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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's ready to get hurt

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Speaker 1: by the Jets again. That's true money nail and it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansince. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with just one hero, and it's

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Speaker 1: Greg Rose. At all. We're gonna Mike and mad dog

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Speaker 1: this baby, Greggy. I don't know if phil is the

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Speaker 1: right word. I have been doing a few push ups lately,

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Speaker 1: so but I'm not sure I quite quite filled the screen.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't been hurt by the Jets at all.

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Speaker 1: I've pretty much enjoyed the Jets experience, you know, throughout

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I know you have, Greg. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like it is funny because you are a respected football

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Speaker 1: pundit and um, you're very good at your job. But

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Speaker 1: it's so easy to see, like when something bad happens

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Speaker 1: to the Jets, a little gleam in your eye you

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Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about it. Well, part part of it,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I shared this with West two is

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Speaker 1: I do want just teams that are watchable, and and

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Speaker 1: that was one reason he couldn't wrap his arms around

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Speaker 1: the Jets. It's just been a tough watch, Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them. We're doing some winners and losers later.

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's gonna change my Jets experience. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to be a Jets face. But if we'll

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Speaker 1: make them watchable, I like. I like what I see

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Speaker 1: out of the kid. That's gonna make them a much

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Speaker 1: better Sunday experience. The boy who will lead them, I hope. Um,

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Speaker 1: but you're right about West, and I couldn't blame less.

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Speaker 1: But there is a difference, that's all. It's fine. It's

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Speaker 1: just like with the Giants. It's you are at your heart,

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Speaker 1: even though you've moved across the country. UM, still a

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Speaker 1: New England guy in some ways. And you don't like

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Speaker 1: the New York teams. And that's okay. I think that

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Speaker 1: keep keeping that part of your fan hard alive. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's anything unhealthy about it, and I don't

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Speaker 1: take offense to it. I really don't. Well, I would

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Speaker 1: hope not. You threw like a three day celebration on

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Speaker 1: the podcast when the Patriots last of the Titans a

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Speaker 1: except like a celebration the January game where the Jets

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Speaker 1: would come to Gillette to play the Pats. We wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even buy tickets, but we would go and tailgate in

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Speaker 1: the January whether just to watch the Jet fans crying

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Speaker 1: when they left Gillette. It's well, you picked the wrong one.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why people hate New England sports fans. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say there were There weren't any Jets playoff

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Speaker 1: games where they came in and and lost, but there

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Speaker 1: was a great one where they came in and took

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Speaker 1: care of the Patriots. So so that would have been

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Speaker 1: a bad one. Well that was before Eric I ever

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Speaker 1: watched a football game. It was two thousand eleven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, listen, Mark's not here. As you've already noticed

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Speaker 1: Mark dealing with some unfortunate health issues, and remember he

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Speaker 1: had the clotting issue, the blood clots that popped up

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Speaker 1: again this weekend. He's doing okay, but he needed to

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Speaker 1: get it taken care of and the doctors basically said

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Speaker 1: chill out for a day or two. So we hope

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Speaker 1: to have Mark back later in the week. But don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Mark's okay, but he's not with us for today's show.

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Speaker 1: And by the way to do good vibes though sending

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Speaker 1: good vibe It's like the safe Ferrists put it on

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Speaker 1: the water tower. Save Settler. Um. I hope he's back

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Speaker 1: Wednesday because Wednesday is wait for it, the annual around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Extravaganza. Yes, we do it every year

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Speaker 1: end of August because you not should not be drafting

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Speaker 1: shame on you if you do, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: all sorts. I don't know, Greg, do you want to

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Speaker 1: real time? Or do we want to tease it right now?

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Speaker 1: It's up to you. You let it. Well, we get

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Speaker 1: the big Fish every year. I think that's that's gonna

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Speaker 1: good Yes, the big Fish, of course. Evan Silva, late

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Speaker 1: of Rhodo World, where he watched Greg and West building

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Speaker 1: Ev and Chris and I were. I'm just trying not

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Speaker 1: You left the brick by brick place for pro football talk.

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Speaker 1: And then Silva built it higher, turned it into one thousand,

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Speaker 1: That I think that's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: And then they changed the name this year to NBC

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Speaker 1: Sports Edge. Great, great job. Well, I do not recognize that.

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Today's show is a good one. We are

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Speaker 1: going to have a special guest, the Great Arif Hasan,

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Speaker 1: who covers the vikings for the athletic and is plugged

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Speaker 1: in on all things NFL related. He's gonna sit in

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Speaker 1: when we discuss our winners and losers of training camp,

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Speaker 1: which ends the this week. Is this the official end

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Speaker 1: of training camp for NFL teams? Yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 1: slash preseason week two, but before that, some news starts radio.

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Speaker 1: So in this scenario, I guess I'm Francessa, but you're

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Speaker 1: not quite a dog. I mean, I'm more mad Dog

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, you guys grew up on it.

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Speaker 1: the news, starting with a very positive update on the

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz front for the Indianapolis Colts. Uh. The veteran

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Speaker 1: puts a lot into this week's game, you know, because

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Speaker 1: there's no fourth week of the preseason, and because they've

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Speaker 1: now tied the all time record with the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers nine straight preseason wins, one of the most storied

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Speaker 1: records in sports. You know, this is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: This is this is exactly what the ENDFL was looking

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Speaker 1: for in the preseason, a lot of national attention, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we're we're able to give it absolutely And

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Speaker 1: then you know, that's a perfect segue. That's what's happening

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Speaker 1: in the news. To bring on our guest today because

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Speaker 1: on his Twitter profile it's his name afsan Comma preseason enthusiast,

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Speaker 1: So let's welcome him on the show. First of all,

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Speaker 1: what's up, a reef? Welcome? Hey, what's going on around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast? You have to be humming over this

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Raven Street process. Yeah, I mean, you love to

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Speaker 1: see it happen. Uh. It kind of reminds me of

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Speaker 1: Yukon women's basketball. That streak um just I honestly, I'm

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Speaker 1: tearing up a little bit just thinking about the day

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Speaker 1: that the titan and fall. You know, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough. But in order for the streak to have meaning,

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Speaker 1: it has to end at some point of the wise,

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Speaker 1: you know historically what you know, what does it mean? Right?

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Speaker 1: True that we could get a lot of buzz though

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Speaker 1: throughout the whole season. If they can get to twenty,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice round number the whole year, build up

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Speaker 1: until next and there I just checked their playing there.

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Speaker 1: You know, local rivals, the Washington football team and some

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Speaker 1: teams I would say even maybe most teams this preseason

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Speaker 1: not taking it too seriously. You know, one of the

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Speaker 1: teams that do put out their starters for a nice

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Speaker 1: chunk of time might have Ryan Fitzpatrick playing that whole

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Speaker 1: first half. There is nothing that Ron Rivera would love

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Speaker 1: to do more than to take down his UH rivals

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Speaker 1: that matters. Yeah. Well, you say that the streak has

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Speaker 1: to end for to truly matter, and I like that

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Speaker 1: from like a philosophical standpoint, But then you think about

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Speaker 1: head coaches in the NFL and the egos on these guys, um,

463
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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. The way you look at this is, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a reflection on the organization and the coaching and

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Speaker 1: the attention to detail and why everything matters. It's really

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Speaker 1: the shine is on the coach more than the players.

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Speaker 1: So you think that Harbor wants to maybe do this

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Speaker 1: until he retires. I mean this could go next level

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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to see what happens. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: for sure, And I mean it makes the most sense

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Speaker 1: in the world that the person that holds this streak

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Speaker 1: is also a former special teams coordinator, right, who best

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Speaker 1: to connect with the depth players that you know populate

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Um? Alright, so a reef, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us, and we're nice talking to you. All right,

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Speaker 1: there goes No, we want to talk some training camp

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Speaker 1: slash preseason winners and losers, and how about this. You're

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Speaker 1: our guests or if do you want? You can go

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Speaker 1: any direction you want. We know you cover the vikings

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Speaker 1: beautifully for the athletic If you want to start with them,

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Speaker 1: you can do that. If you want to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: What is something that's kind of caught your eye as

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Speaker 1: training camp kind of wraps up here? In August. Sure, Well,

484
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Speaker 1: the stuff that's like kind of interesting to me to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings probably just doesn't like matter leaguewide. So I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about some of the stuff we're in the league

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Speaker 1: that is catching my eye. I think the first round

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman um have had a really rough go of

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Speaker 1: it this preseason, right Obviously. I mean there's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of discussion about Pina Swell, right, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's all the reasons in the world that it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make sense for him to you know, come out of

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Speaker 1: the gate with with you know, all the cylinders running,

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Speaker 1: but you know, right tackle, he is having a lot

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Speaker 1: of trouble. There's spent a years since he's played you

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Speaker 1: know football, but you know, neither Elijah Bara Tuck or

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Speaker 1: Christian Deary saw have seen the field yet, right, So

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Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty big concern um. I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: the best one so far has been Alex Leatherwood, which

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Speaker 1: is funny kind of considering the draft conversations with him

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders pick of him and then Slater he's

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Speaker 1: got like some back issues or something, but he he

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Speaker 1: didn't participate in Week two. Uh, and so it's just

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Speaker 1: like maybe we're spoiled, right because last year's first round

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, we're fantastic even in the preseason, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we got a bunch of Mickey back to

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Speaker 1: the Firember correctly in the preseason, but you know, we

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Speaker 1: saw a bunch of really great Christian works. Isn't nicky

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Speaker 1: but maybe it is now you We don't know. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Butki sounds cooler, though. I gotta we got

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Speaker 1: started doing that. Un tell him correctly, check on that now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean last year, I mean they were

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Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills was doing well in the preseason, took a

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Speaker 1: little bit of time to get going in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: but had a really strong going. It's really only Andrew Thomas,

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Speaker 1: right that we were worried about early on. Um, So

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Speaker 1: it's just first round offensive lineman haven't indicated that they're

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Speaker 1: worthy investment yet. Maybe maybe all of them will be,

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Speaker 1: maybe none of them will be. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what preseason takes are for worried

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Speaker 1: about first round offensive lineman. So that stood that. But

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Speaker 1: those are some of the most important rookies on any teams,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, they were all drafted with the ideas like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that problem solved, Like, don't need Charles Leno anymore. You

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Speaker 1: know you didn't Davin Jenkins, but you know he's out.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him a lot last week. We haven't

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Speaker 1: talked about Penay Seul on this show. And uh, you

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Speaker 1: know our our enemy, Daniel Jeremiah, who I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to get into podcasting this year, so keep a

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Speaker 1: lookout on that. He noticed job Sewel. Sewel just does

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Speaker 1: not look comfortable. And you don't need to be like

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Speaker 1: a former scout like Jeremiah to see that, and it

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Speaker 1: does get you thinking, like you draft this guy number

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Speaker 1: seven overall, he's such an important part, and then you

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Speaker 1: just change his positions like he's never played right tackle

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Speaker 1: right tackle because you have um Taylor Decker at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: But that that always worries me. I know what kind

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Speaker 1: of work It worked for Jedrick Wills, but it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work for everyone. And you're right. Of all those guys,

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Speaker 1: I think Slater is the one that that the Chargers

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Speaker 1: aren't worried about. They seem to think he looks great

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Speaker 1: and they're just keeping anyone that possibly matters out of

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Speaker 1: the preseason. But for the rest of those teams like

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Speaker 1: that is that is huge? Alright? You like the Bengals

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Speaker 1: couldn't have made the right choice there, right because Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase isn't looking good? All right? Well let me jump

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Speaker 1: in then, because I you know, I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: dwell on this because we have hit this a couple

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Speaker 1: of times on the show. What's going on with jam

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Speaker 1: R Chase who is struggling in his first camp with

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Well, actually hit pause here because I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to say something positive about the

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Speaker 1: Bengals first, Okay, because it's been it's been relentlessly negative

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Speaker 1: on the show. Has just been a lot of bad news. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This from your your colleague, UM, Paul Denner, junior at

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Speaker 1: the Athletic has kicker Evan McPherson enjoyed the best camp

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Speaker 1: in preseason by a rookie kicker since Lou Groza in

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Speaker 1: n I don't know, and I don't know if Groza

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Speaker 1: even kicked the training camp the year after World War

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Speaker 1: Two ended, But I can't imagine anybody being better than

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Speaker 1: McPherson over the last month. The only kick he has

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Speaker 1: missed that the media has been able to see was

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Speaker 1: a sixty yarder in the fan fest event. That's it.

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Speaker 1: He's destroying the ball accurately, little little kick corner in

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Speaker 1: the game. Austin Siebert has been good too, but not good.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to year one one miss because as a

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Speaker 1: as someone who follows the Vikings, I know how dangerous

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Speaker 1: it is to be perfect for an entire session. Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: Gary Anderson references on the show. People aren't prepared for

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Speaker 1: it at your Vikings fan anyway. So there's the good

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Speaker 1: news they have. They have a positive kicking competition, UM

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Speaker 1: and special teams. But the Jamar chasing. So not only

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Speaker 1: does he struggle Chase throughout the lead up to this weekend,

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Speaker 1: then in the preseason game, he drops three targets in

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Speaker 1: the in the game against Washington on Friday, Then on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: UM he's in practice and Burrows just putting it on

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Speaker 1: him and he has a couple more drops, and he's

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Speaker 1: doing the thing where he's got the towel over his

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Speaker 1: head and there's just a lot of mental stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: And then uh, there's a report again from Dinner that

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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase could lose some regular season snaps to Audent

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Speaker 1: take uh the in house receiver they have there. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not ringing the alarm bell because he did miss

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Speaker 1: all of the last season when he opted out, and

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Speaker 1: he could be rusty, but you just you were hoping

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Speaker 1: at some point he's going to turn the corner here,

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Speaker 1: and now it's becoming more and more of a story.

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Speaker 1: And uh, if we're talking winners and losers, Uh not

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Speaker 1: that March is a loser, but this is a losing

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Speaker 1: scenario right now for Cincinnati. Yeah, it's tough. I don't

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Speaker 1: wanna because like so for his teammate at L s U,

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, right, Um, you know he outproduced Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: at L s U. You think, well one to one,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe he'll you know, continue to do well. But

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Speaker 1: also for Robber, Jefferson didn't win the starting job coming

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Speaker 1: out of camp as a Viking. You know, he didn't

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Speaker 1: start the first two games. And I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: like a case of Mike Zimmer being like stubborn. He

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Speaker 1: did not look that spectacular camp, didn't look as like

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Speaker 1: I guess as bad as Chase is currently looking, but

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Speaker 1: did not look um like he clearly won the starting

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Speaker 1: job from BC Johnson, who right now is like fifth

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Speaker 1: or six of the Vikings receiver death chart, and so

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Speaker 1: coming out of camp like it, it was like kind

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Speaker 1: of a story like are we going to get anything

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Speaker 1: out of him you know this year? Um? Or are

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Speaker 1: we gonna have to wait? So I keep that in mind.

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Speaker 1: You know, the kind of the preseason stuff, the early stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, it matters, but maybe not as much as

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Speaker 1: as we like to pretend. Even for me a preseason enthusiast,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have to I have to remember that

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Speaker 1: when when people go to games, they pay to go

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Speaker 1: to that. Uh. You know, these things don't always translate,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like cardan full price for these games.

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Speaker 1: They're charging full price to watch Nathan Peterman versus uh,

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Speaker 1: who was Bryce Hopkins? What is like? If that drives

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Speaker 1: me crazy? The fans? Well, this is all right. Let

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Speaker 1: me just before we go to you, Greg for your

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Speaker 1: first winner and loser, I just want to say the

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Speaker 1: preseason I don't know, man, I think we're in a

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Speaker 1: dicey time right now. They've cut it from four to

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Speaker 1: three and more and more teams arresting the starters, and

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Speaker 1: then you have and I'll use it as an example,

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Speaker 1: um as I often do, I'll use the jet Zack

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Speaker 1: Wilson performed very well, uh this weekend, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: going against any Packers starters. So it's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's really take out of that. He he's getting

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Speaker 1: reps on the field and live action, but is he

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Speaker 1: really getting a true experience ahead of Week one against starters?

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Speaker 1: And then you see what happens to a J mccarroen

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Speaker 1: who blows out his knee, and then you look you

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Speaker 1: think about Sean McVeigh was like, as long as I'm

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Speaker 1: ever a coach here, no one's ever gonna be playing

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Speaker 1: in the preseason starters. And if this is going to

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Speaker 1: continue to just devolve into these are just the backups

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Speaker 1: and uh there's no structure to it. Ay, they need

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Speaker 1: to revisit how much fans are getting charged for these

638
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: games and be you just wonder if it's eventually five

639
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: years from now, it's just gonna be all uh scrimmages

640
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, inter squad practices, and if that's

641
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: what this is gonna turn into, because I feel like

642
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: we're in this like ray area in a way that

643
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: is even more extreme than it used to be. Well people, Yeah,

644
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: I think thought, okay, well we cut it down one

645
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: that solves that question. But no, like you know, Goodell

646
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: said for years how it's such a bad product. They

647
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: changing it from four to three hasn't changed that. And

648
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: to your point, you're right, Dan, if you think about

649
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: who are the coaches that are playing guys and says

650
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: where I don't think there's a right answer, like it's

651
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Bill Belichick. It's like the two of

652
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: the greatest coaches of all time. They think that playing

653
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: football helps you to play football. You know that it

654
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: helps you get better at playing football, that you know,

655
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: playing some football helps. So that was that was really good.

656
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Not to say that at one side is corrected the

657
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: other one. But let me use this phrase. That makes

658
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: it very clear what the oldest coaches in the league.

659
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: So it might be a generational thing. There has to

660
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: be value in it, but there obviously is value in

661
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: the other side and that you can get the work,

662
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: uh in the practices. I I don't know if eventually

663
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: the entire league is going to be like that, but

664
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: you're right, it's it's a tough go. It's a tough

665
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: go to to to draw anything. Well, let's bring up

666
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: Zach Wilsons and if I'll throw out him as a

667
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: winner though, because I don't know, especially the way camp

668
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: started with him, you know, you you the practice reports

669
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: were up and down, the scrimmage reports were up and down,

670
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: and he just looks comfortable. I didn't know what to

671
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: draw of his first game, not that there was anything

672
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: bad to it, but it was just really basic. And and

673
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: and some defenses stay really basic in the precess and

674
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: some are not. Some are running all sorts of complicated.

675
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Blitz is like the whole time, because that's like their

676
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: base defense and that's just what they want to do.

677
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: And Zach Wilson hasn't played a defense like that or

678
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: played starters. But I think the way he moves in

679
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: the pocket and the way he's going through progressions, in

680
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: the way that he just looks comfortable back there. He

681
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: certainly passes the eye tests, and I think that is

682
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: what preseason can be good for that it's given him

683
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff more confidence in how he is

684
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: going to enter the season. I am excited to watch

685
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and it's been it's been a

686
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: while at least just as an entertaining because I'm into

687
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Zack Wilson. So far, I think, is that

688
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: a really positive preseason? Good offensive line, good receivers, interesting quarterback,

689
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: good interior defensive line. Honestly, I mean that's that's an

690
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: interesting team to follow. Um. Wilson the thing that jumps

691
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: out to me. And by the way, I'm in now,

692
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: or if you should know, I'm a Jets fan, Um

693
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: I am. I was. I was trying to sit out

694
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson hype period because I was hurt by

695
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and Browning Nagle and everyone in between. Um,

696
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: but now I'm all in because he just looks so

697
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: free and easy and confident, and I just like the

698
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: way he I don't know, man, I'm starting to feel

699
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: like maybe they hit on something here. But again, going

700
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: back to my point, who knows. Maybe he's just going

701
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: against a bunch of few future ups, drivers and bouncers

702
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: and this isn't anything to get excited about. But he

703
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: has looked very good. All right Back to you, are

704
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: we um? He kind of took the Zach Wilson went

705
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: away from me. Honestly, Well, do you have to add?

706
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: I certainly won't stop you? Well, no, I I think

707
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: that point about the defense is good because you can

708
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: contrast Zack Wilson with say Justin Fields or Trey Lance,

709
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: who have had some really fantastic moments in the preseason

710
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: thus far, some really great moments that can get you

711
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: excited about them with moments where you're like, well they

712
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: aren't playing a more complicated defense and man Fields look blinkered.

713
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: Uh kind of figure out kind of what that blitz

714
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: situation was as others. A healthy debate on Twitter about

715
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: who that was on. But I mean, at the end

716
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: of the day, um, unblocked defender is coming for you.

717
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: You have to do something about it. You have to

718
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: see it. Right. He cracked in that game, absolutely in

719
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: the moment that had to freak out Bears fans. Oh yeah,

720
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: I have to imagine for sure. Um, and you know

721
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: he's like famously a fairly tough player coming out of college,

722
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: so you know, I imagine that you know he'll just

723
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: kind of use this to to learn and move on.

724
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: But it kind of looks like he's not ready. Trey Lance, Um,

725
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, his high highs are really great, They're really fun.

726
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Some of his best moments he's got, like there's not

727
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: even a defender within eight yards, much less three yards

728
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: of him, and he's just firing off a deep on

729
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: into a wide open which is what Shanahan's great at right,

730
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: a wide open tight end down the field or something. Um.

731
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: But then there are other moments where like, well he's

732
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: kind of slow, he's not kind of getting kind of

733
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: what he needs, especially beginning this this this week two

734
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: game that he had. UM. So you contrast that with

735
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, who's maybe not facing the same challenges defensively

736
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: as his other two were, but you at least get

737
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: to see kind of what that floor might be for him.

738
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: That's really exciting to see. Um. Yeah, I mean that's

739
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: that's what I get to add on too. And I

740
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: also got to throw in that discussion about about fields

741
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: and uh and Lansing there two. So I guess I

742
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: guess to cut my peace and well, let's I want

743
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: to say though that Jimmy g would be one of

744
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: my fathers in a strange way, which is that it

745
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: really feels like Kyle Shanahan wants Trey Lance to win

746
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: this job eek one, which is which is what I

747
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: kind of felt coming into camp. We've talked about it.

748
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you, a reef. I think the second

749
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: Tray Lance game, but it's pretty similar to the first,

750
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of things to be a little concerned about,

751
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, holding the ball um, just not being able

752
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: to read things, seeing seeming a little tight for most

753
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: of that performance until he gets into the two minute drill.

754
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: But then you look at like the drives that he's played.

755
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: He's played fourteen drives in the last two weeks, and

756
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: it really feels like Shanahan's trying to set him up

757
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: to win the job. And then after the game he

758
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: refuses to say is the week one starter? So I

759
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: don't know who's a winner and loser here, like clarity,

760
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: I guess is the loser. But it feels like if

761
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: it cost a lot more to trade for someone who

762
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: might start than somebody right, if he wants to Trey

763
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 1: Lance to win the job, then it's then Trey Lance

764
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: is gonna win the job. Maybe it won't be weak one,

765
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know, Like I don't think Trey Lance

766
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: has shown enough that you just give it to him,

767
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: But it looks like that's what Kyle Stan wants to happen.

768
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: Let me move to the defending a f C champions Um.

769
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, I feel I have this feeling, and it's

770
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: not bold or brave on any level that Patrick Mahomes

771
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: is gonna drop a major season for the Ages this year, UM,

772
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: just for a better line and still has these superstars

773
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: around him. And then just how talented he is, like

774
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: mastervice Craft type season coming up, fifty touchdown type season

775
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: if he stays healthy. Now the other side of the

776
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: ball is the only thing that's gonna stop him. And

777
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: I just think you keep on reading about Chris Jones

778
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: UH and how good he books, and the shape he's in,

779
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: and how he's been completely dominant UH in practices in

780
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: preseasons and preseason. I'm I'm just wondering, like, how good

781
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: can the Chief's defense be because it's one of those

782
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: situations where it just needs to be okay, Right, So

783
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: if you have somebody like Jones delivering a monster season

784
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: that can carry you to okay almost single handedly. Feels

785
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: like he feels like a great Defensive Player of the

786
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: Year pick for what. I don't know what the odds are,

787
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, he feels like he would be

788
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: a nice one because I'm sure he's not one of

789
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: the few favorites, but yeah, him playing at defensive end

790
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: and everything you hear, you're absolutely right. Yeah, And I

791
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: think I've got like some really interesting pieces that I mean,

792
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: like Lujarius Sneed had a really great rookie year last season,

793
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: didn't get to play the full season, but had a

794
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: really great rookiear last Season's looked pretty good in the preseason,

795
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: So they've got some pieces on defense that that will

796
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: allow them to kind of, I guess, make it impossible

797
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: for other offenses to keep pace. I guess it's the

798
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: goal here for for the Chiefs defense. So yeah, pretty

799
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: excited about that. I had the Chiefs written down as

800
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: one of the winners to or something related to the Chiefs,

801
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: which was the Chiefs running game. The Chiefs do give

802
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: us something. They do give the preseason enthusiasts something they

803
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: show a lot in the preseason and they're running game.

804
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: This preseason has been very diverse, like mixing in a

805
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of extra stuff. I like what I've seen out

806
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: of Jeric McKinnon. I'm kind of a sucker for him.

807
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: He did not look ever healthy in San Francisco last year,

808
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: but supposedly from everyone who's watched practice every day, he

809
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: showed up there and has been a difference Baker, and

810
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: he looks good on the field, and so I think

811
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs running game, they keep saying in practice, it's

812
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: all about these long, slow drives because that's what defenses

813
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: are going to give to Patrick Mahomes, and so I

814
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: think the running game could be could be better this year.

815
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Give them a winner. Do you are you curious at

816
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: all the actual odds for Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah,

817
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: all right, I don't even know where this is coming from,

818
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter. I don't even know if

819
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: for a lot to talk about this um, but all

820
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: the usual suspects, Aaron Donald, Miles, Garrett T. J Watt,

821
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Nick bos A, Joey Us, back to back, that's Proud,

822
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Chase Young, Khalil Max. So that's the top eight, and

823
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: then man Derwin James. I like that. That's that's pie

824
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: in the sky, but I guess I could see it.

825
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: That's fun. And then rounding out the top ten is

826
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick. I don't even see Chris Jones on this list,

827
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: so maybe a nice long long Chris Jones dial hunter.

828
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: There's some pretty good values to have on the field,

829
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: right that's that's interesting. Do you have another one? Uh? Yeah, sure,

830
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: let's I mean a couple of defensive players. I wanted

831
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: to talk about. Malik McDowell had a really good game

832
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: this past week. And you know he's been he's had

833
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: so much trouble, you know, since the Seats acquired him.

834
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, he had an a TV accident that

835
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: put him on the on the reserve list. Yeah, it's

836
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: he's just been such a rough go for him. Um,

837
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: he was picked in the second round. He was super talented,

838
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: probably could have been picked in the first round honestly, Um,

839
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: but injuries from the actor hasn't prevented him from from

840
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: ever kind of seeing the field with the Seahawks. Um

841
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: ended up with Like he had a couple of alcohol

842
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: struggles too. It's it's really tough. I ended up getting

843
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: arrested for buying stolen property, just like a brutal, brutal

844
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: a couple of years for him. Had a great preseason

845
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: with the Browns, who really need some sort of pass

846
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: rushing interior help to go along with with Myles Garrett. So, uh,

847
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: that game was really good for him. Uh, it would

848
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: be fun for him to make the roster it's so

849
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: easy to cheer for stories like that for somebody who's

850
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: who's been down on their luck. Uh and and to

851
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: find you know, hopefully that you know that's that's gonna

852
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: be a great organization for for him to find support

853
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: with him because he looked really great and I kind

854
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: of hope that trans round for him. So I'm gonna

855
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: call him a preseason winner. Look at that going deep.

856
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go um on the Cowboys linebackers.

857
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: They do want to get this and that I'm gonna

858
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: go followers. I don't the losers harsh, but it is wild.

859
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: You're the one that said we should do the segment

860
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: and said, yeah, here's the here's the here's the losers.

861
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: It's it's Jalen Smith and Layton vander Esh like this

862
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: is this has been my corner since since the draft.

863
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: But I can't believe it happened so quickly. They are backups.

864
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: They are backups. Jalen Smith is one of the highest

865
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: paid linebackers in the league. Laton Vanderesh was a first

866
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: round pick who had one of the better rookie linebacker

867
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: seasons of the last decade. Has not been the same

868
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: since they are backups to Michael Parsons and Kian O'Neil.

869
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Like that the switch has already happened. It's apparently it's

870
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: happened for two straight weeks. Michael Parsons is starting at

871
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: middle linebacker over Vanderesh, and Keyan O'Neil, who came with

872
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn from Atlanta, is starting over Jalen Smith. I'm

873
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: at the point where I kind of expect Jalen Smith

874
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: to be traded or cut, maybe because that feels like

875
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: a problem. He's one of the biggest vocal leaders on

876
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: that team. I don't I don't think that will happen

877
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: with Banderesh, But I'm just kind of amazed and happy

878
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: that they're like the Cowboys just made the move. They're

879
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: not They are not messing around. These are I mean,

880
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: that's depth for you. Now you have Cowboys could be winners.

881
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they're great at that position. They have other

882
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: positions they've maybe could have used to upgrade. But Michael

883
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: Parsons looked so good. No one is gonna is gonna

884
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: say that was a bad pick. That's for sure. That's

885
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: a good one. I like that because Mark's not here.

886
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Let me bring up. Jake Funk, the rookie seventh round

887
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: pick of the Rams. Yeah, on seven carries uh this weekend,

888
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: So he's making progress. Xavier Jones also in the mix.

889
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: Remember it's Darrell Henderson who's the starter for the Rams

890
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: at running back after the season ending achilles tear for

891
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: cam Akers. But maybe Funk is bringing the funk to

892
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: that running back room. That's for you, Mark Sessler, or

893
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: if you got one more before we say goodbye. Yeah,

894
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: how about the Buffalo pass rush? I think that was

895
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: an area where they could have used a lot of

896
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: help last year. I mean, I mean it was a

897
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: really good team offense and defense, but you know they

898
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: relied on a lot of blitz is from like a j.

899
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: Klein to in order to finally get the pressure uh.

900
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: And you know Jerry uses up there in age and

901
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: and so you know they've they've gotten a couple of

902
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the past two drafts and a JP

903
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: and Ess and great group so both of whom have

904
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: looked really good rushing off the edge. This preseason. You know,

905
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: we talked about how rough it was for Penny so well,

906
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: one of the players he's up against was great Great

907
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Rousseau who ended up having a really good game, So

908
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: if both and honestly, I didn't really like either of

909
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: these picks by the Bills. I thought Rosa was overrated.

910
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: I thought Evanessa was overrated. Happy to eat my words

911
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: because they both, at least so far, look really really good.

912
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: Bills are scary. I had written that downe to like

913
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: that was the biggest concern I think of the entire

914
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: team coming into training camp, and now they have these

915
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: two young guys. That's another like preseason can have value.

916
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: People think it doesn't have any value, Like I am

917
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: much higher on their pass rush now because Greg Russo

918
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: looks like a great pick and Epanessa, who was not

919
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: good last year didn't play much, looks like he's kind

920
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: of taking a second year leap, like the Colts pass rushes. Similarly,

921
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: a group I'm a little higher on now than I

922
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: was going in into camp. Quitti Pace supposed their rookies

923
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: supposedly had a really good camp. Ben bonnagu a second

924
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: round like done nothing in his career, looks like he's

925
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: flashing and they needed those guys to step up. They

926
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: decided to kind of get rid of a bunch of

927
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: veterans and have the young guys step up and draft pay.

928
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: So far, it looks like it's working. So it's like

929
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: you can, you can, you can learn things as a

930
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: preseason enthusiast. Well, how about this, I mean preseason matters

931
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: to Mitch Drabinski, events goes against his old team, torches

932
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: him four straight touchdown drives to start the game, twenty

933
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: in the touch in the first half. I don't know.

934
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: I still don't know how bron Brian Dable didn't get

935
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: a job, But if he turns Mitch Drabinski into a

936
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: functional NFL player at least a really good backup uh

937
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: this season. I mean, the Bills are just so well

938
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: set up um at every level, especially if they make

939
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: that jump the best. I think this has a chance

940
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: to be the best a FC East since since I've

941
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: been on the job, like the last decade and a half.

942
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: What's the last chance? Maybe, well, maybe we'll be wrong,

943
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: but it's been a bad so maybe I'll tell you

944
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: when's the last time the a f C East was

945
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: truly competitive across the board, like all the way around,

946
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: like across the board, like late nineties when you had

947
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: the Bills the Jets with parcels the Patriots with Bled

948
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: so uh, and the Dolphins at all at that time.

949
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: It was kind of like everyone was in the mix

950
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: at the same time. Nobody was in a down period.

951
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: It's pretty much we all know the Patriots dominated for

952
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: two decades, but there's been some really bad teams in

953
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: that division during that stretch. Maybe this is the year Greg,

954
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: especially at the Patriots. You would think, like the natural

955
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: cycle of things, a team loses their franchise, legendary quarterback,

956
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: they go into a down cycle for ten years. But

957
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: that doesn't really feel like that's where the Patriots are,

958
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: while the Dolphins, Jets rising in the Bills are awesome.

959
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins and Jets and Patriots are above average teams.

960
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: The Bills are a jugg or not, and the Jets

961
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: are definitely better, gonna be watchable Like that's that's maybe

962
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: a year away. Maybe the Jets are there. Speaking of

963
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: rises and followers, I mean, to a teck of Love,

964
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: it looked fantastic, yea, so good. This has been a

965
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: very positive month for ta Alright, reef, you listen. We

966
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: have a dossier that we keep for guests. Uh. I

967
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: don't know why we don't keep this information in the

968
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: house and just share it freely that some people we

969
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: have back. Some people we call hit it and quit it,

970
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: they don't come back. We'd love to have you back.

971
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't even care for that sounds great. You don't

972
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: know what it's like when we tell someone that they've

973
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: made the hit it in quitit list at the end

974
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: of their first appearance and that they'll never be back.

975
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Just the looks on their face, it's like, you know,

976
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: you didn't You didn't pay me for this. I am

977
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: not I should not be subjected to this additional It's

978
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: a very bad podcast, but thank you for making it better.

979
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: A Reef and h follow Reef on Twitter and if

980
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: you're a Vikings fan, that is the place to go.

981
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Uh the athletic Thank you buddy. Yeah, thanks for having

982
00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: me on there, he goes, good one. Good guests right there, Ricky,

983
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: how's the dos say coming? Because you would think after

984
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: it kind of puts you on the spot a little

985
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: bit last week and you gave us the dog ate

986
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: my homework that maybe the file would drop into our

987
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: text email like later that day, but still haven't seen

988
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: it yet. She oh did, Yeah, I had like two

989
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: names could not have taken too long to put together.

990
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: She did send it my my deepest apologies. Well Greg

991
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: did that too. Actually this morning he sent me some

992
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: Where's that. I was like, where's the link? The night

993
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: Greg asked me, He's like, can we get the links

994
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: way earlier just so I can have it? And I'm like,

995
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: of course, I'm not just things, and you produced the

996
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: show and you often send the link like well after this,

997
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: So I sent it at seven pm, okay, And then

998
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Greg says at ten thirty this morning. Those early links

999
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: for pods lasted about three weeks, and I said, sent

1000
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: it last night, and I said, scroll up three messages

1001
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: and watch your tone. I stand by my statement because

1002
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: last because they were coming late last week. So you

1003
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: can't be a producer on this show if you if

1004
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: you can't stick up for yourself and Erica, you certainly

1005
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: do that. Greg trying to bully you. Come on, Greg,

1006
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, I didn't know if that was

1007
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: a nickname. I thought he was like, I don't know.

1008
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know if a reef somehow had some sort

1009
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: of insider like knowledge, but probably not. All right, did

1010
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: you have anything in your notebook there? Greg? Did you

1011
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: have a one more you wanted to throw out there,

1012
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: Um no, we didn't mention. We didn't mention. I think

1013
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: we hit all the big ones. But Teddy played perfect.

1014
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: Uh this week, I really got the sense, if you

1015
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: read between the lines, they were gearing up to name

1016
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: your Lock the starter. I think they wanted to um

1017
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: going into the game, if you kind of read between

1018
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: the line of some of the reporting of people we trust,

1019
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: like a James Palmer, just felt like they were gearing

1020
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: up to do to name Lock the starter. But they

1021
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: had said, well, Teddy's gonna start the second game, and

1022
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: then all what happens. Teddy has like two perfect drives

1023
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: where he makes some great plays. After the game, Fongio

1024
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: they compared him to Tom Brady and said he was

1025
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: doing some like elite next level stuff, and uh, I

1026
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: was like, I've never heard Fonio talk that positively about

1027
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: any offensive player. If you look at like the PFF grades,

1028
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: like Teddy has like an eighty three and Lock has

1029
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: a sixty four. Lock kind of struggled in the relief appearance,

1030
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: and now it feels like they don't know what to do.

1031
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know if that's a

1032
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: winner a loser, But I think they wanted to go

1033
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: lock and now they shouldn't allow a couple of drives

1034
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason to change you mind. How can they

1035
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: not know? I think you should base it on the

1036
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: body of work, and they know these players and that

1037
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Ted's the better choice personally. But like it's they shouldn't

1038
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: base it on a driver too. But it felt like

1039
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: he made a significant dent into that race. I don't

1040
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do that Bridgewater led as Gregg noted,

1041
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: calling it perfect. There's always that little extra flare with

1042
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: Greg and Bridgewater talk. It's not that it was a

1043
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: really good performance. It was perfect. Uh two touchdown drives

1044
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: and two position possessions, which I guess it is perfect

1045
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: if if that's the what the barometer is for being

1046
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback nine of eleven passing for a hundred and

1047
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: five yards and a touchdown and Founggio when asked about

1048
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: that QB decision, I mean, you could be listening to

1049
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: this now and he might have already announced it because

1050
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: he said it won't be Sunday, and it wasn't the

1051
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: earliest it could be would be early next week. So

1052
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I bet they start lock and

1053
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: they bench them like week three. That's my prediction. Yeah.

1054
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong because I want to just ride

1055
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: this Teddy Broncos train to the playoffs. There usually is

1056
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: a team every year on this podcast. I guess it's

1057
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of Team b tli um that it was West,

1058
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: but like you and Mark will get aligned on a

1059
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: team and get super on fire about him and I

1060
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: feel like the Broncos. But I kind of feel like

1061
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: that's what it was last August two. Yeah, well West

1062
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: West has kind of been on the Fonsio Broncos. Uh,

1063
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: he was on him early. I think there. I think

1064
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: they've been setting up and building a lot of town.

1065
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: They had a lot of bad luck last year with

1066
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: with injuries and in their quarterbacks, but now they have

1067
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Teddy to see it. Right. Well, the quarterback wasn't a

1068
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: bad luck. It was just bad quarterback back. All right.

1069
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: We'll be back Wednesday again. Yes, the annual Fantasy Extravaganza,

1070
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: shock full of guests, including that big old Fish, the

1071
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: large Fish, the large Tuna, Evan silva Um. So make

1072
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: sure you're there for that. And I guess we're keeping

1073
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: a little open ended this week if if because We're

1074
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna keep it fantasy focused on Wednesday, and maybe if

1075
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: we need another podcast later in the week, maybe it drops,

1076
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you'll see um. But either way, we'll have the NFL

1077
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: Network program as well, returning. I believe that's on Thursday

1078
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: this week, right, Okay, so uh Fantasy Extravaganns on Wednesday,

1079
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: NFL Network around, the NFL broadcast on Thursday, and we'll

1080
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: be on call otherwise for any other huge news that

1081
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: may develop in our league. Anything else. No, we might.

1082
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: We might uh finish this one in double digits. I do.

1083
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Mark. He's had a tough weekend,

1084
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: and then the one show he's missing is the one

1085
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: that's sub one hour, which is all not even that tight.

1086
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: We're at fifty six. Remember back in the day, we

1087
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: we used to really debate, you know, go back and forth.

1088
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: I would try to keep it under fifty. That was

1089
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: like my magical if we could get a lot of

1090
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the lot of people, you get a lot of buzz

1091
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter, A lot of people are excited that our

1092
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: show is generally about a half hour, not the ninety

1093
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: minute you know, Journeys of the Ear that some of

1094
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: these other football podcasts are that was from two thousand

1095
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: and thirteen, that clip, and we were doing some digging

1096
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: on the West as a story. Erica came across that

1097
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: just just bloviating and bragging about how our show is

1098
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and all these other jabronies are sixty to

1099
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. It's just like a bunch of guys just

1100
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: full of themselves, can't you know, don't get sick of

1101
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: hearing their own voice? No, now, what have we? What

1102
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: have we become? It's important to defeat the monster that

1103
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: you do, not become the monster the fans. You know,

1104
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: you were always on the corner of the fans. Fans

1105
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: never complained when it's longer, you know, never never the

1106
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: only person that's ever complained or some management figures um

1107
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: have complained about the length of the show. But the

1108
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: listeners look at Dan trying to stretch it over an hour. Now,

1109
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: I got all of those listeners. Now, let's name all

1110
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: the countries that listen to this show. Algeria. I'm just

1111
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: going down that scroll when you have when you're building

1112
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: in some document online and you're looking for the United States,

1113
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: and always starts in Algeria because like the embassy Arab

1114
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: Emirates Arab Emirates. All right, that's it. No, this is a

1115
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: a sub hour. We did it because there is signing.

1116
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed, signing off for the old Boss and

1117
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood. Thank you to our read until Wednesday, the extravaganza.

1118
00:57:47,400 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: He's the call s