because when we said out loud
Speaker 2: that we needed a Sweeney Todd big budget revival, it
Speaker 2: then happened.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 2: So this is a podcast where things get spoken into existence.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's just number one listeners. They're Katie. Everyone
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 2: Broadways would well, a lot of them are readers, publicists,
Speaker 2: a lot of finalists, fists, a lot of finalists on Broadway.
Speaker 1: But I want to.
Speaker 2: Say, in terms of the Beyonce of it all, what
Speaker 2: is the Act two?
Speaker 1: When is it coming?
Speaker 2: I think it's a totally because if you look at
Speaker 2: the design of the Act one Renaissance, it says Act
Speaker 2: one Renaissance, like Renaissance is the name of Act one.
Speaker 2: So Act two I think it's going to be a
Speaker 2: completely different thing, completely different vibe. I think Renaissance was
Speaker 2: the house album. I think Act two is.
Speaker 1: I still think she is going to do some sort
Speaker 1: of country thing, definitely will, but I think it will
Speaker 1: be whatever. It will be heavily instrumental, like I do
Speaker 1: think it's going to be like rock country like it's
Speaker 1: going to be using like real instruments, like live band
Speaker 1: type vibe is what I what I would imagine where
Speaker 1: she would pivot from this. Maybe acoustic, I could see,
Speaker 1: I could. But do you remember when she was in
Speaker 1: Vegas and she had the girls band and it was
Speaker 1: all girls and she had that live rock band. I
Speaker 1: think something like that kind of This is the first
Speaker 1: tour where she's had she's had the boys back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because for a while there was it was
Speaker 1: all went on stage. Yes, boys are back in town.
Speaker 1: Boys are back big time. Yeah. And Beyonce would often say, ladies,
Speaker 1: right ess Actually real culture number eight.
Speaker 3: Beyonce would often say, ladies, we.
Speaker 1: Have to ask you the question havac Roger's house, What
Speaker 1: is the culture that made you say? Culture is for me? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I thought about this. That's good for a while.
Speaker 1: So when I was growing up, my next door neighbors
Speaker 1: were these lesbians called Debian Carol, and I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with them and I was best friends with their daughter,
Speaker 1: Lauren Lauren l O r n E. Spooking me. Last name,
Speaker 1: last name. Just take a guest the last name Mike Michelle.
Speaker 1: This is just the craziest last name. Batman A T
Speaker 1: M A n. Lorne Batman, Batman. Also we're listening to
Speaker 1: this I Love you girl. Was it Batman? B A
Speaker 1: T M A in So did you pronounce it Batman? Batman? Yes? Batman? Well,
Speaker 1: you know Batman. So this girl was how old? We
Speaker 1: were whatever, six or seven? This girl was how old?
Speaker 1: It's obviously different age every year, So you were six
Speaker 1: or seven? So this was in nineteen ninety five something, yeah,
Speaker 1: very much. So.
Speaker 2: Lorne Michaels was very established, and so was Batman. So essentially,
Speaker 2: when you name your daughter Lauren Batman, you know exactly
Speaker 2: what you're doing, or you should. Yes, okay, sorry, Debbie
Speaker 2: and Carroll, you kind of well, they kind of just
Speaker 2: something iconic.
Speaker 1: This is in Indiana too, though, you know this is
Speaker 1: you know, this is Cornfields. So okay. So she was
Speaker 1: my best friend. We were really young and we were
Speaker 1: obsessed with the Spice Girl. And I wouldn't listen to
Speaker 1: it at my house. I would only listen to it
Speaker 1: at Lauren's house, and Debbie and Carol knew I was
Speaker 1: obsessed with the Spicy anyway, and they knew I was
Speaker 1: obsessed with Posh Spice, and they took me to see
Speaker 1: the Spice World movie with Lauren and then they used
Speaker 1: to take me on vacation with them, like they took
Speaker 1: me to Key West. They knew I was gay, and
Speaker 1: they always like did things to like let me kind
Speaker 1: of you know. Well, they surprised me and took Lauren
Speaker 1: and I to see Spice Girls on tour Deer Creek, Indiana,
Speaker 1: and they let me. They dressed me up like Posh
Speaker 1: and we got to go. I got to go to
Speaker 1: Spice Girls live and I was dressed like Posh and
Speaker 1: I was just like getting my life. It was the
Speaker 1: first time I was like out in the house, I
Speaker 1: kind of dressed girly and like me and Lauren were
Speaker 1: just like roaming the concert like on top of the world.
Speaker 1: And it was really kind of like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like yes, like this is this is like this feels right,
Speaker 1: this is life for sure.
Speaker 2: Just not even just the Spice Girls, not even just
Speaker 2: the Spice Girls on tour, but like inhabiting Posh.
Speaker 1: Inhabiting Posh, I got to free myself of some of
Speaker 1: the already cultural notions of like being a boy and
Speaker 1: my liking boy things at a very young age because
Speaker 1: Debbie and Carol knew and and let me kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, do be a little gay.
Speaker 2: Boy at their house as it were.
Speaker 1: This is really important because it's right before Brittany. But
Speaker 1: we're the generation that kind of like missed the Madonna
Speaker 1: boat in terms of like our childhood. So like, yes,
Speaker 1: spice girls giving you like girl power in your face
Speaker 1: and having that also mean like you can dress like
Speaker 1: us is like a huge deal. Yeah, they were literally
Speaker 1: little boys. There's like something.
Speaker 2: This this is bizarre what I'm gonna say, but like
Speaker 2: something about the nineties was like very like flavorful, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it's just like I think
Speaker 2: of the nineties, I think flavors, flavors, Like does that
Speaker 2: is that sold?
Speaker 1: No? Because literally, like I was watching like an Instagram
Speaker 1: story of someone like in their car blasting like old
Speaker 1: school marian. I was like there's something like are I'm
Speaker 1: immediately there and it's like it's even more evocative than
Speaker 1: the eighties to us, obviously because we weren't alive at
Speaker 1: the time. Like nineties it was like they they figured
Speaker 1: it out, they like dialed it to the exact right numbers. Well,
Speaker 1: it was maximalism in a way that our pop stars
Speaker 1: don't do as much. We got Gaga, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: in her streak, but I felt like, like the Spice
Speaker 1: girls are dressed as their name. Yeah, they're very saturated.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what they're like cartoon characters. I'm scary,
Speaker 1: I'm dressed, scary, I'm gosh, I'm dressed. You know, They're
Speaker 1: they're giving you cartoon characters and archetypes that you could
Speaker 1: affirm yourself at. Yeah, you know, and also they're giving
Speaker 1: you sex, and they're giving you like fun and playfulness
Speaker 1: and like, you know, as a gay boy growing up,
Speaker 1: like it was like, oh, they you know, really got
Speaker 1: to be themselves fully and like do these tours together
Speaker 1: and be friends. And it was very you know.
Speaker 2: They were also doing like claiming of sexuality and using
Speaker 2: the word feminism and talking about girl power and also
Speaker 2: putting sisterhood first and like making that message in their
Speaker 2: music way before people were talking about that in like
Speaker 2: a intellectual sense.
Speaker 1: Well, of course they.
Speaker 2: Were girl power, but I'm literally like there were five
Speaker 2: year old saying girl power and I remember I like
Speaker 2: that was the first time I had ever even heard
Speaker 2: the word feminism. Is when like in Spice World, when
Speaker 2: they're dressed up as each other and one of them
Speaker 2: is dressed up as Jerry and they're like.
Speaker 1: Feminism, blah blah blah, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Feminism, Like me, I'm a feminist, No, I know, And
Speaker 2: also like you know, truth be told.
Speaker 1: I still think the music's great. I still think they're
Speaker 1: one of the best girl groups we've ever had. Likely
Speaker 1: they are icon status that music if you listen to
Speaker 1: the records, Like I'm sorry. I remember being at the
Speaker 1: concert Deer Creek, Indiana, me dress the Spash and they
Speaker 1: were doing Viva Forever, and I sobbed my little gay
Speaker 1: eyes out. I was like absolutely, just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is the best Spice Girl song? Oh, that's really hard.
Speaker 1: Two becomes one. That's a really good one to become.
Speaker 1: One is iconic. Who do you think you are?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the answer is want to be,
Speaker 2: But I would say Spice up your life. You can't
Speaker 2: ever get away from it. When they come out in
Speaker 2: the end of the movie and they're coming out of
Speaker 2: the like fog and they're like, no, it's.
Speaker 1: That goes off, it still gets me hype. I can
Speaker 1: still listen to it. If that's blasting at the afters,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like be like, oh, yes, absolutely yes. Also,
Speaker 1: that movie's fun. The movie is so funny. By the way,
Speaker 1: we always say Post turns out a communic torn of force.
Speaker 1: She's a genius. I mean her seventy three questions with
Speaker 1: Vogue is one of the funniest things ever seen in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: This is the funniest one. This is the funniest single
Speaker 2: word anyone has ever said.
Speaker 1: What's the cause you care about? It's it's when when
Speaker 1: the guy's like, do you think I should give her
Speaker 1: my grandma's old wedding ring or this new one, and
Speaker 1: she goes, don't give her that ropey old thing.
Speaker 2: And then when her assistant comes in and she goes,
Speaker 2: I need to get you another dress.
Speaker 1: Where would you like to go on vacation?
Speaker 2: Ya, she's a free I'm still waiting on my house standing.
Speaker 2: There is so much about it, so much, so many moments.
Speaker 1: It's endlessly rewatchable. And she also when she can't do
Speaker 1: a handshake, you think maybe this woman has never shaken
Speaker 1: a hand. Before she goes up and it's like off
Speaker 1: and then it's off again, or she she's convinced that
Speaker 1: she only has one angle, which is like yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, there's a moment where she she like hugs someone,
Speaker 2: like says hello someone. She's like, you can tell she's
Speaker 2: so not used to greeting people.
Speaker 1: She's how are you great to see you? Aid No,
Speaker 1: she says, my award for outstanding achievement And she says
Speaker 1: my outing outstanding achievement award.
Speaker 2: Because remember the last culture is cultural Awards. Beckhamut Standing
Speaker 2: Achievement Award and for.
Speaker 1: Her role in the Spice World movie, right, that's what
Speaker 1: that is what we're referencing.
Speaker 2: I mean, there is a part of the movie where
Speaker 2: this honestly might be part of the culture that made
Speaker 2: me say culture was for me in terms of sense
Speaker 2: of humor. There's the scene where they're all doing the
Speaker 2: obstacle course and Pasha. It's revealed that Pasha is just
Speaker 2: walking along the side in her heels. I screamed, I
Speaker 2: said that, and that is the gayest ship I've ever seen,
Speaker 2: Like for me like to be screaming at her walking
Speaker 2: around the side, like look, she's like doesn't want to
Speaker 2: do the physical obstial course, like she's too cute for it,
Speaker 2: Like I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: The stress is dry clean only Melonie shuts up Cherry.
Speaker 1: Remember remember what is it? It goes, it goes on.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this spy with my little eyes something
Speaker 2: blue and they go hospital and Victoria goes shuts up.
Speaker 1: I will say, like she gets the comedy bits that stuff,
Speaker 1: like she is like very dry sense of humor, very British,
Speaker 1: very funny, like she can deliver a line. She's great
Speaker 1: in it. Holler is underrated, hollow. Yeah, that's incredible. I
Speaker 1: just took a hard left into Holler. But we have
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that forever. Is that what that album is called? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: the last one, the third Yeah is I mean it
Speaker 1: is just tragic when you listen to that though like that,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's missing Jerry, even though it's like did
Speaker 1: we ever miss it that much? That's the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: In all these groups, when one of them leaves, it
Speaker 2: is over, like if harmony was ended when Camila left,
Speaker 2: like one direction was ended when Zayne left. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it's so crazy that Harry was still in that. Harry
Speaker 2: wasn't the first to leave the group, and I think
Speaker 2: Zay has come out since and been like, yeah, literally,
Speaker 2: the only reason I left was because I wanted to
Speaker 2: be the first to leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you get out of that? It stands
Speaker 1: you apart. It says I'm the solo artist. But and
Speaker 1: then he did not really well he had he did,
Speaker 1: but it's like then he disappeared for like five years,
Speaker 1: didn't he.
Speaker 2: I think that's for like other reasons, right right, because
Speaker 2: he like pushed Yolanda had done a step you last,
Speaker 2: there was like a drama where like he like, wait,
Speaker 2: there was like a so he famously was with Gigi
Speaker 2: Hadid and then there was like a drama where like
Speaker 2: there was like a domestic dispute with Yolanda Hadid of
Speaker 2: the real house fridge and.
Speaker 1: Her fridge in the big frig. I'll never forget she
Speaker 1: pushed her out of it. He pushed her out of
Speaker 1: the fridge, and that's that was the step I'll never forget.
Speaker 2: We were in Palm Springs together, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: we've talked about that faded Palm Springs trip.
Speaker 1: I can't kicked out of the house. But that was
Speaker 1: when I got.
Speaker 2: A house into Beverly Hills because you fell in love
Speaker 2: with Kathy Hilton's sight on scenes, I did.
Speaker 1: You got it, you got it immediately. I just I
Speaker 1: did not realize that there were like funny people on
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, you know, I just thought they were
Speaker 1: all bitchy or something like. I just I really didn't
Speaker 1: watch it, so I didn't know, And that was just
Speaker 1: my context was like, oh, people like to watch them fighting.
Speaker 1: I watched the show. These girls are making me. Wow,
Speaker 1: these are funny, funny girl. He loves the old New York.
Speaker 1: New York is his girls. I know, they're just so fun.
Speaker 1: I mean Sonia and Ramona and Louayne and Beth and Carol.
Speaker 1: I mean they're so good. I was watching the old
Speaker 1: one right now. Watch six just to like get to
Speaker 1: the park because I think we is it. Derenda's in there.
Speaker 1: Durnda's not in there yet, Okay, I'm season seven. Seven
Speaker 1: six is is Harol six shop six is literally no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. Basically, I wanted I wanted to watch the
Speaker 1: you know this is gonna come out of nowhere. I
Speaker 1: wanted to watch the first episode of Aviva, and then
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch a bunch of little episodes in
Speaker 1: between and I wanted to get to the last episode
Speaker 1: of Aviva the Leg, the Leg, because the leg is
Speaker 1: truly one of the most incredible moments of teleficial about
Speaker 1: me is this. I'm second, I'm scathing Calfick. She's just
Speaker 1: goes crazy and then she goes here had her take it,
Speaker 1: I'll crawl, throws her leg over. I'm like, this is wild.
Speaker 1: She took off her leg and threw it.
Speaker 2: And I love when you watched the reunion of that
Speaker 2: because I recently also did watch that episode and the
Speaker 2: reunion she goes, Andy was like.
Speaker 1: How did you get it off so fast? Because you
Speaker 1: must have taken it off. You must have been preparing
Speaker 1: to do that. She goes, I was definitely preparing to
Speaker 1: take it off. And there's a little button and only
Speaker 1: I know where it is.
Speaker 2: So she was saying, like, only I know where the
Speaker 2: button is on my leg to take my leg off
Speaker 2: so I can pick it up and throw it or
Speaker 2: slamming on the table as it were.
Speaker 1: It is. I mean, it's so clearly produced and she
Speaker 1: what did come in like ready to do and she
Speaker 1: was cooked right outter that. They were like, we can't,
Speaker 1: we can't have this, but like it was everyone in
Speaker 1: that rest and that party was like laughing, gasping, screaming,
Speaker 1: every like fucking Kristin. Okay, wait, no I'm not, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to come back to the first reason of
Speaker 1: Kristin was good. She's coming back to legacy, running legacy,
Speaker 1: a girl, you're gonna get going, Kristen take and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, we don't it. She was good. Her tagline
Speaker 1: the first season was what I smart? Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: But the way she says her line, which maybe tells
Speaker 1: you that like she hated saying it, like.
Speaker 2: She thought it was funnier. I think she Okay, so
Speaker 2: this is what happens when comedy, when girls do comedy,
Speaker 2: but don't It's like she thought that she was doing
Speaker 2: a play on I'm not the sharper stool in the
Speaker 2: shed like pretty girls like doesn't mean we're not smart.
Speaker 1: She thought she was.
Speaker 2: Getting ahead of it right, and it just like was
Speaker 2: there was not enough of a structure to like get
Speaker 2: that across. It just sounded like she's acually stupid. She's not.
Speaker 1: She's a comedian. Not a comedian. Of course we know this,
Speaker 1: we know she's not.
Speaker 2: Bone was saying before we got here that he was
Speaker 2: watching Old Ronnie and now we know what season and
Speaker 2: was comparing it to New Roney.
Speaker 1: Have you are you caught up on New I'm caught
Speaker 1: up on New Roney. I really, who are you responding to? Well,
Speaker 1: I thought the Jenna when her comment her glasses flogging
Speaker 1: up from it being cold was really funny. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: is funny. She's funny, and she's a little awkward, and
Speaker 1: there's some things that aren't housewife like about her, which
Speaker 1: I think is interesting. You know, so I'm responding to her. She's,
Speaker 1: of course the star of the show at this point.
Speaker 1: I think that Brinn is of course gonna be great.
Speaker 1: You know, she's kind of hasn't been like much this
Speaker 1: past episode, but enjoy her. I like when she asked
Speaker 1: why Jenna got a free pass in, Aaron was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I like her more or whatever. I like.
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna be a good not villain, but
Speaker 1: you know, she's gonna be confrontational.
Speaker 2: She is the one that arrives on screen outside of Jenna.
Speaker 2: Aaron is the one that arrives on screen pops the most.
Speaker 1: Like. I think that.
Speaker 2: She she's very dropped in and like she she to
Speaker 2: me gives New York in a way where it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like she gives a fuck.
Speaker 1: I think this season is going to be interesting. I
Speaker 1: think by the end we'll see real personalities out of
Speaker 1: them all. But right now I'm getting two to three personalities,
Speaker 1: real authentic people who are also TV characters, and the
Speaker 1: rest are still figuring things out. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: things take time. I don't really judge a season based
Speaker 1: on the first two three Now, you know, it's very early.
Speaker 1: I think we need five or six to kind of
Speaker 1: sort out how things are going to play out. But
Speaker 1: right now, I would say people who I can see
Speaker 1: actually being players in the show would be Jenna, Brynn, Aaron. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whites. The whites. I do like that. I do
Speaker 1: like I do like the non whites. But wait, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I did not mean to make it about this,
Speaker 1: but I was like on sigh until this episode where
Speaker 1: she was like, oh god, you guys like going to
Speaker 1: the dollar store. You guys clearly didn't grow up poor.
Speaker 1: And then that like opened and I was like that,
Speaker 1: I like her.
Speaker 2: Now here's my thing. I like them all. I like uba.
Speaker 1: I think she has to.
Speaker 2: I think we're about to see her open up in
Speaker 2: a way like becoming up at tractions for next week
Speaker 2: Coming attractions, the preview for next week, Like I'm at
Speaker 2: the drive in the Coming Attractions.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with the Luba on the big screen?
Speaker 2: Like, so next week Uba looks like she cries and
Speaker 2: breaks down, and I'm like, when are we gonna see
Speaker 2: the core of Uba?
Speaker 1: Guess what what I ordered? Uber Hot? Oh? Yes, Uba?
Speaker 1: Oh bowing. Uba owns a hot sauce business. Oh I
Speaker 1: loveb Hot.
Speaker 2: I'm getting so Okay, here's what I'll do when it
Speaker 2: comes to me, I will bring it and we'll do
Speaker 2: a live tasting. Oh smart, that's good. Maybe that should
Speaker 2: be on our additional episode. Yes, uber hot taste.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So she's got like an acclaimed hot sauce line. It
Speaker 2: comes in three flavor I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm forgetting exactly what they are, but like they're
Speaker 1: you're actually gonna google it because because I'm actually of
Speaker 1: hot sauce culture, you are of hot saus I love
Speaker 1: to watch the show Hot Ones. Okay, so there's Haba narrow, Hot,
Speaker 1: Fresno mild, and Serrano medium, which kind of is just
Speaker 1: three different Sure, Okay, but I like that it's an
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Speaker 1: You're not an expert. Like, so one dimension is like,
Speaker 1: don't what do we call this? Quantum physics? Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: I think that's when like time travel starts to do
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Speaker 1: I've never it's interesting to see someone like her film themselves.
Speaker 1: I think from Housewives, get used to being filmed all
Speaker 1: the time and now can't stop filming herself or something.
Speaker 1: Because the most it's like, I feel like it's constantly
Speaker 1: being in an opinion about whatever she's got, but it's
Speaker 1: it's near constant filming. Yeah, herself. Bethany is interesting to
Speaker 1: me because I've had this thought and tell me this
Speaker 1: if this is like a stupid, unsophisticated thought, not that
Speaker 1: it matters, but like on TikTok, the aesthetic is always
Speaker 1: for me. As I'm watching her, I'm like she has
Speaker 1: lost her mind. And then she'll go on like the
Speaker 1: Today Show and talk to Jdah and Jenna and I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's the most composed. She's the Queen of England. She's
Speaker 1: the most composed woman. She knows exactly what her I
Speaker 1: wonder if to talk she just thinks that works for her.
Speaker 1: You know, did you see when she made that salad
Speaker 1: and it was all celery. Yes, And I've seen her
Speaker 1: like eat tuna rod of the can un cool down
Speaker 1: because I like that and it was sick.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying I've done it. But to see her
Speaker 2: do that and filmed myself eating raw that's what basically
Speaker 2: made a salad.
Speaker 1: That was dice, cherry tomatoes, chopped celery and like mayo
Speaker 1: with lemon tuna. They call it tuna salad. That's why
Speaker 1: I called it tuna salad. And I don't. I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: watching her eat this and I'm thinking, no, there's been
Speaker 1: a break. Something jumps on us and the dollars in
Speaker 1: her bank account because here we are talking about her
Speaker 1: making her money. She's by the way, I guess she's
Speaker 1: She is also iHeart podcast. She's an iHeart podcast and
Speaker 1: we love her. Don't listen to the show. It's really heart.
Speaker 1: I Heart encourages the intra show antagonizing like they want
Speaker 1: us to fight amongst each other. Oh yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: It's like Super Smash Brothers. It's Super SMA if they
Speaker 1: if Nintendo, if you make a Super Smash iHeart Radio edition,
Speaker 1: like the Ice Climbers would be like the Ice climbers
Speaker 1: because I don't want to fight you. But you and
Speaker 1: I fighting, you know, Nikki Glazer. I love that I
Speaker 1: would pay to see. We love you, Nicki. We would
Speaker 1: never fight you only in a video game. Only in
Speaker 1: a video game where you should we do some cards.
Speaker 1: Let's do some o my god, the host of the
Speaker 1: show over here right all right, I'm sorry, Recess with house.
Speaker 1: How does this work? How does this work? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I got these cards when I was seven years old.
Speaker 1: My aunt was a Reikie healer and energy healer, and
Speaker 1: she gave the me to these when I was young,
Speaker 1: so that I would always have to say, that's why
Speaker 1: they're apart, they're falling apart. So basically, these don't tell
Speaker 1: you your future. They actually just read your present energy.
Speaker 1: So it's it's not going to be able to tell
Speaker 1: you what will I do in Da da Da. It's
Speaker 1: about answering questions now to lead you to answers about
Speaker 1: your own life. So I love you know a question
Speaker 1: you could ask. I'll give you some examples so that
Speaker 1: you can think of it as also if you want,
Speaker 1: you can privately think the question, but it might not
Speaker 1: the podcast. Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Can we tell the cards. I listened to All Too
Speaker 2: Well ten minute version two times this morning. That's where
Speaker 2: I'm at.
Speaker 1: Okay, So basically, like, what do I need to move
Speaker 1: through this emotional imbalance I'm having? Could be a question
Speaker 1: or what should I focus on in life to be
Speaker 1: happier or et cetera, et cetera. Okay, I have so it.
Speaker 1: Ask me the question and I'll help you renavigate the question,
Speaker 1: retool it. For the cards, you're going to shuffle them,
Speaker 1: lay them out, pick three, and then we'll go over
Speaker 1: them together. When you want to go first, you go first. Okay.
Speaker 1: We already have a car.
Speaker 2: Am I shuffling them?
Speaker 1: You're shuffling them?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm shuffling and should I sort of ask
Speaker 2: my questions? You should ask your question out loud, okay,
Speaker 2: to the cards and the astrol guides and house. I
Speaker 2: want to know how do I release fixations and negative
Speaker 2: thoughts that aren't serving me anymore?
Speaker 1: I want to move.
Speaker 2: Forward in a genuine, real way without fixation on the
Speaker 2: past and ways in which I've been treated unfairly, and
Speaker 2: move forward with compassion for myself instead of what is happening.
Speaker 1: Okay, So keep thinking and when you're ready, lay the
Speaker 1: cards out, and then you'll pick three. We'll think of
Speaker 1: the answer. You've had these since you were seven. That's
Speaker 1: really beautiful. I'm ready and I'm gonna lay them out
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do like this. Yeah, I'm what I'm doing, readers,
Speaker 1: is I'm spreading the cards out like this, and now
Speaker 1: I'm to pick three that are calling out to me. Yep,
Speaker 1: take your time, Taja, Okay, take your time. By the way,
Speaker 1: we saw the trailer for a Color Purple, the movie
Speaker 1: musical in uh during the Barbie movie yesterday. That looks good.
Speaker 2: Okay, I pick this one's calling out to me because
Speaker 2: it almost fell off the table. So there's one. This
Speaker 2: one's making itself known to me. And I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: the final card that I would like to pick out
Speaker 2: is and I'm gonna sort of go left with myself
Speaker 2: here it's this one because it was on top.
Speaker 1: Okay, those are my three cards. Okay, So these cards
Speaker 1: are basically your guides. So there we'll go over the
Speaker 1: theme of each card and then we'll try and find
Speaker 1: a little narrative for you between the three. It's a
Speaker 1: little storytelling pleasure. Can be sure you show to the camera. Yeah, okay, pleasure,
Speaker 1: Divine Goddess, fulfillment, abundance, satisfaction, contentment. The Divine Goddess smiles
Speaker 1: upon you, urging you to step into her luscious and
Speaker 1: beautiful garden and drink from her well of vitality and joy. Summer, relax,
Speaker 1: have fun, and allow the good times to roll. Life
Speaker 1: is to be enjoyed, not endured, whether it's a fun
Speaker 1: day at the beach or arousing sexual romp with your lover.
Speaker 1: The Divine Goddess reminds you that there's nothing holy, superior,
Speaker 1: or righteous in resisting pleasure or hiding your beauty. She
Speaker 1: stepped into your life to remedy the sad fact that
Speaker 1: you're not taking joy in much of anything of late,
Speaker 1: and have lost touch with some of your inner beauty.
Speaker 1: Life has become black and white in shades of gray,
Speaker 1: and you're missing color. She advises you not to postpone
Speaker 1: your wards until you're in heaven. Instead, she encourages you
Speaker 1: to enjoy a little heaven on earth. Indulge your soul
Speaker 1: and some delicious food, good friends, great music, and playful fun.
Speaker 1: Use her sparkle to inspire you to embellish your environment
Speaker 1: redecorate whatever will make you happy. This is a harvest
Speaker 1: for you. It's a time of abundance and flow. It's
Speaker 1: time for you to share your beauty with others and
Speaker 1: be generous. Don't fret about over indulging or getting carried away.
Speaker 1: Get used to the beautiful life and consider it your
Speaker 1: birthright to dance in the divine Goddess's garden. Her question
Speaker 1: to you is how good can you stand it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What about? I think? I mean it? Need to order
Speaker 1: a glass dildo. How we get there? Let's finish the
Speaker 1: cards before we get Yeah, yeakay, let's get the narrative, honey, compromise,
Speaker 1: Master teacher, Master teacher, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so I have so far pleasure and master teacher, compromise.
Speaker 1: Your master teachers, reminding you that nothing is entirely good
Speaker 1: or bad, even people, and that every person has their
Speaker 1: own version of reality, which may not necessarily agree with yours.
Speaker 1: Instead of feeling wronged by those who refuse to submit
Speaker 1: to your point of view, give up your righteous and
Speaker 1: rigid demands and broaden your perspective to include the interests
Speaker 1: of those you struggle with. Now mentally, move toward the
Speaker 1: center and open your mind. Although it's easy to feel
Speaker 1: indignant and defensive as you've dealt with a current impasse,
Speaker 1: the truth is no one is trying to harm you
Speaker 1: right now. Instead, your detractors are simply supporting their own
Speaker 1: interest and priorities which are different than yours. Rather than
Speaker 1: reacting emotionally to their resistance, strive to understand and work
Speaker 1: to be fair. Your master Teacher's message for you except
Speaker 1: that your interests are no more or no less important
Speaker 1: than those of the people around you. The only way
Speaker 1: for you to progress to hire ground is to compromise. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: That is interesting. Celebration Celebration Joy Guide which, by the way,
Speaker 1: these are really positive cards. Positive. There's death in there,
Speaker 1: there's you know, suffering like that. You got an incredibly
Speaker 1: positive reading. So the cards are giving hock girl summer
Speaker 1: and you you are having for the most part, I
Speaker 1: would say, a joyful time, even though there are moments
Speaker 1: of you know, hardship. Yeah, I'm just sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: mean final card. You're entering a period of great expansion.
Speaker 1: Your joy guides are at hand, ushering you into a
Speaker 1: season of abundance, celebration, and hospitality. You're loved and accepted
Speaker 1: and trusted by those around you. This is a time
Speaker 1: when life gives back. You may become engaged, get married,
Speaker 1: get a promotion, land a deal, or just get a
Speaker 1: long waited lucky break, whatever you desire, your joy guides
Speaker 1: are urging you to prepare for because it's realize that
Speaker 1: his life's tides turn your way. The soon to become
Speaker 1: realized positive flow of events isn't just a fluke or
Speaker 1: an accident, or the luck of the draw, whether it's
Speaker 1: the natural outcome of your unwavering efforts, your commitment to
Speaker 1: your dreams and goals, your joy guide's message plan for
Speaker 1: the party you're going to soon have a reason to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love my right. I know, yes,
Speaker 1: this all feels very right to me. So how how
Speaker 1: good can you stand it? How good can you? How
Speaker 1: good can you stand it? WHOA, that's like really good?
Speaker 1: That's a real culture? Number eight? How good can you
Speaker 1: stand it? So? I think, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear the reading. I don't know if we it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like anyone's confused here. I would say
Speaker 1: that for you, the one thing it's seems like it's
Speaker 1: asking the compromise is probably going to be the hardest part.
Speaker 1: But it seems like if you can reach that within yourself,
Speaker 1: you're in such a period of jewel that that is
Speaker 1: the blockage for you. And it feels like when you
Speaker 1: finally can make that piece, you're already in this really
Speaker 1: brilliant new era. It's a compromise of within this self
Speaker 1: and yeah, because only I can make the decision. But
Speaker 1: this is all you. You know, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a battle between you and your.
Speaker 2: Self, right There's nothing in those cards that's like, no
Speaker 2: one's holding you back.
Speaker 1: These cards aren't about anybody else, and all they do
Speaker 1: is read your energy, so it's only telling you what
Speaker 1: you already know, and what you know is that this
Speaker 1: is hard for you right now. But pleasure, but divine godess.
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was talking about you know, you,
Speaker 1: eat good food, be with friends, dance alow.
Speaker 2: We did all that and we've been doing that and
Speaker 2: also I'm about to have a very fun time and
Speaker 2: this is great.
Speaker 1: Good reading, good good reading.
Speaker 2: And now, oh, I don't know, I feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like this might be totally different.
Speaker 1: I get the darker one. That's okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I want to see death. But if you do get death,
Speaker 1: death is about the ending of something, and that's a
Speaker 1: positive too. In many ways, for many people, the end
Speaker 1: is the best way to start something new. Yes, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you have to end to begin. That's true. That's a
Speaker 1: real culture. It's actually real. It's real culture. Number seventy five,
Speaker 1: You have to did you do your question? Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I stretched. I'll do the question, and then
Speaker 1: I'll do the question and shuffle for a bite. Put
Speaker 1: your energy on the cards. My question is what are
Speaker 1: the means by which I can connect to all the
Speaker 1: parts of myself? I feel like I feel like my
Speaker 1: struggle lately has been sort of a disparate evaluation of
Speaker 1: like me and I feel very fragmented. And how do
Speaker 1: I make it all whole again? You know? And how
Speaker 1: how do I do that? Yeah? Okay, that's a great question. Great,
Speaker 1: Oh my spread girl, that's okay. That's what it meant
Speaker 1: to be. It's what it's meant to be. Okay, it
Speaker 1: was meant to be cluttered. Okay, okay, what's calling out
Speaker 1: to me? Only you can answer.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I was gonna say her.
Speaker 1: That's correct. That's the one good card that's all. This one.
Speaker 1: That one's a baby, Pick it out, put it on
Speaker 1: the table. Last one we go. Number three, don't miss,
Speaker 1: don't miss. This is the big decision, this one. Three
Speaker 1: cards on the table, three cards laid before me. First
Speaker 1: one discontent, discontent, muses, muses, muses. I'm my muses are
Speaker 1: a little you know, you know, every reading has their
Speaker 1: own list is a dark card. There are ghosts and phantoms,
Speaker 1: and I don't like that. Okay, but I actually think
Speaker 1: this this card has a lot to teach. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So are we listening already? Okay? Sooner or later in
Speaker 1: our evolutionary process, each of us begins to realize that
Speaker 1: it's not the having that fulfills our souls, but it's
Speaker 1: the act of creating that brings us satisfaction, contentment. And
Speaker 1: what we've created, no matter how grand, inevitably subsides and
Speaker 1: our creative juices get stagnant, long to flow. That's why
Speaker 1: the once ideal partner ceases to mesmerize, the perfect job
Speaker 1: eventually becomes mundane, and the great adventure becomes tedious. Although
Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said for enjoying what we
Speaker 1: have now, we must nevertheless respect the fact that our
Speaker 1: basic nature's creative beings is to create. Without the process,
Speaker 1: we can't be fully content, at least not for long.
Speaker 1: Your muses are present, and they're calling on you now
Speaker 1: to embrace your creative discontent and undertake new project. Their
Speaker 1: message to you is see your frustration as a longing
Speaker 1: to learn more, expand more, dare more, and create more.
Speaker 1: I gotta get a glass, dildo, I gotta a glass.
Speaker 1: It's true. I know it's so true. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's why. No, no, no, no, no, okay. Second card to
Speaker 1: see see this is actually gorgeous to see Cardian angels. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know this card has lots of tea. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is I think this is a teaching card as well.
Speaker 1: This is actually one of my favorite cards. I'm at
Speaker 1: a teaching hospital and it's too funny. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're doing to readings and one person gets one,
Speaker 1: I was gonna get the dark one. I love it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let let's keep going. Your guardian angels are present,
Speaker 1: alerting you to the fact that all isn't as it appears.
Speaker 1: Pay close attention to what's going on around you and
Speaker 1: within you. You'll notice that vibes are in the air.
Speaker 1: You'll now you'll notice your guardian angels remind you that
Speaker 1: your own treachery and deceit are subtle and difficult to see.
Speaker 1: After all, no one wants to believe they can or
Speaker 1: someone might hurt them. Sometimes it's a deliberate attempt, other
Speaker 1: times it's an act of self protection at your own expense.
Speaker 1: Deceit and manipulation need not be maliciously intended to cur
Speaker 1: or be damaging. Often it's just the result of thoughtlessness
Speaker 1: or fear. Your guardian angels urge you to trust your
Speaker 1: vibes completely when it comes to your suspicions of yourself
Speaker 1: and others. Please equally scrutinize your own own deceptions. Either
Speaker 1: case leads to dead ends and disappointing outcomes. Ask your
Speaker 1: angel guides to protect you from your own deceits. Have
Speaker 1: the courage and integrity to be honest with yourself. Your
Speaker 1: guardian angel's message right now is we will watch over you. Now.
Speaker 1: Are they my muses to your guardian angels? My guardian angels, no,
Speaker 1: you got you got muses and guardians are saying create,
Speaker 1: create creates. Well, then my guardian angels are saying, don't
Speaker 1: trust the muses. No, No, that's not what they're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll get to the narrative. We'll get
Speaker 1: to the narrative even got to how can you make
Speaker 1: a narrative? Balance? Wow? Period? And now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it makes sense. Period? And now what's to say?
Speaker 1: Divine teachers, divine teachers, we both have teachers in ours.
Speaker 1: You are good students, I find no, but still I
Speaker 1: am very distractive. You're back, but I was trying to
Speaker 1: be nice. And you're in the delicate process of learning
Speaker 1: how to properly balance the flow of give and take
Speaker 1: in your personal relationships, and it's time to evaluate. Are
Speaker 1: you giving too much, leaving you resentful and angry, or
Speaker 1: you withholding when you could give more, leaving you feeling
Speaker 1: guilty and defensive. Your divine teachers can help you learn
Speaker 1: how to better align your relationships so that you neither
Speaker 1: give nor take too much as a means of controlling others.
Speaker 1: They counsel you to be honest about your motivations when
Speaker 1: dealing with others. You know in your heart of hearts
Speaker 1: what drives you. Do you create dependency in and control,
Speaker 1: or do you withhold for fear that you might be
Speaker 1: taken advantage of keeping people guessing. Your divine teachers are
Speaker 1: on hand to help you answer these questions. They lovingly
Speaker 1: assure you that relationships are the most difficult of all
Speaker 1: spiritual classrooms, and the lessons of proper give and take
Speaker 1: are the most difficult skills to learn. Have compassion for
Speaker 1: yourself as you seek balance. Ask your divine teachers to
Speaker 1: help you become more aware of how you give and
Speaker 1: receive in all relationships, not just the romantic kind. There
Speaker 1: are message to you. There's no difference between giving and receiving.
Speaker 1: Love great, I love it. I am creating my own
Speaker 1: suspicion in the deceit by an imbalance of give and take,
Speaker 1: and that is all fueled by a discontent with in
Speaker 1: your creative life, present situation in creative life, and in
Speaker 1: stagnant endeavors. What do you see here? What do you see? Sorry?
Speaker 1: I want to know. Well, I do think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I find that when I do these there is always
Speaker 1: this and you can create yourself so whatever, But there
Speaker 1: is always a little narrative between first, second, and third.
Speaker 1: And you know you do choose as it is, but
Speaker 1: I do think that, Like for me, the first one
Speaker 1: is it's saying, this is a core issue that it's
Speaker 1: going on that is causing this fragmentation. It seems like
Speaker 1: that is what the answer is for that. And then
Speaker 1: it's almost giving you these sort of backup reasons of
Speaker 1: why that's happening, and it's this deceit is I find
Speaker 1: it's always self deceit when these cards are being used,
Speaker 1: and it's always almost usually when people get the card,
Speaker 1: they know immediately what it is that they're saying to
Speaker 1: themselves or or whatever self deceit they have. And then
Speaker 1: to get the balance of you know, relationships and stuff
Speaker 1: is sort of interesting because then that relates to the
Speaker 1: deceit too. It's sort of saying, like these relationships, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm having uh da da da, I'm not seeing myself
Speaker 1: clearly in these and it's all a larger sign of
Speaker 1: creative mm hmm. You have to listen to yourself, you
Speaker 1: have to trust your insights. Thank you. Uh no, but
Speaker 1: I thought that was really good reading. Well, do you
Speaker 1: feel like you got any clarity a little bit? A
Speaker 1: little bit, yes, But I think I'm like working myself
Speaker 1: out of I'm getting to the last one, which is
Speaker 1: the balance. I'm like, I'm inching closer towards this, yes,
Speaker 1: to get out of this this yes, which no problem.
Speaker 1: I love it well. And this is kind of more
Speaker 1: closer to the present. It's the third card, whereas this
Speaker 1: is past order. What was your third card? Celebration celebration. Yes,
Speaker 1: we'll be celebrating. We'll be celebrating and balancing, and we
Speaker 1: are celebrating, and we are celebrating.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel very hopeful about the future. I
Speaker 2: think that like it's the halfway well it's not the
Speaker 2: halfway point of the year, but sometimes it feels like
Speaker 2: at least like end of summer, although like sort of
Speaker 2: my summer is just starting, and then through fall. In
Speaker 2: the winter is always when I feel like things are
Speaker 2: the most difficult, and then they get so much better
Speaker 2: for some reason, like narratively, like my years always get
Speaker 2: better at the end of them. Maybe it's because I
Speaker 2: have like a routine thing that I do every year,
Speaker 2: but it's hard now when there's like so much less
Speaker 2: routine than there's ever been because we're all not working
Speaker 2: and stuff. But maybe this like time of being having
Speaker 2: like more solitariness and more like less filling up is
Speaker 2: an opportunity to achieve this balance card, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: M M who does know? Who does know? I'm telling
Speaker 1: you who can say? I do think that. I always
Speaker 1: think of September as a new beginning, just because school starts,
Speaker 1: and for so long you were kind of like in
Speaker 1: that mode, and so I always think of like, I
Speaker 1: like the back half of the year, like I like
Speaker 1: later summer into fall into winter, like that's where I
Speaker 1: read my engine. Really, you know what.
Speaker 2: I set up that loud the other day for the
Speaker 2: first time, and I felt very like like almost like, actually.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. And I don't think,
Speaker 1: so honey, this is amazing segue. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: this is this is really good a segment where we
Speaker 1: take one minute to go off on something in culture
Speaker 1: that's really grinding our gears. Matt Rogers is struck. I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to do this. I believe it. This is
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. I don't think so Honey's time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Summer. Oh and it's fine
Speaker 1: to say it, Okay, it's too fucking hot. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be out in the sun. That's that baking hot,
Speaker 1: especially not during global boiling, which we're in. It's not
Speaker 1: global warming anymore, honey, it's global boiling. The whales are
Speaker 1: beaching themselves. They can't take it. I saw a clip
Speaker 1: today and Otter was trying to steal a surfboard. But
Speaker 1: you're also going crazy in the water. Why because it's
Speaker 1: heating up. I'll tell you what else is heating up
Speaker 1: me too much? I want to be inside in the
Speaker 1: air conditioning. I don't think, so honey, if you have
Speaker 1: air conditioning. In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: I went on on a date with a guy. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't have air conditioning. I said, that might be
Speaker 1: a deal breaker right there, because you want to know why.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so, honey. Summer and one of the
Speaker 1: things you need, and they're actually saying it's no longer
Speaker 1: a luxury, it's a necessity.
Speaker 2: It's air conditioning. So I don't think, so honey, summer.
Speaker 2: I do think, so honey. The fall, I do think,
Speaker 2: so honey. The winter catch me then, and I do
Speaker 2: think so honey the spring. Otherwise I'm uncomfortable. The humidity,
Speaker 2: the dryness. Both of you I don't.
Speaker 1: Think so, honey, that's one minute. I don't like summer.
Speaker 1: You do, No, I don't, Okay, I don't. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I was. I'm sorry. Dancing and more yourself. I don't
Speaker 1: think my vibe vibes are in the air.
Speaker 2: When your card said that there were vibes in the air,
Speaker 2: I really felt that.
Speaker 1: And it's not a live vibes are in the air always.
Speaker 1: You know what I like to do with my girls
Speaker 1: during the summer vie happy hour I will say right
Speaker 1: now in this the day we're recording this this week
Speaker 1: is spectacular weather in New York City.
Speaker 2: We're going out for happy hour after this, of course.
Speaker 1: Of cork of courks, Yeah, corks, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know the birth of the of corks was the
Speaker 2: very first day that we met house wo. It was
Speaker 2: in la I don't think, Sony, when you iconically did
Speaker 2: your I don't think so money on Jennifer Garner.
Speaker 1: Gays who stand Jennifer Gardner?
Speaker 2: Oh it was gays? Who's I don't think so many gays?
Speaker 2: Who's the Jennifer Gardner?
Speaker 1: And I think my favorite bit was that is your
Speaker 1: favorite dessert merangue? Oh yeah, that was a good house.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oho, she's making a comeback. You'd be careful.
Speaker 1: That was years ago. That was years ago. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that now. All right, this is Bellen Yang's I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. The art world, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get a couple of paintings from any apartment. And why
Speaker 1: is it the most expensive thing ever created? Why is
Speaker 1: it so expensive? I believe in compensating artists. I believe
Speaker 1: in paying for a piece of art. I will pay
Speaker 1: on an appropriate amount of money. But some of these
Speaker 1: price points are actually psycho and I'm not paying fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a little jade horse, Mama. Jade is
Speaker 1: what those things that my sister and I have said
Speaker 1: this all the time, my sister especially, she goes jade
Speaker 1: is one of those gemstones that really only Asian people
Speaker 1: care about. And so therefore you have to price it
Speaker 1: in a way that's not like so exclusive, like make
Speaker 1: it so because the market's already small, it's already gonna
Speaker 1: be something where like I don't want to pay that
Speaker 1: much money for it. These prices would make you you
Speaker 1: guys know me, You guys know that I kind of
Speaker 1: dish out cash for things unreasonable in an unamasonable way.
Speaker 1: I pay some of these paintings. I go not in
Speaker 1: a million years. And that's one minute. Jade did.
Speaker 2: Didn't Gwyneth Paltrow say you got to put a jade
Speaker 2: egg up your vagina?
Speaker 1: Did she ruin it? Did she run jade for Asians?
Speaker 1: I think she did, because what she was doing was
Speaker 1: she was trying to stimulate the I think thee to
Speaker 1: help relubricate. Right, Well, then the ja. Well then this
Speaker 1: is the thing, like I'm never like jade is ours,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And now I can't even
Speaker 1: get jade off the fucking streets. So what is this.
Speaker 2: You're like looking to populate your new apartment.
Speaker 1: I just have some walls that I want to, like,
Speaker 1: have some big walls. Let's just say I just wanted big,
Speaker 1: big walls. I just sugar. Sugar wall taste like cream.
Speaker 1: Taste like cream.
Speaker 2: I heard that, I hope, So I hope your walls
Speaker 2: are so big.
Speaker 1: Pure man makes like a nice cream for your walls. Really,
Speaker 1: and I have gotten compliment, I did. I've had the coffee,
Speaker 1: not the coff I've used the butt bomb. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: called the stay Ready Cream. This is not sponsored, by
Speaker 1: the way, but ready but could be. I've done this
Speaker 1: stay Ready cream and people are like, that's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is nice.
Speaker 2: I liked the butt bomb a lot. Yeah, all Pure
Speaker 2: Men's products.
Speaker 1: Pure Man is really really doing it. I think that
Speaker 1: they found a market, they found a niche and an
Speaker 1: audience with money, and they made a good product. Very smart.
Speaker 1: They like they really thought about They were like, of
Speaker 1: course these people want things to make that area fresh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we get self conscious about all of it. So like,
Speaker 1: let let's make you help a girl out. Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: And that's like the art world. The art world could
Speaker 1: really take a page from here. For mess the art world.
Speaker 1: I just want to say so many wonderful people have
Speaker 1: reached down said I'm a dealer, I can help you out.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. But I just want to say that
Speaker 1: the system itself seems a little broken. They're wheelers and dealers.
Speaker 1: They're wheelers and dealers. Well they made that die that
Speaker 1: film about it. Oh yeah, was that the one with
Speaker 1: Jake Jill and Hall. Yeah. Yeah, And they're all killers.
Speaker 1: They're killers, and that scares me. I have to trust
Speaker 1: the deceit. The vibes are in the air. That was
Speaker 1: about the art world, that was about well you never
Speaker 1: told you if you would have told me about the
Speaker 1: art well before the reading car specific about it. The
Speaker 1: cards are yelling at you to not get finaggled by
Speaker 1: the art world. Honey. These people on first DIBs are
Speaker 1: selling David Hockney prints posters of things for like thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars.
Speaker 2: I go not in a million years poster poster. If
Speaker 2: I knew who David Hockney was, I would be appalled.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you would love him, you would love him
Speaker 1: well Wikipedia.
Speaker 4: After this, yeah, away David and lovely stan Smith being
Speaker 4: like our hashman, we have to say, we have to
Speaker 4: say this real quick.
Speaker 1: We went to see here lies love Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was it was amazing. We had such a great time.
Speaker 1: But Matt didn't know. The Marcus didn't know, so he
Speaker 1: was cheering. When they want the election, mel Marcus was
Speaker 1: I thought, I actually thought she was a pop star.
Speaker 1: So so the Marcus is when the election and then
Speaker 1: Matt's like, and then I give I give him a
Speaker 1: look like no. I found out she was a dictator,
Speaker 1: and it really bummed him out. I know, but she's
Speaker 1: you know, she's just got nice clothes. So it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's so hard when these women have nice clothes. It's hard.
Speaker 1: You want to support women, even when they're dictators. I
Speaker 1: find as a as a gay man, I want to
Speaker 1: see women. Vita Big was a big fan until I out.
Speaker 1: You know, she was a maleficent maleficent big Charsila Ursula
Speaker 1: big fan. Because they look they look interesting, they look interesting,
Speaker 1: they're funny, they're funny. This is your I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey house. Are you ready? Okay? All right? This
Speaker 1: is Patrick Rodgers. I don't think sohney. As time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Going to a restaurant with
Speaker 1: more than four people, Oh, first of all, I hate
Speaker 1: to see the look of a waiter look like, oh god,
Speaker 1: am I gonna have to deal with this all night.
Speaker 1: Ten of your best gay friends and you all order
Speaker 1: espresso Martini's. Well, guess what, y'all, it's gonna take us
Speaker 1: forty five minutes to get a beverage here. It is
Speaker 1: so annoying. I don't care about split Wise, I don't
Speaker 1: care about Venmo. What I care about is I can't
Speaker 1: hear anything anyone is saying. At a restaurant where there's
Speaker 1: ten people around the table, it can't you can't get
Speaker 1: a drink, you can't get your food on time, you
Speaker 1: can't hear anyone. I'm like, huh, what, I aren't even
Speaker 1: hearing problems? Huh. Restaurants are supposed to be intimate dining
Speaker 1: fifty experiences, and when you're with so many people, you
Speaker 1: do not get that you're wasting the experience. Even five
Speaker 1: is too many because you're not connecting. You're not saying, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you fie? How is your week? And so
Speaker 1: that's why if you see me at the restaurant, it
Speaker 1: will be for or less trust that whatever happened to hi,
Speaker 1: how are you trust?
Speaker 2: Customer service? Customer service, here's what I'd say. I've been
Speaker 2: to dinner with more than four people. I've been to
Speaker 2: dinner with less.
Speaker 1: I always enjoy it with less. I agree, I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought about this.
Speaker 2: And also that moment when the waiter comes over, it
Speaker 2: se'es a bunch of gays and you understand.
Speaker 1: And it's not even like they know the gays tip
Speaker 1: well and stuff like that. It's like, can I do
Speaker 1: a dirty martini. Can I do it on the rocks?
Speaker 1: Can I get three olive us with blue cheese? But
Speaker 1: that's thirteen people people, And so then he has to
Speaker 1: get all those drinks out at the same time. They
Speaker 1: have two bartenders behind there, So then the two bartenders
Speaker 1: have to make thirteen drinks come out at once for
Speaker 1: your table when there's forty other tables. It these pure
Speaker 1: mathematical nightmare.
Speaker 2: I do the same thing that you're doing right now,
Speaker 2: which is I also have been restaurant industry in my past,
Speaker 2: and I get stressed out when I know something is annoying,
Speaker 2: like for example, splitting checks.
Speaker 1: I always know what's annoying.
Speaker 2: I always know what's annoying when someone orders like that thing,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I always know what's annoying.
Speaker 2: People are like just bringing out whenever it's ready to
Speaker 2: come out. That's like literally not how it works, right,
Speaker 2: So I understand.
Speaker 1: And it's it's manageable. With four or less you will
Speaker 1: have a great experience. So true. I think dining, I
Speaker 1: love it with two. I find I connect really I
Speaker 1: love to have a sensuous meal with someone and enjoy
Speaker 1: the conversation. And that could be three people and that
Speaker 1: could be four, but it should be an intimate experience. Agreed. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great date night, it's a great
Speaker 1: connecting with close friends. It should not be your birthday
Speaker 1: of twenty No, sorry, because guess what, all twenty people
Speaker 1: are going to have a complicated order because we're all
Speaker 1: the same. Yes, instead go to care go see go seep. No,
Speaker 1: and that's the podcast because I'm not having that. The
Speaker 1: energy suddenly became We've been here for two hours, and
Speaker 1: that's how you know that true friends have been talking.
Speaker 1: We had our guides.
Speaker 2: Tell us what was up. We spoke about Nicole's AMC.
Speaker 2: We set a clear message about that. We talked about
Speaker 2: the errors, talked about renaissance, We prognosticated. We pointed lords
Speaker 2: in a direction true North. Like Uber Hot, we basically
Speaker 2: previewed Uba Hot taste tests. Yes, we introduced the readers
Speaker 2: to house, which was a long, huge movement, and we
Speaker 2: connected with each other like no one could at a
Speaker 2: dinner with more than the people in this.
Speaker 1: Room, period.
Speaker 2: And that includes that includes Donnie. That includes by heat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Donnie's looking at his watch in a way that
Speaker 2: makes me feel like we are don got to go
Speaker 2: about to go, and so how are we house?
Speaker 1: Thank you for making yours. Gosh, thanks for having me, Ladies,
Speaker 1: ladies hey, and ladies at home. We love yet episode
Speaker 1: with song. This is one of the best. My reputationous
Speaker 1: and have been more so, he was saying me for me.
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Speaker 1: That's so fine. Bye bye,