WEBVTT - Alonzo Williams: Eazy E Dying of AIDS Was A Set Up! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.840 Hey, it's another episode against the Chronicles podcast and now 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:08.000 I am big still with my dog. Hey, you know 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.520 I just heard fresh off the presses man your boy 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.800 Tyler period on mess around and bought bt mmm he 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:15.400 could check. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:16.759 That's a big bag. I don't know how. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:21.160 Much he bought it for, too billy plus and that 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.119 voice you hear in the background that came in. We 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.360 got a special guest today as the homeboy, Alonzo. Y'all 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.920 noticed over the past few weeks. You know, we had 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.839 a little bit of dialogue. It's just a little bit, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.839 just a little bit of dialogue. We still well, we 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.600 still welcome our people's to the show man. So you know, 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.280 y'all give it up for Lionzo. Yes, indeed, how much. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.040 You think he paid for I was like right up 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.880 right around too big and doc right around I heard. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.880 I was the whole conversation on the way over here. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.480 Two billion, too big, right about too big? 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.760 That's man, what you got over there? 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.200 Alarms going to turn this guy theamn watch y'all, I 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.920 turn my phone off. The guy didn't watch it. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.280 Yeah, I'm not fancy. I don't know. I ain't never 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.959 talking to like Dick Tracy and yeah, you. That's like 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.880 my son, man, My son is with all that technology 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.440 and ship. I'm I'm still spending my ship back and ship. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.760 One thing about these phone companies, they stay with some 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.120 success reasons ship to charge the motherfucker. My wife's hit 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.399 me one day, said, oh, they got the Apple Watch 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.000 on sale, can you give me one? I said, what's 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.240 the Apple Watch? I guess she'd be on her phone. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:32.320 Yeah, they like fucking like, what's the old school Dick Tracy. Yeah, 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.840 there you go, that's Dick Tracy. Like a motherfucker, get 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.720 smart on the motherfucker around here. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.160 She will start talking. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.680 Yeah, so ship. So Tyler Perry, Yeah, Tyler Perry bought him. Man, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.840 I wonder what you go see because it seemed like, 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.320 you know, I applaud man any brother man that is 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.520 built what he built because I first heard when my 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.800 mama was still living in Cleveland. That's the first time 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.800 I heard of Tyler Perry. She had a bunch of 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.200 VHS tapes with these he was doing on there, and 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.160 I saw her, my auntie and even my wife, they 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.320 was all captivated by this shit. And I said, man, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.520 this dude got something going. So just seeing a brother 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.840 come from where he come from being homeless to owning 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.560 a major network. Now, you know, it's crazy, man. Whether 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.080 you like his movies or not, you know what I mean, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.440 you still got to applaud. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.960 Brother because I'm not a fan of the movies. I'm 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.560 a fan of the struggle and the hustle and to 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.280 come up. And you know, he came from you know what, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.440 living in his car and all that shit. So the 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.280 the climb is is a you know, I applaud him 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.240 on his success, but I'm not a fan of the 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.760 I've never really sat down and watched the Tyler Perry movie. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.400 Now I'm a little different. I like his movies. If 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.840 you want to get high and have a good ass laugh, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.480 watch his movies. But I can't watch his TV shows. Okay, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.119 I cannot watch I tried it. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.520 There's a difference between the different Okay, I. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.639 Think they get it. They like points like he go 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.200 to scenario, just make as shit as you go because 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.480 you're one character, take forever the stakes. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Sure. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.800 The thing is, if you've seen one, you kind of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.400 seen them all. I just seen them all. You kind 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.760 of seen them all because it's the same narrative. It's 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.720 a black woman on there that's mad about something, either 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.880 her seated on or something. It's a villainous ass ex boyfriend, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.120 and it's a simply to come in and say today 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.520 they wound up getting into a fight. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.079 With the dude they want. They always in a small 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.200 ass town somewhere and they probably gonna let you slides 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.360 it into the goddamn movie. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.280 So do you feel his movies make us look fucked 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.240 up as a black man? 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.839 He got some movies that that does make us look 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.720 fucked up. But now I know that when he plays 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.240 in the movies himself, not as madea like that one 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.360 movie he did he was it was a good, solid movie. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.200 I forgot the name of it. It was, uh he 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.680 saved he up marrying this chick that was homeless with 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:51.640 a daughter, and shit, that was a good damn anyway, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.320 Yeah he got He got some movies on both sides 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.920 of the fence, and keep it the one hundred. That's 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.280 that movie called Man, God Damn Alex something Man. Are 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.320 you a fan Alice Cross? Thank you, Alice Cross. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.600 I'm a fan of him as a person. His struggling 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.600 stuff the movies is cool. Or you know, I ain't 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.600 mad at the movies I watch him something like you said, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.840 when you're sitting up smoking the joint of something and 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.920 you just chilling. They cool to watch because my wife 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.720 liked the motherfuckers, so she she watched him, and you 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.880 was gota wind up watching. We all wind up watching 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.040 what our women like to watch. Right, you know what 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.640 I'm saying. So I don't be arguing I. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.120 Don't like to watch. I don't like to watch what 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.159 the woman like to watch. You don't watch TV with 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.120 your girl? No, see you a whole nigga. No, I 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.680 don't know how you get away with that. That's why 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.800 we got That's why it's That's why it's bedrooms with 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.720 TVs because usually I'm in the other room watching what 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.039 I want to watch. I don't want to watch some 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:50.240 Lifetime program or you know, some some women be watching 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.680 some crazy shit man. So yeah, I stick to my 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.919 sports at ESPN or some new shit. I don't watch 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.600 no fucking w They gonna be turning around looking at 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.479 you weird and shit after the program go off, and shit, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.040 well fuck that shit. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.160 Let me make sure we were let me make sure 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.080 we were reporting on things accurately. This is what they said. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.640 There's been a lot of speculation about who would eventually 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.560 purchase the Beet brand from Perrymont Global, it appears big 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.600 in their filmmaker studio owner Tyler Perry is the front 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.520 runner to be BET's next owner. Over the last several months, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.240 multiple individuals have expressed interest in buying BT. Hip hop 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.520 artists Moguls, Diddy and fifty Cent were named as potential buyers. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.480 A new report from The Streamer claims Perry would take 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.600 control of BT Media for an undisclosed amount. Perry previously 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.480 signed a motor year joint venture between Tyler Perry's Studios 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.800 and BT streaming service BT Productions. Oho, my things just 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.839 cut out, But anyway, he's buying it. Man, you know, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.120 fifty three years old. Man, this man went from being 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:58.039 homeless to buying a major, a major, major piece of 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.440 black intellectual property. And I and I think it's dope 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.840 that we keeping the black man. I applaud that brother. Man. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.560 You know, I don't think he's the greatest filmmaking the world. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.479 He's got a lot better, right, But I applauded dog. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.760 This dude on his own studios in Atlanta. That place 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.280 is in Prencipe head. Had hein't doing this motherfucking thing. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.080 He's definitely a trail blazer, as were you Loneso, because 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.440 I know you you like playing with the NWA acronym. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.120 Not without lines, yes, indeed, not. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:31.279 Without LINESO Lonzo said, wouldn't nobody NWA. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:37.200 See mwew I did say, CMW C MW n W 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.920 A C I A and a bunch of other initials 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.359 and little to loaks and shit wouldn't be here, wouldn't 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.040 be doing what they doing. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.520 So you had a oh I came down today, man, he. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.640 Came down to the Loneso said he wasn't having today, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.279 he said, not without Loneso, not without lines. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.040 A lot of niggas came through uh Lonzo's presence as 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.400 far as you know, uh that that door. As far 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.240 as getting a they what do I want to say, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.440 getting a shot into the music biz, because there was 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.160 not a lot of fucking West Coast artists here before 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.800 you know, Lonzo, the Recon Crew and shit. I couldn't 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.600 even name nobody before then if you asked me. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:25.440 Came out right. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.960 I listened to Todd because you know, Todd was from 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:34.360 my neighborhood. He was from Tragnew So Todd had TDK tapes. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.720 That's where I knew Todd from. I knew Recon Crew 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.400 from Surgery to twelve inch. That's why I got introduced 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:48.800 to the Recon Crew. But as far as records, all 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.720 I knew was y'all. As far as putting out records, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:57.760 were you Egypt Unknown had Techno how he was putting 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:03.280 out you know, based records and the first fucking uh 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:08.720 Ice Tea records. Then you had fucking dream Team and 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:14.240 in Rockberry Jam and all of that. So that ship 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.920 right there was all because we were all. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:22.480 Dance promoters, all DJs. The whole era, the whole generation 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.120 was totally different. Back then, all we did was gave 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.760 dances and chase chicks. That's all we did. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.040 So that's why your music kind of was. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.440 That's why we were That's why we had Jerry Carroll, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.839 That's why we had them, SUSO were trying to get 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:41.240 laid and have some fun. Okay, let me ask you one. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.439 It's just one thing I want to know, bro, what 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.679 was up with the air with all the we got 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.120 this ship from Tour de France. Man, that ship was 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.760 the hottest shit in the club at the time. Man, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:59.280 look at craft work, all meet Rerecord Crew egypt A 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.199 lot of our it was dance Dance Records, the Record 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:08.480 Crew Egyptian lover fucking out of New York, Uh soul 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.040 sohnic Force. That was the ship that and vocoders Okay, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.360 the mechanical ship. That's all that was a that was 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.920 the musical sound that was like that was like our 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:24.520 fucking version of goddamn auto tune. Okay, it was like that. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.760 That was that was for that era. Okay. Everybody has 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.040 something they do different in every era. And for the dance, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.240 for the dance sets at that time, everybody was breathing 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.199 on their records. Okay. The nigga had asked, well, he 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.719 couldn't make a mother fucking record. Okay, that's what the 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.480 damn sure sound like the thing in the back wrong. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:44.880 And see. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.040 If we got this year form like we got it 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.320 from craft work list the craft work. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.599 So when did you notice, as like you said, that 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.480 was your era, when did you feel and notice that 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.520 hip hop so to speak, started changing? 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:07.319 Hip hop started changing for us around eighty seven, eighty six, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:13.559 eighty seven, because we started in eighty two. I started 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.800 in eighty two, but West Coast hip hop started changing 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.800 around eighty six eighty seven because we made turn off 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.520 the lights. That was around the same year that Dred 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.520 Radium left right after turn off the lights and formed 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.800 the NWA and y'all came up right behind them. So 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.400 it was like the late eighties and ice he had 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.920 already done his thing, but even then it hadn't it 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.959 hadn't officially changed over completely because we still was doing 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.760 dancings and shit. It was like we were in that 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.080 curve we you know that mix. You know, it's still 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.880 Nigga's still dancing, but they really started banging. They still dancing, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.120 but they started banging, and all of a sudden they 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.400 stopped dancing and started banging. The whole thing just changed completely. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.560 And even when we were going tour. First started going 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.000 on tour, all we played was R and B, R 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.360 and B groups. All it was record crew, rerecord crew, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.200 fucking Mary Jane girls, more stay in the time ship 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.520 like that. Then around the second and third year we 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.439 started seeing Force Him D's and other acts like that. Okay, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.960 because even though even though West cost even the East 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.440 Coast acts were doing more like an R and B thing, 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.439 you had to Force Him D's and even Cold Mo 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.439 d though he was a rapper, his music was R 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.439 with R and B music type. Okay, So by the 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.880 time my last tour with n W A, I never 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.920 forget it was n w A Eazy E just Ice 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.600 Uh and Ice T and World Class Record crew. We're 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.760 the headliner because turn up lights of the hottest record 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.360 of all this hit right Easy of them just starting up. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.160 They we just broke up, but dre and yelling them 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.960 with Easy them and we on tour with all these gangsters. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.480 So I'm like, Jerry, I'm telling you, because Erry Heller 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.000 was my manager, I'm like, dude, how are we on 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:04.480 the school? 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.600 This ain't gonna work for us. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.640 Now we had the biggest song, wasn't nobody checking for Easy? 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.439 And then like that, just yet they were only getting 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.320 minimum wage fifteen hundred dollars. Now I'm getting seven eight grand, Okay, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.559 iceed T still he's still was iced Tea. Oh he 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.960 always been Iced Tea. He getting a little bit little, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.559 probably get the same money as I am. But because 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.439 I had the biggest record, I was considered to draw 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.040 at that time. But they had all these gangs to 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.920 acts on the show. And that's when the whole thing 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.840 changed for us because now you can't get laid after 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.319 the show no more. You got to fight. Oh god, Yah, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.199 thing changed. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.160 Huh. It was a lot of bullshiting the tour. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.040 I was bullshit. Then by that time I picked up 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.400 battle Cat, Richie Rich and Mona Lisa to do turn 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.280 off Lights. So battle Cat was a young nineteen year 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.240 old kids straight out of the sixties rolling with me 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:53.959 on tour for the first time. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.839 That's what I was wanna say. Who did you get 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.520 to replace Dre? And yelling? 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.439 Battle Cat was replacing Dre Richie Rich, he was with 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.400 the dream Team for a minute. And and uh, Mona Lisa, 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.840 who sang lovers in the first time. Uh, that's who 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.240 the song was written for in the first place, ended 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.760 up doing. Uh the song that Michele's parts. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:14.120 Is that right? 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.360 So miss so when Dre left, michel A bounce too, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:18.880 misch and they was never a part of the recond crew. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.319 She was just like a feature work for hire type situation. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.880 She was, you know, I watched her movie. I think 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.880 I called you because I was at home watching. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.640 Her b I think her was on BT one of 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:34.480 the Lifetime movie one of them Lifetime and that motherfucker 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.360 I said they got the homie. I need to ask 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.040 them this ship true, he found her in the store. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.320 Of all the ships, man, that was probably the biggest 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.120 lot I ever told all the ship I've ever done. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:46.920 Niggas a lied on me in all kinds of ways. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.920 They lied on me and Jesus all the time. And 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.000 they lied on me when they did Jesus. Okay, And 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.400 now she did work at a store, but I was 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.360 not walking through the goddamn store looking for a pair 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.880 of socks. We're fucking socks, man, I just showed you that. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.679 For the god dam, I didn't even wear socks that much. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:12.199 So they then they had me smoking cigarettes pacing outside 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.960 the studio waited for her to go off the bus. Man. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.040 That's a bullshit. Anybody know any woman that worked with 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.200 me gonna get a ride to and from the goddamn studio. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.480 And they had it like you was intervening in her 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:24.800 and Dre's I. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.640 Ain't get dude, when they started fucking around, how don't 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.920 know they was sucking around. I didn't know they were 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:34.120 fucking around to after they left a whole different situation. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:34.520 Dot. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.360 So So let me ask you this line. So Dre 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.400 admitt her through your interactions up yeah studio. Okay, so cool. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.120 I thought that might have been his chick or something 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:44.320 like that. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.600 Big dude, dude. Mister Lee was like eighteen, she just 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.080 graduated high school, and uh she would come to the 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.920 studio hang out sometime, but she didn't hang out with 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.960 with the Fellers all the time. She was sometimes she 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.720 going the pad kicking with Rolls and uh uh dam 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.280 he was there. Yeah, yeah, Rose, he would be around 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.360 the path, yeah, roll because roll Yeah, that's right, you 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:08.240 had tiny That's right. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.240 I forgot about that shut up lines. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.240 He don't know. I'll tell you the nigga. I know 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.200 all the goddamn dirt. Okay, now you're gonna be you 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:25.320 fixed it that nasty. I didn't hit a nerve anyway. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:25.680 Uh. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.320 She was kicking in the pad a lot of times 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.400 and usually get I get up, either me or one 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.840 of the fellas get up and take her home. I 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.560 had no idea her and Dre had any kind of interaction. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.600 So you never saw none of that. I like to 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.840 be careful on what you say, yeah, because I'll be 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.720 telling you about what you be giving your questions. I 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:44.320 don't want to. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.360 Become that that type of messy ass podcast. You know 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:48.800 what I mean, putting out ship, you know, but. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.800 Because we always got to keep his ass off for 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.720 certain ship, you know what I'm saying, Because he likes to, 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.520 you know, walk that thin line sometime. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.840 The legs, the laserd abuse that was going on at 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:05.720 the time, you never saw, never saw something because I 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.160 know these movies have a ten. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:11.240 That's a lifetime ship. Ship. Man. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.320 I remember also at that time he might know what 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.040 I'm confident at that time at my house, nobody drank 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.040 sup or flipped him. I just see, I didn't see 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.400 no a ball till the nigga showed up. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:22.440 The gangs. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.720 Niggas come with a ball and all kind of ship. Okay, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.640 Dre them didn't drink, they didn't. We didn't even smoke 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.800 weed or nothing. These youngsters bought all the bad habits. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.040 In my house. We came with the gangster ship. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:34.920 Was it a shock to you when you saw Dre 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.280 make that transition into doing the type of music he 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:37.680 was doing. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.680 Yeah, I mean the music was always good. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:41.280 Okay. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.440 I just was like I knew all the guys personally. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.200 They never came off to me like that, you know 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:53.080 what I'm saying. These guys were. They came up to 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.000 me cool, but they was I knew that, I knew 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.360 where they were from. They was different. I never saw 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.200 them do anything, but they had a different vibe about them. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.040 I watched Dre, I knew Dre, I knew Cube, I 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.040 knew Yeller. I knew that, I knew they vibe was 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.000 totally different. So it kind of blew me away. They 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.520 gonna do what, Okay, cool if y'all buy it, they 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.680 sell it. Y'all buy it, get a receipt. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:14.800 And go home. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.560 I said, right there, Now, let me ask you this, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.320 and this is about the business part. Because you were 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.119 signed the techno pop right like hop technical hop you was. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.320 You were signing the techno hop. Yeah, was his stand 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.520 to practice back then because he wasn't signed the CMWO, 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.600 wasn't signed to you outside of the one project. But 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.119 it can almost be misconstrue this exploitation kind of because 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.920 they took you know, like Unknown took E's publisher. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.879 Now that right there, I can't speak on simply because 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.320 when I did a compilation album, my my one of 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.920 my things was to try and get everybody a deal 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.760 on that first compilation eight got picked up PG. Thirteen 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.359 got picked up. But now the sea got picked up. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.040 What happened to the what happened to West Coast Distributors? 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.600 Man, we went broke. We went fucking broke because that 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.920 was the plan. That was the plan. Yeah, okay, we 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.200 the company West Coast. West Coast Record Distributors was the 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:28.400 first company owned by artists, Me Rudy from the Dream 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.640 Team Unknown in Egypt. It was my idea. I put 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.800 all these cats together. We drove down to San Diego 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.160 to the NORM Convention National Association of Record Merchandisers, cut 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.119 a deal with the labels where they buy from us. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.920 They say, yeah, if y'all do it, we'll buy it 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.879 from you. We shot back to La went to Rainbow 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.800 Records in Santa Monica. Talked to Steve, say, Steve, we 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.440 leave him a cola. We're gonna we got people that 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.240 sit they'll buy from us. Well, we pressed our records. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.520 He said, yes, how much you're gonna charge us? We 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.399 want to charge you the record. I said, charge just 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.280 the regular price. He said, yeah, we need a line 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:09.040 of credit. He gave me Egypt, Rudy and Unknown twenty 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.440 five thousand dollars line of credit, not a piece of 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.480 paperwork in the motherfucking room. Hundred grand credit credit line 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.000 for Rainbow Records, not a piece of paper, just based 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:24.560 on our selling ability. My first project was CMW. I'd 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.560 been there about now, about six eight months. Okay, well, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.800 I'm sorry. The first project was Compilation. I've been there 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.240 about six eight months. And what we did not know 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.159 is that one of our partners was buying shit and 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:44.000 getting advances on because back then, in the independent record situation, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.840 you could go to the distributor, Hey look I got 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.520 a new project coming out. I need advance on my project. Okay, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.399 But because we were a distributor, they took it against 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:58.159 the distribution company and not that particular label, whoever's product 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.560 came out, they just got their money from. Y'all got 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:01.520 figured out for yourself. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:02.479 Okay. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.000 See what I'm saying, we're gonna charge it. We're gonna 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.600 charge this ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars to the fucking 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:13.000 distribution company. So when y'all come out, instead of y'all 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.520 getting now we build a shit, we're gonna get our 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.520 twenty grand back. I don't care what the product it is. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.639 So when it came down to it, the compilation was 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.480 the next project coming through, so it got caught up 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:26.960 in that ship. So now I got to actually, I 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.560 gotta go to the Egyptian lever and hey man, y'all 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.840 owe me eighty grand. We sold like shit, like thinking 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.760 like ten fifteen thousand copies like that, okay, that we 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.600 were setting CDs. We was building them at like nine 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:45.960 fifty apiece. Yeah, so that was eighty grand minus present. 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.840 Did you ever get your money from? Never got my 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.359 goddamn money. Never got to let me. And see the 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.720 thing about distribution too. When you're going to look at 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.680 a label situation, set up, whatever record falters, right, it 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:01.800 comes up the top thing. 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.800 That's why they don't mind giving you advances because they 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:05.080 got a line of records coming up. 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.800 That's the whole that's the whole thing about the record industry. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.600 Most cats don't understand. It's about your credibility. So if 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.480 you got four labels that's under one distribution company, somebody 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.040 gonna drop a record in the next few months, and 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:18.959 I mean, I'm gonna get my money back one way 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.040 or another. I don't care who it is. I just 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.600 want my money back. Y'all figure out who y'all gonna 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.000 charge you back to and that's where the ship got 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.919 fucked up at. So now they were supposed to drop 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.000 some ship to offset our ship, and we end up going. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.480 We end up falling out after that. So now we 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.399 got struck with it. Then we get stuck with the 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.320 with the pressing bill. So they got hit with the 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.800 pressing bill. You followed me, so they got they got 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.760 hit with the pressing bill. So now my money is 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.000 tied up and they advances, they get struck with the 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.800 pressing bill. So now everybody mad. So who who the who? 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.639 The Egyptian leveling them go get the advance from man 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.439 probably want probably countter for the record distributors. And see here, 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.480 here's here's the bad part about it. He don't know 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.320 what happened because he wasn't running his own label. His 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:05.680 girlfriend was running his label. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:07.280 So she went and got the bread. 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.200 She went and got the bread, and then we sat 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.240 down a few years later, this bitch was stealing from everybody. 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.119 It's always a motherfucker stealing. And that's what I was 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.280 gonna say, because I know in these movies they always 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.920 show it's a big bad white man somewhere stealing some shit, 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.159 right And I said, man, it seemed like the brothers 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.560 was doing niggas worse than worse than the motherfucking people. 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.359 We all finally sat down and came you know, niggas. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.119 For a while, was like, hot, dude, you owe me this. 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.359 This niggas looking at me crazy, I'm nigga John crazy. 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.080 Everybody looking at everybody crazy, And I'm like, well, what 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.680 the fuck. So after after the niggas calmed down and 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.240 had a conversation when they were man, well what about 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.480 this right here? Oh man, I did this. I thought this, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.040 I thought that, what the fuck this? By this time, 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.920 him and the old girl that broke up, she gone, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.480 And then I found out for another part to mind about, 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.720 because here's the here's the crazy part about it. I 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.480 ain't tell you all this shit. We had me and 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.120 me and my party Charles. We had got a deal 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.480 for the Coptain's for the coptain compilation with uh. I 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.399 think it was UH, CBS or Sony one of them too. 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.080 I tell you the guy's name. The name is Tobrey Emric. 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.879 He one of the biggest motherfucking movie executives right now 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.960 in the fucking country. Name is Toby Emrick. Okay, he 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.960 left left the record division, went to the movie division. 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.320 He came to La met with me and Charles at 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.439 the Beverly Hills Hotel. True story. I never told her. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.080 I ain't told this one no t Dusty yet and 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.560 me and Charles we wrote him down there and we said, 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.560 all right, man, anything past seventy five thousand, we're gonna 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.200 sell this motherfucker. Cash everybody out. 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:44.720 We're good. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.240 Get down there. He was in a hurry. Look what 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.399 the fellas. I heard your product. I like what you 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:50.960 guys did. 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:52.000 Uh. 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.639 We offered a hundred thousand. We kicked the other on 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.600 the table like bitches talking out the smiles. Shit, hundred thousand, Okay, cool? 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.280 Were good? Right Monday morning, I wanna call you Monday 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.040 morning through the paperwork. I'm there, bright and early Monday morning. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.479 Charles had a dinner's appointment that day. So I'm there 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.760 at eight thirty waiting on the phone ring. I'm waiting 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.960 for the phone to ring. Twelve o'clock. The phone ain't 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.960 ring three o'clock. The phone there ring. Charles is there, 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.639 and what happened, I don't know, man, I don't know. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.560 Now put a pin right there. We never heard from 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.560 CBS again. Right, never heard from his cats again, never. 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:31.040 Heard from him. 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.479 My partner who I'm still in business with, right here 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.040 this day. At that time, he was answering the phone 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.359 for us at the West Coast, and he didn't know 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.719 what was going on. So I said, man, I never 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.720 forget that time we had to dial with CBS. Man, 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:52.480 it was for comporting compilation album and CBS just flaked out. No, no, no, no, 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.280 I'm sorry. I back up, back up, back up, I'm sorry, 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.159 I said, Yeah, man, I saw I saw Lisa one 0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:00.000 day at the at the Spectrum Place in pam mcay. 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.919 She walked in and smiled real funny, Hey Liza, how 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.080 you doing, And all of a sudden she had like 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.960 she left her while in the car, and I said, 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.720 I thought that was crazy. He said, she probably thought 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.440 she's gonna kick her ass. Why I'm gonna kick her ass? 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.280 Oh man, that's a deal you had for for that 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.119 compilation album. She told Sylvia Row you didn't want it, 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.600 you changed your mind. This cost me one hundred thousand 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.560 dollars man for rich Bill talked, she went up there 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:27.879 and told the people that she didn't want to The 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.080 people did call that day. He what he told me 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.680 was He says, you get any calls for Alonzo or 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:40.399 Charles sent him to me. Okay, So when the phone call, 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.760 he didn't know what was going on. They called looking 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.240 for me. He sent the call to her. So then 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.280 she says, oh, uh, we had they had a conversation, 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.080 they had a meeting, and they changed their mind. She 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.600 thought it was funny and cute. So we was trying 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.680 to figure out what happened to the phone call because 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.560 she didn't want spot of mind. That was trained up 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.280 a fucking old school hater ade bottom line. So when 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.440 she saw me in Spectrum, she thought I was gonna 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:05.960 kick her ass. I didn't know she had done what 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.600 she had done yet. She knew what she had did, 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:11.600 but she didn't know I didn't know that. I didn't 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:12.919 know what she had done. So it wasn't ntil later 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.479 on we had the conversation till the all fucking came 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:19.680 around three sixty. Why would she do some shit like that? 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:20.520 Dude? 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.199 You have to understand back then, it was we were 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:27.560 very competitive, man. It was shady, dudeh was real, especially 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.280 in the record business. So everybody because you gotta understand, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:36.320 even though uh we was dann promoters I'm still wrecking Crew, 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.639 He's still unking jam varm Me and that motherfucking few nigga. 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.800 It just you just kate. We couldn't get over that shit. 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.439 For for Recond Crew to get a hit for one 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:51.120 hundred thousand was gonna offset the balance of power back then. 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:53.760 And that's what it comes back, and that's what it 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.440 boiled down to. Okay, And as far as I can think, 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.479 that was just some old school I can fuck over 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.920 this nigga because we had had some issues back in 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.360 the day, man that you wouldn't understand. You wouldn't believe, dude. 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.040 What was the biggest issues was the gangsterism get involved? 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.440 Like what was it? I kicked? I kicked it. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.840 I had to kick a lot of ass back of 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.200 the day as a DJ cause nigga didn't want to 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.840 pay you. Sometime in the record industry, we didn't get 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.040 that much, uh, that much gangsterism in the beginning. Now 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.359 I had to go to Macolda and put a gangster 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.199 mash down on his ass the ship ice Cube did 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.399 in the movie. He got that from me. I did 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.760 that to Macolda first, but I made te it off 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.600 the lights. That motherfucker. He called them all back in. 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.840 He had like twenty thousand, and he had like twenty 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.560 thousand copies in the warehouse. I said, it was like 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.520 on Monday. I said, hey, man, I'm gonna come back 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.639 and get them records. On went on Thursday, all right, 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.280 no problem. I had to fall back to Maccolda on 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.040 Tuesday half a more, gone, what the fuck my records 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.320 at man? Oh, I had to had to crush him 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:56.760 up because they have no space. 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.080 Broke your record? No, no, that's he said. Back door. 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.919 The motherfucker his secretary, white girl. You know we can 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.479 break her off from time to time. She keep us 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.080 up on the lady school. From that motherfucker. Your records, 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.959 he sent me an She said, if I called her back, 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.639 your records are on Pico and so and so Street. 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.440 Sure enough, I pulled up. They unloaded my shit. So 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.200 I went back to Maccola the next day, Unknown called 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.600 him off. I said, hey, I don't know what you did. 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.600 The lonzo. That motherfucker is coming to kick your ass down. 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.440 I walked in that motherfucker, I grabbed this goddamn golf 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.159 club and I started tearing this office up. That motherfucker 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.400 started throwing me some motherfucker stacks of money. Tell me 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:39.640 about seventy five hundred dollars. 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:40.600 Yeah. 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.160 Yes, I went back to the rest of the the 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:44.960 next day and got the rest of my goddamn records. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:46.800 No bullshit. 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.680 Let me ask you this, man, because you've been depicted 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.920 in a lot of movies now, and that's all I 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.480 can go off because I wasn't there back then. The 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.400 way they paint your character in these movies, that you 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.320 had a very great dislike hip hop, that you didn't. 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.440 Like it, that's the biggest live of fucking toe man. 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.200 The first motherfucker bringing hip hop actor Los Angeles, I'm 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:12.960 the first one to bring the curtains, blow and run 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:13.720 d MTDLA. 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.680 No, let's say they say he didn't like gangster shit. Nope, 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.840 that's what they're saying. No, understand this, Yeah, that's what 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:22.960 they're saying. Understand this. 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.320 When it came to nw A, my only problem with 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.320 them was the fucking name. Man. 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.160 I'm born in the fifties. I'm sixty six years old. 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.520 When as I grew up as a young man in Compton, 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.600 when I heard somebody call somebody a nigga, it was 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.960 a negative connotation. It was nothing there was not a 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.280 term of endearment. It was not a term of endearment. 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.960 My daddy saw nigga that nigga, Oh my god, that nigga. 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.680 Don't nigga your car up shit like that. That's my 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.920 daddy told me that shit, so I couldn't get with 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.280 the name. Second of all, when they first came out, 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.400 they were not doing gangster rap. They were doing reality rap. 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:08.719 Something here, something to dance to, Panic Zone, Charles Wright's songs. Uh, 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.640 what you doing I'm talking about when they was in jail, 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.760 express yourself. That was that what they was doing where. 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.400 I think the biggest problem me had on the West 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.440 Coast is, man, if people don't realize mostly cats don't 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:26.240 know what the fuck I had to go through to 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.480 get this ship, keep this ship going. I'm not gonna 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.560 take credit for by myself. I can't do that. I 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.920 cannot say he didn't tell you Lonzo did the West 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.400 Coast by herself. That's bullshit. Lonzo had Roger Roger clated 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.120 from Uncle Jam's Army Rest in peaceknown DJ. We three 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:42.640 were three musketeers of this shit. 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:42.880 Man. 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.080 I don't know what they want to do any goddamn 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.080 talking though, and see. 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.480 I know you can't speak for Unknown, and I don't 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:52.720 know that, brother, but if A would have had some 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.560 legal representation, because you weren't even eighteen yet, was no 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.200 and so to Eights Publishing. And I ain't trying to 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.800 hold you account for that. Let me tell you something. 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:13.320 This is what I say when it comes to I 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.640 always tell niggas niggas had to pay their dues. That's 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.160 why I look at it like now I'm fifty two 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:26.120 years old, but I tell every nigga that a lot 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.600 of us had to pay our dues. When it came 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:38.080 to getting into, uh, the music business. I had no 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:44.320 fucking idea how I was gonna actually make a record. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.160 I used to be in the garage at the Homie 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.960 House making TDK tapes like Toddy T talking about the hood, 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.440 rapping about gangster shit and niggas who sold dope and 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.560 the homie who went to the fucking jail last night. 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.120 So by the chance meeting of Lonzo getting on the 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:11.280 Compton compilation is how we met Unknown. A known had 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.360 techno hop a known had. 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.360 Iced tea your dog in the wax you don't quitch 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.960 songs like that, he had keen t he had the 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:28.480 coolest and you better bring a gun. So from there, 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:35.360 Uh going to Lonzo's fucking with Slip. We met Unknown 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.920 Ann had techno hop. I think we put out a 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:47.440 fucking We put out an EP on cassette This is 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.000 Compton and had three songs on it. I think, give 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:55.720 it up, this is Compton. I give up nothing. The 0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:03.200 plan was what Unknown told us was that our record 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.040 was finna come out through West Coast Record Distributors. That's 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.840 what he told us, So I guess at the time, 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:16.120 that's when y'all was going through y'all shit, shit started 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:25.920 changing and then anone ended up meeting I forgot the 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:31.200 dude now, no, no. He ended up meeting the white 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:36.280 dude who worked for par Records. They had par Records 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:42.200 back then. Chu yes, he and through Chuck he met. 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.120 I forgot the dude name. But the dude had ties 0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:52.960 with Orpheus and Capitol, so aknown took them are disscontact. 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.920 He met Charles Huggins and some white dude who worked 0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.880 He ended up working for Morgan Creek. They it was 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.000 a white dude, but they took the dis iss Compton 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.279 EP took it up there and that's how Unknown got 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:14.360 a deal for us. Now I signed a recording I 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.239 ain't honestly, I ain't know shit about publishing. I ain't 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.920 no shit about it. I know nothing about writing your 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.800 own songs and none of that shit. I was fucking seventeen, 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.520 eighteen year old kid from Compton. I wanted to make records. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.640 That was my dream. You get me niggas in the 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.279 hood every day selling dope, getting shot at. So it 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:40.040 was my dream to ooh, fucking you get me, you know, 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.680 to make records. You know, I don't know Texano shit 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:50.719 ik known. I signed a contract with Unknown. It was 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.840 a recording contract. I ain't know nothing about publishing. Unknown 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.680 took a publishing exhibit and he stapled in on the 0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.279 back of the recording contract. That's how he was able 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:05.880 to control the publishing. So but I didn't don't get 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.719 your writers, no, and only gave me nothing. 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.759 People to get. Even if he got the published, he 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:12.760 was simple to get your writers. 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.000 I didn't get anything A known I know. I think 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:23.359 I think Capitol gave orpheus two fifty Charles pocketed one 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.920 sixty just fuck it, and then that left anknone with 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:32.040 ninety grand for us to do the first CMW record 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.439 and I don't know, I might have got about maybe 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:36.560 seventy five hundred. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.040 He gave me fifteen mm at the party gift. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.400 Mm hmm. He gave me about I don't know, maybe 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.680 seventy five. I really couldn't tell you. I was just 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.279 a kid, happy because I had a record condo. Well, 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.000 you got the Suzuki too, right, I got the suzuk. 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:53.200 Yeah, breaks on this motherfucker. 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:59.680 Ye gave me the Suzuki and he gave me about suzuki. Yeah, 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:04.719 he gave me Cindy used to drive, yeah, right, And 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:10.080 I had the Suzuki and Nigga we was mashing Nigga 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:14.680 six a M radio stations at KA and you know, 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.239 I'm writing all the songs slip doing beats. You know, 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:24.720 I think we we did like three records up under Unknown, 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:31.120 under Big Beat before I started going. I'm still living 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:36.239 on Johnson Street. You get me A. No one had 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:41.200 moved in sino A, No one had the German Shepherd dog. 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.680 Germania, Nigga said the dogs. 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:53.279 Hell yeah, so you know, but dog shit at least 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:58.160 about fifteen to twenty grand yeah, custom trade. Yeah, Nigga, 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.240 I'm still living on Johnson Street IVN and Suzuki around 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.279 and so I'm like, I mean, we got into it 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.360 one day because I started going on the road and 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.880 the nigga took a thousand dollars out of my checking 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.000 account because you know, he was cool with the bank. 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.320 He went into my checking account, took a thousand dollars 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.479 out and went bought me a portable DT machine. I said, Nigga, 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.719 I don't need that motherfucker. Shit the fuck I need 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.720 a nigga. I need my money. I don't need ADT machine. 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.160 He was like, nigga, you stupid, you need to And 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:40.160 from that day we fell out and he couldn't even 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.920 go by the debt machine for you. I remember we 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.440 was at the studio. We was at Slips that night, 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.719 and I was pissed off that the nigga had spent 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.600 a thousand dollars in my money. We was over Slips 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.680 getting loaded. You know, we Slipper getting loaded as a motherfucker. 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.799 We had Slips house getting loaded. A known over there too. 0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:06.560 He leave his check book. Me and Slip go through 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.560 his check book. We seen he had just got a 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.799 publishing deal with MCA for like seventy grand and they 0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.960 gave me twenty five hundred dollars. I wrote every fucking 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.880 song on music to drive by on fucking straight, checking 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.480 him on fucking it's a comptant thing. He gave me 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:31.680 twenty five hundred dollars and walked away with sixty whatever 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:37.680 he walked away with, and that's when I said, I 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:42.320 got to give me an attorney, and that's when we 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.560 split the deal, and that's when I finally was able 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:51.200 to break away from Unknown. And I never I never 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.759 tried to sue him. I never tried to do none 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.480 of that shit. I chalked it up as I had 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.560 to pay my fucking dues, you get me. That's why 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.239 I looked at it. I never had any regrets about it. 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:08.760 Other niggas was like, nigga, if I was with you, nigga, 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.840 we would have went at that, nigga. But I looked 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:17.480 at it as how else would I would have gotten 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:23.640 a business? You feel mesion. So that's what I looked 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:27.279 at it as. And I tell every nigga, I had 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.399 to pay my dues. And if that's what you want 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.200 to chalk it up, is paying my dues, because in 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.320 the end of it, I'm here right now. My career 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.600 went you know it went cool. I didn't hit fucking 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.600 I didn't hit Dre and Snoop status. But like I 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.359 tell niggas every day, I'm comfortable where I'm where I'm at. 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.279 You feel me. I don't have no regrets at all. 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.640 You know what, Dude, I can respect that. Man. I 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.000 tell Cash all the time. Man, you should have did nothing. 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:56.440 That ain't what I do. Man. 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.919 You know, it's just certain shit I don't do. Okay, 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.239 when you had to understand it, going to going going 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.120 back to hip hop for a minute. Hip hop at 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:10.839 one point in time was just like house party versus 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.800 boys in the hood, just like that, like watching you're 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.279 watching house party on one channel. Did you turn your 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.400 channel and there's boys in the hood. That's how this 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.000 ship changed. Niggas went from gunny haircuts and dancing around 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.560 and hopping around and ship to shoot that motherfuckers just 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.840 like that craping dude, And that's how it flipped up. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.520 Crack changed everything. I didn't see the major effect on 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.640 it because by time, the EVE didn't feel it because 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.120 we was niggas were still starting powder cocaine at the EVE. 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.120 That was that was the drug, powder cocaine, and we shared. 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.120 We couldn't come up to the Okay Man. 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.279 That was the drugs. And then by the time I 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.200 got to do those, my crowd got younger. So I 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:54.840 didn't see a lot of drugs that plust I had 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.120 the police at the front door. I didn't see a 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.600 lot of drugs. My neighborhood changed where I grew up 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.200 at cham because Castle was selling pills. Now they started 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.399 they were selling weed. But now they starting to sell 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:08.840 crack and ship started changing real hard in like the 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.840 late eighties early nineties. 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.160 Yeah, I went back to the Eve again, man, and 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.320 I went back to the even the nineties. Man, I 0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.879 went to come up to the Eve, I was like, boy, 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.880 it's treacherous around Okay that went as the dog was. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:23.640 That bad man. 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.799 When I came back in the nineties, he was rough 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:26.000 for me. 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.200 Man. That neighborhood around. 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:32.399 First opened the Eve up and seventy nine, I wore 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.400 a suit to work every day because I because I 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.719 had to, because I wanted to. That was the vibe 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.120 of the Eve. When I came back in ninety two, 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.439 Nigga had to wear genis and tennis shoes everyday because 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.200 Nigga was fighting. Man. It wasn't even like. It wasn't 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.799 even the party no more. It was wait to see 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.600 how many niggas gonna get fight, how men niggas gonna 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.800 fight tonight. I couldn't even sit in the office. I 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.320 used to be telling me, I go to my office, 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.000 have me a girl back. Should be people be listening 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.759 to this ship. I'll be getting caught up on this ship. 0:41:56.120 --> 0:42:00.360 But uh, i'd had company, and now I got to 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.000 walk the floor like my security guards. Man, I'm wearing 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.680 I went dressed like I am right. He was a whole. 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.400 It was a whole, different atole different. 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.560 Man, motherucking av line and Elsi Dondo. You got your 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.320 Giama village down the street. You got Athens Park, you 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:22.480 got the motherfucking you can senten of your one five. 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:25.920 Garden peas. 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.480 Man, It's surrounded by nothing but the blood homies, so 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.640 you all ain't ever perform up there. Man. I think 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.840 I went up to the eve one time, man, and 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.600 we snuck up in there. That place was treacherous. Man. 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.480 If you if you came with my brother, my brother 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:45.080 was a shotgun, you was all right. My brother ran 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.560 with the shotguns, but he also lived. He went to 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.120 school of Guardena where he lived with my mama. My 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.600 daddy had the patent guard diener so he would hang 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.200 with the bloods during the evening time, but go to 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.520 school with the crips and shotguns. But my daddy had 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.759 a line in the service. We cut lines under three 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.640 and one three five, So I knew everybody. And because 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.399 I never gang bang, I got a music pass because 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.920 I'm the DJ. I said, DJ cool, he cool, he 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.000 you know, that was my thing. That's why I never 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.400 tripped on shit like that, because I had the music 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:21.200 and I was doing parties in nineteen seventy six everywhere 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.680 watch Compton Gardena essays. UH didn't make no damn difference. 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.160 So the music was always my past. But when I 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.560 got to the Eve, I got a different kind of pass. 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.640 Going to that loneso spy. He don't really gang bang, 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.800 but everybody knew my and they knew where it was, 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.080 so that they came respectful when they did come, even 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.440 like Snake Puppy from La Dream Team. He told he 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.880 was telling me, told me many a time. Him and 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.800 the Egyptian lover he used to walk to that motherfucker 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.000 from UH. They lived on sixty something. They would walk 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.360 through the eve and didn't didn't trip. When Snake Puppy 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.239 lived in Watts Egypt, lived across town someplace, they would 0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.759 walk sixty blocks in the eve because the eve said, 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.400 oh until five o'clock in the morning. It wasn't always 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.880 fucked up. It got fucked It didn't have its issues. 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.320 Don't get me angle sitting sit here, live about nothing. 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.280 We did have our issue. We had our bad nights. Okay. 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.880 Sometimes if turn people got outnumbered, it go down. But 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.160 for the most part, in the early days, it was 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.160 a piece of cake. It didn't get really rough. Taill 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.520 the ship man right before I got ready to shut 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:24.960 it down. After it shit started happening. 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:26.799 Yeah, you know, I want to go back to something 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.480 real quick. You the one your company initially put the 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.600 Compton compilation out, correct. Yeah, So that means that those 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.399 groups on that compilation, if a deal was to rise 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:39.839 out of it the summer, it seemed like they would 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:40.360 have went through you. 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:41.920 They did. 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:48.040 Com just most wanted went through Unknown, but another c 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.480 went through My boy Charles hit a single deal with 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:58.880 her went through PG thirteen went to Unknown also, So 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.480 it was my pot he was. He was a part 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.200 of West Coast, but the groups didn't come to West Coast. 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.359 You followed me by the time we started having issues, 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.080 so I didn't want Why. 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:14.319 Did you feel like you didn't have first DIBs at 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.839 trying to get those groups deals since all of them 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.120 came through Crew Cut. 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.719 You know what, I've always been a little bit different minded, man, 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.839 because at that time, new hip hop was so new. 0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.600 I got the studio, I'm doing clubs. I'm getting the 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.960 asks all the time I've been here. You know, give 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.080 me something, give me something, go, give me something. Go. 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:36.040 That was always my attitude. Okay. I was always on 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.480 a different situation. I provide the platforms. I didn't really 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.360 want to be nobody's manager. I'm not a producer. I 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.759 don't make beats. And Jerry Hiller was with you at first. 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:45.880 Jerry Hiller was with me first. I don't make beats 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.440 our own studios, our own nightclubs, our own platforms. I 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:53.440 give people the shots. Okay, I provide an opportunity. So 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.040 if I give you opportunity and somebody says, hey, man, 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:57.800 one of my boys, like right even right now, I 0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.480 ain't made a record of dad in the thirty five years, Man, 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.680 I got this dude, I got, I got a rapper 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.680 or I got when I got this, I bake beats. 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.840 I still hook people together right to this day. I 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:08.880 get my money now, I do a little bit different, 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.000 but I hooked people up. That's what I've That's what 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:15.440 I've always done. I'm not about an artist. I've made records, 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.680 I write songs, but I'm not a fucking artist, per se. 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.960 I ain't you know, nigga put me against a thousand motherfuckers. 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.879 I'm still gonna be last when it come to rapper. 0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:24.759 But when it come to motherfucker, they put niggas on. 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.360 Anybody put more niggas on to me. 0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.400 Let me ask you this, man, did Jerry ever come 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.799 to you because you looked them up with easy in them, right, sir? 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:33.560 Did he ever straighten you out for that? 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:34.120 Hell no? 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.600 Let me ask you this. And you know I'm trying 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.120 to say that. Ain't no other way. That's what Jerry 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.400 Hillar a crook, Jerry Hillo. It depends on how you 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.440 want to how you define crook. I wouldn't call him 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.279 a crook, but he was smart. He knew what he 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.799 was dealing with and he knew like, uhnn. 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.480 Well, I'm gonna say people other people did take advantage 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.560 of certain people exactly. That's why I've always I always 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.800 felt that he did not want me too close to 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:00.400 the fellas. 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:01.080 Understand this. 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.560 I'm in business at nineteen DJ and already I got 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.399 my first club at twenty two. I know how to count, 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.360 I know twenty percent equals. And Jerry had already experienced 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.359 my business acumen when we got our CBS deal. Because 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.800 when I got my CBS deal, we got head hunted 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.799 from by Larket Arnold, Larkin Arnold's big time producer bad 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.080 Boy from uh He the one discovered Frankie Beverly and 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.640 Maze brought Marvin Gay over to CBS, the whole nine yards. 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.840 So we got head hunted from a Coola to go 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:37.560 to CBS Sony. And when it came time to do 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.040 the deal, Jerry didn't get me the deal. I got 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.600 my own damn deal. So now come time and do 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:46.920 the paperwork. I don't have a manager. Jerry wants to 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.759 be my manager. I called my lawyer. I said, Hey, 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.680 my name is kN Claven still around. I said, Ken, 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.879 do I need a manager for this project? He said, 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.480 for what you need a manager for? I said, well, 0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.520 don't you need a manager to do Yourn said, No, 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.080 I'm gonna do the negotiations. All your manager gonna do 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.319 is call you and tell you what I said. Then 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.080 you're gonna say yes or no. He gonna call me 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.279 and tell me yes or no. Okay, so cut out 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.759 the middle man, buy your stuff a cell phone and 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.879 be ready to answer the phone. That's how I learned 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.680 the game. Because they wouldn't given record music business lessons 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.839 back then. Hell, they wasn't given lessons out then. Okay, 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.520 what no YouTube was, no no books, wasn't no music universities. 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.400 So if you didn't know somebody that was gonna put 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.000 you up on some game, you wasn't gonna get none. 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.040 So he charged me. I think it was like seventy 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.360 five hundred dollars. Do do the negotiations with the with Sony. 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.640 I'm learning the game. He explained this shit to me. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.080 As I'm going I'm getting bill for it. But it's 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.480 the best lesson I ever got. You get bill for college, 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.080 you see what I'm saying. So as this shit is 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.480 going on, I'm learning the game. So now Jerry realized 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.200 that this motherfucker's pretty smart. He don't need. 0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:54.279 He don't need me. 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.160 So I saved the crew twenty grand by doing the 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.800 deal myself, because if we had, if we had to 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.520 deal deal with Jerry, we had to give Jerry twenty 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.080 thousand plus get a lawyer seven thousand. That's twenty seven 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.280 thousand off of one hundred. Now we got a seventy 0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:11.840 thousand dollar budget to work with because I did the 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.400 deal with myself instead of having seventy five hundred, Now 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.000 we got ninety seven thousand. 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:16.080 To work with. 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.680 Makes sense to me, make a big difference. They make 0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.960 a bigg ass difference. And I bought my own studio. 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.160 I bought my own demo studio, made all my beasts 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.080 at the pad first, then went to the big studio 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.320 and recorded that shit. So now I got all this equipment, 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.279 I got a studio, I got we got twenty grand 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.279 extra to spend to fuck off or whatever. That's what 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.319 we did, fuck it off, Okay. And this is how 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.680 I was always taught to think. So I had a 0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.040 different mindset. I wasn't stuck on being the artist. I 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:49.719 wasn't stuck on being a label on a per se. 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.000 I was just trying. I was trying to get about 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.040 to get us the game as fast as possible. You 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:55.680 were a businessman. I was a businessman, but my only 0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.279 problem was with the music ship and the music but 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.600 shifted being of my business. They got more gangsters, got 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.640 more straight shit. I backed up because that ain't what 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:07.239 I do. I don't want to ask. So you saw 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.080 Sugar and all of them come in. I saw all 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:13.080 them coming in, and my experiences out of Compton as 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.160 a young man growing up realized. I realized, if you 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.080 ain't prepared to kill a motherfucker, leave me alone. 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.239 Okay, I didn't been in. 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.200 Through a lot of shit. Man shot it motherfuckers, and 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.120 I ain't no gangster. I didn't shot it motherfuckers, then 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.200 shot at the whole nine. If that's not that's not 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.120 what I fucking do. So I don't want to go 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.759 back through that ship. So surviving Eve after Dark, surviving 0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:35.000 do though, surviving Skateland, I don't want to be. I 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.400 don't want to be a motherfucking gangster man. I'd have 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.560 done some gangster shit, but that ain't what I that's 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:44.280 that's not my my forefront. I'm like any other motherfucker. 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.000 I nigga. I do what I got to do to survive, 0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:47.320 but that ain't what I do. 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:51.000 You know, seeing you go through your it's funny, man, 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.080 your history kind of parallel what I go through right 0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.640 now because I was one of the first dudes in 0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.200 LA doing podcasts, okay, so I helped the lot of 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.120 people out, really genuinely try to help motherfuckers out. A 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.680 lot of times was losing money, you know, with helping people. 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.960 But it always comes back in the end that you 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:14.239 can never satisfy people. You're never satisfied people. You go 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:15.640 always get blamed for everything. 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:16.279 You know what I'm saying. 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.800 It's definitely a bit should deal with artists. When you 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.799 deal with artists, a lot of times, if they're successful, 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.479 it's all about me. But if you fail, niggas your fault. 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.359 I didn't write that shit. I just well, you didn't 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.720 do this. So people usually wanted to make a scapegoat. 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.360 I know, I didn't want to be nobody es scapegoats. 0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:35.640 I'd rather give you a shot being gonna do your things. 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.400 Good luck, good luck, And that's always been my motherfucking 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:39.359 forte Well. 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.560 I like eights attitude with it all because I always 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.120 feel like if somebody give you an opportunity to change 0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.800 your life. You gotta take the bidder with the suite. Definitely, 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:51.600 they will never be perfect. But I look at it 0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:54.160 like right now, like if Charlemagne called me tomorrow and 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.439 see it. Hey, man, we can't fuck with the show 0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.960 no more. I ain't got nothing bad to say about it. 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.960 That motherfucker do some pretty good money. 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.239 Yeah, it's just people expect, you know, your attitude to 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.359 be different. I don't know. Like I said, i'n't been 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.880 through a lot of other ship and from the situation 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.080 that you know that happened, you know what I'm saying, 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.120 just a couple of weeks ago. I'll be like, Man, 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:25.520 it's it's just another lesson learned, and from from from 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.640 where out in been now. I done been places. Motherfuckers 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:34.120 will never go you give me for I haven't been 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:38.399 around the world. You give me foreign countries and all 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.520 kinds of shit. So I just tell niggas, you know, 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.960 you gotta pay your dues when you gotta pay your 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.360 dues with anything though, you know what I'm saying. So 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:53.400 that's why I never go around and try to, you know, 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:58.040 push that narrative of really just bad mouth and motherfuckers 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.160 like some motherfuckers do try to stay away from the 0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:04.920 negative bullshit. You know, sometimes you might, you know, get 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.320 questioned about certain shit, but in all, in all, I 0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.840 tell a nigga, I wouldn't trade it for nothing, you 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:11.279 get me. 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.879 I think I am crushed about that corny shit though, Well, 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.960 well I'm hurt. I'm hurt, nigga, I'm. 0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:21.560 Listen my opinion because you know what I'm saying. Like 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.840 you said it, though, let me put it in a 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:28.880 different perspective. Our shit was a lot of dance orientated music, 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.920 you get me. We didn't have the you know, like 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.320 you said, the first shit you probably heard when my 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.040 nigga was talking some street shit was Toddy t you 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:44.800 feel me. So a lot of our music was electro, electro, 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:49.000 electro funk. I mean, we had breakdancers, we had pop 0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.799 lockers and shit. So I'll put it in that perspective. 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:59.480 Crew Cut gave us a platform to be able to 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:05.800 put out records because nobody else did that. We I 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.239 was influenced by gangster shit. I don't know why. I mean, 0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.880 I grew up in Compton. I was fucking gang banging 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:14.799 at thirteen, fourteen years old. 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.600 At even at our Lady of Victory was gang banging. 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.600 Yeah, yeah, I think I know about that too. Yeah. 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.160 Even when I went to our Lady of Victory, I 0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.800 was gang banging. I was claiming trag New Park. So 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:29.600 you know, I was just influenced by street shit. And 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.120 you know, and I had a mama who worked every 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.440 day hard, had a father who worked at General Motors 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:40.160 down in Southgate. But I don't know. It was just 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.480 the niggas down the street with the with the hood 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:47.800 rats and the motherfucking slanging dope. And you know, I 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.200 think when I was coming to Yo Crib, my cousin 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.759 gave me my first deuceduce. So we used to come 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:56.520 over there strapped up and forty ounce and smoking weed 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:57.560 and shit like that. 0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:59.920 And I was but they never disrespected me. 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.280 Oh no, no, no, we never disrespected. 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:07.560 Whatever side you rolling with. That's cool. 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.080 We never brought no, I mean, because like it was 0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:13.600 a gang of niggas from different sides. But yeah, we 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.680 got along with everybody up there when we would be there. 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:22.320 We never had no confrontations or nothing. Now, some niggas 0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:26.000 did follow me over there one day, but when I 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.080 pulled up at your spot and they knew it was 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:32.160 your spot, they was like all right, nigga, But yeah, 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.759 it could have been vicious because I mean we was 0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:35.359 gang bang. 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:38.120 And that's why I've always stayed neutral to the ship. 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.080 I know niggas where I live at. Yeah, one side 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.640 is blood, one side is cript. Yeah, I just have 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:47.960 to live in the middle. Okay, both of them know 0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:49.560 me all up, know me? Okay. 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.359 I used to come up one hundred and twenty. If 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.359 and you come up one hundred and twenty, if it'd 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.520 be some niggas see you, nigga, they follow you right 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:59.040 over there. What you doing over here, nigga? And they 0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.040 see where you at, they like, oh, all right then 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:03.319 and pull off. 0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:06.000 Then I want to go back to this Jerry Hiller 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.080 ship real quick, because he was with you first. Right, 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.320 So he never came back and said, you know what, Lonzo, 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:12.319 you hooked me up. 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.920 With this or that. I'm no, he never said he 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:16.719 never did nothing like that. 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:20.320 Man. In fact, when I never get I never get it. 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.680 I never got mad at Jerry. I never I didn't 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:29.920 trimp on him because easy always find something for me 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:31.440 to do. From time to time. I was like the 0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:34.880 layersione for Roofless Records comp The Lason When there was 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:38.000 a problem. I'd always easy drek. Jerry would call me 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:39.800 up here, man, we got some problem, he goes, he 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:41.560 goes Somebodey, go take take care of this for us 0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.160 right quick. You know I ain't mad about that. You know, 0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:48.440 at that time, I was cool, man, I was just cool, 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:53.040 not being caught up in the bullshit. I don't do 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:57.120 bullshit very well, okay, like you like eight, I'm a 0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:01.040 goddamn Gemini. Don't let these smiles and jokes get it 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.880 get you fucked up. Okay, So I didn't want to 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:04.920 put myself in that position. 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:06.000 The one time I. 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:08.440 Met with Should, I had read the problem with Sugar. 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.720 I had an interaction with Sugar. It was like, dude, 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:15.680 I ain't that one. I'm cool, but I ain't that one. 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.680 And we shook hands, walked away from it, left it alone. 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.800 Is Jerry Hiller was one of them casts man that 0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.960 he had a lot of connections. It was a more 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.680 advantageous to be on his good side than his bad side. 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:34.200 Either a vindictive motherfucker. He could be very vindictive, okay, 0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.000 And if I needed something, I can call him up. 0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:39.360 He can give me a referral connection. Blah blah blah. 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.400 When I had turned off lights even though he wasn't 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.120 my manager. Oh yeah, he wasn't my manager. We went 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.400 around and just shopped the deal, okay. Or when it 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:51.000 came to easing them, I didn't think that was gonna fly, Doc, 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:53.400 because Jerry hit me up a few days after that 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:57.120 situation went down and he asked me, says, Lonzo, how 0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.640 does a Jewish man from the valley within a group 0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:05.880 from Compton called Nigga's attitudes? And I told him very carefully, 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.600 and I didn't think the relationship was gonna work. I 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.440 swear to god, I didn't. Because Jerry was used to 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:18.160 dealing with me Egypt and Rudy and some other folks. 0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:22.360 Easy was a totally different situation. Easy carried his money 0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.040 in his sock. Easy would have a fucking look like 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:26.960 he had an anchor bracelet on sometime. He ever swearched 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.480 money in his fucking sock, paid in cash, everything. And 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:34.320 once Jerry realized that he had something that was workable, 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:38.240 I felt that he may have taken advantage of them. 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.200 Because understand this, Jerry always and this time I learned 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.280 from him. I never got sued. I never got sued. 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.320 If I'm ana crook, well, why nobody ever sued me, 0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.520 simply because once you signed the contract, nigga, you're great 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.840 to that shit. That's the fucking deal. You can't go 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:54.840 to the judge crying now because you didn't need the 0:58:54.880 --> 0:59:00.520 goddamn contract. So when I talked to Yeller about the situation, 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:02.960 he's probably the main what I say in contact with 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.840 you know, they got he got some money, but nobody 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.560 got what they deserved. Even Drake didn't get what he 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.840 was deserved. Because when they first formed nw A, it 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:17.200 was supposed to be a partnership. Okay, it was formed 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.400 in my living room. They got the name and where 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.480 they came up with the name and concept at at 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:26.200 Arabian princiss Pad. But they started talking about the deal 0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:27.680 that my house because I kind of had a little 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.840 input and they were easy. Wanted to start a record label. 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.480 He wasn't gonna be on the label. He wasn't gonna 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.479 be an artist. He wanted to put the money behind 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.560 the project. These people forget about this kind of shit 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:39.320 he was gonna put just like you saw in the 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:43.160 movie him just wanted to be a label owner. HBO 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.880 the gout Homeboys only coming to the path. They happened 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.560 in my house for real, And so them niggas really 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:50.560 told Ray that shit was girl. They didn't. They didn't 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.040 like this shit. They was from New York, they don't. 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.920 The cars didn't hop in New York back then. So 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.600 people forget all this shit. Man, it was a different time. 0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.840 This ship is not. You can't compare today to nineteen 1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:05.160 eighty five eighty six. It was two different worlds. They still, 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:07.600 you know, even n w A, like I said before, 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:10.400 they still had to do records like Something to Dance 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:14.160 To in Panics on which which were produced by Arabian 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.720 Prince that if you put some breathing on the ship, 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.120 it could have been a record crew song just to 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:20.960 get on the radio. Because they hadn't. They hadn't. 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:23.400 It hadn't been in steven A Yeah, transitioned over. 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:26.080 Yet, had transition yet good looking, He had hadn't transition 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:28.800 yet to the gates and ship yet. When Easy wanted 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:31.400 me to get help him, and Easy wanted me to 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:33.560 get him to get him to Greg macause Greg back 1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:37.880 was my guy, Greg me, Greg Mac and Roger Me 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:41.680 and Greg Mac had had a business arrangement. Roger was 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:44.720 our competition. Fuck Roger and Uncle Jam's Army because they 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.040 they was dissing everybody. That was our attitude. Greg was 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.640 bringing me actions, Dudos, ll cool J New Edition, all 1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:54.360 kind of mo every weekend. We asked somebody different at Dudos. 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.840 Because Greg was hooking the shit up. We was making money. 1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:58.360 He was paying our records on the radio, the whole 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:00.520 nine yards. We had a hell of a thing going 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:03.160 on if he played. He had them on Duodos on 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:07.800 Friday and uh fucking Sherman Sherman Square on Saturday. We 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:11.080 was killing that ship and an easy one to get 1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:12.840 in the mix. But he was cussing on the record, 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:15.480 So that's when you started getting all the reverses and 1:01:15.520 --> 1:01:17.200 the beeps and ship. That was the first time it happened. 1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:20.440 Records was a big deal back then. Yes, definitely, Yes, 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:22.960 that was a big deal back then. I even heard 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:24.840 motherfucker saying you can go to jail for that. 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:29.480 Yeah, that was a dude. Look, the scene is straight 1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:33.840 out of Compton when I get on Dre's ass. The 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:38.920 real story behind that was because at Dudos, I'd hire 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:40.480 off through the cops to. 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:41.240 Be my security. 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:46.120 Doodos is right next door to Pyrout like that parking 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:50.040 lot across the goddamn driveway, doodles. Is that the pyrout, 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:53.400 the mecca of all bloods, is right there next to 1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:58.920 the right next door to that. So in order for 1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:01.000 me to make that happen, I had to have some security. 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.200 That was the old man's deal. You gotta have security. 1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.560 I recommend off through the cops. But guess what I 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.760 got a first cousin. My mama's sister's brother, My mama 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.560 and sister's son is on the Compton PD. He ran 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:13.480 the swap. He ran the security for the swap meet. 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:18.360 Reggie Wright Senior was one of his boys. The game detailed, dude. 1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:21.600 So I had him, Huey Taylor, all of them doing 1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:24.120 due security for me. At dudos, I'm giving him one 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:25.920 hundred and twenty five dollars there you had, Reggie, right, 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:29.360 Reggie Wright sor you know what. Reggie Wright Senior was 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:31.600 an important piece of comptent. 1:02:31.840 --> 1:02:32.320 Yeah right. 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:35.480 He was one of the first people that really exercised 1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:37.800 the community police in the work. He wasn't just throwing 1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:40.480 motherfuckers in jail, right. He would talk to motherfuckers. He 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.560 would take your pistol from you. Now whatever, you know, 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:44.840 if you asked some shit, but he wasn't just so 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:46.560 quick to throw a motherfucking jail. 1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.480 So when casts came to Dudos and saw Reggie, oh shit, 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:53.880 this motherfucker know me. Everybody in line. So we had 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:56.280 something that dodos. Me and Greg had something that you 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.840 couldn't fade. You couldn't fade if you wanted to. And 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.360 the shit just blew up. And this is how shit 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:07.720 started developing. But Jerry Heller didn't understand the the all 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:09.640 the different parts that was making this shit happen. So 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:12.240 because I had Greg back, me and me and him 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:15.240 was still tight to this day. I got Dudos and 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:17.640 I got my coola. We gotta try effected. We're making 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:20.440 our own records, we gotta get airplay on the radio, 1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:23.240 and we got a place to uh to perform at. 1:03:23.520 --> 1:03:26.520 So everybody's coming to the niggas is taking their chances 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:30.640 come to Dodo to perform. So that was my that 1:03:30.840 --> 1:03:34.960 was my forte and more over everything which providing platform 1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:37.080 because if I started doing too much management, I can't 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.200 do it. I got to stop and do some other ship. 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:43.360 Now you knowing so much about the music industry, man, 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.320 this changed drastically today with the whole streaming and every 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:50.960 act like that. I saw that snoop recently. It took 1:03:51.040 --> 1:03:53.160 all the death Row stuff. When he acquired the death 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:56.200 Robe alog or whatever, he took it off the streaming 1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:58.360 platform to all the streaming platforms, and he put it 1:03:58.400 --> 1:03:58.720 back up. 1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:01.040 I guess he said to Fine, you know why he 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:06.400 did that. When you, as ship gets on the streeping platforms, 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:10.000 depending on what platform that gets goes onto, you get 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:12.960 an r S S number, r S S feed number. Okay, 1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:16.800 those numbers, if they don't coincide, your money can get 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:18.320 get scattered exactly. 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:18.720 Okay. 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:21.880 So in fact, I'm going through the same ship right now. 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:25.360 My records have been on so many compilations. I'm on MLC, 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:29.760 I'm on Sound Exchange. You got your b and my ship, 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:32.080 and if you don't have the same numbers, you won't 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:34.320 get credit for the ship. So I had to hire 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.840 a publishing manager for the first time to go in, 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:40.160 go to find all my ship, not just record crew, 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:42.120 because I got a catalog. I got two hundred songs. 1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:45.760 With my catalog of other ship, find all my songs, 1:04:46.080 --> 1:04:48.840 make sure make sure they all have the same uh 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:54.840 correct uh rn C coats, and not only for America, 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:59.680 but overseas Canada, England, Japan, all that ship. So that's 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:02.560 the fun job. So I would think Snooper do the 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:04.240 same thing. I'm gonna take all my ship off the 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:07.720 air right now, get all this ship straight and put 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:09.280 it back now it's gonna be corrected. A lot of 1:05:09.320 --> 1:05:11.280 money gonna go to the right people. Oh so he 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:14.880 probably had checks going all all kinds of fact. The 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:18.200 potet's not baby the poet, or you might not get 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:19.840 your money at all. And that was something that was 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:22.440 a problem for me because I had so many songs, 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:24.760 and I think something, it is. 1:05:24.800 --> 1:05:27.760 Me, not ship. I got this. You got so many 1:05:27.880 --> 1:05:30.520 songs and ship, and they got so many different codes 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:32.360 from the old motherfuckers who register. 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:35.480 I got you on Thump Records, which is universal, and 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:38.840 then they thought they all coldesh or youre fucking with Thump. 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:41.360 I did well, Bill, I didn't want to say his name. 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.680 That motherfucker over there, one of the jankies. Motherfuckers. 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:49.520 When you do compilations, if mother I got any kind 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:51.280 of junk on them, your should have end up with 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:52.640 a new code so he can get paid. 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:55.360 So what I'm saying, so like they did with the 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:57.640 physical ship back then they'll put a different borough code. 1:05:57.760 --> 1:05:57.920 Right. 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:01.160 A motherfucker tell you all, man, you did you shipped 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:03.880 out five thousand units? And really he don't shipped out 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:06.360 thirty of them motherfuckers because he don't send ten over 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:08.640 the year up, he don't send another ten in Japan 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:10.720 because I had a thing, man, me and big A 1:06:10.920 --> 1:06:13.480 had a sweet thing going on. I had a hook 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.400 up in Japan, dog with tower records to where they 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:20.120 were buying from me. Cood. I was sending them motherfuckers 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:22.720 two thousand records. Dog, I get my money right then. 1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:25.600 And there Dog, we selling the motherfuckers eight dollars a piece. Dog, 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:27.560 I was distripping and dashing them. 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:27.800 Shit. 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.520 Dog, we was doing that shit dog. And it's a 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:32.840 funny thing. And dash my nigga, he'll tell you. I 1:06:32.960 --> 1:06:35.720 remember it was a holiday, right, and lay usually sending 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:37.320 us our money. It was coming up on Christmas, right, 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:40.240 It's like in December, December like eighteenth for some shit 1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:42.800 like that. She tells me, She says, you know our 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:45.040 banks are closed over here. I'll be able to get 1:06:45.080 --> 1:06:49.040 you the money like two days after Christmas or some 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:52.480 shit like that. Right, So you know, niggas used to 1:06:52.480 --> 1:06:55.560 get their money, cood. So I put dashing them on 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:59.480 the motherfucking email right, you know, so they could see 1:06:59.520 --> 1:07:02.480 it wasn't no ship, me telling y'all you niggas be right. 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:07.720 So they just go back on the motherfucking say bit. 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:12.600 Just shoot the motherfucker. I say, oh my god, oh 1:07:12.760 --> 1:07:13.280 my god. 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:18.120 All that relationship cultivated over the years is just gone. Now. 1:07:18.760 --> 1:07:22.280 She says, no problem, I will send you the money myself. 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.640 She send me the money. Dog, I sent her some 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:27.160 ship a few weeks later, like a one sheet. Didn't 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:29.600 get no response. Dog, that was just that quick. It 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:30.520 was due quick. 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:34.120 People don't understand. You can't take that book, take the street, 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:35.760 ship to the to the to them folks. 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:36.360 They work. 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:39.160 Let's get the ship out of the man. They'll fuck 1:07:39.200 --> 1:07:40.960 with you, but that's gonna be cut your ass off. 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:44.440 Like immediately, like I'm done fucking with you. 1:07:44.760 --> 1:07:48.919 Yes, yeah, man, that's one thing about the recommendness I missed, 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.840 dude right now. I mean when we do certain projects, Man, 1:07:52.880 --> 1:07:55.040 if you had a good an, it wasn't your project. 1:07:55.480 --> 1:07:57.880 If you know what what the spots was, the co 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:00.840 D spots, you can take a hundred seat until I'm 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:03.440 sorry a couple thousand CDs down to a spot pick 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:04.919 up fifteen twenty thousand dollars. 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:08.160 Bro, I had it for a minute, man cash before 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:12.480 dramming them got cracked. I don't want to say too 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:15.560 motherfucker much, but but before dramming them got cracked, Dog, 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:18.680 I was probably doing about Man, we was probably doing 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:21.439 about anywhere from sixty to a buck twenty a month. 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:24.640 My nigga, that's how I like, really, Dog, That's how 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:27.120 I made my bag. That's how I bought my first house. Dog, 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:29.479 That's how I did a lot of shit. Dog put 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:31.880 a son through college with that money. My oldest son 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:34.240 ate college off that money. 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:34.439 Dog. 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:37.240 Because I had a distribution set up around the world. 1:08:37.760 --> 1:08:40.720 I had a company in England called Altered Ego and 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:43.280 started an urban division, so all the shit out of 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.639 the United States from the West Coast, I was distributing 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:48.439 out there outside of my own shit, right, I had 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:51.200 so much stuff going. And the one mistake I made, 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:53.240 Dog was putting it. If I wouldn't have put them 1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:56.120 on that email, cause there's a whole different nigga. Now 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:59.040 that is way different now. You know, back then, there's 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:01.120 a cut of motherfucker. You know, what I'm saying, Bis 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:02.960 where the money at? Give me that, you know what 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:06.559 I'm saying. But it got fucked off that quick. If 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:08.040 I wouldn't put him on that, I'd probably still be 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:08.960 eating with them, motherfucker. 1:09:09.000 --> 1:09:11.479 I had deals with Blue Dolphin and a few other people, man, 1:09:11.680 --> 1:09:13.599 and the same kind of thing. Dude. You just if 1:09:13.640 --> 1:09:16.240 you had a relationship and you dropped some ship, they 1:09:16.320 --> 1:09:18.479 gonna they're gonna order a thousand just to test it out. 1:09:18.680 --> 1:09:19.640 Yeah, that's why it was. 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:22.000 I think my smallest order would be from over there 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:24.400 would probably be anywhere from five hundred to a thousand, 1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:26.760 because that was just them trying some shit out and 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:29.040 it wasn't no coming back. That's what I love about it, 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:32.080 all that shit about returns and shit, because I'm gonna 1:09:32.120 --> 1:09:36.000 tell you that, motherfucker. You know your boy from City Hall, right, 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:38.840 he was good for that. Walk probably still holding on 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:40.200 the motherfucker's reserves up there. 1:09:40.240 --> 1:09:41.120 They had the reserves. 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:47.040 Oh yeah, returns and shit, you'll be a year later, Walk, 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:49.120 When can we settle this? My nigga, ain't no CD's 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:51.200 coming back now? Oh well, I don't know, man, because 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:53.040 they can come back at any time. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:53.679 That's gay. 1:09:53.880 --> 1:09:55.439 It was just a great pier because I remember I 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.519 would be able to go holler at Violet Brown directly. 1:09:57.600 --> 1:09:59.880 She was one of the few buyers that would just 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:03.000 it up and talk to independence anybody because she knew 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:04.680 the power of it. She knew she fucking around to 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:07.160 give some ship. She said, well, you know what, she 1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:10.160 would put motherfuckers in that Lakewood location when it was there, 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:14.040 the Lakewood, the Arsenal Carson, the one by the mall 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:16.760 out there was the big mart Delamo went over there. 1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:18.840 She would try you out in certain ship and she 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:20.720 was good. It was just to me that was the 1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:23.559 gold near ship. The swap meets was always my favorite 1:10:23.640 --> 1:10:26.840 man because, uh, mister Park said, when you when you 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.680 sell her to the to the swap meets, they have 1:10:30.000 --> 1:10:32.200 they got their they got their own little distribution thing. 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:35.040 You only could tell the one dude, wherever you open up, 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:38.000 whoever starts buying from you first, that's the one you 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.040 got to stick with. You try to go to the 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:42.400 sloughsing you finish, get you finish, cancel all your ship. 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:46.880 But they would buy so many, Okay, I mean, mister 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:49.760 Park at long be swap meet, I mean a cop 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:55.479 swap meet Steve Yano, Steve Ye when Steve. When I 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:59.360 met Steve, I was selling bootlegs, okay, and bootlegs was 1:10:59.400 --> 1:11:02.200 like like mega mixes people, you know, we'd mash them 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:05.639 all together, and shit, I thought Steve was FBI because 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:06.840 on them, you know, I thought he was the FBI. 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:08.559 I had never been an Asian dude. YEA gonna put 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:11.720 in the moment he put everybody on Okay. But like 1:11:11.720 --> 1:11:13.120 I said, when I first met him, he was selling 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:14.880 to buy an R and B shit. And I brought 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:17.840 him to the Pad. He met Dre, he met Easy. 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:19.880 They all go to the swap Meet, started mixing it 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:21.840 and cube they used to they make it to swap meet, 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:24.120 and it just made for a hell of a situation. 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:26.120 But I'm gonna say that he would he would buy 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:28.280 so many records for me, and one time I'd have 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:31.360 to make a custom order just for him, as I 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.240 had made so many bootlegs made, it must have been 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:35.080 like fourteen to fifteen of them, so I'd had to 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:36.320 you know, he'd give me an order, I need one 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:38.280 hundred and fifty this. I would literally have to go 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:40.760 down on Friday and make two trips just to get 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.000 his stuff. And then go back to see mister Park 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:46.519 and everybody else. Man then with some good ass times, yes, 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:49.360 and ain't then like some good old steak and ass money. 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:51.479 Used to do nothing like it shit. 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.080 It used to be all green man. I swear man 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:56.200 one time. Man, I remember I made a run all 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.920 the swap meets right. I did a swap meat run 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:01.280 because I used to have had the T shirts and 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:04.120 the motherfucker you know, CD's and shit dog. I made 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:06.200 a swat meat run dog a winner. Saw a few 1:12:06.200 --> 1:12:09.280 of my independent retailers. I came home one Saturday. Man 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:11.640 was probably about twelve thousand dollars, just that quick dog. 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:12.960 He ain't gone about four hours. 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:16.679 I had a spot out in uh and see me valley. 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:21.799 I'd go to this Arab dude. I'd have a truckload 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:23.600 of shit and I had a suburban back then, so 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:26.200 ebend be full, come out to the parking lot, bucle bumper, 1:12:26.240 --> 1:12:29.120 hit the ground, cat, get to the spot, unload the shit, 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:31.599 and he would give me a check and I would 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:33.639 be nervous as fuck. He said, no, no, no, don't 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:35.840 worry about it. Don't worry about it. He called his bank, 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:39.120 tell him I'm coming his bank was in a building 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:42.560 on Beverly Hills on no Cannon drive up on like 1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:46.320 the second or third floor. No sign, says bank, no nothing, 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:48.479 no tailers or nothing, no tailers or nothing. You you know, 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:50.320 you walking through the door, and he says, go to 1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:52.559 the suite right here, and it's a small little bank 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:56.479 and they don't have a plexiglass and shit, they just 1:12:56.560 --> 1:13:00.080 got desk. And he made the phone call. And he 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.439 made the phone call to verify who I was. He says, yet, 1:13:02.479 --> 1:13:03.880 and she gave me a stack of money like it 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.080 wasn't shit, and you just walk out. I mean, it's 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:07.200 it's just so different, man. 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:09.360 Yeah, you knew how I found about them bangs. Dog, 1:13:09.600 --> 1:13:12.280 I got some crazy stories fucking with his music business. 1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:12.479 Dog. 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:16.680 I met a motherfucker dog up in Hollywood Hills one night. Dog, 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:19.960 we had a meeting. Hey, you go with this Hollywood 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:23.080 hell shit. Ain't no weirdshit like, okay, man, no weird 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:24.719 Hollywood hell story. 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:27.320 This ain't no weird shit, ain't no pentagrams or no 1:13:27.400 --> 1:13:27.760 shit like. 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:30.880 Yeah, good, okay. Ship. So I meet with this cat man. 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.559 He actually was one of the co founders of Netflix, 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:36.000 but he had got bought out or whatever. Like that, 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.920 and he would get like a I think he would 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:40.479 get like a two million dollar chick every quarter. 1:13:41.040 --> 1:13:42.320 That was like his thing. Right. 1:13:42.439 --> 1:13:44.880 So but when I went to this dude's house, I 1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:47.000 noticed he had a whole bunch of gang bangers living 1:13:47.120 --> 1:13:49.479 up there. I guess there was his protectors, right, and 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:51.720 they was trying to stop niggas from talking to him. 1:13:52.320 --> 1:13:53.360 You know what I'm saying. They was trying. 1:13:53.439 --> 1:13:55.200 So I go to meeting and then everybody in my 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:57.200 face asked me what I'm doing up there in this net. 1:13:57.280 --> 1:14:01.960 So we meet and talking like that. So it was 1:14:02.040 --> 1:14:02.439 a movie. 1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:04.240 I had a script that he liked. 1:14:04.320 --> 1:14:06.680 Right, dude cut me in check that night, man for 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:10.240 like eighty five thousand dollars, right, he Oh, come back 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:12.920 in another week. I'm gonna have another check for eighty five. 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:14.920 So I'm like, shit, we winning. I go right to 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:18.000 posits that motherfucker and the shit clear. The lady told me, 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:20.760 My Taylor told me, she said, you know, fucking with checks. 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.040 I don't like fucking checks. I always give it to 1:14:23.120 --> 1:14:25.120 my girl. A see if this motherfucker got the funds 1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:29.400 in there. So yeah, she said, funds available. Now, the 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:31.200 nigga that hooked me up with the nigga. I shoot 1:14:31.280 --> 1:14:33.240 him ten just that quick, like here you go, you 1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:35.559 know gone? Now you know this is all you get? 1:14:35.680 --> 1:14:36.160 You know what I mean? 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:38.760 He get his tin or whatever. Dog we get on. 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:42.080 I go to the bank dog like a week later 1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:44.240 for some shit. Dog we about to start shooting a movie. 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:48.320 My bank account balance is like neggative sixty. I say, 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:51.360 what the fuck is a I'm like this, nigga, don't 1:14:51.400 --> 1:14:55.240 put a cancel a cancelation on a motherfucking check. That nigga, 1:14:55.320 --> 1:14:57.240 Glasses Malone. I go to this nigga's house. 1:14:57.280 --> 1:14:57.559 He don't. 1:14:57.600 --> 1:15:00.360 He ain't ask from the door. Them niggas is there, Like, man, 1:15:00.400 --> 1:15:02.040 told you should have went through us. Man, he'd be 1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:05.920 doing shit like that, right, So it's a broad there. 1:15:06.000 --> 1:15:06.160 Dog. 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:08.679 He buying motherfucker's cars and all kind of shit. 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:08.880 Right. 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:10.919 I go up there, man, I finally catch the motherfucker, 1:15:10.960 --> 1:15:13.680 Me and Glasses Malone. He can verify this story. We 1:15:13.800 --> 1:15:16.320 waded outside the motherfucking crib. I'm in one of the glasses. 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:18.439 He had this station wagon cause I ain't want the 1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:20.040 nigga to see my truck or nothing like that. 1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:20.800 We catch him. 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:25.800 Glasses jump off the nigga, cauz, we need that bread, right, 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:28.400 so we catch the motherfucker. I grabbed the nigga, I. 1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:30.680 Put him my car. I said, nigga, we gonna go 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:31.840 get that motherfucker money. 1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:32.040 Now. 1:15:33.160 --> 1:15:36.640 This nigga took me to three or four different motherfucking ATMs. 1:15:36.680 --> 1:15:39.599 We went to one ATM cause he had a lot 1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:41.880 of different accounts, right, and I didn't. That's when I 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:43.800 found out a nigga get as much money as they 1:15:43.840 --> 1:15:46.720 want to from ATM. He give me five thousand from 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:48.960 that motherfucker. We going to banks. The last bank we 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:51.759 went to was this bank. Dog like you talk about. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:53.599 We go up and that motherfucker ain't no tailor's day. 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:55.120 I thought this nigga was gonna call the police and 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:55.479 some shit. 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:55.680 Though. 1:15:55.720 --> 1:15:57.599 I thought we was gonna he's gonna call the police. 1:15:58.520 --> 1:15:59.960 He goes up in there. He give me the rest 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:02.600 to the motherfucking money man. But I don't fuck with 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:06.000 checks at all, dog, because of that ship. Don't fuck 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:08.920 with him at all. My last check I took on 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:12.519 the road. That motherfucker still bounce. Oh, Dog, you can't 1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:14.160 fuck with him because that's what I found out. What 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.400 he did was he had the money. But if I 1:16:16.520 --> 1:16:18.559 give you a check to date, my nigga, you can 1:16:18.880 --> 1:16:20.400 cancelor check two months from now. 1:16:20.720 --> 1:16:21.559 Whenever you want to. 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:25.959 Motherfucker cancelor check a wire, they can reverse that motherfucker 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:26.720 whatever to try to. 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:28.960 But it's only so long. You can't reverse a wire. 1:16:28.960 --> 1:16:31.040 If I send you some money today, I can't go 1:16:31.160 --> 1:16:34.920 back two months from now and say, hey, man, I 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:36.560 want my money back. You know what I'm saying. You 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:38.880 just can't do that shit dog. Well, this is what 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:40.479 I want to ask you. When to come to the 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.080 frooking shit and everything? Man, when is the last time 1:16:44.200 --> 1:16:48.479 you talked to Unknown two days ago? You think he 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:49.200 can come on the show. 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:54.160 No, No, he's will not do interviews. No, I had 1:16:54.200 --> 1:16:57.559 a podcast that he was on. He said, he said 1:16:57.560 --> 1:16:59.560 behind the camera the microphone. He will not come on 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:05.280 do an interview. He's never Yeah, he's never done. We done, 1:17:05.360 --> 1:17:06.240 We did two, we did. 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:06.519 Uh. 1:17:06.840 --> 1:17:12.000 We did one podcast together for Red Bull. And only 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:13.960 reason why he did that one because it was no cameras. 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:19.720 What is he doing? Is he still music associated? Put 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:21.800 jumper cables on my nuts right now? I couldn't tell 1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:24.320 you if you shocked the ship out of my nuts 1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:24.960 I couldn't tell you. 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:28.679 We would love to have you come on the show man. 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:34.639 This is your personal invitations. Ain't nobody the loan man. 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:37.880 Some niggas, some niggas just be at a peace man, 1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:42.640 whatever it be. Can my just at least get some acknowledgement. 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:45.439 You know what I want to tell you about this 1:17:45.600 --> 1:17:48.919 nigga is still okay unknown. 1:17:49.640 --> 1:17:53.360 I will say this man, when y'all first, when we 1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:57.400 first signed y'all, me and him together. I know this 1:17:57.479 --> 1:17:59.600 happened because I did it with him. We had a 1:17:59.680 --> 1:18:02.400 little little cassette and at three at little three songs, 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:06.920 Yeah yeah, we would roll through Compton, through different hoods 1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:09.679 and get that cassette. That's how you promote the records 1:18:09.680 --> 1:18:12.719 back there. He didn't know where to go. I ain't 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:15.280 getting paid on this ship. I ain't got my little change, okay, 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:17.200 and he like Ben, come with me, come with me. 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:18.880 So me and him would roll up and the cast 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:21.479 are always grabbed the waistbands and shiit with y'all. Nigga, 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:22.200 what's out? What's out? 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:22.400 Man? 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:25.080 Hold on them music, motherfucker music. It's like here, nigga, 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:28.120 take it. And that's how we got the comp most 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:33.040 wanted thing promoted about Compton doing going going hood the 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:36.920 hood or the wather. We could go to, yeah, hood 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:38.559 the hood, putting this shit in there. 1:18:38.640 --> 1:18:40.800 We did the same ship and do we. 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:44.720 Niggas was hitting their hitting their waistbands on us multiple times. Hell, 1:18:44.800 --> 1:18:46.120 old man, calm down, doctor. 1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:49.120 I had a box of them tapes and I would 1:18:49.240 --> 1:18:52.719 just roll through the hood just giving them out, giving 1:18:52.760 --> 1:18:53.160 them out. 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:57.479 Yeah, just giving them motherfuckers away. Ship eight y'all. Damn 1:18:57.560 --> 1:18:59.240 there man. You know I was talking to Chill one 1:18:59.320 --> 1:19:00.360 day he said, yore, damn. 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:08.240 It wound up on death Row, the stories of death Row, 1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:10.800 and you know, like you said, you would have to 1:19:10.920 --> 1:19:15.240 have Slipping Unknown tell you about those death Row days. Uh. 1:19:17.240 --> 1:19:20.760 I know that we all sat up at one time 1:19:21.760 --> 1:19:26.680 and a known told us that he was fucking with 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:31.519 sugaring them and that they was finished started label and 1:19:31.680 --> 1:19:34.120 that they was looking for a name for it. I 1:19:34.200 --> 1:19:37.160 think we came up with death Row sitting up at 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:44.080 Hamburger Hamlet one night. And I don't know how they 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:47.679 ended up with it, because we it was a total different. 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:51.280 It was d E f Row. Remember they had the 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:54.760 black coats and the good Fellow coats and all of that. Yeah, 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:58.840 so like jam like death Jam. That's where we got 1:19:58.880 --> 1:19:59.200 it from. 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:02.360 And I thought I heard that was a good ass name. Yeah, 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:06.840 and then Sug. According to Yes, Sugar bought it from 1:20:06.880 --> 1:20:09.640 him and Jackson's death Row. They bought it so they 1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:10.240 wouldn't do it. 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.599 So Unknown sold some shit that he didn't even think of. Well, 1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:16.280 we all thought of it. We were all at the 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:19.720 table when we came because Unknown said that they were 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:23.360 he had hooked up with Dre and Shug and they 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:25.479 was finished try to you know, they were starting the 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:28.439 label and they were looking for it. So Unknone was like, 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:32.120 you know, let's think of some names, because we as 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:36.080 compt as most wanted. As the time, I don't know 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:39.240 if we had our deal. You know, probably was getting 1:20:39.280 --> 1:20:41.760 ready to play out with Orpheus or whatever. 1:20:42.600 --> 1:20:43.640 The studio with that black guy. 1:20:44.760 --> 1:20:49.120 Something alone came back with the black guy. Yeah, that 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:54.160 was because he had took I think he had took 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:58.280 money from Shug to start working on tracks, and you know, 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:05.000 most of the time Slipped did a lot of the tracks. Yeah, okay, 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:10.879 so he took money from Sug to work on tracks 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:15.240 for I think the Convicts were supposed to be the 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:22.680 first group, but then we were in the middle of 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:27.040 working on music to drive by, So that was his 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:31.439 excuse for when he had to go up to Death 1:21:31.600 --> 1:21:36.599 Row and shug like Nigga with my beats. Oh well, 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:41.240 I'm working on Conca's most wanted record right now. So yeah, 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:43.960 but you took my money and that's how he got 1:21:44.040 --> 1:21:47.519 the black eye. That's that's apparently what I heard. 1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:52.560 It was Wrecking Crew. People always associated us together. I 1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:56.400 thought I forgot what it was. What his attorney's name, 1:21:56.880 --> 1:22:02.479 he's attorney for uh for did Griffy? He says, the 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:04.760 record shug beat the record crew. No, no, no, no, 1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:08.000 no no no no, that was unknown. Yes, this is 1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:11.439 why I didn't fuck with that ship, because I don't. 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:15.880 I don't respond well to that kind of shit. I've 1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:19.360 been there before. I know the simple ship can turn 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:23.240 into a life or death situation. Definitely, that's serious for me. Okay, 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.080 that's why Nigga tap out, not because I'm a punk. 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:27.280 I don't need the headache. 1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:32.000 All money ain't good money like that. You know, you 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:35.640 gotta learn how to you know, I'm already making some 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:39.599 decent money over here. You know. He he was making 1:22:39.720 --> 1:22:42.920 decent money with you know, the conscience most wanted deal. 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:48.680 But you know, sometimes man, that it started looking a 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.439 little better, you know what I'm saying. So he went 1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:54.559 over there. You know, he took money from from Sugar 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:57.400 to do beats. And then most of the time, like 1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.839 I said, Slip was doing a lot of the production. 1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:05.120 So Slip had his hands full producing Comptor's Most Wanted 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:10.320 music to Drive by Anne produced, but you know he 1:23:10.600 --> 1:23:13.600 was more the you know, hey, Slip, I'm gonna go 1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:15.680 get us this bread. I'm gonna go get us this 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:19.160 you know, the deal, these beats for Sug. And then 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:22.640 Anne was at the crib, you know, and chilling with 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:26.479 the dog and Cindy and hey, you know it when 1:23:26.560 --> 1:23:29.320 Sug probably caught him up there, like, man, where my 1:23:29.479 --> 1:23:33.160 beats at? And then Nigga told me the story. They 1:23:33.200 --> 1:23:36.800 said he called him into that room and he was like, man, 1:23:36.960 --> 1:23:38.760 you know, I think y'all don't know. We gave you 1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:42.920 about twenty twenty five grand. Where's my beats? He said, Well, 1:23:43.000 --> 1:23:47.599 you know, we busy working on comptors Most Wanted. Shug said, Man, 1:23:47.640 --> 1:23:50.519 don't give a fuck about Bompton's most Wanted. You know 1:23:50.600 --> 1:23:54.160 what I'm saying, Where my beats, you know, and and 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:58.200 they took off on him boot boom boom boom. Yeah, 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:00.240 cause he came up to he came over with the 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:04.120 slips the studio and we was like, why you got 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:07.120 sunglasses on and it's night time, nigga, and you went 1:24:07.120 --> 1:24:10.280 inside the studio. It's dark as fuck is here. And 1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:12.960 I think he took the glasses off. And we was like, 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:16.360 what the fuck happened to you my studio? I said, 1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:21.120 think what happened? Wrong place, wrong time? Yeah? Yeah, what 1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:25.599 happened that red wrong? That was That was the story. 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:27.880 She ain't gotta feel bad, he ain't doingly nigga to 1:24:27.920 --> 1:24:29.880 kick some black ass coming about that motherfucker. 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:32.000 Now it is a bunch, Yeah, I heard it was 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:34.479 a gang of niggas got their asses whooped up at 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:36.880 that at that at that office, bunch of ass. Who 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:40.080 was going on? Is the worth of haffle? Oh? 1:24:40.200 --> 1:24:42.840 But you remember Happy for remember had with the one 1:24:42.920 --> 1:24:45.439 produced What was the manager name? I forget Happy's last 1:24:45.479 --> 1:24:45.960 name that you know? 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:49.080 Happy? No, it was a kid. 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:52.240 I think he was b Real's manager. He managed be 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:54.439 Real them he got off the management game. They found 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:56.720 that dude walking down wheelshir Man with his shirt off, 1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.280 like his shirt that got tore off of them. Man's 1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:03.560 halfway toward niggas walking down the street justo and just 1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:06.600 didn't And he said he wouldn't return none of his 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:10.599 client's phone calls. Noth nigga just left the music industry. Yeah, 1:25:10.600 --> 1:25:12.400 shit ain't worth a dog. I'm gonna tell you, man, 1:25:12.479 --> 1:25:15.439 I've had some of the biggest kind of podcast podcasts 1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:17.920 that are used now on the paperwork. I just let 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:20.439 niggas go dog because it ain't worth the fucking headaches 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:20.880 they look. 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:23.479 I had my DJ in back in the day and 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:26.080 I had my clo at the club called the Current Affair, Right, 1:25:27.000 --> 1:25:29.160 niggas kids helf call up in the other niggas beefs. 1:25:29.960 --> 1:25:31.960 You'll get drugging some shit. Nigga. I've been playing the 1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:35.920 record I'm playing No Vaciline at the club, right, and people, 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:38.400 the people on the floor is damnit because No Vazillen's 1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:40.920 probably one of the baddest fucking dish records far as 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:44.720 dan floor period. Right, And this nigga walks into the 1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:47.680 walk to DJ booth and I got my headphones on. 1:25:47.800 --> 1:25:50.040 He talking shit, but I already paying no attention. 1:25:50.160 --> 1:25:52.200 Just shit and he and the nigga Tabby on my 1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:53.960 shoulder said, what's up? Dog Man? 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:54.840 Took this shiit off? 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:58.720 F you mean taking off damn floor pack took that 1:25:58.760 --> 1:26:01.360 shit off, man, And so the record kept on playing. 1:26:01.600 --> 1:26:04.360 By the time I got through argue with this nigga, 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:05.600 the record already. 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:06.760 Gone off with the nigga. What's up with you? 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:08.599 Oh Man? That shit? 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:09.400 This is my people? 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:12.920 This and who Drey and cubed them? I mean Dre 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:15.599 and I easing them? I said, do you know them? 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:16.160 Na? Man? 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:19.519 But that is just in my ship? Fuck that song, nigga. 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:24.840 Theiggas takes shaped person fans take ship person Man. 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:28.160 Shout out to mac t and man putting on an 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:31.320 epic concert Man on Saturday night. Man, for sure, you 1:26:31.400 --> 1:26:34.559 know a got busy man. He had Homie cam up there, 1:26:34.720 --> 1:26:37.799 jail fell and the man Spice one Bone, Thugs, Harmony, 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:38.360 the dog pun. 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:40.680 It was cracking. Good night man. 1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:43.200 I'm going out the back of the club, right, I 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:46.600 go to the back and I'm coming back in. Some 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:48.639 nigga bump showed us with me. I'm thinking to somebody 1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:50.800 I know, right, and he whispered something in my ear. 1:26:50.800 --> 1:26:52.439 I don't hear him. Because we in emotion kind of. 1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:54.600 And I hear him say something about the show that 1:26:54.720 --> 1:26:56.760 I hear him mention one of the former co host names. 1:26:56.800 --> 1:27:00.320 So I turned around and say, man, what you say. No, 1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:03.080 I'm just saying, I'm like nigga, do I know you? 1:27:04.240 --> 1:27:08.080 People insert themselves and the other people's bullshit. Man, it's 1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:12.320 more definitely don't lost their life, dog arguing behind some shit. 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:15.200 They don't know nothing about your business. 1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:20.919 Yeah, your your opinion is, your opinion is not warranted 1:27:21.000 --> 1:27:24.360 by by fans and motherfuckers on serious shit because they 1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:27.360 take they take shit way to the left. Man. You know, 1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:32.560 because I get I've gotten comments about nigga. Fuck you 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:35.639 because you made a comment about Tupac and the Huge 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:39.920 Brothers movie and whatever happened to Tupac and whatever. Niggas 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:42.840 hate When you just make references to their fame. 1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:45.800 You can't say nothing about Tupac. Dog, you say something 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:47.880 about Tupac, niggas gonna be in your inbox. 1:27:48.040 --> 1:27:51.760 Dog, You a hater. You stay hating on Park. You 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:52.400 don't know me. 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:54.200 You don't know what I hate on Mark. I got 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:57.920 playlists devoted to this nigga. Oh my motherfucker, you talking 1:27:57.920 --> 1:27:59.840 about hate Tupac. I don't got no reason to hate too. 1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:06.120 We are this show is about commentary and other people's opinions, definitely, 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:08.080 And the motherfucker got a right to have an opinion, 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:10.760 got right to have You only got an opinion. You 1:28:10.800 --> 1:28:12.960 know what I'm saying, it's motherfuckers. To tell me, it's 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:15.400 motherfuckers that waste their time. Oh man, I don't fuck 1:28:15.439 --> 1:28:17.160 with the show no more because it is. But check 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.120 you wont here every day? Here you come again with 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:20.120 your same comment. 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:23.240 I've had people man get on me trying to get 1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:25.800 my my co host, Dusty got to try to throw 1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:28.360 him off the ship. Nigga, you mad at Dusty because 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:30.960 he says them, I put the casting off of my show. 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.280 He sends them on his show that you didn't like. 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:34.600 I don't even know you like that. 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:37.360 What I'm saying, man, this shit, that's my dog. We 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:37.680 do that. 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:39.840 Oh check out our show, folks. N W A story 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.599 for a line for every two every Tuesday at six 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:44.400 o'clock and Dusty Vision he does his show forgot what 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:45.120 that he does his show? 1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:47.800 But yeah, we got it going on. Oh for sure, 1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:50.479 I definitely know y'all do doing your thing over there, man, 1:28:50.520 --> 1:28:52.360 I want to ask you. I want to go back 1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:54.080 to see you, kind of like a history professor. 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:55.920 Dog. Yeah that's what. Yeah, yeah, I. 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:58.719 Am when it comes to West Coast hip hop history, 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:00.800 the fuck early days? 1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:08.120 How did y'all all start? Like with the record shit? 1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:10.799 What made y'all? How did you be? Ain't unknown? From Detroit? 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:13.599 Right from Detroit? Okay, So he came out here. 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:16.280 When he came out here a bout seventy seven, he's 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:21.920 about seventeen years old in that many he was seventeen nineteen. 1:29:22.240 --> 1:29:27.080 I'm sure than he his My record thing starts back 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:31.519 in Compton, right there on Walnut, although I passed by 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:34.320 about the other day. Between Central and Wilmington. 1:29:34.840 --> 1:29:35.439 There used to be a. 1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:40.160 Place called Record Shock. They sold records to all the VIPs, 1:29:40.400 --> 1:29:43.840 and so I'm talking about the disco era seventies one 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:45.640 stop then with a one stop. In factly with the 1:29:45.680 --> 1:29:51.200 one stop. I got a job. I first got Roger 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:53.640 from Uncle Jams Army the job there first in the 1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:57.000 sales room. I'm a DJ. I'm a young DJ no records. 1:29:57.040 --> 1:29:59.479 I'm trying to buy records whole sale. I don't have 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:01.479 a whole sale license, but I saw in the paper 1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:04.760 New Record Shack opened it up in Compton. So I 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:07.400 called the people up to see what's happening. She just 1:30:07.479 --> 1:30:09.880 so happy. The dude to answer the phone his name 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:13.080 was Elionzo too, so we we's got to kicking it. 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:17.160 He offered me a job sight unseen. I said, no, allright, 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.639 got a job. I'm working at Kenny's on Rubbleskansas Central. 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:22.479 I'm slinging shoes and I got a good thing with 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:24.879 my manager. I get off for fixt o'clock on Saturdays. 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:26.920 She go, do my look my dj gigs and shit. 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.639 So I called Roger Uncle Jam's army, turn him onto 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:33.439 the job. He gets the job. A couple weeks later 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:36.280 they called up. They got a part time position in 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:40.240 the evening times, working in the warehouse. I take the job. 1:30:40.560 --> 1:30:43.000 So I got two jobs, actually got three jobs. I'm 1:30:43.040 --> 1:30:45.599 working there working Kenny's and I'm still DJing on the weekend. 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:49.880 I'm twenty years old. I'm twenty. So now we're doing 1:30:49.920 --> 1:30:51.439 this shit back and forth. We rolle them back and 1:30:51.520 --> 1:30:53.880 forth to Record Shack. So at one point in time, 1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:56.240 I got a kid. Now I had a kid fresh 1:30:56.280 --> 1:30:59.320 out of high school. Her birthday was here a Gemini 1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:02.559 to Bird Day was Monday, Win, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday. 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:04.599 She was she turned. 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:08.240 She was born on the eleventh of June. I graduated 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:10.320 high school on the on the twelfth of June. I 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:12.639 turned eighteen on the sixteenth of June. My whole life 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.920 and I've been grinding ever since. Okay, so now I 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:18.679 got a kid. My dad got me a job working 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:22.360 for cal Trans on the freeway. I'd have worked there 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:24.280 in the summertime a couple of times. I didn't like 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:25.919 that ship. That shit dangerous. 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:27.320 I didn't like that ship either. 1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:28.720 Okay, you've been there. 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:30.960 Yeah, because when you when you when you were youth 1:31:31.040 --> 1:31:33.240 and you get you go to jail. It's one of 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:36.479 your punish cal Trans. Yeah, i'm working. I'm working on 1:31:36.560 --> 1:31:38.960 cal Trans on the sixth on five. Yeah. It wasn't 1:31:39.000 --> 1:31:40.560 a job that I went out for. 1:31:41.720 --> 1:31:43.680 I was I was getting paid for. I didn't like 1:31:43.760 --> 1:31:44.880 the motherfucker, Okay. 1:31:44.720 --> 1:31:47.040 And as was coming out of camp. So that's one 1:31:47.080 --> 1:31:48.360 of your punishments. 1:31:48.520 --> 1:31:49.880 So yeah, so I didn't want to go back to 1:31:49.960 --> 1:31:52.280 cal Trans. So I got a chance to go full time. 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:54.800 And because my old man was kicking me in the ass, 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:56.800 because I got this kid. He's like, man, you got 1:31:57.040 --> 1:31:58.040 you got to go out there to get to do 1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:00.960 the freeway ship make fuck. But offered me a full 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:04.880 time job at Record Shack to sell record full time. 1:32:06.240 --> 1:32:09.200 I didn't worked at Cowtrans. I'm coming home dirty, smelling 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:12.600 like goddamn freeway every day I didn't work. Now, I 1:32:12.600 --> 1:32:14.400 didn't got a taste of work of the office life. 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:16.599 I go to work clean, come home clean, Nigga, still 1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:20.640 snipper like cologne and shit at five o'clock. So I 1:32:20.720 --> 1:32:22.400 want to do this shit. But I ain't making no money. 1:32:22.439 --> 1:32:24.760 I ain't making that much money. But I'm DJing on 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:27.200 the weekend I'm getting I'm getting a one hundred and 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:32.599 fifty every Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sunday. So I'm getting three 1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:36.639 hundred to four fifty every weekend. But I'm only I'm 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:39.680 working full time at Record Shack. I'm bringing home one 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:43.519 hundred and sixty six dollars a week. Nigga, I'm the 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:47.400 math is bad. I'm working three days making full fifty, 1:32:48.000 --> 1:32:51.760 working Fridays making a hundred and sixty six. But what 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:54.120 changed the game for me was I didn't care about 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:56.840 the little paycheck. I'd go on the warehouse pull all 1:32:56.920 --> 1:33:01.200 my records for my parties on the weekend. They was 1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:03.280 paying me one hundred and sixty six. By the time 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:06.120 I get all my records, double copies, and shit, I'm 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:09.840 talking up with fifteen dollars. Sometime twenty dollars. I got 1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:12.880 a brand new van. I'm cleaning the chitling every damn day. 1:33:13.439 --> 1:33:16.600 They thought I was stealing, so I had but I 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:18.720 had a hustle my own man, and I told him 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:20.040 my own man I was I wasn't gonna work for 1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:21.920 cal Trans because he was the king of cal Trans. 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:24.559 Back then, I worked for this record company. We filled 1:33:24.600 --> 1:33:28.519 the fuck out, we fell out. I been I been 1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:31.560 number one son champ all my life. That night I 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:33.560 told him I wasn't gonna work for cal Trans. I 1:33:33.680 --> 1:33:36.320 was a stupid, dumb motherfucker with a kid. It's gonna 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:38.280 be homeless if you don't get your shit together. Fuck you, 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:40.360 I'm trying to put you in a position to do shit. 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:43.599 He cuss me out. I go work for Record Shack, 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:47.040 But when I'm at Record Shack, I go back. When 1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:49.760 I go back to Record Shack, I'm in the sales room. 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:55.439 I met Calvin the VIP. I met kleaders. I met 1:33:55.560 --> 1:33:59.320 all these fucking v all these independent record stores in Nevada, 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:04.040 in Washington, d C. I mean Washington, Seattle, Washington, Arizona. 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:06.160 That the was on my accounts clean is on the 1:34:06.240 --> 1:34:08.840 one stop he was. He was on big bends, was 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:11.240 bigger than the one stop he was. He damned was 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:12.519 a b He was damn there with a one stop 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:15.000 at one time. You're talking about John Over on Main Street. 1:34:15.000 --> 1:34:15.719 He had a one stop. 1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:18.120 Yeah, well but no Clevelands that opened up some ship 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:20.760 like in the nineties, remember the ship they had in 1:34:20.840 --> 1:34:21.920 Lamur Park moved the sh. 1:34:21.880 --> 1:34:23.800 Oh yea yea yea yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, 1:34:23.800 --> 1:34:24.479 you're right. You at that. 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:27.920 A lot of people don't know I Pete Records. That's 1:34:28.000 --> 1:34:30.040 little shout out to the little Homi abb. So it's 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:30.439 on TV. 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:31.639 Yeah. 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:34.200 He was his awful that's his family. He was getting 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:35.880 so many records he was aboule to take. They would 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:38.280 take a goddamn semi trucks parking in the back of 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.400 the lot. Let them unload the motherfucker. He was buying 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:42.280 so many he was moving so much product back then. 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:46.599 But when I left Record Shock, when I got fired, 1:34:46.720 --> 1:34:49.519 finally got fired. I kept my record list all my 1:34:49.600 --> 1:34:52.840 stores and ship about two. A couple of years later, 1:34:53.080 --> 1:34:56.040 I opened the Eve after Dark. Right before I opened 1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:59.320 The Eve after Dark, being Unknown started doing these bootleg mixes. 1:35:00.280 --> 1:35:04.960 So I called all my old accounts, Cleatis and Kelvin 1:35:05.640 --> 1:35:09.639 to sell these bootlegs. So I'm in the record business now, Okay, 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:12.400 I'm going to the swap meets. I'm making a shitload 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:14.840 of money and I got the Eve after Dark. So 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.640 I created my own little distribution network back in like 1:35:17.880 --> 1:35:21.920 eighty two. But I'm but I'm making these records. These 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:25.960 the technically illegal low Technically, I don't know what the 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:28.200 penalty is. All I know is on every record you 1:35:28.320 --> 1:35:33.920 see it says federal copyright. Federal means penitentiary Feds. I'm 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:36.639 thinking I'm going to the Fed's okay, So I wanted 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:39.720 to go legit. I bring in Run DMC at Eve 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:45.000 after Dark. Run the first. I'm bringing Curtains Blow, Curtis Blow, 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.240 A great show. We're still cool today. Behind that shit. 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:51.080 I bring in Run DMC. They ain't shit in LA yet. 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:54.920 They cost me five hundred dollars, three plane tickets and 1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:58.800 hotel rooms. I bring up to the Eve. They rock 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:01.360 the Eve, but they didn't do all that good. They 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:03.479 wasn't like Curtis Blow. Curtis blow. You know, he got 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:08.800 the party cuts. When Run DMC rocked the crowd, run 1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:11.240 they only they played for fifteen minutes. I'm like, nigga, 1:36:11.240 --> 1:36:14.599 that's it. Curtis did like thirty five minutes, fifteen minutes, 1:36:14.680 --> 1:36:18.680 nigga two songs, and then Run did the ultimate fuck up. 1:36:19.000 --> 1:36:21.640 He dropped my mic and broke the motherfucker nigga still drop. 1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:24.680 That's to say, he dropped my mic and broke them 1:36:25.120 --> 1:36:28.800 like what runs house. When he broke my mic, pissed 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:31.680 me off. He broke my mike. He pissed me off. 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:34.720 And that's when I make mom goddamn group fucking. By 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:37.320 the time I make Clientele, Yellow was already there and 1:36:37.439 --> 1:36:39.080 we started. I knew how to make records. 1:36:40.000 --> 1:36:40.400 We made. 1:36:40.439 --> 1:36:43.640 Our first song was called Slice okay, and you know, 1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:47.120 you know, I remember you remember Surgery was the first one. 1:36:47.240 --> 1:36:50.400 Slice sized just like like a run DMC record, But 1:36:50.520 --> 1:36:53.240 it wasn't. It wasn't West Coast. It was East Coast 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:57.320 Vive and this shit might have went illuminum okay, But 1:36:57.560 --> 1:37:00.160 that was our introduction to the record business. And then 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:02.880 by that time Dre was on the crew and we 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:07.639 made uh, we went on made surgery shit, Drake, Drake 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:11.559 coming to fod crazy part. Me and Dre grew up 1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:15.040 on the same street, three little four houses down for me. 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:19.360 But he's eight years younger than me, his dad and 1:37:19.479 --> 1:37:24.120 my older sister with all partners, So I knew all 1:37:24.160 --> 1:37:26.320 his uncles and shit. I used to, you know, hang 1:37:26.360 --> 1:37:28.160 out with his uncles and shit. So when I come 1:37:28.200 --> 1:37:31.240 to and I'll open the eve. I opened the eve. 1:37:31.240 --> 1:37:34.920 I'm twenty two, by mean talking about mee, Dre, I'm 1:37:36.080 --> 1:37:39.000 twenty four. A couple of years after open the eve 1:37:39.120 --> 1:37:44.360 up right, he's sixteen maybe seventeen, Okay, So he wants 1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:46.800 to come into the club with easy and I'm like, 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:50.360 because at that time, the dress code for clubs was 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:53.960 pimped out and have hard throw shoes and you know, 1:37:54.240 --> 1:37:57.360 a cottage shirt, slacks. It wasn't on jens and tennis 1:37:57.360 --> 1:37:59.840 shoes back then. They come up wearing jeans and tennis shoes. 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:02.120 Y'all can't come in. And Dre hit me, hey man, 1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:03.840 you know you know my people do blah blah blah. 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.639 Deborah and Floyd and Lloyd than my uncles. Oh okay, 1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:08.479 cool man, tell you what change your clothes? Come back 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:12.519 you good to go. Because technically the Eve I had 1:38:12.560 --> 1:38:15.559 it eighteen and over. Drey was too young, but because 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:17.599 I knew his people, I could give him a pass. 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:20.800 I could do that. It was eighteen because I made 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:23.880 it eighteen. I didn't want the motherfucker to be Rumper Room. 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.240 I'd rather be more like Soul trained than Rumper Room. 1:38:26.600 --> 1:38:28.439 Too many young kids, you know, she'd get to running 1:38:28.439 --> 1:38:29.880 around and want to play tagging shit. 1:38:29.920 --> 1:38:30.240 Fuck that. 1:38:30.760 --> 1:38:33.519 So I made it eighteen and over to keep it, 1:38:33.600 --> 1:38:37.120 you know, keep it on the on the grown shitphisticated, sophisticated, 1:38:37.200 --> 1:38:40.479 thank you. And when he came back, I let him up, 1:38:40.600 --> 1:38:44.280 but Easy still was dressed street Nah, you can't come in, 1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:46.400 and he got to talk and shit, so I nigga 1:38:46.439 --> 1:38:47.799 get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. 1:38:48.320 --> 1:38:49.240 Easy was talking shit. 1:38:49.280 --> 1:38:51.120 You're talking. Oh, I can't this Eve up the dark. 1:38:51.240 --> 1:38:53.240 I gotta done. Yes, you do, motherfucker. If you want 1:38:53.280 --> 1:38:55.760 come in my spot, you do. And people think me 1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:57.880 and Easy hated. No, we didn't hate each other. We 1:38:58.040 --> 1:39:01.040 both too shit talking motherfuckers. So he talked shit. I 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:03.920 talked ship back to him. Even after he got paid, 1:39:04.040 --> 1:39:06.920 we still talked shit to each other. Little motherfucker, give 1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:09.599 me my goddamn money. Oh, Jerry curR, nigga, you got 1:39:09.640 --> 1:39:12.280 a Jerry Cole to your ship, nigga like mine. So 1:39:12.600 --> 1:39:15.120 this is kind of this is the kind of relationship 1:39:15.160 --> 1:39:18.880 being easy. Easy came to my house after he was rich, 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:22.280 after he was paid. The nigga still came by the path. 1:39:22.400 --> 1:39:25.640 Nobody else did that. Nobody else come by the hung 1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:27.800 out the path because Yeller was doing them pornos in 1:39:27.880 --> 1:39:30.519 the studio. Easy would come by and hang the fuck out. 1:39:31.400 --> 1:39:33.960 So, so Yeller was doing the pornos over your career. 1:39:34.160 --> 1:39:35.880 He started doing this porn. He started his port career 1:39:35.920 --> 1:39:37.120 at my house in the studio. 1:39:36.920 --> 1:39:39.200 That nigga Yellow. I saw porn on that nigga had. 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:41.120 One day he had a broad on that was about 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:42.200 seventy years old. 1:39:44.560 --> 1:40:02.720 Damn hell hell man, that ye like seven. Oh, I'll 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:04.559 tell you about this shit, man. 1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:11.680 So it comes to I gotta tell cats man. A 1:40:11.760 --> 1:40:14.160 lot of the cats that I worked with don't know 1:40:14.280 --> 1:40:15.960 my history. Man, They don't know how deep I go 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:19.000 on this shit. You know, I can't get mad at 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:23.040 dre for not knowing, for not being more appreciative of 1:40:23.120 --> 1:40:25.040 what I had to go through, because he don't fucking know. 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:29.639 Cub talk about me more than anybody cbe. He understands 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:30.360 I just some shit. 1:40:30.439 --> 1:40:31.320 He don't know. 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:37.639 You got to understand. I'm sixty five. I'm twelve years 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:41.080 older than Cube. When I opened the Eve, I'm twenty two. 1:40:41.720 --> 1:40:47.559 Cube is fucking ten twelve, he's twelve, Okay, Why would 1:40:47.560 --> 1:40:49.000 the twelve year old motherfucker be hanging out with a 1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:51.960 twenty year old motherfucker. Drake couldn't even come to the 1:40:52.000 --> 1:40:55.160 club initially till a couple of years later, and don't 1:40:55.160 --> 1:40:57.200 even when he got in then because I knew his people, 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:02.360 see what I'm saying. So it's they weren't around in 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:05.559 the early days of West Coast hip hop. When I'm 1:41:05.600 --> 1:41:08.080 doing these doing these gigs three four times a weekend. 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:11.120 They didn't carry no twelve hundreds with me. They carried 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:13.960 it eventually, they didn't have to carry it. They didn't 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:15.760 have to worry about the ship I had to go through, 1:41:16.080 --> 1:41:18.160 you know, the crazy, the fucked up promotors and shit 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:19.760 like that. But by the time they got to be 1:41:19.880 --> 1:41:23.479 I was specializing in school dancing for Compton Hyde Centennial verb. 1:41:23.680 --> 1:41:25.519 They and shit they were doing all that shit now 1:41:25.920 --> 1:41:27.880 with you and Easy being as tight as y'all was, 1:41:27.880 --> 1:41:29.040 because y'all was friends. 1:41:29.160 --> 1:41:29.639 It's cool. 1:41:29.720 --> 1:41:32.800 No, y'all was cool. When you saw the manner in 1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:35.280 which he died. Man, did that kind of raise some real. 1:41:35.200 --> 1:41:37.960 Flag, red flag still flagging phill blowing in the wind 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:40.680 right to this day. Because one thing I think about man, 1:41:40.760 --> 1:41:42.000 shout out the Easy Man. 1:41:42.040 --> 1:41:42.800 You know what all him? 1:41:42.920 --> 1:41:45.400 You know, he's one of the godfathers of his gangster shit. 1:41:45.439 --> 1:41:46.920 You know what I mean, was the godfather of the 1:41:47.000 --> 1:41:47.559 gangster shit. 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:49.200 Yeah, you know. 1:41:50.840 --> 1:41:55.240 When you think about that man, like with the amount 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:58.840 of kids he got, ain't nobody came up sick. I 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.320 ain't seen nothing one because Easy was out there. Easy 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:04.320 was getting that little house he had a Northwalk. I've 1:42:04.360 --> 1:42:05.600 been over there a couple of times. You know what 1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:07.599 I'm talking about, the bus up under the six o five. 1:42:07.720 --> 1:42:09.360 You like the house of remember that you have been 1:42:09.360 --> 1:42:11.439 over the house eight No, I knew about it. 1:42:11.600 --> 1:42:12.080 I never went. 1:42:12.280 --> 1:42:14.800 I went over there one time with actually just ran 1:42:14.880 --> 1:42:16.599 into one of my homies. He was signed to him 1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:18.880 because you know, a ruthless had a gang of niggas 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:22.599 signed the roof never came out. One of my partners man, 1:42:22.640 --> 1:42:24.160 he had took me in the homie over there one 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:27.519 day and when I tell you, it was BRA's running 1:42:27.880 --> 1:42:32.120 out that motherfucker dog. It was cracking. Nobody came up sick, 1:42:32.200 --> 1:42:35.800 my nigga, and it's just the manner and they said it, 1:42:35.840 --> 1:42:37.599 and they said the man had just got a life 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:41.240 insurance policy like two or three months earlier. I don't 1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:43.760 think the AIDS virus operate like that, my nigga. He 1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:46.320 didn't even get the half HIV. It's just like this niggas. 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:47.639 All of a sudden he died of AIDS. 1:42:50.040 --> 1:42:50.320 Dude. 1:42:51.439 --> 1:42:53.920 I remember the first person I ever heard die from age. 1:42:54.320 --> 1:42:57.840 It was Rock Hutson back of the day. And for 1:42:57.960 --> 1:43:00.840 that man seven eight months, we give you a blow 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:04.720 by blow description of his condition as he died from 1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:07.840 age on the fucking news every day and this record 1:43:07.880 --> 1:43:10.040 wrestling comfort of me just beverly hilled home as he 1:43:10.080 --> 1:43:11.640 suffered from the effective. 1:43:11.240 --> 1:43:13.000 AIDS And this, I mean, I was like, when is 1:43:13.080 --> 1:43:14.920 mother gonna die? Okay? 1:43:15.360 --> 1:43:18.320 Easy and Magic had had that ship at the same time. 1:43:18.400 --> 1:43:21.320 Magic ain't never turned into age Magic had HIV now 1:43:21.479 --> 1:43:25.640 he's undetectable, right, and they both had money at the 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:32.719 same time. Very suspicious die, very suspicious man. Who would 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:37.120 want Easy then? Yet though, dog, oh no, dude. You 1:43:37.200 --> 1:43:40.360 know there's a lot of conspiracy theories. Some people said 1:43:40.360 --> 1:43:42.080 it was sure because she'd have made that stupid ass 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:45.599 comment on NARTHENI or Hall show about to eat either 1:43:45.640 --> 1:43:47.400 eat thing with the jab That was kind of stupid. 1:43:47.640 --> 1:43:51.680 But then they then people looked at the timelines. He 1:43:51.880 --> 1:43:54.600 wasn't sure was not in contact with Easy. If you 1:43:54.720 --> 1:43:58.280 ask kid Froth, Easy was trying to do that acupuncture. 1:43:58.600 --> 1:44:01.000 He felt that somebody made it got to the acupuncture. 1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:04.360 You know, it was all kind of even if a 1:44:04.439 --> 1:44:06.640 motherfucker did hit him with the shit with the acupuncture, 1:44:06.680 --> 1:44:09.479 he's gonna go. He might very well still be alive. 1:44:10.640 --> 1:44:13.840 Should have been I mean, it should have had HIV first, that's. 1:44:13.800 --> 1:44:16.000 Right, you know what I'm saying. It's just just a stage. 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:20.120 It just went too fucking dramatically quick for it. Uh, 1:44:20.320 --> 1:44:23.040 you know that's the part that always shook people up. 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:25.439 I don't know if I tell you that, but I'm 1:44:25.479 --> 1:44:27.439 in the process of getting the street name after the Easy, right, 1:44:27.479 --> 1:44:30.439 now we've already got the paperwork done. In fact that 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:32.040 I'm waiting on the email right now from the City 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:34.640 Manager of Compton to find out what when I go 1:44:34.720 --> 1:44:37.519 before the city City Council, uh, to get it to proof. 1:44:37.600 --> 1:44:40.519 It's already been taken to your approved. Everybody said they 1:44:40.560 --> 1:44:43.760 gonna vote for it. I've always talked to everybody. He said, no, 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:45.880 no problem, no problem, But we got to go before 1:44:45.920 --> 1:44:49.000 the city Council to do an actual but on the agenda, 1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:51.840 get an actual vote on it and make it happen. 1:44:51.960 --> 1:44:54.200 I gave I put a big A and little E 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:54.479 on it. 1:44:54.479 --> 1:44:57.160 Up on the game surprise that hasn't been done, you 1:44:57.240 --> 1:44:57.400 know what. 1:44:57.520 --> 1:44:59.640 They tried it before, man and for some reason they 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:02.320 couldn't get it passed. But I think now because with 1:45:02.400 --> 1:45:05.439 the fifty anniversary of hip hop right and uh, you know, 1:45:05.600 --> 1:45:07.280 I'm pushing for it because I'm the president of the 1:45:07.320 --> 1:45:10.479 Compton Entertainment Chamber of Commerce. I'm working on the Walker Fame, 1:45:10.560 --> 1:45:12.320 my Hall of Fame with some other things in Compton, 1:45:12.560 --> 1:45:14.200 and that's one of the first things I'm doing. I mean, 1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:17.200 that's why I again, I'm just doing what the fuck 1:45:17.240 --> 1:45:20.200 I do right now, that's on my platform to get 1:45:20.240 --> 1:45:21.720 people recognized. 1:45:21.240 --> 1:45:26.880 When it comes to rappers, dog especially out of southern California. 1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:31.599 The city of Compton has produced more MC's. You got 1:45:31.680 --> 1:45:34.000 this man right here sitting next to us, right right, 1:45:34.280 --> 1:45:36.880 You got him, You got Tiny T, you got King 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:38.920 T from the legendary niggas. 1:45:38.680 --> 1:45:39.960 On up the new ken Kendrid. 1:45:40.520 --> 1:45:43.040 I got a question for you, who's the first Who's 1:45:43.040 --> 1:45:45.240 the first musical group out of Compton? 1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:47.759 You know, the first musical group out of Compton? 1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:52.439 Bad motherfuckers too. I couldn't tell you they're about no busters, 1:45:52.439 --> 1:45:53.600 talk about some bad motherfuckers. 1:45:53.640 --> 1:45:57.040 Most people don't know they rappers or no singers, singers 1:45:57.080 --> 1:45:57.479 they sing? 1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:01.760 I know it's a who isn't war warriors some comp 1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:05.000 out of Compton, baby warrior, some bad motherfucker motherfuckers. 1:46:05.000 --> 1:46:08.280 Did you know? Hell no, we most don't know that. Man. 1:46:08.640 --> 1:46:11.720 I play I play that ship like regularly. 1:46:12.479 --> 1:46:12.960 That's the ship. 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:15.839 The world is a ghetto on all man, I'm on, dude. 1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:18.120 That this is ship. Don't let don't let nobody get 1:46:18.160 --> 1:46:21.840 you down. I'm doing what I'm doing now. I'm a 1:46:21.960 --> 1:46:24.960 grown ass arp carry motherfucker. I ain't did a gig 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:26.519 and that in two years. I'm looking to do some 1:46:26.560 --> 1:46:28.519 more shit, just have some fun. But in the meantime, 1:46:29.400 --> 1:46:31.439 I'm trying to get people recognized. Man, put them up 1:46:31.439 --> 1:46:31.920 on from history. 1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:33.840 Dude. Well, you know what, though, it definitely need to 1:46:33.880 --> 1:46:35.639 be a walker fame in Compton. Where you talking about 1:46:35.640 --> 1:46:36.559 putting that right there? 1:46:36.880 --> 1:46:39.240 My walker fame, I'm looking to put that by the 1:46:39.280 --> 1:46:41.519 transit center, right behind the high center, right by the 1:46:41.560 --> 1:46:44.439 train station, first trade station. It's a big old area 1:46:44.479 --> 1:46:47.400 out there. Ain't nothing in that, motherfucker. It's a building, 1:46:47.439 --> 1:46:49.720 a brand new building. Ain't nobody in the building. I'm 1:46:49.760 --> 1:46:53.720 working with the city, uh the Metro, and. 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:57.519 Shit, why don't you think the city has never done 1:46:57.560 --> 1:47:00.240 that for none of us artists out of this city 1:47:00.320 --> 1:47:00.839 of Compton. 1:47:01.080 --> 1:47:03.960 You know what, dude, That's why I formed the Compton 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:07.000 Entertainment Chamber of Commerce because the City of Compton got 1:47:07.120 --> 1:47:13.639 so much ship to do, like potholes, trees, that city 1:47:13.720 --> 1:47:17.600 council got shipped to do. Where you know, if they 1:47:17.680 --> 1:47:20.920 start building walker fans and ship without without having a 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:23.880 third party doing that ship, what about these potholes, motherfucker? 1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:25.920 Because that's just how we get. 1:47:27.360 --> 1:47:29.800 Kind of like me who've been doing shit in Compton forever. 1:47:30.720 --> 1:47:33.760 Could go to a sponsor if I can get once 1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:36.639 I get permission, hey we're gonna put We're gonna put 1:47:36.640 --> 1:47:38.360 the Walker fame right here. I can go to a 1:47:38.439 --> 1:47:42.519 sponsor and say, hey, look, Nike, whoever I need, I 1:47:42.600 --> 1:47:44.639 need the sponsor for this walker fame for these folks 1:47:44.680 --> 1:47:48.280 out of Compton do it just like they do, uh, 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:54.400 the Staples Center or or Crypto Center. It's the Compton 1:47:54.439 --> 1:47:57.479 Walker fans sponsored by the Crypto Center or whoever. That's 1:47:57.520 --> 1:48:00.400 the that's the plan. So but it takes a lot 1:48:00.439 --> 1:48:05.200 of fucking effort. I'm organish for two years. It's taking 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:10.400 six months to get from the first yes to where 1:48:10.439 --> 1:48:12.160 we are right now, which is easy. I'm trying to 1:48:12.200 --> 1:48:13.320 get it done by his birthday. 1:48:14.080 --> 1:48:16.519 And you would think that people who knew the history 1:48:16.680 --> 1:48:20.800 of what artists and what entertainers have done for the city, 1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:24.800 that it would be like a unanimous thing like yeah, 1:48:25.280 --> 1:48:29.240 you would think yeah, but yeah, but like you said, 1:48:29.800 --> 1:48:32.599 you know, niggas in the city would be like, niggas, shit, 1:48:32.920 --> 1:48:36.840 we need potholes fixed. This ship y'all trying to Y're 1:48:36.880 --> 1:48:40.000 trying to beautify a Walk of fame. Nigga it's fucking 1:48:40.760 --> 1:48:43.519 knee deep potholes around here. Hell yeah. 1:48:43.560 --> 1:48:46.360 But still though, you want to see some good life 1:48:46.360 --> 1:48:48.719 in the city, man, because you got all the other shit, 1:48:48.960 --> 1:48:51.360 you got just more positive ship to come out of company. 1:48:51.360 --> 1:48:54.160 The niggas they got you real right, I mean when 1:48:54.160 --> 1:48:56.360 you got some of the biggest and baddest people veat 1:48:56.439 --> 1:49:00.519 us and meaning Drake, Kendrick, bim w All these folks 1:49:00.640 --> 1:49:03.160 come out of Compton, man, War as you mentioned, George 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:05.639 Bush used to live at one time. Kevin Constant come 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:07.280 out of Compton. You got you got all kind of 1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:09.000 cats where war would happen. 1:49:09.120 --> 1:49:09.320 Dog. 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:11.960 I think Long Beach was laying claimed the War for 1:49:12.040 --> 1:49:13.960 a minute, because I think I saw something about that 1:49:14.080 --> 1:49:15.640 that they was from Loan Beach or something like that. 1:49:16.520 --> 1:49:20.120 War used to be the house band at Jefty's before 1:49:20.240 --> 1:49:23.439 they became War. They would called something else. I forgot 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:26.800 the name of him, but they were the house band. 1:49:27.040 --> 1:49:31.400 I met Howard and Lonnie at Jeoffty's before Jeffy died 1:49:31.479 --> 1:49:33.840 years ago and talked about I used to play. They 1:49:33.880 --> 1:49:35.800 used to play at Jefty's. All of them more than 1:49:35.800 --> 1:49:37.680 from Compton, but enough of them were from Compton High 1:49:37.680 --> 1:49:40.800 School to justify. Men from Compton High School came up. 1:49:41.160 --> 1:49:42.800 They asked some of me k from Long Beach. I'm 1:49:42.800 --> 1:49:43.120 not sure. 1:49:43.240 --> 1:49:45.240 Yeah, it makes sense to neighboring cities and laying the 1:49:45.280 --> 1:49:49.720 band together exactly everybody people coming up. Have you had 1:49:49.760 --> 1:49:51.160 members that was from Inglewood? 1:49:52.120 --> 1:49:55.680 Yeah, Mike t was from Inglewood, Ship Slip was from 1:49:55.760 --> 1:50:00.160 fucking what Harthorne GUARDENA Yeah, yeah, and. 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:03.280 You ain't see it was from Common So yeah, but 1:50:03.400 --> 1:50:06.080 you know, they always gonna claim Compton, Compton Man in 1:50:06.120 --> 1:50:09.080 the city of Compton has global recognition. 1:50:09.560 --> 1:50:10.120 Definitely. 1:50:10.680 --> 1:50:13.519 I was in a little group earlier this year for 1:50:13.760 --> 1:50:16.599 Harvard Man. Harvard University had be on this on this program, 1:50:16.800 --> 1:50:19.479 meaning people from Compton trying to figure out ways to 1:50:19.560 --> 1:50:22.439 make Compton better. And we were the only ones only 1:50:22.520 --> 1:50:26.880 all black, all not black, all minority group. Everybody else 1:50:26.960 --> 1:50:29.720 was white. Okay, we walking that motherfuck and they think 1:50:29.840 --> 1:50:31.880 we I guess it's not. We're gonna be sagging the shit. 1:50:31.960 --> 1:50:34.200 I don't know, but they were surprised that we could speak, 1:50:34.320 --> 1:50:36.679 you know, we could talk like we got some goddamn sense, 1:50:37.000 --> 1:50:40.000 and we did all their assignments and kicked ass. When 1:50:40.040 --> 1:50:41.559 all the smoke was cleared, why do. 1:50:41.600 --> 1:50:45.160 You think a section as you know, as we are 1:50:45.200 --> 1:50:47.920 as far as Compton, was able to produce so much 1:50:48.040 --> 1:50:50.760 motherfucking talent in such a small. 1:50:50.600 --> 1:50:54.760 Section Compton at first at one time, man was. 1:50:54.920 --> 1:50:57.639 Cause like you said, you know, we've had everything from 1:50:58.400 --> 1:51:03.400 fucking artists to fucking Venus and Serena to like, we've 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:05.679 had a lot of ship come out of Compton. 1:51:05.840 --> 1:51:08.639 Compton is a I think because of such a small city, 1:51:09.600 --> 1:51:11.479 you get like anything you got, you got their pressure 1:51:11.520 --> 1:51:13.120 to succeed what I'm. 1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:16.360 Saying, because I had to get I was like, God, damn, 1:51:16.400 --> 1:51:18.439 I gotta get about this motherfucker. Man. 1:51:19.040 --> 1:51:21.960 I think everybody that comes from them in poverished areas, man, 1:51:22.040 --> 1:51:24.120 it's always motivated to get on because I know that 1:51:24.240 --> 1:51:25.760 was my main goal when I was a kid in 1:51:25.840 --> 1:51:28.760 Cleveland was to get the fuck about that motherfucker by 1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:29.719 any means necessary. 1:51:29.720 --> 1:51:31.600 Something with the first city was one of it was 1:51:31.760 --> 1:51:35.040 it was white for years, then it became black. It 1:51:35.160 --> 1:51:37.040 was like one of the first black cities with the 1:51:37.120 --> 1:51:38.680 black mayor and ship like that. So you got a 1:51:38.720 --> 1:51:40.960 lot of people that migrated to Compton, like my dad 1:51:41.520 --> 1:51:45.240 why I usually live on a woman to other kid, 1:51:45.760 --> 1:51:49.000 then we moved out just outside of Compton. But everything 1:51:49.080 --> 1:51:51.479 I did was in Compton, schools, everything. 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:53.000 So it just it was. 1:51:53.200 --> 1:51:57.200 It was LA was so big and white for decades, 1:51:57.560 --> 1:52:00.920 then what was white for decades. Paramount was wife for decades. 1:52:01.320 --> 1:52:04.040 Marshingt didn't exist yet. Carston didn't come out to the sixties. 1:52:05.040 --> 1:52:06.640 Damn mightn't known that Christing. 1:52:06.360 --> 1:52:09.360 Ain't that old. Carston might be think they fifty fifth 1:52:09.360 --> 1:52:09.680 at first? 1:52:09.720 --> 1:52:12.839 Growing up? Yeah, growing up in Compton, you didn't venture nowhere. 1:52:13.360 --> 1:52:15.960 You know, we stayed in fucking Compton. We didn't go 1:52:16.080 --> 1:52:19.080 to LA. We didn't go to Long Beach, we didn't 1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:22.519 go to Paramount, none of that shit. We just stayed 1:52:22.800 --> 1:52:27.120 in com to go to Paramount. Hell Nah, now what everywhere? 1:52:27.160 --> 1:52:30.559 Can my daddy cut lines? He cut loud in Paramount, Downey, 1:52:30.800 --> 1:52:35.120 Long Beach, Torrents Palace, Vergis Guardiena. So I've always been 1:52:35.200 --> 1:52:38.400 exposed to different shit close to me, and it just 1:52:38.479 --> 1:52:39.679 gave me a different perspective. 1:52:40.840 --> 1:52:43.479 Yeah, I can see that man, but company definitely, even 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:46.320 Sugar Man. Even though people focus a lot of times 1:52:46.360 --> 1:52:49.040 on the bad shit the sug did, Sugar did a 1:52:49.120 --> 1:52:51.960 monumental shit, you know, Speaking of which I know Dick 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:54.479 Griffy helped him a lot of wish doing. Dick Griffy's 1:52:54.479 --> 1:52:55.559 relationship with y'all cool. 1:52:55.720 --> 1:52:57.800 I met Dick Griffey like everybody else did at one 1:52:57.840 --> 1:52:58.400 point in time. 1:52:59.280 --> 1:52:59.920 Different Dick. 1:53:00.000 --> 1:53:01.960 If you heard about my cola and what he was 1:53:02.000 --> 1:53:03.640 doing over there. Dick, if you're gonna play the big 1:53:04.000 --> 1:53:06.400 big homie, I could give all yall record deals. Come 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:08.840 over here, you know, to Solar Records. I could do 1:53:08.920 --> 1:53:11.880 the same thing for you. But the Nigga contract, Nigga 1:53:12.000 --> 1:53:14.040 contract was by this time, by the time he did 1:53:14.080 --> 1:53:16.479 that ship, we knew how to read contracts. Oh I 1:53:16.520 --> 1:53:22.040 can't fuck right here. Oh hell, but he's gonna stick 1:53:22.040 --> 1:53:23.360 to his name. It's gonna be some dick up in 1:53:23.439 --> 1:53:30.880 this contract. Okay, some dick in that contract. But because 1:53:30.960 --> 1:53:35.439 Sure came in through another source. Sure came through Big West, 1:53:36.520 --> 1:53:39.320 Big West, where the body was. He made a security 1:53:39.360 --> 1:53:42.760 for Dick Griffy. Dick Griffy was a concert promoter him 1:53:42.880 --> 1:53:44.880 don cor Niggas all these casts. They would do the 1:53:44.960 --> 1:53:48.759 concerts at the Forum and Big West Man and security 1:53:48.800 --> 1:53:53.560 company called n e S National Events Security, that that 1:53:53.680 --> 1:53:57.280 they was hiring when I was a youngster. They was 1:53:57.360 --> 1:54:00.439 hiring x cons and they would crack Nigga and they 1:54:00.439 --> 1:54:02.920 head for passing out flyers back in the day. That's 1:54:02.960 --> 1:54:05.479 when they had the forum, and across the street at 1:54:05.479 --> 1:54:09.200 the racetrack they had a hotel and we leave a 1:54:09.280 --> 1:54:12.320 forum across the street go to the hotel for the 1:54:12.360 --> 1:54:12.960 after party. 1:54:13.600 --> 1:54:13.840 That was. 1:54:13.920 --> 1:54:17.240 That was Big Western Ship, Big West, Big Mike, all 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:20.519 of them, and Sure came under Big West is his 1:54:20.640 --> 1:54:24.000 security thing for a while, and that was after the 1:54:24.720 --> 1:54:27.639 Big Company. But Dick Griffrey was always in the record 1:54:27.640 --> 1:54:29.960 business because he deried the Solar with him and Don 1:54:30.000 --> 1:54:33.640 Cornigius was tight because Don had the soul train and 1:54:33.760 --> 1:54:37.120 that's how you got Shallamar and all these other acts. 1:54:37.200 --> 1:54:41.480 The Whispers and the Lakeside and shit Lakeside used to 1:54:41.520 --> 1:54:45.040 be the house band for my boy John Carter at 1:54:45.200 --> 1:54:48.880 fucking Proud Bird. They was Ohio Lakeside expressed, fresh off 1:54:48.920 --> 1:54:49.880 the motherfucking boat. 1:54:52.960 --> 1:54:58.760 That's crazy, man. So everything is all piece of love. 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:02.280 It's always been always. I had to come and hang 1:55:02.280 --> 1:55:03.680 out with y'all for a minute. That yeah, that's it, 1:55:03.880 --> 1:55:07.560 yeah for sure, man, Because you can have a disagreement man, 1:55:07.640 --> 1:55:09.440 without it being a whole bunch of bullsh what. 1:55:09.640 --> 1:55:12.680 It wouldn't disagreement. It's just like I'm like, damn, he 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:13.640 couldn't use another word. 1:55:13.840 --> 1:55:17.000 Fucking yeah, I couldn't use nothing. It was just my 1:55:17.440 --> 1:55:21.600 opinion of the dance era, man, and you know, being 1:55:21.720 --> 1:55:25.120 influenced by you know, like I said, I listened to 1:55:26.320 --> 1:55:29.920 it was just our era of music. Man. You know, 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:33.280 we had Bobby Jimmy in the critics. Yeah, talked about 1:55:33.320 --> 1:55:33.960 this ship. Yeah. 1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:36.720 Me and my boys was walking the other day and 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:40.000 I've talked about this situation, and we talked about all 1:55:40.080 --> 1:55:42.680 the people that came up in the era, Bobby Jimmy 1:55:42.680 --> 1:55:45.400 and the critics. They was, we're there, Yankovich. 1:55:45.880 --> 1:55:46.600 What did I tell you? 1:55:46.920 --> 1:55:52.520 That much money without ink it's made. Yeah, that motherfucker 1:55:52.600 --> 1:55:56.560 got paid doing that ship parody rapo. 1:55:58.120 --> 1:55:59.120 He is from Lynwood. 1:55:59.280 --> 1:56:03.360 Now crazy understand this. Understand us man. Aside from trying 1:56:03.400 --> 1:56:07.600 to get laid and make it for we had, we 1:56:07.920 --> 1:56:12.200 we was competing with motherfucker Michael Jackson and fucking timam 1:56:12.240 --> 1:56:16.720 Marie and Rick James and Prince, all these bad motherfuckers 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:19.760 that we all came out in the eighties. How in 1:56:19.840 --> 1:56:22.440 the fuck can I compete with Michael Jackson? 1:56:22.760 --> 1:56:23.200 Or Prince. 1:56:23.880 --> 1:56:25.680 All I'm trying to do is get give me a little, 1:56:25.680 --> 1:56:28.720 get me a motherfucker little niche, and rock that motherfucker. Okay, 1:56:29.280 --> 1:56:31.640 l A, We're gonna come over a new sound. L 1:56:31.720 --> 1:56:35.720 A electro Funk is part. We got a partnership from Soul, 1:56:35.760 --> 1:56:39.120 Sonic Force from New York. Some this ship we got 1:56:39.160 --> 1:56:41.600 from carab Work. I can't wear. I can't wear the 1:56:41.680 --> 1:56:45.440 same clothes as grand Master flashing figures five. These niggas 1:56:45.560 --> 1:56:48.000 wearing feathers and moccasins. I can't fuck with that ship. 1:56:48.560 --> 1:56:51.120 So I'm gonna do the sequence ship, all right. We 1:56:51.280 --> 1:56:54.800 some pretty motherfucker, some pretty boy motherfuckers trying to get laid. Okay. 1:56:55.440 --> 1:56:57.200 And when you play, when you when you played with 1:56:57.280 --> 1:57:00.240 Ready for the World, More Day at the time, all 1:57:01.440 --> 1:57:02.520 all that can be rocking with. 1:57:02.840 --> 1:57:06.080 I said that was the era. It was a little 1:57:06.120 --> 1:57:08.800 they had a little little lip gloss on. Okay. 1:57:08.800 --> 1:57:11.880 I washed my face though, I'm dumb with that. Okay. 1:57:12.040 --> 1:57:14.240 I had a Jerry Curl ain't got no hair no more, 1:57:14.720 --> 1:57:15.560 but we all did. 1:57:16.040 --> 1:57:19.520 Okay, Jerry Curl took everybody's motherfucking hair. Though you know 1:57:19.640 --> 1:57:22.120 what of all this ship, I've ever done. I get 1:57:22.240 --> 1:57:24.640 asked about the Jerry curroll morning, any damn thing. And 1:57:24.760 --> 1:57:27.640 if anybody know about a Jerry curl, not only whether 1:57:27.720 --> 1:57:29.840 the fashion statement, but if you got into a fight 1:57:30.120 --> 1:57:32.560 and get got that ship into the nigga's eyes, you 1:57:32.600 --> 1:57:36.120 can whip his mother. Yes, you finna win that fight. 1:57:36.200 --> 1:57:38.360 You get the Jerry coroll with the nigga's eyes, he's 1:57:38.520 --> 1:57:39.360 blind as fuck. 1:57:39.520 --> 1:57:41.400 It was definitely a fashion statement. 1:57:42.560 --> 1:57:44.440 Every day. You know they had a Jerry curl, you 1:57:44.520 --> 1:57:45.240 had your curl. 1:57:47.280 --> 1:57:47.600 You know what. 1:57:48.000 --> 1:57:50.560 My curl would only grow for so it was crazy. 1:57:50.640 --> 1:57:53.600 The front of my hair grew more than my motherfucking here. 1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:55.120 So I had this ship to the side like this. 1:57:55.680 --> 1:57:58.760 This nigger said he had the flock. I see ship, 1:57:59.440 --> 1:58:01.880 my ship. I big at the flock of seagulls. With 1:58:02.040 --> 1:58:02.320 the ship. 1:58:02.480 --> 1:58:05.120 My ship would grow real good up till about rid 1:58:05.200 --> 1:58:07.440 of my neck. But I always went to long Jerry curle. 1:58:07.560 --> 1:58:09.200 I wanted a long one too, but you know it 1:58:09.240 --> 1:58:10.160 would trip me out though. 1:58:10.240 --> 1:58:12.560 Man. I remember my mama first bought that kitchen curl 1:58:12.600 --> 1:58:15.200 shit on and they tore my ass up in school 1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:16.840 the next day because you know them kitchen curls. 1:58:17.160 --> 1:58:18.720 It would only be a part of part of the 1:58:18.800 --> 1:58:22.320 hair be like an afro part, be like curly. Was 1:58:24.320 --> 1:58:27.360 you had that dry side. I'll tell you what, Yeah, 1:58:27.400 --> 1:58:28.360 it's worse than that nigga. 1:58:28.440 --> 1:58:31.160 When I went to school, when I was centennial, I'm 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:33.880 sixteen years old, I used to have a big ass 1:58:33.960 --> 1:58:38.400 natural for real, Okay, but I saw the Superfly album cover. 1:58:39.040 --> 1:58:41.560 But the nigga had the purn. I wouldn't get my 1:58:41.640 --> 1:58:44.280 ship pressed in curl for right doing the Eastern vacation. 1:58:44.680 --> 1:58:49.280 I went back to school. My ship was luxurious and manlious, curious, 1:58:49.880 --> 1:58:51.880 and the niggas talked me out of my hairstyle. Man 1:58:52.120 --> 1:58:53.920 took at this nigga, it look like a bitchoo. I 1:58:53.920 --> 1:58:55.720 got caught all kind of nagors. So most of the 1:58:55.800 --> 1:58:58.280 time that'd be niggas. Heye, niggas be sickly a minor. 1:58:58.320 --> 1:58:59.840 But I ain't that you. 1:59:00.240 --> 1:59:00.960 I ain't do yet. 1:59:01.040 --> 1:59:04.240 But gangster niggas with same mother's hair out the same 1:59:04.360 --> 1:59:07.960 motherfuckers that talked ship about my hair. Niggas still had 1:59:08.040 --> 1:59:11.680 their ship purse pressed and curl after reunion twenty five 1:59:11.800 --> 1:59:14.480 years later, Now the nigga got George Jefferson in the middle. 1:59:14.600 --> 1:59:16.400 But all this ship right here. That guy Ben Franklin, 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:19.320 no budship, same motherfuckers that was talking to ship the 1:59:19.360 --> 1:59:20.760 tenth grade which had this. 1:59:21.680 --> 1:59:23.880 I've seen a gang and I've seen a gang of 1:59:23.960 --> 1:59:26.760 hood niggas. I seen a gang of niggas in the 1:59:26.960 --> 1:59:31.400 hood with with rollers in the pressing that nigga that 1:59:31.600 --> 1:59:32.320 was the thing. 1:59:32.320 --> 1:59:35.880 In the brother at the show Saturday night, it was 1:59:35.920 --> 1:59:38.720 a nigga walking around backstage. Man. That nigga was kind 1:59:38.760 --> 1:59:40.720 of swollen. He looked like he just came up off 1:59:40.760 --> 1:59:43.200 the yard. This nigga had his rollers up in that 1:59:43.320 --> 1:59:46.240 motherfucker he was on swollen and he had rollers in 1:59:46.280 --> 1:59:46.560 his ship. 1:59:46.640 --> 1:59:50.840 Still, Oh yeah, that's old school niggas, that's all. I 1:59:51.000 --> 1:59:52.640 just know the homies used to get their. 1:59:52.560 --> 1:59:55.480 Ships the blue rollers. 1:59:55.840 --> 1:59:57.680 It wasn't fucking green. I think he can't. It wasn't. 2:00:00.280 --> 2:00:02.480 Oh yeah, I probably came with Mitch he then he came. 2:00:02.880 --> 2:00:04.520 He had some green bros in his there. He was 2:00:04.600 --> 2:00:06.120 kind of small. He was just staying there. 2:00:06.200 --> 2:00:07.960 That's they neighborhood colors green. 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:08.560 See. 2:00:09.520 --> 2:00:11.600 But yeah, man, it was a different time, man, So 2:00:12.240 --> 2:00:14.520 when I definitely was a different time. 2:00:14.800 --> 2:00:17.160 I tell niggas, I tell people all the time, man, 2:00:17.760 --> 2:00:22.880 when I was so influenced my I'm personally. I know 2:00:23.120 --> 2:00:26.160 music has a super super powerful influence on people because 2:00:26.160 --> 2:00:28.680 when I was a youngster, I was a big Curtis 2:00:28.760 --> 2:00:33.840 Mayfield flying. Curtis Mayfield did all that black revolutionary music, Okay, 2:00:34.280 --> 2:00:37.160 but when he did Superfly, that shit changed my life forever. 2:00:37.880 --> 2:00:40.320 I wanted to be a junior pimp. Baby, I wanted. 2:00:40.360 --> 2:00:42.680 I wanted to join the Junior Pimp Academy because I 2:00:42.720 --> 2:00:45.240 wouldn't got my ship. I got my ship pressed in curl. 2:00:45.680 --> 2:00:48.360 I got me a Maxi coat. I was even got 2:00:48.440 --> 2:00:51.880 my even Nigga, I even had some bacon soda. Fut 2:00:51.920 --> 2:00:54.280 sniffing that ship in front of my cousin. My cousin 2:00:54.360 --> 2:00:56.400 kicked my ass behind that ship. Nigga, what the fuck 2:00:56.480 --> 2:00:59.600 is you doing? Got pick trying to be cool and shit? Nigga, 2:00:59.600 --> 2:01:02.520 Im sipping bacon soda. Niggas was on that powder back 2:01:02.560 --> 2:01:06.440 in the day. Yeah, holder was like some baller shit, nigga. 2:01:07.160 --> 2:01:09.880 I ain't gonna tell him myself, but yeah, you have 2:01:10.040 --> 2:01:13.120 some powder. Back then, you was a baller. Yeah, trust me. 2:01:13.200 --> 2:01:13.840 I was a baller. 2:01:13.960 --> 2:01:15.720 Yeah, okay, trust me, iut. 2:01:15.640 --> 2:01:18.240 Was a ball I just said I'll tell you today, nigga, 2:01:18.320 --> 2:01:21.160 back in the day, niggas who had that pure powdered 2:01:21.240 --> 2:01:24.480 nigga did ballers check this out? Though? 2:01:24.560 --> 2:01:28.120 Man, I remember well the reason why I even wanted 2:01:28.160 --> 2:01:30.280 to try this ship because they was pumping it on 2:01:30.400 --> 2:01:32.160 the news like it was like it was a brand 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:35.280 new ship, man, because it would tell you all the 2:01:35.360 --> 2:01:38.480 new party drug up the eighties, cocaine. It's all over 2:01:38.560 --> 2:01:41.920 clubs in New York and in Chicago, and you know, motherfucker, 2:01:41.920 --> 2:01:43.360 get the party and that ship hit l A. I'm like, 2:01:43.400 --> 2:01:45.600 give me them that ship, give me some of that 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:48.560 chip twice. How power make a nigga feel like you 2:01:48.600 --> 2:01:51.040 can kick everybody's ass? Yeah, like you can fuck a 2:01:51.080 --> 2:01:53.320 motherfucker up. Like I was always scared of that coke. 2:01:53.400 --> 2:01:55.360 But you gotta be scared, man, and watch that ship. 2:01:55.480 --> 2:01:57.200 I was scared of that cocaine. You ain't never, you 2:01:57.200 --> 2:02:01.560 ain't able took your bump still. Hell yeah, all right, 2:02:01.560 --> 2:02:05.720 I'm gonna tell y'all why I said a nigga coming 2:02:05.800 --> 2:02:08.240 up in the crack era. Yes, in the crack era, 2:02:08.880 --> 2:02:12.000 I saw what that ship. That ship destroyed my neighborhood. 2:02:12.080 --> 2:02:12.200 Dog. 2:02:12.240 --> 2:02:14.000 I'm talking about niggas. You know how you look up 2:02:14.000 --> 2:02:18.080 to certain niggas, Niggas that had to fly do some 2:02:18.240 --> 2:02:20.480 quarters and all that ship they had to fly rise. 2:02:20.960 --> 2:02:23.440 I saw niggas go from having them fly rides and 2:02:23.480 --> 2:02:26.000 the pretty girl's dog to where they was walking. It 2:02:26.120 --> 2:02:29.280 was like a process. Now they walking, they're still clean 2:02:29.360 --> 2:02:31.640 a little bit right, They're still going to work. But 2:02:31.760 --> 2:02:33.960 then they just hobos, my nigga, they just walking down 2:02:34.040 --> 2:02:35.280 the street looking like bums. 2:02:36.000 --> 2:02:38.920 I was scared of that ship, having having the experience 2:02:39.040 --> 2:02:43.240 of either having friends or family members going through that ship. 2:02:43.800 --> 2:02:48.400 That ship, it terrified me, uh to where I didn't 2:02:48.400 --> 2:02:51.040 want to do nothing. I used to think like nigga, 2:02:51.320 --> 2:02:53.720 I didn't even want to smoke weed for a long time. 2:02:54.440 --> 2:02:57.440 And and but you know that didn't last for too long. 2:02:58.560 --> 2:03:02.640 Cocaine with intd to the hood. First see cocaine. You 2:03:02.680 --> 2:03:07.800 gotta understand cocaine, real cocaine was a gentleman's drug. It 2:03:07.920 --> 2:03:11.760 wasn't something that you saw youngster fucking with man before 2:03:12.000 --> 2:03:16.760 crack came out a quilo or cocaine with thirty grand man. 2:03:17.960 --> 2:03:21.200 It was if the cast is soul, cocaine would not 2:03:21.280 --> 2:03:23.440 be that kid. Nowhere in the nowhere in the room 2:03:23.520 --> 2:03:26.000 with that ship. Damn man, that was a whole different thing. 2:03:26.080 --> 2:03:26.440 Back then. 2:03:26.520 --> 2:03:29.000 It was like the old dudes did that ship after 2:03:29.160 --> 2:03:32.040 after after hour to stay up to fuck with the 2:03:32.160 --> 2:03:34.960 young girls. If you had some of that ship, you 2:03:35.000 --> 2:03:37.520 would consider the motherfucking bought us, like nigga having having 2:03:37.560 --> 2:03:40.400 Christal back in the eighties and Cristal nigga, he was 2:03:40.440 --> 2:03:42.720 a baller. You got you can give a nigga a bump. 2:03:43.320 --> 2:03:45.600 Nigga ship this nigga, you know you what. 2:03:46.080 --> 2:03:48.640 It just was a status simber man. Only problem on 2:03:48.720 --> 2:03:50.040 the was you couldn't put that shit in your socket. 2:03:50.080 --> 2:03:52.680 That shitn't melt like water. Oh no, that ship, man. 2:03:52.920 --> 2:03:54.280 I was always scared of that ship. 2:03:54.400 --> 2:03:57.200 Then when I saw the one dude leeing byas died 2:03:57.240 --> 2:03:59.760 the basketball player died the way he did, I was like, man, 2:03:59.800 --> 2:04:00.360 what the fuck? 2:04:00.400 --> 2:04:03.000 I wasn't fucking with that ship. But that's what made 2:04:03.040 --> 2:04:05.080 a lot of niggas include me, stop fucking with that shit. 2:04:05.240 --> 2:04:07.200 But I tell you one time, and that's when I 2:04:07.280 --> 2:04:10.400 stopped smoking at the niggas because I didn't start smoking 2:04:10.400 --> 2:04:12.960 weed like I always tell you, really smoking smoking until 2:04:12.960 --> 2:04:15.920 I was like in my late forties, my nigga, and 2:04:16.040 --> 2:04:18.360 that was only because of my joint problems and shit, right, 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:20.800 you know got them football knees and shit like that. Dog, 2:04:21.440 --> 2:04:23.920 I'm gonna tell you, dog, I got a cousin back 2:04:23.960 --> 2:04:26.000 at the crib that nigga do every motherfucking thing. And 2:04:26.080 --> 2:04:28.680 he's one of them functional niggas to do anything, and 2:04:28.800 --> 2:04:30.320 he might go up off of it for a year, 2:04:30.440 --> 2:04:33.760 right this nigga. Man, One time, tell you, nigga hit 2:04:33.800 --> 2:04:35.080 the joint and I hit the joint. 2:04:35.160 --> 2:04:35.280 Man. 2:04:35.360 --> 2:04:36.360 I was on my way home. 2:04:36.920 --> 2:04:38.880 I just took one little puff. I didn't even know 2:04:38.880 --> 2:04:41.600 how to smoke weed back then. Right, I was on 2:04:41.680 --> 2:04:46.280 the way home. My face just froze up, froze up, 2:04:46.320 --> 2:04:50.720 and I was up still the goddamn all motherfucking night. 2:04:50.760 --> 2:04:52.800 I was just I was riding home. My face just 2:04:52.880 --> 2:04:59.360 got numb. I didn't get high. I didn't face like this. Man. 2:04:59.520 --> 2:05:02.640 I said, well, it's this deck. She just feel number 2:05:02.680 --> 2:05:06.120 the motherfucker. But I ain't never took no bumping those ship, 2:05:06.200 --> 2:05:07.840 my nigga. I was always scared of that shit. I'm 2:05:07.880 --> 2:05:11.320 scared of cocaine. I'm scared of heroin. I don't know 2:05:11.440 --> 2:05:13.840 these niggas that's on them peels. Now, my niggas, they 2:05:13.880 --> 2:05:15.960 gotta be fearing for their life. My nigga, they putting 2:05:16.000 --> 2:05:17.960 fitting on her. They putting fitting on the weed. Now, 2:05:18.400 --> 2:05:20.480 I wouldn't touch that. I wouldn't touch that ship. 2:05:21.920 --> 2:05:26.120 So, Lonzo, coming from where you came from and seeing 2:05:26.240 --> 2:05:28.960 what you're seeing, what's your what's your take on on 2:05:29.160 --> 2:05:31.600 music today? You know what, man? 2:05:31.880 --> 2:05:36.520 It's uh. I think in some cases people don't appreciate 2:05:36.600 --> 2:05:40.040 the art because it's so easy to do now. Mm 2:05:41.480 --> 2:05:44.000 the bar is dropped on the ground. 2:05:44.520 --> 2:05:47.600 Yeah, because I come from some of that time of 2:05:47.880 --> 2:05:52.360 you know, studio and two track tape and all. Yeah, yeah, 2:05:53.000 --> 2:05:55.400 they'll buy some tape and ship. It's it's so simple 2:05:55.480 --> 2:05:58.200 to go in your kitchen right now and and and 2:05:58.640 --> 2:05:59.680 put in a program. 2:05:59.840 --> 2:06:02.880 And you know, it's like it's like giving somebody some money. 2:06:03.440 --> 2:06:04.120 Too too young. 2:06:04.280 --> 2:06:06.040 They don't they don't appreciate the fucking money. You think 2:06:06.080 --> 2:06:08.400 it's gonna last forever. You know, when I got my 2:06:08.520 --> 2:06:11.800 first my first, big ass fact but big ass bag, 2:06:12.000 --> 2:06:13.160 I thought I was gonna be rich forever. 2:06:13.280 --> 2:06:13.480 Man. 2:06:14.200 --> 2:06:16.040 And music makes you think the same thing you got 2:06:16.080 --> 2:06:18.560 you got, celebrity. You on the internet, you all over. 2:06:18.560 --> 2:06:20.640 You're blowing up in your hood blah blah blah. And 2:06:20.760 --> 2:06:23.360 you think, and you're young, you think this is easy. 2:06:24.280 --> 2:06:26.600 But at some point to make shit gonna flip. And 2:06:26.680 --> 2:06:28.320 what you doing today a gonna be shit tomorrow. 2:06:29.400 --> 2:06:32.240 That's some real shit, man, And a lot of artists 2:06:32.280 --> 2:06:35.440 don't take heed to that. Today you see a lot 2:06:35.480 --> 2:06:37.960 of the flossiness and like you said, the money, and 2:06:38.560 --> 2:06:43.280 you know, niggas is you know, even in our time, 2:06:43.920 --> 2:06:46.920 we did what a lot of niggas is doing right now. 2:06:47.320 --> 2:06:53.000 We traveled equal on planes and trains, automobiles, the expensive 2:06:53.080 --> 2:06:56.400 of this and homes and parties and women and all 2:06:56.520 --> 2:06:59.840 that shit. And like you said, eventually, you're gonna wake 2:06:59.920 --> 2:07:02.040 up up one day and you're gonna be fifty plus. 2:07:02.600 --> 2:07:05.440 You get me, And nigga's not gonna want to listen 2:07:05.520 --> 2:07:08.080 to your music no more. And you know you're gonna 2:07:08.120 --> 2:07:11.680 have to find other ways of income and to stay 2:07:11.840 --> 2:07:15.240 relevant or just to pay a motherfucking bill, you know 2:07:15.320 --> 2:07:19.120 what I'm saying. So it's crazy our artists today think 2:07:19.320 --> 2:07:21.600 of like this shit is gonna last forever. 2:07:21.800 --> 2:07:24.560 Oh dude, this shit at some point time and line 2:07:24.680 --> 2:07:25.880 like gonna go up, Come come. 2:07:25.840 --> 2:07:26.360 Up, your ass. 2:07:26.600 --> 2:07:28.560 Believe me, you better be thinking of a plan now 2:07:28.600 --> 2:07:30.520 while you got it. That's one thing I learned about 2:07:30.680 --> 2:07:34.000 just being in the business, man, is that don't nothing last. 2:07:34.080 --> 2:07:34.320 Whatever. 2:07:34.400 --> 2:07:36.480 You gotta tell it while you got it, while it's cracking, 2:07:36.760 --> 2:07:38.520 and kind of start pivoting towards. 2:07:38.280 --> 2:07:39.360 Some mother shit. You know what I mean? 2:07:39.920 --> 2:07:42.520 You know what I think of all the shit? I 2:07:42.600 --> 2:07:44.960 think what would take people take for granted more than 2:07:45.000 --> 2:07:46.880 anything they motherfucking health. 2:07:47.400 --> 2:07:49.879 Oh oh, definitely all the shit. 2:07:50.360 --> 2:07:53.240 That all that money don't mean a motherfucking thing. Nigga. 2:07:53.920 --> 2:07:56.960 I ain't got no details on Jimmy take me fucked, 2:07:57.280 --> 2:07:59.080 but whatever it is, he can't by his way out 2:07:59.120 --> 2:08:03.520 of it. Disrespected the brother at all. No disrespect by no, 2:08:03.680 --> 2:08:06.840 by no means. So all the money or whatever you 2:08:06.960 --> 2:08:10.320 got when you lose your motherfucking health, nigga, it's it's 2:08:10.360 --> 2:08:13.600 a whole nother world. Like I had prostate cancer. Okay, 2:08:13.800 --> 2:08:18.720 I'm a prostate cancer survivor. Man, So God, all my youngsters, 2:08:18.840 --> 2:08:21.560 all my home young homies coming up behind me, nigga, 2:08:21.600 --> 2:08:24.040 go get that go get that check man. And and 2:08:24.280 --> 2:08:26.640 here's the cold barty about it is, don't let nobody 2:08:26.760 --> 2:08:28.680 clown you. It ain't. It ain't about these fingers no more. 2:08:28.680 --> 2:08:31.560 They can take you. I've been there. They can take your. 2:08:31.520 --> 2:08:36.360 Prostate, but just the blood tests. Okay, But don't be 2:08:36.440 --> 2:08:38.480 afraid to go get your prostate check here because when 2:08:38.480 --> 2:08:41.160 you get symptoms. By the time you get symptoms, nigga's 2:08:41.200 --> 2:08:45.480 too late. Nigga, stop making amazements. Its talking about a 2:08:45.520 --> 2:08:49.120 quiet killer. It's a quiet killer. That high blood, that 2:08:49.480 --> 2:08:52.760 that high bloo dog. I'm gonna tell you them little pills, 2:08:52.800 --> 2:08:54.760 dog that make your head and hurt. Take the motherfuckers. 2:08:54.800 --> 2:08:56.280 I got a whole bunch of homies that don't take 2:08:56.280 --> 2:08:57.960 their medicine. I take mu shit every day. 2:08:58.120 --> 2:08:59.080 I take mine every day. 2:08:59.160 --> 2:09:00.520 Every day, I take one day. 2:09:01.000 --> 2:09:04.800 But like you said, motherfuckers don't value that shit. You can't. 2:09:04.840 --> 2:09:08.920 You take a motherfucking twenty five thirty right now, drinking 2:09:09.040 --> 2:09:13.080 every day, partying, eating whatever they eat. You know a 2:09:13.160 --> 2:09:15.960 lot of niggas thought I would be surprised if you 2:09:16.120 --> 2:09:18.600 asks a lot of motherfuckers if they even have any 2:09:18.720 --> 2:09:20.640 kind of health care. You know what I'm saying. Any 2:09:20.720 --> 2:09:23.320 kind of health insurance, you get me. Nigga, you got 2:09:23.360 --> 2:09:26.040 a three hundred thousand dollars car nigga, what kind of 2:09:26.120 --> 2:09:29.560 health insurance you got If you're paying, you're paying for 2:09:29.680 --> 2:09:32.120 some Blue Cross or some shit. I bet you you not, 2:09:33.080 --> 2:09:35.520 but that shit. Ain't never heard that shit. No lyrics, man, 2:09:36.160 --> 2:09:40.640 No niggas ain't paying forig nigga. Go buy one hundred 2:09:40.680 --> 2:09:43.200 thousand dollars CUBID right there, and I bet you get 2:09:43.280 --> 2:09:45.400 asking for nigga. How much you're paying every month on 2:09:45.520 --> 2:09:48.800 your health insurance. Nigga be like, huh, like nigga was smart. 2:09:49.120 --> 2:09:51.839 Get my girl with a job who got healthishurance? Yeah, exactly. 2:09:51.920 --> 2:09:53.640 I'm gonna tell you what most of these niggas need 2:09:53.720 --> 2:09:55.600 to do. Dog, I'm gonna tell you. I heard the 2:09:55.640 --> 2:09:58.320 little nigga from Mob Deep products because you know he 2:09:58.440 --> 2:10:02.040 had the what's the one disease he had? Yeah, I 2:10:02.120 --> 2:10:04.360 heard he had that written his recording contract that they 2:10:04.360 --> 2:10:07.400 will pay health insurance for him. No, ship, that would 2:10:07.440 --> 2:10:11.880 be smart for any major artists. You get me who 2:10:12.000 --> 2:10:15.000 has ties to one of the big labels, motherfucker, you 2:10:15.080 --> 2:10:16.400 feel to put me on your health plan? 2:10:16.640 --> 2:10:18.800 Tell you them people list in that office that work there, 2:10:19.240 --> 2:10:20.280 they got health insurance. 2:10:20.320 --> 2:10:22.040 You could you technically on the I mean yeah, if 2:10:22.040 --> 2:10:23.200 you're a regular employee. 2:10:23.640 --> 2:10:26.440 Here's something they were working on right now, should be 2:10:26.520 --> 2:10:31.600 Curtis blow myself karas One were trying to get rappers 2:10:31.800 --> 2:10:34.800 accepted into the union. Man, they should, they should, they 2:10:34.840 --> 2:10:36.760 should have been done it because I'm I'm I'm in 2:10:36.840 --> 2:10:37.600 the I'm in. 2:10:37.600 --> 2:10:40.160 The sag right after, you know, because I don't done 2:10:40.160 --> 2:10:44.240 a few movies and commercials. Niggas you big time what 2:10:44.400 --> 2:10:47.760 you're saying, problems? You get insurance to that right when 2:10:47.760 --> 2:10:49.480 you work so many hours, and a lot of these 2:10:49.520 --> 2:10:52.160 people have more than work enough hours. Dog the work 2:10:52.200 --> 2:10:54.320 they can get it. It at the very least will 2:10:54.360 --> 2:10:57.640 make your health insurance a lot cheap. Yes, Fortunately, man, 2:10:57.720 --> 2:10:59.920 mar had a wife that's an education dogs on mine. 2:11:00.000 --> 2:11:01.800 Insurance is bomb the mother for so I never have 2:11:01.840 --> 2:11:05.120 to worry about that, right And I remember my wife 2:11:05.200 --> 2:11:06.800 told me that when I first started making money. The 2:11:06.840 --> 2:11:08.720 first thing you want to do when you start making money, like, 2:11:08.720 --> 2:11:10.360 I don't need you going to work. You want to 2:11:10.360 --> 2:11:13.080 go teach the kindergarteners. And you know you ain't got 2:11:13.160 --> 2:11:15.320 to do that no more. Well, how go take care 2:11:15.320 --> 2:11:18.520 of your insurance? Yeah, got the good benefits this, you 2:11:18.560 --> 2:11:20.640 got asthma, you got high blood first you got all this, 2:11:20.760 --> 2:11:22.880 we need that. I said, you know what, You're right, 2:11:22.960 --> 2:11:24.400 you're gonna stay at that motherfucker. 2:11:24.480 --> 2:11:27.640 You know what I meant at a buddy mind he 2:11:27.800 --> 2:11:30.160 kept a part time job at FedEx just for the 2:11:30.200 --> 2:11:33.600 health insurance. Yeah, I mean smart fed Ex will paid 2:11:33.680 --> 2:11:35.800 still pay you your health insurance. 2:11:36.000 --> 2:11:40.240 The part time motherfucker give you a quarter million dollar contract, 2:11:40.320 --> 2:11:42.280 but they don't want to give you that health insurance. 2:11:42.320 --> 2:11:45.280 You know what I'm saying. Let your motherfucking ass die off. 2:11:45.400 --> 2:11:48.160 So we got your motherfucking residuals in your in your 2:11:48.280 --> 2:11:50.040 music and all that. For decades. 2:11:50.080 --> 2:11:53.120 As a grown ass man and the OG in this game, 2:11:53.440 --> 2:11:56.240 that's my responsibility to tell people to put and put them, 2:11:56.400 --> 2:11:58.240 put them up on the game about the real ship 2:11:58.360 --> 2:11:59.240 Fu Boo ship. 2:11:59.400 --> 2:12:02.320 Yeah, that's the real shit man. All you niggas out 2:12:02.360 --> 2:12:05.520 there right now, even you females too, y'all making all 2:12:05.600 --> 2:12:08.840 this money, you know, get you some good health insurance, man, 2:12:08.960 --> 2:12:09.200 get you. 2:12:09.240 --> 2:12:11.400 Some life insurance. Can you check out? Yeah, I ain't 2:12:11.400 --> 2:12:13.160 gotta do a car wash right there are your ass. 2:12:13.280 --> 2:12:15.120 That's the biggest thing I know. We was talking about 2:12:15.160 --> 2:12:17.160 that earlier, and I Aint gonna getting these brother's business. 2:12:17.280 --> 2:12:20.800 But the brother Gunplay, I guess, had to go fund 2:12:20.880 --> 2:12:23.040 me up for his daughter that was in the situation, 2:12:23.160 --> 2:12:25.520 and the fans was mad because he saw gonna get 2:12:25.600 --> 2:12:28.520 Rick Ross a chain. And that's the thing fans don't 2:12:28.560 --> 2:12:31.880 know the entertainment business. Gunplay probably got that chain. It 2:12:32.000 --> 2:12:34.160 was probably a deal. Somebody gave them some stuff. Hey, 2:12:34.160 --> 2:12:36.040 if you get Ross to go on Instagram with this 2:12:36.120 --> 2:12:38.760 motherfucker say my name, I'll let you have a chain. 2:12:39.160 --> 2:12:40.760 He probably didn't have to pay for that chain. 2:12:40.840 --> 2:12:45.200 But we see situations to where brothers gotta do gofundmes 2:12:45.240 --> 2:12:48.320 when they die and stuff that to your family. Right, 2:12:49.480 --> 2:12:53.040 life insurance one hundred thousand dollars life insurance policy would 2:12:53.040 --> 2:12:55.600 cost you maybe ten fifteen dollars a month if that 2:12:56.560 --> 2:13:00.200 go get your life insurance. Definitely, life insurance. If you 2:13:00.240 --> 2:13:04.480 smoke cigarettes, put them cigarettes down now while you're young, you. 2:13:04.640 --> 2:13:08.080 On that lean, you sip in, you just live in 2:13:08.160 --> 2:13:10.720 life there because right now, man, being in this rap 2:13:10.840 --> 2:13:14.040 game is just dangerous period period. You feel me, So 2:13:14.680 --> 2:13:17.200 get you some life insurance. Man. You never know you 2:13:17.280 --> 2:13:19.840 put out a record today and be shocked tomorrow. You 2:13:20.000 --> 2:13:22.600 get me that. That's just how it worked today. Something. 2:13:23.000 --> 2:13:25.320 I'm gonna say this, drop some shit on y'all. Man, 2:13:25.800 --> 2:13:28.720 that's gonna be fucked up and people people gonna hate 2:13:28.720 --> 2:13:30.320 me for this ship, but I'm gonna say it anyway. 2:13:32.000 --> 2:13:34.240 Do you know one of the biggest byproducts of this 2:13:34.360 --> 2:13:38.600 gangster rap shit the organ harvest You know what the 2:13:38.720 --> 2:13:42.040 organ harvesting is. Yeah, I'm familiar with organ harvesting. When 2:13:42.040 --> 2:13:44.720 your ass die, they start taking your body parts, yeah, 2:13:44.720 --> 2:13:46.400 for sure, breaking your ass down like a fifty seven 2:13:46.440 --> 2:13:49.760 shivy pick apart. You start selling your heart, your clean 2:13:49.880 --> 2:13:51.920 and your eyeballs and all kinds of shit. 2:13:52.040 --> 2:13:52.200 Man. 2:13:52.640 --> 2:13:55.760 So when you when you when you have this, when 2:13:55.800 --> 2:14:00.280 you got young healthy people dying at an early age age, 2:14:00.840 --> 2:14:04.160 their body parts become valuable to some other people. Oh yeah, 2:14:04.160 --> 2:14:07.320 they could kidney all that ship, all that shit, man, 2:14:07.400 --> 2:14:09.960 all that ship gets recycled. Man, you'll ask to get 2:14:10.000 --> 2:14:10.360 broke down. 2:14:10.360 --> 2:14:13.360 And the secary part about that, your family members don't 2:14:13.360 --> 2:14:15.400 got to know because once they once they get a 2:14:15.400 --> 2:14:18.560 hold of your ass after the funeral and ship, they 2:14:18.640 --> 2:14:20.600 could take your body's been going before the hit your 2:14:20.600 --> 2:14:24.320 funeral and break your ship down the casket. Your family 2:14:24.360 --> 2:14:26.200 don't know if you'll kids and they don't know, and 2:14:26.280 --> 2:14:28.040 they could put some plastic guards in your head. 2:14:28.120 --> 2:14:29.200 All your eyes are closed. 2:14:30.880 --> 2:14:34.160 So all I'm saying is as brothers out of these 2:14:34.200 --> 2:14:37.840 streets doing making it just the civil war we got 2:14:37.920 --> 2:14:40.800 going on. Think about man, this just think about that ship. 2:14:40.840 --> 2:14:43.600 That's all dude, My my, my, My nonprofit is called 2:14:43.640 --> 2:14:44.120 hood Piece. 2:14:44.200 --> 2:14:44.360 Man. 2:14:44.840 --> 2:14:46.600 I'm trying to put some peace and Compton. 2:14:46.360 --> 2:14:50.600 Dot Yeah we needed man, We've been trying for years. Man. 2:14:50.920 --> 2:14:53.680 It's just, you know, it's just it's just unfortunate. 2:14:53.800 --> 2:14:55.720 Do you realize how many people, i mean, youngsters grew 2:14:55.800 --> 2:14:58.080 up ain't never seen peace in the hood. I've seen 2:14:58.120 --> 2:14:59.000 peace of the hood before. 2:14:59.120 --> 2:14:59.280 Man. 2:14:59.640 --> 2:15:01.320 I'm on enough to be able to walk. Remember, I 2:15:01.320 --> 2:15:05.480 could walk through Compton and not get Jack Man. Walk 2:15:05.520 --> 2:15:08.040 from Saint Alberts. The Captain of the Park used to 2:15:08.040 --> 2:15:09.560 be a dairy right there in the corner. Go to 2:15:09.640 --> 2:15:11.480 Captain of the park, hang the fuck out for a minute, 2:15:11.640 --> 2:15:13.560 and walk my ass down Chilly Buck left on a 2:15:13.760 --> 2:15:15.960 D thirty fifth, take my ass, hop the fist of 2:15:16.000 --> 2:15:16.880 badguard and go home. 2:15:18.160 --> 2:15:22.360 I could probably do that up until I was probably 2:15:22.440 --> 2:15:31.440 about nine years old in Compton. After that, you ten, eleven, twelve, 2:15:32.360 --> 2:15:35.920 you started getting sweated at the bus stops going to school. 2:15:36.840 --> 2:15:40.760 You know, niggas started jacking you for your starter jackets 2:15:40.920 --> 2:15:44.640 and all that type of shit. So, I mean, there 2:15:44.800 --> 2:15:47.400 was a time when I grew up as a kid 2:15:47.600 --> 2:15:53.480 in Compton to where it probably was gangs like a motherfucker. 2:15:53.520 --> 2:15:56.320 But I didn't notice. You know, I rode my bike 2:15:56.400 --> 2:15:59.560 up and down the street, or play with my cousins 2:15:59.680 --> 2:16:04.560 on the weekend, or you know, I didn't notice. I 2:16:04.720 --> 2:16:09.200 never noticed, like damn they gang banging over here. Nigga's 2:16:09.200 --> 2:16:11.720 over here wearing blue, and then nigga's over there waring. 2:16:12.120 --> 2:16:14.560 I didn't notice that until I got probably about ten 2:16:14.600 --> 2:16:17.600 and eleven twelve and going to school one day and 2:16:17.720 --> 2:16:21.280 niggas pulled up on us at the bus stop and like, Nigga, 2:16:21.320 --> 2:16:24.520 where y'all from? And I'm looking like, what the fuck? 2:16:24.720 --> 2:16:27.200 What do you mean? Where we from? And nigga, you 2:16:27.320 --> 2:16:29.400 know where you at? And while you got that blue 2:16:29.520 --> 2:16:32.200 jacket on, and won't you walk? And I'm like, oh, okay, 2:16:32.600 --> 2:16:36.480 And that's when I first noticed these niggas gang banging 2:16:36.560 --> 2:16:39.000 out here. Huh. But check this out there. 2:16:40.120 --> 2:16:43.680 I fuck with Compton College a lot, right if cats, 2:16:44.360 --> 2:16:48.120 if somebody wants to get get the shit together and 2:16:48.320 --> 2:16:53.720 get educated. Compton College got so many goddamn programs, free books, 2:16:54.160 --> 2:16:58.160 free food, free transportation, all kind of shit. They do 2:16:58.360 --> 2:17:00.720 everything but wake your ass up and rush your motherfucking teeth. 2:17:01.440 --> 2:17:03.480 Okay, thing, man, there's a lot of ways out here, 2:17:03.560 --> 2:17:05.760 man for brothers to better They circles exactly. 2:17:06.120 --> 2:17:09.680 But but here here's the problem. So many cats either 2:17:09.760 --> 2:17:11.920 if they ain't got no car, fraid to get on 2:17:11.959 --> 2:17:14.039 the bus stop? Can they gotta go through any hood 2:17:14.040 --> 2:17:17.720 to be different hoods? Your education is being stifled by 2:17:17.959 --> 2:17:19.640 us not being able to get a loan on each other. 2:17:19.720 --> 2:17:21.600 One of the nigga give a nigga pass to go 2:17:21.640 --> 2:17:22.199 to school. 2:17:22.000 --> 2:17:25.440 The least man. Yeah, it's gotta be a truly motherfucker 2:17:25.480 --> 2:17:29.920 who's really about being educated, Because shit, niggas look down. 2:17:30.280 --> 2:17:32.879 Niggas looked down at you for getting on the fucking bus. 2:17:33.600 --> 2:17:36.480 Get me, nigga, you're on the bus, or you broke ass. 2:17:36.560 --> 2:17:40.400 Motherfucker you riding the bus, motherfucker, you get me. Niggas 2:17:40.480 --> 2:17:43.120 look down on you for trying to create that effort. 2:17:43.280 --> 2:17:45.840 You get me, like you should be proud of a nigger. 2:17:45.920 --> 2:17:47.960 Nigga I'm getting on the bus every day trying to 2:17:48.000 --> 2:17:50.600 go to school, lit better myself. You got nigg as, 2:17:50.600 --> 2:17:53.280 soon as you get off the bus, you broke ass. Nigga, 2:17:53.320 --> 2:17:56.560 you ride the bus. Motherfucker. We was looking. We like 2:17:56.680 --> 2:17:59.400 I used to tell niggas here you go to New York, 2:17:59.440 --> 2:18:02.440 you getting the cab. That's the thing to do here. 2:18:03.160 --> 2:18:06.880 You're broke, casting a cab. You riding cabs around, nigga, 2:18:06.879 --> 2:18:09.280 All y'all, broke is a motherfucker. Nigga felt like some 2:18:09.480 --> 2:18:13.039 common you ain't broke all it the calve and ship cab. 2:18:13.080 --> 2:18:14.280 You gotta have the money these days. 2:18:14.320 --> 2:18:16.280 I mean back of the day, my mom called us 2:18:16.320 --> 2:18:18.440 a cab. You needs to be like calling us a 2:18:18.560 --> 2:18:21.320 cab for like, that's a symbol of being broke, like 2:18:21.400 --> 2:18:22.119 a motherfucker. 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:25.120 No niggas is hopping in ubers and shito. 2:18:25.760 --> 2:18:28.200 Yeah the uber Hey, what. 2:18:28.240 --> 2:18:30.120 Can I tell you, man, I'm just had to drop 2:18:30.160 --> 2:18:31.560 that on some folks man. 2:18:31.520 --> 2:18:34.280 Just on the Strip's the it's the environment and like 2:18:34.520 --> 2:18:37.640 the people you around, and it's just what people expecting, 2:18:37.680 --> 2:18:40.520 what people think of a motherfucker. Instead of trying to 2:18:40.600 --> 2:18:44.240 congratulate a nigga for putting in that effort to change itself. 2:18:44.680 --> 2:18:47.480 You know, we come from an era where niggas look 2:18:47.600 --> 2:18:50.360 down on you for being a hood nigga for wanting 2:18:50.400 --> 2:18:54.160 the better itself. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, we we 2:18:54.320 --> 2:18:55.400 all come from that era. 2:18:55.680 --> 2:18:58.280 Like, as a OG the Triple OG, I would like 2:18:58.320 --> 2:19:01.400 to see motherfuckers be more proud of having more cash 2:19:01.560 --> 2:19:03.280 walking the stage than walking the yard. 2:19:04.240 --> 2:19:04.760 Definitely. 2:19:05.320 --> 2:19:07.640 You know, that's just a dream of mine as a 2:19:07.760 --> 2:19:12.000 Triple OG nine affiliated motherfucker, to have more niggas walking 2:19:12.480 --> 2:19:15.520 walking across the stage a Compton High Domingus College, or 2:19:15.520 --> 2:19:18.040 whatever the case may be, than walking walking the yards 2:19:18.080 --> 2:19:18.840 of a penitentiary. 2:19:19.000 --> 2:19:21.640 Lins as a cat that come from out of town, Man, 2:19:21.640 --> 2:19:24.680 they kind of hitting California at this peak of gang banging. 2:19:25.360 --> 2:19:26.959 I ain't gonna say, at this peak, I came out 2:19:26.959 --> 2:19:30.440 to California eighty eight, where you from the Cleveland, Okay, Cleveland, Ohio. 2:19:30.520 --> 2:19:33.440 I came out here in nineteen eighty eight, had plenty 2:19:33.480 --> 2:19:36.600 of invitations, man, the joint gangs. Man, my homeboy Find 2:19:36.800 --> 2:19:38.800 was trying to jump me in every other day, you know. 2:19:39.160 --> 2:19:42.039 But the one thing I noticed, man, I said, Man, 2:19:42.120 --> 2:19:45.120 that shit seemed like a no win situation, I'm not 2:19:45.280 --> 2:19:47.360 fucking with that because I would notice when I would 2:19:47.360 --> 2:19:50.120 be wanting to go certain places, like, hey, man, let's 2:19:50.160 --> 2:19:50.760 go this mall. 2:19:50.800 --> 2:19:52.200 I heard, it's a mall. You know, I'm from out 2:19:52.200 --> 2:19:54.000 of town. I want to go there, or we can't 2:19:54.040 --> 2:19:54.280 go there? 2:19:54.320 --> 2:19:57.920 I said, damn, so y'all segregate y'allselfight, that said, I 2:19:57.959 --> 2:19:59.920 don't want to be involved. And plus I started meeting 2:20:00.040 --> 2:20:02.800 different cats from different neighborhoods and realized, what, man, if 2:20:02.840 --> 2:20:05.200 I fuck with them, I might not be able to 2:20:05.240 --> 2:20:06.960 fuck with the homie like I used to while I 2:20:07.120 --> 2:20:08.880 can't go over there. It was just seemed like it 2:20:08.959 --> 2:20:10.600 limited your opportunity too much. 2:20:10.600 --> 2:20:11.039 You know what I mean? 2:20:11.680 --> 2:20:14.000 Absolutely correct, Doc, it does limit your opportunities. 2:20:14.280 --> 2:20:17.600 And the one thing I couldn't understand is, like I said, Man, okay, 2:20:17.680 --> 2:20:19.480 y'all supposed to be from the same place, but it 2:20:19.560 --> 2:20:22.720 seemed like this nigga more scannless. The nigga that is 2:20:22.760 --> 2:20:24.760 from your neighborhood is more scanless than the nigga this 2:20:25.120 --> 2:20:26.640 just enemies, you know what I'm saying. 2:20:26.760 --> 2:20:30.680 So it was just a no wining situation. Yeah, well, 2:20:31.120 --> 2:20:34.039 we didn't see it like that doog, which was unfortunate. 2:20:34.560 --> 2:20:37.800 We thought it was everything well, our gang banging and 2:20:37.879 --> 2:20:41.600 dope slaling and claiming the hood was got the sack 2:20:41.680 --> 2:20:45.400 that shit. I couldn't even tell you, man, I couldn't 2:20:45.440 --> 2:20:46.040 even tell you. 2:20:46.600 --> 2:20:48.879 I got a question for you, who you think makes 2:20:49.200 --> 2:20:51.800 made the most money in the dope era? 2:20:53.959 --> 2:20:56.959 Shoot, according to all of the federal government, not the Nigga, 2:20:57.080 --> 2:21:02.440 not usos. Yeah, Koreans came into our community doing the 2:21:02.480 --> 2:21:04.880 dope aron and took over everything black. You can't buy 2:21:04.920 --> 2:21:07.240 a pair of tennis shoes, a bottle of Hennessy, a 2:21:07.320 --> 2:21:08.640 piece of chicken when I give them to somebody. 2:21:08.680 --> 2:21:10.520 Don't you know what I'm gonna tell you this though. 2:21:10.680 --> 2:21:13.800 I used to talk to the old, old black dude 2:21:13.840 --> 2:21:17.000 that owned the liquor store, Jay's Liquor O from Western Okay. 2:21:17.200 --> 2:21:19.600 He did, now, I believe, but he told me, he said, Man, 2:21:19.640 --> 2:21:21.160 at one time, all these liquors. 2:21:20.840 --> 2:21:22.400 Stores all up black on all of them. 2:21:23.040 --> 2:21:26.680 After the after the sixty five riots, all the Jewish 2:21:26.720 --> 2:21:28.879 community moved out of the hood. Black folks bought all 2:21:28.920 --> 2:21:32.000 the businesses, and when the crack came in, everybody ran 2:21:32.080 --> 2:21:35.000 out of here, and then the careers took over. I 2:21:35.080 --> 2:21:37.560 ain't mad at him, but I'm just faed. That's how 2:21:37.680 --> 2:21:41.440 that's how the economics change in the hood and uh, 2:21:41.680 --> 2:21:44.240 the swap meets came in the eighties. Also, you ain't 2:21:44.240 --> 2:21:45.560 see you ain't seen the brother of the swap me 2:21:45.680 --> 2:21:48.520 doing nothing but baby helping somebody. From time to time. 2:21:48.720 --> 2:21:50.280 You had one brother in the bottom of the swap 2:21:50.360 --> 2:21:51.680 meat to the bottom of the long beast, and the 2:21:51.879 --> 2:21:54.280 comps to swap meet at the bottom doing T shirts and. 2:21:54.360 --> 2:21:56.520 Uh and air brushing, air brushing. 2:21:56.640 --> 2:22:03.840 Yeah, everybody else was black, and brothers would would sell dope, 2:22:04.360 --> 2:22:06.959 run from the police and kill each other all night 2:22:07.000 --> 2:22:08.959 and all day to go to the saft and spot 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:11.320 beat to buy them jeans, some tennis shoes them, speakers 2:22:11.400 --> 2:22:13.120 and amps, whatever the case may be. 2:22:13.400 --> 2:22:19.160 And then links. Then as Cubans with the Turkish you 2:22:19.280 --> 2:22:24.679 had Turkeys had get you a fake Gucci. 2:22:29.440 --> 2:22:31.920 Nigga with the hood or the belt buckle nigger I 2:22:32.000 --> 2:22:34.160 put I put my hood on there with the little 2:22:34.240 --> 2:22:37.200 belt buckles with the letters nigga, and and with the 2:22:37.320 --> 2:22:39.840 Turkish ear ring nigga, with the rope nigga and the 2:22:39.920 --> 2:22:43.520 bracelet with the fake Gucci wallet Niggas. They're looking hard 2:22:43.720 --> 2:22:49.040 like a motherfuck looking hard like a mother and my 2:22:49.160 --> 2:22:53.800 motherfucking gap cord with my corduroyds Nigga, my T shirt 2:22:54.000 --> 2:22:58.160 with my fake ass Gucci belt af nigga looking hard nigga. Man, 2:22:58.240 --> 2:23:02.240 that's all I wanted. Man with some niggas was as 2:23:02.360 --> 2:23:06.119 crazy as a motherfucking link. Like you said, nigga gonna 2:23:06.120 --> 2:23:10.760 sell it dope all night, getting blasted on, running from 2:23:10.879 --> 2:23:13.400 five all and then goes like he said me to 2:23:13.480 --> 2:23:15.840 take his money right up to the swat and wagon. 2:23:16.280 --> 2:23:17.080 Give me some money. 2:23:17.680 --> 2:23:21.480 Nobody they had. They give me some not your dirty money. 2:23:21.560 --> 2:23:23.320 Just got cleaning things to them. But you can't benefit 2:23:23.400 --> 2:23:25.920 from it. You ain't mad at them. I'm just saying, 2:23:26.040 --> 2:23:28.959 they like give it here, nigg observation. Baby, that's all you. 2:23:30.800 --> 2:23:33.160 After you got about five hundred dollars worth of crack 2:23:33.280 --> 2:23:35.400 money right there, they like give it right here. They 2:23:35.480 --> 2:23:39.640 could take these take these goods. Speaking of the crack, 2:23:40.120 --> 2:23:42.960 did you watch did you with Snowfall in every episode? 2:23:43.760 --> 2:23:45.840 How accurate was that to you? Nah? 2:23:46.440 --> 2:23:49.280 You know it had his point, they had his times, 2:23:49.720 --> 2:23:52.480 but it was accurate. Like Homegirl being being turned out 2:23:52.560 --> 2:23:54.920 and cleaning up. I've seen that happened many a time 2:23:55.520 --> 2:23:58.720 she was out there blowing knocking off everything. Sad she 2:23:59.360 --> 2:24:02.920 get cleaned up. I remember a lot of the cats 2:24:03.080 --> 2:24:06.000 from the neighborhood would blow up and they started testing 2:24:06.520 --> 2:24:08.840 smoking their own ship and fall right the back down. 2:24:10.720 --> 2:24:13.320 I remember the fucking that that ship was based on 2:24:14.360 --> 2:24:18.760 Nickoson gardens and that always been on fire. Okay, that 2:24:19.360 --> 2:24:23.160 always been on fire one or two Rick Ross, I 2:24:23.240 --> 2:24:28.440 mean an actual Freeway Rick character. I know Freeway, and 2:24:29.000 --> 2:24:31.080 he was the most laid back guy, like Franklin to 2:24:31.160 --> 2:24:35.040 a certain degree. I didn't know him at that time 2:24:35.280 --> 2:24:37.360 when he was the balling out of control. I heard 2:24:37.400 --> 2:24:40.480 his name, but I think a few things they left out, 2:24:41.080 --> 2:24:43.320 like when he reason why they called him Freeway was 2:24:43.360 --> 2:24:45.280 because he had a big as apartment by the Freeway 2:24:46.120 --> 2:24:48.320 and right by the fucking one ten. He turned the 2:24:48.360 --> 2:24:53.040 whole apartment building into his goddamn spot. And he was 2:24:53.080 --> 2:24:56.000 a tennis player. He wasn't even a even even in 2:24:56.280 --> 2:24:58.920 his documentary, the fans say they saw the guy almost 2:24:59.000 --> 2:25:01.880 every day walking, asked with tennis rackets, didn't pay him 2:25:01.879 --> 2:25:08.360 no attention. He didn't look like a dope. Okay, the uh, 2:25:09.360 --> 2:25:12.200 the fans being involved in that ship, that ship is documented. 2:25:13.160 --> 2:25:16.039 The guy who told on the FEDS how he died 2:25:16.400 --> 2:25:19.680 shot himself committed suicide by shooting himself in the head 2:25:19.720 --> 2:25:21.160 two times. Documented. 2:25:21.280 --> 2:25:25.560 Okay the news reporter. Yeah, they said this motherfucker committed 2:25:25.600 --> 2:25:27.360 suicide and shot himself on the head twice. 2:25:27.400 --> 2:25:33.360 Twice. You shoot yourself on the head. 2:25:35.440 --> 2:25:39.640 That nigga did. What it is I missed did the work. 2:25:42.120 --> 2:25:44.400 Isn't Even if you happen to survive that first shot, 2:25:44.480 --> 2:25:47.280 you're gonna be in such motherfucking this hong, You're gonna 2:25:47.280 --> 2:25:48.560 be up in that motherfucker like this. 2:25:49.000 --> 2:25:51.240 Big saying that nigga woke up. It was like, oh 2:25:51.320 --> 2:25:51.720 it did. 2:25:53.400 --> 2:25:56.640 Do it again. So I mean some ships, you know, 2:25:56.879 --> 2:25:58.879 when you when you know the real story, you remember 2:25:59.240 --> 2:26:01.920 living that ship the first time, you can see some 2:26:02.000 --> 2:26:06.000 of the similarities. But of course, in any any movie project, 2:26:06.160 --> 2:26:08.080 like just like Straight out of Competent, they always in 2:26:08.400 --> 2:26:10.400 they have they called it embellishment or they called it 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:14.400 creative license. Right long as they don't long they don't 2:26:15.080 --> 2:26:17.640 change the story too much. If they I can, straight 2:26:17.640 --> 2:26:19.480 out of Competent, they made me gay or something like that. 2:26:20.040 --> 2:26:21.920 That wasn't gonna fly, But they can make me out 2:26:21.920 --> 2:26:23.520 to be an asshole because I can't be aphole. 2:26:24.000 --> 2:26:25.600 You would have made some money for sures. You could 2:26:25.600 --> 2:26:27.880 have sued the ship up there, because see one thing 2:26:27.959 --> 2:26:29.760 that people don't know about that that's why I tell 2:26:29.800 --> 2:26:31.880 people what these podcasts. Y'all would be careful if you 2:26:31.920 --> 2:26:33.880 can sue the ship out of the motherfucker. If a 2:26:33.959 --> 2:26:34.880 motherfucker going there? 2:26:35.000 --> 2:26:36.039 Line about you? Dog? 2:26:36.640 --> 2:26:38.800 Is this a couple of niggas montorny, don't hit me like, man, 2:26:39.120 --> 2:26:40.800 you want to go out? I'm like, I ain't tripping 2:26:40.920 --> 2:26:43.400 like that, but let's get it. I'm shit, I need 2:26:43.520 --> 2:26:49.400 some money. Yeah, money, let's get it. Ho many these 2:26:49.440 --> 2:26:51.440 motherfuckers ain't worth soon because you ain't gonna get. 2:26:51.360 --> 2:26:53.400 You gonna They're gonna get an exercise for your journey 2:26:53.440 --> 2:26:54.160 and put a lean. 2:26:54.080 --> 2:26:54.560 On the ship. 2:26:54.640 --> 2:26:55.120 You know what I mean. 2:26:55.720 --> 2:26:57.960 It's just too much man, You know lones and we 2:26:58.000 --> 2:26:59.440 don't been up here for a minute. Man, where can 2:26:59.480 --> 2:26:59.840 the people go? 2:27:00.640 --> 2:27:02.560 They can find me tonight in a few minutes, probably 2:27:02.560 --> 2:27:05.080 if we don't get back in time on n W 2:27:05.600 --> 2:27:08.200 with Lonzo. Now, I got a new thing I'm doing now. 2:27:08.320 --> 2:27:11.280 If you want to be on my personal contact list, 2:27:11.800 --> 2:27:14.879 text me at four two four three six, three eight 2:27:14.959 --> 2:27:17.520 one four one in the message put Lonzo and you 2:27:17.600 --> 2:27:20.600 got me locked in? You're on that you're on that 2:27:20.720 --> 2:27:25.480 new text one text Lonzo and you got me locked in? Baby? 2:27:25.640 --> 2:27:28.760 That's cracking, Yes, sir, my website Lonzo William dot com. 2:27:30.360 --> 2:27:32.400 Ship my man, Dusty over the corner with me rolling 2:27:32.440 --> 2:27:37.320 with me right now. That's the Dusty Vision heal YouTube too, 2:27:37.400 --> 2:27:38.000 dust Division. 2:27:38.120 --> 2:27:38.280 Yes. 2:27:38.920 --> 2:27:42.119 And also my other podcast, My Boy Doctor Dre from 2:27:42.120 --> 2:27:44.720 your on TV raps. That's Dairy Connects every Friday. 2:27:44.920 --> 2:27:47.640 Okay, that's cracked. You know what I don't. 2:27:47.720 --> 2:27:50.360 I don't that's pretty dope. I don't saw that ship before. 2:27:50.560 --> 2:27:51.080 That's cracking. 2:27:51.320 --> 2:27:51.480 Yeah. 2:27:51.560 --> 2:27:51.720 Yeah. 2:27:53.120 --> 2:27:55.800 We got the East Coast connection, East coast, West coast, 2:27:55.879 --> 2:27:58.840 Old school connection. So we talk about all kind of 2:27:58.840 --> 2:28:02.040 shit from different perspectives based on today and also the 2:28:02.280 --> 2:28:05.320 West coast, East coast perspective, and we both got different 2:28:05.320 --> 2:28:07.000 ways of looking at ship. You know, when you're looking 2:28:07.000 --> 2:28:10.480 at were looking at in February sunshine and ship that 2:28:10.600 --> 2:28:13.440 nigga he in six for you to snow. So all right, 2:28:13.560 --> 2:28:16.599 ship he see. Well we say it's two different worlds. 2:28:16.600 --> 2:28:19.240 Yeah, for real, for real, man. Well, we appreciate you 2:28:19.320 --> 2:28:22.040 coming on the show. Definitely, definitely definitely go ahead, you 2:28:22.160 --> 2:28:22.640 back again. 2:28:22.800 --> 2:28:22.959 Man. 2:28:23.360 --> 2:28:24.600 That got to be able to come out and hang 2:28:24.640 --> 2:28:26.840 out with y'all for today, man, Yeah, for sure, man, 2:28:26.879 --> 2:28:29.760 And thanks y'all the fans for tuning in. Man to 2:28:29.920 --> 2:28:32.199 another episode against the Chronicles podcast. 2:28:32.280 --> 2:28:33.920 Man. Make sure y'all leave a comment. 2:28:34.040 --> 2:28:36.840 Man. You know, if you're on an Apple podcast, man, 2:28:36.920 --> 2:28:38.920 leave a comment and raping man going and hit us 2:28:38.959 --> 2:28:41.039 up with that five stars man or whatever you want 2:28:41.080 --> 2:28:42.800 to three stars, two stars, whatever. 2:28:42.640 --> 2:28:44.920 On your mind. I can give us one star ship. 2:28:45.400 --> 2:28:48.959 That's what you choose. Just do it and we're gone. Peace. 2:28:49.400 --> 2:28:58.160 Yeer my notes, bro, like Pinokyo, we gonna tell you 2:28:58.240 --> 2:29:01.160 the choose and nothing but taxed a chronic 2:29:01.320 --> 2:29:04.119 Pay of this is not your every children,